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From YouTube: 20200811 Kubernetes Working Group for Multitenancy
Description
Pretty informal call, no agenda. We discuss
- Kubecon next week, talks people are giving / attending
- Virtual conferences
- Process for making HNC a formal sub project
A
B
A
Yeah-
and
there
was
a
guy
who
did
a
webinar
for
susie-
am
I
I've
never
actually
heard
that
word
pronounced
on
that
susie
likes
yeah?
They
joined
up
with
rancher
recently
right
yeah,
so
an
italian
guy.
I
forgot
his
name,
but
he
did
a
cncf
webinar
about
multi-tenancy
as
well,
so
he
I
asked
him
if
he'd
be
interested
in
coming
and
presenting
some
time
about
what
they're
up
to,
and
he
said
well
yeah,
maybe
if
he
gets
the
time
so
maybe
after
cube
con,
I
can
I
mean
not.
A
A
Not
to
the
best
of
my
knowledge,
no
I've
recorded
one
for
hnc
for
our
people
named
spaces
and
I'm
gonna
be,
I
think,
there's
some
googly
event
on
the
monday
that
I'm
talking
about
as
well.
Other
than
that
I
wasn't
really.
I
was
not
planning
on
going
in
person
when
it
was
in
amsterdam,
so
I'm
not
really
going
to
be.
That
involved
like
I'll,
be
mine's
on
wednesday,
so
I'll
be
there
for
the
q
a,
but
I
doubt
I'm
going
to
a
lot
of
other
stuff,
but
are
you
presenting?
C
Well,
I
had
I
had
a
presentation
about
something
totally
unrelated
to
multi-tenancy,
but
yeah
the
I
ended
up
just
picking
up
a
talk
that
somebody
else
couldn't
do
anymore
at
the
very
last
minute,
so
quality
not
guaranteed
it's
about
the
kubernetes
code
of
conduct
yeah
so
like
what
is
it?
What
does
it
mean
for
you?
A
A
Okay,
yeah.
I
think
that
I'll
be
interested
to
see
how
this
virtual
conference
thing
goes
is
the
first
one
that
I've
been
involved
with
and
I'm
like,
I
did
a
webinar.
It
had
a
150
people
watching
back
in
june.
I
think,
is
this
going
to
be
the
same
thing
or
there?
Will
there
be
more
people
watching
like?
I
have
no
idea.
C
I
find
it
really
hard
personally
just
figuring
out
when
talks
are
gonna
happen
with
virtual
conferences,
so
I've
been
signed
up
for
like
two
or
three
and
then
I'm
like.
I
have
meetings
and
stuff
going
on,
and
so
I
just
don't
end
up
going
to
any
of
the
talks,
but
I
heard
some
really
interesting
stuff
microsoft
through
their
build
made,
build
a
virtual
event
and
that's
their
developer
conference
and
as
a
result,
they
had
the
highest
attendance
and
registration
ever
of
women.
C
A
C
A
B
C
C
B
Yeah
it'd
be
cool
to
see
if
the
cncf
releases
anything
about
about
their
attendance.
After,
like
any
reports
about
how
it
turned
out,
I
know
like
from
the
programming
committee
side-
I
I
can't
say
it
across
the
board,
but
at
least
for
the
the
the
cfps
that
I've
reviewed
I've
seen
a
lot
more
research
papers
and
people
in
the
research
community
than
I've
ever
seen
before,
which
I
thought
was
pretty
fascinating,
so
people
that
are
working
for
like
university
of
san
diego
and
things
like
that.
It's
been
pretty
interesting.
D
Yeah,
that
seems
really
cool
usually
gives
their
kind
of
breakdown
after
the
event-
and
I
think
bob
kellen
is
probably
one
of
the
big
drivers
around
the
research
because
he's
you
know
he's
huge,
but
I
did
I'll
be
interested
mostly
because
I
talking
to
bob
they
said
across
all
of
the
cncf
projects,
they've
seen
like
a
10
to
15
decline
in
activity
from
contributors.
Just
because
of
you
know
world
events.
So
I
guess
that's
where
I'm
curious
how
it
affects
coupon.
C
Yeah
for
sure
and
like
microsoft,
build
was
one
of
the
first
round
the
world
conferences
where
they
started
at.
I
think
business
time
in
india
and
then
followed
the
sun
all
the
way
around
and
yeah
and
for
their
presentation
presenters.
It
was
pretty
brutal
because
they
had
to
do
it
in
three
different
time
zones
so
like
one
would
work
for
wherever
you
were
and
then
the
other
two
were
gonna,
be
not
great.
C
A
A
C
Yeah,
the
just
getting
to
know
kind
of
what
people
are
working
on
and
you
know
the
funny
thing
is.
I
always
learn
a
lot
at
the
booth
like
I'm,
usually,
you
know,
have
booth
duty
and
I'm
just
standing
there
and
people
walk
up
to
me
and
tell
me
like
what
they're
using
kubernetes
for
what
problems
they're
trying
to
solve
like,
and
it's
always
just
gold.
You
know
from
like
just
understanding.
C
B
B
A
Yeah
sure
so
latest
update
is
that
there
were
basically
two
blockers
identified
to
getting
our
own
rebo
and
graduating.
One
of
them
was
a
security
review
and
that
hasn't
started
yet
you're
at
apple
right
yeah.
I
think
that
so
so
I'm
going
to
blame
you
because
I
think
well,
claire,
might
be
one
of
the
people
who
could
potentially
have
been
our
security
reviewer
and
he's
he's
just
gone
to
apple.
I
think
so
was
that
yeah,
no
tim,
all
clear,
okay,
yeah,
so
yeah.
A
We
need
to
find
a
security
reviewer,
but
I'm
not
too
worried
about
that
part.
The
bigger
thing
which
we
are
actively
working
on
right
now
is
is
the
api
review.
So
we
did
an
api
review
with
jordan,
liggett
ryan
who's
on
this
call
and
mike
tenessee,
and
so
they
identified
a
bunch
of
things
that
we
needed
to
do,
and
so
we
are
implementing
that
now
and
we're
going
to
hold
the
next
release
of
agency,
which
is
0.6
we're
going
to
hold
it
until
we've
got
that
api
in
once.
That's
done.
A
I
think
that
that
is
then
we're
like
on
our
way
to
being
a
like
a
real
project,
a
real
repo
and
I
think
the
security
review.
You
know
why
don't
I
go.
That's
a
good
reminder.
I
should
go
prod
a
couple
of
people
to
get
that
going
to
get
that
going
again.
So
those
were
the
two
identified
blockers
once
that's
done,
I'm
guessing
that
the
that
agency
06
will
land
by
the
end
of
september.
A
At
this
point,
this
is
our
first
time
doing
doing
crd
conversions
and
there
were
a
surprising
number
of
complications,
but
we
think
that
we're
mostly
through
the
mess,
we're
actually
finally
doing
the
actual
work
and
not
just
like
setting
up
tests
and
and
figuring
out
certificate,
plumbing
and
tls
stuff
like
that,
and
so
that's
all
pretty
much
done
so
yeah
we're
looking
at
yeah
sort
of
in
the
fall.
We're
hoping
did.
Are
you
just
like
interested?
A
A
A
Yeah,
so
if
they
did
ask
me
about
the
process,
I
told
them
pretty
much
the
same
thing,
I'm
telling
you
and
there
hasn't
been
a
lot
of
new
stuff
since
then.
It's
the
api
review
that
like,
if
we
didn't
want,
if
we
didn't,
want
to
preserve
at
least
some
kind
of
compatibility,
we'd
already
be
done,
but
we
do
have
some
people
who
are
starting
to
use
hnc
we've
released
it
as
a
google
product,
and
so
even
though
technically
alpha
apis
can
go
poof
at
any
moment.
A
We
want
to
be
a
little
bit
nicer
to
our
customers
than
that
and
users
than
that,
so
we're
not
doing
the
full
compatibility,
but
we
are
doing
basically
a
one-way
upgrade.
So
when
you
install
the
new
version
of
hnc,
we
do
recommend
that
you
back
up
your
objects
beforehand,
which
is
pretty
easy,
we'll
document
how
to
do
that,
but
you'll
install
it
and
will
automatically
convert
all
of
your
existing
objects
from
v1
alpha
1
to
v1
alpha
2..
A
B
D
Where
does
that
yeah
yeah?
So
basically,
what
hap
needs
to
happen
is
the
the
sponsor
of
our
working
group,
which
is
sigoth,
needs
to
accept
the
project
as
a
subproject,
and
so
that
was
their
stipulation
of
like
well
hmc.
We
didn't
really
know
what
idea
what
it
is
so
in
order
for
us
to
actually
say
that
yes,
we're
gonna,
sponsor
this
and
take
it
on
as
a
subproject.
You
know
we'll
do
these
couple
of
things,
and
so
you'll
have
to
basically
do
the
same
thing.
D
B
So
I
don't
know
much
about
like
the
actual
graduation,
we're
trying
from
from
working
group
projects
and
things
like
that
in
general,
do
they
always
have
to
go
through
the
same
sponsoring
sig?
I
say
that
because
it
kind
of
because
when
you
start
to
look
at
what
virtual
cluster
is
doing,
it
feels
like
there's
other
places
that
can
be
homed
and
so.
D
D
Yeah,
so
technically,
a
working
group
is
not
supposed
to
have
any
projects
right,
so
we
would
kind
of
have
been
bucking
the
trend
there
and
so
technically
yeah
a
sig
is
supposed
to
is
the
only
ones
supposed
to
own
the
sub
project
and
that's
kind
of
why
it's
in
a
weird
state.
So
if
you
don't
think
sigoth
is
right,
then
I
would
start
finding
another
sig,
but
basically
you
need
a
sig
to
basically
say
yeah.
This
is
our.
B
B
To
go
through
the
same
one,
because
we've
been
I've
been
talking
with
a
couple:
people
in
the
cluster
life
cycle
or
zig
cluster
lifecycle,
side
of
things
to
try
and
figure
out,
if
that's
a
better
place
to
home
it
as
like
a
hey.
This
somewhat
fits
into.
If
we
change
the
api
layer
a
little
bit,
we
can
fit
this
into
cluster
api
and
we
could
use
the
new
the
new
control
plane
apis
for
it,
and
I've
been
talking
with
vince
and
jason
from
over
there.
So
far,
that's
better
to
me,
yeah!
D
Yeah
it
feels
like
it
feels
like.
It
doesn't
make
sense,
though
right
it's
kind
of
hard,
because
the
zigs
are
very
they're,
very
narrow,
but
broad
at
the
same
time.
But
the
big
thing
is
the
sig
themselves
need
to
basically
agree
that
they're
taking
on
maintenance
of
this
right,
because
it's
once
it
becomes
an
actual
official
sub
project.
Then
it's
you
know
you're
signing
up
for
the
long
haul,
and
so
I
think
that's
why
you
need
to
find
the
sig
where
it
fits
and
they
need
to.
I
guess,
welcome
it
perfect
cool!
A
D
I
should
add
one
more
thing
too
right.
So
technically,
this
all
goes
by
charters
and
bylaws
and
the
reason
we
had
to
do
the
process
we
did
is
because
sigoth
uses
the
the
main
charter
from
kubernetes
or
cncf.
If
the
sig
you're
going
to
has
an
alternative
charter
or
they
haven't
adopted
the
same
charter,
it
may
be
easier
to
become
a
sub
project.
So
I
guess
I
would
look
at
the
actual
charter
in
their
repo
for
the
actual
sig
to
determine
what
their
process
is.
D
It's
probably
the
same
because
most
people
just
say
yeah
we
take
the
you
know
whatever
upstream
is,
but
it
may
not
be
easier,
very
cool.
That's
that's
super
helpful.
I
learned
way
too
much
about
the
bylaws
and
the
charters
trying
to
go
down
this
path,
and
I
wanted
to
that's
awesome.
I
might
poke
you
for
more
questions
as.