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[SIG ContribEx] KCSEU 2022 Planning for 20220502

A

We're off to our, I think, second, to last two weeks off to continue summit eu thanks for all being here, um please be excellent to each other. If you get to the code of conduct and nigel, you can kick it off. I think you need to leave early right.

B

Yeah so, uh as we talked about last time, we were gonna plan to have uh an issue in github that people can respond to for the unconference and suggesting and submitting topics, and so I made a draft for that and I just wanted to share that with you all it's in the summit uh staff channel. I can't share my screen right now, but that's I took a screenshot of it and copied the text of what it looks like right now and I wanted to see if there were any notes.

B

Otherwise I will submit that and then we can make some plan to publicize it so that folks can start submitting and voting on topics. That's good.

C

Cool, do I have sound here.

B

Yeah, yes, okay,.

C

That having issues uh so that sounds good. That's one item for know before you go.

C

C

um uh So we'll need to get the rest done, a lot of which are on my plate, um some of which, because there isn't anybody else. So we don't have a point person for meet and greet so I'm just going to need to try to run it.

D

When is it, forgive me for forgetting.

C

Friday, lunch, oh damn it.

D

Sorry can't help yeah.

C

It's actually more, it's it's honestly, it's more the prep part right. um The.

C

The actual event uh me and deb can cover I just haven't. I mean the reason why nothing went out about the sig meet and greet last week is because I had too many other things to do, including several other things going out to kubernetes community um the um so um so we'll just have to wrap that in the know before you go um as well as send something directly to leads.

C

um I actually want to prep a um a slack blast.

C

Which would cover.

A

C

Six both meet and greet and remind them about signing up for sig meetings if they want sig meetings.

B

Yeah, so when um you said the meet and greet was on friday, but so friday, like after q, count starts right like the 21st or whatever. That day is and not the friday before, okay, because I think that was some confusion and what uh nancy was saying when asked about helping with it, uh because she was saying she was gonna, get there until saturday, which maybe josh you don't have to do it all on your own. um If we can get that clarified,.

C

Yeah no, I was asking nancy.

B

C

For for you know, I asked nancy about it, but I specifically said um help in advance the um I didn't see a response from her, though.

B

D

She responded, I saw it, I can find it.

B

Yeah- and I I think that was.

E

B

Okay, so I I think, maybe if we can tie that loop up, you might not have to do it all you're on your own, I'm hesitant to volunteer, because I have a talk on friday, um but yeah do we have any other sort of communication going out that we can send out the unconference thing.

C

Well, I would go in the in the whole: well, can we send a tweet out or something.

E

I'm gonna put the doc to where we're tracking all of our comms into the chat and I'll put it into the notes. There is a list of all of the things that we are targeting, there's tweets. There's we have a list of 42 tweets that we're working on in preparation for kubecon. That includes sig, meet and greet contributor summit everything. So, but if we're missing something I know there had been an ask to promote one of the colos specifically, so if there any other tweets, just let us know and we'll fit them into the schedule.

B

E

A

Hoping to get something.

B

Out in the next couple days so that we can start getting topics in and if that's not doable, that's totally fine I'll start like publicizing. You know, at least like the folks that I know of, and maybe there's some some way that folks can find out that we need their topic missions.

E

Yeah we can do that whenever you're ready. um We have a link. If you want to try writing it yourself or just give us whatever information you need to have included on there and we can write it for you.

A

You want to link that issue, then.

B

Or yeah I just submitted the issue, so I will grab a link. 6633 is the number of it.

B

B

And then, where is the draft uh tool or form.

E

I'll grab the link.

E

If you create your issue here, you can write the tweet text directly into the issue and it'll create the pr for you.

B

Awesome perfect: I will work on that uh in a bit um but yeah. It sounds good everybody's good. For that, then I'm gonna chat and see you all in two weeks.

D

B

Is very helpful, yeah yeah we'll do all right.

A

So we have the issue: we'll have a tweet, we'll add it to the email to the no before you go email, that's the pre-event email there right.

A

A

So josh you wanted to add, then both meet and greet and seek meetings to to that email right.

C

Yeah we just we have a whole checklist of items. I also need to do um hold on.

C

um The um um because I also need to do so, we need a meet and greet sign up which I'm gonna have to prepare um the, um um and um we want to remind people about sig meetings.

C

I want to go ahead and prepare a sort of social sign up thing to get better signal, and mostly what this is going to be doing is.

C

Asking people what their likely travel options are, so we can get an idea of numbers um or you know, and then effectively directing them to resources. Oh and then asking them if they're going to want to bring a plus one without promising that we're going to be able to accept plus ones, because that's going to be capacity based the um so.

C

So so, and we'll want that to also be in there as well as um having been elsewhere. So the.

C

All right yeah, we all need to register as staff.

A

Yeah, I think I did I need to check. To be honest, I think I tried it out very early on.

C

C

C

So yeah so most of us apparently not signed up so yeah, so we need sort of all of those things and I need to also add them to the web page for the event.

A

All right, I.

C

Got I got some stuff in last week. I just ran out of time to put in all of the stuff.

C

C

Hold on, let's link that to the notes.

E

How can I find out what sig meetings are scheduled.

C

Yeah hold on, I think.

A

We have a sheet- let's let me find it sign up sheet down there.

C

I mean we have a bunch signed up. um I need to.

A

C

Yeah, I need to talk.

A

C

Yeah, I need to talk to damian about why he can't take one of the available slots.

C

C

But we've got ci signal and data protection, working group and tentatively sig release.

C

C

Now somebody remind me here so for this particular contributor summit. We have the big room.

A

C

And we have three meeting rooms, one of which belongs to docs yeah.

A

We could give to the other two to six meetings, so we could do two tracks of six meetings at the same time, if you're not.

B

A

One of the rooms for like smaller unconference sessions.

C

Well, I think that was kind of the idea was to have to have an opportunity to have two concurrent unconference sessions, but then it's also worth asking um sig in in structured logging. um What their timing issue is so that just went in there.

C

So I will ask them what their timing issue is um and and work something out and and yeah. They might go into the second meeting room and then that becomes not available for unconference.

A

I mean there's as long as one session then we can.

C

A

Work around that.

C

Yeah- and that was why I did the whole meetings that need a time slot thing, because I thought we might end up doing that, because the thing is, we don't have that many time slots yeah. So it's like well. This is gonna conflict with other stuff, um so um the.

C

F

I just dropped a link in the chat um that was the sign up sheet I made originally, it looks like the link changed, but it tells you the capacity and if there's a v or not in there,.

A

All right, yeah.

C

Oh hey deb since you're on what what is our actual capacity for the social.

F

um Higher than we're gonna hit, okay.

C

F

I don't know off the top of my head, but I can tell you uh after this I I didn't.

C

Mean I didn't mean venue capacity. I was thinking more budget honestly.

F

Oh still, probably higher. um Let me pull and check for you, but I won't know till after this meeting.

C

Okay, yeah, I know it's just a question of of whether or not we want to allow plus one. This is going to be based partly on you know what we expect in that direction, so got it. Okay,.

A

I remember correctly, this venue was the the all in all a bit cheaper venue, also right.

C

Yes, which is why we cheaper and more flexible, which is why we picked it.

F

And I think it's going to be more fun.

D

A

So we had 93 registrations approved plus 13, pending.

C

C

The um it's pretty, I don't have you know a sort of, because we didn't basically didn't ended up, not registering people.

C

I don't know how that matches up with l.a.

A

Yeah, you only had registrations for the social right.

C

You have only registrations for the social deb. Do you remember how many registrations we had for the social for la no, but give me a minute. I can pull it okay, um because the problem is that we don't. Basically we don't have a comparable here, because um we didn't register people during the day, for los angeles and prior to that, you know we were having new contributor workshop, which really stilted the sort of registration numbers.

C

So we really don't know what that 93 means in terms of the number of people who will actually show up we'll find out.

A

Distribution over the day will also be interesting. I guess yeah.

C

um What should be our deadline for making decisions on the pending people.

C

And, depending on.

D

Where you're traveling, I would say when are you traveling and, like that's probably gonna,.

C

So yeah, if we need to message people it has to happen before then.

A

Right- and we said in general, we take registrations up till the friday before last time. If I remember correcting.

C

F

Yeah, that's typically what we've done.

C

F

Chat josh but 67 registered for la.

C

Okay, it's already higher than l.a.

C

E

Didn't someone volunteer during our last meeting to do the final check.

A

Yeah, I think our notes that he can do it uh before he leaves, I think, because he's leaving on saturday.

C

A

So that would include, then, maybe of uh okay, adding people from the wait. That's right about.

C

Yeah, okay, but we should he- and I should go through before this week and actually do some triage on the people on the waitlist yeah.

E

C

They're, not all equal, I can't I mean some people are there and they're, just like they're, enthusiastic and haven't, contributed to kubernetes yet um and there's some other things like there's one in particular, who appears to have given an incorrect github id and is not responding to messages and- and I think that person's not going to get cleared to attend regardless.

C

For that reason, the um so um the um yeah so.

C

Yeah, so he and I should go over the wait list and look at you know if we're assuming that we have capacity. So what I mean we were targeting like 100 for this thing, weren't we, I think so.

A

Right, that's also the room.

F

Originally, it was 50., that's obviously changed yeah, so the room is set for. I want to say 180, because it's 90 in theater and 90 in round tables, half and half.

C

Yep and the side rooms are much smaller right, yeah like meeting rooms, yep the um so I mean you know the mind you always to keep up. Is we won't get 100 turnout and even if we do people about half our attendees tend to spend most of the day standing around and talk.

C

So um as long as we have room for them to stand around and talk the um um the, but it does sound like we may not be accepting anybody from the waitlist.

C

Now I would say.

A

C

We go over 100 registrations, which looks fairly likely at this point that that pen we may tell pending waitlist no.

F

So right now, 88 folks have said they plan to attend the unconference format during the day on the 16th and then.

C

Oh okay, so so 94.

F

Have said yes to the reception.

A

Okay, that's a higher percentage than the other guess.

C

G

uh You know the um it's free to check a box, so those numbers.

A

B

A

G

A

They will arrive at, like, I, don't know, noon for lunch and then leave out.

C

Well, and for that matter you know I'll point out, our main loss of attendees is to other day day. You know other monday, events yeah.

A

C

More than anything else, so the um uh okay! So if we're only at 80 for the day, then we might still be accepting the weightless folks.

F

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C

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C

The um okay, but in other words we don't know if we're accepting the weightless folks or not, we could we could see numbers where it doesn't. It's not a reasonable thing to do.

C

Okay, um where are we.

A

And we we, we might get more restorations with like sick meetings, filling up and stuff right.

C

A

Not sure if all the attendees in that list already signed up.

A

Yeah but then we're good on on attendees. I think.

C

C

One thing I actually is deb is um because of circumstances. It would be good next week, if it's possible- and I understand the event staff- have a ton of stuff to do- to reconcile the registrations, particularly against um anybody who um converted their registration to an online registration.

C

I don't know if that's a thing, that's happening right now,.

F

So we check it against cubecon registrations to make sure they're actually registered for kubecon, because it has to be printed for badge yeah um and so far three folks were not so we reached out to them and told them if you registered with another email, tell us what it is. If not remember, this is requirement. Okay, um so we'll find it in that process process. But so far we haven't seen anything like that. Okay,.

C

C

Yeah, I mean a lot of it where it's a little bit more challenging is the um is speakers right because a lot of people who would be coming to contribute to some are speakers, and I'm still seeing speakers change their decision about in-person versus remote, um the um and because their registration is free and covers both. They don't necessarily need to do anything.

C

Registration-Wise.

C

F

We updated in the cubecon system.

F

Yeah, okay, so yeah, because we have to have those numbers correct um right for cubecom2.

F

So as people make the switch back and forth and up and down whatever people, do um we keep that all updated in cubecon reg.

C

Okay, um okay,.

C

C

Okay, chris, you have more questions about the um pre-event email other than the fact that we need a bunch of this online stuff before it can be finished.

A

Chris had to oh.

C

E

All right was that a question about comms, though.

C

Yes, it was a question about comments, the pre-event email and basically.

E

News about the pre-event.

C

Email is there's a bunch of materials for it that link to things that need to go online and are not up yet. Okay, um the um uh and the.

C

Which would include the meet and greet sign up sheet the event plus one and other random stuff sheet, um the uh social plus one another random stuff sheet, um and probably some updates to the website, um to the extent that anybody has any time to help with any of that.

C

um That would be awesome, um but.

A

Yeah I'll have some time this week: okay, a bit more free this week, then next.

C

Okay, yeah. We probably need to get all those filled in either today or tomorrow, because comms, I guess.

A

C

To put all this together yeah, I also.

A

Just realized I need to at least have the links.

C

Yeah, probably we can do the updates to the to the site last, because those just need to be up before the message goes out, but we need to have links for the other things.

E

Yeah, once we have all of those things we can put them into the note before you go email and uh also the tweets that we're gonna send out reminding about these things.

A

Yeah we'll be able to reuse it and also for the site. Yes, verbiage could be very similar there yeah.

C

C

More calm, stuff, caslin.

E

Yeah, you want me to just kind of go through the list yeah, so we have.

C

A good sense of what.

E

We're doing I can do that, um so I'm going through the list that I sent out earlier. Should I put the link in the doc again or people have it it's right. There learn it. Okay, it's linked.

E

It's also in the notes. um So the first section is emails. um We sent out the email about the mask requirement update from last week. Already um then, the next one we have on here that's important is the pre-event. Now before you go that we've been talking about, there are any emails in between there. um We can also make sure that that goes out in honor.

C

Yeah, I don't think I don't think so. I don't think there's any emails in between there just because no before you go is going out on next monday, right yeah, so ideally it doesn't make. It doesn't make sense to me at least to separately email, something whose content is going to be in the know. Before you go, I can see sort of putting some stuff on slack. Like I said the stuff, that's specifically addressing cigs. I want a slack blast for we.

E

Previously had a separate social event, social and event, information.

C

Yeah beforehand, but but that's that's kind of changed shape and I think it should just be in the know before you go and on the website and on slack in the um summit channel.

E

And we do have a draft of the no before you go email in the link, if you click that link and go to the bottom of it, um it's got the event details the evening celebration, details, vaccine verification, information which might need some updates. I'm not sure how to let us know how to cancel how to. Let us know that you, if you need to cancel um where to ask questions, so that's got a good base for us to go off of and then just these other materials that we want to put in. You.

A

Can add the on-conference stuff to that too right.

E

Yes, that's a good point to put a comment for myself: yeah.

C

Oh wait: actually you know what there is one thing, because I'm looking at what we've done before there's one email that would go out potentially before which is for meet and greet.

A

Okay, separate meet and greet.

C

Yeah separate meet and greet because for one thing it happens kind of separately. Yes, um since it's on friday and not on monday um and.

A

C

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C

Yeah, as well as k, devs.

C

So and and like I said, I want that lumped together also with the sig meetings to to go into a multi-channel slack blast, because we should.

A

Be in the meeting also lump the two together josh in which should we also lump the email together, sick meet and greet and sick meetings.

C

No because I've already sent out an email about sick meetings.

A

Okay: okay, good, that's good!.

E

So what all needs to go out in the sig meet and greet email? Do we need to wait for some of those forms.

C

You need to wait for the forms and then pretty much. What's in the email updated for today, okay,.

E

Sounds good and I also have a note in the tweets section which we'll get to about the slack bot blast um I'll, come back to that. That's, okay, uh so segment, greed, email, we're just waiting for that form and I'll go ahead and update the email in our the link. That's in the pre-event um title, then we also want to send out an email about the pre-conference uh summit survey just to check on attendance. Do you want to do that separately? Or do you want it to just be part of the video yeah.

C

So um so that's actually change shape. Okay, so it's split into kind of two separate things. Okay, um one is um the um the issue that nigel has just filed for conference content and the second is going to be a survey for the social okay and, as a result, I don't see a separate email about that. I think it's going to get wrapped up in the meet and greet in the other communications.

E

Okay, so we don't need a separate email for this part.

C

No, but I might want to tweet.

E

Yes, that's in the tweet section already, okay, so we'll go over that in a second yeah, um I'm just going to strike through this. For now.

C

E

Guess that's not right. I will remove it for now and put it elsewhere just in case we need it yeah and.

C

That's that's the same thing as the transportation arrangements, email. So, okay, the uh that's the next.

E

Question yep, so just these two emails.

C

Yeah so yeah um the um yep.

E

Perfect, so moving into tweets, we sent out one about the registration deadline, uh we're planning to do for this week and next week wednesday 9 a.m, uh emails, which I think is gonna be, did we decide cest or pst, or do we want to do both?

E

We can figure that out.

D

Do both I don't care, it makes sense to me cover all the time zones that way.

E

Okay sounds good, um so we'll send out a promo about the contributor summit, just hyping up how awesome it's going to be both this week and next week, then unconference submissions is going to be its own separate thing with the issue that nigel is going to do.

E

Nigel sent us that other issue that I need to put into here.

A

And I've got it 6633 nice number.

E

I've got it if my thing will copy correctly. There we go.

E

So if we need to write it ourselves, if you can't get around to it, we can just do it. Based on that.

C

I don't I don't have edit access. You want to give me edit access.

E

On this just yeah- oh, let's see here- change viewer, editor, okay, I've updated the link to anyone on the internet can edit. So if you refresh, I think you should be good.

C

Yeah: okay, okay, good yep works. Now, thanks, perfect.

E

Okay, so then the next thing is tweets during the conference. Basically, so we've got the separate spreadsheet where we're listing out all those and we're getting help from lots of wonderful folks for helping us to write those tweets um for the sig meet and greet. We have three planned one on monday to remind people that it's happening on friday, one on wednesday to remind people that it's happening on friday and then a friday day of yeah that sound good yeah.

C

um I've actually got a question for you about all these tweets, yes, um is it is? Is it worth trying to push through getting authorization to get that time, tweet tool um before kubecon, because because occasionally, these are for sending out things during kubecon, which seems.

D

It would be, it would become really handy very quickly. Let's put it like that. Okay,.

C

Yeah I mean we're talking we're talking about 60 bucks. I think I can get uh what's the.

A

D

Of that tool again.

C

D

Bufferapp.Com and.

C

D

Ten dollar plan yeah.

C

Yeah, okay, so 100 yep, yeah.

E

The way that this um process works for the kubecon tweets, we've done this a couple of times now is I use this spreadsheet to describe all the tweets that we need recruit other folks from the community to help create them, and then I go through each one review it and put it into either twitter or twitter together or not twitter, together, the other one tweetdeck to schedule them all before the event, so I just schedule them all manually, which is why we have this spreadsheet at all.

D

So if we had buffer, we could literally.

E

We could do it in the.

D

E

D

E

We already have the spreadsheet for this time, so I mean.

D

E

Except I could schedule it through that and we could start getting familiar with it. It's not super urgent, but I mean it'll be good. Whenever we get it.

E

And then the slack bot blasts also about the sick, meet and greet I also have in here since that's where I'm talking about that um and we're waiting for.

E

Are we waiting for any particular resources from you on that josh? Or are you ready for it.

A

For this yeah the meet and greet sign up sheet right, okay need.

B

The meet and greet sign.

A

Up, let's see the last thing that we need before.

E

So once that's ready, we can go ahead and send that out on the slackbot.

E

The next thing is sig meetings. I wasn't sure how many of those there are, but you all shared with me the links to the sign up sheets, so we can go ahead and plan to send out some information about that as soon as possible. We can already say, like three are scheduled: when the other one gets scheduled, we could send out another tweet. I think this is something that's fine to do. A few tweets about. Does that sound good to folks.

A

E

Is there a steering ama happening? Do we know? I think that was mentioned in our last meeting.

A

Yeah, I think I got confirmed yeah.

H

Yep uh enough steering will be there where we can have an ama cool.

E

Okay, do you have a plan time schedule any information about that that we can use to craft a tweet.

A

H

Not yet, um I have no idea on time.

H

After noon would be well, we will probably have more people if it's at least late morning or afternoon.

E

Is it going to be during the contributor summit.

H

Yes, there will be a separate steering ama as part of main kubecon, um but that's more again, general public. The steering one will be the the computer symbol will not be recorded.

C

You only back up the time of the steering. Ama is not unknown. We have that on the schedule as being 10 30 a.m.

D

E

D

H

Okay, I will bounce that in steering real, quick.

A

Might be a good idea, I mean we could move it around still, but uh yeah yeah. It.

D

C

The schedule will upset nigel.

C

The whole idea was we wanted to have something scheduled well, there was no.

A

Well, there was a voting and gathering of time yeah.

C

Well well, the unconference was not scheduled yet.

E

Okay, so bob, if I hear from you that that timing is okay, we can go ahead and mention that our we honestly don't even have to say the time really just say that it's part of the contributor summit yeah. I think that's plenty honestly yeah, so we can go ahead and do that asap. I'm gonna bold it to let myself know that that needs to be done and also asap.

A

If it helps, we could move like half an hour back towards lunch like.

H

Well, I just tossed it in the steering committee channel so we'll wait for people to act in there.

E

And then the only other two tweets that I have currently planned on this list are reminders about the emails that are going to be going out. um One about the uh this is gonna, be the okay yeah. This is to be the pre-event.

A

E

Now and the other one will be the signature.

E

Okay, so those two tweets will just be reminders to check your email, because we want to send those emails out directly to registrants right of the well. I guess not the sick meet and greet just we're waiting for the forum on that. One.

C

E

But these will be reminders to.

C

Check your email.

E

C

Yep, so I'll get I'll, get the meet and greet form done today, um uh as well as adding it to the website um the um the. But, if you want to wait until tomorrow morning, to actually send out the blast since, after all, we are targeting europeans yep.

E

Sounds good send at an eu friendly time.

E

And same for the email.

E

I noticed that gmail actually has the ability to schedule emails to go out, so we can once we have the form we can go ahead and schedule the email, oh cool, oh nice. I do that all the time. It's amazing. It's so cool.

C

uh Bob I just dropped a last minute item on the um steering committee meeting for um getting a buffer account for sending time tweets for contributor comps.

A

He might be away for a while.

C

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C

A

Before that, if you drop something it'll be approved, real quick.

C

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E

So that's the overview of the columns that we have planned. Okay, let me know if there's anything, that's missing anything else. You need, if you're worried about stuff during the conference check out the spreadsheet, it has a lot of stuff in it.

C

Okay, what I'm worried about during the conference is that nobody's going to see those because they're not necessarily going to be checking messages so, but we'll still tweet aggressively right, send them out anyway. The the um it's actually more useful for things like for the meet and greet people like wait now, where was the meet and greet again exactly yep.

E

That's what we try to be at least okay, um so I should probably I'm wondering if I should send out another one about the sig meet and greet before, but I guess we're gonna do that with the email, so that should be covered. Okay,.

C

D

Bob's back what question do we have.

C

Oh, I just wanted to let him I just wanted to. Let him know that I dropped the buffer account request on the steering committee agenda.

D

C

Yeah yeah, okay, because it's a funding, request, yep, the um so um okay um skipping around, because we went over on conference and sick meetings.

C

I want to go back to the social um debbie still here still here, yep okay, so I talked to lockheed about the whole quiz show thing yeah and he wants people to be able to, like you would for a normal pub quiz to be able to get together into small teams.

C

Okay, um based on that, could we order five tiaras instead of just one. I.

G

Ordered six already.

C

um The um yeah I'll I'll, because we're still tinkering with it I'll hand out printing I'll handle printing out um answer cards for that. Okay sounds good. The um because they're, not it's not gonna, they're, not gonna, be designed like the bingo card was so the.

C

C

Okay, I mean my. My main problem is, of course, that I don't have. I don't have enough kubernetes branded ceramics to give everybody in the team one.

E

You'll just have to work on that for next time.

D

No challenge or anything.

C

I can't yeah can't there's absolutely no way to turn around things in time. The um so well right, if I'd known, I was doing this six months ago, would have been easy.

D

E

Well now you do, you know you're doing it for detroit.

A

That you gave me in china so.

C

Although the um yeah and we can even think about more creative ideas for detroit, like, for example, a a kubernetes branded pizza, spatula.

A

Nice, that is on brand.

C

The um okay um and that's it for the social um everything else we already went over.

A

Oh, I I did uh just this morning. Remember: uh do we need anything to like identify um the team on site? Like I remember, y'all had like in san diego, you had those.

H

A

Or something honestly, it's it's too late to get anything.

H

Ordered or anything like that right now, um all right, if you.

C

A

C

It would be like 70, an item and.

A

C

So um yeah I'm going to bring my old staff hoodie, which I still have, um um but but only people who were working that particular coup can't have those.

D

That's a good point and I gotta find mine too.

C

A

It's gonna be hard to find something that all of us have.

C

Some some people will have them. I I'm honestly this is, I mean we're doing a lot of planning for this, but this is still going to be a relatively relaxed one compared to say san.

A

C

And I'm fine with that. I kind of feel like by san diego, the contributor somebody gotten kind of out of control.

C

So I'm glad to hit a big I'll just point out the first contributor summit. We had nothing, we didn't even have a firm attendee list. um I got my invitation like that morning. So um that's.

H

How I learned the one in 2017.

C

C

So I mean you know at least we have a firm supply of coffee and snacks. That's the important part.

A

Yeah and we have rooms for other people, just stand around.

C

C

What else do we need puja.

A

Okay, um I I I just remembered: I need to fill the sket. um I have the link. I have everything so, okay, that should be done, but at some point tonight, yeah.

C

I I put the last version of the schedule on the website: okay, cool.

A

C

A

There on the website so.

C

Just update it in the website as well, if you're, changing anything, okay um um and and also somebody could maybe reformat that I'm not I'm not clear on how hugo handle first of all, are we using hugo for the contributor site um or is it something else, I'm not sure the contributor site handles tables. So I didn't try.

H

It's hugo doxy right yep, it is hugo with doxy and you can do html tables um I just like. I would recommend a preview just to make sure everything looks right before you know pushing. Although you'll get the preview once you open the pr2.

A

You can do those markup table markdown tables, but they're like really ugly to handle it's.

H

They're, okay for small things. But if you have.

F

H

Tablets of pain um for the schedule itself, we can embed sketch like there is a thingy, um a hugo short link or not sure, like short code, for sketched already, okay, once it's in dumped and sketched, we can just embed it and replace the the table format. Schedule too.

A

Okay, cool so yeah, then I'll do that.

A

Anything else, uh that's everything, uh no t-shirts, we'll save them from uh for lay.

C

Yeah, do you do you want to ship them to la deb, or you want to hold them for next year's europe either way works.

F

I'm fine with either way they just were not going to make it in time. For this year's event, yep the.

A

La here means detroit right.

D

G

C

The um yeah either way that would be a fun bonus for people who are showing up at whichever one just seems like shipping them over an ocean might be um expensive, but the um on the other hand, holding on to them for another six months probably also makes a difference. I'm just glad that you still have them.

C

I thought they might have ended up being destroyed or something.

F

Oh, we got them they're there, okay, they're ready to be enjoyed.

C

Yeah, the um oh finally I'll get mine. I I actually printed out one just for me because that's.

F

Good you designed it that was worth it yeah.

C

And I spent a lot of time in that design because of the color separation issues the um so it's like.

C

C

um And we might actually have a, although we might have a shirt for detroit.

C

um Although I'm going to see if I can talk caslin here into designing that one.

E

Sounds like a challenge.

C

Well, you know, I figured you know whatever it is uh tim designed, four or five of them, and I designed four or five of them.

E

Designed a shirt, but it's now ever since I learned that you designed the shirts, it's been on my bucket list to design a shirt now.

C

I mean the only difference. Is I mean if you've done design for other kinds of print? It's pretty much the same, which is you have to pay attention? How many colors you're using and yeah stay away from uh too much in the way of gradations, because yeah.

E

It also probably needs to be an svg, which my software, that I normally use has issues with.

E

um Usually the t-shirt.

C

Companies actually would prefer an ai if you can produce that the um isn't.

D

That adobe illustrator, like proprietary format, yeah.

E

C

E

I should get illustrator.

C

Yeah they give me a list of uh formats. I was able to convert to what they needed. Okay,.

E

I can probably figure something out there.

H

Are other things out there to convert it to ai if you need, if you need to.

E

Yeah and also to svg, but those are your little.

C

Yeah but, like I said.

E

C

Know you know it's we're talking about t-shirt vendors here, so yeah.

D

C

If it wasn't, if.

D

It wasn't a popular format.

C

10 years ago they don't know how to handle it.

C

I don't know the um hey, I used.

D

To have girl draw.

C

D

They did, that was pretty cool. I wonder.

C

If I could get it to run in a container that would be entertaining, can.

D

You find an image old enough. I.

C

Can't I can't you know I I actually.

D

Need to rip your cd destroy an entire.

C

100 pound box of old software, cds and I'm sure that was in there.

C

C

So yeah, I was really entertained by that. When deb forwarded me the list of formats, they would accept.

D

Just to point out, if we need more artists, we can tweet that.

C

Yeah just saying no, we have. We have our little group on slack yeah, oh wow, there's.

H

Even a channel for it.

C

Crafter crafter neddy's, oh.

D

Oh, oh, okay! It.

C

Hasn't been very active since the contributor celebration, but that's why it's around.

D

C

The um so all right, well I mean so theoretically we would throw it open, but even if we do have a feeling that the design is gonna come from caslin.

D

C

Because among among other things, she's an actual like design and drawing person.

D

And she's good at it, yeah.

C

um The um it was fun for me. I got to use tools that I hadn't used in like 15 years and as a result, have improved tremendously like drawing tablets, are awesome. Now even the checkpoints.

A

Yeah yeah: it's amazing how cheap you can go, go and still get some quality out of it. Yeah.

C

A

C

That cost me 100 bucks is better than the drawing tablet I had 20 years ago wow. It cost me over a thousand dollars.

H

Other crazy thing is like the tablets themselves in general, like I know, a lot of artists that use their ipad or what's the the samsung one galaxy like, I think, the galaxy pad or whatever it is that, like.

D

H

Thing yeah, though they use those day in and day out,.

A

I think and she's just like all day.

C

Okay, we're done.

A

Cool um anything else we need to go through over the the on-site walkthrough. I think we handled that last time. There's a few people of you. There.

A

Oh deb, do you need any anyone else? There were quite a few of us.

D

F

Yeah nope, if anyone wants to join just, let me know I'll add you to the invite or just show up we'll be there, um but that's it.

A

Good then uh that's it for today um I'll be online for comms and stuff today and tomorrow anyway, and um you'll see each other for the last meeting on next monday.

D

A

See everyone thank you. Bye.