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From YouTube: Kubernetes Office Hours (US Edition) 20180220
Description
Third Wednesday of every month, everyone is welcome!
http://git.k8s.io/community/events/office-hours.md
A
A
That's
joining
we're
here
to
answer
your
user
questions
live
on
air
with
our
esteemed
panel
today
of
one
individual
actually
and
Mario
is
in
the
kubernetes
community,
both
from
a
contributor
perspective,
as
well
as
a
user
perspective,
and
you
can
find
us
in
the
office
hours
channel
on
slack
check
the
topic
for
the
chat
check,
the
topic
URL
in
there
for
the
event
information.
So
before
we
begin,
let's
just
introduce
ourselves
here.
First
I'm
Paris
I
work
at
Google
as
a
community
manager
and
Mario
wanted
to
go
ahead
and
introduce
yourself.
A
Awesome
and
thanks
so
much
Mario,
we
appreciate
it.
I
know
many
others
do
as
well.
Alright,
so
quick
ground
rules
before
we
start
first
off.
As
always,
this
is
a
judgment-free
zone.
Everyone
has
to
start
from
somewhere.
So
please
help
out
and
just
provide
your
supportive
channel.
While
we're
do
well
we'll
do
your
best,
we'll
do
our
best
I'm
searching
today
to
answer
your
questions.
A
The
Mario
is
not
going
to
have
access
to
your
cluster,
so
live
debugging
is
off-topic,
but
we're
gonna
do
our
best
to
get
you
moving
down
the
line,
so
Mario
you're
encouraged
to
expand
your
answers
with
your
experiences
and
pro
tips
and
anybody
out
there.
That's
watching.
You
can
help
us
by
pasting
in
the
URLs
to
blog
some
social
media,
and
things
like
that.
So
we
can
get
some
more
questions
flowing
in
also.
You
can
help
us
out
by
live
tweeting
for
future
references
and
things
like
that.
A
Each
session
is
recorded
and
available
in
YouTube
if
you're
using
this
for
a
work
resource.
Please
let
us
know
so
we
can
make
this
better
for
you.
If
you
want
to
be
on
the
panel.
Please
contact
us.
Also
on
the
github
page
for
office
hours,
there's
a
link
in
there
for
how
to
sign
up
to
be
a
future
volunteer.
We
really
appreciate
your
work
on
this
and,
like
I
said
before,
other
users
do
as
well
so
feel
free
to
also
hang
out
in
the
office
hours
slack
channel
at
any
time.
A
This
is
not
necessarily
a
one-time
thing,
we'll
try
to
help
out
where
we
can
so,
let's
go
ahead
and
jump
into
it.
We
do
have
a
few
questions
in
both
the
office
hours
channel,
as
well
as
the
kubernetes
users
channel
to
that
I
see
so
we
should
get
rolling
alright.
So,
let's
see
the
first
question
is
what
tools
do
you
use
to
configure
the
basics
of
your
cluster
namespaces
role,
bindings,
etc?
B
A
Mario
can
I
interrupt
you
for
one
sec.
You
are
coming
through
super
low
to
the
audience.
Yeah
I
can
hear
you
fine,
that's
the
interesting
part
and,
according
to
the
livestream
controls
right
here,
you're
coming
through
okay
as
well
I
think
they
said
that
I'm
fine.
If
anybody
in
the
chat
thinks
I'm
okay,
then
then
let
me
know
yeah.
It
looks
like
it
was
like
this
early
on
the
earlier
show
too
so
I
wonder
if
it.
A
A
The
good
news
to
folks
listening,
though,
is
that
this
is
recorded
and
the
audio
shouldn't
on
our
recording
side
be
okay,
I,
don't
know
how
yeah,
hopefully
anyway.
If
not,
then
we
can
definitely
transcribe
this
stuff
as
well,
since
we'll
have
them
reporting
all
right,
yeah,
no
I'm
tweaking
stuff.
On
my
end
too
and
yeah.
B
A
A
A
A
All
right
also
yeah,
it
looks
like
if
we
yell
a
little
bit
louder
than
folks
can
hear
us
a
little
bit
I'm
getting
some
separate
pings
in
other
chats.
So
let's
see
well,
actually
you
brought
up
a
question
that
I'm
interested
in
from
the
1.9
release.
What
are
some
things
that
users
should
be
aware
of
that?
Maybe
you
see
that
they
aren't
and
then
maybe
even
same
question
for
you
know
what
should
they
be
prepared
for
for
110?
Then
you
know
about.
B
B
A
B
B
It
works
with
us
as
well
they're
working
on
federated
clusters
and
from
the
latest
from
Bob
Hill,
great
guys,
bastard
now
he's
doing
this
for
the
University
and
to
complete
the
last
meetings
that
you
know.
Federation
is
something
that
is
weekly
getting
overall
in
the
community
and
so
I
think
a
lot
of.
A
A
So
it
looks
like
someone
wants
to
know
how
a
minion
determined
its
available
resources
to
report
to
the
master.
It
seems
like
their
issue
right
now
that
it's
under
reporting
and
it's
a
bare-metal
installation.
It
looks
like
they're
saying
that
they've
noticed
that
their
minions
fail
to
schedule
pods
due
to
the
memory
limits,
but
over
32
gigabytes
of
memory
is
available
in
the
nodes.
B
To
see
you
know,
it's
a
database
that
changes
things,
how
many
you
know
from
processes,
maybe
adjusting
and
whatnot
so
like
I
said
I
can't
give
you
a
ton
on
that
recording
from
a
minion
that
might
be
a
network
issue
that
could
be.
You
know,
what's
going
on
with
Cuba,
that's
just
get
down
and
dirty
little
bit
and
maybe
what's
going
on
use
your
your
tools,
the
best
you
can
so
not
a
ton
to
say
on
that.
Sorry
I'm
still
learning
a
lot
in
that
realm
as
well.
A
A
A
A
Well,
what
we
can
do
is
actually
answer
or
I
can
get
your
opinion
on
some
of
the
questions
that
one
of
the
users
is
in
the
chat
room
now
that
we
answered
this
morning
since
he's
here
live
one.
Oh
one,
sec,
let's
say
I'm
scrolling
right
now,
all
right!
Here's
one
right
now,
what's
the
accepted
guidance
for
determining
whether
to
use
a
single
node
tool
with
nodes,
matching
your
most
expensive
workload
or
multiple
node
pools
with
nodes
matching
the
specs
of
the
desired
workload,
single
pole
with
EP
machines
or
multiple
poles
with
workload
specific
tuning.
B
Scheduling
and
so
it's
it's
been
acting
it.
So
it's
basically,
if
you
keep
throwing
workloads
at
at
kubernetes,
it
will
try
to
balance
them.
Both
right
so
are
things
that
have
an
even
fuel,
and
so
that
can
be
changed
and
there
was
actually
just
article
on
point
on
how
to
change
that
or
your
use
case.
I
think
it
was
open
AI,
they
start
using
renée's.
They
wanted
to
basically
fill
one
node
after
another
serially
right,
and
so
you
would
have
to
look
at
how
your
application
is
utilized
and
I.
B
So
you
know,
maybe
you
do
in
efficient
manner
where
you
utilize
a
whole
node,
and
then
you
can
easily
auto
scale
and
with
it
is
to
be
or
ninety
percent
or
something
like
that.
So
scheduling
is
not
one
of
these
things.
That's
a
static
actually
not
much
in
kubernetes
as
most
things,
if
not
all
things
are
completely
tunable
by
some
means,
so
it's
really
dependent
on
your
use
case
and
what
you're
trying
to
do
so
start,
taking
a
look
at
the
docs
and
see
what
what
you
can
start
to
do
play
around
with
that's.
B
B
I
mean,
for
instance,
we
use
force,
which
has
been
an
experience
for
sure,
and
there
is
a
mobile
path
on
the
host
at
which
we
can
go
and
actually
like,
throw
in
extra
things
that
I'm
get
sanctum
and
get
into
other
other
parts
of
the
cluster.
So
there
is
a
local
path.
It
really
I
like
to
hear
more
about
what
they're
trying
to
achieve
as
well
so
yeah.
Many
definitely
jumping
in
six
storage.
They'll
get
I'll
get
some
answers.
It
sounds
like
an
interesting
problem.
They
might
be
trying
to
also
cool.
B
It's
fantastic
but
there's
so
we
like
to
do
advanced
topics,
and
you
know
we
had
a
talk
on
go
here
in
January
and
was
fantastic
was
a
little
high
level
and
that's
fine,
because
a
lot
of
people
in
the
DevOps
world
aren't
getting
into
programming
right.
They,
they
they're
mainly
ops
and
they're,
trying
to
get
into
the
dev
side.
They
might
be
able
to
do.
B
Some
Python
bug,
though,
is
just
kind
of
foreign
to
them,
but
it
talks
like
sto
that
we're
trying
to
get
in
this
you
talk
actually
is
as
soon
as
you
know,
something
in
the
mesh
service
bench
and
of
Rome.
We
want
that
to
be
advanced.
You
want
30
or
40
minutes
or
something
for
advanced,
because
I
want
people
to
walk
away
and
say
holy
cow.
I
can
do
this
blue
green
thing
in
two
seconds
you
know
I
can
do
these
slow,
rollouts
I
can
look
for
DDoS.
You
know
egress
security
problems.
B
It's
utterly
like
I
want
people,
it's
kind
of
minds
to
blow
in
a
little
bit
so
yeah.
If
anyone
in
the
community
is
is
listening
and
wants
to
do
where
you're
gonna
wear
what
you
are
open
to
a
remote
remote
talks
as
well,
and
so
you
know
whatever
you
want
to
do.
If
you
want
to
just
talk
to
the
DevOps
community
in
an
hour,
you
have
an
open
forum
and.
B
Session
I
can
go
over
really
quick
again
because
I
know
be
having
audio
issues
at
my
company
and
since
I
started
using
kubernetes
like
I.
Did
it
the
hard
way
right,
I
used,
you
know
many
fine,
yellow
file,
it's
got
its
own
daemon
set.
It's
got
just
so
many
other
objects
and
Cooper
died
in
this.
So
if
you
step
back
and
say
well,
my
workload
is:
is
this
visit
employment?
B
Well,
it
might
also
any
other
assets
of
other
objects
and
kubernetes
that
run
like
you
know
like
it's
running
on
a
VPS
online
right,
and
so
how
gives
you
and
the
home
charts
and
I'll
link
this
as
well?
The
home
charts
are
I
mean
the
repo
I
keep
like
going
to
every
week
and
I
can
scroll
down
further
because
people
are
committing
pre-made.
You
know
prepackaged
found
charts
and
it's
not
a
chart
and
additional
sense.
It's
not
charting
anything
out
for
you.
It's
it's
a
deployment.
B
It's
a
catalog
of
applications
that
have
been
configured
where
you
just
ask
them.
You
set
up
a
single
a
file
with
some
of
the
options
that
you
care
about,
for
what
you're
trying
to
run
and
you
run
how
them
install
and
you're
done,
and
you
might
need
to
pass
it
a
couple
other
things
where
you
might
want
to
tune
it
a
certain
way,
but
you
can
edit
these
things
with
go
templates
to
kind
of
do
what
you
want
it
to
do,
and
so
that
single
can
big
pile
of
the
values.
B
Diamo
file
is
all
you
need
and,
and
you
can
pass
anything
and
you
know
environment
variables,
you
want
to
change
the
width.
The
ingress
looks
change
reports
from
the
service,
you
know,
etc.
All
these
these
things
are
very
flexible
and
it's
all
urging
neutral
and
and
what's
great
about
that
is
with
tiller,
which
is
so
tiller.
So
the
helm
is
the
the
client
binary
that
you
will.
It's
like
it's
your
cue,
CTO
and
tiller.
B
Is
the
process
running
in
the
cluster
and
so
Pelton
talks
of
tiller
and
says:
ok,
what's
out
there,
what
a
visitor
we
had!
You
know
where
they're
learning
what
you
know
will
we
need
to
do,
and
so
that's
how
element
it
will
need
to
upgrade
and
an
upgrade
is
simply
here's
a
provision.
I
made
a
slight
change
in
the
config
map
for
my
application,
hello
grade
and
talks
to
tiller
and
it
gets
that
deployed,
and
that
is
extremely
powerful.
B
So
it's
giving
you
tools
that
you
know
you
would
have
just
editing
a
mold
directly
and
it's
also
giving
you
the
central
context
where
someone
else
you
organization
can
clone
this
repo
and
and
start
using
helm
like
you
were
using
it
two
days
ago
on
your
local
right
and
see
what's
running
in
the
classroom
or
revisions.
Are
there
of
problems
have
arisen
and
etc
and
start
to
point?
So
it's
a
really.
B
With
others
on
Buster
and
I,
don't
know
it's
just
been
a
fantastic
experience,
but
so
I
will
stop
talking
their
case
on
it
as
well.
From
from
hefty,
oh
and
chill
beta,
he
gave
a
talk,
I
think
it's
on
YouTube
our
own
pace
on
it
at
this
recent
year
in
December,
and
that
is
a
product
that
is
definitely
open
company
and
that
will
look
at
your
application
and
create
from
scratch
the
camel
and
the
kind
of
templates
you
need
to
get
it
deployed,
which
is
an
extremely
powerful
it
might
work
in
tandem
account
as
well.
A
Speaking
of
home,
someone
actually
posted
in
the
chat
they.
They
submitted
an
issue
yesterday
to
helm
and
it
was
labeled
a
question.
Support
actually
posted
for
you
in
the
zoom
chat,
not
too
sure
if
this
is
very
specific
or
actually
too
specific.
For
this
call-
and
it
looks
like
they've-
got
a
chart
where
they're
trying
to
deploy
it
config
map
on
a
pre,
install
I,
don't
know
if
you
want
to
take
a
look
at
some
of
the
details
are
in
there.
A
B
Sort
of
condition,
or
something
or
it's
I
mean
that
yeah
so
there's
a
mine.
She
will
respond
to
this
guy,
there's
no
debug
option
as
well
and
everyone.
So
he
can
verify
and
you
can
see
any
extra
era,
but
not
from
that.
A
lot
of
the
things
with
how
if
something's
not
working
right,
go
back
to
their
bones
and
look
at
the
config.
B
So
in
this
case,
look
at
the
config
Navin
itself
and
try
to
just
keep
apply
the
keep
CTL
apply
it
like
you
would
a
normal
demo
file
and
make
sure
that
it
actually
will
apply
and
right,
that's
a
little
bit
more
advanced
troubleshooting.
But
this
is.
This
is
an
interesting
one.
I
haven't
really
seen
it
before,
where
it's
just
that
simple
of
an
error
not
not
too
deep,
but
I
will
get
it
so
that
here's
the
great
thing
about
the
Helmand
Community
House
summit
is
going
on
right
now.
B
I
wish
I
could
travel
there
for
it,
but
you
jump
ahead
and
slack
and
you
go
at
home
at
home
users,
and
you
will
get
an
answer
very
quickly.
The
community
is
fantastic,
and
so
definitely
like
he'll
get
an
answer
to
this
very,
very
soon
someone
you
just
try
this
and
he's
like.
Oh
that's,
what's
going
on,
I
screw
this
up
or
whatever
it
is
so
definitely
definitely
the
home
community
is
one
of
the
best
in
the
Cooper
gaming
system.
So
I
will
respond
to
this
as
well
and
get
that
going
awesome.
A
So
for
folks
that
might
be
watching
right
now
and
don't
necessarily
understand
helm.
What's
like
a
quick,
maybe
30,
second,
to
one
minute,
elevator
pitch
that
you
could
provide
on
helm,
especially
maybe
why
you
think
it's
so
awesome.
B
Is
a
deployment
utility?
That's
that's
the
one
sentence:
that's
all
it
is
a
self-contained
self
managed
or
you
know,
fully
managed
if
you
will
solution
for
deployment
or
workload,
because
what
it
does
is.
It
creates
your
workload
as
a
single
unit,
effectively
a
directory
or
repository,
and
you
reference
that
repository
or
that
directory
with
the
help
command
and
it
deploys
everything
in
there.
So
it's
it's
kind
of
this
interactive,
fantastic
way
to
atomically,
define
and
deploy
a
workload
and
application
whatever
it
is
that
you're
trying
to
get
on
your
cluster.
B
B
Sure
I
think
it
a
lot
of
people
worry
about
this
resource.
I
forgot
that
resource.
You
know
what
do
I
do
about
all
these
individual
things
that
need
to
be
running
for
my
application
and
I
learn
systemic
or
services.
So
what
are
the
core
services
on
your
cluster?
Maybe
is
a
certificate
manager?
It's
your
interests
controller.
You
might
have
kibana,
you
might
have
other
logging
facilities
might
ever
three
or
four
20
different
things
and
all
those
things
when
they're
self
contained
in
your
ECS
solution
and
they're
managed
with
helm.
B
It's
just
so
much
easier
to
see.
What's
going
on
where
things
are
failing,
what
revisions
you're
on
and
you
know,
try
to
isolate
issues
or
get
things
upgraded
and
deployed
so
yeah
helm
is
a
fantastic
workload.
Deployment
utility
I
would
say,
I'm
trying
to
think
about.
Another
needs
out
there
that
impaired
it.
Yeah
I
was
actually
gonna.
Do
a
question.
Yeah
so
I
mean
another
another
utility,
I.
B
Don't
know
I
can't
really
think
of
one
right
now.
I
know:
I
come
from
the
Rancher
days
where
ranch
door
was
helm,
is
kind
of
the
same
type
of
thing,
maybe
a
little
bit
higher
level,
because
it's
not
the
one
that
will
do
the
actual.
You
know
it
won't
do
finding,
but
it
will
talk
the
components
in
that
opponent
is
communities
API
and
tiller
right.
So
it's
it's.
This
idea
of
you
know
most
people
with
doctor
compose
you
find
a
property
on
github
and
it's
got
800
ml
file
in
it
and
you're
good
to
go.
B
B
A
you
know,
github
type
interface
and
it's
it's
again.
A
single
binary
and
you're
basically
pushing
any
changes
to
your
application
up,
took
at
them
and
then
they're
deploying
that
in
their
structure
they
abstract
away
all
the
very
dense
details
of
what
are
your
workload
needs
and
just
provides
them.
So
it's
it's.
This
idea
of
the
singular
point
for
handling
your
applications
and
Alan
when
your
workloads
across
your
cluster,
so
new
cluster
you've
got
an
API
got
your
keeps
ETL.
You
know
indication
you
get
your
token
set
up.
X7
deployed
application
boom.
There's.
A
B
B
So
a
two-year
feed
and
block
out
all
the
noise
you
need
to
and
Q
Khan
I
think
it's
just
an
underscore
or
something
I
forget
with
the
the
main
one
is,
but
all
your
friends
like
Paris
and
all
the
other
community
coordinators
and
all
the
other
people,
people
Brian,
grant
and
Jorge
Castro,
but
all
local
people
in
the
community
and
definitely
felt
skytower
and
yeah
I
can't
take
many
topics.
I'll,
look
at
the
I
square,
oh
look
at
this
tab,
but
I
don't
know.
B
B
Went
and
I
was
like
all
right.
This
is
gonna,
be
enterprising,
it's
gonna
be
people
that
have
their
own
decided
way
of
approaching
things,
and
it
was
completely
the
opposite.
Kelsey
came
on
stage
and
I
think
my
heart
was
racing
because
all
the
people
there
are
just
so
into
this
and
they're
so
into
helping
each
other
and
the
openness
of
the
community
to
sense
yep.
B
What
they've
been
doing,
and
so
you
know,
I
was
going
to
spend
money
on
the
CN,
CF,
merchandise
and
I
just
talked
with
some
random
people
at
you
know
around
the
lunch
periods
and
whatnot,
it's
a
really
great
community,
and
so
there's
a
lot.
A
lot
coming
out.
I'm
sure
this.
This
key
you
nothing
short
of
that.
B
I
think
that's
cool,
because
it's
not
practical
right,
you're
not
going
to
go
into
work
and
do
that.
But
it's
cool
because
you
not
want
to
figure
out
how
it's
done
right.
What
components
are
talking
to
each
other
and
making
a
chain
to
get
that
done
and
he's?
So
he
so
you
know
Google
called
a
little
bit,
which
is
I,
mean
the
leader
and
doing
all
this
stuff
as
to
how
flexible
it
is
so
that
there
was
that
that
was
pretty
impressive
and
I.
Think
for
me,
probably
anything
related.
B
So
there's
like
five
talks
on
SEO.
If
you
come
and
I
can't
remember
which
one
it
is,
but
there
was
a
more
advanced
one
that
talked
about
all
of
the
elements
that
sto
provides
you
out
of
the
box.
The
green
deployments,
things
like
rolling
out
a
certain
application
to
five
and
fifty
percent
of
your
overall
customer
base
right,
so
slowly
rolling
something
handling
things
like
DDoS
attacks
or
certain
types
of
traffic
that
are
reaching
your
pods.
That
should
be
I.
Think
a
lot
of
people
in
the
community
in
US
has
early
order.
B
Some
of
the
hot
topics-
networking
that
we're
talking
it's
a
very
hard
problem
to
solve
for
a
lot
of
people
in
the
ingress
realm,
especially
with
what
their
method
right.
So
we
take
for
granted
with
Google
cloud
because
there-
and
you
know
us-
might
provide
us
right.
They
provide
a
lot
of
the
lead
there
for
us,
but
when
you're
trying
to
do
this
yourself
and
you're
on
a
mini
cube
on
your
laptop
there's,
a
lot
more,
that
you
can
learn
about
and
and
storage
as
well.
B
A
B
Depends
on
what
they're
trying
to
do
it
depends
on
what
they're
a
lot
of
the
time.
The
answer
is
out
there
and
it
might
be
the
introduction.
Here's
control
for
our
organization,
we're
working
on
writing
our
own
are
probably
going
to
open
source
or
something
because
it
solves
three
other
problems
that
we
write
Johnny
over
here.
Just
in
chat
said
it's,
it's
not
easy,
that's
very
true!
It
isn't
easy
and
so
I
think
people
they
might
be
using
what
you
do.
B
Do
it
right
you're,
not
the
only
one
I
guarantee
it
so
yeah
as
a
user
I
think
Cabernets
doing
during
each
other,
provided
those
those
abilities
are
those
basic
aspects
to
learn
more
about
what
you're
trying
to
do.
So
it's
it's
all
on
your
engineering
team,
in
your
goals
and
doing
doing
the
research,
but
that's
that's
again
with
the
openness
and
the
sharing
and
the
community,
and
a
lot
of
these
six
have
a
hangout
that
you
can
just
jump
in
the
hangout,
but
weekly
coming
up,
they're
doing
and
just
talk
to
them,
it's
very
open.
B
A
Good
good
push
for
users
also
contributing
to
I,
spend
a
great
deal
of
time
with
the
contributor
experiencing.
What
is
what
do
you
think
is
the
best
way
for
users
to
start
contributing,
whether
that's
to
whether
that's
code,
whether
it's
Docs,
whether
it's
events,
wait.
What
kind
of
advice
do
you
have
to
the
the
you
know?
Maybe
the
casual
user
out
there,
that's
sort
of
interested
in
you
know
what
it's
gonna
take
to
make
a
contribution
to
kubernetes.
A
B
Don't
worry
about
it
like
file
that
issue,
because
someone
again
has
run
into
it
or
is
thinking
about
it
or
will
need
that
at
some
point
and
it's
something
that
as
a
community,
we
need
to
approach
and
and
look
to
the
future
of
what
many
templates
going
to
entail
so
meetups
in
your
local
area.
That's
another
one
that
huge
ones
since
I,
you're
gonna,
be
oh
you'd,
be
surprised,
the
amount
of
introverts
that
actually
love
talking
about
this
stuff.
B
B
Because
they
good
in
the
extra
Saturday
contagious
property
burning
21st
with
a
lot
of
cool
blogs,
a
lot
of
cool,
oven,
newsletters,
I,
know
done,
and
lots
ish
by
Chris
short
is
a
pretty
good
newsletter
that
you
don't
have
to
sit
on
Twitter
every
day
and
his
new
look
newsletter,
get
caught
up
on
I'm
kind
of
everything
and
there's
links
to
what
other
people
are
doing.
I
think
so
a
pair
is
like
we
have
any
we're.
You
know,
we
know
their
names
right
in
the
community.
B
What
they're
doing
they've
done,
something
they,
but
it
become
a
core
tenant
of
something
and
so
I
think
Twitter
allows
you
to
kind
of
associate
a
person
with
something
and
it
can
help
you
spawn
a
conversation
with
them
about
the
future
of
that
thing.
Right,
it
might
be
ingress,
it
might
be
some.
You
know
cluster
auto-scaling,
whatever
it
is,
and
there's
a
lot
of
projects
to
people
like
a
look
that
makes
you
contribute.
There's
everything,
there's
physically
everything
everyone's
on
top
of
things.
B
Well,
not
exactly
I
mean
there's
projects
that
are
in
the
kubernetes
namespace
that
are
still
that
they're
being
built
from
the
ground
up
right
in
there
and
develop
of
their
data.
They
need
a
lot
more
input,
even
if
you
don't
have
any
code,
even
if
you're,
not
someone
can
just
sit
down
and
bang
out
some
Python
or
oh,
like
don't
worry
about
it.
Your
opinion
is
a
huge
part
of
this.
B
Put
in
your
past
experience
what
you've
seen
and
why
them
changing
a
flag
or
them
putting
in
some
more
flexible
way
for
something
to
be
done
might
help
the
overall
community
so
just
use
your
voice
and
its
well.
Don't
don't
be
too
afraid
to
do
that
so
and
you
know
there's
the
CNC
up
slack
as
well
and
there's
you
know
other.
You
know
small
communities,
possibly
Louisville
to
you,
that
you
can
get
involved
with
so
yeah
like
I,
said
and
I
will
I'm
loving.
B
You
know
I,
don't
like
at
someone
on
Twitter
no
problem,
I,
don't
care
if
they
live
in
Africa.
If
they've
done
something,
it's
cool
and
I'm
interested
in
it
and
I
want
to
talk
to
them.
I,
look
big
them
because
you'd
be
surprised
how
that
makes
someone
feel
and-
and
you
know,
get
a
conversation
you
like
right
so
do
not
be
afraid
to
do
those
things
and
do
not
be
afraid
that
you
are
not
smart
enough
because
I'm
not
very
smart
and
somehow
I'm.
B
A
So
there
are
say:
there's
people
at
a
company
who
are
currently
using
kubernetes
and
they'd
like
to
start
contributing,
but
they
want
to
make
a
business
case
out
of
it
for
the
company
to
start
contributing
back.
What
are
some
business
justifications
that
you
can
think
of
for
companies
wanting
to
take
action
into
contributing
upstream
versus
just
being
users.
B
Yes,
that's
a
fantastic
one
are
I,
just
kind
of
some
of
these
things
to
our
higher
ups
organization
about
what
what
do
they
got?
Why
should
we
do
this,
and
so
there's
two
sides
to
this
the
first
side-
and
you
saw
both
of
them,
but
the
first
side
is
the
policies
of
yours
right
so
I've
been
in
companies
where
they
will
not
give
back
in
anything
in
you
internally
is
meant
to
stay
internally
and
they're,
keeping
it
there.
They
will
not
only
source
it
they
don't.
They
also
might
not
want
to
worry
about
accidental
slip-ups.
B
Accidental
is
building
out
accidental
details
about
their
core
structure.
I
mean
this
is
all
if,
if
I'm
an
attacker
who's,
looking
at
a
specific,
you
know
company's
network
and
I
want
to
try
to
find
you
know
some
some
details
about
it.
Looking
at
repositories
that
they
contributed
to
would
be
one
of
the
first
ones
right
to
see.
B
If
I
can
one
of
any
details
so
that
reconnaissance
trying
to
get
that
so
getting
past
that
will
be,
you
know,
talk
to
the
people,
you
talk
to
it's
your
manager
or
their
manager,
whatever
it
is,
or
the
law
department
of
your
of
your
organization.
So
there's
that
side
of
it.
The
second
sign
is
justification
right.
So
why
should
we
put
the
extra
resources
into
contributing
back
because
it's
not
as
easy
as
as
many
piece
like
I
mean
you
do
need
to
make
sure
you're
not
doing
anything.
That
is
a
sensitive
to
your
organization.
B
You
need
to
make
sure
that
you're,
the
agnostic
me
about
the
approach
to
solving
the
problem
that
you're.
You
know
that
you're
implementing
for
your
solution
right,
you
can't
just
say
well
worthy.
You
know
we
have
these
X
Y
&
Z
and
we're
just
gonna
focus
on
fixing
around
X,
Y
and
C
well,
but
there's
a
through
Z
right
and
that's
what
the
world
is
facing
as
well.
B
So
how
can
they
analyse,
maybe
try
to
add-
or
you
know,
pull
requests
or
add
some
sort
of
strengthing
in
there
to
get
those
you
know
a
through
a
to
W
in
there.
Well
yeah
a
to
W
in
there.
I
can't
help
it
today.
So
the
other
thing
is
talent
or
visibility.
So
I
love
blog
posts
from
companies
that
I've
never
heard
of,
and
it's
a
80
page
whatever
it
is.
I'll
read
it
all:
it's
a
long
article
on
what
they
did
to
deploy,
kubernetes
and
sometimes
I'll
start
scrumming
I'm
like
no.
B
Don't
do
that?
Oh
that's
it
right
like
it's!
It's
not
that
I'm!
Looking
for
the
ideas,
it's
the
use
cases
right
and
now
I
just
learned
about
the
kickback
company
I
learned
what
they
do.
I
went
through
the
website
because
they
sound
interesting.
They
saw
you
know,
they're,
attacking
a
problem,
kubernetes
they're,
doing
something
cool
and
while
they
provide
some
value
in
some
way,
some
value
add
that
is
interesting
to
me
or
my
organization
right
or
is
something
that
I'll
bookmark
many
many
years
later.
B
B
Kubernetes
administrator
exam
it
and
most
already
should,
because
you
get
an
employee
who
knows,
you
know
very
intimately
the
technology
you're
trying
to
deploy,
but
you
get
someone
who
is
also
active
in
in
the
community
once
and
you
know,
is
to
come,
becomes
a
professional
at
it,
and
you
know
they
can
then
turn
around
and
get
things
back
to
the
community
and
their
respective
right,
because
they've
been
doing
it.
So
much
they've
got
me
done
and
it
just
makes
sense.
People
are
going
to
say:
oh
they
did
it
this
way.
B
Why
can't
we
do
it
that
way?
Or
you
know,
how
does
this
make
sense
for
what
we're
trying
to
do
so?
It's
it's.
Also,
a
lot
of
works,
use,
not
github,
and
so
at
the
end
of
the
day,
did
is
get
code
is
code
so
that
shouldn't
make
it
hard
to
contribute.
It
may
be
a
few
extra
cycles
right.
So
if
you
put
in
a
story
in
your
JIRA
and
it
says,
solve
X
Y,
Z
D
and
you
solve
it,
there's
gonna
be
a
little
bit
more
effort.
B
You
might
have
to
do
to
get
that
out
whether
it's
yarn,
whether
it's
a
series
of
commits
to
a
repo
American
Express,
just
released
photon,
which
is
a
HTTP
lo
Testament
and
it's
at
least
got
a
readme
and
it's
I
think
it
has
details
on
like
how
to
contribute
and
why
why?
What
was
the
goal
were
they
trying
to
solve?
And
this
goes
back
to
you're,
not
the
first
one
to
do
this.
Most
companies
are
running
into
many
of
the
same
issues,
especially
in
their
metal.
B
All
it
is
there's
like
this
box
of
issues
that
have
been
there
for
a
while,
and
there
were
nicking
them
off
one
at
a
time,
but
but
you're
not
going
to
get
things
kind
of
solved
if
they're
not
coming
to.
You
know
up
to
the
to
the
forefront,
if
you
will
so
definitely
definitely
again
the
active,
be
open
and
just
kind
of
voice.
It
adds
know
we
can
get
visibility.
People
will
know
the
ER.
Why
would
easy
this
technology
and
what
we're
doing
that's
cool
right?
B
But
it's
a
nice
no
problem,
because
someone
else
is
trying
to
do
the
exact
same
thing,
maybe
not
with
the
address,
but
with
something
else
on
kubernetes
and
so
we're
we're
kind
of
in
this
train
on
solving
this
one
problem,
which
is
effective,
swords,
that's
replicated
redundant,
you
know
the
over
etc.
Has
all
these
features
that
we
need
etcetera.
B
So,
yes,
it's
a
hard
sell
for
some
companies,
if
you're
an
insurance
company
here,
a
financial
company,
it's
even
harder
but
think
about
getting
on
the
front
page
of
hacker
news
and
how
much
of
a
win
that
could
be
intimate.
But
people
love
to
read
what
other
people
and
people
are
talking
about
themselves,
not.
C
C
A
A
For
this
morning,
the
community
with
developer
volunteers
like
Mario,
for
instance,
and
Jorge,
who
normally
hostess
folks
like
VMware
we've
works,
Red
Hat,
pivotal
packet,
Northwestern,
Mutual,
liquid,
with
hefty
Oh
giant,
swarm,
Google
bit
Danny
and
Amazon
all
support
defined
question
for
Question
and
Answer
folks
today
and
again,
if
you'd
like
to
join
us,
join
the
office
hours
slack
channel
with
details
there
on
how
to
get
involved,
also
George,
who
is
regularly
hosts.
This
is
going
to
be
holding
raffle
soon,
with
audio
with
the
audience
with
shirts
and
kubernetes
fidget
spinners.
That
were
awesome.
A
If
you
haven't
checked
out
kubernetes
fidget
spinners,
yet
I
believe
they're
in
the
CN
c
CN
CF
store
at
this
point
they're
it's
super
cool
and
also
again
feel
free
to
hang
out
in
the
office
hours
slack
channel.
We
appreciate
you
and
we'll
help
you
as
much
as
we
can
all
right
Mario.
It's
Anna
pleasure
thanks.
So
much.