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From YouTube: SIG Cluster Lifecycle 2021-07-13
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A
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A
B
Yeah,
I
don't
see
the
video
either
we
can.
I
moved
the.
I
moved
that
item
to
the
last
item
so
that
we
could
have
some
extra
time,
but.
A
Sure,
okay,
so
the
first
topic
we
wanted
to
discuss
is
something
that
has
been
going
on
as
a
a
bit
of
a
discussion
in
previous
sequence,
lifecycle
meetings
and
also
on
the
mailing
list,
which
is
we
may
want
to
change
the
meeting
time
for
this
particular
call,
because
some
people
express
that
like
8
a.m,
pacific
time
is
not
ideal
for
them
and
we
do
have
a
lot
of
participants
from
the
usa.
A
So
this
is
a
doodle
that
people
can
vote
for
a
new
meeting
time.
I
only
picked
some
times
tuesday
and
wednesday.
Obviously,
the
meeting
is
sorry.
The
week
is
packed
with
meetings
everybody's
joining
a
war
of
different
meetings,
all
the
time,
but
the
the
previous.
What
which
is
my
preference
is
moving
to?
This
is
my
time
zone,
but
this
is
8
a.m,
pacific,
which
is
the
old
time
of
the
meeting
up.
So
this
is
the
link,
please
vote.
If
you
are
interested
in
a
different
time.
B
Wonderful,
thank
you.
I
have
a
very
slow
computer
today,
so
I
apologize
if
I
skip
or
freeze,
but
I
will
do
my
best.
I,
this
is
more
of
a
notification.
Excuse
me
notification
that
we
did
put
in
a
maintainer
track,
or
I
put
in
a
maintainer
track
proposal
for
coupon
usa.
B
This
2021,
which
is
happening
or
is
scheduled
to
happen
in
person
in
los
imperson
and
virtual
in
los
angeles
in
october,
and
that
that
maintainer
track
purple
was
on
the
idea
of
trying
to
like
really
foster
some
cross
project.
B
Collaboration
like
I
feel
like
we
do,
I
think,
an
excellent
job
on
each
individual
project
and
a
less
good
job
on
getting
their
projects
working
well
together,
the
subprojects,
and
so
I
thought
that
that
would
be
a
good
thing
for
us
to
discuss
and
try
to
seed
and
kick
off
in
person
making
the
most
of
finally
being
back
in
person.
So
we'll
see
if
that
tool
gets
accepted,
but
we
did.
We
did
submit
a
maintainer
proposal,
maintainer
track
proposal
before
that.
On
that
topic,.
A
Let's
take
joseph,
did
you
discuss
with
them
like
the
potential
of
giving
us
more
time
instead
of
35
minutes.
B
I
haven't
yet.
I
can
certainly
raise
that
with
them.
Yes,
so
for
people
that
don't
know
the
the
recommended
format
of
a
talk,
maintenance
talk
is,
if
I
recall
correctly,
15
minutes
of
introductory
and
then
25
minutes
of
deep
dive,
so
sort
of
trying
to
meet
the
needs
of
both
audiences
meet
the
needs
of
both
audiences
with
a
new
and
an
experienced
audience
in
the
same
effectively
45
minute
session.
B
I
feel
like
that's
pushing
it
a
bit
in
terms
of
how
realistic
it
is
and
in
terms
of
timelines
I
feel
like
we
could
probably
I
feel
like
we've,
given
the
introduction
talk
to
enough
times
that
we
could
almost
just
curtail
that
time,
but
I
can
certainly
follow
up
with
them
and
ask
if
we
can
have
a
separate
session.
I
felt
like
first
step
was
probably
to
get
the
talk
accepted
and
then
to
start
negotiating
more
time.
A
Yeah,
because
if
they
accept
it,
I'm
not
sure
whether
they're
going
to
just
put
it
in
the
schedule
and
fix
the
time
slot,
and
things
like
that,
so
I
was
hopeful
hoping
that
we
can
negotiate
for
like
a
birds
of
a
feather
session.
A
Do
is
this
a
conversation
or
ebay?
You
could
also
add
me
on
cc.
I
mean
obviously,
I'm
not
going
to
interfere.
If
you
want.
B
No,
I
I'm
happy
to
I'll
kick
off
the
thread
and
I'll
I'll
cc.
You
and
I
guess
tim
as
well,
but
I
will
I
will
see
you
definitely
I'll.
Do
that.
A
Yeah
and
I'm
not
sure
how
it's
going
to
work
with
the
50
virtual
format,
are
they
going
to
broadcast
into
a
zoom
channel
or
something
that
people
can
join
because
I'm
not
going
to
I'm
not
going
to
the
united
states
for
this
one.
So
if
I
want
to
participate,
it's
going
to
be
a
bit
sketchy,
but
I
don't.
B
Know
I
don't
I
I
would
imagine
like
everything
else
with
covert.
No
one
knows,
and
we
will
see
and
it's
everyone's
first
time,
and
so
I
guess
we'll
see
how
it
goes.
I
imagine
that
we'll
have
someone
who,
like
the
room
leader,
will
try
to
broadcast
the
questions
for
people
that
are
remote,
but
we
will.
We
will
see
what.
B
A
Right
move
moving
to
the
next
topic,
basically,
to
give
some
context
here:
sequence
lifecycle,
as
a
group,
has
to
provide
reports
to
the
kubernetes
steering
committee
about
the
health
of
some
of
the
projects
that
are
listed
under
sequester
lifecycle
as
su
project.
A
We
have
a
lot
of
sub
projects
in
this
city.
Boot
cube
is
one
of
them,
so
I
was
looking
at
the
overall
health
of
the
repository
like
how
active
it
is.
How
many
commits
go
into
it
like
do.
Do
we
have
a
lot
of
issues?
We
have
a
lot
of
pr's,
so
I
can
show
it
to
the
meeting,
but
basically
I
think
the
repository
has
become
a
bit
stale
without
a
lot
of
commits
going
in
like
the
last
one.
I
think
it
was
from
approved.
Let
me
check
who
approved
it.
A
A
So
we
have
some
cabinets
from
documentation
commits
for
january,
like
mostly.
A
We
can
say
the
repository
is
mostly
still
at
this
point.
We
it's
not
what
qualifies
a
kubernetes
super
project
community,
so
something
that
we
have
been
doing
in
this
group
is
that
we
try
to
archive.
A
You
know
soup
projects
that
have
this
state
like
bootcup
and
one
example
was
cube,
aws,
which
we
also
archived
some
time
ago,
but
somebody
stepped
up
and
took
ownership
of
the
project
and
we
migrated
it
to
another
github
organization
where
I
don't
know
what
is
a
current
state,
but
we
basically
migrated
the
community
to
there
because
we
have
this
requirement
for
the
kubernetes
steering
it's
really
hard
for
us
to
make
an
argument
about
the
state
of
some
of
these,
mostly
steel
sub
projects,
and
yesterday
I
messaged
the
bootcup
slack
channel,
and
I
saw
some
responses
and
I
understood
that
the
company
locomotive,
sorry,
the
vocabulary
project
is
using
bootculpin
production.
A
So
we
basically
asked
some
people
to
join
the
meeting
and
what
cobbles
do
you
have?
Who
could
talk
about
this.
C
Yeah,
I
think
I
think
I
can
follow
so
yeah
we
had
in
the
past.
So
I
think
that
the
initially
the
bookkeeper
was
maintained
by
the
by
the
maintainer
of
the
typhoon
project.
I
I
don't
remember
the
name
and
then
the
talos,
the
guys
from
palos,
also
started
using
bootcube,
and
we
had
some
discussions
about
maintaining
it
and
yeah.
C
They
has
been
added
as
a
maintainer,
so
andrew,
for
example,
but
until
then
so
like,
we
didn't
figure
out
the
ci
for
the
for
the
repository
then,
and
since
locomotive
does
not
interact
like
it's
using
the
the
the
boot
group
for
cluster
creation
and
and
for
the
the
check
pointer
for
the
recovery
and
so
on,
but
we
don't
do
much
changes
there.
We
had
only
like
one
feature
request.
C
There
is
like
a
pr
opened
and
I've
done
some
cleanups
but
yeah,
since
there
is
no
active
maintainers
and
we
like
didn't
ask
for
the
for
the
for
the
maintainership
ourselves
yeah,
it's
sort
of
like
a
still
the
lingo
state
yeah.
I
I
keep
refreshed
some
of
the
issues
I
care
about,
but
I
also
don't
have
time
to
to
actually
fix
them.
C
So
yeah
you
suggested
on
slack
that
this
repo
can
be
archived,
and
perhaps
we
can
move
to
the
to
the
fork
in
our
organization
like
at
least
from
my
side.
I
think
that
makes
sense.
I
don't
know
what
do
you
think
yeah.
C
Yeah
exactly
so,
we
would
like
the
hand
three
support
for
it
and
yeah.
There
was
some
discussions,
whether
does
it
make
sense
or
not.
This
change
and
yeah
ever
since
we
used
the
first
version
anyway,.
A
Okay,
I
wanted
to
ask
that
I
know
aaron
levy,
but
he
is
no
longer
active
here.
I
I
think
I
spoke
once
with
triumph
elise,
but
the
these
two
maintainers
they
are
no
longer
active
for
sure
are.
Have
you
seen
them
been
active
recently.
A
Do
you
know
who
is
this
meditator.
D
A
Okay,
so
and
andrew
to
by
the
saying
he
may
have
interest
to
continue
to
be
a
maintainer,
but
his
project
no
longer
uses
boot
cube.
Is
this
correct.
A
Yeah,
hopefully
he
cannot
his
combat
this
will,
but
so
if
we
assume
that
the
first
three
maintainers
have
no
interest-
and
of
course
we
can
ping
them
on
slack
because
to
bind
acidic,
that's
the
only
way
to
contact
these
people
if
they
have
no
objection
to
a
transfer
of
ownership
and
andrew.
If
hundred,
doesn't
have
a
problem
with
that,
we
can
just
move
the
repository
to
your
organization,
but
technically
what
we
can
also
do
is
just
move
the.
A
There's
also
another
program:
this
is
the
disorder.
File
mechanism
is
not
going
to
work
on
your
side
because
your
you're
not
going
to
have
the
kubernetes
ci
anymore.
C
Yeah
but
the
ci
is
not
plaqued
anyway
for
this
repo,
so
it
doesn't
really
matter.
A
A
If
you
want
to
continue
using
this
background,
you're
going
to
have
to
create
a
simple
github
action
or
something
like
that
that
basically
watches
for
lgtm
approve,
but
I'm
just
trying
to
understand
if
somebody
objects
to
this
move
or
because
you're
not
currently
a
maintainer
we're
transferring
ownership
to
you,
I'm
wondering
if
someone
from
this
list
is
going
to
disagree.
D
A
F
B
I
mean
I'd,
say
it's:
it's
not
necessarily
transferring
ownership,
it
is
continuing,
it
is
a
fork
that
is
the
blessed
fork
and
if
someone
else
wants
to
create
another
blessed
fork,
then
you
know
that's
fine
right,
we're
not
we're
not
changing.
B
If
we
archive
this
we're
not
really
changing
the
owners,
so
I
I
can't
imagine
it
being
a
problem,
but
I
think
yes,
we
should
certainly
make
sure
that
they're
all
not
the
the
current
approvers
are
okay
with
with
archiving,
and
I
think-
and
this
is
a
courtesy,
but
I
think
if
they
don't,
if
we
don't
hear
from
them,
I
think
it's
fine
to
proceed.
I
did
have
a
question.
E
A
Yeah
hi
andrew
we're.
Basically
we
were
discussing
potential
transfer
of
bootcamp
to
the
locomotive
fox,
but
since
they
are
not
maintainers
of
the
in
the
owner's
file-
and
you
are,
I
was
wondering
whether
you
have
any
objections
to
that.
A
I
saw
that
you're
no
longer
using
boot
cube
in
your
court.
Okay,.
B
Yes,
so
I
think
yeah,
so
thank
you
andrew
for
for
being
a
maintainer.
It
is
not
always
a.
Thank
you.
Sometimes
the
thankless
task
to
thank
you
for
doing
that.
It
sounds
like
there
are
no
real
objections.
We
can
presumably
create
a
pr
or
something
to
propose
archiving
and
make
sure
that
there
is
no
one
that
steps
up
and
objects,
but
it's
not
like
archiving
is
the
end
it
just.
B
It
just
moves
the
primary
source
of
development
to
somewhere
else
where
it
can
hopefully
get
more
traction
and
live
on
type
thing,
and
so,
if
there's
a
group
that
is
using
it,
then
that
is
that
is
wonderful,
and
you
know
I'm
sure
most
people
are
using
it
in
production
will
be
maintaining
a
fork
anyway,
even
if
that
fork
is
just
just
a
mirror,
so
I
don't,
I
don't
think
it's
gonna
upset
anyone.
B
I
actually
had
one
question
which
is
like
does
bootcube,
do
something
significantly
different
from
kind,
for
example
like
if
I
was
trying
to
figure
out
how
it
launched
kube
api
server
like?
Does
it
run
under
docker?
Or
does
it
run
it
directly
like
is?
Is
it
is
the
need
more
or
less
fulfilled
now
by
kind
or
it
was
just
it's
a
question.
E
I
was
just
going
to
say:
bootcube
is
more
for
self-hosted
kubernetes,
so
it
runs.
It
runs
everything
as
a
deployment
within
kubernetes.
I
don't
know
if
boot
coupe
is,
I
feel,
like
kind
serves
more
of
the
local
development
use
case.
I
don't
know
if
it's
the
fight
comparison.
B
Got
it
I
I
missed
that
I
unders,
I
understand
what
you
mean
now,
yes,
so
that
that
is
the
answer
to
how
it
runs
could
be
api
server.
It
runs
it
in
a
in
a
pod,
there's
actually
there's
a
project
called
cap
n
cluster
api
provider,
nested,
I'm
looking
to
fabrizio
here
to
see
which
is
doing
something
similar.
B
So
it
might
be
that
that
we
should
ping
them
as
well
for
overlap.
But
that
is
that's
good
to
know.
It
makes
a
ton
of
sense.
So
thank
you
and
yes,
it.
C
Yeah,
so
the
way
it
works
is
just.
It
drops
like
pretty
fine
like
pod,
manifest
to
the
the
directory,
and
then
it
applies.
Some
other
predefined
manifests
to
the
to
the
credit
cluster,
and
then
it
shuts
down
the
temporary
control
thing
and
that's
of
the
magic.
C
B
I
guess,
send
a
pr
to
just
notify
people
that
we
intend
to
arc
archive
it
and,
oh,
I
see
your
hand
for
two
and
then
we
will
just
like
time
out
a
certain
amount
of
time,
we'll
archive
it
and
it
sounds
like
was
it
locomotive
is
going
to
maintain
a
a
fork
which
we
will
point
people
to
as,
like
the
the
new
recommended
place
to
continue
development
of
food
cube
for
people
that
want
to
and
for
brits
here
you
have
a
hand
up.
F
Yeah,
it's
just
a
norton
cup
nested.
Is
that
okay,
technically
it
is
running,
let's
say
kubernetes,
which
is
the
same
of
what
cube.
But
the
problem
that
this
is
solving
is
different,
because
kappa
n
base
white
bot
cube
basically
take
care
of
a
single
cluster
cap
and,
basically
is
a
pro,
is
a
way
to
address
multi-tenancy.
F
B
Different,
yes,
it
makes
sense.
Lumir
you
dropped,
so
I
somehow
became
the
host
and
I
started
the
recording,
I
guess
to
the
cloud,
so
he
might
have
to
do
some
advanced
video
editing
afterwards,
but
it
sounds
like.
A
Yeah,
honestly,
it's
not
worth
it
it's
complicated
to
do
that,
I
think
so
we
buy.
We
lost
the
recording
in
a
way
in
my
book.
Okay,
in
that
case,
I'm
happy
that
we
have
consensus
about
the
decision
to
move
boot
cube.
I
just
wanted
to
ask
you:
can
you
give
me
like
a
link
to
the
existing
fork
that
you
have
in
the
zoom
chat,
because
later
today
I
can
prepare
the
archive
proposal.
A
All
right,
do
you
want
to
preserve
this?
So
can
you
tell
me
what
is
the
king
vogue?
Is
it
or
organization,
or
is
it
a
personal
account.
A
Oh
okay,
I
see
so
later
today,
I'm
going
to
file
an
issue
in
the
kubernetes
org
repository
where
some
of
our
github
maintainers
are
going
to
proceed
with
archival
and
what
we
can
do
is
we
can
link
the
existing
repository
to
your
fork.
So
people
who
are
interested
in
youtube
can
follow
to
your
fork
and
they
we
can.
You
can
proceed
maintaining
it
there.
Another
question
that
I
have
is
what
about
the
slack
channel,
because
normally
when
we
remove
a
repository,
we
have
to
remove
the
select
channel.
A
I'm
not
sure
I
can
ask,
but
do
you
want
to
preserve
the
channel,
so
we
have.
C
A
channel
for
locomotive
on
community
stack,
so
maybe
we
can
just
redirect
people
there.
What
do
you
think
so
yeah?
Because
I
think
locomotive
is
the
the
the
only
main
user
of
that
so.
B
Sorry,
I
I
don't
think
I
I
think
there
are,
I
think,
for
example,
there's
I
think,
there's
a
gke
channel.
I
don't
think,
there's
a.
I
don't
think
the
two
are
necessarily
linked,
so
I
don't
think
we
need
to
block.
I
don't
think
we
need
to
link
the
two
like
we
can
keep
the
bootcube
channel
alive
for
us,
like
I'm
sure
some
people
will
have
questions
when
they
see
it
gets
archived.
A
Okay,
I'm
going
to
ask
the
slack
administrators
if
they
go
up.
If
there
is
a
link
or
not,
I
I
think
just
you're
correct,
basically,
there's
only
yeah
okay!
So
do
we
have
anything
else
on
this
topic?
Sorry,
I
dropped
them
in
between
the
conversation.
A
C
A
Bye-Bye
all
right
do
we
have
any
more
topics
for
today.
B
A
All
right
a
bit,
I
can
write
a
quick
q
by
the
ab
update
and
present
it
to
the
call
as
well
are
very
happy
with
the
amount
of
work
we
did
with
for
cube,
adm
v1
beta
3
and
we
managed
to
add
a
lot
of
features
and
deplete
some
old
features
in
this
new
api
version
and
also
we
added
a
rootless
control
plate
feature
which
is
alphabet
behind
the
cubed
ident
feature
gate,
and
we
are
very
happy
about
that
as
well.
A
We
will
see
how
it
goes
after
some
user
feedback,
potentially
in
the
123
cycle.
We
may
see
some
complaints
that
it
doesn't
work
on
some
linux
distros
or
something
like
that.
So,
hopefully
we
can
address
some
of
these
issues
during
this
alpha
period
and
if,
if
we
are
happy
with
the
state,
we
are
going
to
graduate
to
beta
eventually,
which
may
happen
in
the
one
release
from
now.
A
It's
not
clear
but
yeah.
That's
that's
pretty
much
the
state
for
brito.
We
also
discussed
sorry
going
back
to
the
group
topics.
We
discussed
moving
this
meeting
to
one
hour
later,
like
you
used
to
be
before,
because
we
are
not
seeing
a
lot
of
participation
in
this
time.
Slot.
F
A
If
you
saw
it,
you
can
vote,
I'm
not
sure
how
many
people
have
bought
it,
but
basically
we're
connecting
votes-
and
potentially
I
mean
I
can
see-
was
closing
the
the
doodle
at
the
end
of
next
week
or
something
like
that.
So
hopefully
we
can
make
a
decision.
A
Do
we
have
anything
about
the
sub
projects
that
you
want
to?
You
want
to
discuss
today
or
any
other
topics.
A
All
right,
so
I'm
going
to
write
some
notes.
I
think
I
have
the
partial
recording
on
disk,
but
I'm
going
to
I
mean
maybe
I
should
upload
it
it.
It
was
very
abruptly
interrupted
with
my
somebody
is
playing
with
the
power
switches
in
my
area
for
some
reason
and
I'm
losing
power
all
the
time.
B
A
I
I
mean
I
have
fff
mpg
local
and
maybe
I
can
splice
it
with
that.
If
you
can
upload
it
to
a
google
drive
somewhere,
I
can
try
to
download
it
and
see.