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From YouTube: Kubernetes kops office hours 20200313
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Recording of the kops office hours meeting held on 20200313
A
Hello,
everybody
and
welcome
to
cop's
office
hours
today
is
Friday
March
13th
2020
I.
Am
your
moderator
facilitator
just
in
Santa
Barbara
I
work
at
Google
a
reminder.
This
meeting
is
being
recorded.
What
we
put
on
the
Internet
and
please
be
mindful
of
our
code
of
conduct
and
I
pasted
a
link
previously
in
the
notice
to
the
agenda.
I
will
be
pasted
it
in
place.
Please
do
feel
free
to
add
things
to
the
agenda
if
you
would
like
to
discuss
them,
also
feel
free
to
add
your
name.
There.
A
A
A
B
Is
on
is
tested,
III
3.15
and
it
looks
like
a
team
manager
only
has
support
for
three
three
one:
thirteen
instead
of
fifteen,
and
so
this
PR
add
support
for
three
315
I.
Don't
know
what
functional
difference
there
is,
but
I
figured
it's
to
have
the
exact
version
mentioned
in
the
Cooper
Nettie's
116
release
notes
so.
A
Thank
you
yes,
and
we
will,
by
the
way,
your
your
audios
a
little
choppy
I,
don't
know
if
that
was
the
case
for
everyone
else,
so
you
may
want
to
turn
off
your
video
for
other
things,
but
it's
it
was
okay,
we
I
think
we
understood
I.
Think
the
yes
I
think
referring
need
to
do
that.
Thank
you
for
sending
that
it
does.
A
I
suspect
we
are
two
choices
are
either
to
download
Etsy
d
dynamically,
which
isn't
great
or
to
have
Etsy
D
manager
spawn
a
pod
or
or
container
that
has
the
actual
at
CD
in
it.
That's
just
a
little
bit
more
complicated,
but
in
the
meantime
we
can
merge
that
icon
I
see
you
are
here
now.
Thank
you.
We
skipped
over
your
topics
because
we
were
waiting
for
you.
Do
you
want
to
kick
yourself
with
a
your
first
one
about
experimental,
I'm.
C
A
C
For
example,
right
now
in
integration,
it's
pretty
hard
to
to
test
launch
templates
you
have
to
have,
you
would
have
to
add
another
thing
that
would
enable
the
environment
variable
to
add
an
integration
test
for
something
also
for
people
that
just
want
to
use
some
of
the
experiment
with
the
feature
it's
pretty
much
annoying
to
just
have
an
environment
variable,
and
if
you
forgot
to
put
it
before
the
update,
then
you
reverted
everything
or
something
broke
your
cluster.
So
that's
why
I
mean
yeah.
A
I
think
I
think
it's
for
anything
theories.
There
are
some.
There
are
some
flags,
but
I
think
it's
okay,
for
example,
or
some
feature
factor
I.
Think
it's
okay,
for
example,
like
we
feature
gate,
something
some
cloud
support
and
we
require
an
environment
variable,
but
you
only
have
to
pass
it
on
create
and
I
feel
like
that's
more
acceptable
than
the
situation
you
described
where.
A
If
at
any
time
you
forget
to
pass
it
to
update
you're
sort
of
in
trouble-
and
that's
where,
like
I,
do
agree,
that
would
be
a
good
one
to
put
into
the
cluster
spec
in
some
way
so
that
you
couldn't
easily
forget.
But
at
the
same
time
maybe
we
could
also
make
it
look
more
like
the
first
pattern
where
you
have
to
pass.
We
just
enable
the
feature
as
a
field
in
the
spec,
and
if
we
want
to
feature
gate
it,
you
have
to
pass
the
flag
only
when
you
turn
it
on,
but.
A
Yes,
I
guess
on
your
two
points
is
one
related
I
think
Oh
the
next.
The
next
well
I
mean
I,
said.
Oh
just
on
the
two
points
you
made
there
I
was
wondering
like
is
it?
Is
it
hard
to
pass
an
environment
variable
in
the
intuition
tests
right?
Is
that
is
there
something
we
could
do
to
make
that
easier?
Well,.
D
E
C
Theory,
we
could
add
it
I
think
with
Peters
refactoring
would
be
easier
because
it's
not
just
that
very
long
function
call
with
all
the
parameters
right
now,
if
you
want
to
add
something
another
parameter
to
integration,
it's
adding
another
parameter
to
one
function
and
then
adding
it
to
all
the
calls
right.
I.
A
Guess
so
yeah
I
was
just
talking
with
the
environment.
Variable
was
just
sort
of
passed
down
me
environment
to
Syd
were
like
we
can.
I,
the
more
I
think
the
more
the
the
more
interesting
one
is
like
for
your
second
point
about
ease
users
right
like
and
I
wonder
whether
for
the
case
of
launch
someplace,
which
is
I,
guess
what
this
is
about,
whether
we
should
try
to
pursue
an
option
where
you
don't
have
to
remember
to
pass
it
every
time.
C
Well,
it's
more
in
line
with
what
kubernetes
does
like.
Let's
say
for
some
things,
maybe,
as
you
said,
environment
variables
are
better,
but
in
general,
if
you
want
to
enable
a
feature
and
really
test
it
so
that
you
can
give
feedback,
it's
not
very
convenient
to
use
environment
variables.
All
the
time,
I
think.
A
That's
fair,
I
think
the
intensity
mardenborough
was
just
to
give
people
a
little
a
little
check
before
they
did
something
that
was
perhaps
less
supported,
but
it
isn't
that
they,
you
should
have
to
pass
it
all
the
time.
So
if
we
can
get
it,
if
we
can
get
if
we're
in
it,
we
have
a
feature
that
we
would
otherwise
be
reluctant
to
introduce
if
we
can
get
it
so
that
it
only
happens.
So
the
only
have
to
pass
the
environment
Garbo
in
the
create
I
feel
like
that
would
might
be
okay,
so.
E
A
We
have
to
be,
we
have
to
be
double
plus
careful
about
the
schema
changes,
so
you
might
want
to
yeah
experiment
with
it
before
you
make
it
yeah.
We
may
we
have
like
different
phases
right
like
phase
one
is
the
uncomfortable
environment,
variables
everywhere,
phase
and
then
phase
two
is
environment
variable
on
create,
but
then
we
have
a
field
yeah.
E
C
Don't
have
a
problem
either
way,
but
I
would
prefer
it
to
be
either
like
a
feature
flag
in
like
for
cubelet
in
our
spec
or
an
instance
group
option,
or
something
because
this
feels
to
me
like
it
will
take,
probably
until
118
or
119,
to
get
it
more
stable.
I.
C
Don't
have
anything
against
making
it
a
default.
What
we
we
have
to
actually
check
a
lot
of
things
and,
as
you
saw
in
the
P
ours
its,
it
was
made
to
work
with
mixed
instances
and
not
really
as
a
separate
thing
to
replace
launch
configuration.
It
works,
but
it's
it
wasn't
tested.
That
part
was
just
there.
Probably
almost
no
one
is
using
it
for
sure.
A
Hey
it
sounds
like
we
have
a
path,
I
think
we're
generally
agreed
that
we
should
not.
We
should
if
we
introduce
something
with
an
environment
variable,
you
can
specify
everywhere
that
we
should
try
to
get
it
either
to
the
default
or
to
an
environment
or
with
a
flag
that
you
only
have
to
sell
environmental.
You
only
have
to
remember
I,
create
and
that
there's
some
sort
of
journey
that
will
probably
vary
based
on
the
future
and
how
we
feel
about
it.
A
C
A
A
A
You
know
like
a
sequence
of
releases,
but
I
feel
like
that's
the
that's
the
evolution
of
that's
the
full
evolution
of
a
feature,
and
we
can
choose
to
skip
some
of
those
things
and
we
do
choose
to
skip
some
of
those
things,
but
that
would
be
how
I
would
that
would
be.
My
mental
model
sounds
quite
good
to
me.
I
feel
like
we
should
probably
feel
for
this
one,
but
I.
A
E
A
The
advantage
of
a
field
is
that
people
that
want
to
not
make
the
change
from
what,
if
you
launch
a
template,
yet
don't
like
have
to
face
the
choice
of
what
to
do
right
and
we've
in
the
past
have
done
things
like
make
it
the
default
for
new
clusters,
the
new
value
than
default
for
new
clusters,
and
we
have
also
I
think
done
things
where
you've
said
posted
increasingly
severe
warnings
to
people
who
are
still
using
the
old
thing.
We
did
that
with
like
anonymous
access.
E
E
A
Thank
you,
I
think.
That's
a
good
outcome,
I
think
I.
Think
one
is
that
both
of
your
points
or
is
that
most
of
the
is
there
anything
left
in
the
second
one?
I
guess
no
yeah!
That's
that's
all!
Thank
you!
Thanks
and
I
forgot
about
the
time
change.
Yes,
that
was
Sunday
mornings
pain.
So
it's
already
long
long
forgotten.
A
Okay
and
Peter,
we
covered
your
item
out
of
order
about
SUV
manager
and
the
SUV
version.
We
decided
to
add
it
to
the
city
manager
and
we
are
open
to
any
suggestions
on
how
to
avoid
adding
every
single
version
of
SCDF
or
making
for
acuity,
but
we're
not
gonna
block
on
that.
So
next
is
John.
You
have
an
item
about
removing
support
for
Calico,
yes,
I
saw
this
and
I
was
like
I.
Don't
want
to
touch
that
without
talking
to
other
people,
so
yeah.
E
I
wanted
to
bring
up
the
meeting
for
sort
of
a
last
call,
but
yeah
there's
been
no
movement
from
maintainer
x'.
It
seems
to
be,
you
know,
substantially
unmaintained
to
these
days,
and
so
the
proposal
is
when
kubernetes
is
117
and
higher.
Then
you
can't
use
the
DX
lot
if
they
don't
final
back-end
and
he
also
can't
use
canal.
E
A
E
H
A
A
E
H
I
will
say
that
for
a
while
there
was
zero
movement
on
there.
The
repo
there
was
a
couple
merges
commits
this
yesterday.
Actually
so
to
Justin's
point:
hey
I
mean
I,
don't
know
if
anyone's
putting
money
towards
it.
Let's
be
real,
like
I,
don't
know
if
there's
actually
any
one
who's
being
paid
to
to
commit
to
it
so
I
agree,
I
mean
I.
I
think
we
need
to
protect
the
user,
but
I
also
think
that
ripping
now
completely
might
not
be
the
best
approach,
but
having
run
into
it
like
flat-out,
didn't
work
for
me,
we.
I
C
E
F
A
A
A
C
C
I,
don't
have
anything
against
you.
No
official
release
is
doing
that.
What,
with
unofficial
releases
like
what
we
build
on
our
machines
or
something
like
alpha
beta
whatever
you
may
end
up
testing
some
feature
in
kubernetes,
we
won't
be
always
so
fast
like
we
are
now
with
118,
so
probe
the
thing
that
we
just
want.
Let's
say
to
make
it
easy
for
alpha
or
something
could
be
a
lot
longer,
so
would
be
annoying
to
pass
environment
variables
to
test
various
things.
A
Sounds
very
ok
and
now
we're
quibbling,
the
exact
details
that
have
the
environment
variable
or
not
or
I
like
I,
do
like
the
idea.
I
mean
we
have
a.
We
take
it
as
a
see
I
built
I.
Do
like
the
idea
of
using
that
to
make
it
a
little
bit
more
relaxed,
maybe
or
I.
Don't
particularly
want
users
in
a
released
version
running
the
like.
We
shouldn't
exempt
the
Alpha
if
it's
a
release
version
that
really
is
incentivizing
the
wrong
behavior.
A
A
A
A
Mean
yeah,
it
could
be
a
future.
Yes,
that's
a
whole
different,
that's
a
whole
different
like
I.
Don't
want
even
one
open,
I!
Think
I,
don't
have
a
strong
feeling.
I,
don't
know
other
just
have
a
strong
feeling
about
I,
like
the
idea
of
not
putting
in
the
here
that
John
sent
one
six
six
seven
eight
to
test
in
flat,
which
makes
it
explicit
that
we
are
passing.
A
This
NVR
doesn't
seem
too
bad
to
me
in
terms
of
the
burden,
and
it
is
good
to
me
in
terms
of
making
it
very
explicit
what
we're
doing,
rather
than
like
my
suggestion
of
putting
an
incubus
where
you'd
be
like.
Why
is
this
not
working?
And
then
you
know
we'd
be
like?
Oh,
because
there's
this
one
line
in
this
function,
that's
five
deep
in
the
coal
stack
that
you
forgot
to
like
think
about
I.
A
C
C
A
C
E
E
A
I
know
that
very
well:
this
takes
were
made.
Yes,
okay,
I
tells
like
that's
a
good
compromise,
so
thank
you,
everyone
for
talking
up
during
compromising
I,
think
and
John.
You
have
another
item
on
how
we
do
on
time.
Overdoing,
okay,
John!
You
have
another
item
around
to
PRS.
That
I
think
you
would
like
to
blah
blah
yeah
yeah.
A
C
A
A
C
C
C
C
Don't
have
access
to
Google
Cloud,
don't
get
a
chance
to
to
play
with
it.
So
for
sure
we
could
remove
it
completely
for
all
other
races,
and
let's
say
we
reduce
the
problem-
probably
won't
affect
costs
in
this
release,
but
I
plan
to
open
an
issue
with
kubernetes
to
see
exactly
what
they
were
thinking
and
how
they
see
it.
How
they
see
the
auto
detection
work
because
pretty
much
all
the
projects
are
starting
to
pick
up
their
algorithm
I'm,
not
sure
if
it
will
work.
C
A
A
C
C
A
C
C
A
C
A
A
A
B
So
Hackman
mentioned
it
earlier,
but
basically
our
integration-
that's
currently
have
very
long
function,
signatures
with
many
parameters
and
anytime.
We
need
to
add
a
new
one.
You
add
it
to
twenty
different
places
and
then
merge
conflicts
with
other
open,
PRS
and
so
I
took
a
stay,
be
factoring
them
so
that
there
we
can
more
easily
define
default
values
for
certain
variables
about
tests.
A
B
A
A
Did
you
ever
get
what
it
could
be
working
on
your
ID?
Did
you
turn
it
off
and
anger
when
it
was
too
slow,
but
yes,
I
think
whatever,
whatever
you
prefer,
that
that
both
look
like
a
great
improvement,
so
will
you
is
the
person
closest
which
I
think
should
make
recall?
Okay,
cool?
Thank
you
awesome.
Thank
you!
Timo
and
Sri,
like
I'm,
saying
those
right
at
digitalocean.
This
is
great.
This
sounds
exciting,
but.
I
F
A
That's
like
I
can
I
can
share
like
GCE.
Is
it's
in
beta,
but
I
think
one
of
the
things
that
the
things
I
think
we
we
want
our
API
stability,
so
you're
not
gonna,
fundamentally
change
the
API
and
some
idea
that,
if
I
create
a
cluster
today
that
maybe
when
we
go
GA
I
want
to
like
tear
it
down
and
rebuild
it.
So
in
other
words,
that
you
basically
have
this
the
right
architecture
or
like
configuration
that
doesn't
require
like
a
full
rebuilt.
A
F
I
Yeah
yeah,
so
we
we've
got
a
state
where
we
added
the
added
HDD
manager
support
to
Devo,
and
we
also
did
the
cops
controller
support.
Then,
whatever
is
needed
for
the
multi
master
rich
shade
the
Goss
exceed
support,
so
everything
is
in
place
now
and
we
try
to
bring
up
the
cluster
using
the
normal
documentation
that
that's
put
in
and
see
that
comes
up,
okay
and
you're
able
to
destroy
the
cluster
as
related
API.
A
It
sounds
it
sounds
great
and
thank
you
for
your
work.
I'd
say
it
wasn't
clear
whether
you
were
saying
that
AJ
actually
worked
or
not,
but
you
know
like
that
would
be
the
sort
of
thing
which
we
want
to
see
it.
You
should
have
confidence
that
it
that
it
works
so
that
we
aren't
saying.
Oh
if
you
want
to
have
an
assay
cluster,
yes
like
rip
it
down
and
like
recreate
it,
because
we
forgot
this
thing,
for
example,
but
if
we
did
that,
then
I'd
be
very
much
in
favor.
I.
A
I
I
The
issue
is:
if
one
of
the
massive
goes
down,
it
looks
like
the
worker
node
gets
into
an
not
ready
status,
so
it
basically
looks
like
we
saw
that
there
is
a
spike
which
is
used.
Internal
use,
the
use,
a
load
balancer,
that's
created
even
for
the
two
blades
to
communicate
to
the
API
server.
So
that
is
something
which,
which
I
see
is
only
done
in
a
doubly
aside
of
it
using
an
internal
API
for
load
balancer
attribute.
So
we
just
wanted
to
check
a
little
more
about
that.
I
A
J
Yes,
so
basically
they
they
removed
a
bunch
of
code
with
all
the
list
of
instance,
and
DNI
is
now
they
they
retrieve
them
dynamically,
so
will
will
see
for
these
fix,
they
shown
our
side
and
then,
if
it
works,
so
we'll
we'll
make
a
PR
took
up,
so
they
update
it,
but
they
need
to
do
to
make
a
release
first,
because
at
the
moment
everything
is
still
master.
That's
wonderful!
Thank.
J
You
know
anyone
in
lifting
them,
yeah
I
know:
I
I
tried.
Let's
see
if
you
know
something
doesn't
move
or
maybe
we
can
try
to
gently,
ask
them
if
they
can
make
a
release.
Now
those
wanted
to
make
people
aware
if
you're,
seeing
something
weird
is
because
of
that
we
took
us
like
some
time
to
figure
out.
I
was
feeling.
A
Awesome
Thank
You
Matteo,
it's
good
to
know,
I'm
good,
to
share
alright,
we
have
a
five
minutes
remaining
I
carried
forward.
The
releases
I
fail
to
do
for
the
upcoming
two
weeks,
which
I
shot
too
bad
I
was
supposed
to
create
the
Buster
am
eyes
I'm
going
to
continue
to
try
to
do
that,
and
we
previously
had
a
180
now
fly.
If
anything
came
up,
I,
don't
know.
If
anything
I
didn't
see,
they
came
up
in
the
past
few
weeks.
It
warranted
a
118
alpha.
A
A
A
So
we
will
try,
a
bit
rate
will
be
will
be
close,
but
yes,
I,
don't
know
anyone
else
has
anything.
They
want
to
add
session
on
eight
six,
one
four,
which
is
around
canal
of
the
X
LAN
and
a
five
eight
two,
which
is
around
the
default
storage
class.
Yes
other
than
that
I,
don't
know.
If
anyone
else
has
any
other
topics
any
other
releases,
we
should
do
anything
they
want
to
discuss.