Kubernetes Network Gateway API Special Interest Group, 11 Jul 2023

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Gateway API GAMMA Meeting for 20230711

A

I have the meeting notes open if you wanna, oh.

B

Look on the coverage yeah I made you the co-host I.

A

Shall try to use my powers only for good all.

C

A

On that note, welcome to the July 11th instantiation of the gamma meeting. This is an official cncf thanks. So please be nice to everybody, including yourself. uh It would be nice for people to add themselves as attendees, which I shall now do so I'm, not a massive hypocrite and um yeah. Evidently, the floor is yours: Rob, because you're, the only one who has stuff to talk about yeah, cool.

D

Okay, well, this will be a really short meeting. Man uh well probably I've said that before I've been wrong, uh so first up uh 080 we're trying to get everything in this week and then start API review next week. So if you have any tiny little fixes you want to include or or big whatever, it is, uh try to make sure it's merged this week.

D

If there's a PR or something that just isn't getting reviewed and you are trying to get it in, please ping, any reviewers ping me personally, whoever just uh you know not trying to ignore things. Just at least my GitHub notification queue is insane, so I tend to lose track of things, but yeah. That's all uh on the release front.

D

um The other thing very related to release front is the timeout. Gap is I, think this is relevant to mesh, so I'll just bring it up. It is on the verge of missing 080..

D

Unfortunately, and uh the reason why is because we cannot seem to find- or we have some ideas about- timeout timeout formatting, but there's a lot of uncertainty about what the right way to do. It is, and whatever we do will probably be repeated throughout kubernetes and so trying to not to not get it wrong.

D

um There's a proposal in that PR, uh but there are plenty of alternative options too. So uh if people have either opinions or want to support the existing proposal, it very very welcome the the more voices we have. uh Probably the more likely will reach some kind of.

E

D

Theoretically, so yeah, that's all I've got.

A

I will read that and comment um yeah cool.

D

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Me also stick the p: no go ahead. No go ahead. I'm also going to stick a link to the pr with the blog post in here, so that people can take a look at that.

A

uh That should be considered a draft that we should collaborate on and get to a point that we like uh David I, know I, think I saw David you on here right, uh yeah, David, I, know yeah I know you were interested in collaborating on that. So I would definitely encourage you to take a look at that yeah I'll.

E

Take a look at it. Thanks appreciate it.

A

D

And and just in case, it's not clear to anyone, although we'll be a blog post on Gateway API, it will also you know. The goal is anything that we post there also because the kubernetes blog, uh which should have a wider reach, but it's easier just to review internally. First here.

A

And I apologize in advance for things that I got horribly wrong while drafting that blog post I'm sure there's something.

A

Oh, let's see who added the sidecar containers cup item so.

B

I forgot my name: uh yeah I decided that just uh because all the magic people are here and I was working on it, so I figured I'd mention it. I assume people have seen this, but if you haven't um kubernetes just merged uh the sidecar support, wow, amazing and um well, it's amazing.

B

uh The end is great for us, so yeah I, don't know. I didn't really have that much I, don't think it's controversial other than we probably all want to implement it. It doesn't seem that complicated to implement or like there's many different ways to do it, but if anyone has questions or ideas or things that we should align on so we're all similar.

B

uh Yeah and then the other thing was um oh yeah. If you have any tooling that's looking at sidecars and whatnot um up looking for containers and start looking for containers and ink containers, it's basically it! So that's all.

A

How long this was that cap in flight.

B

um I, remember people blogging about it being shipped in 1.16, not that it was going to, but that it actually happened. um So that was 12.

E

B

Probably four years ago, so.

A

Let's, let's not have any gaps open that long.

A

Well, congratulations.

A

Anything else, or are we actually going to get out of here in 12 minutes.

B

um The ladder sounds good to me, yeah great, to see you all, but.

C

B

Fyi we're by leapy now so it'll be two weeks.

D

Oh yeah, we need to figure that out uh because we can't yeah maybe worth discussing here, because we probably shouldn't just settle on like Pacific time only meeting well like this later time, I mean I, don't know I'm based there, so it works great for me, but I know it doesn't work great for everyone. I.

A

Really, like the the alternate time.

D

A

As it happens,.

D

Yeah understood I I'm on the East Coast right now, so I I I'm feeling the pain um but uh yeah, uh so maybe bi-weekly I know. We've already talked about that. So maybe bi-weekly and just also alternate time zones in the process.

A

um I, don't think I have a strong opinion about weekly versus bi-weekly I mean I. Think fewer meetings is always a.

D

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D

Yeah and there's there's been enough, you know if we, if something really comes up, we can talk about it on the main. You know Gateway meeting on Mondays, um but this is a useful form to really get in depth on mesh things, but it seems, like the agendas have been increasingly light. So moving to bi-weekly is probably okay.

E

Actually curious uh the sidecar cap thing: um this is from the hashing core perspective. Asking do you all on the istio side, intent or drop use of sidecars entirely or is there like yeah.

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C

B

No side cars used, um but.

D

B

Still support the sidecar.

D

B

Very Beast for a very, very long transition period so.

E

Okay, got it cool thanks, yeah I, think I think on the hash course I will be probably staying on sidecars for a while as well.

A

I expect Lincoln will stick with sidecars as well, just in case anybody was curious or finds that surprising.

A

All right um Rob: do you want to mess with the meetings on the calendar or.

D

Yeah I'll follow up on slack I. Think I've got that access um yeah I can do that and.

C

A

Cool anything else.

C

Going once going twice, 15 minutes, that's I'll! Take that that's cool.

A

Cool all right thanks, everybody appreciate it. Yeah.