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From YouTube: Kubernetes UG VMware 20200604
Description
June 6 2020 meeting of the Kubernetes VMware User Group covered compatibility matrix of vSphere cloud provider and storage plugins related to specific versions of Kubernetes and vSphere
A
My
co-chair
miles
gray
said
that
he's
tied
up
in
a
meeting
and
he
might
be
joining
us
late
and
we've
got
a
couple
of
user
members,
but
I
don't
see
them
present
today
either,
but
we're
going
to
go
along
with
the
meeting
without
them.
As
always,
members
are
invited
to
add
items
to
the
agenda.
We
don't
have
a
whole
lot
there
today,
but
you're
welcome
to
even
add
it
now
or
verbally
bring
it
up
we'll
break
as
we
get
through
the
things
listed
there.
A
B
A
Okay,
great
so
first
item
is
events
happening
for
the
online
kubecon
europe.
These
were
originally
planned,
of
course,
to
be
the
physical
event,
but
the
cncf
is
converting
this
to
an
online
event.
In
august,
we've
got
a
couple
very
specific
sessions.
You
know,
obviously
anything
related
to
kubernetes
might
appeal
to
people
on
this
call,
but
we
have
a
user
group
session
scheduled
with
miles
gray
and
myself.
The
link
to
it
is
in
this
agenda
note
stock.
A
Let
me
open
it
here,
so
the
subject
will
be
best
practices
for
running
on
vmware
with
miles
and
myself,
and
since
this
is
off
in
august,
these
things
are
always
fluid.
So
I
expect
that
we'll
have
the
very
latest
material
or
we
are
going
to
pre-record
this.
So
maybe
it
won't
be
literally
to
the
done
at
the
last
minute,
but
it
will
be
a
refresh
as
things
go
along
so
you're
likely
to
learn
one
or
two
new
things
there.
B
A
Maybe
I'm
putting
too
big
a
spotlight
on
david
here,
but
I
know
for
my
own
session
if
somebody
wants
some
specific
item
covered
in
that
presentation
that
I'm
doing
you're
welcome
to
ping
me
on
slack
and
let
me
know
I
can't
if
you
ask
for
a
two-hour
presentation,
the
session's,
not
that
long,
but
I'm
I'm
willing
to
cover
whatever.
If
you
give
me
time
because
I
haven't
finished
the
deck
yet
and
maybe
david
is
willing
to
throw
that
same
sort
of
offer
out
there
for
a
little
agenda
guidance.
B
Yeah,
that's
yeah,
echo
the
same
thing
because
it's
you
know
deployment
in
vsphere
like
especially
when
you're
doing
like
zones
and
regions
and
stuff
like
that
can
be
quite
complex.
So
if
there's
anyone
that
has
specific
things
that
they
would
are
interested
in
having
being
covered,
you
know
you
know,
definitely
willing
to
maybe
tailor
or
put
in
sections
of,
or
maybe
even
use,
that
particular
thing
as
an
example
so
yeah
most
definitely
reach
out.
A
Okay,
there
you
have
it
the
other
thing
that
we
can't
talk
about,
but
originally
for
the
physical
event.
We
were
going
to
have
a
social
event
kind
of
a
meet
and
greet
birds
of
a
feather
that
was
sponsored
by
a
local
member
in
amsterdam
and
we've
been
kicking
around
the
idea
of
perhaps
having
an
unofficial
zoom
call
it.
The
original
one
was
called
v
beer,
so
maybe
we
call
it
a
virtual
cocktail
party
or
something,
and
if
people
are
interested
in
that
we
could
try
to
do
it.
A
There's
no
no
time
set
aside
now,
but
we've
been
throwing
around
that
idea,
so
any
feedback
on
whether
I
I
think
we're
gonna.
Have
we
won't
do
it
unless
at
least
a
few
people
say
tell
us
they
join
if
it
happened,
but
if
we
hear
that
we'll
probably
do
such
a
thing,
so
why
don't
you
just
indicate
whether
you're
in
favor,
against
that
in
the
user
group
slack
channel
and
we've
got
until
mid-august
to
decide
on
that
so
moving
along?
A
It's
fair
scope
for
this
user
group
to
cover
the
aspects
of
it.
So
a
lot
of
this
is
a
repeat
of
what
got
into
that
slack
channel
thread,
but
since
slack
can
be
kind
of
rough
for
finding
and
searching
for
old
issues
in
traffic.
I
thought
I'd
repeat
some
of
that.
Some
of
this
material
here
and
maybe
add
a
little
bit
of
color.
You
know
opinion,
so
others
are
welcome
to
chime
in
on
me.
A
A
My
perspective
on
this
is
that
this
recent
blog,
it
was
published
in
early
may
by
cormac
hogan,
a
member
of
the
group
who,
I
don't
think
is
on
the
call
today
is
a
very
good
overview
of
some
of
the
issues.
You
know
this.
This
isn't
a
simple
thing
that
you
can
say:
oh
yeah,
if
you're
running
kubernetes
on
vsphere
do
exactly
this,
because
the
what
you
have
to
do
can
vary
a
little
bit.
Should
you
be
on
vsphere
6.7,
for
example,
it
might
be
different
than
being
on
vsphere
7.
A
A
Is
that
they're
going
to
train
their
support
people
and
they
don't
want
to
train
people
in
five
different
permutations
part
of
their
part
of
their
reasoning
for
selling
a
commercial
distribution
is
to
make
it
easier
for
you
and
make
it
easier
to
get
support,
but
that
job
is
perhaps
easier.
If
they
don't.
You
know
if
they
make
some
choices
for
you
and
I
think
pretty
much
all
the
commercial
distributions
do.
A
Official
is
here
at
this
link
and
once
again
this
is
made
to
be
the
generic.
So
you
will
potentially
find
csi
documentation
embedded
in
vmware's
commercial
kubernetes
distributions,
but
we
didn't
want
to
restrict
publication
of
that
doc
to
only
our
commercial
distribution
so
that
documentation
on
csi
exists,
independent
of
any
product
offering
and
what's
here
should
be
usable
to
anyone
electing
to
use
that
csi
driver,
regardless
of
your
kubernetes.
A
For
example,
if
you're
using
pure
upstream
open
source
checked
out
of
github
that
this
documentation,
the
intent
is,
this
documentation
should
work
for
you,
and
this
is
published
off
of
github.
So
any
problems
requests
for
more
you're
free
to
put
questions
into
the
slack
channel
on
this
user
group.
But
you
know
if,
if
you
want
to
fix
the
documentation
that
would
be
covered,
you
know
through
the
standard
github
process
which
might
which
would
start
with
opening
an
issue
if
you're
running
on
vsphere
prior
to
6.7
u3.
A
A
So
if
you
are
there,
you
can
get
it
to
work
and
I've
got
a
link
there
to
some
resource
that
might
explain.
What's
going
on
there,
another
option
you
have
if
you're
on
really
ancient
tech
is,
of
course
just
act
like
you're
on
bare
metal.
I
mean
you
can
deploy
vms
on
vsphere
running
your
favorite
flavor
of
linux,
and
it
is
perfectly
viable
to
simply
follow
the
kubernetes
project
instructions
for
deploying
to
vera
metal.
I've
done
it
myself
and
it
does
work
once
again.
A
You
might
find
life
easier
to
live
in
if
you
moved
up
a
little
bit,
but
if
you're
on
five-year-old
technology
and
stuck
there,
that
might
be
your.
You
know
that
might
be
your
your
only
solution
or
your
best
solution,
then
that
earlier
link
on
github
was
to
the
csi
storage,
but
here's
another
one
for
the
cloud
provider.
A
So,
there's
a
link
here,
if
you're
on
vsphere,
7
and
you're,
using
the
kubernetes,
bundled
into
that,
you
should
go
to
this
specific
dock
for
that.
If
you're
in
that
specific
position
and
then
red
hat
open
shift,
some
people
from
red
hat
were
kind
enough
to
participate
in
the
writing
blogs,
and
I
think
some
of
them
are
active
in
the
slack
community,
but
there's
a
blog
post
on
running.
A
I'm
not
sure
what
ocp
ocp4
is
myself,
but
with
the
csi
driver
there's
a
blog
post.
I
think
it
was
written
by
robbie
jerome
of
vmware
with
a
red
hat
person,
but
I'm
mistaken
of
openshift43
with
csi
there's
some
more
recent
things
on
openshift4
and
this
youtube
video
I
just
discovered
yesterday
started
watching
it
but
only
managed
to
get
it
about
halfway
through,
but
it
it
looked
like
a
very
good
resource
on
running
openshift
4-4
with
vsphere
6.7
u3.
A
If
any
members
are
out
there
with
other
recommendations,
please
come
you
mention
them
now
or
cut
and
paste
them
into
the
into
the
agenda
doc
to
just
help
other
people
to
come
in
the
future.
I
did
look
around
just
because
I'm
I
want
to
be
fair
here
and
cover
everything
out
there.
I
did
a
google
search
to
see
if
I
could
find
anything
for
the
d2,
dq
e2
iq
distribution,
but
the
first
page
of
my
google
results
didn't
show
me
a
doc,
but
I
suspect
there
might
be
one
out
there
like.
A
A
D
C
This
this
is
a
robert
hammond.
I'm
I'm
one
of
the
product
managers
who's
looking
after
data
protection
at
vmware,
so
I
own
all
the
the
libraries
that
people
use
to
backup
vms
today
and
we're
trying
to
port
that
stuff
into
valero
and
we're
now
talking
to
you,
know
the
large
isvs
that
do
backup
and
we're
formal
we're
we're.
Not.
C
I
don't
want
to
say
formalizing,
but
we're
coalescing
around
valero
being
kind
of
the
de
facto
way
to
back
up
and
restore
both
the
crds
and
persistent
volumes
and
we're
looking
for
feedback
from
users
in
the
community
around
these
plans
and
also
to
understand
what
do
they
expect
the
the
backup
experience
to
be
like.
So
if,
if
there's
anyone
out
there,
that
would
like
to
weigh
in
on
this,
the
the
doors
is
wide
open
for
feedback.
A
Do
you
mind
if
I
jump
in
and
give
a
or
you
can
just
a
quick
explanation
of
what
valero
is,
because
I'm
afraid
some
of
these
people
on
this
call
or
we
have
an
audience
that
goes
and
watches
the
recording
on
youtube
later
I've
had
users
who
are
really
just
starting
to
kick
the
tires
of
kubernetes
in
some
of
these
open
source
projects.
That
are,
you
assume
everybody
in
the
cncf
community
has
heard
of
these
for
years,
but
they're
newbies,
and
they
don't
so.
Do
you
want.
C
I'll
I'll
give
it
a
shot
so
for
anyone
that
hasn't
seen
it
valero
is
an
open
source
project.
It
it
came
from
heptio
it
used
to
be
called
arc
and,
and
valero
is
a
tool
that
is
used
to
make
backup
copies
of
namespaces
or
clusters
or
kubernetes
objects
or
things
that
are
marked
with
labels
and
it
it
has
two
purposes:
the
first,
for
whatever
grouping
of
kubernetes
objects
you
want,
it
will
grab
a
copy
of
the
crds
that
are
there
and
we'll
back
them
up
in
a
tarball
to
object.
A
So
can
I
jump
in
so
just
to
make
it
clear:
it's
open
source
and
it
is
under
the
cncf
foundation
at
this
point
right,
and
so
it's
managed
by
the
cncf
as
a
community
effort
just
like
kubernetes
is,
and
it
backs
up
both
the
kubernetes,
your
kubernetes
itself,
including
aspects
that
you
may
have
customized
and
as
a
secondary
function,
it'll
back
up
your
stateful
application.
So
if
you're
running
stateful
apps
under
kubernetes
that
map
to
persistent
volumes,
it's
prepared
to
do
that.
A
C
D
A
A
This
I'll
I'll
throw
out
one
aspect
of
this
is
that
valero
is
set
up
to
use
the
snapshotting
of
volumes,
but
that's
relatively
new
tech.
So
at
this
point
in
time
I
think
that
the
snapshots
for
the
vsphere
csi
are
not
shipping
in
production
david.
You
can.
Maybe
you
know
you
were
working
on
it
before.
I
know
you're
not
now,
but
I
I
know
that
you're
at
least
one
resource
on
the
call
familiar
with
storage
until
miles
arrives.
C
No,
the
those
the
the
the
plug-in
for
vsphere
is
available.
Now
it's
an
open
source
thing,
just
search
for
the
vsphere
plug
or
the
valero
plug-in
for
vsphere.
I
think
that's
what
it
is
and
it's
on
the
the
tanzu
github
page
and
we're
also
gonna.
You
know
work
with
everybody
else,
so
that
if
you're,
you
know
wanting
to
use
a
pure
array-
or
you
know
have
have
like
an
ebs
volume-
will
support
that
too.
C
You
know
I'd
like
to
add
kind
of
one
thing
in
that
we
have
a
very
robust
ecosystem
of
of
ways
to
protect
your
your
virtual
machines
today
and
our
our
goal
is
to
take
everything
that
that
we
have
now
that
you
know
300,
000,
plus
vmware
customers
use
and
bring
it
to
kubernetes
as
well.
So
we
don't
want
to
reinvent
any
wheels.
C
A
Yeah
for
those
new
to
kubernetes
that
is
kind
of
a
key
aspect
of
making
it
practical
to
run
stateful
apps
on
kubernetes.
I
think
stateful
apps
have
been
out
there
for
several
years
now
with
persistent
volume
mounts,
but
that's
yes,
you
can
run
it,
but
in
production
you
kind
of
want
to
have
reliable,
backups
available
as
well
to
make
it
a
comparable
experience
to
what
you
used
to
have
in
commercial
environments,
on
bare
metal
or
in
on
running
on.
A
Okay,
it
sounds
like
there's
no
further
comment
on
that
and
I
think
we've
covered
all
the
items
in
the
agenda.
Does
anybody
else
want
to
bring
up
anything
new
or
I'd
also
like
to
reach
out?
Even
if
you
just
have
questions
that
you
want
me
to
go,
find
speakers
to
talk
about,
throw
it
out
there
to
give
me
some
time
to
get
ready
for
next
month's
meeting.
A
Okay,
going
gone
thanks
for
joining
the
meeting.
I
think
our
attendance
is
a
little
lighter
than
normal,
but
perhaps
because
of
the
events
going
on
in
the
world,
and
so
if
this
is
the
first
time
here,
maybe
it's
been
a
little
more
active
in
the
past.
Please
come
back
next
month,
thanks
for
attending.