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From YouTube: SIG Node Sidecar WG 2023-05-02
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Meeting notes and agenda: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1E1guvFJ5KBQIGcjCrQqFywU9_cBQHRtHvjuqcVbCXvU/edit#heading=h.m8xoiv5t6qma
GMT20230502-160217_Recording_1920x1338.mp4
A
Well,
hello,
it's
a
Tuesday,
May,
2nd
2023!
It's
a
signaled,
sidecar
working
group
meeting.
Welcome
everybody
before
we
begin
I
see
a
new
face
here
at
Tom.
Do
you
want
to
introduce
yourself
and
tell
what
brought
you
here.
B
Hi
hi
thanks
all
for
having
me
I,
can't
quite
get
my
video
to
work
I.
Don't
we
don't
really
use
zoom,
so
sometimes
I
don't
know
something's
up
with
my
camera,
but
I'm
a
real
person.
The
I've
always
been
interested
in
sidecar
work.
I
come
from
Lyft,
where
I
think
we
almost
invented
the
whole
idea
of
having
Envoy.
Next
to
your
service,
we've
been
running
our
own
custom
patch
for
handling
sidecar
ordering,
as
we
call
it
in
our
Kube
version.
B
So
we
have
a
patched
kublet
version
on
all
of
our
clusters
that
does
Sidecar
ordering
for
us
and
we'd
love
to
not
have
a
patch
anymore.
So
anything
that
could
help
us
to
get
to
getting
that
Upstream
something
some
solution,
Upstream
that
everyone
accepts,
would
be
fantastic.
A
Okay,
thank
you
for
introduction,
yeah.
We
have
last
item
about
validation,
use
cases.
So,
let's
get
to
the
agenda,
you
added
this
first
one
yeah
I
think
what
happens
is
everybody's
ignoring
me
like
I,
don't
know
how
many
people
you
ping,
but
I
picked
a
lot
of
people
and
then,
whatever
promise
to
review
it
soon
was
there
any
recent
reviews.
D
A
A
Just
not
just
like
generated.
E
Files
yeah
I
was
just
running
the
numbers
like
3
500
lines
of
it
are
tests
and
it's
only
5
500
months
total,
so
I
haven't
I've,
looked
at
the
generated
yet
but
yeah,
it's
the
real
code,
changes
or
yeah,
probably
somewhere
around
the
lines
of
around,
like
fifteen
hundred
two
thousand
lines
at
most.
A
I
told
him
a
couple
times,
but
he
still
haven't
looked
at
it
and
see
my
pink
team
two
times
as
well.
Joy
is
also
the
person
I
ping,
but
I
think
Joe.
Just
maybe
he
saw
a
notification
about
sidecar
group
and
that's
why
he
interviewed
one
hour
ago.
A
Jasmine,
are
you
interested
in
like?
Can
you
introduce
yourself
and
like
if
you
want
some
information
about
us?
We
are
also
happy
to
do.
F
Yeah
sure
I've
been
interested
in
kubernetes
since,
like
I,
think
1.4,
probably
in
Earnest,
on
like
1.7
or
so,
and
I've
been
on
and
off
the
company
that
I'm
at
did
not
really
want
to
pursue
kubernetes,
and
then
they
swap
their
mind
and
then
they
swapped
their
mind
on
the
that
doesn't
really
matter
the
history
but
but
I've
been
to
a
couple
of
these,
but
I
I
haven't
been
very
consistent
because
of
different
work
duties
at
the
same
time
of
this
meeting,
so
I'm
just
glad
I
was
able
to
make
it
today.
A
Okay,
so
do
you
think
we
can
split
it
further
into
smaller
pieces?
I
just
don't
know
what
people
feel
that
complicated
about
this
PR?
What
can
we
Harry
Potter.
C
A
I
I
already
signed
a
PR
and
I
will
pinged
on
to
review
it.
D
Okay,
so
so
we
still
have
to
to
go
through
again.
The
the
enhancement
freeze
did
the
signal
already
did
the
thing
with
the
spreadsheet,
about
enhancement
for
the
128.
A
Oh
no,
we
we're
going
to
do
this
today
later
today.
So
we
start
tracking
people,
tracking
caps.
A
A
A
A
A
You
know
one
idea,
maybe
about
this
PR.
Maybe
this
renaming
can
be
done
as
pre-factoring,
but
I
don't
think
it
will
make
more
make
more
sense.
E
A
I
think
what
we
can
do
is
like
to
minimize
like
I
mean
everybody
look
inside
like
okay.
This
is
a
huge
change
like
this
change.
Does
this
matter
so
like
and
call
forward
changed
so
now,
as
I
need
to
like
understand
how
everything
goes
and
maybe,
if
we
rename
it
and
change
the
code
like
call
it
execution
graph
before
hat
like
as
a
pre-factoring,
then
maybe
easier.
D
D
A
C
A
C
C
D
Yeah,
the
only
thing
squishing
helps
when
we
need
to
rebase
when
there
are
conflicts.
Otherwise,
you
spend
like
one
hour
redoing.
C
A
Okay,
so
let's
try
to
bring
more
people
and
maybe
on
Signal
meeting
today
whether
Derek
wouldn't
come
on
signals
missing.
So
maybe
we
will
find
somebody
else
as
well.
Mournal.
D
D
And
this
is
Sergey
if,
if
we
have
like
some
files
that
are
in
your
approver
mandate
now
that's
what
you
did
with
the
tests
right,
yeah.
D
A
Okay,
being
on
top
of
this
commit
I,
don't
know
how,
like
I,
think
both
of
them
like.
A
We
don't
need
other.
Like
other
probes,
we
need
the
lifecycle,
Handler
side,
a
priest,
post
start
and
pre-stop
doing
it
as
a
probes.
So.
A
D
Maybe
we
can
ask
a
lift:
do
you
use
startup
probes
at
Lyft,
or
you
rely
on
the
readiness
we.
B
B
A
Okay,
yeah
well
I
mean
intimidation
wise.
We
need
all
of
them
just
I'm,
just
trying
to
understand
how
big
of
a
change
will
be
to
add.
Other
probes,
I
think
last
I
looked
Readiness
prox
will
be
just
API
change
and
everything
will
supposed
to
be
working.
Fine.
A
Right
and
more
end-to-end
test
yeah
with
this
work
on
splitting
files
and
I
think
what
may
be
good
is
to
cover
currently
need
Behavior,
meaning
continuous
Behavior,
with
a
antenna
test.
So
you
can
say,
like
we
didn't
change
anything
for
recording
containers,
yeah.
D
No,
no,
the
idea
was
like.
Can
we
prepare
things
like
for
the
subsequent
PR?
Already?
No,
no,
not
to
add
to
this
one.
Okay,.
C
D
And
the
last
point
the
last
Point
yes
that
I
wanted
to
add
I
remembered
that
that
dog
came
to
to
this
meeting
at
some
point:
I,
don't
remember
the
the
name.
It
was
French,
I,
think
and
then,
of
course,
there
is
from
istio.
Now
we
have
Tom
from
Lyft,
so
I
think,
once
we
we
merge
this
first
PR
we
could.
We
could
work
with
them
and
see
if
by
running
a
version
of
kind
compiled
with
our
change,
if
if
they
could
like
test
it
and
see
if
it
answers
their
needs,.
D
I
I
wanted
to
like
actively
chase
them
and
like
see,
if
make
sense
or
not
to
to
try
to
show
Facebooks
before
we
go
on
code
phase.
A
A
So
I
know
John
from
istio.
He
he
will
be
happy
to
test
it
for
us
and
he
doesn't
need
a
complicated
environment
he's
very
versing
to
like
whatever
we
can
give
him
yeah.
B
B
B
B
That's
what
I
would
like
to
do,
but
I'll
figure,
I'll
figure
something
out.
I'll
have
to
look
at
the
pr
and
see
if
I
could
take
the
API
and
just
shove
it
in
an
annotation,
because
that's
what
we
do
today,
we
just
have
this
sidecar
configuration
thing
that
we
just
shove
it
in
annotation
and
the
kublic
can
pull
it
out
and
then
do
what
it
what
it
needs
to
do.
D
Eks
you
you
manage
the
whole
the
whole.
It's
not
like
forget
it's.
It's
the
you
just
take
VMS
and
install
kubernetes
on
top,
so
you
can
set
flags
and
everything
yeah.
B
A
B
Okay,
I'll
try
to
hit
black
because
this
meeting
is
this
meeting.
I
also
missed
a
lot
because
of
work.
Other
work
meetings
that
I
have
but
I'll
contact
in
slack
yeah.
E
A
Okay,
yeah,
we
out
of
agenda
items
anything
else.