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October 19, 2022 meeting of the CNCF IoT Edge Working Group. Discussed whether edge native white paper is ready for move from draft to release and discuss presentation at KubeCon.
A
Okay,
welcome
to
the
October
19th
meeting
of
the
cncf
iot
edge
working
group.
I
saw
two
items
on
the
agenda.
Well,
actually,
I
see
a
third
coming
in
now
we're
going
to
be
discussing
the
white
paper
and
at
kubecon
North
America
next
week.
Some
of
the
people
in
the
the
call
are
giving
a
presentation
on
this,
so
I
believe
they're
going
to
do
a
kind
of
a
teaser
slash
rehearsal
of
that
presentation.
B
B
B
So
and
I
jumped
ahead
of
Joel
on
this
by
accident.
I'm.
Sorry
about
that
drool
I
just
moved
everything
to
hack
MD,
to
kind
of
give
us
the
format
that
we
would
see
on
GitHub
and
then
I
think
Joel
got
a
chance
to
look
through
it
potentially
and
with
the
idea
being
that,
hopefully,
maybe
after
this
meeting,
Joel
could
put
a
PR
into
runtime
the
path.
Oh
I'm,
not
sharing
my
screen
once
again.
B
B
D
C
C
C
E
B
B
Yeah
because
I
think
it's
a
bit
redundant
but
at
the
same
time
I
get
we're
defining
what
is
Edge.
So,
if
you're
reading
this
paper
section
by
section,
this
is
quite
helpful
so
like,
if
you
think
about
every
section
being
able
to
stand
alone,
then
I
would
keep
this
here.
If
we're
focusing
more
on
the
flow
of
the
whole
paper,
I
would
remove
it.
E
C
C
B
Sounds
good,
so
essentially,
what
I
wanted
to
propose
is:
maybe
we
all
take
two
minutes
or
or
we
one
idea
is
we
all
take
two
minutes
and
read
through
this
real,
quick
and
two
minutes
obviously
is
not
enough,
but,
like
we've
seen
it
so
we
get
an
idea
or
we
just
kind
of
roll
through
this,
and
the
question
is:
is
this
ready
to
be
a
PR?
We
can
still
iterate
a
little
bit
in
PR
format,
but
do
we
feel
comfortable
with
this
I've
made
all
the
grids
the
same?
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C
B
C
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A
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B
E
D
B
A
B
Yeah,
that's
what
so
I
was
hoping.
We
would
do
that
from
the
start.
So
after
you
created
a
spreadsheet,
I
added
a
column
that
says
Edge
native
principles,
and
so
when
you
add
your
project,
you
can
list
all
the
principles,
comma
delineated
that
relate,
and
then
people
could
go
into
the
document
and
filter
by
principle
say
they
need
something
that
helps
them
with
external
device,
connectivity
or
infrastructure
and
platform
Management
on
the
edge
they
could
just
filter
it.
That
way,
which
seems
helpful.
B
B
B
F
B
Okay
and
then
we,
if
we
go
back
over
I
kind
of
like
the
visual
effect
MD,
but
then
this
is
kind
of
our
open
source
projects
list.
So
I
point
to
the
spreadsheet
that
Steve
set
up
and
then
also
add
the
QR
code,
and
this
is
while,
like,
if
you're
reading
a
white
paper,
you're,
probably
just
going
to
use
the
link,
it's
kind
of
nice
to
have
the
QR
code
in
case.
B
A
D
B
A
I'd
say
the
way
we
treated
we've
now
had
months
worth
of
work
on
this.
So
if
somebody's
on
that
author's
list
who
hasn't
been
showing
up,
they
probably
should
be
removed
and
then
for
the
people,
including
everybody
on
this
call,
who
are
more
or
less
regulars,
I
think
let
them
choose
whether
they'd
rather
be
deemed
an
author
or
a
reviewer.
It's
kind
of
up
to
you.
A
B
And
then,
if
anyone
on
this
call
sees
this
and
and
thinks
I'm
missing
anyone,
that
would
be
super
helpful
to
add
them
to
reviewers
or
authors,
because
I,
of
course,
do
not
want
to
do
that,
and
so
this
section
I
might
I'm
just
gonna
copy
this
over
to
because
it's
and
in
the
paper
itself
we
added
linkedins.
Do
we
want
to
do
that
or
GitHub
handles
or
something
along
those
lines.
D
A
F
F
B
B
C
A
This
looks
good
I
think
you
know
just
as
a
a
note
going
forward.
I
think
the
list
is
good
now,
but
anything
that
is
kind
of
vendor
neutral
by
you
know
an
analyst
group
or
something
like
that
or
an
open
source
Foundation
is
good
I.
Don't
think
we
want
to
start
accepting
reference
links
that
are
kind
of
like
links
to
vendor
stuff,
because
there'd
be
no
end
to
that,
and
you
know
once
we
let
one
in
we'd
we'd
end
up
having
to
add
100
to
this
list
and
personally
I.
B
B
C
B
F
That'll
link
people
to
more
information,
but
I
wasn't
sure
if
we
wanted
to
do
something
like
asking
people
specific
questions
about
their
interest
in
iot
Edge
or
what
they
were
kind
of
hoping
to
see,
or
things
like
that
and
so
I
was
kind
of
I
just
wanted
to
bring
it
up
for
the
group
to
kind
of
think
about
and
kind
of
make
a
decision
and
I
can
start
the
Google
form.
That's
not
a
problem,
but
I
wanted
to
to
make
sure
that
we
were
all
kind
of
in
agreement
and
intent.
D
Also
looks
like
I
mean
it's
a
it's
a
great
initiative,
but
always
these
things
takes
time
too
to
do
if
you
want
to
do
a
survey
or
or
or
or
things
like
that,
so
I'm
not
sure
if
you
have
resources
to
do
it
at
this
point,
so
maybe
it's
better
for
now
to
just
link
to
the.
If
someone
has
ideas
and
and
will
to
to
to
to
come
with
a
proposition-
that's
that's
great,
but.
B
B
A
Well,
it
sounds
like
we're
going
in
two
different
directions
here,
like
people
who
there's
a
group
of
people
who
represent
projects,
you
know
who
could
be
presenters
themselves,
but
there's
also
the
group
of
people
who
are
users
or
prospective
users
of
applications
at
Edge
and
I
think
asking
them
what
they're
interested
in
or
maybe
even
a
quick
way
to
get
something
that
shouldn't
be
controversial.
Is
we
already
have
those
nine
categories?
We
could
ask
people
to
just
check
boxes
on.
A
You
know
to
kind
of
prioritize
what
seems
to
be
drawing
interest
in
audience
from
users
and
then
I
kind
of
like
the
idea
of
making
future
agendas
be
user,
driven
rather
than
project
or
vendor
driven
because
you
know
otherwise,
if
no
users
are
interested
in
something
and
we
bring
in
a
vendor
talking
about
something
nobody
cares
about.
We
didn't
accomplish
that
much.
F
So
I
had
a
couple
of
ideas
for
it.
One
idea
was
definitely
focused
on
getting
feedback.
One
I
was
kind
of
like
do
you
guys
want
feedback
on
your
presentation
right
and
so
that'd
be
a
good
way
to
get
it
then.
The
other
thing
I
wanted
to
try
to
Loop
it
back.
To
is
to
this
group
right,
but
I
just
wasn't
sure
like.
Should
we
try
to
do
it
more
on
Project
focus?
Should
we
try
to
do
it
more
on
topic
driven
stuff
or
or
should
we
try
to
do
it?
What
with
what?
F
What
Kate
was
talking
about
right
about?
Do
you
is
there
a
project
that
you
guys
want
to
contribute
or
or
talk
about
during
our
meetings,
and
so
that's
why
I
wanted
to
talk
about
this
really
quick,
because
the
survey
shouldn't
take
very
long.
I
was
thinking.
It
would
be
a
very
simple
survey
because,
honestly,
who
wants
to
fill
out
like
a
20-page
survey
or.
A
F
F
A
E
B
D
B
B
A
I
think
that
there
is
a
way
to
have
it
all
see.
Our
group
has
an
email
Alias
that
is
just
what
iot
Edge
at
Google
Groups,
or
something
like
that.
I
think
you
can
actually
assign
Google
doc
anything
on
a
G
drive
to
be
owned
by
the
group.
However,
if
Natalie
was
to
do
it
since
she's,
not
an
admin
of
the
group,
the
moment
that
that
happened,
she'd
probably
be
giving
it
up
so
I,
don't
really
know.
F
F
I
think
you
can
have
multiple
editors
but
yeah,
multiple
editors.
They
may
not
be
owners,
but
they
can
edit
yeah
and
I'm
perfectly
happy
making
sure
that
everybody
has
that
ability,
because,
like
I
said
I,
don't
want
to
be
a
bottleneck.
If
some
decision
was
made
and
I
wasn't
around
and
you
guys
are
like
we
should
add
another
thing.
B
B
B
D
A
Hey
by
the
way,
I
just
looked
up
ownership,
for
example,
for
prior
precedent,
and
we've
been
able
to
work
with
this.
But
technically,
just
out
of
curiosity,
I
looked
up
the
owner
of
our
running
agenda,
notes
document
and
it's
Cindy
Zhang,
who
hasn't
even
been
active
in
the
group,
but
I
think
the
only
downside
to
there
being
an
owner
like
that
is.
If
she
ever
closed,
her
Google
account
I
think
the
document
would
disappear,
but
so
technically
it
would
be
probably
better
to
have
them
owned
by
the
group.