►
From YouTube: KubeVirt Community Meeting 2022-10-05
Description
Meeting Notes: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1kyhpWlEPzZtQJSjJlAqhPcn3t0Mt_o0amhpuNPGs1Ls/
A
All
right,
well,
I,
guess
we'll
go
ahead
and
get
started.
I'm
gonna
go
ahead
and
throw
the
meeting
notes
in
the
agenda
in
the
chat,
if
everyone
wouldn't
mind
going
and
just
making
sure
that
you
fill
out
the
attendee
sheet
down
on
the
2022
1005
minutes,
that'd
be
really
appreciated.
I
would
keep
track
of
when
he
has
been
here
today.
A
Okay,
so
again,
yeah,
if
everyone
can
just
come
on
here
and
just
make
sure
you
put
your
name
down
in
the
the
attendees
section,
we'd
appreciate
that
is
there.
Anyone
new
on
the
meeting
today
who
we
haven't,
had
come
to
the
meetings
in
the
past
we'd
love
to
have
you
just
take
a
couple
minutes
to
introduce
yourself
and
if
there's
anything
that
you'd
like
to
discuss
this
week.
A
I'll
go
first
and
I
won't
take
minutes,
I'm,
Mark,
Lavi,
I'm
brand
new
to
Caston,
and
that's
a
veeam
company
and
I'm
the
open
source
product
manager,
so
I'll
be
helping
out,
probably
here
as
I'm,
coming
up
to
speed
with
a
lot
of
our
efforts
as
far
as
internal
prioritization
coordination,
with
this
project
and
Adoption,
of
course,
and
that's
it
fantastic
glad
to
have
you
mark,
that's
awesome
and
we're
happy
to
help
out
as
much
as
we
can
along
the
way.
So
my
dad
is
there
anyone
else.
A
Okay,
well,
I
guess
we
will
take
that
as
a
no
well
anyway
glad
to
be
here
with
everyone,
and
it
looks
like
we
don't
have
a
whole
lot
in
the
agenda
or
notes
this
time,
but
we
do
have
some
PRS
that
do
need
attention.
Is
there
anything
that
anyone
would
like
to
just
bring
up
as
a
discussion?
Point
questions
concerns,
feelings,
thoughts,
impressions.
A
A
B
Someone
can
probably
speak
to
it
better
than
I
can
but
I
think
we've
had
the
the
release.
Candidates
been
cut
and
I
think
we'll
have
the
our
final
version
along
our
monthly
release.
Schedule
will
be
released,
so
I
could
correct
me
along
into
the
end
of
this
week
or
the
start
of
next
week.
A
That's
awesome,
I
I
work
as
kind
of
the
Shameless
plug
but
I'm
on
the
the
confidential
containers
group,
and
we
just
had
our
first
version
0.1.0
release.
This
was
last
week,
so
I
always
love
when
releases
come
around
because
I
just
I
love
to
see
all
the
new
things
that
are
happening
in
all
the
fixes
and
stuff.
So
that's
awesome.
It
looks
like
we
do
have
a
discussion
that
was
added
in
here
about
Qbert
and
brow
jobs,
yeah,
hey
Larry.
A
Can
you
hear
me
yeah
I
can
hear
you.
Yeah
I
brought
this
up
previously
on
on
previous
Community
meetings,
but
just
wanted
to
let
everybody
know
that
the
Cooper
keeper
projects,
rather
than
using
a
darker
and
Docker
base
we're
using
a
podman
base.
So
that
was
changed
over
this
week.
A
A
Well,
that's
a
pretty
significant
change.
That's
awesome!
Yeah
was
there
was
that
primarily
just
because
of
the
demon-less
ability
to
run
it
or
yeah.
There's
a
couple
of
benefits
we
can
get
from
us,
yeah
the
rootless
mode
and
seamless,
and
also
we
can
move
images
around
without
the
need
of
a
registry
or
something
like
that
as
well.
So
there's
there's
a
number
of
benefits.
A
Well,
that's
I
mean
that's
great
news.
I
mean
I.
Think
progress
is
always
good.
So
that's
that's
fantastic,
so
everyone,
you
know,
I,
encourage
you
to
go.
Take
a
look
at
that
and
play
around
with
it.
Yeah
move
forward
with
that
all
right
Andrew
looks
like
you
threw
on
something
about
hacktoberfest.
Is
there
anything
you
want
to
talk
about
with
that
yep.
B
We've
got
we've
added
the
hacktube
Fest
labels
to
the
user
guide
and
we've
now
added
one
to
there's
one
issue
in
Cuba
cubert
that
has
the
active
first
slash
good,
first
issue
on
it,
since
these
you
know,
are
now
definable
and
and
visible
I'll
just
encourage
people
to
if
you
can
go
through
the
user
guide
and
if
you
see
anything,
that's
kind
of
like
it
strikes
you
as
something
that
would
be
good,
that
you
can
write,
create
an
issue
that
is
good
for
someone
that
doesn't
necessarily
have
strong
product
knowledge
that
will
be
able
to
work
on
it
and
provide
you
know:
comprehensive
information
in
the
issue
details
so
that
someone
can
come
along
totally,
fresh
and
and
kind
of
understand
what
what
the
problem
is.
B
What
the
solution
is,
then
that
would
be
super
helpful
and
I'll
welcome
to
promote
these
today
tomorrow,
Friday.
A
A
Sorry,
you
know
a
little
bit
of
a
loud
keyboard,
so
I
apologize
but
figured
I'd
just
take
a
couple
months
there
for
it.
So
we
can
keep
track
of
those
for
people
who
aren't
on
the
call
today,
that's
great
though
yeah
and
when
does
the
Octoberfest
officially
start
digest
from
first
to
the
end
of
it
or
sir
yeah.
That's
right.
Okay,.
A
All
right
is
there
anything
else
that
anyone
like
to
talk
about
on
the
against
open
discussion
floor,
we'll
talk
about
anything
if
anyone's
got
anything.
A
A
A
B
A
Okay,
I,
don't
have
any
of
the
approval
stuff,
but
I'm
happy
to
take
a
look
at
it
at
least
give
it
a
set
of
eyes.
B
Yeah
for
these
see
what
has
been
raised
in
the
last
eight
days,
that
hasn't
got
attention
and
bring
it
up
here,
just
in
case
one
of
the
people's
on
the
call
will
say,
like
you
know,
would
you
mind
jumping
on
this
and
I
think
as
the
general
McCall
and
I
think
Jed's
been
tagged
on
it,
so
yeah
cool,
that's
my
my.
A
Awesome
great
so
Judd
would
you
have
some
Cycles
to
look
at
this
today
then
yeah
I
will
awesome
fantastic.
Thank
you.
A
Let's
move
on
to
the
next
one,
if
there's
nothing
else
about
that,
we've
got
this.
Guy
move
test
agnostic,
so
this
is
another
one
looks
like
we
had
a
couple.
People
tagged
on
that
as
well.
A
A
A
B
A
Think
I
can
check
with
lubo
and
see
what
the
status
of
this
one
is
he's.
Normally
he
normally
joins
his
chords,
but
I,
don't
think
he's
a
better
partner.
Okay,
so
I'll
just
I'll
just
check
with
him
after
this
on
this
one.
So
you
can
see
me
on
on
the
pr
if
you
want
okay
sure,
what's
your
is?
What
is
your
thing?
John,
it's
just
Brian,
Brian
and
Carrie.
A
Apologize
I'm
still
getting
to
getting
to
know
the
people
in
the
name,
so
you
have
to
bear
with
me
on
that
all
right,
so
I
got
you
CC
down
there
and
looks
like
we
got
this
last
one
on
here
is
bumper
log
demon
requirement
to
20,
maybe
bytes
and.
A
Everything's
a
little
tight
and
so
okay,
this
one
and
it
looks
like
a
couple
people
around
here
as
well.
Would
you
mind
syncing
up
with
them
about
this
one
as
well?
It
looks
like
he's
tagged
on
it.
A
Yeah
yeah,
I
think
I
think
so
yeah
they
have
to
check
with
him
on
those
okay,
awesome,
okay,
I
think
that's
all
of
the
ones
that
we
had
put
on
in
there.
So
thank
you,
everyone
for
getting
some
eyes
on
that
and
doing
some
additional
review
and
then
mailing
list
review.
A
Again,
I'm
not
super
familiar
with
this
I'm,
not
sure
if
this
is
just
kind
of
more
to
point
out
some
things
that
are
happening
in
the
the
mailing
list
is
that
generally
how
this
goes
over
yeah.
B
Exactly
Okay
so
before
for
the
meeting,
I'd
try
and
go
through
and
pick
out
the
things
that
we
should
pay
attention
to
this
was
this
is
a
proposal
by
Fabian
Deutsch,
one
of
our
maintainers,
and
it's
about
changing
the
way
that
we
I
guess
organize
our
approvements
and
the
you
know
how
we
go
through
the
approval
process
and
so
I
brought
this
up
because
a
doesn't
have
any
replies
but
B.
B
It's
it's
a
proposal
to
change
the
fundamental.
A
fundamental
piece
of
you
know
this
community,
and
so
it
would
be
good
if
people
were
able
to
take
the
time
to
read
this
proposal.
There's
a
slide
deck
in
the
email
we've
got
by
the
links
there
I
see
and
like
be
aware
of
it,
and
if
you
have
thoughts,
opinions
dissent,
please
make
them
known.
Thank
you.
A
Yeah
I
think
that's
really
important,
and
so
this
is
a
proposal
to
to
lower
the
number
of
owners
based
off
of
kind
of
how
things
have
been
going.
Yeah.
B
Exactly
so,
as
he
says,
Dave
we've
got
12
official
owners
who
are
across
the
cube
at
Qbert
repo
entirely.
B
This
is
a
proposal
to
to
continue
to
have
that
and
I
think
farben
uses
the
term
Uber
approver
and
to
have
basically
a
he
uses,
the
it's
like
six's
vertical
interest
groups
and
a
new
kind
of
horizontal
smes,
which
are
focused
more
on
like
the
component
or
a
different
level
of
domain
knowledge,
so
that
we
can
have
more
approvers
for
one
who
might
have
so
I.
Think
one
of
the
horizontal
groups
he's
got
in
there
is
live
migration,
so
someone
that
is
has
domain
knowledge
is
like
a
live.
B
Migration
expert
is
able
to
review
and
approve
PRS
that
touch
upon
the
live
migration,
part
of
of
Cuba,
and
so
we're
able
to
have
a
more
approvers
to
take
the
ease.
The
burden
of
this
current
12
people
also
provides
a
you
know,
a
better
developed
pathway
to
become
a
quote,
unquote,
Uber
approver,
and
it
also
provides
us
with
a
list
of
additional
kind
of
smes
that
we
can
call
upon.
B
If
say,
you
know
we're
reviewing
something
or
one
of
these
12
people
reviewing
something
and
it
happens
to
involve
a
component
or
something
that
those
people
may
not
necessarily
like
it
might
be
a
bit
of
a
blind
spot
for
them
sort
of
in
their
our
books
to
say:
hey,
I
can
look
at
this
list,
see
three
names,
I'll
call
in
one
of
them
and
they
can
review
this
part
that
you
know
I,
don't
necessarily
have
the
the
knowledge
form.
So
that's.
A
That
I
could
I
could
see
that
being
really
useful,
especially
as
we
start
getting
into
you
know,
trusted
execution,
environments
and
stuff
like
that
with
confidential
Behavior
I
can
see
that
being
really
useful
for
the
different.
You
know:
hey
we've
got
someone
who
specializes
in
you
know
Intel
TDX
or
someone
who
specializes
in
you
know
the
the
armed
versions
or
someone
who's
in
the
AMD
stuff,
and
that
could
be.
It
could
be
helpful
to
make
sure
things
are
going.
That's
the
best
expected
cool
all
right.
Well,
yeah!
A
If
you
have
any
thoughts,
I'll
I'll,
definitely
I
am
actually
I.
Wasn't
aware
there
was
one,
so
I
will
make
sure
that
I
get
on
and
respond
to
that.
That's
really
cool
all.
B
Right
and
I
think
he's
opened
that
slide
deck
to
the
entire
keyboard
Dev
group,
and
so,
if
you
have
a
question,
please
raise
the
questions
or
comment
on
the
slide
deck
or
an
email,
cool.
A
And
then
this
obviously
is
a
comment
in
regards
to
the
changes
of
the
release
notes
with
the
new
release
schedule,
and
that
makes
sense.
This
is
just
probably
making
sure
if
I
release
notes
or
a
fall
in
line
with
the
the
new
schedule.
B
So
exactly
and
and
a
change
in
the
way
that
we'll
need
to
do
things,
and
so
this
will.
This
is
another
thing
that
will,
if
it
like,
if
it
goes
ahead,
there's
currently
proposed,
it
will
affect
everyone
in
the
in
the
way
that
we
label
our
PRS
for
this,
and
so
this
is
currently
a
email
thread
to
kind
of
gather
ideas
and
I'll
I'll
create
a
design
proposal
from
this,
which
will
probably
come
relatively
soon.
B
But
if
you
have
thoughts,
please
add
them
to
the
thread.
A
A
Sounds
great
and
it
looks
like
we
just
have
one
issue
on
the
bug
scrub,
so
let
me
get
that
pulled
up
real,
quick,
all
right,
and
so
this
is
one
that's
from
six
days
ago,
but
delete
does
not
always
return.
K8Sio
status,
like
the
open,
API
spec,
says.
A
A
This
is
because
cube
root
controls,
the
VMI
garbage
collection,
so
a
delete
call
from
a
client
actually
triggers
an
update
on
the
VMI
to
add
the
delete
deletion.
Timestamp
cube
root
should
have
an
opinion
on
which
return
type
is
used.
Since
there
are
two
options:
option
two
makes
more
sense,
since
it
is
usually
how
users
typically
consume
the
API
having
the
correct
value
effects
generate
code,
so
many
generated
clients
are
likely
to
ignore
the
value
in
its
current
state.
A
A
All
right.
Okay,.
A
I'm
not
super
familiar
with
this
particular
API
call
for
deleting
the
BMI,
but
I
do
think
that
it
would
make
sense
that
you
probably
want
to
go
through
the
most
expected
path,
especially
if
it's
going
to
make
things
more
reasonable
for
the
way
that
it
behaves
I'm,
not
sure
exactly
how
to
approach
this,
because
I
think
it's
something
that
definitely
needs
to
be
addressed,
but
I'm
not
sure
if
there's
actually
a
yeah
path
forward.
A
A
I
think
that
that
would
make
sense.
It
doesn't
seem
like
it's
a
super
involved
change
that
that
being
said
again
not
super
familiar
with
this
area
of
the
code.
So
if,
if
it
seems
like
it
should
be
relatively
straightforward
to
to
implement
this,
but
again
I
I,
don't
want
to
try
to
speak
authoritatively
here
because
I'm,
not
not
necessarily
in
that
area.
So
does
anyone
have
any
any
opinions
on
that
I
I'm
inclined
to
agree,
though
it
does
seem
fairly
straightforward.
A
Maybe
I'll
just
leave
a
comment.
This
may
be.
A
A
All
right
so
put
a
comment
on
there.
Hopefully
we
can
get
some
more
some
more
movement
on
that
I.
Don't
have
rights
to
the
labeling
system.
So
if,
if
someone
does
and
agrees
with
that,
I
would
really
appreciate
that.
Maybe
I'll
put
that
in
the
meeting
notes.
Here,
let's
say
follow
up.
A
Okay,
all
right,
okay,
I
haven't
been
looking
at
the
chat
because
I've
been
on
here.
Has
there
been
anything
in
the
chat?
Let
me
go
ahead
and
stop
sharing
for
reset
mode.
A
All
right,
okay,
well,
yeah,
I
I-
think
that's
basically
everything
on
here
great!
Is
there
any
other
discussion
points?
Did
anyone
would
like
to
bring
up
looks
like
we
might
have
a
bit
of
the
shorter
meeting
this
morning.
A
All
right,
well,
I'll,
give
you
the
the
traditional
countdown
of
three
to
one
all
right
thanks.
Everyone
for
the
call
appreciate
you
coming.
Thank
you
thanks.