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[SIG ContribEx] Contributor Comms Meeting for 20230623

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Hello all and welcome to the June 23rd uh contributor comms team meeting I am Chris short co-lead of these sub projects. uh We have a lot of people out today, but Frederico and I are here to discuss all the things. uh Federico I'll remind you that we follow the cncf code of conduct here.

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Know I don't want anything bad to happen in those meeting between you and I think so.

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You know I'll do my best yeah.

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If you're, if you're in the dock, like me, um you want to add anything, go ahead uh but yeah the Castle is out today she's on a plane at the moment, so I'm running the show at the moment. So yes, um my updates at least, are well I'll wait for art, but since he's joining and there's only two of us AR, but um so my big updates are zapier.

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Things are moving Nigel's, taking a look at things and trying to get the right access, so he can verify everything's working right um and we think there's a G Drive component, that's broken and then it'll be working, um hopefully uh also the. uh If you were in the contribex meeting this week, you heard from Peter yes that the code spaces contributor, Workshop stuff is uh almost done. It's literally a PR away.

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um Sure Jay is working on the slackbot. He dropped that in chat and Avinash said he would uh report and chat later anything he needed. So this is it for uh this meeting folks um feel free to include things and unmute and discuss.

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Yeah um I've added a couple of them I've actually uh also made this change in the board, but I think this is useful. The updates big win one is actually useful for us to to make any change in states of things more visible right. So.

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You want me to go to the board real, quick or yeah.

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Yes, I, you can or yeah.

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Yeah, so um you you will see that in the it's.

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Just the right board.

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I mean this might be the wrong board: I I, if it's, if you're right.

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Here we go comps.

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Okay, that's the one that I know this old.

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One still I think right: okay, I thought we deleted this. Did we not.

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I I haven't but I I I. Don't think that.

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uh Okay, you may need to delete, got it.

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To kill the old one, yes,.

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Like we, we have to be like everyone in the world has to be better about cleaning up after uh software right like it's just a thing all right. So this is the right one. Yeah.

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Yeah awesome: you will see that um there's.

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Entry in in one in one fix uh is the spotlight on the book. Reading club.

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I've I've talked with with girls on this, and uh it told me that the activity itself is building down so, okay, it doesn't really make sense to to go to spotlights about that. So.

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That's one: the.

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Other one it's in the ready for review. um uh Actually the belts are the same thing. I just left the draft in in there, uh but I've since I've also opened the pr um that's the initial, very simple uh readme just linking to the existing um uh files.

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There um I actually didn't delete the draft because there was a comment there around images which I'm not sure if I've completely addressed it, because there's not one um image related document, but but that's the the information about images is included in one of the documents there, but so I think it's it's it's that so that's open for review. So we can obviously now do any suggestions and editing there. uh I I just did some mild spell tracking Etc.

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So even on that front, I I'm I'm sure that there are uh suggestions but I've kept it as simple as possible. Just to be sure that people that land.

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That page can understand what it, what is, the structure around it and I've tried to order things according to the topics like the spotlight, the blogs and, at the end, the channel communication Stuff Etc.

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um This also was a new useful exercise, because um I think the different documents there have different were done at different points in time suddenly and maybe having this will help us in in in knowing that we perhaps we need to update some of them, for example, the multi-channel communications, with the recent advances in terms of Mastodon and stuff, like that, maybe that's a good place to to reflect that um so I guess. This also helps in in providing us with more visibility, because one thing is to have a folder full of Markland files.

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The other is have Link Link document, with the description.

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Yeah and I love docs that they call like an index stock is the best right, like that's.

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To go to to figure out where to get started and move on with life kind of thing, yeah totally.

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So that's up for review. We can obviously improve it there, but at least it's sure it's out there right.

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Yeah anything else.

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Sorry, let me let me think um uh well, um not in terms of updates. I do have some couple of status updates on other board stuff, like this uh Sig architecture, Spotlight article I've, updated the actual issue with uh with the lists of um projects that have replied. uh I have two full replies right now: um I have one partial one which I didn't indicate because it wasn't ready, but it's still the best content and I have two to go. So that's this.

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The status of it I think to everyone this week got some in general I'm getting feedback. uh If, while that doesn't necessarily translate to having answers there at least having feedback saying, um I need a couple a week, more Etc I think that that's um that's still useful and um well, and that's that's it for, for that, um not not another one I've um we have the Spotlight on the contributor.

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Summits I've asked the the last leap to tell me if this was a good time to go through this, because work is in progress for the North America kubecon, so, depending on the on the roles that people take.

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um Maybe this is a good time and maybe or maybe it isn't so yeah- that's it I'm working on feedback on that one, but uh I might have got feedback that I've asked uh in this morning. So it's it's still up to us cool and then then, for me, that's I think everything.

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That's all yeah, that is thank you Frederico. We appreciate all the work you do.

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You really do know. Thank you. It's not nothing.

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um Anybody else anything to ask, discuss, updates.

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Yeah, so I have actually uh drafted the first draft of the six Eli blog. uh It is not updated with the links or something but uh like it's a very very initial version of the blog, so I have done it on hey.

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Regarding this blog post layer, right, I am doing this for the first time. So, okay.

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Yeah Frederico, you want to check that okay, I.

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Was I was opening it um Let me. Let me take a quick look.

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It looks great yeah, yeah.

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Exactly that's what I was going to say. um Please remind me, remember me remind me: um we already did you already share this and or because I sometimes I forget things right. Apologies for that! So I I think I, remember discussing this and uh having an initial conversation right, uh but now it's on yeah.

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I am also late in drafting this due to I am traveling Mumbai and all so yeah from my side for the delay, but uh like I have drafted this yesterday uh and like it is a very initial version. I have not updated the links yet like, uh like the speakers, link their profiles.

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And all yeah I.

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Need to do that, but it is a basic outline of the blog like.

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Can add something on the feedback so like I thought to share it with you and actually I cannot find uh I want to DM you regarding this, but I cannot.

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You on Flex, like there are two or three uh or folks of the same name, so I am like uh confused of so okay.

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Well, if you foreign,.

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Foreign yeah, but anyway, uh let's focus on things. I think this looks structure-wise fine I will take an additional look. If you agree what I will do is I'll. Add a link to this in the sequence of X comms Channel as well, so that people can join in and and and do it uh share some thoughts. You can reflect them there and then we can um well. We give it a couple of days, a weak tops and then we'll open.

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The pr and that's it I mean the the most difficult part of this is to getting the uh the answers you you have that so and actually you, you are interviewing two different persons right.

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Yeah, actually uh one is Katrina and the other one is so yeah. So uh actually there I did an asynchronous interview and uh I give them the Google docs to write down seven.

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Written that so I have converted them into the blog, so I think uh these answers need some grammatical refinement. So I am going to do that, as do that too, as well uh in this, but uh like uh do I need to change the structure or something like what I did is here: I divide the blogs or the interview sections into the parts like originally. What I did with the questions like these questions are about the six CLI.

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These questions are about the uh challenges uh and the other, and the last part is of the contribution. So do I need to divide these or should I remove the sections or anything else. Okay,.

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Okay, um I mean looks great, let's uh I'll take a look as well. You also add your the refinements that you have already identified um I'll. Add the first step uh link to the contrabx.com so that anyone can take a look and then we will just take it from there and and proceed naturally. I would I would move this into ready for reviewing the board if it isn't there already I.

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Won't do that now.

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Cool excellent I.

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Know is that right now, yeah.

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Right wrong, one.

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Above there, it is yeah.

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Perfect moving things in between lanes gives me an enderfin Rush. It's right.

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Awesome yeah anyone else.

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I'm gonna make a note in here. Can I make a note in here? No I was gonna copy pasta. The heck MD in here where the hack and D-Link I should say.

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Here we go all right, cool um put that in the notes.

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Okay, cool I already did uh anything else today. Folks.

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And someone shed some light on what roles I can help with as a shadow or volunteer at kubecon contributor Summit in a 2023 virtually I. Don't think we do a virtual component to the contributor Summit anymore, to be honest with you, um but that doesn't mean you can't participate.

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um I know I. What did I do last time? I did comms last time. I did not actually go to the event right, so it's possible for you to be like a shadow for comms, but that also means you want to take over as a lead for comms too. So just keep that in mind right like if you volunteer for a shadow this this go out the next time you might be asked to leave. So just keep that in mind.

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um I led comms last time and went great all Shadow this time. Just to make sure you know, people have help. um That's the one thing. I couldn't necessarily lie on everybody that volunteered to help me wasn't.

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Always fast to give me feedback Federico, you got probably a lot of more feedback than I do on.

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That yeah, no actually you I, might follow your path and maybe uh submit myself. If, if that's useful, because maybe that's one of the things that I can do, I.

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Think it's very useful um because, because like being a single person like this is just me right, like I, think like Chris, is highly confident right. Even I hesitate before I hit, send to the entire Community right.

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Intimidating so any help that you can give I'm sure it will be appreciated this time out.

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So I'll I'll go there uh um to the to your question. uh Last time. I only participated last time and I was um I. I was reading the the events uh theme um and that was marked as strictly uh on location, right, yeah.

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Site yeah, so there were at the at the Europe uh kubecon different teams had different requirements, which means that some of them actually welcome welcomed virtual participants I'm, but but this was then I haven't since I'm, not going to the North America kubecon um I haven't taken taken a deep Loop there.

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I might do so now, because what Chris mentioned, maybe that's something I can help with, but I would take, and maybe you already did this sandipan uh take a look into the issue that was open for this and check if they have updated information on the teams that are looking for Shadows. If there's any documented on-site virtual requirements there, if there isn't, then maybe they've moved to an on-site only thing I I, but I'm not aware of that.

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Yeah, there's a if you mention in Sig control. X I should like to be a part of the next uh contributor Summit planning they'll pull like there's going to be a PR or an issue where you volunteer for Stuff, and you know you can kind of go from there once it starts.

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Just checked the summit staff Channel I didn't see anything in there. Have they already started like I.

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Yeah I've received the I.

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Let me see I've.

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Been so busy at work, I can't pay attention.

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Right now, let me see if I can actually, yes and Sandy pan already he's already there so yeah I'm. Seeing on my email, notifications, um okay, let me so let me I'll add the the link here. Thank.

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What is um it's in here, but it's shot.

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Right this is it okay and um actually.

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Oh, it's damn near full.

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Actually, there are a couple of questions: uh Sandy pan already. This said that he would like to Shadow for comms and help with content. Then he'll, he let you asked if there's any opportunity for virtual contributors Etc um what.

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I'm looking now, there's.

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An application here this is.

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We have a strong preference that participants as lead Shadows volunteers, be present at a contributed Summit to help on site. This does not mean that you cannot help virtually. There will be opportunities and we encourage you to come to planning meetings in order to find virtual opportunities when I pass. This is that I mean they are not saying no, but they are not saying yes, either I I.

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That's a strong preference and you can still help for me means if you want to be a shadow you should be on site. uh If not, you will not be a shadow, but you can. You can assist in other, in other words, exactly yeah.

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So I intend to be on site this time, um so yeah, that's gonna work for me very well, I.

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Sad in Europe I could not go to the contributor Summit, because I've never been to a contributor Summit in Europe before and I still haven't.

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That's what happens when you're running your uh company's Day, Zero virtual, hybrid event, thingy so yeah? um No! This is awesome. uh Yeah I think I mean having been in the meeting uh this this week, so like shadow in general and we've had this discussion in this meeting. I. Think shadow in general is a bladder system right like that's how it's originally intended.

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So if you volunteer to Shadow something eventually, the expectation will be you'll lead that something or co-lead that something right so I think that's how I got involved in leadership here, because you know I just started showing up at the meetings and doing things and then eventually it was like Shadow this and then now you're a co-lead, so yeah uh there needs to be just the same kind of ladder system that we have here right uh across the project we have to.

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We have to remind folks of that I think was the big takeaway from the meeting, um because volunteering for shadow and not showing up to help ever is a very routine thing for this stuff. So, like I get it there's time offsets, but I totally had it set up to where I could work. Asynchronously with my team and I just didn't get much feedback or help so uh towards the.

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Was more like okay, I'll write it okay, I'll, do all the work yeah.

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If you can't really depend on on it, you end up, sometimes it's worse because sometimes.

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It's much worse, yeah yeah.

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Because it, if you know that you will do it, then you prepare for it, but um otherwise yeah absolutely I had most of the people that ended up helping, but I also had some that, for completely understandable reasons,.

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Yeah I mean sometimes people have to back out I get that that's totally acceptable.

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But after yeah, but you have everything plans like slots and stuff and suddenly you have to do the corporate, so yeah I I, understand why the on-site thing is also there and I actually add this at on on-site with people on site. So I can imagine that for virtual it will be even worse because there's less engagement, let's be honest right. One thing is to be there with people. The other is to be remote, yeah, so Sandy pan uh to make a long story short I.

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Think that's strictly speaking, foreshadowing the North America contributor Summit the way that I'm reading this is that. Well, you can help, but not necessarily in the same way that Shadows were on onboarded. Previously that's my reading on this yeah, but I mean you can I think that the meeting itself is open. So maybe you can ask.

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Yeah feel free to chat and channel about it. Asking folks right, like the it was a lead identified or that I guess that's who opened the issue in it.

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Oh okay, cool nice job, so Nigel's awesome to work with too by the way like seriously. If.

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You have the opportunity.

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To work with Nigel, you should do it. Foreign.

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Yeah so there's already a lead for reg yeah.

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It's already a lead.

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Application together nicely I spoke with Natalie and uh she took over actually a good one, because Natalie, for example, was a shadow that goes into your leather or leather comment. Right.

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Right yeah, it's it's good to see that I'll, just like that's working like as we put emphasis on that it'll, be awesome.

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uh Just out of curiosity, what are like the Visa issues between India and France, like what's the I, don't understand that International relationship, obviously, but I hear about it like happening to folks trying to come to the EU from India all the time.

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um I guess I should Google it before I. Ask you all, but.

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But yeah uh anything else for this particular meeting nope. Oh um all right! Well, let's wrap it up by whopping 30 three minute.

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Meeting two minutes: yeah, actually we've covered everything. So it's great yeah.

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I mean we did it so cool all right, leading adjourned. You all have a great weekend. Thank you. All.

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Bye-Bye and see you later.