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A
Hey
y'all,
this
is
the
weekly
kubernetes
working
group
for
upstream
marketing.
It
is
a
small,
wonderful
crew
here
today,
but
we're
going
to
yeah
jump
right
into
it,
so
any
kind
of
search
from
the
top
any
big
things
going
on.
I
guess
the
biggest
one
being
the
kubernetes
contributor
site
has
been
seemingly
going.
Well,
I
the
did
you
see
that
in
so
in
bob's
email
out
to
everybody,
he
included
the
tweet
and
that
got
retweeted
like
150
times.
A
B
Tweets
the
emails
say
again,
I
think
it's
a
good
good
way
to
start
referencing
tweets
in
the
emails
we
sent.
A
Yeah
yeah,
that's
a
it's
a
pretty
classic
marketing
tactic
that
I
didn't.
I
honestly
didn't
know
if
people
would
care
here,
you
know
like
we're
in
this
open
source
community.
I
don't
know
if
people
are
going
to
click
it
and
actually
go.
Do
the
action,
but
enough
of
enough
to
make
it
worthwhile.
That's
for
sure.
A
Traction,
oh,
it's
a
little
traction
terribly
great,
well
anything
else,
important
or
new.
A
A
Yeah
you're
very,
very
welcome
it's
a
it's
a
small,
wonderful
gang
today,
but
we're
gonna
work
through
the
agenda
cool.
What
else
is
going
on
so
editorials
are
in
progress:
yeah
they're,
oh
good
point:
rejuva
yeah,
the
new
comps
template
merged.
A
That
is
a
huge,
huge
improvement
and
I
see
a
couple.
People
have
opened
well,
suresh
opened
one
recently
and
a
new
new
request
for
cons.
A
A
So
that's
exciting
and
it
looks
like
we
got
back
to
the
only
people
who
have
requested
notifications
have
gotten
it.
We've
closed
those
issues,
so
that's
really
encouraging
and
yeah.
We've.
Last
week
we
opened
the
periodic
tweets
and
emails
about
sigs
that
sirech
suggested.
So
we
can
talk
through
that
a
little
bit
more
today
great
editorials
in
progress.
I
don't
think
anyone
caslin
has
been
working
on
one,
but
I
don't
think
we've
been
doing
much.
Writing
we've
been
more
focused
on
cross
communication
in
last
week.
A
A
You
know
not
that
they
have
to
be
strictly
separate
but
having
clear
suggestions,
kind
of
helps.
People
know
where
to
go
and
also
might
lead
to
a
new
content
type.
If
people
are
saying
how
are
you
contributing
like?
How
do
you
set
up
your
ide?
How
do
you
set
up
your
your
day
so
that
you
have
time
to
contribute?
I
think
those
kind
of
articles
can
give
people
the
idea
like.
Oh,
I
can
find
time
in
my
week
or
my
month
to
be
part
of
kubernetes
and
I
love
those
stories
personally.
A
They
inspire
me
to
do
stuff
like
this
so
I'll
I'll
leave
that
as
something
to
follow
up
with
him
on,
but
I
think
the
big
thing
is
bots
in
progress.
So
let's
check
them
out.
B
B
More
planned
after
this,
I
I
really
want
to
automate
the
process
of
the
shout
outs
channel.
Oh.
C
B
A
Gp
jeffy
jeffrey,
I
don't
know
how
to
say
his
handle
correctly
but
yeah
jeff
to
fly,
and
I
think
we'll
just
have
to
wait
on
that
and
kind
of
work
through
our
team
too,
and
through
contributor
experience
and
see
if
we
can
get
his
attention
again.
A
Pause,
no
thanks
bears
yeah
rizzula
made
some
updates
to
a
bot
and
jeffy
reviewed.
He
made
all
the
fixes,
and
now
it's
kind
of
not
hanging
out
for
a
week
plus
again,
which
happens
but
we'll
yeah
any
help
to
nudge
it
along
would
be
awesome.
A
Good,
that's
that
one.
I
think
what
I've
had
way
more
fun
with
than
I
expected
was
the
the
other
bot
in
progress
that
is
live
is
the
the
tweet
bot
and
I
just
think
it's
a
really
cool
tool
to
be
able
to
open
a
pull
request
to
be
able
to
send
a
tweet.
A
I
think
we
left
it
off.
We
at
the
end
of
last
meeting
we
were
talking
about
the
scheduling,
tooling,
is
not
working
as
designed.
So
in
that
update
can
I
I
was
planning
to
move
that
to
a
section
like
not
working
yet,
and
you
know
kind
of
not
suggest
it
does
that
make
sense.
A
Oh,
is,
is
the
scheduling
of
tweets
through
this
twitter
together
thing
working
or
it's.
B
A
Yeah
yeah
and
I
I
think
I'll
I'll
document
that
work
around
how
about
that
big
and
if
what
changes
in
the
future
we'll
update
the
the
readme,
but
that
idea
of
making
it
about
that
is.
Yeah
is
kind
of
the
right
angle.
A
A
Great
kind
of
on
the
tail
end
of
recurring
items
so
normally
do
a
calendar
walkthrough
with
rajula
anything
interesting
or
exciting.
To
know
there
that
we
should
be
emailing
about.
A
A
A
Let's
see
just
normal
sig
meetings,
which.
A
C
I
think
we
I
think
in
the
past
we
said
that,
like
it
was
okay
as
like
random
one-offs,
but
not
necessarily
something
that
would
like
pull
directions
of
people
towards
things
all
of
the
time.
Yeah.
A
A
Cool
any
tweet
stuff,
I
think
caslin
has
the
the
day-to-day
covered
and
she
can't
make
it
today,
but
anything
any
twitter
announcements
that
are
important
to
us.
Flipped
off
your
head.
C
C
C
Look
out
for
them
and
if
anybody
feels
like
interviewing
them
for
a
blog
or
like
whatever
assets,
feel
free,
they're,
open
they're
going
to
take
j
j
is
one
of
the
organizers
and
jay
said
he
wanted
to.
C
He
wanted
to
personally
reach
out
and
thank
the
community
on
the
kdev
mailing
list,
but
at
the
same
time
he
said
he
would
probably
appreciate
some
eyeballs
on
that
email,
and
so
I
told
him
to
reach
out
to
y'all
direct
as
well.
So
all
this
is
like
in
transit,
but
it's
awesome.
C
C
That's
really
cool
thanks
and
then
the
other
one
is
james's
post
about
getting
the
word
out
more
regarding
the
slack
reporter
so
just
like
sending
sending
a
tweet,
maybe
even
if
it's
like,
on
a
cadence
of
like
once
a
month,
sending
a
tweet
plus
like
kdev
email,
maybe
even
blog
posts,
depending
on
like
how
how
much
time
and
availability
people
have
again.
C
But
we
do
have
this,
like
slack
infra
and
a
lot
of
people,
don't
know
that
you
can
report
incidents
through
the
slack
info
that
we
built.
So
it's
just
highlighting
that
that's
that
tool
is
there
for
people.
It's
like
safety
measures
like
if
someone
is
dming
you
and
you
don't
want
them
to.
You-
can
just
like
go
to
the
hamburger
and
say
like
this
person
is
dming
me
get
them
out
of
my
dms
and
then
also
like
in
channels.
C
If
you
see
spam,
you
can
like
hamburger
it,
and
then
the
slack
admins
will
see
it.
So
it's
a
it's
just
pretty
much
a
response
system
and
a
lot
of
people
don't
know
about
it.
C
I
mean
if
you're
in
slack
a
lot
and
just
play,
are
playing
around
with
things
you
see
it
probably,
but
there's
I
don't
know
if
there's
ever
really
been
too
many
announcements
about
like
the
stuff
that
the
like
the
tools
and
like
what's
available
yeah
so
sort
of
like
did
you
know,
like
the
more
you
know,
rainbow.
C
D
C
You
know
helps
us,
you
know
everybody's,
a
community
moderator.
You
know
like
that
kind
of
help
us
out
by
you
know.
Maybe
I
don't
even
know
so.
That's
that
one
there's
so
much
going
on
y'all,
I'm
so
sorry,
that's
how
I
was.
A
That's
awesome,
that's
a
that's!
A
pretty
straightforward
one
makes
me
think
of
two
things.
Well,
you
mentioned
the
getting
the
word
out
about
an
a
new
blog
post
and
it
would
be
cool.
I
wonder
if
there's
a
I
bet,
there's
a
github
action
way
to
be
able
to
snag
they're
like
subscribed
to
the
rss
feed
of
kubernetes
blog
and
then
like
set
up
a
tweet
for
it.
A
A
C
And
then
we
also
have
the
steering
committee
election,
and
I
know,
though
I
know
the
election
officers
are
super
close
to
the
coms,
but
it
would
be
cool
if
this
group
could
still
like
roll
up
major
comms,
meaning
tweet
like
once
a
week.
That's
like
reminder
know
anybody,
that's
good,
we're
still
the
nomination.
You
know
like
that
kind
of
thing
and
caslin
I've
already
talked
to
caslin
about
this
as
well.
Oh.
C
Like
there's,
there's
no
need
like
if
y'all
are
like
seeing
the
voter
emails
go
back
and
forth,
there's
pretty
much
no
need
to
like
blog
every
one
of
those
or
like
tweet
every
one
of
those
like
like.
Let
them
do
that
yeah,
let
them
let
them
work
out,
they're,
calm,
but
but
definitely
if
we
could
like
help
cheerlead
that
a
little
bit
and
like
get
the
community
excited,
and
you
know
like
some
some.
C
C
Steering
committee
actually
has
a
ask
us
anything
about
it.
I
think
it's
on
the.
I
think
it's
on
monday.
I
think
we
did.
I
think
it's
like
a
last
minute
thing
hold
on.
Let
me
look.
C
C
C
Yes,
yep
monday,
the
31st,
oh
yeah,
lockheed
lucky
hasn't
even
put
it
on
the
public
calendar.
Yet
that's
how
fresh
it
is.
So
it's
yeah
this
monday
at
11
a.m.
Pacific
time.
C
And
a
lot
of
the
the
intention
there
is
that
a
lot
of
the
steering
committee
candidates
that
are
running
right
now
have
questions
or
wanted
an
intentional
space
to
ask
questions
about
specifically
like
what
it
means
to
be
on
the
steering
committee.
So
awesome,
we're
gonna
address
those
questions
on
monday.
A
C
Yes,
that
would
be
awesome.
I
think
I
think
lockheed
sent
one
to
just
the
steering
group,
so
if
y'all
want
to
like
either
just
either,
if
you
want
to,
you
can
either
hit
the
forward
button,
nike,
dev
or
whatever.
C
But
the
other
angle
here
too,
that
I
didn't
want
to
mention
is
that
we
should
also
be
using
the
kubernetes
dev
slack
channel
so
like
anytime,
that
you
see
comms
go
out
from
kdev
feel
free
to
post
in
the
indicative
slack
channel
so
like
in
this
case,
feel
free
to
say,
oh
fyi,
all
like
there's
a
steering
committee
ama
for
if
you're
interested
in
running
here's
the
here's
the
link
to
the
email
from
their
from
their
google
group.
You
know
you
feel
free
to
do
any
of
that.
That's
fine!
C
I'm
fixing
that
right
now
I'm
fixing
the
event
and
then
I'm
also
I'll
hot
link,
the
the
email
to
to
you
so
hold
on
one
zack,
yeah.
A
A
B
A
C
A
A
A
B
Like
you
know,
for
example,
as
paris
was
mentioning,
there
is
a
new
sick
in
the
community
security.
So
not
everybody
knows
of
it.
So
we
can
remind
people
like
you
know:
okay,
hey
there
is
this,
like
you
know,
at
least
for
a
week,
lexical
of
the
week
sick
of
the
day,
something
like
that.
B
Yeah
I
mean
at
least
week
like
you
know,
please,
for
a
day.
Maybe
it
will
be
spamming,
so
if
it
is
weak,
I
think
it
would
be
good.
B
So
this
week,
like
you
know
we
post
about
like
you
know,
we
will
have
a
template
and
we
post
about
six
security
this
week
and
next
week,
sig
note
and
the
other,
the
other
with
six
cli.
So
we
can.
You
know
I
mean
rls,
like
you
know,
whichever
sick
should
be
focused
on,
so
we
can
post
about
that.
A
That
sounds
great.
What
a
what
a
great
idea
yeah!
I
could
see
us
adding
that
to
the
recurring
items
in
our
template,
and
you
know
tracking.
That
might
be
something
a
little
new
to
us.
I
don't
think
we've
ever
used
like
a
spreadsheet
type
tracker,
but
we
certainly
could
and
like
just
make
a
schedule
of
it
or
we
can
just
choose
one
that
we
haven't
talked
about
in
a
while,
like
just
go
to
the
repo
grab
one
and
do
it
any
thoughts.
A
Oh
sure,
yeah
sorry,
I
was
just
trying
to
think
out
loud
about
you
know.
How
will
we
keep
track
of
who's
up
next
in
the
sig
of
the
week?
You
know
right.
Do
we
want
to
work
through
the
list
from
the
repo
and
just
do
that
in
a
meeting
or
set
a
new
tracking
spreadsheet
and
say
like
well,
we
did
this
one
this
week
and
go
through
it.
Yeah,
okay,.
B
Yeah
yeah
sure,
okay
I'll
make
a
spreadsheet,
and
then
I
will
try
to
you,
know,
add
all
the
six
and
then
you
know-
or
I
will
also
track
the
meetings,
sig
meetings
so
which
meeting
I
mean,
which
is
an
next
segmenting
in
the
next
week
or
on
the
friday,
so
that
you
know
we
can
tweet
about
that.
Okay,
hey
this
sig
meeting
is
going
to
happen
today
or
tomorrow.
If
you
wish,
you
can
join
the
meeting
like
sure.
A
Well
so
yeah,
I
was
just
kind
of
brainstorming.
First,
you
don't
have
to
commit
to
it.
Yet
I'm
just
like.
Does
that
sound
like
a
good
idea?
Does
that
sound
like
something
we
should
just
check
in
on
meeting
the
meeting
rajula?
Do
you
have
an
opinion
as
well.
E
B
B
And,
for
example,
see
I
I
am
interested
in
joining
this
marketing
contraband
yeah
and
okay,
this
music
today,
this
meeting
is
at
like
7
pm
at
my
time,
and
I
get
this
invite
on
gmail.
B
B
Also,
like
you
know,
people
who
is
not
even
in
the
meeting
list
also
can
join
the
meeting,
for
example.
B
Yeah
I
mean
whenever
the
meeting
occurs
like,
for
example,
if
the
sick
contribution
meeting
is
today,
so
I
would
tweet,
like
you
know
some
two
hours
before
or
like
yeah
four
hours
before,
whichever
is
fine.
A
Yeah,
I
think
the
yeah
the
if
we
could
do
that
that's
aspirational
right
like
that'd,
be
awesome.
If,
before
every
meeting
we
could
tweet
it
like
if
we
can
get
to
that
level.
I
I
wouldn't
ask
a
human
to
do
that,
because
we're
we're
such
a
global
community
and
it'd
be.
B
A
And
I
don't
quite
know
for
we
we
have
the
tooling
yet
because
scheduling
isn't
ideal
but
like
maybe
like
we
can
the
minimum
viable
version
of
that
sorry
to
use
buzzwordy
things,
but
I
do
like
that
concept,
but,
like
the
minimum
version
would
be.
I
love
what
you
said
with.
A
Why
don't
we
focus
on
one
sig
a
week
and
just
give
it
a
little
bit
more
attention
and
like
no
one's
gonna,
mind
and
they'll
just
see
it
throughout
the
week,
and
that
way
we
can
focus
our
own
skills
on
that
as
well
of
like
all
right.
Well,
you
know
suresh.
If
you
want
to
get
comfortable
with
the
twitter
bot
thing
like
you,
could
you
could
schedule
some
tweets
by
a
pr
and
then
we
can
say
we'll
merge
them
throughout
the
week
and
rizzula
can
pay
cl.
A
Can
when,
during
this
meeting,
look
at
the
calendar
make
sure
that
we
email
about
that
specifically
and
say
hey.
This
is
our
featured
sig
of
the
week.
It's
what's
kind
of
cool
is
like
it.
It
also
psychologically
makes
us
an
authority
figure
like
we're,
saying,
like
hey
we're,
telling
you
to
focus
on
this.
One
like
they're
like
well
yeah.
I
should
pay
attention
because
you're
important,
like
oh
it,
it
kind
of
embeds
us
in
the
system
in
a
really
cool
way.
A
So
I
I
love
that
concept
seresh
and,
if
you'd
be
comfortable
at
making
a
spreadsheet
to
share
with
us
and,
however
way
you
recommend
tracking
it.
The
kubernetes
community
repo
has
a
list
of
all
the
sigs
right
and
we
can
just
start
putting
dates
on
it.
That
will
keep
us
busy
for
the
next
year
or
two.
A
C
I
was
gonna
say
another
thing
that
you
should
think
about
too,
though,
like
thinking
about
it
like
and
at
least
at
an
even
higher
level
and
like
where
matt
is,
where
matt
is
going,
which
is
like
focusing
on
one
single
week
and
then
what
you
can
do
is
you
can
actually
even
add
more
value
and
like
make
sure
that
they
have
a
blog
out
make
sure
like.
C
So
it's
like
really
more
of
like
a
sig
spotlight
right,
because
then,
then
you
can
actually
even
make
measurements
against
that,
whereas
like
if
it's
more
blanket
and
more
more
brand
awarenessy.
C
If
you
will
it's
like
harder
to
measure
so
like,
if
you
pick
if
you're
picking
a
single
week
or
maybe
even
a
sig
bi-weekly,
you
could
make
sure
like
you
could
be
the
one
that's
responsible
for
saying.
Okay,
do
they
have
they
had
like
a
recent
blog
post
about
themselves
kind
of
like
okay?
Where
do
they
want
new
contributors?
You
know
like
that
kind
of
you
can.
You
could
probably
do
like
an
intake
session
and
the
cool
thing
for
that
with
you
is
that
it
will
help
you
grow
too.
C
As
a
contributor
yourself,
because
you'll
figure
out
like
more
about
the
and
then
that
can
help
you
to
communicate
that
to
others,
because
there
is
a
lot
of
ambiguity
here.
So
so
I
guess
my
tldr
is
like
think
bigger
than
just
the
tweet
right
think
about
think
about
the
sig
and
the
the
sig's
branding.
If
you
will
so
that
was
mine,.
B
So
I
mean
if,
if
I'm
getting
this
right,
so
for
example,
so
signal
might
have
some
major
issues,
so
some
so
signal
team
might
need
some
people.
You
know
to
focus
on
certain
things,
so
I
should
be
yeah
I
I
should
be.
You
know
tweeting
about
this
as
well
right.
So
okay,
so
think
note
might
need
people
on
certain
particular
things.
So
yeah
people
people
might
be
needed
on
these
things.
So
I
should.
C
C
You're
also,
then
providing
value
specific
value
to
node
and
the
community
instead
of
just
saying
oh
nodes
meeting
today
for
two
hours,
you're
saying
nudes
meeting
today
for
two
hours
by
the
way,
they've
got
this
really
cool
cubelet
thing
going
on
and
you.
B
C
That
because
you
talk
to
them
and
then
you
can
even
say
oh.
C
Blog
post
that
I
wrote
about
the
cubelet
so
like
it's
kind
of
like
you,
know,
you're,
giving
the
reader
that
kind
of
you're
giving
them
a
call
to
action,
you're,
also
giving
them
a
more
information
to
read
and
then,
like
then
they're
gonna
want
to
engage
right.
C
So
then,
that's
when
you're
like
come
to
come
to
the
meeting
or
come
to
the
sig
channel,
or
you
know
the
sig
slack
channel
or
what
have
you
so
think
about
it
as
like
a
journey
and
not
necessarily
a
tweet,
because
if
you
think
about
it
from
like
a
tweet
perspective,
then
that's
when
it
gets
kind
of
like
robotic
when
you're.
Just
like
there's
here's
a
meeting,
it's
in
two
hours
hears
of
hears
of
this
in
two
hours.
C
A
You
know
twitter
is
just
this
combo
of
a
fire
hose
of
info
and,
like
some
people,
love
that
and
but
like
also
yeah,
that
sense
of
brand
connection
for
sure
I
think
we're
killing
it
on
the
brand
connection,
though,
like
because
people
want
to
self-identify
as
kubernetes
contributors
so
like
if
we
say
like
hey,
you're,
kubernetes,
contributor
and
part
of
being,
that
is
showing
up
to
a
meeting.
Here's
a
meeting
going
on
show
up
like
that
sort
of
call
to
action
like
it's
it.
It's
really
back
to
swarosh's
original
point.
A
I
think
reminding
people
that
things
are
coming
up
like
gives
them
that
little
extra
nudge
of
like
oh,
maybe
I
do
want
to
join
that
today,
like
I
I'm
I'm
into
it
yeah
I
think
neutral
facts
are
boring,
but
like
we
don't
have
to
be
neutral,
we
can
be
a
little
pizzazzy
and
we
can
be
culturally
different,
depending
on
like
who
our
audience
is
in
in
the
time
zone.
We're
in,
like
I
sound
like
one
metric,
goofy
american
and
like
that,
doesn't
resonate
necessarily
with
everybody.
A
So
I'm
glad
that
we
have
a
strong
international
presence
in
this.
In
this
group,
so
that
we
can
not
be
you
know,
u.s
centric
in
that
approach,
so
really
thankful
for
both
of
you
being
here
and
different
perspectives
across
everywhere.
A
A
I'm
really
happy
to
have
that
if
you
want
to
kind
of
get
credit
for
it,
if
you
will
like
in
in
our
community
opening
an
issue
in
k
in
the
kubernetes
community
repo
and
that
way
we
can
track
your
progress
and
then
when
we
eventually
want
to
get
you
merged
in
as
a
contributor
to
kubernetes,
like
we
have
a
record
of
the
stuff,
you've
been
up
to
just
kind
of
helps,
with
the
broader
ecosystem,
so
yeah,
so
I'd
recommend
opening
an
issue
there,
which
should
be
which
you've
done
before
cool
and
then
rajula.
B
I
just
added
the
lines,
the
one
you
said,
the
github
actions.
I
just
added
what
you
said.
A
Okay
yeah,
I
was
thinking
from
the
blog
to
twitter
and
you're,
saying
from
kate
from
the
dead
mailing
list
into
that
was.
C
C
I
was
thinking
I
was
taking
rss
for
I
was,
I
was
doing
slack
messages
for
something
else.
So
that's
when
I
was
playing
around
with
it
and
I
was
like.
Oh,
I
wonder
if
I
can
do
this
for
kdev
and
I
did,
and
so
I'm
thinking,
if
you
want,
you,
can
make
your
life
easier
and
like
ask
the
slack
and
for
folks
if
we
can
take
the
like
rss
feed
and
every
time
that
there's
a
new
email
just
hits,
it
hits
kdev
because
I
mean
it's
the
same
population
of
people
right.
C
So
if
I
write
an
email
to
kdev
and
it's
like
steering
committee
election,
then
it
would
hit
then
it
would
automatically
hit
and
you'd
get
like
a
pop-up
in
kdev.
That
said,
there's
a
new
email
about
the
steering
committee,
election
click,
click,
the
google
group
or
whatever
that's
just
one
idea,
but
there's
a
ton,
I'm
sure.
So
I
just
I
just
put
the
link
on
there
for
you
all.
If
you
want
to
use
it
great,
if
not
awesome
too.
C
A
Totally
yeah
I
mean
I
I'm
definitely
open
to
it.
I
would
love
to
see
what
it
looks
like.
I
don't
I
don't
know
you
know
I
I
know
twitter
can
accept
as
much
frequency
as
an
email
list.
That's
for
sure,
it's
just
like
the.
How
do
we
filter
out
like
the
plus
one
type
things,
because
that
could
be
a
little
noisy.
C
For
sure
it's
almost
like,
I
think,
maybe
just
every
it's
all
like
only
the
fresh
emails,
but
I
don't
know
how
you
would
find
out
what
the
fresh
emails
are
in
an
rss
feed.
I
haven't.
B
C
Thing
yeah
the
the
origination,
email
and
that's
it
totally.
That's
yeah!
So
if
I
I'll
find
that
because
I've
been
looking
at
other
rss
feeds
I'll
see,
if
I
can
see
that
it'd
be.
D
C
B
A
A
I
don't
think
yeah
github
action
would
set
us
up
with
a
pr
and
that
would
take
clicking
yes.
So
this
would
be
the
end-to-end
automation
that
so
I
I
misunderstood
is
the
short
version.
A
Oh
good,
I
think
that
gets
us
through
quite
a
bit
of
info.
There
are
definitely
some
open
issues
with
tags
for
community
and
for
contributor
experience
and
for
contributor
comms,
but
I
don't
think
any
of
these
are
urgent
for
this
scene.
So
be
take
a
look
through
comment
on
them.
As
you
have
ideas,
we
don't
have
to
do
it
synchronously,
since
we're
coming
up
to
the
top
of
the
time.