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A
All
right,
everybody
welcome
to
the
sig
Doc's
meeting.
Today's
date
is
May.
21St
is
a
beautiful
Tuesday,
my
name
is
Jim
angel
and
I
will
be
hosting
today's
meeting.
I'm
thinking
today
might
be
a
relatively
light
meeting
due
to
the
many
attendees
in
Barcelona,
but
we
will
do
our
best
to
relay
any
messages
to
them
and
then
catch
up
with
them
the
next
day.
So
with
that,
let
me
start
off
by
asking:
is
there
anybody
who
was
brand
new
to
contributing
to
sig
ducts
or
anyone
new
to
the
team
wanna
introduce
themselves.
B
A
A
All
right
so
some
updates
or
reminders
the
PR
Wrangler
for
this
week
is
Peter
Zhao
I.
Put
that
note
in
the
agenda
and
then
the
PR
Wrangler
next
week
is
Tim
Zhang.
Also
in
the
agenda
there
I'm
not
sure
if
we
have
Barney
on
the
call.
Let
me
double
check.
I,
don't
think
I
saw
him,
but
I
did
notice.
He
updated
the
agenda,
notes
with
a
115
release
team
update.
Is
it
nothing
much
still
getting
folks
to
open
their
draft
PR
as
their
approach.
A
B
Yes,
certainly
so
I
was
speaking
to
a
row
yesterday
and
there
was
quite
a
lot
of
discussion
at
the
table
around
the
localization.
If
it's
the
being
undertaken
and
I
asked
him,
is
there
something
that
native
English
speakers
are
able
to
do
in
some
way
that
they
may
have
may
be
able
to
help
for
localization?
B
And
if
it's,
and
so
whether
that
was
being
somebody
that
people
can
speak
to
around
clarifying
difficult
English
wording
or
whatever
or
you
know
it
came
up
in
a
conversation
around
I,
guess
the
reach
of
that
of
the
docks
and
also
how
you
know
with
with
the
localization.
If
it's,
if
you
know,
facilitates
adoption
around
the
world,
so
it
was
within
that
context.
So
that
was
that
was
the
basis
of
it.
A
Awesome,
yeah
I
think
it's
a
really
great
idea
and
definitely
some
of
my
involvement,
the
localization
efforts.
I,
don't
want
to
say
it
appears
to
be
all
over
the
place,
but
from
a
native
English
speaker,
it's
hard
to
really
get
involved
at
a
deeper
level
on
beyond
beyond
initially
but
I'm
interested.
If
anyone
else
on
the
call
has
any
other
thoughts
on
that.
A
You're,
nothing
I'm,
happy
I'm
happy
to
share
my
feedback.
I,
just
don't
want
to
be
the
only
person
talk
in
here.
I
definitely
think,
there's
a
there's,
a
coordination
effort
there
zach
has
done
an
amazing
job
at
coordinating.
How
that
looks
like
to
onboard
new
languages,
but
but
I
do
think
that
there
could
be
I,
don't
want
to
say,
contributor
experience.
A
They
can
Trebek's
type
approach
to
onboarding
the
localization
teams
and
seeing
him
through,
but
maybe
a
somewhat
of
a
smaller
version
of
that
I
know
we
have
some
guidelines
outlined
for
what
localization
looks
like,
but
taking
that
a
step
further
of,
where
do
you
go
to
get
help
and
then
having
those
pieces
translated
in
their
native
languages?
You
know
I,
think
it'd
be
a
cooperative
effort
and
I
think,
especially
for
cig
Docs.
A
The
important
piece
would
be
finding
finding
someone
who's
bilingual
and
whatever
the
two
language
they
can
connect
the
dots
on
as
well
as
understand,
kubernetes
and
I.
I
fear
it
might
slowly
be
a
funnel
problem
or
you
have
people
understand
kubernetes.
It
gets
smaller
for
a
different
specific
language.
It
gets
smaller
for
bilingual
and
I.
Think
we
might
have
a
issue
discovering
that,
but
I
think
the
the
I
think
the
concept
is
very
noble:
I
guess
it's
desirable
to
make
it
a
lot
easier
for
the
localization
efforts
to
be
successful.
A
I
mean
the
more
successful
they
are.
The
more
successful
qu
Bernays
will
be.
The
more
successful
approach
will
be
so
I
definitely
see
value
and
in
connecting
that
and
I
think.
What
we
might
want
to
do
is
reschedule
this
agenda
item
for
next
week,
when
you
have
a
little
bit
heavier
attendance,
and
actually
next
week
might
be
the
Asia
Pacific
meeting
I.
A
Think
if
I'm
not
mistaken,
which
is
the
fourth
Wednesday
of
every
month
or
fourth
Tuesday
of
every
month,
and
so
that
means
it
might
unfortunately
get
pushed
out
to
weeks
just
to
get
maximum
attention.
I
think
we
can
definitely
bring
this
up
at
the
Asia
Pacific
meeting
too,
because
there's
a
lot
of
localization
going
on
there
within
the
circle
back
with
the
regularly
scheduled
meeting
I
think
in
two
weeks.
So
if
you're
up
for
attending
two
more
readings
and
talking
about
this
I,
think
that
would
be
fantastic
sure.
B
B
A
C
Yeah
I
just
like
to
bring
up
the
examples
in
the
tutorials
I
ran
into
an
issue
not
long
ago.
That
has
to
do
when
we
removed
the
images
from
docker
hub
for
the
security
reasons.
I
was
going
through
some
of
the
examples
and
trying
to
collect
correct
some
of
those
and
people.
I
think
we
need
to
pay
more
attention
to
giving
those
examples.
C
From
the
ones
we
pulled
to
the
official
Redis
image
in
this
case,
but
I'm
sure
it
also
relates
to
others,
but
they
did
not
run
through
the
tutorial
to
see
if
there
were
other
issues
in
the
dock.
You
talk
somewhere
and
it
just
became
this
long
process
for
one
of
these
PRS
I
submitted-
and
you
know
it
just
turned
into
a
whole
ordeal,
so
I
kind
of
just
shut
it
down,
but
I
think
that
I
just
want
to
bring
up
that.
We
should
paid.
C
A
Yeah,
no
thanks
for
bringing
the
and
I
think
that
is
an
issue
where
a
version
changes
or
a
tag
changes
and
a
quick
PR
is
just
to
change
that
tag
and
then
call
it
a
day
without
actually
testing
the
full
manifest.
Because
that
takes
time
do
you
have
any
suggestions
on
how
to
make
that
better
or
I?
Guess.
C
A
C
No,
not
really
I,
don't
know
you
know,
I,
don't
know
what
the
fix
would
be,
because
three
or
four
people
commented
on
that
PR.
But
no
one
read,
you
know
it's
like
no
one
wanted
to
do
the
work
and
I
think
it's
just
like
something,
including
myself,
like
I'm,
not
pointing
names
like
I
just
didn't
have
time
to
run
through
everything.
I
ran
through
it
once
before
noticed
it
didn't
work
made
the
notes
in
the
thing
saying:
hey:
this
needs
a
tech
preview
and
then
everyone
else
yeah.
You
know
it's
just
like
stacking
up.
C
On
top
of
you
know
things
I'd
already
said,
and
then
just
you
know
just
turn
into
this
long
thread
about
you
know
it
got
no.
Where
is
my
point
and
so
I?
You
know,
I,
don't
know
what
the
fix
is
I'm,
just
throwing
it
out
there
that
maybe
we
should
pay
more
attention
to
some
tech
preview
stuff
or
come
up
and
talk
about
how
we're
going
to
address
those
issues.
D
Just
a
quicker
just
looking
for
the
Mondays
am
I
right
is
to
say
that
the
example
which
normally
normally
but
not
all
of
them,
should
go
through
the
you
know.
We
have
an
example
underscore
test
go
file
which
normally
is
trying
to
exercise
and
validate
the
manifest.
Am
I
right
to
say
that
if
the
the
example
is
part
of
that
test,
that
that
test
is
not
enough,
because
then
you
need
to
also
kind
of
read
the
entire
ask
or
anything
like
that,
which
kind
of
may
or
may
not
discover
the
bits.
C
I
think
so,
because
I
think
what's
happening
is
while
the
manifest
looks
good
whole
tutorial
might
not
complete
right.
So
it's
the
you.
D
But
because
there
was
a
and
they
still
an
open
at
least
one
which
I
open
it
and
the
plan
was
to
kind
of
go
around
the
entire
dog
by
code
base
and
move
every
single
manifest
into
the
example
at
least.
Do
it
to
be
cover
on
that
one?
However,
as
you
just
pointed
out
I,
but
if
we
do
have
a
gap
in
terms
of
how
do
you
test
the
entire
page?
And
you
know
the
time
and
belief
on
that
point,
one
of
the
the
problem
will
do.
D
Obviously,
as
you
just
mentioned
the
time,
but
then,
even
apart
from
that,
one
would
be
whether
we
do
need
somehow
to
have
a
a
a
cluster
somewhere.
You
know
to
spawn
up
a
cluster
and
then
to
it
rather
than
focus
to
it
penalty.
I,
don't
know,
maybe
that's
too
heavy
lifting
there
is
something
which
obviously
is
it's
up
for
improvement.
I,
guess
sure
it's.
D
Of
the
test,
if
you
look
on
the
task,
okay,
you
follow
the
task,
but
then
the
task
is
not
only
like
a
how-to
so
to
speak.
Follow
these
steps
and
then
job
done
concepts.
Then
you
have
a
bigger
problem,
so
only
maybe
the
tutorials,
which,
which
kind
of
follow
the
the
the
steps
approach,
would
would
work
for.
Apart
from
that,
it's
hard
to
find
out
another
way.
A
Yeah
and
I
think
it's
a
important
topic
to
discuss.
One
thing:
I'm
thinking
is
that
there
could
be
some
form
of
tooling
built
into
the
test
that
we
do
on
part
of
our
our
approval
process.
The
the
problem
is
I'm
a
little
reluctant
to
introduce
additional,
tooling
and
heavy
handedness,
and
some
of
these
are
different
processes.
A
You
know
there
could
be
an
another
problem
with
the
image
not
existing
or
this
you
know,
respect
correct,
but
this
is
not
the
correct
path
or
what
is
the
issue
that
is
reoccurring,
or
are
we
seeing
it
and
frequently
enough
that
it's
not
worth
you
know,
investing
in
and
the
testing
suite?
That
would
be
wrapped
around
something
like
that,
but
we
already
are
doing
the
integration
test
for
the
the
kubernetes
website,
so
it
doesn't
seem
out
of
this
world,
but
I.
A
C
I
mean
it's
not
like.
There's
a
ton
of
examples
out
there
we
don't
have.
You
know
encyclopedia
of
tutorials
to
go
through
right.
There's
there's
a
few
handful.
You
know
a
massive
catalog,
so
I,
you
know
so
I,
don't
know
what
the
risk
versus
reward
could
be.
I
mean
I.
Can't
I
can't
you
know
say
anything
to
that.
A
D
D
D
A
Thank
you
and
do
we
have
any
current
comments
and
words
that
today,
I
guess
is
their
community
leaning,
one
way
or
the
other,
or
is
it
still
very
much
ongoing
debate.
D
C
Think
a
lot
of
it
has
to
do
with
context
right
in
the
context
of
cops.
Then
it
could
mean
this
or
it
with
the
cops
example.
Instance
groups
in
the
context
of
you
know
the
life
cycle.
It
could
mean
something
else
and
I
think
I
think
that's
where
the
challenge
is
gonna
be
is
getting
everybody
to
agree
on
what
what
it
means,
because
everybody's
view
is
different
based
on
where,
on
the
context
of
where
they're
working
from
it's
it's
just
kind
of
turned
into
a
very
hot
topic
recently.
A
Cool
yeah,
thanks
for
raising
visibility
on
that
Danny
will
add
that
what
that
URL
in
the
chat
there's
while
are
in
the
agenda
and
then
folks
have
more
history,
can
definitely
give
some
input.
There
I've
seen
the
discussion
and
I've
seen
this
kind
of
bubble
up
and
fizzle
out
and
bubble
up
again
and
fizzle
out.
I
would
be
awesome
if
this
actually
takes
effect
and
we
all
agree
on
a
standard
and
I'm
really
hoping
this
one
doesn't
fizzle
out.
But
unfortunately,
this
has
kind
of
been
one
of
those
turmoils
and
discussion.
D
We
had
to
speak
because
you
know
when,
when
someone
without
any
history
comes-
and
you
know
you
know
initially
started
with
minions-
then
we
move
to
walk
to
notes.
Then
we
move
to
Walker.
Now
he's
like
okay,
we
kept
it
to
a
master,
but
master
is
no
longer
me
mean
anything,
and
that
doesn't
mean
much
nowadays
and
then
yeah.
It's
a
lot
of
confusion.