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[SIG-ContribEx] Contributor Summit 2020 Planning

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Hello, everyone and welcome to uh meeting number two of the virtual contributor celebration meeting for 2020. today is wednesday november 18th. It is 7am eastern time and we are just going to get right into this. As a general reminder, this is a recorded call and we all abide by the cncf connect which essentially boils down to please be excellent to each other. Everyone here is well versed in that, so, whatever yep, uh I have pasted a link to the notes and agenda.

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There isn't anything in there like as agenda items, but we do want to sort of go through the timeline of things uh to do. um Allison you just added a reg update.

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Want to start off with that, because we're off to a really great start. We sent out the reg last friday. um It was kind of group effort of getting like this. The website done and the mailing list done and hitting the send on the email like thank you, bob, jeff and and george for helping out um and we've got 46 responses so far nice and it's only like the style of kubecon, I'm just just just putting that out there like.

B

I, I definitely gage this potentially maybe double fight the same time next week like depending on like the velocity and how we get the word out there to the right people, um because, as like we mentioned before, we didn't really want to broadcast this out on twitter. Just for the concern of like we might end up with like a bunch of people who aren't really kind of community in there, and it might.

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Of like make people feel kind of uh ah yeah kind of to describe it, but yeah. That's an update on the reg um other things that we'll need to do regarding registration is we'll, probably need to be doing some sort of keyword filtering or something on the sign up, activity, sign ups and suggestions.

B

Just so, we kind of can figure out like where our groups are like destiny, 2 among us and all that.

A

Right but I can say, I've been looking at them and most people have literally just been putting in the little comments, even just like suggest activities as a few examples. Here's here's some and people just put in the examples that are listed there.

D

When I, when I looked last, it was like all right, so everyone wants to play among us. This is going to be great, like there were so many people that put that down.

E

Good, uh you just reminded me something I think we should put on the timeline a week like for our last announcement. We should remind people that these games are big like if someone shows up and they're like I'm ready to play destiny 2. How do I install steam they're not going to have a good time.

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So that's sort of the like you know in the items uh where we list the activities. Okay, like we have links to the various installers and things like that. There yeah.

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For at least uh like among us- and I think, okay, animal crossing- I just linked to the store, the the which okay store, but we do yeah. We do want to try and get at least some of that stuff posted uh today or tomorrow before we send out a second set of comms gotcha.

E

Who's setting the next set.

D

You're setting the next way.

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Who's sending the next.

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For next week we have com's message to k. Devs slash leads, can we can we actually item this.

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Allison you want to do it together with me.

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Yeah I'll, do you, george.

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uh Roger you should also respond back to the leads thing, correcting the uh who sent out the yeah.

E

I I will do that today, so allison, I uh I should have credited you, but I instead credited bob. I was like if you're confused, check out bob's email to k devs and it was actually yours. So I need to respond to myself and linked here actually.

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That email was.

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Also set for the leads.

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Which one? Oh, the allison.

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Just I'll recursively yeah, just just.

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You know just send them a command, and you know the search and replace.

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When I, when I finally can log into outlook this morning, I will I will, I will.

D

Yeah so you're taking the day off yeah.

E

Like 37 factor off, don't worry I'll, get it before 10am. So, okay, we'll work on that and then there's a few things that I also want to send on that email. So I'll work with you on that.

A

All right, uh the other thing is, we did ask uh if people were interested in hosting anything a couple. People have tossed items in there, uh so we will need follow-up with those uh with those people. um Realistically, I don't think like. I think someone wanted to host a mini cube workshop for like south america or something like that. I don't think there's.

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That much interest in those, so it might just be some point like hey um uh you.

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Know we're not working this weekend right.

B

Yeah, I feel like we could kind of group some of the stuff over here. Like you know, just like the person who said like I'm, sharing something about first virtual community kubernetes community days, we can give them like a short, like kind of spot, to talk about that. Probably, along with, like you know, the mini cube person. If we can get them to elaborate a bit more like they can share a little bit of what they. This kind of all falls under like mini conference e kind of thing,.

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Is not a conference.

B

This is not a conference, though yeah, so it's kind of like awkward, because we're just.

C

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Gonna have to like do the turn people down thing. I don't like doing.

C

Yeah, can we have a channel activity like maybe trying to have something like getting started channel.

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Like 101 between mentor and mentee, right, like only two people.

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And we give them a channel and they go and have a good time. What like that's right, it's not.

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A loss, kind of thing.

E

Yeah I mean I don't want to work.

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D

Good point: um maybe we should sorry I'm popping it up, because I don't remember offhand: maybe we should have a nevermind. There is a help channel I'll shut up. Thank you.

A

I'm ahead of you there. Thank you, as the help channel is also open uh to people that are not verified, um and it's mostly just like hey for some reason. Yeah db is not verifying me.

D

I was also thinking like help. I'm getting this weird error with a beaver. How do I play destiny? 2.

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I'm just going to be like george.

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I think that will probably wind up staying in the like destiny. 2, like.

D

For some reason I can't log into steam. You know just like the the in general help yeah. We.

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However, we can.

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I'm pulling up the the sheet now with some of the other, so we did ask you know if you're interested in running a workshop, hackathon or other sort of cigar group activity. So that's sort of why some of those came up just think like people do want to do something.

D

So I mean I'm looking at this and it's like I'll just go over it. Quick, no potentially, let me know not sure about running but we'll participate, probably not, but I'd love to talk about security uh working with minicube, preparing sharing about the central america kubernetes days like there's, there's not a whole lot of hard commitment. It's just like you know. I could yup.

D

Go ahead, go for it. I was just gonna say and if there's if the choice is between, you know someone that could or just not and having a far more you know loose and less technical party.

D

I'm gonna go for the last technical party. That's that's kind of our goal here. If someone on the like, if someone had responded. Yes, I had this awesome idea for x and I'm really interested in it hell yeah. Let's do it, you know like they. They are motivated, they are energetic, but none of these are like hard committing the exception of uh this person wants.

D

You know some comms boosting for their central america kubernetes days, which that's what we should do as well like promote the community, but I don't think they're looking to actually do a workshop. You know all right, I'm done talking.

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B

Where else could we.

D

I think if we were done with the reg update, the next was my thing or no.

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Bob slipped in before me.

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So, just as a general note at this point, literally as of this morning, I boosted the server to tier three. um So we have all the various features.

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um The one thing that, as a ai- I don't you know, doesn't necessarily have to be someone on this call, but we actually should try and get like the various like emojis synced from cabrini slack over to that I have it as, like. You know a timeline for a later item, um but it can, at this point, be handled really at any point in time.

E

Let's give it to let's give it to marco today time do it. I can't do that today or if arnold wants to do it.

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For for marco, I think the better follow-up would be to take the python script, that uh noah shared and adapt that, for our invites.

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Hey hey george.

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That's the next item.

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Got you so regarding the emoji, I did a quick, google and I found you can extract them from slack using some github script. Yes, just run a random github script. This will be fine, um and so we should be able to just eat them out.

B

um If you're, an admin of the your own team, you can get the list of emoji directly using the slack api, so yeah, someone with slack admin access can like run that script kind of thing or something and get all the emojis out, and we could probably then dump them into like discord. Pretty easy. This is just.

A

Again, discord does have a 500 emoji limit.

D

Oh we're screwed.

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But like these are the kind of things.

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We just need to grab the the most common like the most popular ones, like that we know. Like you know, this is.

E

Fine, this is fine yeah all.

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That all the fire ones like.

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Destruction cncf would handle. It needs to go.

D

Oh absolutely this.

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This emoji, oh.

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This yeah, the logos.

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Big projects well, then, again, if we did the logos of all the cncf projects, we would run out of emojis.

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Either way, let's bring something up, let's skip affiliations and stuff in the discord like. I know, people put their little company things, but if we have a 50 emoji limit.

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Oh 500. yeah, that might be.

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But yeah like I, we that's, this is kubernetes, let's focus on kubernetes um but yeah. So the.

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The only thing I might the projects are a good idea because we could, you know, have our affiliations with projects, because if we get some of the other oss friends such as like tyranny or lori- or you know that group- oh you work on kubernetes, no just have like the node.js logo or the electron js logo. Yeah.

E

I'm just concerned about a 500 thing limit. You know.

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Yeah and remember that these are emojis, these aren't profile badges. I.

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Know, oh okay, okay, okay, I was, I was reacting.

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There's an emoji.

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In in a profile, badge.

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Oh right, we can't in.

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Describe badges are a discord preset only.

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Wait how many emojis does kubernetes have.

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More than 500.

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I actually so someone actually uploaded like over a thousand different kinds of party parrots and I had to go through and remove them because, like we don't need that many party parrots.

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Allison, if you're ready to volunteer for the next emoji audit, that that's a thing please is.

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This the thing well kubernetes.

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Aside, like today, I was actually gonna, be messaging, admins, private and seeing who wants to slash needs to rotate out, because we have a couple people that want to rotate in.

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And we have slacker.

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Oh okay, all right! Well, we should talk yeah.

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Yeah, um as this requires slack admin to do uh for the the dumping of the emojis, essentially, which three of us wants to handle that I.

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Could I could do it with marco if you want just drop my name on there.

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Come on but jeff semi-related- I was thinking about this um so for the video marco cheppy runs like a silf road, which is a pokemon slack with like 50 000 people in it or something crazy. So I asked him to help us out.

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George quick question: do you want your um personal or work email for the test.

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I always work sorry, um george c, yet anyways that.

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Way, I can't read.

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It um and we were wondering, have we invited the slack admins if they want to do discord like? I don't want to speak for noah or anything, but I was wondering like we.

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We haven't yet and.

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That's actually on the list of things. That means that.

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There's a list of ais at the bottom that we need to go over because.

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Oh okay, let's do that then. Okay! Sorry, no! No.

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Let's make sure that this agenda is done, yeah yeah, um actually we're kind of done with this agenda. um Okay, is there anything else, timeline wise. um The peer award form.

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I have I have tons of updates, but this the last one I talked to I we need to turn off the video because it's a surprise, so just fyi.

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Well so jeez brain were we still sending out an award form for peers to nominate other peers, or were you going just metrics based.

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It's already been sent out.

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Yeah jesus- I am when we get to the awards section. I have a whole thing for you: jeff, don't worry, I've been I've been working. If.

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I put the coffee on my forehead while I absorb it yesterday: okay,.

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Get to awards, I have a whole update for everyone. Well,.

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Outside outside of um the automation of the invites, is there any other discord automation we need to discuss.

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Moderation. Moderation is already like taken care of the thing that needs to happen on that side is the documentation of the like how things are moderated like essentially fulfilling the the moderator fact.

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We're basically making a copy of that for us.

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Which I can do just not this week because I gotta the award stuff is time sensitive. I have to work on that right now.

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The moderator fact is mostly just like how to ban someone how to kick someone.

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Like a screenshot on how to report someone that kind of stuff.

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Okay, so that's uh that's for the attendee.

C

Because I saw on the dark of the bird, there are some kind of auto moderation and you can have blacklist world and uh whitelist world. So I was curious about how this is work.

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I am hesitant to do any like allow or deny list on words.

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I would rather just if someone reports like if someone says something that is uh out of context or you like that, that that we know is bad. A human can basically triage it.

D

It's a it's gonna, be a fine line, because again this is like meant to be casual. Social, also gaming, which you know this. The coc is very like cut and dry, but if we take the coc and try to apply it to a bunch of people playing games, online, less cut and dry.

A

If anyone plays league you're, there's going to be salt.

D

If anyone plays league with me, I will lose a friend.

E

Hey people are going to quit because they played sea of thieves with you, jeff.

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Okay, so just uh there are there's as far as like discord, automation, we're okay, we do need to.

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We do want to update the attendee faq and the activity list, preferably today or first thing tomorrow morning, us-wise, uh because we and also this gets sort of to your your uh point later.

D

Say you're pushing.

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The uh the main we we want to try and avoid sending out comms on a friday, especially a friday afternoon, us um just because it's it's harder to get more of the audience, especially if they are in apec and it becomes a weekend already yeah.

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So thursday is kind of the ideal time to get something out if we can to try and just get more more eyes on it and before we send out that sort of like update. um We want to try and have like more of the attendee faq posted more like actual activities posted, because that gives us a reason to send the the comms message out. If that makes sense,.

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Yeah, rather than just uh have you registered.

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So like next week, although it's thanksgiving for here in the us, so it might not be ideal to send something out um if we do send something out should be like early would be like hey we've added, you know more stuff to the fact more activities, um and ideally the walkthrough on on, like how someone would create the discord account and like essentially, we want to incrementally add more and more content. So we have reasons to email. The list.

D

If we we want to snowball, we want to just slowly roll the snowball down the hill, with more and more.

A

Yep, hey: we've heard your feedback. You know you all want to play among us. If you're we've added this the activity list, here's some information on it. You know if you want to get it, set up and installed, here's what you do and then, like george, if you have any of the other details on the trivia person and the actual like running of that event, yes,.

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Are you ready for the trivia status.

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um More so like it's like that'd, be a great thing to add, but yes, uh I will.

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Dump there I keep I'm just uh basically putting anything above the pure ward, thor thing, so we can cover that up, not recorded. I.

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uh So sure trivia status.

E

Okay, so the trivia game that we're doing uh devops party games or whatever you're trying to buy matty stratton. I don't know if you don't he's a red hatter and then he's got a friend um they can commit to our time, uh but one of them can't attend, but it ends up. I saw who was on their show and ian coldwater's been on the show a bunch of times already.

E

So I was pinging ian about other stuff. It was like hey. Do me a favor? Think of who would be great on this panel because we need to have funny people on there. So when everyone's participating, like uh you know, because we're gonna have limited times that we can run this. So ian is all in they're, gonna, co-host and everything with them, and they already have a list of funny people in mind.

E

That's nice and diverse, and you know, checks all those boxes and everything so they're going to work directly with maddie on kind of putting together a little agenda. um I would love for them to do it twice one day like the wait, friday's the prep day right or it's thursday, the prep day.

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So thursday we open up like invite.

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People can join, we aren't running any like official activities right so friday. We do official activities. Yes,.

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So I told them hey be great. If you could have do one, if you could do two, even better um so we'll let them do that so ian's also helpful. I'm gonna make the questions a little bit more kate, specific and not so generally devopsy. So I'm feeling really good about the ideas that we have going on there because we came up with some like funny things to do um for them. So trivia is going good. Does anyone have any questions on that.

D

When can we lock down when it will happen? Let me rephrase will.

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Know the exact days and times in within two weeks.

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We can know as soon as you tell me a schedule, so I could tell them hey, can you do it this time? Do we have.

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Like easy enough.

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Schedule we will want to hold off on updating to like probably the week before,.

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Okay right, I've told them all all three days, though so they know it's in that window.

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One thing the one thing I'd say bob is for that sort of like external dependency. We should probably get that locked down a little bit sooner. Yeah.

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Yeah, I'm more meant, like posting the schedule too,.

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Okay, okay, yeah, all right, I'm talking to them today, still on email, it's still an ongoing conversation, so I will do you want me to go? What time do you want to go on friday and then have them tell us, or do you want me to give them a window.

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Because they and they usually have like a schedule on the show.

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Isn't the schedule at like 9 00 p.m? Central time.

E

uh I need to check, I don't know like what time do would we want to run it? Basically, I guess is mine. If.

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If we were doing two different days, I would be okay with like a 9 p.m: central friday and like a 9 a.m. Oh so we.

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Both yeah exactly got.

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You all right so office hour style, offset scheduling, yep.

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Right I'll ask for that.

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Otherwise, I would probably go for like noon okay, friday or saturday, just because that's not too late for eu. That's not.

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Early for west coast got you.

E

Okay and then the only other thing that they asked is we run these normally on our own twitch channel? um Do you want us to do that or do you have your own twitch channel that you're going to stream to.

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We are doing everything through the youtube: the kubernetes.

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So we should either have someone you me short, someone able to stream it and just idle in there or.

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Okay or give them access you.

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Know whatever yeah.

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If they want to also simulcast or whatever that's absolutely cool got you okay,.

E

But we for sure want the youtube stream, though right so yeah.

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The the main reason like if we wanted to obtain a kubernetes twitch like the project, doesn't have a twitch account yeah.

E

And yeah: that's just creating work for ourselves.

A

We've done, we've also done all our all our streaming on youtube.

E

Yeah yeah, the only reason I was thinking their twitch is. They have an audience already but and there's some overlap with the kubernetes audience. But it's not but yeah right like if we.

D

Restream to both I'd be okay with that, okay, but any any activities that we're streaming. I would say a requirement is on our youtube: got you and then the last.

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The cncf could also, like you, know, rebroadcast on their twitch if they wanted to.

E

Yeah, okay, all right and then the last bit is the only inconvenience is the panelists that are going to be on. The show will have to join their pr their discord because that's how they do comms during the video game without doing whatever. But that's only going to be a handful of people that are on the show, and I can handle that with them so that they're all set and all right. I just want you to be aware that they have those people who we put on. The panel will have a little bit of extra.

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Something I'll walk them through it.

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Something else uh the people that we put on the panels. That's all pre-selected right.

E

Yes, we have people in mind and we're going to ask them ahead of time. Yeah we're not going to go hey. Let's.

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Have a popularity.

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Contest to see.

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So, as other people have asked about trivia and participating in trivia, what should we do with that group.

E

That is a good question. Let me loop it. Let me loop in the end and figure out what we want to do.

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It I like I'm perfectly alison.

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uh Regarding regarding trivia and doing trivia, I imagine like the flow would go on the first day when everyone's signing up they'd join like a trivia channel and they'd register their interest via a bot or something would that be okay,.

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Yeah as long as we sort them before, we go live yeah. Let me yeah.

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Learn an email.

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Chain with the with people who I.

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I am interesting questions.

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Am also perfectly fine like with the stream being because it's not so it's not exactly trivia. It's it's! The jack box games, essentially with kubernetes flavored questions, so yeah.

B

It's probably it.

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Probably shouldn't be called trivia: uh okay,.

B

Yeah yeah that that's confusing yeah, definitely yeah.

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Do we want to call it like the.

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Kubernetes jack box.

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Yeah, because we're going to rename it we need to rename it now. Otherwise we're going to keep calling it trivia. Then people will get it can.

D

We just call it the most extreme kubernetes challenge and then bob and I can be uh what is it uh blankenship and you know what I mean yeah.

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Go get dressed up.

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Mac most extreme kubernetes challenge.

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Kenny blankenship and vic, romano and george, you can be ghee ladouche.

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You know I just got into that show I am so down. Oh.

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Outfit and all that stuff.

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All right and susan just messages me yes, gee here.

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Okay, all right: let's do this because I have to work this morning. Okay,.

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um So I'm perfectly fine with calling it the most extreme kubernetes challenge, but we, we should still have have trivia that people can act actively participate in, though I.

D

I agree and I'm curious if there you know this might roll back up into discord automation. Is there a discord bot that could do like hey we're going to live stream? You know kubernetes trivia,.

E

Take your work item jeff and get out of here.

D

All right, this is just I at yeah,.

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We might need to ask you know someone hey: does someone want to be the trivia master, that's unrelated to the most extreme kubernetes challenge.

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There's also like.

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Traditional you.

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Know I, like you.

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Trivia bot and then people answer the question and like a mod like takes the right one or whatever, like checks. The winner and people earn points, and then we like yeah, that's.

D

Exactly what I'm thinking yep.

B

We're on the same wavelength.

D

And that that if we can get something like that, going it'll also be pretty easy to populate with questions and then.

E

Yeah all right, I guess something: crowdsourceable triviabot, whatever the most user-friendly crowdsourceable community, wanted.

A

We we do um also the the bot by default has, like you know our version of like slash, meow and slash dog and like slash. Instead, it's a cat fact and dog fact: yeah, um there's other things that can also be enabled, uh such as.

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Card we uh cards against humanity.

B

Clean version of it with kubernetes devops against humanity, yeah.

E

With assisted cards.

B

With assisted cards and the and the bridget's cards as well, we've got to merge.

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Decks together, I.

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Just don't know if there's a way of loading custom decks into it. Yes,.

B

There's a csv file. I've read up on this.

B

I will I will look into this cards against humanity, but it's kubernetes and safe for work.

D

Well, I've just been highlighting and assigning.

E

Okay, good good, perfect.

A

We can turn these into an ai list after the fact.

D

Wow, apparently, I need to assign ais to myself, otherwise I will completely forget about.

D

Them are, we is there anything else before we move on to? I want to go over previous action items because I need to scold myself.

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Let's do it all right, let's.

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A nap before I go back to work so tell me.

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Approach, slack mods for a call for help if they're interested in or interested we talked about that, but that was an ai from the last one. um George start the awards process. You did do that, so we can.

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Yes, I I'll talk at the end about that.

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Yep uh bob to merge registration activities forms into one that happened bob and jeff to finalize any budget requests from deb cncf before end of week, which we did not and.

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Don't worry, deb has gone to monday because I wanted to go. Ask her questions for award money so.

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I thought it was the 30th.

E

Oh yeah, I'm sorry yeah the 30th. That's right! So.

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Mondays yeah.

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Yeah, um which is okay, george you're handling the award stuff I've just tossed, boosting the server to 30 on my personal credit card. For now it's a hundred bucks.

B

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I will I will submit reimbursement to cncf because, like I already messaged chris he's just like just what do you want me to do like how much money do you need so yeah.

D

So what I'm hearing is bob is currently doing the less grossman dance from tropic thunder.

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um Do we want to do any swag? Let me let me just ask that: do we want to do any swag that people can opt into? I have my opinion, but I.

E

Have my opinion as well, but I'll go less.

A

uh The only thing I was thinking was potentially giving away like cncf t-shirt codes.

E

Absolutely we have the emails. We have to see ncf to make a form letter, give everyone a code, everyone's self services, in the store.

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Not every attendee.

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It's it's just, uh you know, like you know, for trivia and other random things. Yeah.

D

Depending on how nice the cncf wants to be, I would also be okay like every couple hours. Here's a giveaway, absolutely.

E

With the water.

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There's something.

E

More expensive yeah we.

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Do have there is a giveaway, but I believe.

E

All right, all right, so the action item is configure the giveaway.

D

um Since I failed to do this before deb disappeared, this will be me and I'll actually assign it to me.

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Take that and ensure to take full advantage of marco.

D

How am I taking advantage of marco here, like.

E

He does all the he can help you with all the discord stuff be like hey, go, investigate a giveaway bot. We want to do giveaways and then give him some time and then come back.

A

Since he he's essentially an admin of like another server with like 60k people in it or something.

E

Yeah the number keeps going up but yeah, I don't remember, we have someone who who's modded big large discords before so we should just take advantage of it.

A

And and written discord, bots.

E

Yeah all right well.

C

E

Like whatever you all need done, just let me know because that's the way he contribute, but he just can't show up to meetings or anything like that. So.

D

I'm down with that all.

E

A

Okay, um are we done through any, like all the recorded.

D

Items we're done with the agenda is there we can talk about different activities next time. Okay, I.

E

D

Done it's also like 20 till okay,.

A

So I'm going to stop recording, so we can start talking other stuff.