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From YouTube: Layer5 Community Meeting (June 5th, 2020)
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A demonstration of WinGet and Gnumake32 from @nunixtech. A @citrixsystems service mesh adapter ready to be promoted to "stable" thanks to @dheeraj_ng! // @chiradeep @PankajOnCloud
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Well,
I'll
say
that
oh
man,
boy
I,
guess
it
was
about
ten
years
ago,
my
oldest
boy
he's
11
and
what
whoa
one
of
my
younger
sisters
is
hard
of
hearing,
so
so
among
other
languages
that
I
do
very
poorly,
yet
I
I
also
know
American,
Sign,
Language,
and,
and
so
when
my
son
was
born,
we
thought
hey
yeah.
We
should
before
he
can.
You
know
vocalize
things
words.
We
should
teach
him
some
signs,
because
kids
can
do
that
and
then
doing
that
I
thought.
Well,
hey!
A
Isn't
this
a
great
excuse
to
like
finally
get
into
iOS
the
iOS
SDK,
like
you
know,
app
development
for
the
iPhone
and
so
I
ended
up
making
an
app
that
teaches
people
how
to
sign.
You
know
different.
You
know
just
basic
words
right
and
as
part
of
that
I
thought.
Well,
he
made
to
be
professional-grade
video,
where
I'm
signing
and
I'm
wearing
the
same.
A
A
A
Yeah
green
blanket
so
we're
gonna,
we're
gonna
have
some
fun.
It's
just
a
shame
that
meat
Google
meat
doesn't
actually
you
know,
do
the
same
things
that
zoom
does
with
green
screens
and
having
fun
so
anyway,
good.
That
was
the
perfect
amount
of
lollygagging.
It's
five
after
its
June,
the
fifth
Friday
we've
got
a
collection
of
you
on
the
call,
probably
a
few
others
joining.
Let's
get
going.
We've
got
meeting
minutes
in
the
link
reminder.
We
record
these
meetings,
put
them
out
on
YouTube
for
you
to
enjoy
over
and
over
and
over
again.
A
A
C
Highly
each
time,
one
good
of
an
announcement
from
other
I
think
lino
de
Coubertin.
It
is
engine
I
just
arise,
so
it's
particularly
a
very
easy
way
is.
We
have
talked
about
ETS
a
KS
and
chica
e,
so
Alka
is
a
very
light,
very
easy
to
manage
that.
So
it's
a
part
of
and
I
think
Nigel
poachin
has
some
reviews
on
that,
so,
but
in
the
next
week,
so
anybody
interesting
in
that
I
can
share
the
link
with
them.
So
Safari
I
think
it's
a
very
good
news
in
the
kubernetes
world.
A
A
C
Yes,
I
think
I
think
right
now,
I
think
they
had
kind
to
do
the
things
that
are
very
complicated
in
other
cloud
providers
and
other
when
it
is
engine,
so
they
have
shift
and
lift
everything
so
get
people.
You
can
easily
engage
with
the
kubernetes
because
in
the
world
of
kubernetes
you
have
to
know
plenty
of
the
stuff
ingress
and
there's
a
very
old
kind
of
object
sent
there.
So
they
kind
of
abstracted
away
everything
from
us
and
trying
to
do
a
very
easy
and
smooth
experience
for
the
user.
C
A
E
E
E
A
A
A
E
F
Like
a
news
or
something,
but
how
is
the
relation
with
Linux
Academy?
They
have
nice
classes
and
my
free
trainings
are
not
there.
So
I
would
love
to
to
see
some
peace.
There
are
so
many
good
workshops
you
have
not.
You
have
that
I
found
that
are
in
the
community
and
also
a
nice
thing
now,
I,
don't
know
exactly
because
I
also
have
a
paid
version,
but
even
on
the
free
you
can
have,
for
instance,
one
or
three
instances
in
AWS
and
yeah.
F
They
kind
of
stay
alive
for
one
week
or
something
like
that
and
if
you
have
the
paid
version
it.
So
it's
also
like
development
community
or
alpha
today,
I'm
really
bad
on
speaking.
But
the
thing
is
that
you
can
have
servers
there
online,
so
that
can
also
be
used
for
demo
stuff
that
different
things
related.
They
have,
they
give
you
instances
in
AWS
and
so
on.
F
The
thing
you
don't
know
to
tell
you
exactly
because
I
have
a
paid
instance
and
it
I
think
it's
valid
one
week,
and
then
you
can
always
regenerate
it.
I
can
have
like
three
of
them
or
more
either
non
or
11.
I
have
to
I,
have
to
look
I.
Remember
because
I
received
the
mail
today
you
didn't
to
enter
for
for
one
week
and
we
are
gonna,
read
it,
but
that's
the
thing:
it's
it's.
It's
a
cool
thing.
I.
D
F
Had
it
for
free
but
I,
don't
know
for
free
how?
How
long
was
it
or
it
if
it
was
only
one
service
server
or
something
like
that,
but
otherwise
a
subscription
is
pretty
cheaper
and
you
might
you
might
have
you
might
made
the
partnership
with
them
in
order
to
have
something
for
free
or
does
it
make
sense?
What
I'm
speaking
of
oh.
A
No,
it's
it's
some
highly
relevant.
We
a
couple
of
quick
examples
are
that
we
spend
some
time
doing
that
through
the
o'reilly
platform
and
that's
and
that's
time
well
spent
and
that
there
have
been
some
in
the
community
that
have
asked
us
to
go
put
it
on
their
platforms.
That
aren't
that.
I
don't
know
that
many
of
you
necessarily
are
aware
of
some
of
you
actually
might,
because
I
think
one
of
the
platforms
is
prominent
in
india,
but
so
has
the
Linux.
F
F
The
resources
are
are
much
more
and
there
are
like
three
versus
the
one
from
that
I
had
on
the
Google
cloud,
which,
at
the
beginning
were
three
resources,
but
at
one
point
either
November
or
February.
They
decided
it's
not
free
anymore
and
so
and
yeah
I
mean
I
yeah.
It
was
like
something
with
two
nodes
with
kubernetes
things
like
that
one
three
courses
at
one
point:
oh
my.
A
Gosh
yeah,
yeah,
actually
actually
I'll,
say
one
other
thing
on
that
topic
and
that's
something
that
we've
described
a
little
bit
here
in
on
these
calls
in
the
past,
and
that
is
that
well
well,
a
couple
things
one
is
to
the
it
is
in
part
two.
The
initial
goal
of
measure
e,
which
was
to
help
educate
people
about
service
meshes
in
mastery,
continues
to
be
helpful
in
that
regard.
There
are
more
things
to
be
done
to
it
to
make
it
more
helpful
for
learning.
A
The
other
thing
that's
probably
noteworthy
here
is
that
we
were
we've
considered
well
we're
actually
making
a
sample
app
right
now
for
SMI
conformance
for
a
service,
special
interface
conformance
and
that
sample
app
will
be
used
to
do
a
SMI
conformance
testing,
but
but
can
also
be
used
to
help
people
learn
the
functionality
of
a
service,
mesh
and
I.
Think
I
lost
my
original
point.
That
was
going
to
say
something
about,
but
anyway,
irrespective
that
that's
this
this
suggestion
this
is
certainly
one.
A
Yeah,
it's
really
good
and
actually
I'm
hopeful
that
there's
a
few
of
you
O'reilly
and
specific.
Just
that
one
platform
is
asking
a
lot
of
us
or
I.
Think
a
lot
of
us
that
they're
asking
for
a
couple
of
books
right
now,
I'm
another
one
after
those
they're
asking
for
more
than
the
training
that
we're
doing
right
now.
So
I
asked
you
for
like
three
different
trainings
and
then
maybe
some
shorter
labs
and
just
there.
A
They're
not
being
shy
with
their
asks,
and
so
I'm
really
pleased
about
that,
because
I
consider
that
it
opens
up
opportunity
for
those
that
are
interested
in
this
community
to
go.
Do
it
and
to
go
use,
measure
e
or
to
teach
people,
and
so
so
good
I
know
that
some
of
you
have
signaled
your
interest
in
some
of
those
activities,
and
so
I
will
be
following
up
for
sure.
G
A
G
D
A
It's
I
consider
it's
a
it's.
A
great
route
to
market
I
mean
it
import.
It
takes.
It
does
kind
of
the
hard
bit
for
the
customer
while
enabling
a
bit
of
continuous
delivery
for
the
customer.
If
you're
able
to
if
you're
managing
half
of
that
half
of
what's
going
on
you're
able
to
upgrade
I
guess
I
may
be
a
good
question
for
you
did.
A
Was
it
ever
the
case
that
there
were
active,
active
users
of
the
managed
control
plane
that,
while
they
did
have
workloads
on
Prem,
that
you
were
upgrading
the
control
plane
in
flight?
Of
course?
Yes,
and
how
did
you
in
the
coordination
of
that
was?
That
was
that
you
were
just
coordinating
in
an
update
of.
G
A
Very
good,
alright
last
last
announcement,
and
that
is
that
again,
I
didn't
have
time
to
prep.
Today's
call
so
we've
had
any
number
of
new
community
members
joining
this
last
week,
which
which
is
great
some
some
users,
some
would-be
contributors,
and
it's
always
nice-
to
acknowledge
those
folks
and
as
part
of
that,
it's
my
duty
to
welcome
Louis
Louis.
How
are
you
thanks
for
joining
good.
H
Glads
joinin
happy
to
it's
a
kind
of
dig
deeper
into
the
goat,
I'm,
so
kind
of
getting
some
sauce
to
hit
it
with
the
company
itself
and
just
what
will
be
happening.
Moving
forward,
yeah
nice
to
meet
ich
for
actually
pointing
this
out
in
because
I
did
need
something
new
to
kind
of
keep
me
from
just
doing
what
I
do
at
work
working
spreading
to
some
new
tech.
A
H
H
Currently,
the
majority
of
my
time
was
spent
in
to
creation,
so
I
I'm,
trying
to
figure
out
how
to
work
this
properly.
I
was
not
expecting
this
question,
but
it's
mainly
into
creation
focused
around
artificial
intelligence
with
some
that's
a
really
crappy
term,
but
it's
in
natural
language,
processing
models
and
intent
processing,
but
overall
I
kind
of
like
digging
into
multiple
things.
A
lot
of
my
side
projects
are
database
related
and
I
have
based
on
my
previous
previous
company,
which
Nitesh
and
I
worked
at
I
have
a
real,
deep
love.
H
H
What
does
that
look
like,
so
the
main
points
that
the
company's
pushing
for
this
is
the
work
I
do
at
work
work.
The
main
points
of
the
companies
pushing
for
is
lessening
the
the
need
for
humans
for
human
interactions
whenever
you're
speaking
to
whenever
you
call
a
call
centre,
and
you
get
that
really
horrible.
Automated
little
voice
thing
yeah.
B
H
Try
to
make
it
so
that
you
can
speak
to
it
naturally,
so
it's
natural
interactions
instead
of
guided,
yes
nose
and
putting
a
number.
So
you
can
just
say
whatever
you
want
to
say:
I,
don't
know
if
I
can
actually
divulge
in
any
of
the
companies
that
we
work
with.
But
let's
just
say
because
of
the
whole
covert
thing
and
the
human
aspect
of
the
feel
going
down
it.
F
H
A
Got
it
okay,
now
cool
nice,
there's
that
there's
a
gal
nippur
who's
in
the
community.
She
actually
plays
a
role
in
the
community
doing
a
few
things.
One
of
those
is
being
a
mesh
mate
being
a
an
onboarding
partner
for
folks
that
are
new
in
the
community
and
anyway,
I
mentioned
her,
mostly
because
she
too
has
been
actually
she's
actively
working
on
an
NLP
project
right
now,
so
anyway
welcome
Lois,
it's
good
to
have
you
thank.
F
H
A
A
We
had
just
noticed
that
it
looked
like
there
was
a
medical
centric
service
mesh
that
had
entered
into
the
landscape
into
the
ecosystem,
called
a
hub
bucket
and
I
think
that
their
website
is
hub,
bucket
dot,
X
Y
Z,
but
they
have
an
invalid
certificate
on
the
site.
So
so
so
visitor,
beware,
I,
guess,
and
so
as
part
of
maintaining
the
surface
mesh
landscape,
and
we
generally
try
to
amass
you
know
a
collection
of
all
of
the
surface
meshes
out
there,
and
so
Gunjan
I
was
of
the
top
of
this
topic.
A
Yes,
okay,
yeah
in
in
in
just
a
few
words
it
is.
It
is
essentially
that
that,
if
you
can
find
a
way
of
contacting
them
to
asking
them,
if
they're
interested
in
having
how
bucket
represented
on
the
surface,
mesh
landscape
and
just
kind
of
inviting
them
to
come,
make
a
pull
requests
inviting
them
to
come.
Add
themselves
to
the
list.
A
G
Alright,
so
over
the
the
past
days,
if
not
weeks,
I
always
add
some
requests
to
to
say
like
okay,
we
are
on
Windows
and
we
want
maybe
to
to
let's
say,
develop
directly
from
PowerShell
in
from
Windows
no
wsl
attached,
which
pains
me
by
the
way,
but
okay
I
can
get
some
of
WSL
on
it
or
cannot
have
double
cell
needs.
So
since
built
since
three
weeks,
one
month
now
already
Microsoft
announced
the
the
wind
gets
package
manager
for
Windows.
G
So
it's
a
competitor
or
one,
a
big
competitor
for
now
of
chocolaty
for
the
ones
who
know
that
or
scoop,
but
strengths
here
is
that
they
have
a
yam
all
type
of
manifest
file
that
can
tell
okay
how
to
install
your
tool.
Okay,
so
you
have
normally
your
setup
XE
on
may
be
on
github
or
somewhere
else,
and
this
manifests
will
be
in
the
Windgate
repository
and
that
will
direct
you
linked
to
it.
So,
let's
do
maybe
directly
a
demo
quickly.
A
G
So
the
tool-
okay,
sorry,
first
of
all,
maybe
let's
do
here
and
let's
go
here.
The
tool
is
called
Wingate's.
So
if
you
type
wind
gets
on
Google
you
will
see
when
get
CLI
should
be
the
first
one
to
come,
and
here
on
release
you
have
the
package,
the
bundle
once
you
installed
it.
It's
it's
name
is
really
CLI.
So
it
that's
what
it
is.
G
So
here
you
will
have
the
Windgate
commands
that
you
can
run
and
for
now
it's
quite
let's
say
easy
to
get
your
head
around
mainly
to
install
you
will
use
the
search
like
normal
gets
if
you
want
or
brew
and
install
okay,
so
here
to
have
now
the
mystery
now.
Okay,
that's
the
focus
for
now.
So
I
make
my
famous
short.
I
will
directly
focus
on
mystery
so
for
getting
ready
with
mystery
and
being
able
to
compile
it
directly
from
powershell.
G
We
will
need
gates,
so
you
will
do
like
if
you
do
like
win,
get
install
gates,
it
will
do
like
a
search
here
and
then
it
will
tell
you
like
okay,
that's
many
of
them
so
to
install
get,
and
that's
the
only
one.
Actually,
if
you
want
the
get
command
line,
or
maybe
better,
you
can
now
have
the
get
up
desktop
directly.
Okay,
so
looks
like
that.
G
So
it's
quite
nice
I,
like
it
quite
a
lot
but
anyway,
so
here
once
you
install
this,
one
here
gets
which
I
did
already
so
you'll
be
able
to
type
get,
and
now
you
have
get
on
PowerShell,
okay
or
Windows
side,
then
the
next
one
and
now
I
will
just
do
search
because
I
already
pre-installed
it
if
I
just
do
make.
For
example,
if
I
search
make
now
I
have
this
new
in
30
to
make
for
Windows.
Okay.
That
will
be
the
same
so
here
if
I
just
copy
its
I.
G
G
Okay
might
take
maybe
more
time
that
I
expected.
Maybe
why
because
I'm
sharing
but
anyway,
okay
now
here
we
go
so
while
it
downloads
it.
So
you
do
to
make
and
again
you
will
do.
Go
afterwards,
so
here
you
can
see
that
make
run
the
Installer
automatically
and
now,
if
I,
just
to
make
I
have
like
again,
okay
didn't
find
anything,
that's
normal.
G
G
So
it
will
be
quite
fast
fully
again
alright
and
now
I
can
move
into
my
Sri
CTL,
because
that's
where
the
questions
arised,
okay,
here,
if
I
do
it
here,
you
can
see
that
I've
liked
the
make
file,
so
I
can
do
a
cat's
in
PowerShell
for
the
ones
who
didn't
know
can
do
a
cats,
and
here
normally
I
have
for
win.
Okay,
that
will
do
go
build
of
Mishra
CTL
directly.
Okay,
so
if
I
do
a
make,
I
could
do.
I
could
run.
G
Of
course,
let's
say:
go
the
go
command
directly
rights
but
as
we
are
doing
it
so
let's
say
the
we
the
Linux
way
on
Windows,
just
to
show
you
that
it's
possible.
So
if
I
do
a
make
for
win
here,
we
go
and
now
I
can
do
measure
ECT,
Alexei
and
system
status,
for
example,
there's
nothing
running
and
if
I
do,
the
system
starts,
I
have
normally
already
did
my
I
pulled
it
before
I'm,
cheating,.
G
And
the
thanks
to
the
work
here
we
go
so
we
have
here.
You
can
see
that
I'm
running
on
doctor
desktop
for
the
ones
who
know
now
we
have
the
nice
command,
docker
context,
LS
and
you
can
see
my
kubernetes
endpoints.
Is
this
one
and
again
remember
that
Mishra
basic
runs
on
docker
still
right?
So
if
I
do
a
docker,
PS
I've
here
my
containers
but
T
to
lot,
it
will
be
attached
now
to
my
darker
desktop
and
if
I
ping
it
yeah.
That's
that's
that's
again
here!
It's
okay!
That's
not
you
at
all!
G
It's
really
me
who
has
no
here
we
go
so!
Okay,
sorry
I!
Did
it
fast,
so
on
upload
config,
here
I'm
on
my
user,
ok
and
dot
cube,
and
here
you
can
see
the
config
file
that
darker
desktop
actually
creates
for
you
and
in
sides.
You
can
see
forget
micro
case
for
now,
but
you
can
see
doctor
desktop
and
yeah
other
context
if
you
have
it
of
kubernetes,
but
now
I
can
ping
it.
So
I
can
go
back
clicking
here
and
just
as
small
we
saw
that
weekly,
but
just
a
small
cash
issue.
G
G
I
G
A
A
G
G
So
if
I
do
something
like
that's
here
and
then
I
backtick,
if
I
press
enter
now,
you
see
I
am
entering
now
the
like
a
normal
normal
shell
and
if
I
keep
the
backslash,
though
it
will
complain,
I
mean
it's
enter
and
we
never
so
here
the
make
run
local.
If
you
just
replace
the
back
station
or
make
wind
run
local
or
run
local
wing
I,
don't
know,
then
you
might
be
able
to
because
now
yeah
it
will
not
to
die
to
not
do
dia
that
there's
no,
nothing.
G
G
G
G
G
So
here,
first
of
all,
you
have
like
shortcuts
right.
So
if
I
want
to
run
I'm
going
to
I
call
just
I
say:
control
shift
5
and
it
goes
my
tab
on
Ubuntu
directly
then
I'll,
chief
d,
it's
like
duplicating
it.
Okay
control
ship
W,
its
you
can
close
it
and
then
you
can
like
it's
like
all
shifts
for
always
going.
G
Let's
say
horizontal
breaks
or
I.
Think
it's
plus
sign
the
plus
I'll
shift
+,
and
then
you
can
like
do
that
yeah.
Finally,
now
I
don't
remember
but
I'll
shift.
You
know
control
shift.
You
either
I,
don't
remember,
but
in
my
settings
you
can
set
your
own
split
planes.
Yeah,
okay,
I
didn't
do
it,
but
you
can
do
like
sorry,
let's
mean
to
ctrl+
you
go,
you
can
do
your
own
commands,
okay
for
splitting
panes
or
doing
maybe
other
things
so
yeah.
G
It's
I
mean
it's
getting
there
really
and
when
you
have
like
a
long
I,
don't
know
like
if
I
go
back,
then
I
do
a
dear
several
dears,
let's
say:
okay,
now
I
can
do
control,
F
doesn't
work,
okay,
control
shift,
f3
and
now,
if
I
search
for
a
mystery,
CTL
I
can
see.
You
see
my
mouse
here
moving
right,
so
we
can.
You
can
search
in
the
Indo
terminal
directly,
so
yeah,
that's
that's
quite
that's
quite
I
mean
that's
like.
If
you
compare
to
the.
Let
me
just
run
and
I'm
going
to
like
that.
G
C
C
Which
of
doing
that,
so
we
have
a
PowerShell
everything
in
the
ones
separate
window
really
like
they
have
used
their
abs
code
extension
for
debugging,
because
we
have
running
the
vs
code
as
a
UI
in
the
windows
and
their
terminal
in
the
Linux
environment,
and
that's
our
really
liked
about
it.
That's
a
Linda's
extension
on
the
back.
How
your
experience
for
that!
Have
you
tried
the
mutually
putting
that
I'm.
G
No
developer
now
just
stop
there,
but
yeah
I'm
using
vs
code
with
W
cell,
but
there's
wsl
code
also
with
docker
directly
so
but
that's
the
same
experience
there
as
in
in
mac
and
linux,
simply
thats.
They
have
these,
like
you
said
the
the
vs
code.
Ui
is
windows-based
and
then
you
can
have
mishra
running
on
SS
l2,
for
example.
If
you
want
to
stay
on
the
Linux
side
of
things
and
w
vs
code
knows
the
paths
and
everything
of
double
cell
so
yeah.
Definitely
it's
great
tools
integrations.
C
No
no
I
I'm,
also
thinking
about
it,
could
be
go
for.
Are
you
YouTube
webinar,
for
how
to
run
Miss,
reusing,
WC,
w
SL
and
using
all
kind
of
that
I?
Think
we
can.
We
do
the
eternal
for
a
youtube
series,
as
I
said,
should
be
a
great
be
given
even
people.
People
can
finally
just
type
search
other
YouTube,
and
that
can
move
in
that
yeah.
G
Yeah
sorry
I'm
very
specialized
on
the
city,
installation
part
and
everything
so
then
I
always
let's
say,
fall
back
to
Lee
when
it
comes
for
the
performance
really
like
the
performance
aspect
and
after
of
the
service
meshes
and
everything
so
but
yeah.
Definitely
if
you
want
to
do
just
something
again:
I'm
just
working
I'm,
not
at
all
these
so
but
outside
my
work
hours.
Definitely
we
can
set
some
like
a
small
series.
That's
what
I'm
doing
with
the
friends
now
for,
as
you
assured
at
our
but
yeah
gladly.
A
I
Yeah
I
mean
I,
don't
take
more
than
30
40
seconds.
I
was
just
saying
that
like
we
are,
we
have
been
using
slack
for
a
lot
of
of
the
discussions,
but
you
know
just
one
mode
more
people
who
want
to
join
as
developers.
We
kick
and
create
more
and
more
discussion
tags
with
regards
to
say
the
UI
to
be
messy
before
the
CI
CD
workflow.
You
know
basically
just
create
those
and
so
that
we
sort
of
you
know,
promote
this
discussions,
and
this
see
if
it's
working
out
great.
Otherwise
you
can
continue
to
use
slack.
I
So,
as
you
know,
it's
something
that
we
got
like
one
of
the
earliest
access
to
discussions,
so
I
mean
then
this
sort
of
thinking,
because
it
allows
us
to
like
you,
know,
link
any
issue
and
you
pull
requests
from
github
itself.
So
it
becomes
a
you
know,
sort
of
easier
to
also
use
this
I
mean,
like
I,
mean
to
be
able
to
adapt
to.
I
You
know
this
losing
one
platform
itself
for
discussing
C
on
any
of
the
potential
bugs
that
might
be
there
or
some
feature
requests
with
regards
to
any
pull
requests
or
to
the
issue.
So
I
mean
that
using
it
of
you
know,
discussions
reduces
that,
like
you
know
that
medium
of
say,
slack
that
we're
using
so
basically
removing
one
of
the
layers
from
this
to
have
it.
Like
you
know,
sort
of
would
like
I
would
say
say
we
can
try
this
out
as
I.
I
A
Won't
we
won't
get
rid
of
slack,
it
will
little
that
said
there
there.
It
is
a
free
slack
and
so
there's
a
lack
of
history
at
some
point
and
there's
it's
natural
for
a
lot
of
people
to
initiate
a
private
conversation
to
get
a
sense
of
something
and
for
the
conversation
to
sort
of
ensue
from
there.
While
the
first
question
or
the
first
interaction
of
that
private
conversation
is,
maybe
you
may
be
appropriate
or
maybe
just
more
comfortable
to
have
privately.
A
As
the
conversation
unfolds
to
Shiva
is
point,
many
of
the
most
of
the
rest
of
the
community
would
have
benefited
from
that
conversation,
and
so
the
lack
of
posterity
and
and
the
lack
of
transparency
for
some
of
those
conversations
hurts
bringing
in
another
mechanism.
Other
venue
for
conversation
can
be,
can
also
have
the
adverse
effect
of
people
being
upset
that
they,
they
didn't
know
that
or
they
didn't
see
it
and
feel
like
they've
got
to
go
check.
A
But
there's
some
amount
of
ambiguity
about
the
approach
to
it
initially
and
and
that
this
format
can
be
a
bit
easier,
maybe
to
digest
than
a
long
comment.
History
on
an
issue
that
was
initially
described
with
a
certain
description,
but
that
descriptions
may
be
totally
different
from
what
it
it.
Currently.
You
know
what
it
ended
up
being
that
the
short
of
what
I'm
saying
is
I
think
that
there
is
a
place
for
these
discussions.
I
think
that
we
should
give
it
a
go.
A
So
anyway,
I'm
gonna
I'm
gonna,
move
on
without
soliciting
further
comment,
because
two
other
items
to
highlight
one
is
that
there's
a
convenience
operator,
if
you
will
that,
can
each
cars
recently
worked
on.
So
those
of
you
that
have
used
measure
e
in
context
with
eks
or
gke
or
aks
that
you
reckon
you
occasionally
stumble
on
the
the
fact
that
measure
e's
sort
of
first-class
experience
with
docker
desktop
leaves
you
wanting
when
you
try
to
use
mastery
with
with
them
an
EK.
A
So
I
won't.
I
won't
allow
for
comments
right
right
there,
just
because
we
have
two
minutes
left
I
wanted.
So
please
weigh
in
on
that
and
think
about
the
command
structure,
because
you
know
a
power
user,
like
Nuno,
who
has
been
using
who's
gotten
familiar
with
the
structure
of
these
commands
and
in
that
they've
been
that
same
way
for
some
time
when
we
go
to
change
them
and
as
we
recently
have
brought
forth
this
system
command
and
we
mess
with
the
flow
and
the
way
in
which
people
normally
interact
with
mesh,
we
CTL.
A
So
we
want
to
make
some
of
these.
We
want
to
be
considerate
and
make
these
changes
and
get
it
right.
The
first
time,
I
think,
is
what
I'm
trying
to
say.
So
if
you
have
opinion
on
these,
please
bring
that
opinion
to
this
dock.
The
massery
CLI
design
doc
last
thing
I'll
show
in
this
last
minute
is
that
we've
had
a
long-standing
issue
with
the
CPX
adapter
and
cush
and
Naveen
and
Dheeraj
and
I
got
together,
worked
worked
through
those
bugs.
So
now
the
CPX
adapter
is
working.
Fine
we've
got
the
appropriate
logo.
A
Here,
we've
got
the
nice.
That's
such
a
pretty
logo.
We've
got
the
the
appropriate
logo
here.
You're
now
able
to.
We
actually
are
calling
it
the
right
thing,
not
just
Citrix
we're
calling
it
and
we're
not
calling
it
CPX
we're
calling
it
Citrix
ServiceMaster.
That's
the
right
thing
that
anyway,
a
bunch
of
bugs
were
fixed,
including
bugs
that
were
play
plaguing
the
deployment
of
of
the
system
itself.
A
So
please
go
try
it
because
we're
about
to
make
that
the
the
dot
for
release
the
0.4
release,
and
it
would
be
good
if
we
could
have
this
adapter,
not
as
beta
but
as
stable.
So
if
you
haven't
so
go
try
this
one,
it
should
be
really
easy
for
any
of
you
to
try
see
if
you
get
an
sto
flick
or
a
Citrix
flavored
sto
stood
up.