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[SIG ContribEx] KCSNA 2023 Planning for 20230807

A

Good morning, everyone happy Monday. It is Monday August 7th. uh We are well underway with planning our lovely lovely contributor, Summit I'm, stoked that you all are here stoked, as you all are working on this with us um and in the spirit of friendliness. Let's bear in mind the code of conduct where you.

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A

Let's just be nice to each other start our Mondays off on the right note or end our Mondays, depending on what time zone you're. In um a couple things today, we've got uh Laura who couldn't join us uh live because they are on a plane but uh will be available for communication through chat, and then we have Brienne who is in Atlanta uh today for a conference. So just bear those things in mind. As we get going, um I'm gonna drop the link again uh boom.

A

All right, uh some folks have to leave the 30 minute Mark, so we'll make sure to put your parts up earlier. um The biggest lead update that I have is I want us to just keep in mind. We do Retros, you know, and we do Retros for a reason, because we want to make uh the experience better the next time um and so I linked the Retro Dog from last year. uh We can go over it together next week if we want to, um but just wanted. The leads to.

A

Please have a look at the Retro Dock and see what uh what you might be able to incorporate to help us make this experience better and learn the lessons um Bob is asking if we should start a restaurant super early for this one I Am pro uh I Am pro adding a retro doc soon.

C

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um Yeah I'm I'm Pro that idea, so we can work on getting one set up uh and then yeah just checking ideas in there. So next week we'll have one uh that's available, uh pre, a pre-register. Okay, great awesome! Thank you! uh Bob is going to create one in the same directory as the note, so we should be all good there. I need help getting to that directory, um but we can do that.

A

Another time I feel like I can get to the files that I need like for sick contracts but like getting to the folder and looking at them. I am challenged. uh So, um let's see who said they have to leave early Xander does Xander. Where are you do you wanna?

A

You got any updates or any things you wanted to bring up for us. Yeah.

D

Just real, quick, so uh Joseph is not able to make this one this week, so he won't have anything to share for awards, but I just talked to him on slack um we're thinking, we're gonna go with the same design from last time, because we it looked good, but it also sounds like there was a lively discussion that that we should hear about um and then, in addition, I think we're gonna. It sounds like we're. Gonna go, the Google form route for for reaching out to Sig leads um yeah.

D

What should I know on on said Lively discussion from last week.

A

Yeah, who wants the Bible so basically the recording stopped last week, and then we were talking about Awards and then um yeah uh there yeah, who wants to had this one.

B

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Okay, one one idea was: uh you know: we had talked about the pizza Cutters um and like having like that and then like uh some inscriptions or doing some sort of novelty thing and then having like the words that were put up uh like a like a a certificate or plaque or something that could go on addition um and then I forget some of the other ideas. Y'all got to help me out.

A

I know we talked a lot about um uh uh aprons as well trying to pick uh the some ideas were shared for that, but yeah I, don't I, don't really remember what else we talked about I just remember. It was like protracted.

C

The aprons were more for um attendee swag. Yes,.

A

B

I think the only one that.

C

We talked about around awards was like pizza cutter, but pizza cutter, maybe not having enough space for text and then was like a bit up and down of like like people liked what they. What was there before and some people wanted something new yeah.

A

C

Not sure if he had any real reasons.

A

D

Custom Pizza Cutters and see how feasible it is just to get an idea and have that as an option and I'll I'll report findings on that next week, um yeah, okay,.

A

Sounds good, thank you um all right. Does anybody else have anything that they want to? Oh, yes,.

E

um Another idea there, what if we did pie Cutters instead of pizza Cutters since the it's a deep dish, so the Triangular cutter makes sense and then you'd have the whole triangle bit maybe to do engraving. Maybe it.

D

Also, depending on it might be easier for people to travel to get home yeah because uh right.

B

D

Am I do think there could be concerns with like handing people a weapon as an award and.

A

D

Go get on an airplane with this.

A

um That was part of the discussion for sure yeah.

E

There's another hand up by the way yeah.

A

F

Yeah, um it is I. We should never Bank on everyone being there to receive Awards. We have a lot of contributors who can't make it um so I think we should like default to whatever can be shipped anyway um versus well can be carried like on a plane. I, wonder I, don't know if this came up. I wasn't in the discussion last week, but um I mean. Would there be an issue that people would think that oh they're getting a smaller award?

F

So it means less because, like the uh um canvases were quite big I don't know if that would be a thing that translates out, but just a concern. I thought might come up. I, don't.

D

Know, yeah, yeah and I think it's something I would just look at and maybe do in addition to like. So so in talking with Joseph, we um definitely heard savitha's positive feedback last week on the canvas, and that was that was very nice and I. Think, like hearing that both of us are like well clearly like this is like a meaningful thing to community members to be able to have this like in their office, to see regularly um so I think yeah.

D

um In summary, we we heard and recognized that at our our weighting that appropriately.

A

Yeah- and that was that was part of the discussion where folks are saying like if it was just that, then it wouldn't be sufficient but like if it was an addition to like, maybe not like canvas but like a certificate that they could frame. You know or like something nice that also had the the messaging on it um all right.

A

um Anyone else have any thoughts they want to share I I, also just Googled um Chicago style pizza cutter, and what comes up is like this, like blade like this big that they used to like rock over the pizzas so like yeah. Maybe when we go back to the Javits Center, then uh we'll we'll do a pizza cutter for like New York style um but yeah all right, good to know good to know uh any other yeah amounts of an approximately that would be so sick I would look back and see.

G

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No that'd be great.

H

What can I say?

H

One last thing on the the plaque of us um and going back to being able to ship over a season all that the other Advantage the canvas Prince is we don't have to do any prep work, a vendor, produce it and handles the shipping and handles all the difficulties with oddly enough getting things to Canada um and and not us I I would I would recommend if we do want to go this go this route to pursue something that can be done that way like and when I say getting stuff to Canada.

H

It took us seven months to get some of the awards to people.

A

That's wild, oh, a print okay, cousin's saying uh they could do a drawing of a kubernetes pizza cutter for a print no harm in trying it. uh That would be sick, too. You know um all right always.

E

Good to have a backup, yeah.

A

And maybe that can be one of the prizes that we raffle off at the at the celebration right, uh if there's a sort of game or something like? Oh here's, a print. You know.

E

Also, last time me and Ray both did a few designs. So if anyone wants to just try a design, there's no harm in just drawing.

A

E

Up, maybe it'll be something everyone loves.

A

I would maybe try something. I would just need somebody to like charge it up a little bit because it will look awful, but you have somebody could.

E

Sign up for that like, if you want to just like, do a rough and.

A

E

I can polish it for you.

I

E

All for enabling more ideas if.

I

It's a print. We could actually get the seven-sided wheel exactly.

E

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That's true, that's very, very true.

F

But don't forget, there will be text so.

E

F

E

A print, then we could put the text like below it: yeah cool yeah.

A

Okay, oh I was thinking. This was like a just a piece of art that someone would hang like, not necessarily the like award kind of thing, um but.

E

It can also serve as a mock-up for what that could be yeah.

A

I agree: okay, awesome, I'm, I'm tracking, now, I'm with you got it all right, um cool uh Bob. You also have to leave for the meeting. Is there anything that you wanted to bring up before we hit the 30 minute mark.

H

uh I'm I'm, good, okay, so.

A

Well, let's uh roll through from the top, um so the updates from Brienne. We got two important docs posted to the summit uh staff, Channel and one being the registration form, which will be really helpful for our reg folks and then the other is the planning dock which other people have been uh waiting and asking about. So we've got that there um yeah they're ridiculous.

A

um Content do we have Kailyn here today it doesn't look like we do um uh so. Let's go to comms uh Avinash I dropped the link in there to the uh wait.

J

Wait just a second. We don't have Caitlyn here today, but has there been um do we know if there's been any progress in the cfp, so the goal was going to be to actually get the cfp out this week right.

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J

A good long time.

A

I, don't know that there has been any progress, um but it's something that we can definitely uh ping about and see if that's still uh something that will happen so like we should probably post something in the summit status and ask that directly.

J

Is Kaylin's Shadow here and I haven't looked up? Who that is.

A

Yeah, do we have anyone from content on the call.

J

Apparently, not I'll.

A

Take that as a no as well.

J

Okay, I'll follow up and ping them.

B

A

Right sounds good.

A

Okay, we do or I guess faika is here, but I don't know if they have any answers about uh what's going on with content, but we can um yeah we'll we'll post some follow-up um and see what we what we get.

C

All right, so maybe maybe also um the website right, um I- think the.

B

C

Is already up, but we could already put the website up. Okay,.

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C

Not sure if that's part of content these days or if it's just leads.

A

That's a good question: I, don't I, don't know.

H

But I'm not sure uh Mars opened the the pr.

A

Yeah I did see that go up um all right.

F

Pr Wrangler this week as well so feel free to send stuff to me. If need be, yeah.

J

Yeah, that's just gonna say actually that that is a a question that we haven't resolved, which is who is in fact responsible for the website um and and I guess it should be comes otherwise. We should actually have somebody who's specifically responsible for the website, which is a definite possibility.

J

um The um uh particularly somebody who hasn't been to a contributor some person before and wants a um an online role before they go to their.

I

First year or something last time, we split it between comms and the leads okay.

A

Yeah so I guess that's something that the leads can take up um for now and then we'll solidify.

A

It uh we'll add that to our brand new retro Doc is that we need to figure that out where that goes and then update a Playbook um accordingly, um and then we have an update in the chat um Kayla's not able to make it don't have any upcoming tasks, waiting for more details in the venue space and that should be available in the link that Brienne just gave us the planning doc um uh and the reg to open uh okay and then, once that happens, look at the venue space room.

A

So I see how many talks we would accept. Okay, great great great. So it doesn't like. The cfp may go out late this week, if it's going out this week, because we need to uh for content to be able to have time to go through the planning. Dock um and uh yeah see how many talks we can accept. Do.

I

We need to know how many we're going to accept before we open the cfp.

A

I guess not yeah, no, we don't. We can just accept based on yeah, that's fair. We.

I

Just we just need to know what the talk text will.

A

Be prior okay, Bob was saying actually recommended going out later is the steering kickoff is going to happen tomorrow for the steering election kickoff is going to happen.

C

A

Okay, so like what are we should you say later, we shooting for like Thursday, Friday or like next week. Okay, Thursday Friday.

H

All right either or like Thursday Friday or you know, Monday Tuesday next week. Okay,.

A

All right, um let's uh write that down.

F

I just want to pipe in again for the website stuff myself and Ray can approve those things as needed, so just send stuff to us as docs leads we're happy to get website stuff up. Asap.

A

Awesome um so what what needs to happen? We said: Mars opened the pr um what needs to happen there. I guess.

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B

We're ready for.

A

That to go live.

G

A few reviews, at least.

A

G

A

Sorry, one more time.

G

I need a few reviews. Basically, okay, yeah.

A

Awesome awesome awesome, awesome. All right. Thanks uh uh can we drop the link uh somewhere for that to that PR already done nothing else. Okay, awesome. Thank you. Trapping in the notes, under the anything else,.

A

All right, great great great great.

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K

Yeah so uh they've got the initial planning started draft email ready uh for review, uh so anybody who can remove uh they can and also we we wanted to clarify or maybe add, few details if uh or maybe highlight few particular areas in the team where they need Shadows or volunteers. So we can mention those things as well. I think day of apps was looking for those or maybe social.

F

Yeah I want to clarify one day of up stuff, so um we had it from last week we had a couple extra folks um sign up as as volunteers, and so I would say that the day of Ops, we probably don't need to do a call out for extra volunteers until a bit closer to the day when more people know that they're going to actually be definitely attending um so um I think Nigel. You had mentioned too that maybe like a call out for General.

F

Anyone want to help out might be the best Planet ahead right now, rather than specific areas.

J

um Actually I'm going to ask something which is: do we have any Shadow positions? Do we have any positions that currently don't have a shadow.

A

uh Looking at the issue, let me pull it up. I said that like I had the tab ready to go all right, yes, social doesn't have a shadow. Oh.

J

Yeah social does have a team of two people, but it could probably use a shadow too yeah. Oh, you still need to update that Nigel.

A

Yeah yeah yeah yeah I'm gonna do that now. What is the handle of the other.

J

Cc and some number okay, 37 CC 37.

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J

Yeah I'm just because I'm looking at avinash's email and it kind of focuses on shadows and I'm like I'm, not sure we have any Shadow positions: open: okay, the.

J

Because everything has at least one Shadow and a couple of things have two you know be up to.

A

Yeah and I think as well. It was just kind of like we had a. We always have a lot of interest from folks that don't have board membership or don't have a lot of experience around, and so it was more just to try to let folks know who have been around like hey. We could. We could use your help, you know because it like.

A

Sometimes we have the event happen, and then people who are there, like, oh yeah, I, want to help out next time but like being able to say hey, this is next time like. Please, please come through. You know.

A

But yeah I I'm open to to well the dock is open for suggestions. uh If Josh you want to add the feedback there or uh Avinash, we could maybe work on the framing a little bit to uh less about shadows and more about like hey. This thing is happening.

A

You all enjoy that this is the thing please get involved in making sure it keeps happening, because you know there's a lot of familiar faces that are here who have been doing this for like at least as long as I've been around and so yeah just getting more folks in so that we're not so reliant on the same people. Every single time.

K

Yep we can do that. uh Also, the website is going to go up. So do you want to go with the website when the web website goes up, we can send a mail uh about the event yeah.

A

I think that would be good, but do we need to work on any sort of language announcing that the website is live right, like is that gonna take more cycles for us to be able to do.

J

I mean we should, because that would that would fall into the heading of save the date email yeah, you generally do send it save the date email which we haven't yet and- um and we usually do that when we first put the website up I think we can actually combine this, because if what we're looking for is volunteers, yeah um for most roles, we don't really push on volunteers and go closer to the event.

J

So what if we actually put a page on the website, specifically about volunteering at the contributor Summit, attach it to a spreadsheet where people can sign up yeah um and, and so then we can sort of announce those both at the same time.

A

Yeah I I I get that, and my worry is that it gets pushed out too late, because my I think that what people see is that this is a big event. That requires a lot going on, and people aren't really around in the beginning parts to see how the deep dish pizzas get made right so like having people involved earlier, so that they can like see the mechanics and then be more interested in helping out because, like oh, it's not as hard as I thought. It was that's.

A

That's my thinking on it about getting it out earlier, so that we can get more people um just involved in the whole process, but I'm also very amenable to like. Let's just wait do the same date together and let people know that there's opportunities to get involved.

I

The corollary to that is making sure that we don't end up with the same problem. We had in Amsterdam, where we have a bunch of people sign up, and then they flake on us.

A

Yeah, how is it in um uh before that Detroit I wasn't at Detroit.

I

Detroit wasn't nearly as bad as we we didn't yeah, but call wasn't as open. No.

J

Yeah and and we kind of put together Detroit in a much shorter timeline, so.

B

J

Having enough people was definitely an issue but um having the people who had committed flanking was not an issue because they just volunteered five weeks before the summit, so yeah, um but but no I'm suggesting actually calling for volunteers as soon as we get the website up. Okay, all right and yeah yeah. So and and then, if somebody volunteers, we invite them to this meeting if they want to attend it and be part of the planning, because some people are going to be like hey I want to be sort of.

J

You know, part of the team and other people are going to be like no I just want to help out the day of the event. But I don't have time to think about this until then and leave it up to them.

A

I understood all right, understood, yeah, so let's focus on getting the site up, getting a page up for volunteers and um to deal with maybe some of the flakiness uh open it when we feel it's appropriate, but at least have something enough to say: hey look. We want you to be involved in putting this event on um and then getting having folks have more buy-in to the to the event itself.

A

um All right cool uh celebration in the test says you have no updates um all right. Do you want to say anything or do you want us to keep tracking.

A

I will take that as a keep truck um all right, Natalie uh Ops no updates rolling along with Ops handbook. Awesome, cool, uh reg updates um we're working on getting the site up. Should the site go under Rich, good question.

A

um Yeah, we'll we'll start it out later. uh Yeah did you have anything you wanted to say.

G

No, no I think we are good. um Okay. My only question is uh we usually invite Bob mention that we have to invite at city folks uh I'm, not sure how to do that properly, how to yeah.

J

Invite the hcd contributors- yes, oh okay, um I I, can give you a list.

G

Okay, great, thank you fantastic. Then we can I think we can go live basically, as it is right now is at City form, with current at city, with current registration form.

J

Yeah, the um yep and well and more importantly, we also I'll, also extract from Dev stats, a list of people who have 50 or more contributions than CD fantastic.

G

Thank you so much so yeah! Okay, if you can share their, how do you do it? It's the magic I can update the playbook for the next Summit I'm, not sure, maybe we'll it's.

J

The same way we do for kubernetes it's just a different Dev stats, subside, say: okay, okay, yeah yeah, okay,.

A

Is this okay? Are we rolling together, like the SCD contributor, Summit and the good uh yeah, okay,.

J

Yeah I mean I, guess it it'll be a little weird right because normally with the kubernetes folks, we limit it to org members right um and people who are not org. Members have to ask for an exception or ideally get their org membership actually in process, which is right.

B

J

Of the goal um I, obviously the NCD people and City people who are not already kubernetes contributors, which a bunch of them are um so I'm keeping in mind that that we're going to have like 60 overlap anyway, um I, you know, are obviously not yet eligible for kubernetes org membership, so we'll just go off of you know. Contributions to that CD.

A

Sounds good uh Natalie.

F

um Sorry to change the topic, um but I've just seen that Palin added in the summit staff that um the cfp is actually ready once people are ready to approve the dates, so I just want to get your attention. Yep.

A

Nice all right, then yeah I feel like we're good with the dates right.

F

Oh I do want to like just yeah note again um Bob's ask of like waiting till Thursday Friday, but if we approve the days I'm just kind of get ready, yeah.

A

Yeah all right, awesome, awesome, awesome, okay, cool cool cool, so yeah Thursday, Friday, then, um but uh approve the dates of the yeah okay I see uh cfp opens on Monday August. 8Th today is Monday August 7th.

A

um Okay, we would open it Kitty.

A

um We would open it. um What okay Thursday, okay, great great great, great, okay,.

B

A

Got it sorry, I'm a little scattered, I'm gonna post the link in the chat or the at least the dates in the chat, I'll post, the link as well. That makes more sense.

A

A

So we'll adjust the Thursday uh just to Thursday Friday or to Monday Tuesday next week, and then we should be good to go.

A

All right now uh reg do we have anything else on Reg. Are we good to get to move on? We.

G

Are good to move on, I think we're going to go, live.

A

Perfect um and then so, is that all gonna happen at the same time, the site reg uh the cfp on Thursday Friday this week.

G

um Sure all we can do, we get a good website live earlier, don't open, direct or regular Greek station earlier a bit earlier like tomorrow.

A

Okay, we just wanted to like what Bob was saying with the steering election stuff uh happening tomorrow, so like pushing it, so it didn't clash with that. Yeah.

J

We didn't announce on the same day: okay, um yeah I guess so one of the things is in the past. These have happened on different days and there's some advantage to that because it lets us effectively make you know two or three different announcements.

J

um You know save the date registration cfp.

J

um On the other hand, there's also an advantage to opening everything earlier.

C

A

G

um One thing in mind that a website is almost ready, but all the links are wrong. We have to update the links, put proper links for new registration and also update the links for cfp and also some other stuff. So, okay.

A

All right so then, what's your suggestion, Mars.

G

I would put a website earlier today tomorrow and then, when we have proper cfp links and proper registration form, we can just announce it to the to everyone like.

A

B

G

A

All right um so.

A

I see what you're saying so we just put it up and then don't announce it. Okay got you. Yes, let's do that um all right cool and then uh what do we have left to talk about, uh sing, meet and greet Laura again, not able to? Oh sorry, go ahead.

K

uh So we announced it together with cfp, the red, no.

A

No announcements happening right now: oh oh you're, saying register.

J

A

Yes, yes, yes, yeah.

J

The well actually here, I wanna, I wanna, ask this question: do we want to do a giant all-in-one because, like we have the ability which we haven't had before to make everything live to announce everything at once? Do we want to announce it at once? All at once, or do we want to have three announcements? You know like announce, you know: do save the date on Thursday, announce um uh cfp on Monday and registration on Tuesday um I.

J

The um uh the argument in favor of three announcements is that it's three chances to get people's attention and and um the argument against it is pretty artificial, since we do have everything ready at once. um The um I, but my worry about a giant big. All in one announcement is people, don't necessarily read all the way down, and so they might be waiting for a separate announcement. That say the cfp is open.

B

There is also the risk of three separate announcements that it's easier to to miss one of those or to think oh I, already I already saw this announcement I'm just going to delete this message, because it's just another duplicate.

A

The uh yeah I I, like the all-in-one announcement and just in the subject line, we can say the three big things and do a tldr right at the beginning. It's like hey. This is open. This is open. This is open and then all of the the body.

C

In in a way, are we even still at three if, if the registration opens, when we call for save to date, it's not a safety date anymore right, it's just the registration. So it's two yeah.

J

So it would be more. The the first announcement would be simply uh contributor some of the details yeah. So it's not really save the date. It's just it's just the details are up. The website is up, you know if you were, if you were wondering uh here, it is you're still alive.

A

Okay, all right do we have Clarity. Are we like good to go.

J

Well, particularly avenich, do we have clarity? Yes, since you're gonna have to do this? Yes,.

A

Okay, cool cool cool cool, all right um for the sigma in Greek. Do we know when we have to have the name change in by I guess this is more to do with updating the sketch for kubecon.

J

Yeah um we can update the schedule pretty late. What's actually going to be more of the limitation, is they generally make a sign for us and, and so that'll be like two to three weeks out from the conference that we'll have to decide?

J

um Obviously, if we decide earlier it's better because that means that everything, including the the event site, can have the new name as early as possible and get people used to it.

A

Okay, I put out the latest two to three weeks from the conference and then uh any notes on the Sig buttons.

A

um In that discussion about whether we want to get those to folks early, we talked about a couple weeks ago, like the difference in doing buttons versus the ribbons, and then we said we want to do buttons. This time use up the inventory that we have and maybe consider ribbons for another time.

A

um But uh what do we have any notes on that or I guess that? Maybe those are the notes on the discussion. I should probably just write that down.

A

Do we want to have oh, do we want to have the buttons at the contributor Summit, or do we want the buttons to be just for the handed out of the Sig meet and greet?

A

Do you have any thoughts on that.

E

When we synced with Laura on that, she said that they were not given out of the contributor Summit that they were traditionally just given up out at the segment in Greek.

A

But that was the thing that we talked about was like. Oh and people get ribbons, and we can see them all week or like people would be able to see the buttons that folks had at the conference um and show interests or come to the sign, meet and greet from seeing the buttons puya.

C

I do remember: there was a contributor Summit, where we had the buttons early already already like on tables, because we also had sick meetings, sometimes at the continuous Summit, or was that when we still had the full meet and greet integrated, no.

J

No, we um the um they brought the case to the um the common area for Amsterdam.

C

J

Been pretty standard for um uh Brienne to bring the case to the contributor Summit for people to grab buttons from.

E

I think that makes sense I'm also in favor of buttons over ribbons, because people reuse them. Like me, I reuse, mine, a lot.

A

All right cool uh uh done: we want to have buttons at the summit, all right, great, great, great, great great um Awards we had was Xander uh swag um yeah updates. I can probably get some funding uh through Intuit. Hopefully we will make a proposal and send it in to help fund this. uh We should plan for 300 t-shirts, um that's uh coming from Bob.

A

Where we talked about you know what likely attendance will be to the contributor Summit, but also the fact that if they're a contributor, they should be able to get a shirt even if they're not able to attend uh the contributor Summit itself because of all the colos and everything like people should be able to come and grab a shirt if they, if they need to.

A

um So we want to plan for 300 shirts. So we should use that in the budget talk to figure out how much we have uh how much we have left all of that stuff um great and then we got caslin's lovely design of the deep dish pizza with the kubernetes logo on it.

A

um Did you want to say anything about that.

E

Yeah so yeah I'm glad the people are excited about it.

E

I'm enjoying it uh so I do need to know how many colors we are limited to for the t-shirts. This is currently five colors I.

B

E

Probably bring it down by one but I, don't think I could go down to three which I feel like is usually, though yeah.

J

um Amsterdam Amsterdam was five colors, um so you can do five. um Obviously, there's always a t-shirts. Fewer is better.

A

um I would like to make one note uh with uh Chicago pizza: toppings don't go on the top; they go in the on the inside. That's.

E

What I thought yeah.

A

It's just it's just sauce on the top. It's always just sauce on the top. So if we want to do pepperoni, we can stick them in the sides. uh If that's possible, no okay.

J

It wouldn't be, like you think, about this being reproduced in a t-shirt. That's been washed like four times yeah. You wouldn't be able to tell what it was. Okay.

A

That's fair. That's.

J

E

The pepperonis were a proposal from uh Tim Bannister this morning, so I tried it out to give it a mock-up, see what people thought. That's what I figured was the case. So probably just go with the cheese.

A

I am very, very Pro the cheese um and we just like it's vegan for our Brethren, which we can't say for uh for pepper, I, guess you say: pepperoni chips like you.

J

Know yeah, but wow. It just occurred to me that Vegan Chicago pizza is probably a thing. These days.

F

J

It's kind of a stunning.

A

Concept we'll find out at Giordano's soon, yeah give him a couple months. I'll have an answer for you um all right, great I love these, and so this, so you were saying caslin uh for the this is for the shirt or for the aprons.

E

For the shirts and.

F

I

E

Aprons I was thinking, maybe the pizza cutter, which is why I was thinking I needed to mock that up anyway or.

A

Last year now.

E

With this uh chopped, Pizza carry boxes, idea, which I'm very into I'm thinking I, might try the pizza in a box with one of those big Cutters with like little holes in the side, so that you can do it. While it's on the box yeah, so I might try mocking that up which will be much more complex and then the words um chop Pizza carry boxes underneath it so I'll. Try that too and I'll try the pizza cutter all.

A

Right sounds good: um okay, yeah uh Sean linked us here, the best vegan pizza in Chicago. So we do have vegan options. um Yeah there you go there. You go um all right great and then we're down to our anything else, section uh which I have the pr for the site link there. Please go review the pr, so we can get that site up and running and then we'll add the links and plan to do the comms out on Thursday or Friday. To let folks know hey all the stuff is available. Does that sound good?

A

Are we aligned all right great great, great, great great great? um Does anybody have anything else? They want to say.

A

All right well, thank you all so much uh I'm gonna stop the recording.