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From YouTube: Layer5 Community Meeting (Jan 8th, 2021)
Description
A new meshery release is in the works!
In other news, the community congratulates Dev Kalra (@_devkalra) for successfully completing his LFX internship.
A
January
8th
first
community
meeting
of
the
year,
I
think
sriti
has
dropped
a
link
to
the
meeting
minutes
in
the
chat.
So
that
means
there's
no
excuse
for
not
having
your
name
in
the
meeting
minutes.
A
B
Our
technical
question,
but
if
we
have
time
right
now,
we
have
a
build
that
bash
shell
script.
My
friend
told
me
that
I
shouldn't
put
a
command
that
sudo,
apt-get
or
apt,
yet
some
similar.
So
is
it
correct
to
include
sudo
there
or
not?
Is
it
correct
or
is
it
safe,
technical
way
or
security
way.
A
Nice
damn
mert.
That
sounds
like
a
that
sounds
like
an
excellent
topic:
yeah,
let's
I'll
put
your
name
down
next
to
the
topic
of.
B
A
Well,
nice,
very
good,
nice
other.
A
Topics
just
I
was
hoping
someone
would
not
put
in
their
last
name
today.
I'm
feeling
feeling
ornery.
A
Oh
funny,
okay,
well,
fair
enough,
it's
so
it's
the
yeah
january
8th!
I
think
I
mentioned
that
before
and
so
welcome
everybody.
Let's,
let's
get
rolling,
there's
a
number
of
you.
I
think
that
are
on
the
call
who
who
have
has
at
this
moment,
forfeited
how
your
name
looks
so.
A
And
shredi,
if
you
could
help
me
embarrass
everyone
else,
that
would
be
great
or
maybe
embarrass
myself,
okay,
good!
Hey!
Do
we
have
any
newcomers
on
today's
call?
Anybody
fresh
for
the
first
time
on
this
call
and
once.
A
A
You
know
but
aditya.
If
you
wanna,
you
wanna
go
first.
D
Sure,
mr
lee,
hello,
everyone,
my
name
is
aditya
and
I'm
from
chennai,
which
is
in
the
southern
india,
I'm
actually
a
sophomore
at
anna
university,
pursuing
information
technology
at
chennai
and
my
interest
are
cloud
technology,
dev,
ops
and
any
part
of
a
technology
which
makes
me
interested
even
machine
learning
too.
And
yes,
my
favorite
colors
are
red
and
orange,
and
I
have
joined
the
layer
fire
community
because
of
the
lf
lfx
mentorship
program.
I
just
just
saw
the
what
you
can
say
the
measuring
project
and
it
got
me
interested.
A
A
It's
me
nice,
all
right,
yeah,
you
know
I
go,
it
goes
without
saying.
I
guess
you
know,
get
compliments
on
your
choice
of
avatar,
so
very
nice
to
have
you
thanks
for
coming.
I
appreciate
the
orange
and
red
too
that
will
take
it
out.
E
Yeah
good
morning
and
good
evening,
everybody,
my
name,
is
sean
foley,
I'm
based
in
minneapolis
minnesota.
I
currently
serve
as
a
senior
principal
engineer
for
general
dynamics
mission
systems.
I
focus
on
system
security,
engineering,
cloud
security,
vulnerability
management
and
I'm
very
interested
in
the
measuring
project.
Unfortunately,
last
couple
weeks
been
kind
of
short
on
time,
but
I'm
really
interested
in
service
mesh
for
security
purposes.
E
You
know
across
all
sorts
of
different
platforms,
so
I'm
really
interested
in
you
know
being
able
to
basically
run
a
service
mesh
at
the
at
the
touch
of
a
button
and
I'd.
You
know
played
around
with
measuring
a
bit
and
wanted
to
try
and
join
the
project
and
see
if
I
can
help
contribute
to
you
know,
documentation
and
help
people
get
a
greater
understanding
and
see
if
we
can
use
it
in
higher
security
environments
and
see
that's
that's
kind
of
where
I'm
at
from
a
technical
perspective.
E
I
got
a
nice
four
day
weekend
here.
So
when
I
saw
the
meeting
come
up
this
morning,
I
wanted
to
join
and
see
if
I
can
contribute
going
forward.
A
E
Yes,
our
company
does
a
we
call
it
a
980
schedule,
so
we
work
longer
days
we
get
every
other
friday
off,
but
then
we're
also
limited
to
80
hours
in
a
pay
period.
So
if
I
work
a
little
longer,
I
can
take
another
day
on
pto
on
monday,
with
just
a
couple
hours
of
pto.
So
I
get
a
free
weekend.
So
I'm
pretty
excited.
A
Now
is
that
open
postings
is
that
jobs
at
general
dynamics
that,
where
can
I.
E
Careers
careers
at
general
dynamics.
Yes,
a
lot
of
the
defense
industrial
base.
I
realized.
Does
that
980
schedule,
I'm
not
sure
why.
But
people
love
it
because
we
get
26
three
day
weekends
a
year
and
it's
all
scheduled
like
clockwork.
E
It
is,
it
is
that
extra
day
gives
you
a
lot
of
just
extra
time
to
think
and
relax
a
bit
about
myself.
I've
lived
in
germany
lived
in
japan
for
many
years.
I
went
to
technical
school.
I
was
teaching
in
japan
for
the
ministry
of
education,
and
I
I
wrapped
up
and
went
to
technical
school
in
india
before
outsourcing
was
a
thing
and
I've
gone
and
taken
a
lot
of
classes
in
pune
and
in
hyderabad
as
well.
A
I
was
now
that
you
say
it.
It
makes
sense
as
to
why
you
didn't
say
minnesota.
A
C
A
Well,
you'll
have
to
you
have
to
share
with
share
with
everyone.
Are
we
is
it
just
language
or
I'm
sorry?
Is
it
just
english
that
we're
you're
proficient
in
or
is
there.
E
I
speak
japanese
fairly
well,
but
it's
been
quite
a
long
time.
I
can.
I
can
understand
a
fair
amount
of
spoken
german,
but
I'm
not
very
verbal
in
german
and
my
my
hindi
is
trailed
off.
So
I
wish
I
spoke
some
hindi
or
but
I
don't
anymore.
It's
been
a
long
time.
A
Okay,
great
great
great
good,
very,
very
nice
to
have
sean
with
us
just
I
clearly.
I
take
a
lot
of
enjoyment
out
of
trying
to
harass
people,
so
this
is
nice
for
sure,
oh
boy,
so
a
couple
of
announcements.
Today,
sriti
we've
got
a
number
of
folks
who've
joined
this
week.
A
A
Yep,
all
right,
okay,
so
that's
what
two
weeks
looks
like
you
know
in
the
as
I'm
doing
my
best
to
embarrass
folks
today,
I'll
I
don't
think
he's
on
the
call,
but
I'll
call
out
otto
vanderschoff
he's
in
well
all
those
european
countries
they're
all
the
same
he's
in
oh
boy,
you're
gonna,
have
to
forgive
me:
it's
not
norway,
but
it's
either
switzerland
or
sweden.
I
think
it's
sweden,
but
I'd
call
it
otto,
because
he'll
likely
be
a
name.
A
You
might
see
pop
through
slack
a
few
times
he
just
joined
today
and
he's
a
maintainer
of
the
project
called
nighthawk
and
we'll
talk
about
nighthawk
a
little
bit
today.
So
I
expect,
will
he'll
be
an
active
member
should
be
nice
in
other
announcements.
There's
istio
con
for
the
first
time
is
coming
up.
There's
a
call
for
papers
out
there
to
the
extent
that
I
think
the
call
for
papers
the
deadline
is
this
monday.
A
I
believe
if
I
recall,
if
anyone's
interested
in
talking,
let
me
know
if
I
can
help
you
submit
a
proposal.
Let
me
know
if
you
want
to
co-present
lots
of
stuff
to
talk
about
with
the
things
that
we
do
here
so
so
we
will
be
submitting
for
sure.
A
I
wanted
to
say
also
I'm
just
on
an
embarrassment
streak
and
I
don't
know
if
I've
I
wanted
to
really
only
try
to
embarrass
one
person
today
and
that's
that's
rudolfo,
we're
gonna,
we're
gonna
talk
about
that,
but
I
think
I
made
the
mistake
of
probably
embarrassing
dev
instead,
based
on
my
really
poor
work
here
but
dev
mr
calra
has
just
completed
his
community
bridge
or
now
lfx
linux
foundation,
internship
with
with
us
and
so
dev
congrats.
You
did
a
great
job.
A
F
A
A
Nice,
probably
the
final
announcement
for
today
is
what
we
were
just
having
the
existing
maintainers
here
in
the
community
weigh
in
on
well,
their
thoughts
on
mr
vega
on
rodolfo
is
rodolfo
with
us.
A
A
But
many
of
you
know:
rodolfo
he's
been
in
the
community
for
a
while.
He
he
had
well
he'd,
attended
a
workshop
that
I
delivered
in
guadalajara
last
year
and
has
been
hanging
out
in
the
community
for
some
time
over
the
last
few
months,
he's
really
stepped
up
in
his
contributions
and
he's
he's
written
a
blog
post
out
there
on
layer,
five
that
I
owe
talking
about
the
use
of
cypress
ui
and
how
we're
using
it
in
the
project
for
functional
testing.
A
So
so
he
as
well
has
left
a
mark
and-
and
we
recently
had
a
discussion
on
him
stepping
up
and
taking
on
some
some
formal
responsibilities
by
way
of
becoming
a
maintainer.
His
area
of
focus
would
be
on
continuous
integration
and
there's
a
lot
of
continuous
integration
that
goes
around
every
single
component
that
we
have
here.
Every
repo
that
we
have
here
has
multiple
workflows.
A
A
And
so
there's
a
lot
to
do
there.
If
you
don't,
if
you
haven't
met
rodolfo,
he
he
resides
in
guadalajara.
So
you
think
he's
the
only
other.
A
Well,
no
sean
actually
is
in
the
same
time
zone
as
which
is
which
is
nice,
which
makes
it
feel
not
as
awkward
when
I
say
good
morning
to
everyone
and
so
he's
at
rackspace
he's
a
software
engineer.
He
focuses
on
rack
spaces,
managed
kubernetes,
offering
he's
currently
working
in
golang,
tooling
there
and
a
bit
of
terraform
and
a
bit
of
goling
to
help
manage
their
kubernetes
environments,
he's
quite
adept
with
react.js,
and
so,
although
I
don't
think
he
would
ascribe
the
term
to
himself
the
full
stacker
is
probably.
A
Appropriate
but
so
congrats
to
rodolfo
very,
very
pleased,
and
it's
actually
very
timely-
that
he's
stepping
up
and
stepping
in
many
of
you
have
known
cush,
trivetti
who's,
also
an
intern.
Well,
a
multiple
time
intern
here
in
the
community
and
cush
has
because
his
internships
have
ended
and
he
is
off
to
to
greener
pastures.
Kush
had
been
focused
in
continuous
integration
and,
as
a
matter
of
fact,
let's
get
into
our
first
topic
here
and
since
rodolfo
isn't
on
I'll.
A
Just
take
it
real
quick,
and
that
is
that,
as
I
was
saying,
there's
a
lot
to
do
around
continuous
integration.
We
had
had
a
standing
meeting
on
the
topic
and
I'm
going
to
pull
up,
there's,
there's
sort
of
two
versions.
I
think
of
this
particular
calendar.
This
community
calendar
there's
one
out
on
mesri,
dot,
io
and
there's
one
out
on
layer,
five
that
I
owe
really
they
say
the
same
thing
they
point
to
the
same
calendar.
A
This
doesn't
make
it
as
clear
as
I
hoped,
but
but
essentially
we
have
a
meeting
every
day,
which
is
kind
of
a
lot
and
there's
a
lot
going
on,
and
so
as
we
look
to
revive
the
continuous
integration
meeting
for
my
for
my
part,
I'm
I'm
tapped
out.
I
I
can
hardly
keep
up
with
you
guys
and
gals
as
it
is,
and
so
rudolph
was
going
to
lead
a
buy.
Well,
what's
the
right
term,
a
bi-monthly
meeting
every
every
second
and
fourth
thursday.
A
So
next,
this
next
thursday
would
be
kind
of
the
first
meeting
in
which
the
ci
working
group
or
the
ci
meeting
would
be
brought
back
to
life.
Last
time
we
met
was
back
in
august
folks,
like
adina,
who
were
on
had
been
stewards
within
this
area,
and
so
thankfully
adina
is
still
with
us.
She's
got
history
and
understanding
of
things
that
we've
done.
We've
got
a
number
of
new
components
now.
D
A
A
Nice
and
the
thing
is,
is
well
we're
going
to
talk
about
this
in
a
minute,
but
we've
got
there
are
a
number
of
new
components
coming
forth
in
measuring,
and
so
they
all
need
continuous
integration.
And
so
so
it's
a
big
topic.
Hence
I
think
we'll
have
a
lot
to
discuss
in
those
meetings.
So
so
I'll
pause
there
and
say
one
you
know
congrats
again
to
to
dev
and
to
rudolpha
two.
Does
anyone
have
comments
or
questions
on
what
we've
said
so
far.
G
B
As
a
matter
of
fact,
thanks,
I
have
a
question
about
if
we
can
make
an
awesome
list
for
both
projects,
including
projects
all
list
and
the
maintainers,
the
community
leaders.
A
Yeah,
that's
a
great
ask:
that's
a
great
asking
alert,
I
think,
between
the
two
questions
or
two
requests
that
you
just
had.
I
wonder
if
the
first
one
is
answered-
and
this
is
an
old
picture,
but
I
wonder
if
the
first
one
is
answered
by
this
document
here
it
well,
it's
an
overview
of.
A
B
A
I
will
do
it.
Oh
very
good,
yeah
there's
actually
two
other
workshops
that
we
need
to
add
here
in
case.
Anyone
wants
to
hit
that
real,
quick,
there's,
an
advanced
istio
workshop
and
there's
a
link
or
d
fundamentals
of
linker
d.
You
need
to
add,
but
yeah.
Hopefully
it
answers
your
first
question.
Your
second
question
is
well
placed
so
just
to
repeat
it
for
everyone,
and
that
is,
you
know
more
or
less
like
hey.
Is
there
a
lit?
Is
there
a
central
place
to?
A
Is
there
a
list
of
maintainers
and
what
components
that
they're
maintaining
what
what
areas
they're
maintaining
there
is,
although
it's
not
well
done,
it's
not
very
prominently
posted
as
a
matter
of
fact
on
the
topic
of
governance
at
large
there's,
not
a
lot
of
rules
that
we
have
written
down
and
as
we
look
to
potentially
donate
service
mesh
performance
smp
that
project
to
the
cncf
as
we
look
to
potentially
donate
meshri
as
a
project
in
all
of
its
components
to
the
cncf
and
as
as
we
grow
as
a
community.
A
There's
what
1300
something
of
the
people
here
in
slack
there's
across
the
projects.
There's
I
don't
know
closing
in
on
250
contributors,
people
who've
literally
committed
code,
because
contribution
is
more
than
just
code
by
the
way
that
having
some
formalized
governance
is
is
something
to
do.
I'm
gonna.
Take
that
note.
A
That's
a
great
it's
a
good
ask
immediately
like
to
help
satisfy
part
of
that
question
right
now,
they're.
If
you
go
out
to
layer,
five
io
slash
community
you'll,
you're
able
to
browse
the
list
of
people,
who've
been
here
for
a
while
people
who've,
you
know
consistently
contributed
and
well.
A
This
version
of
let's
take
this
fine.
Looking
young
gentleman
here
in
the
time
that
this
profile
has
gone
up.
Abhishek
is
actually
one
of
one
of
the
maintainers,
but
this
is
one
of
the
areas
where
you
can
peruse
for
sort
of
who's
focused
on
what
and
the
reality
is.
This
is
a
little
bit
under
done.
There's
I'll
I'll
sort
of
steal,
some
thunder,
maybe
from
nikhil
josh
and
tunus,
and
many
others
who
are
working
on
a
new
version
of
this
site.
A
And
as
in
doing
so
it
this
looks
familiar
but
they've
significantly
enhanced
part
of
what
people
are
able
to
quickly
filter
on
which
is
on
maintainers
and
on
former
maintainers,
and
so
this
list
is
incomplete,
we're
missing
some
maintainers.
Thank
goodness.
This
is
still
a
still
a
work
in
progress.
B
Can
we
automate
like
synchronization.
A
No,
and-
and
the
reason
being
is
because-
and
I
don't
mean
to
say
that
curtly
in
any
regard-
that's
a
great
question
that
would
be
awesome.
Here's
the
problem
with
trying
to
automate
to
automate
what
it
means
for
someone
to
be
active
or
inactive
or
to
be
a
contributor
or
to
be
a
maintainer.
A
Is
it
ain't
all
about
the
code?
Is
one
thing
just
by
virtue
of
the
fact
that
aritya
joined
this
call
today
and
said
hi
and
told
us
what
his
favorite
colors
are.
Among
other
things,
that's
that's
a
level
of
engagement.
I
really
appreciate
that
he's
here
at
some
point.
If
he
keeps
doing
it
and
he
keeps
even
if
he
all
he'd
ever
did-
was
sort
of
make
some
comments
every
now
and
again.
A
Well,
that's
a
form
of
contributing
like,
and
so
my
point
is:
there's
there
there's
an
individual
in
the
community.
Actually
who's
joined
the
calls
pretty
consistently
for
a
little
over
a
year
hasn't
so
much.
As
said,
one
word
on
the
calls.
I've
had
personal
conversations
with
him
literally
hasn't
said
one
word.
I
really
appreciate
that
he
comes.
He
learns
a
lot.
He
says
some
things
privately,
every
now
and
again,
but
just
doesn't
feel
comfortable
on
the
calls
that
individual
is
a
you
know.
A
Anyway,
point
is
long-winded
way
of
saying
it's
more
than
just
code
so
and
so
automating.
It
is
like
ain't
gonna
happen.
The
thing
is
we
take
the
community
pretty
damn
seriously
anyway,
and
so
every
single
individual
in
the
community
has
has
a
name
and
a
background,
and
oh
my
lord,
it's
a
lot
of
work
to
try
to
keep
up,
but
thus
far
we
haven't.
So.
My
point
is
is
like
we
wouldn't
get
the
automation
right
anyway.
B
Only
yeah
yeah
because
it
is
a
gamifying,
it's
it's
gamifying
the
community
and
then
you
have
levels
and
you
see
who
is
active
or
you
have
points
kind
of.
I
A
A
If
you're
not
familiar
with
discourse,
if
you
don't
think
that
you're
familiar
with
discourse,
you
probably
are-
or
you
may
very
well-
be
it's
sort
of
a
new
age
bulletin
board.
If
you
will
it's
a
way
of
it's
a
forum
set
of
forums
and
some
open
source
software
to
let
help
you
host
forums-
and
there
are
many
many
many
people
just
coming
to
learn-
service
meshing,
so
yeah.
We
would
like
to
have
a
service.
A
discourse
instance.
A
Good,
we
have
a
couple
other
topics,
I'm
I
apologize.
This
isn't
always
the
way
it
is.
I
apologize
that
a
lot
of
these,
I'm
speaking
to
let's
try
to
change
that
real,
quick
we've
all
been
working
toward
the
next
measuring
release
and
thanks
to
all
of
you,
that's
it's
going
to
be
significant
and
so
dev
dhruv
abhishek
wudkarsh.
A
J
J
So
the
new
release
consists
of
a
new
component.
It
introduces
new
component,
which
is
called
a
machine
operator
which
is
again
the
same.
It
is
one
of
kubernetes
operator
that
we
have
developed
in
order
to
facilitate
a
couple
of
components
inside
the
cluster
which
runs
inside
the
cluster,
gets
gather
some
data
from
inside
and
gives
it
back
to
measuring,
and
so
do
we
have
architecture.
J
Let
me
or
is
it
okay,
if
I
just
verbally,
destroy
it
sure
all
right,
so
the
machine
operator
is
a
component
that
that
handles
and
manages
all
of
the
components
that
belongs
to
meshi
inside
the
cluster.
J
Right
now
we
have
planned
with
two
main
major
components
that
offer
great
visibility
from
inside
the
cluster
forward,
machine
which
are
mesh
sync
and
a
broker,
which
is
interacting
ads,
that
we
are
using
the
mesh
sync
as
a
service
is
nothing
but
a
custom,
kubernetes
controller
that
gathers
all
the
resources
that
discovers
all
the
resources
that
are
present
inside
the
cluster,
all
the
deployment
spots
and
what?
What
whatever
is
present
inside
the
kubernetes
cluster
and
discovers
all
those
data
and
then
helps
measure
to
to
be
able
to
discover
all
of
them?
J
It
gives
back
the
whole
discovery
data
to
mesh
sync,
and
this
is
been
facilitated
by
the
broker
that
we
talked
about,
so
the
so
the
architecture
is
that
mesh
sync
would
discover
all
the
components
gives
it
back
to
mishri
via
the
broker,
and
the
importance
of
missing
here
is
that
now,
whenever
measuring
is
being
booted
up,
we
don't
have
any
if,
if
the
cluster
has
been
configured
with
something
previously,
we
won't
have
that
data
reflected
in
meshi.
J
But
after
introducing
missing
in
the
picture,
while
the
machinery
server
has
been
booting
up,
we
will
all
those
configurations
and
all
those
changes
that
was
previously
done
on
the
cluster
would
also
be
would
also
be
reflecting
in
the
measure.
Dashboard,
and
the
operator
that
I
mentioned
earlier
is
is
a
manager
that
controls
the
life
cycle
of
both
the
broker
and
the
mesh
sink
and
yeah.
This
is
basically
one
of
the
major
changes
that
we
are
going
to
bring
in
on
the
on
the
coming
up,
measuring
release.
J
Lee
do
you
want
to
add
something
onto
it?
Yeah
quote
questions
like
like.
A
Who
who's
got
questions?
Can
you
please.
K
A
Them,
which
is
what
the
hell
is
nas,
it's
probably
one
of
them
another
one
is,
I
heard
about
graphql,
but
what's
the
difference
between
that
and
rest,
I
suspect
another
one
might
be
a
kubernetes
controller,
a
custom
controller.
Okay!
C
A
C
E
A
C
A
Totally
yeah,
one
thing
I
guess
I
will
add
about
this
set
of
these.
This
set
of
new
components
is
well
is
to
is
to
highlight
mesh
sync.
This
is
I'm
going
to
bring
this
up.
This
is
a
horrifically
horrifically
ugly
diagram,
but
it
reinforces
the
point
of
what
I'm
about
to
say,
which
is
that
this
custom
controller
mesh,
sync
that
gets
deployed
and
runs
inside
of
kubernetes
there'll,
be
one
instance
of
mesh
sync
running
per
kubernetes
cluster.
Its
job
is
to
well.
A
I
hate
to
use
the
word
to
the
same
word,
to
describe
the
thing
that
in
the
definition,
but
it's
to
synchronize
it's
to
it's
to
make
sure
that
messagery
as
a
management
plane
as
a
piece
of
management.
Software
is
continually
up
to
speed
with
changes
that
are
occurring
within
the
cluster,
particularly
around
elements
that
meshrie
is
managing
those
elements.
A
The
first
class
elements
are,
you
know,
various
components
of
the
mesh
so
proxies
in
the
data
plane,
so
all
of
the
service
meshes
themselves
all
of
their
internal
details,
as
well
as
the
applications
or
the
workloads
that
are
running
on
those
service
meshes,
and
so
that's
that's.
Mesher's
core
function
and
in
many
respects-
and
this
is
this-
is
sort
of
how
the
meshri
operator
logo
came
to
be
in
many
respects.
A
It
ends
up
pumping
all
kinds
of
info
about,
what's
happening
inside
the
cluster,
pumping
it
back
to
the
various
components
of
measuring
pumping
it
over
to
measures
user
interface,
so
that
we
can
have
a
visual
topology
to
show
people
visually
what's
going
on
and
where
traffic
is
flowing
and
that
kind
of
a
thing
to
to
be
able
to
execute
workflows
on,
to
be
able
to
reason
over
and
evaluate
policies
about
how
people
want
to
run
their
mesh
using
all
that
info
needs
to
be
so.
A
This
machinery,
this
heart
needs
to
be
super
fast
built
for
purpose
in
terms
of
in
terms
of
being
able
to
scale
up,
and
so
in.
The
internals
of
mesh
tank
include
a
couple
of
different
stages
of
discovery,
so
that
discoveries
being
done
and
as
efficiently
as
possible.
A
A
I
think
the
the
operations
of
meshsync
are
and
this
whole
flow
and
the
way
that
this
works
is
highly
interesting
and
it's
it's
taken
well,
a
collection
of
a
lot
of
people
to
to
finally
get
this
done,
and
I
I
this
is
like
with
this
message.
You
know
beyond
a
dot
five,
it's
closer
to.
You
know
having
the
the
core
architectural
components
to
that
that
I
think
that
that
it
needs
to
be
able
to
achieve
a
1.0.
A
It's
not
all
the
way
there
there's
a
couple
of
architectural
components
that
are
missing
and
and
really
actually
those
are
a
couple
that
we've
been
showing
here
there
there's
no
workflow
engine
in
meshri,
but
there
ought
to
be
there's
no
ability
to
describe
or
to
evaluate
policies
in
measuring,
but
there
probably
ought
to
be,
and
so
just
for
some
of
you
like,
as
you
look
forward
between
what's
on
roadmap
from
you
know,
halfway
to
1.0
to
1.0
like
these
are
two
of
the
more
significant
components.
A
There's
a
side
component
that,
like
that,
I
don't
know
if
it's
appropriate
to
really
refer
to
it
as
a
component.
But
for
those
of
you
who
are
familiar
with
the
fact
that
any
service
mesh
that
is
using
envoy
in
its
data
plane
envoy
supports,
like
other
proxies
like
nginx
and
like
aj
proxy.
A
A
So
maybe
you
want
to
maybe
the
proxy
that
you're
using
is
aware
of
http
traffic,
but
it's
not
aware
of
gnats
traffic
or
kafka
traffic
or
postgres,
sql
or
but
you'd
like
to
intercept
that
type
of
traffic
and
have
your
proxy
be
intelligent
and
do
intelligent
things
based
on
the
information
based
on
a
protocol
specific
set
of
information
anyway,
there's
a
new
sort
of
newfangled
way
of
doing
that,
and
it's
be,
you
know
it's
growing
in
popularity.
A
It
has
to
do
with
with
webassembly
wassum
and
linker
d's
proxy,
which
is
custom
written
for
linker
d.
It's
written
in
rust,
it's
looking.
It
has
a
roadmap
to
support
webassembly
filters
as
well
and
so
anyway.
Consequently,
if
you've
ever
sat
on
the
mesherie.io
for
a
little
while
and
sort
of
watched
as
the
slides,
auto
progressed-
or
if
you
looked
at
this,
you
know
what
it's
better.
A
If
we
do
this
so
if
suffice
to
say
part
of
that,
the
part
of
getting
to
1.0
is
to
have
mastery
support,
webassembly
filters,
and
it
does
today
just
not
in
a
robust
way.
Today
you
can
go,
deploy
an
istio
service
mesh.
You
can
have
meshri
dynamically
insert
a
new
custom
filter
into
your
side,
your
side
card
proxies,
but
it's
a
fairly
static
functionality.
That's
been
delivered
thus
far
and
it
needs
to
be
enhanced
and
made
generic
and
so
visually.
A
A
But
I
know
some
of
that's
a
lot
for
some
folks
and
for
others,
it's
old
news,
but
to
help,
but
but
to
just,
I
guess,
characterize
a
little
bit
of
where
we're
at
overall
sort
of
on
our
journey
to
to
being
you
know,
architectural
component
complete,
if
you
will
major
step
like
by
any
other
measure,
what's
been
done
here
between
the
v04
and
the
v05.
A
It
absolutely
warrants
a
major
release,
a
tick
in
the
major
box,
but
we're
just
not
production
red
like
the
we're,
not
production,
ready.
Yet
here's
the
thing
but,
interestingly,
I
haven't.
Has
anyone
gone
over
and
counted
up
when
we
add
nginx
service,
mesh
adapter
and
the
tr
the
tray
traffic
mesh
adapter?
E
E
I'm
just
I'm
bringing
that
up
because
we're
banned
from
using
nginx
in
production
because
of
who
controls
it.
A
That
makes
total
sense
yeah
a
lot
of
well
there's
some
folks
on
this
call
who
are
actually
very
so
the
answer
is
yes
I'll
just
expand
to,
and
that
is
all
of
the
the
framework
that's
used
for
the
adapters
has
been
as
essential
has
essentially
been
rewritten
recently,
not
essentially
like
it
was
entirely
rewritten,
and
so
that's
really
nice,
because
putting
out
new
adapters
and
enhance
making
the
ones
that
we
have
today
smarter
becomes
a
lot
easier
and
yeah.
It's
a
common
request
that
someone
says
well,
hey,
you
know
I've.
A
You
know,
I
really
appreciated
the
ability
to
use
meshri
to.
Let
me
explore
and
go
through
my
adoption
phase
of
figuring
out.
Did
I
want
this
one,
or
did
I
want
that
one?
But
you
know
I've
chosen
that
one
and
and
that's
actually
all
that
we're
running
so
you
know
I
don't
really
need
these
other
adapters.
A
Can
I
just
disable
them
and-
and
the
answer
has
always
been
yes
there,
because
they
are
separate
components,
they
run
in
their
own
docker
containers
and
you
don't
have
to
run
them
if
you
don't
want
to,
but
also
in
the
v05
release
or
that's
coming
up
and
there's
by
the
way
we're
about
to
do
our
first,
probably
beta
beta
release,
release
candidate,
there's
a
new
command
line,
there's
a
new
mastery,
ctl
sub
command
and
and
we've
got
15
minutes
left
and
instead
of
maybe
talking
about
that.
A
Maybe
what
what
we
can
do
is
you
know
is
ask
folks
to
go.
A
So,
if
you're
interested
in
trying
it
out
and
you're
still
fresh
on
measuring
ping
me
or
or
abhishek
or
anirud
or
there's
a
long
list
of
folks
to
help
get
you
get
your
hands
on
context,
but
the
the
the
the
ability
for
measuring
ctl
to
have
context
really
helps
with
saying
that
you've
got
multiple
deployments
of
measuring
or
just
a
single
deployment
of
measuring,
and
you
want
to
configure
it.
You
want
to
run
this
adapter,
not
that
one.
You
want
to
tweak
how
it's
running
you
can
do
so.
A
B
Optimization
code,
optimization.
Yes,
we
have
different
fields
of
parts
of
layer,
five
projects,
so
is
there
a
policy?
I
see
that
there
is
a
machine
learning
part
in
the
presentation.
Is
there
a
policy
to
handle
code,
optimization
reports,
reports
or
the
directive
optimization.
A
Yeah
good,
let
me
clarify
the
question:
there
might
be
two
of
them
in
there.
One
of
them
has
a
better
answer
than
the
other
by
the
way
so
code
is
the
que.
Is
your
question
more
about
code
optimization
across
the
projects?
A
Is
there
practice
and
procedures
around
coding
conventions,
linting,
optimizing
in
terms
of
reducing
number
of
lines
of
code
and
the
the
types
of
constructs
that
you
use
in
your
language
that
are
more
efficient
than
the
next?
Are
you
referring
to
that,
or
are
you
referring
to
such
as.
H
B
A
A
So
there's
and
there's
actually
whoa.
I
hit
the
wrong
hotkey,
there's
I'll
I'll,
actually
I'll
I'll,
see
your
static
analysis
and
I'll
up
you
another
or,
and
that
is
miku-
has
asked
in
the
past
about
a
different
form
of
static
analysis.
A
So
the
there's
an
open
question
about
sort
of
performance
and
then
there's
another
question
about
security
and
there
are
like
security.
I
feel
like
security
is
a
massive
topic,
but
just
like
very
simply
and
sort
of
explicitly
with
respect
to
the
containers
that
are
being
published
by
the
projects
or
those
being
scanned.
You
know
like
hey,
there's,
there's
security
and
I
guess
the
way
of
sort
of
splitting
up
this
set
of
discussions
is
like
performance,
performance,
security,
security
within.
A
Within
whether
or
not
we've
got
a
bunch
of
attack
vectors
or
you
know,
issues
the
way
that
we're
designing
architecting
within
the
code,
that's
being
written
in
the
community
and
then
there's
security
concerns
with
respect
to
all
of
the
dependent
like
transitive
dependencies,
all
the
dependencies
on
other
so
they're.
The
part
of
that
it's
a
big
old,
long
can
of
worms
that
is
within
all
that.
But
part
of
the
answer
is:
there's
there's
some
low-hanging
fruit,
things
like
security
scans
on
docker,
hub
or
security
scans,
using
github
github's
integration.
A
A
B
If
I
talk
about
security
issues
like
information
security,
as
I
learned
from
left
7
and
metasploits
people,
it
is
easy
to
run,
exploits
to
test
or
exploit
directly
a
source
called
a
project,
a
binary,
but
it
is
fine.
It
is
hard
to
find
and
explains
its
place
that
nobody
knows.
So
if
you,
if
you
are
searching
for
a
better
platform
we
we
have
to,
we
need
to
search
like
zero
day
an
active
control
over
the
source
code.
C
E
A
Yeah
we'll
put
a
pin
in
it
yeah.
A
Nice,
beautiful,
okay
last
thing,
and
I
we
we
need
to
get
to
this
because
well
because
pratya
is
here
with
us
because
there's
other
folks,
I
can't
see
the
full
list
of
attendees
at
the
moment,
but
nassar
is
here
with
us.
I
so
I
had
mentioned
otto
van
der
schaff
earlier
and
I
had
said:
hey
it's
great
that
he
joined
today.
We
are
we're.
We've
begun
to
be
earnest
about
the
get
nighthawk
project
and
the
there's
actually
a
few
different
angles
to
this
project.
A
We
we
introduced
this
project
to
on
a
cncf
toc
call
this
week,
letting
people
know
that
that
we're
going
to
be
spending
some
time
inside
of
the
service
mesh
working
group
in
the
cncf
to
well
on
a
few
different
work
streams.
One
of
those
is
is
this
project,
and
I
won't
bore
everyone
by
describing
it
it's
the
the
doc.
Hopefully,
the
doc
does
that
by
itself,
and
it's
not
not
a
very
long
talk
rather
I'll
use.
The
time
to
say
neil.
A
We're
it's
we're
ready.
It's
time.
A
domain
name
was
registered
late
last
night
and
about
five
minutes
after
or
about
ten
minutes
after
it
was
noticed
it
and
and
pointed
out
that,
like
anyway,
the
domain
is
up
and
the
obviously
the
site
is
not
anything
like
it.
It
should
be,
but
protea,
you
know
green
light
like
it's.
It's
go
time.
I
A
No,
no
pressure,
so
there's
a
there's,
a
host
of
individuals
who
are
involved
and
will
be
focused
here
and
there's
we
don't
we
don't
need
yet
another
meeting,
or
none
of
us
really
need
that.
Necessarily
I've
been
desperately
trying
to
well
find
the
right
time
inside
of
the
cncf
sig
network
to
cover
get
nighthawk
and
we
actually
did
rudolf
rodolfo
and
mer
were
both
on
the
call
yesterday
when
we
covered
it
in
depth.
A
A
A
A
A
A
Yeah,
I
might
even
suggest
this
that
that,
as
we
go
to,
if
you
have
another
20
minutes,
as
we
conclude
here,
that
we
would
just
like
walk
through
a
walk
through
what
that
looks
like
to
to
build
the
build
the
docks
update
them.
Yes,.
A
Okay
sounds
good,
who
else
anybody
else
have
items?
That's
good.
D
Okay,
so
far
as
I
browse
the
organization,
the
github
is
the
main
usage
I
see.
Do
you
guys
maintain
any
issues
bored
in
jira
or
something
just
a
clarification?
Yeah,
that's
a
great.
A
I
Me
if
I'm
wrong,
but
if
we
are
not
wrong,
then
like
we
have
started
planning
to
sift.
Our
discussions
on
the
gear
discusses
right.
We
had
that
on
a
fall.
I
Yeah,
like
in
the
last
gate
of
satellite
meeting,
they
introduced
the
github
discussions
until
then
it
was
on
beta.
So
we
had
a
talk
on
that.
If
we
have
to
move
our
discussions
to
jira
or
something
like
that,
then
someone
mentioned
in
the
call
about
that
kira
discussion.
Then
we
just
took
at
that
point.
If
we
have
to
like
continue
to
do
any
sort
of
discussions,
we
can
do
use
that.
A
A
Yeah
so
some
meetings
and
meeting
minutes
so
there's
a
ton
of
if,
if,
if
you
haven't
spent
time,
just
perusing
the
community
drive,
I
hope
that
you're
pleasantly
surprised
by
all
that
you
would
find
in
there
so
yeah.
The
these
things
are.
A
Sources
of
truth,
there's
a
there's
a
lot
in
the
google
docs,
the
google.
I'm
sorry,
the
the
google
drive
covers
mesherie
service
mesh
performance,
get
nighthawk,
there's
another
there's,
there's
like
six
or
so
different
websites
that
that
the
community
works
on
those
are
all
all
that
is
in
the
community,
drive
so
yeah.
So
it's
okay
as
we
go
to
wrap
I'll.
Ask
this
I'll
say
that
so
I
flashed
very
briefly.
A
The
next
generation
version
of
the
layer,
five
io
site,
there's
a
lot
of
you
who've,
been
diligently
working
on
that
doing
designs,
redesigns
implementation,
reimplementation.
We
had
a
goal
to.
We
have
a
goal
to
have
that
site
out
at
the
start
of
the
year,
and
so
the
start
of
the
year
is
here
we're
on
the
precipice
of
that
being
able
to
go,
live
I'm
going
to
make
a
call
out.
A
We
will
like
I'll
likely
look
to
meet
with
a
few
of
you
tomorrow,
if
you're,
willing
and
able
and
available
josh
and
tenu
and
nikhil
and
others
and
we'll
see.
If
we
can't
we'll
see
how
far
off
we
are
from
publishing
that
site.
I
think
it'll
be
something
for
everyone
to
be
really
proud
of
yeah.
I
mean
if
for
all
of
you
that
are
in
here,
if
you
haven't
seen
it
and
you
want
to
take
a
look
and
everybody's
got
an
opinion.
A
This
is
the
link
to
it.
It
is
incomplete
if
you're
seeing
things
gapingly
off.
It's
it's
a
work
in
progress,
but
it's
getting
closer,
so
it's
it's
there
and
actually
to
news
or
josh.
If
you
want
to
toss
in
a
link
to
the
designs
that
that
you
all
work
on
in
figma,
you
know
feel
free
so
that
others
can.
A
Okay!
Well,
we're
a
few
minutes
after
I
think
that's
it
for
today.
Anyone
that
is,
wants
to
hang
out
and
look
at
mystery
docs
and
how
those
work
and
and
get
more
familiar
with
jack
jekyll
and
things
you're
welcome
to
stay.
But
everyone
else,
thanks
for
coming,
have
a
great
week,
see
you
same
time
next
week.
A
Yeah,
so
by
the
way,
no
no
one
feel
guilty
for
taking
off
like
please
take
off,
we've
already
been,
but
yeah
boy
we've
been
really.
You
know
like
there's,
there's
one
thing
that
that's
super
exciting
to
me
and
it's
it's.
I
don't
even
think
it's
listed
in
the
release
notes
just
yet
it's
it's
a
massive
step
forward
on
the
extensibility
of
mashery
there
is.
A
There
are
a
number
of
extension
points
where
people
can
come
in
and
augment
the
behavior
of
of
mesherie
and
it's
a
long
shot.
Maybe,
but
it's
my
hope
that
while
I
was
having
a
conversation
with
hp's,
hpe
coo
just
before
the
break
and
they
look
over
and
see
measuring
they
look
at
the
adapters
and
they
just
start
drooling,
because
they
don't
have
a
service
mesh
and
they,
but
but
they'd
like
to
they'd
like
to
be
very
much
in
the
game,
they're
third
party
to
it
they
look
at
the
adapters
and
think
wow.
I
I
A
Yeah,
okay,
okay,
fair
enough
very
good!
So,
let's,
let's
see
if
we
can't
make
some
some
quick
work
of
ramping,
shawn
and
anyone
else,
who's
who's
interested
in
bachelorette,
docs,
sean,
a
choice
I
can
drive
and
I
can
drive
or-
or
you
can,
depending
upon
whether
you'd
like
to
kind
of
focus
on
getting
your
dev
environment
or
you're
sort
of
getting
you
set
up,
or
I
can
share
here
and
just
kind
of
show
you
my
flow.
E
A
C
A
Yeah
in
principle,
it's
it's
just
a
text
editor
or
like,
which
is
to
say
so,
the
there's
about
six
or
so
different
websites
that
run
on
that
use.
Jekyll
jack,
okay,
as
a
as
a
static
as
a
framework
to
build
a
static
website.
It's
just
to
take
to
basically
templatize
your
web
pages
and
produce
your
site
for
you
just
kind
of
build
it.
A
So
you
modify
the
the
images
in
the
text
and
then
and
then
sure,
and
the
way
that
much
of
the
site
is
written
is,
is
kind
of
between
three
things:
it's
sort
of
it's
a
combo
of
html,
css
and
markdown
or
like
there's
just
a
smidge
of
javascript
in
there,
like
you
know,
not
not
much
what
ends
up
happening.
A
Actually,
if
we,
if
we
sort
of
break
this
down
for
a
moment,
we
say
well
like
actually,
if
we
just
look
at
adapters,
I
think
that's,
maybe
a
good
thing
to
so
we're
over
here
on.
In
this
section
of
the
docks,
we've
got
one
two
you
know
10-ish
or
something
adapters
it
when
you
go
to
any
of
the
pages
they're
pretty
similar
at
the
top.
A
A
And
so
just
randomly
we're
sitting
on
octoring
if
the
code
for
the
google
for
these
docs
is
it's
actually
in
the
main,
meshery
repo.
So
if
we,
if
we
were
to
click
to
edit
this
particular
page,
this
link
will
take
us
to
where
that
page
is
in
github
and
so.
A
And,
but
to
walk
this
backwards,
if
we
just
if
we
just
come
over
to
the
main,
the
main
repo
that
we
already
introduced
is
the
project
docs
and
and
if
we
yeah
right
for
adapters,
it's
they
are.
We
have
a
collection,
a
jekyll
collection
of
adapters
and
they
each
they
they're
each
in
their
own
markdown
file.
Some
of
them
are
put
into
a
folder
just
because
there's
probably
a
couple
of
images
that
are
associated
with
the
just
to
help
organize
the.
A
But
if
we
take
a
look
at
that
that
very
same
one
octarine
and
we
look
at
what's
actually
inside
there,
it's
it's
it's
just
it's
marked
down,
there's
a
little
bit
of.
I
think,
hey,
it's
so
intuitive
that,
like
you'll,
you
know
there's
a
little
bit
of
there's
some.
A
What's
the
right
macros,
if
you
will
like
or
a
little
bit.
D
A
A
Jekyll
uses
ruby,
and
so
you
can
install
this
stuff
on
your
local
machine
or
you
can
use
use.
You
can
build
the
website
in
a
docker
container,
it's
a
little
faster.
If
you
do
it
directory
machine,
but
it
doesn't
either
way
you
arrive
at
the
same
place.
C
A
Yeah
yeah
yeah
you're,
right,
yeah,
you're
right,
and
so
I'm
I'm
posting
a
link
in
the
zoom
chat
to
this
google
doc.
That's
it's.
It
probably
says
about
the
same
thing
this.
This
google
doc
has
written
exactly
for
the
conversation
that
we're
having
oops
right
now,
which
is
good.
A
You
know,
what's
the
documentation,
how
do
I?
What
are
the
steps
to
contribute?
What
what's
the
framework
you
know
like
there'll
be
some
details
in
here
that
are
like
it
doesn't
really
doesn't
really
matter
like
hey.
If
you
go,
the
fact
is:
if
you
go
edit,
the
markdown
and
and
it
gets
merged,
it's
gonna
show
up,
and
I
mean.
A
Is
a
steward
of
the
documentation
so
a
great
individual
to
collaborate
with
bears
as
you
get
in
there.
You
know
please.
Hopefully
you
get
a
sense
that
that
this
it's
a
meritocracy
here
or
or
like
by
that
I
mean
hey
if
you
think
that
there
needs
to
be
an
entire
security
guide
or
or
like
hey
this,
this
area
is
woefully
hey,
where's
the
upgrade
guide.
There's
there's
bring
your
thoughts
and
suggestions
and
do
your
worst.
E
Sure
sounds
good.
Well,
definitely,
you
know
I'm
definitely
looking
forward
to
contributing
on
the
security
side,
one
of
the
things
that
you
know
we're
looking
at
probably
you've
probably
heard
of
him
because
he's
big
into
istio
but
nicholas
shalon,
the
dod
chief
software
officer,
so
that's
kind
of
who
we're
that's
kind
of
who
we're
following
you
know,
that's
how
I
got
into
istio
because
he's
super
excited
about
istio.
E
So
and
that's
what
led
me
to
mesherie,
because
I
think
istio
is
really
powerful.
I
just
you
know
I'm
such
a
tourist
at
it
right
now.
That's
a
conversation
for
another
time,
so
I
have
a
long
way
to
go.
But
that's
why
I'm
interested
in
in
measuring,
because
we
want
to
look
at
you
know
different
service,
mesh
options
and
platforms,
because
I
think
that,
like
I
said
I'm
just
at
the
beginning
of
my
journey.
J
E
I've
I've
heard
of
I
mean
I
know
that
we
have
istio
running
successfully,
but
I've
also
heard
of
some
organizations
where
they
just
have
a
hard
time
running
their
code
on
it,
but
we
also
have
lots
of
different
platforms
in
in
the
organization
that
I
work
for,
and
some
of
them
are,
you
know
they're
just
vastly
different
scales,
so
kind
of
looking
at
running
it
on.
You
know,
from
real
small
systems
to
large.
E
A
It
is
measuring
is
built
under
the
some
of
the
same
premises
that
you
just
said,
which
is
you
were
you
know
the
there's,
the
two
and
a
half
percent
of
the
world
that
or
the
let
me
talk
about,
there's
the
point:
five
zero,
five
percent
of
the
world
that
feels
comfortable
with
a
service
mesh
and
then
yeah
all
the
rest
of
us
and
it's
gonna
be
another
seven
to
ten
years
of
people
like
it's.
A
It
takes
a
long
damn
time
to
get
to
containers,
to
get
to
container
orchestration,
to
get
to
service
meshing,
and
this
networking
stuff
is
confusing.
E
A
E
E
That's
a
serious,
that's
a
problem
for
us.
You
know
just
in
terms
of
visibility
like
the
only
way
to
know
what's
going
on
and
maybe
go
out
and
get
the
code
and
read
it
or
look
at
how
do
we
actually
trace
a
packet's
flow
like?
What's
it
really
doing,
you
know
what's
actually
happening
and
it's
a
for
for
organizations
like
mine,
visibility
is
kind
of
key
and
I
think,
as
I
get
started,
my
future
requests
will
be
around
like
don't
do
things
that
would
make
the
platform
unusable
by
our
type
of
industry.
E
You
know
because
I
think,
there's
there's
ways.
There's
ways
in
the
future
you
know,
or
maybe
even
now,
service
mesh
could
even
protect
critical
infrastructure.
E
E
A
Yeah
totally
yeah
and
you
bring
that
security
right
right
up
to
the
app
you
can.
If
you
can
bring
it
sign
its
own.
I
you
know
zone
id,
you
can
yeah.
If
you
can
is
a
matter
of
fact,
I
would
argue
that
you
could
well
dramatically
yeah.
You
can
do
assuming
that
there
aren't.
You
know,
issues
or
that
is
done
in
the
wrong
way,
but
that
you
could
dramatically
improve
the
the
posture
of
those
apps
today
and
yeah.
E
A
E
E
I
I
A
That
vijay
cherokouri
one
of
the
mesh
mates
he's
he's
probably
a
great
or
not
probably
he's
a
great
one
to
go.
Ask
there
is
a
document
by
the
way
shri.
You
know
what
the
document
is
that
it's
in
the
community
drive
for
when
running
mesry
on
windows.
I
A
Oh
boy,
I
my
brain,
was
doing
you.
You
were
talking
about
measuring
eye
yeah.
It
measures
your
eyes.
A
React
runs
on
next.js
yeah,
yes,
there's
yeah,
just
after
get
nighthawk
is
done,
we'll
we'll
do
that.
Yeah
yeah,
of
course,
no
hurry.
A
So
I'm
putting
in
vijay's
name
whoops
into
the
dock
here
as
a
good
person
to
hit
up
he's,
vj's
the
mesh
mate,
and
so
he
expects
to
be
hit
up
so.
A
Okay,
and
the
reason
that
I
said
centos
for
the
docs
is,
is
mostly
because
jekyll
itself
there's
been
a
number
of
contributors
who've
who
try
to
use
jekyll
on
windows
and
they
they
stumble
shredi
did
we.
We
wrote
up
a
doc
on
that.
I
thought
did
ruth
for
sure
yeah.
If
you
have
that
I'll
spend.
F
K
A
C
I
Well,
lee,
based
on
your
personal
experience,
what's
better
to
use
for
running
mystery,
linux
or
windows,
linux.
A
A
Two
percent
of
the
world
is
running
window.
You
know,
one
percent
of
the
world
is
running
windows
based
container
stuff
like
anywhere
when
you
know
it's
an
awesome,
dev
tool
for
docker
desktop
on
windows.
To
do
various
things.
You
know
the
wsl
on
windows.
What
amazing
thing
that
that
is
anyway,
my
point
is,
is
like
yeah.
We
try
to
make
concessions
as
we
are
considerations
as
we
go
for
being
windows
compatible
and
shoot
is
hard
enough
getting
stuff
done
on
if
you
guys
find
bugs
and
issues
and
challenges
with
windows.
E
Yeah,
I
was
asking
you
about
issue
21-0
I'll
put
it
in
the
chat
just
one
second,
here.
A
Oh
yeah,
oh
yeah!
Well
so
this
is
maybe
this
is
the
I've
done
you
a
disservice.
If
I
pointed
this
one
out,
not
only
because
it's
larger
in
scope
and
not
everything
is
defined
just
yet,
but
when
people
that
doesn't
mean
that
you
wouldn't
have
a
lot
of
success
with
it
and
you
wouldn't
be
able
to,
but
what
it
is
is
when
people
are
running
mesri
as
as
the
contributors
are
writing
code
when
they
catch
when
they
catch
an
error
and
they
they
send
it
to
a
log.
A
We
we're
trying
to
institute
a
practice
of
assigning
assigning
a
specific
error
code
so
that
you,
you
know
so
that
you
say.
Oh
that's,
error
code
in
you
know
2008
what
the
heck
does
that
mean
you
could
you
know
google
search
for
mastery
error
code?
2008
would
take
you
to
the
mastery,
docs
and
you'd
say,
oh,
that
that
he
would
have
what
would
have
this
a
description.
It'd
have
a
probable
cause
and
a
suggested
remediation,
we're
only
so
far
into
this.
A
It
might
be
you
don't
let
me
stop
you
don't
ever.
Let
me
discourage
you
from
working
on
something,
but
it
might.
E
E
A
Yeah
yep
that
that's
exactly
it
that
when
you
go
oops
into
the
measuring
documentation,
on
the
left
hand,
keep
typing
the
wrong
thing
on
the
left
hand
side
that
that
essentially,
there
would
ultimately
be
like
another
reference.
It
would
be
the
troubleshooting
guide
right
and
yeah,
even
if,
for
now
it
didn't
actually
tell
you
how
to
fix
any
errors.
It
just
said
there
is
such
a
thing
as
error
codes.
F
A
Hey!
That's
enough
that
that's
we
can
publish.
E
Okay,
I
think
it
sounds
like
my
first
step
is
to
read
through
some
of
the
docs
that
you
shared
today
get
set
up
on
jekyll,
get
that
working
and
then
probably
take
one
of
the
take
an
example
document.
That's
out
there
and
then
rework
that
just
done
on
my
own
dev
side.
So
I
can
create
something
that
would
be
an
extension
or
would
be
similar.
Does
that
sound
like
good
first
steps.
A
Yeah,
absolutely
totally
okay,
and
this
I
don't
think
it
gets
any
more
welcoming
in
this
community,
which
would
say
like
no.
There
isn't
a
silly
question
like
there's
a
ton
of
people
who
didn't
make
it
as
far
as
you've
just
described.
F
A
Okay,
I
guess
you
know
I'll
begrudgingly
wish
you
enjoy
your
four-day
weekend.