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From YouTube: Layer5 Community Meeting (July 10th, 2020)
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Welcome Muskan, Jash, and Tingkai!!
B
There
are
some
using
house,
murder
from
the
steel
landscape
and
mixed
feelings
of
people.
Some
are
criticizing
and
some
were
happy
that
is
theories
now
cling
to
that.
But
I
have
seen
the
tweet
of
William
Morgan
Lincoln
a
founder,
be
a
much
criticizing
the
bay
and
we
already
have
a
CNC,
F
and
I.
We
have
created
and
others-
and
this
is
a
very
hot
topic
over
the
thing-
is
over
the
months
or
two
months
and
finally
I
think
there's
a
figure
out
open.
You
is
calm,
I
think.
A
A
A
All
right,
so
we
do
so
sign
mentioned
that
we
do
have
some
hot
topics
within
the
service
mesh
community
I
also
have
an
announcement.
I
would
say
probably
about
equally
as
important,
which
is
just
a
few
minutes
ago.
I
decided
that
the
saying
good
morning
is
just
a
compulsion
of
mine
when
I
get
on
to
a
meeting
in
the
morning
and
there's
really
nothing
I
can
do
about
it.
There's
just
I've
been
doing
it
for
a
year
now,
with
you
guys
and
and
I.
A
B
A
A
And
I
didn't
see
it,
but
but
anyway
yeah
anyway,
he
had
a.
He
had
a
kids,
a
kids
show,
and
so
every
time
he'd
open
up
the
kids
show
it
would
well
I,
don't
know
if
it
was
the
opening
or
I
forget
it
was
like.
You
know,
20.
You
know
well
more
years
ago
that
I
want
to
admit
for
me,
but
he
would
come
on.
He
would
sit
down
and
say
good
morning
to
the
heat's
that
basically
say
the
same
thing:
each
time,
he'd
kind
of
change.
A
A
A
It's
good
to
see
a
bunch
of
familiar
faces
on
the
call
and
some
new
ones
today,
if
you
have
access
to
the
meeting
minutes,
which
everyone
should
everyone
who's
on.
This
call
as
of
two
minutes
ago
should
have
access.
So
please
drop
your
name
into
the
attendees
list
and
then
also
understand
that,
just
like
the
rest
of
our
projects
that
they're
collaborative
projects
is
so
or
the
meeting
minutes.
So
if
you
have
topics
to
talk
about
today
or
questions
or
comments
or
things
drop
them
in
will
we'll
get
to
them.
F
E
A
A
A
That's,
that's
really
cool,
that's
pretty
awesome!
We
had
it
muskan,
it
said
I'm
excited
for
you.
He
actually
had
another
newcomer
do
their
first
PR
this
week
as
well
and
I.
Don't
think
she's
on
the
call
with
us,
but
I
got
it,
but
it
was
a
pretty
exciting
moment,
she's
pretty
pumped.
So
that's
good!
That's
good!
Good!
It's
nice
to
have
you!
This
is
good.
H
Zhang,
hey
Haley,
hey
everyone,
my
name
is
kang
hyejeong,
I'm
the
open
source
server
and
very
interested
in
communities
and
their
service
match
so
really
happy
to
join
this
community
I'm,
currently
based
in
Toronto
I,
have
experience
of
being
software
developer
and
a
data
scientist
really
happy.
I'm
really
excited
to
work
with
cush
on
some
cool
stuff
yeah.
So.
A
A
A
I
Yeah,
everyone
yeah
sure,
so
we
have
an
exciting
new
blog
post
up
in
their
face.
This
is
it
Akuma's
experience
post,
which
is
her
detailing
of
her
exciting
journey
on
her
master's,
partly
to
becoming
a
contributor
to
their
five?
So
if
you
are
a
newbie
or
looking
for
a
way
into
the
community
or
simply
looking
to
see
how
layer
5
could
benefit
you,
this
is
definitely
the
place
to
start.
I'm
sure
it
should
be
is
not
on
the
call
today,
I
think
but
I'm
sure
she'll.
It
give
a
proper
explanation
on
the
next
call.
A
A
A
B
I
think
for
at
last
three
months,
I'm
reading
every
deep
which
regarding
is
still
and
what
is
this
future,
is
going
to
be
and
there's
a
plenty
of
folks
are
also
talking
about
their
journey,
because
I
think
I
see
you
is
as
a
project
that
is
a
mine
of
Google,
IBM,
IBM
and
also
a
lift.
So
people's
are
thought
about.
This
project
is
also
denoted
to
the
CN
CF
as
an
open
source
project,
but
I
think
Google
is
not
on
that
idea
of
being
donated
to
this
protect
into
the
CN
CF
Park.
B
B
These
projects
catered
virtually
different
companies
as
an
open
source,
so
it's
also
be
also
be
considered
as
a
open
source
for
the
future
is
Pam
but
yeah,
but
us,
but
Google
is
trying
to
be
I,
think
they
are
so
attached
to
the
history
of
did
it
couldn't
couldn't
like
to
is
dat
panis
ciencia
for
any
or
personal
project.
They
also
want
this
project
is
to
be
handled
as
a
trademark
project
of
a
Google.
The
f
someone
knows
angular,
so
angular
is
also
a
trademark
project
of
a
Google,
but
some
things
are
also.
B
Then
it
takes
L
40
libraries
are
open
source,
so
kind
of
a
great.
This
idea
is
also
passionate
about
that.
They
are
making
their
self
to
that
another
another
community.
They
call
is
open
usage,
Commons
and
rightly
I-
think
they
has
three
projects.
They
are
listed
right
now.
One
is
code,
refactoring
kind
of
a
tool
and
one
is
East.
You
and
one
is
so
I
think
they
have
created
this.
It
is
opening
musician
community,
they
are
using.
B
The
a
Google
project
has
donated
them
as
to
their
open
source,
but
I
think
that's
a
very
tension
level.
Tension
of
all
topic
over
the
years
and
before
this
thing
happens,
a
two-day
our
lives.
I
saw
a
tweet
of
William
Morgan
of
liquidy
fun.
Then
they
have
to
Nate.
They
have
created
a
series
of
question.
They
are
trying
that
Google
are
doing
enough
and
but
couldn't
allow.
B
This
project
is
going
to
the
CN
CF,
also
Google
open
source
to
burn
it
is
and
that
they
are
going
this
to
the
SD
and
CF
project
why
they
are
creating.
Then
this
huge
another
community
just
for
the
Easter
project.
So
it's
a
kind
of
a
tension
for
the
last
couple
of
three
months,
but
right
now
it's
everything
that
is
to
is
going
to
the
open
usage,
and
if
everybody
have
forgiven,
sto
and
love
industry,
oh
they
have
to
move
out
open
usage,
comma,
but
I
think
Google
is
so
earlier.
B
That's
I
think
the
name
suggests
of
their
new
community
open
usage
government.
They
are
just
in
a
hurry
to
input
that
is
Theora.
They
have
to
read
more
project
in
this
community
and
I
think
might
be
in
a
future.
I
think
this,
given
a
good
name
to
their
community
as
well.
I.
Do
now
I
think
open
usage
Commons
doesn't
sound
anyone.
B
Raman
is
well
now
and
right
now,
as
a
as
ours
as
we
are
looking
forward
the
service
match.
We
also
has
keep
an
eye
on
that
community
as
well,
what
they
are
doing
and
what
their
goals
are,
because
many
of
the
service
meshes
already
donated
to
CN
CF.
So
we
have
two
places:
one
for
looking
to
the
CN
CF
for
service
mesh
and
another
one
open
usage
format.
B
And
they
also
need
your
thought
on
that,
because
you
are
very
very
earlier
in
in
getting
to
know
about
the
service
meshes
one
of
the
founder
I
think
you
have
wrote
books
and
who
show
the
very
few
people
they
have
talking
about
service
match
for
so
earlier.
So
first,
your
thought
on
that,
because
I
have
seen
the
thoughts
of
other
people
as
well
and
now
nadir.
A
A
It
has
a
large
personal
effect
or
you
know
it's
a
it's
a
focus
of
mine
and
for
sure
I
guess:
I'll
ask
this
just
for
others
on
the
call.
Anyone
have
any
remarks
on
on
this
news.
I
mean
it's
assigning,
though,
there's
some
great
that
you
kind
of
covered
a
lot
of
it,
but
who's
got
questions
who
thinks
this
is
a
good
move,
a
bad
move,
a
good
sign,
a
bad
sign,
some
of
us
on
the
call.
Are
it
really
invested
in
sto
and
its
future
and
I'm
sort
of
looking
at
you?
J
J
A
I
get
if,
if
you
know
in
some
respects,
depending
upon
how
I
granted
IBM
sentiment,
it's
sort
of
negative
sentiment
toward
this
decision
as
public
and
maybe
to
the
extent
that
the
pages
hold
that
sentiment,
but
don't
take
really
any
further
action,
and
you
know
then,
or
rather
I,
guess
what
I'm
saying
is
of
those
within
the
community
and
a
potential
change
that
that
stands
to
have
a
little
bit
of
an
impact
to
the
strength
of
the
community
might
be
IBM
pulling
out
or
doing
something
different.
Even
at
that
yeah
be
my
same
perspective.
A
A
Alright,
yeah
I,
don't
think
that
there's
a
hidden
agenda
going
on
at
IBM
now
about
pulling
out
or
doing
something
different,
I
think
they're,
just
dismayed.
They
and
I'm
kind
of
surprised
at
Jason,
McGee's
post,
because
while
he
may
feel
that
way
it
doesn't
crying
about,
it
doesn't
really
have
an
effect
other
than
just
others
publicly.
Knowing
that
they
disagree
yeah
anyway,
yeah
no
I
agree
find
that
the
project
will
did
that.
I
agree
that
a
large
part
of
the
value
of
the
CNC
F
for
a
project
like
sto.
A
Well,
the
Google's
interests
in
Istria,
and
it
would
have
been
detrimental
to
a
number
of
the
other
service
mesh
projects,
I
consider
and
so
from
layer.
Fives
perspective
I
couldn't
be
more
pleased
at
the
fact
that
they've
donated
it
to
our
the
the
trademarks
rather
to
open
usage
Commons,
because
it
just
means
that
the
world
will
continue
to
be
multi
mesh.
A
A
B
They
are
working
with
sto
is
to
as
a
cloud
provider
or
some
things
in
a
cloud
as
well,
and
maybe
the
figuring
out
the
some
of
the
things
they
are
might
put
out
of
the
history
of
and
make
them
publicly
as
open
source
and
to
just
asylums
the
critic
they're
doing
some
kind
of
a
parts
they
are
donating
to
the
CFCs
that
are
the
right.
Now.
B
B
That
IBM
is
going
to
have
partnership
with
the
little
D
as
well
and
I
think
IBM
might
be,
might
I
think
they
have
their
own
opinions
as
well,
but
I
think
they
might
be
shift
their
focus
away
from
the
history
of
and
some
other
multi-vise
vendor
or
might
be.
They
come
up
with
and
their
own
service
smash
because
they
are
working
in
this
field
for
over
the
years
and
right
now.
So
these
are
the
some
gossips.
A
Yeah
that
reminds
me
so
anyway,
maybe
we
should
move
on,
because
we
could
probably
talk
about
a
lot
of
that
sort
all
day.
But
there's
there
are
things
to
demo
today,
things
to
more
specific
here
that
there's
a
quick
note
that
we've
been
remiss
on
sending
out
a
newsletter
about
the
various
activities
of
initiatives
that
we
have
in
the
community,
things
that
are
new
milestones
that
have
been
achieved
and
I
admitted
some
time
ago
that
my
plate
over
spills,
that,
for
my
part,
I
can't
achieve
that.
A
But
but
there's
a
blank
document,
that's
put
up
that
everyone
should
have
access
to
that
can
be
used
to
sort
of
collaboratively
fill
in
potential
sections
to
go
into
a
newsletter.
So
pour
your
energies
into
that.
If,
if
you're
interested,
there's
a
meet-up,
that's
scheduled
for
cloud
native
Austin
next
week
and
time,
the
I
think
it
was
a
number
of
months
ago,
I
had
made
up
some
I
forget
what
the
actual
agenda
says.
But
it's
more
like
you
know
it's
like
talk
about
octarine
talk
about.
A
K
A
Very
good
we'll
get
a
link
to
that
meetup
in
case
folks
are
interested
in
seeing
it
and
then
next
topic
is
a
demo
from
Abhishek.
Hopefully,
Abhishek
had
fixed
to
at
least
two
things
recently
that
have
been
topics
of
discussion
more
times
than
I
care
to
admit
his
Abhishek
on
oh
yeah.
He
has
he
might
he
might
be
on
in
15
minutes,
or
so
he
has
a
another
meeting
going
on
2news
you
had
you
have
a
PR
open
of
which
I
thought
hey.
A
I
could
use
a
little
bit
of
an
education
on
the
topic
and
potentially
so
could
the
rest.
So
two
new
shoes
gonna,
maybe
speak
a
little
bit
about
the
notion
that
we're
redoing
the
layer
5io
website.
It's
runs
on
Jekyll
today,
we're
moving
it
over
to
Gatsby.
Maybe
we'll
use
strap
you
with
that
as
we
move
it
over
to
Gatsby
and
be
more
react.
Centric
graph
QL
comes
as
a
component
of
Gatsby
and
there
are
I
think
some
of
us
are
familiar
with
a
couple
of.
A
L
L
It
is
basically
built
on
top
of
the
graphic,
so
it
provides
all
the
features
that
graphic
user
provides.
Additionally,
that
documentation
is
I
would
say
easier
to
understand,
basically
to
write
the
queries,
it's
easier
because
the
query
they
provide
side
by
side
widths
and
on
this
here
is
also
option
to
provide
HTTP
headers
as.
A
A
A
A
A
A
E
Yeah,
like
I,
can't
show
the
live
demo
right
now,
because
I
guess
mice
in
my
system,
mini
cube,
is
not
working
due
to
some
IP
issues
like
I.
Just
changed
changed
my
Wi-Fi
password,
so
IP
got
reassigned
and
it
is
like
showing
some
error
in
API
server
and
cube
convict
not
being
configured
and
API.
Server
is
like
looking
for
the
host,
but
it
is
not
founding
it.
A
A
A
Next,
up
isn't
the
key
line.
Oh
wait.
Actually
just
one
other
comment
very
quickly
on
Davines
SMI
conformance
in
some
respects
related
to
what
we
were
talking
about
with
Sto
and
the
open
usage
Commons
of
the
while
usage
Commons
is
not
intended
to
be.
You
know
the
same
type
of
marketing
vehicle
that
the
scene
CF
is
one
of
the
as
the
open
usage
Commons
goes
to.
A
You
know
similar
to
how
it
is
that
you
may
have
a
vendor
who
offers
up
a
kubernetes
distribution
and
in
order
to
if
you're,
unaware
like
in
order
to
be
able
to
do
that.
Those
vendors
of
those
products
need
to
go
through
conformance
testing,
kubernetes
conformance
testing
to
verify
that
the
thing
that
they're,
offering
that
they're
saying
is
kubernetes
is
vetted
against
a
certain
set
of
tests
and
in
just
as
it
relates
to
the
open
usage
Commons
on
the
CNC.
F
is
the
holder
of
the
trademarks
for
its
for
the
CNC
F
projects
like
kubernetes.
A
Now
the
CNC
F
has
delegated
I
believe
it's
to
the
cube
cig
architecture,
the
sort
of
the
definition
of
what
it
means
to
conform
or
to
be
for
a
piece
of
software
to
be
kubernetes,
and
so
many
of
you
are
familiar
with
another
set
of
the
suite
of
tests
that
that
have
been
created
to
validate
whether
or
not
you
know
whether
or
not
something
passes
a
test
passed
as
a
conformance
well
in
a
similar
fashion.
As
East
iou's
marks
are
donated
to
the
open
usage
Commons,
it
will
have.
A
You
know,
it'll,
have
those
same
rights
to
assess
and
determine
you
know
in
to
dictate
when
it's
okay
to
for
a
vendor
to
use
Sto
marks
and
so
I
considered.
You
know
the
focus
that
Naveen
has
here
on
SMI
conformance
and
how
my
Sheree
is
defining
those
tests
and
running
those
tests
to
be
able
to
then
say
you
know
a
given
service
mesh
is
SMI
compatible
or,
as
my
conformant
I
thought,
I
would
make
that
connection,
sort
of
as
a
relevant
topic
that
it's
not
a
small
thing.
A
You
know
actually
with
stos
donation
or
the
the
Marc's
donations
to
the
open
usage
Commons,
we
will
see.
I
was
saying
we
would
see
at
least
one
new
service
mesh
announced
this
year
and
then
another
one
next
year,
that
for
sure
the
one
this
year
will
also
be
SMI
compatible
and
and
what
it
means
to
be
SMI
compatible
is
being
defined
in
this
project.
So
so
pretty
neat.
E
M
M
A
Yeah
it
really
it's
I.
Guess
it's
well,
it's
kind
of
interesting
that
ma
cherie
will
be
sort
of
involved
in
maybe
three
standards.
If
you
will
so,
the
one
I
think
that
most
relates
to
to
what
ID,
Nana's
saying,
which
is,
which
is
you
know
more
or
less
like
hey
since,
since
mesh
we
as
a
project
interfaces
with
any
number
of
service
meshes,
wouldn't,
wouldn't
it
make
sense?
A
If
that
was
sort
of
standard
interaction
was
standardized
and
an
idea
is
right
that
the
service
mesh
interface,
the
SMI
project,
is,
for
the
most
part.
That's
its
purpose
like
that
there
that
that
group
is
working
to
define
standard
specifications
for
how
to
interface
with
any
given
mesh,
and
so
that's
highly
interrelated,
with
measure
ease
goals
which
makes
a
ton
of
sense.
A
That's
why
I'm
measuring
and
layer
5
announced
we're
sort
of
were
partners
at
the
launch
of
SMI
and
why
I
mean
I'm,
an
SMI
maintainer,
which
is
in
part
why
we're
working
on
SMI
conformance
in
mesh?
So
you
know
you're
totally,
hitting
it
on
the
head
and
then
sort
of
with
respect
to
to
measure
II
as
a
project
and
something
like
open
usage.
A
Commons
I
think
that
there's
value
in
a
project
like
ma
cherie
there's
buy
more
value
for
a
project
like
massery,
joining
kind
of
to
Himes
point
earlier
mesh
rejoining
the
CN
CF
kind
of
for
maybe
to
two
significant
reasons.
One
is
to
help
encourage
other
service
meshes
to
put
some
teeth
in
the
you
know,
to
participate
in
measure
II
and
it's
initiatives
and
we're
we're
doing
alright
in
so
much
as
there's
a
couple
of
those
service
meshes
that
are
represented.
A
A
D
D
N
A
K
N
N
F
A
A
A
Early,
if
it's
sign,
if
it's
about
the
darker
stuff,
we'll
we'll
hold
off
on
that
Mackenzie
no
yeah,
maybe
I'm
not
wearing
my
darker
captain
badge
very
proudly.
At
the
moment,
I
mean
I
do
but
but
I'd
rather
talk
about
some
some
more
mass
specific
stuff,
which
is
one
that
comes
to
mind,
is
that
we
finally
established
a
stable
release.
Channel
yeah-
and
this
is
plagued
us
for
a
really
long
time
without
having
a
stable
release
channel
or
rather
without
having
release
channels
at
all.
A
It
is
meant
that
every
time
that
we're
merging
something
to
master
we're
basically
cutting
a
new
release,
and
that's
that's
a
little
too
fast
and
loose
even
for
how
how
risky
I
like
to
run
things
I
guess
so,
fortunately,
I
think
it
was
this.
Last
week
we
now
have
a
stable
release
channel
so
for
those
that
are
using
mesh
three
you'll
you'll
notice.
That
no
longer
should
your
well
I
guess
until
you,
maybe
when
you
upgrade
this
would
be
the
behavior.
A
And
the
behavior
would
be
that
no
longer
would
you
be
seeing
latest
tag
being
used
on
the
container
images
from
essary.
Rather,
what
you'll
be
seeing
is
able
latest,
and
it's
not
that
these
tags
make
up
the
channel.
You
know
I'll
give
a
release
channel,
but
they
they
certainly
help
facilitate
it.
There's
some
tooling
that
we
need
around
this
and
to
help
to
enable
users
to
control
which
release
channel
that
they'll
be
on.
A
A
One
of
the
reasons
we
needed
to
really
control
over
the
releases
more
so
than
then
we
had
had
is
because
we're
also
light
on
tests.
There's
we've
begun
to
incorporate
use
of
Cypress
as
a
test
framework
for
sort
of
into
end
verification,
but
we've
only
begun
to
put
in
a
first
couple
of
tests
here.
Anyone
on
the
call
to
have
experience
with
Cypress,
it's
actually
I,
think
I,
don't
know
like
the
the
sto
is
the
fourth
fastest
growing
project
on
github
and
I.
Think
Cypress
is
like
the
sixth
or
seventh
or
something
so.
A
M
A
M
M
M
But
the
thing
is
that
they
have
like
in
the
back
like
at
least
two
years,
experience
on
the
same
project
with
angular,
so
they
cut
ends
in
the
same
time
only
on
certain
area
of
the
project,
so
they
they
know.
They
know
that
that
part,
because
we
think
that
the
project
can
grow
huge
and
so
so
yeah.
The
problem
is
not
on
writing.
That
says,
the
problem
is
finding
world
understanding
the
functionality
that
is
builder
I
mean
not
even
a
problem
if,
when
that
is
fixed
with
so
my
forth
and
frustrations,.
H
A
M
M
What
can
go
wrong
before
a
demo
and
we
start
to
add
them
and
at
one
point
with
you,
what
ideas
comes
to
our
mind,
for
instance
like
make,
make
make
a
hackathon
us
for
one
day
or
to
have
today
with
the
people
in
community,
for
the
I,
don't
know
adapters
or
for
the
mesh
way
to
behave.
I,
don't
know
how,
when
these
types
of
changes
occurred
or
something
like
that,
but
for
the
beginning,
I
will
just
make
I
would
just
like
to
have
like
a
least.
M
M
But
that's
ambitious,
what
to
say,
I'm
saying
some
things
almost
with
your
own
dishes,
this
having
go.
You
know
this.
We
have
will
start
setting
relations
with
putting
there
and
if
it
happens
again,
then
you
have
a
contrast
to
on
the
thing.
That's
happened
and
we'll
see
what
we
all
don't
have
to
take.
Any
any
decision
was
to
do
easily
this
car
to
build
this
document
and
we'll
see
what
infallibility.