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[SIG ContribEx] Weekly Marketing Meeting for 20220311

A

Hi everyone uh welcome to the uh marketing council weekly meeting. uh We abide by the cncf code of conduct and this will be posted to you soon. So, if you don't want anything uh to get recorded, uh I don't say it and nice to everyone. So, let's just begin so. First item for updates and big ones is the pr from last week.

A

I think this needs to get approved uh but yeah, I I think the uh reviewers and I think it will be getting approved and if anyone has reviewing your like, you could just you know, go and try approving it. Oh.

B

Oh, oh, but like I'm, gonna prove it now.

A

Yes, yeah, I think uh like just go through it, because we have gone through it uh since, like last one two weeks and tim has also reviewed the few nitpicks that were remaining and it's good to go.

B

Yeah, if, if tim reviewed it and that's fixed, yeah, that's probably very safe to merge just to let the folks know. Tim is like the sick, docs guru, if you're not familiar with tim bannister, also ray, of course, who's here. Yeah.

C

Tim knows way more.

D

C

D

B

Yeah, that's cool. uh Let me go ahead and do that so yeah and you don't have to wait to the meeting to like poke me if someone's sitting around like seriously.

A

uh So let if anyone has any other big wins or updates to give or we can move it to the campaigns in progress.

A

Okay uh cool, so let's move to the campaign in progress.

A

This again comes from the last week's thing: the michelin aurelius blog post uh so from the last creative notes that I could see is the array volume to review it and caslin had to bring michelle about the blockchain not present yeah.

C

I reviewed it and um okay looks like there are some things that have changed all right. I made some comments about in general, um looks like they have been uh this blog and now bart accepted some of the co, uh some of the suggested changes and and close off some of the other things. I've noted here um like a new employer or it's, uh it stated a previous employer as a kernel, so that needed the update. um So it looks like everything on my side looks good.

C

Let's see I'll, see a comment from bart's actually yeah that sounds good. um Yeah, everything's good on my side,.

A

A

Or we need to make some changes according next thing, we need to get response from michelle.

C

I did we need to get confirmation from from michelle uh about this blog post going up a year later. um I don't remember what that or I remember that she was gonna be michelle, was gonna, be contacted.

A

I don't know yes, yes, uh uh the last notes I think castle and uh or not also uh bob also volunteered about that.

A

Yeah so anything else in campaigns in progress or regarding this case sorry.

B

No, I I was just going to say I have. I don't have any message traffic on it. I thought I did. But all I have is the g drive comments and such oh, I was not cc'd on the email.

B

A

uh So I I'll uh acquired me with this and I'll talk to castle so new items- yes, uh so this this came yesterday or uh day before yesterday uh regarding uh the cadence release, cadden survey, that is out and uh we need to send cons regarding it. So this also has a quick vr to get approved and it's like what broadcast is to be done so uh yeah. I had a question here. I don't know how to do slack broadcast. I tried oh.

B

That's a good question: yes, you it that you do like slash and slack, and you should see what apps you have access to, because the announcement is controlled and I do believe I put you on the list.

B

um Okay, if you, if you hit slash and you don't see it in that list- that pops up in slack, let me know I can fix it.

A

Oh okay, hi, okay! Is this the announcement part yep.

B

The one and only you hit that and then you hit post message and it's going to ask you what you want to type what channels you want to put it in and then you ship it.

A

Okay, okay, then I'll get it done by today. Thanks for that,.

A

Yes, that tweet uh needs to get marched. Okay,.

B

I'll do that.

A

Right yeah, so that was the update regarding this. Also, uh I think uh um of english. You are remembering, I think you had one more uh thing in the new items regarding the comps for a community meeting this month. Any updates- or you want to have some guests among that yeah.

E

So I have added a point in the uh updates and begins. I was looking for the link, so we have a blog written by nigel and it needs to be reviewed.

E

So if, if anybody wants to help with that, we'll be happy to just go, go on with it and about the new role, uh I'm not getting response from paris, I think she's quite busy. So uh it's still on hold as soon as I get a response from her I'll just go for the rule, I'll document it somewhere yeah.

A

Yeah yeah yeah cool. Actually, uh what paris suggested in that other meeting regarding this role is: uh let's continue doing it for one or two months, so you get an idea about what she is doing and how you could help her and then document every work so every month there is something that is coming up, that we need to talk, because there is already a uh documented seat which says what needs to be done for community meeting. I think most of that will stay uh in that document, for the role.

A

Also any additional things like paris said. Just you know, sending out uh messages just uh half an hour before the meeting happens so that everyone uh gets it and joined, because that's what paris did last meeting and it it really impacted so, but this kind of things should be noted down in detail like if anyone has anything else to say.

A

Okay cool then, so uh this blog need review. I could see. Laura has already reviewed it. A few bits and.

A

Also, I guess paris suggested to get it done in points or something is that done like. I could think.

E

um I don't have any update from niger about it. Yeah paris did something, but the prop, uh I think nigel was having problem with the uh that he was. He wasn't getting the link for the um recording. So uh maybe I should re-contact him and tell him that we have got the link and then he can just do another. Try on it.

F

Yeah, actually, there was a thread regarding uh the community meeting recording and I posted the link that actually uh it should.

D

F

Talk with nigel once.

D

Okay, sound square, then.

A

uh Okay, so uh also, I remember from the last meetings uh there was discussion on the twitter bot like contributor tweets any updates from anyone regarding that how it is going or, uh as bob suggested in the buy between weight of mass meeting, and he gets bob suggested. uh There's someone working from the react side of it. So if anyone has updates regarding that.

F

uh There's currently, no no updates till now, but uh I asked jason about the twitter thing. If he would he if he would be able to work on the issue, he said that I will try to work on it, but at that time I think someone else made a pr, a direct pr for fixing some of the issues. So it's still there, the owner of the repository, needs to do something related to it. He needs to maybe check review.

F

So that's that, but nothing more currently.

F

Twitter, together, yeah.

D

A

F

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F

There's a there's, a pr hanging by matt yeah, there's a pr by matt on the twitter together uh the whole issue, but uh it's just it's just currently parsing through the it's just appear about passing through the twitter threads and something like that. He said he would also be working on the issue.

F

So we just have to wait.

F

B

So matt has a pr, that's open, yep and he's. He said he was gonna close it or, like finish it.

F

He said I've just added the parsing bit just now, but I will get to work on if I get to work on it I'll. Do it. Okay,.

B

Cool, I didn't know he.

D

B

Able to do stuff.

A

Oh, it's not I'm not it's someone else from outside! Oh.

B

Another man, okay, never mind.

A

F

Yeah, I'm talking about uh the other person matt cawley. If I pronounced.

C

A

Okay: okay, that's also a good progress because uh there was no pr uh beforehand.

F

But now the day the day we discussed about it in the meeting there was a pr by matt yeah.

F

It is pretty famous, let's say.

D

Okay, good, uh so I can.

A

Anything else we could like fiscals or anything else. Anyone has some agenda that we left like. Let's check the project for otherwise.

F

Oh actually, there's one more thing in the updates uh begins. uh So this week, like in the past week, uh we published a couple of recordings like uh usually like it is more than what we used to publish. Usually so there were other backlog recordings of sig network uh like pending from november 2021, so those all were published and also the community meeting of february 2022 was also published and paris actually uploaded all those videos. uh She found it from the zoom cloud or somewhere else, and she uploaded it to youtube.

F

And after that I published them.

B

For many zombies.

A

Yeah thanks for doing all this, it's a lot of work goes unnoticed, but it is very much important for the community.

D

D

Just check the board.

B

So hina, hopefully you will be able to be like here's the board, and this is what we need to talk about today and you can help us keep that flow going. That's the goal.

G

That's exactly usually observe in the beginning and then start crafting the. hmm How can we, how can how would I see this in in a way, so I'm in a moving mode, but these kinds of nuggets, if you have them just, let me know so, I can think about them as we continue the meeting and like okay. So how could we present this with minimal effort and facilities.

B

Yeah the boards are, we had two at one point now we have one. So that's a good thing, trust me um and that one is: does anybody have it real quick? I got.

D

It yeah it's the article articles.

A

So I could see one uh the third party security audit, one uh like closed assigned to rey and british.

C

I'm still working on that. um I actually haven't technically started yet, but we'll work on. uh I wanted. I wanted out before the end of march, so.

G

C

I'm definitely working on it. Yeah.

G

C

Next week,.

A

uh So I think that that's the only update from the board arrest- I, I am still waiting for the annual report- part uh that paris asked me to review, but the steering hasn't started with that. Yet and.

D

Yes, that's it. We don't have anything else in the board. That needs to be discussed.

B

That's cool nothing wrong with that.

A

Yeah, so I think uh the mission neuralis I will talk with jasmine and I'll get it done. This way find how many major parties and the good vr, I think, wow that's fun.

B

Yeah ping me: if you need approval throughout the week, folks, like don't wait till friday, please, yes, yes, I can hit approve from my phone in the middle of nowhere.

A

So really I haven't died. I have approved a lot of people, especially the tweets.

B

The tweets oh yeah, like that's 90 of the time, that's me on my phone.

B

Cool anything else, folks, anything.

A

Yeah or anyone we missed, who is new to this meeting, would introduce what I see for familiar.

A

F

Man, this formatting thing doesn't work for me. It gets yeah.

A

Yeah, I I I saw this one- give it back done so, yes, so the the basic update is it's on the board. I saw the board and check that.

A

So uh there is an issue for the annual report uh for the c contracts, part that will be done by our chairs and tickets and we have given our updates on that aparri system we can see has added that, but uh the major part is us helping with comms once the blog post is out and the reviews, once the sharing puts it to also ray suggested last time that some dogs folks are interested. So it's like combined work, I think majorly.

A

The review part lies with the talks folks and uh we help with the calm spots yeah. We have to still wait until that is out or until the uh first draft is ready for the annual community report.

F

Okay, so so how this process works means? Do the folks reach out to every sig and ask if they want anything they need to put on the block, or something else happens while getting the annual report.

A

Yeah, so there is a format like it is not if they want to get it it is they should okay. It's like uh there is a particular format of issues and there are check boxes that this is uh and uh basically sig leads and uh the basically the chairs and leads, I think, the chairs. Basically they uh there is a issue. Formatting contracts to open up those issues, fill out uh the not tissue section that are pr's yeah. Those pr's are open.

A

They fill out uh the details in that and then those are taken by steering and they draft it and someone like uh last time, someone from cncf helped like celeste help with uh the final drafts editing after the steering put everything in place, and then uh after the like.

A

This is the process steering first, uh there is a date given to every uh leadership of the sinks to come up with the details, what they have actually, what they've done in what places they need help that that is a whole format that is available to open in pr and uh community before and then those are collected by steering and they uh you know they go through those and they draft a initial draft and the person reviews the whole thing and then again it goes to hearing and it gets approved and the pr is balanced.

A

So after that yeah our work starts like last year, we did with help on traditions.

G

A

And all those things, but I am also not sure about how the automation thing works with the pr I have to go see if you know anyone here knows about it,.

B

So josh probably knows too.

F

What happened was yesterday? I happened to be on a q builders meeting, but they they had an issue. They said that we want to bring in new contributors for that, what we need to ex what they need to do they for trying to bring in new contributors.

F

So I told them that I could discuss in the marketing meeting what we can do to help bring in new contributors. So maybe the annual report can help them doing that or the deadline is over or something like that we can tweet about it. There's an option about that that we see queue. Builders is or this sub project is looking for. New contributors.

A

Yeah, we could absolutely do that feel free if they want help. I think at present yeah. We don't have to wait for the annual report to come out or something it's just our work. We could communicate.

B

Yeah, exactly just we, we communicated, we needed a project person and look who showed up. Yes, you know right, like yeah, it happens so yeah. If they're, just looking for new contributors that have experience with x, we can tweet that, like multiple times, we could build a campaign around it if they really wanted us to okay.

F

They just they said that their meeting is kind of getting very less folks means the attendees are very low. Maybe two or three one of the folks said that so they need some kind of uh what we can say social word out and that we are present. We need new contributors, so.

B

That was cube builder right.

F

Cube builder, the the there's a bi-weekly meeting of two or three sub projects together.

F

Cube builder controller and time.

A

It comes under, what's it builder, yeah.

F

A

With you know, getting the word out.

F

Okay, so so maybe we can first uh they they have. Particularly. They said that if you can do any help, you go on ahead. So uh can we do a tweet I'll draft it to it.

B

Draft a few of them- and we can like say, do one monday at nine wednesday at noon. Right like we could do a couple. You know three or four if they want right. So remember the like timing of the tweet matters. So you know I check them at 9am.

B

uh You know, but you can actually just put them on hold and just say hold until x and I'll figure out how to set reminders or whatever.

F

Okay, then I'll do that yeah.

B

Cause it's gonna take more than one tweet. I think, especially if it's a multi-project meeting, I don't know if that's helping them like in the long run like that, might be something to ask paris right like if a sig is doing um like multiple different projects. In one meeting, I feel like that's, not a good thing right, like there's a reason we have contributes and we have threads of like departments for lack of a better term if there's like q builder, some controller x and like they're slightly related, but not sharing a code base.

B

That probably is going to lead to like less attendance in general. So.

F

B

I would be happy to talk to them. You know feel free to tell them right. You know, chris is curious about your meeting structure. You know and would be happy to talk to you about it.

D

A

Yeah also, I I what I would suggest is but start with reading the contributes. I think a lot of folks in the contracts could be able to help us like paris and josh bob they they would be able to. You know, see through it because there's a problem that exists with some like last time. It happened with storage, we helped them with tweets and they got a lot of contributors after that, the kpmg thing and all those that's working good now so yeah, it's all for attending their meeting. Getting it noticed.

B

So, like also they're, not in dev stats they're, not in the calendar, the cnc yeah.

F

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F

Is the issue about their not having themselves in the calendar? They asked me to do what they can.

B

uh I can help with that.

B

I just need to know when the meeting is and the you know the cadence and all that stuff yeah so have them reach out to me how about that and then I can help them like you can do your tweet thing and I can help them with all the logistics through the ambassador channels and we'll just work that way, yep so yeah. I mean first ticket basis at this point.

B

She knows: I'm not gonna open a ticket unless I have the full details, I'm like. Oh, it's that easy. Okay, thanks.

D

A

So a lot of discussions, any more updates for anything. We left why anyone wants to start a discussion.

A

Okay, well, I guess we are like we covered our pretty first. I think I am moving a bit first.

B

But yeah half hour meetings are good meetings, especially if you get stuffed.

A

Yes, uh so a lot of action items are to take from I, actually I'm not a good, I'm not that good at nothing, and I just remember now we didn't have a note taker today and I also didn't do it. I think uh sorry for that, but yeah. I think uh I probably.

B

Should start instinctively whoops yeah.

H

B

Seriously my bad.

D

A

B

I'm looking at the cube builder stuff, it yeah it's confusing.

B

Confuse users, it's better.

A

F

I'll tell them to reach out to chris um and.

G

F

On the tweet thing, or maybe I'll make them make a tweet pr themselves. That would be great. That's awesome. I.

B

Mean yeah, you could totally point them at it right like the issue templates right there, it's you can point them.

G

B

Link like yeah do this yourself, there's some minor bugs right now, but you can do this yourself.

B

Okay, yeah: let's enable people to do the work and like if they want to establish a campaign like give us the first tweet and we'll create three more from there kind of thing right.

B

Yeah have yeah, just whatever you feel is the best. I think I think personally, it would be good to do a campaign of tweets, but they might not want to. They might just want to do their one tweet and be done with it too. Who knows so offer it up to them right, like you know, hey, you can totally make use of this tool whenever you feel like it and if you need to like.

G

Put it on hold.

B

Or whatever feel, free or off, if they're, like? Oh that's, cool yeah, we'll do that if they're hesitant, then you can offer hey, we can do a campaign for you just you know. What do you need kind of thing but yeah? I I need to talk to them about like when their meeting is get it in the calendar.

B

That kind of stuff like yeah, okay,.

B

Easy enough I'll I'll take the note action item to do that.

F

Helping them to you I'll mention, you are working on the calendar thing and I'll tell them that you would be the right person to reach out to now for the making the calendar thing, work and more things about camping and thing.

B

Yeah, that's cool that works.

D

Okay, so I guess we started chart from.

A

Hey hi welcome to the meeting. I guess it's your first meeting yeah welcome to cuban case community as a mentee. uh Thank you. We hope you have a good time in this yeah.

I

Yeah I really enjoyed that. It was my first ever community meeting and I just want to see how things are so yeah, I'm really enjoying it, and thank you like to give me a plate form so that I can improve my skills.

A

Good uh you could join, you could take things also yeah thanks for walking with the community happening yeah, I guess that's it. ah Anyone else has anything on. Gentile could wrap up weekend friday, early meeting.

B

Let's do it y'all be happy, raise the sunshine.

A

Yeah cool, so I guess we don't have anything else to discuss. Let me just stop recording.