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A
A
All
right
good,
well,
welcome
everyone
hey!
If
you're,
if
you
haven't
been
around,
then
you
may
not
be
aware
that
there's
a
lot
of
sarcasm
that
flows
here
in
the
community
and
so
so,
but
unsarcastically.
If
you
do
talk
to
yourself,
hey
solidarity,
I
am
I
do
too
so.
A
Okay,
good,
that's
about
the
weirdest
opening
to
the
community
meeting
that
we've
had,
I
think,
hey.
My
name
is
lee.
I
usually
don't
introduce
myself,
I'm
hoping
not
to
really
talk
a
bunch
today.
So
this
is
the
the
layer
five
community
meeting.
We
have
it
once
a
week.
We
actually
have
meetings
once
every
day,
sometimes
twice
a
day
actually
on
thursday,
every
second
thursday.
A
I
think
it's
three
meetings,
three
meetings,
not
because
meetings
are
what
all
of
us
enjoy
doing,
but
there's
just
so
much
going
on
and
we
end
up
getting
involved
with
a
few
other
open
source
groups.
One
of
those
groups
is
the
cloud
native
computing
foundation,
so
we
end
up
spending
a
lot
of
time
in
their
meetings
or
hosting
their
meetings.
A
So
if
you're
on
the
call,
please
do
jot
your
name
down
on
the
in
the
meeting
minutes.
If
you
don't
have
access
to
the
meeting
minutes,
please
just
request
it
or
I
think
the
document
is
open.
You
can
make
a
comment.
Make
a
we'll
we'll
get
you
accessed
promptly,
so
the
meeting
minutes,
much
like
everything
that's
done
here
are-
is
done
by
the
community.
A
So
don't
be
shy
as
a
matter
of
fact,
some
of
the
more
tenacious
community
members
they
tend
to
have
the
best
luck,
the
best
luck
in
terms
of
learning
a
bunch
being
impactful
getting
to
know
a
lot
of
people
here
and
building
relationships,
because
they're,
just
I'm
trying
to
think
of
a
different
word
other
than
tenacious
they're
zealous.
A
A
Nice
good
good,
say
cynthia.
I
thought
I
saw
your
name
maybe
on
in
reference
to
chico
africa.
A
Oh
very
good
is:
is
nigeria
your
particular
location
in
africa
or
yes,.
A
Oh
very
nice
and
then
cynthia
since
we're
we're
getting
to
know
you
did,
I
think
so.
Ruth
and
anita
have
been
largely
helping
us
organize
how
we
can
participate
with
chico
africa
and-
and
I
understand
that
we're
looking
at
like
three
different
areas.
Actually,
I'm
not
going
to
steal
ruth's
thunder.
I
don't
want
to
go
through
the
whole
program,
but
I
was
going
to
ask
cynthia.
A
Nice,
oh
very
good,
yeah,
there's!
Well,
there's
a
number
of
people
who
are
on
the
call
who've
contributed
to
that
main
website.
Oh
okay,
yeah
one
of
them
is
josh
pendy
he's
like
he's
the
he's.
The
last
person
on
the
participants
list.
B
A
That
that
is
indicative
of
him
being
last
in
the
community,
but
we'll
let
him
ponder
that
for
the
moment,
so
yeah
actually
like
almost
all
the
names.
Almost
everyone
here
has
contributed
to
the,
but
some
of
them
are
actively
contributing
to
the
main
site.
A
As
a
matter
of
fact,
I
think
josh
so
not
josh,
but
josh
is
if
we
can
get
josh
to
talk
about
well,
maybe
two
of
the
upcoming
initiatives
on
the
site,
they're
actually
sub
sites,
so
this
could
be
a
very
timely
conversation
to
have
so,
no
doubt,
no
doubt
those
guys,
you
know
a
lot
of
the
folks
here
will
be
saying
hi.
So
thanks
for
coming
on
the
call
nice
to
have
you.
Thank
you.
A
Okay,
we
also
had
some
other
community
members
drop
in
this
week.
The
venue
looks
like
this
is.
This
is
our
whole
list,
including
nikhil,
who
was
testing
some
stuff.
I
wouldn't
have
india,
nice,
hey
other
quick
announcements
and
I'm
gonna
try
to
stop
talking
soon,
and
that
is
well
that
you
know
we've,
I'm
not
sure
how
many
projects
we
have
here,
there's
a
few
or
there's
more
than
a
few,
some
of
them
you
all
have
given
more
time
to
than
others.
A
The
one
that
the
one
that's
the
largest
and
that
that
has
the
most
features
and
and
is
is
called
is
measuring
another
one,
that's
well!
That's
really
has
a
niche
focus,
a
very
specific
focus.
It's
a
specification,
it's
quite
important,
not
only
so
many
of
us
have
been
focused
on
it,
but
it's
called
service
mesh
performance.
A
These
two
projects
from
their
genesis.
Our
our
goal
was
to
donate
them
to
the
cloud
native
and
cloud
native
computing
foundation,
and
so
I
wanted
to
give
an
update
on
the
community
call,
because
this
affects
all
of
us.
A
That
those
two
projects
were
put
up
for
consideration
to
for
review,
to
be
accepted
into
the
cncf
and
I'll
be
dumbfounded
if
they
are
like,
like
gobbled
up
like
they're
great
projects,
but
the
this
last
review.
Alas,
a
review
was
held
on
this
last
tuesday.
A
If
memory
serves
and
the
committee
that
reviews
them,
they
only
got
so
far
down
the
list
of
projects
to
review.
They
didn't
yet
make
it
to
measuring
or
surface
mesh
performance,
so
normally
there's
a
review
cadence
of
every
two
months
in
this
excuse
me
in
this
case
there
are
at
least
a
couple
of
members
of
that
committee.
A
It's
the
technical
oversight
committee
for
the
cncf
that
are
new
and
I'm
assuming
it's
because
of
that
reason
that
they're
not
waiting
for
another
two
months
to
to
complete
the
reviews,
but
they're
scheduling
a
second
review
a
month
from
this
last
tuesday
so
like
on
april
22nd,
27th
april
27th,.
A
Speaking
of
like
april
27th,
I
think
just
the
following
week
would
be
kubecon
eu
and
that's
a
conference
there's
a
collection
of
conferences
that
we
generally
try
to
participate
in
and
generally
try
to
part
of
my
goal
for
any
of
you
that
want
to
is
to
have
you
speak
at
one
of
these
conferences,
and
some
of
you
already
have
some
of
you
are
about
to
those
that
already
have
know
just
how
much
work
it
is.
I
wouldn't
sugarcoat.
A
It
is
a
it's
a
it's
a
poop
load
of
work,
so
don't
raise
your
hand
to
do
it
unless
you're
ready
to
give
me
your
left
pinky
anyway.
So
so
we're
going
to
be
talking
at
least
a
couple
of
times
at
kubecon.
I
actually
forgot
to
submit
about,
but
we
always
have
a
few
things
to
talk
about,
because,
because
we're
maintainers
of
a
number
of
the
projects,
which
means
I'm
going
to
select
a
couple
of
you
to
come
on
stage
with
me
most
likely
at
least
one
of
you.
A
There's
kubernetes
community
days,
so
I
don't
know
how
many
of
you
have
seen
this,
but
it's
highly
the
the
first
two
or
there
have
been
kubernetes
community
days,
which
is
just
a
single
day
conference
that
folk
is
like
a
mini
kubecon.
If
you
will
it's
like
a
cloud
native
day,
there's
been
a
lot
of
these
types
of
things
and
there's
a
second
wave
of
them.
That's
starting
there's
one
community
date:
kubernetes
community
days,
africa,
kubernetes
communities,
bengaluru
both
of
these
conferences
still
have
their
call
for
papers
open.
A
A
I
know
some
of
you
are
submitting
so
csi,
oh
and
nevin.
Speaking
of
talking,
so
navindu
is
going
to
give
a
talk
on
meshary
and
on
service
mesh
things
at
this
conference.
So
that's
nice,
we'll
certainly
promote
that.
A
Okay,
I
think
those
are
the
nearest.
I
could
there's
some
other
announcements
in
the
ecosystem
that
are
maybe
interesting
to
folk.
You
all
one
is
that
linker
d
link
is
up
for
graduation
linker
d
is
one
of
the
more
popular
service
meshes,
so
I'm
I'm
writing
up
that
review
now
and
I
hope
to
finish
it
today,
which
would
be
yeah
one
of
the
actually.
It
might
be
a
point
of
interest
to
everyone,
not
necessarily
the
technology
but
linker
d,
the
project,
linker
d,
dot
io.
A
This
is
the
project
page,
you
know
actually
even
cynthia
or
or
others
that
go
to
work
on
the
layer.
Five
io
site,
one
of
the
cool
things
about
the
site
is
this
landscape.
A
That's
going
on
on
this
page
to
make
it
even
more
interactive
and
some
good
things,
but
linker
d
is
one
of
those
service
meshes
and
linker
d
is
ready
to
graduate
like
a
graduate
to
a
new
level
in
the
cncf
and
one
of
the
criteria
for
an
open
source
project
to
achieve
that
level,
the
level
of
their
level
of
graduation
actually
jubril
who's,
not
on
the
call
he
had
asked
this
question
on
yesterday's
newcomers
call
I'll
recap
this
briefly.
A
He
had
asked:
what's
the
difference
between
these
different
project
levels
in
the
cncf
like
there
are
three
of
them.
There's
this
level
called
graduated.
This
level
called
incubating
this
other
level
called
sandbox.
They're
kind
of
right
here,
like
these,
are
very
early
early
projects
only
so
well
supported.
A
Larger
projects
have
been
more
broadly
adopted,
graduated
and
not
boring
projects,
but
you
know
stable
and
anyway,
part
of
the
criteria
to
make
it
to
this
level
is
literally
the
way
the
criteria
reads.
Is
one
of
the
one
of
the
items
says
that
the
project
should
have
two
contributors
from
different
organizations,
meaning
that
the
intention
is
to
promote
diversity
amongst
those
who
are
governing
the
projects
so
that
it
isn't?
You
know
a
single
entity
that
controls
a
project
and
uses
a
project
for
their
own
evil
deeds.
A
You
know
so
that
it's
a
healthy
project
right
so
that
it's
the
interesting
thing
is
that
the
way
that
that
that
wording
literally
reads
is
it
literally
reads:
contributor
two
contributors
or
contributors
from
two
different
organizations.
A
I
think
the
spirit
of
what
was
what
was
written
is
intended
to
say
two
different
maintainer
or
maintainers
of
from
two
different
group
organizations,
but
even
at
that
or
I'll
say
this,
you
know
publicly
on
the
cncf
calls
as
well.
It's
a
it's
a
really
low
bar
and
it's
pretty
stupid.
I
mean
it
needs
to
be
changed.
A
It
needs
to
be
changed
such
that
it's
a
higher
number
from
different
organizations
and
that
it
becomes
really
clear
what
a
maintainer
is
and
what
those
responsibilities
are
and
because
the
when
you
look
at
the
criteria
on
paper
for
a
graduated
project,
mesherie
clearly
hits
those
for
incubating,
and
I
have
to
go
look
again.
I
just
measure
most
likely
hits
them
for
graduated
as
well.
A
A
I
think,
to
for
the
project
to
go
in
start
there
less
there's
a
lot
of
diligence
due
diligence
that
happens
to
arrive
at
this
level
now,
based
on
a
number
of
things
that
I
won't
go
into,
but
but
anyway,
to
the
extent
that
any
of
that
was
interesting
to
you
all,
based
on
how
you
measure
the
health
of
an
open
source
project,
part
of
how
the
cncf
works,
part
of
what
will
affect
you
know
these
these
two
projects,
so
just
in
case
it's
a
question
for
any
of
you.
A
Should
these
two
projects
go
into
the
cncf?
It
will
hardly
change
what
we
do
here,
or
rather
you
we
wouldn't
really
skip
a
heartbeat.
It
will
be.
A
You
know
the
road
map,
the
maintainers,
the
contributors,
the
flow,
the
like
that'll,
all
stay,
the
same,
so
okay
is
ruth,
isn't
on.
Is
she
can
someone
ping
ruth
for
me,
anita
or
anita?
Maybe
do
you
want
to
speak
to
part
of
this.
C
Not
exactly,
I
think,
roots
have
something
she
prepared.
Let
I'm
try
contacting
okay.
D
D
A
E
Yes,
okay,
so
this
is
one
of
the
sub
site
that
lee
was
talking
about
for
layer,
five.
F
E
Discus.Layer5.,
which
will
be
a
discussion
forum
and
is
made
up
from
discourse.
So
basically
we
are
going
to
talk
about
three
things.
First,
one
is
the
design
overview,
so
there
are
three
decision
elements
that
were
planned
to
add.
First,
one
is
the
nav
bar.
Second,
one
is
the
hero
and
the
third
one
is
the
footer.
E
So
for
navbar
I
added
the
menu
the
links
and
also
the
shadow
which
appears
when
we
scroll
and
which
disappears.
When
we
go
back
up.
I
also
tried
having
the
white
color
when
we
scroll
down
and
having
the
original
color,
but
didn't
get
it
right,
so
that
item
is
pending
I'll
have
to
look
into.
If
I
can
find
some
solution
to
that,
and
the
second
thing
is
the
hero.
E
So
we
are
using
a
component
here
as
well,
and
it
is
pretty
much
similar
to
what
we
need
for
what
the
figma
design
was
and
what
we
aspire
to
have
it.
So
I
think
there
is
only
a
button
missing,
which
is
ask
a
question,
and
just
pandey
is
so
he
has
already
fork
and
he
he
is
looking
to
work
upon.
If
we
can
add
up
a
button
below
ask
a
question,
so
it
will
be
exactly
similar
to
the
sigma
design
that
we
have
and
the
third
one
is
the
footer.
E
So
I
yeshwardhan
was
unable
to
add
the
social
icons,
and
I
will
talk
to
him,
so
I
think
he
will
also
be
able
to
add
those
social
icons.
Apart
from
that
and
the
links
are
yeah
links
are
yet
to
be
added.
So
these
are
the
three
items
that
we've
added
up
and.
E
F
C
Button
yeah.
E
And
also
as
you
as
we
talked
in
the
last
meeting,
so
the
hero
will
be
only
present
for
the
home
page
and
not
for
any
other
page
till
we
have
another
hero,
design
or
something.
A
D
E
D
A
A
But
this
is
so.
This
is
great,
so
part
of
the
reason
that
we're
going
through
over
the
discuss,
dot
layer,
five
that
I
owed
today
is
because
won't
it.
Hopefully
it
affects
everyone
here
in
a
good
way
and
that
everyone
well
much
like
a
lot
of
the
things
that
we
do
here,
one
if
you're
not
familiar
with
discourse
on
this
subsite
discuss.layer5.io
is
a
discourse
server,
that's
running
and
you
all
are
re-skinning
it.
You
know
making
it
look
like
an
extension
of
the
main
site,
which
is
it's
looking
good.
A
It's
an
opportunity
to
impact
the
community
as
well
by
answering
any
number
of,
not
necessarily
answering
questions
in
the
forum
like
you
know,
please
go
ahead
and
do
that
as
and
when
it
goes
live
and
all
that
you
know
please
participate,
but,
but
I
meant
answering
questions
about
like
some
of
these
settings.
Like
sure
adam,
just
randomly
suggest
saying
one
like,
I
think,
a
number
of
the
other
discourse
forums
that
I'm
particip
that
I'm
a
member
of,
I
think
they'll
send
me
a
weekly
digest,
maybe
a
monthly.
A
I
wanted
to
say
it's
weekly,
I'm
pretty
sure
it's
not
daily,
because
I
think,
if
it
were,
I
would
have
like
unsubscribed
or
like
I'm,
not
I'm
not
that
active
in
them
so
like
just
that
is
a
is
a
decision
to
be
made
right
and
there's
like
I'm,
not
sure,
a
few
hundred
settings
you
know
to
how
the
forum
works
so
so
part
of
the
reason
that
josh
is
presenting
is
to
include
you
all
in
that
decision-making
process.
A
Josh.
Maybe
one
of
the
things
as
you
go
to
no
doubt
discuss
or
have
this
discuss
site
as
part
of
monday's
websites.
Conversation
that
you
might
you
know
wonder
if
we
shouldn't
try
to
walk
through
some
of
the
decisions
that
have
been
made
already.
You
know
some
of
the
settings
that
are
there
already,
maybe
not
to
walk
through
all
200
of
them
or
what
have
you,
but
just
maybe,
if
there's
a
couple
where
you're
not
you're,
not
quite
sure.
If
that
setting
should
be
changed
or
not,
maybe
we
could
bubble
those
up
for
discussion.
E
I
was
going
to
move
on
to
that
part,
but
if
you
do
have
other
topic,
then
yeah
we
can
go
into
websites.
E
Okay,
so
the
first
one
is
for
the
anti-spam,
so
for
accessmed
we'll
have
to
purchase
a
plan
if
we
wish
to
have
it,
so
we
are
having
three
options.
E
Currently,
the
second
one
is
to
have
a
captcha,
while
a
new
user
logs
in
so
logs
in
order
creates
an
account
and
the
third
one
is
to
allow
only
social
logins
and
what
I've
seen
on
most
of
the
like
most
of
the,
because
the
captcha
is
not
preferred
or
they
are
not
much
supporting
on
discourse,
so
they
generally
use
the
third
option
for
staying
away
from
spam.
That
is
only
social
logins
and
we
have
this
file.
A
That's
that's
a
curious
point.
Yeah
I
hadn't.
It
is
one
of
the
options
to
allow
people
to
use
just
their
email
address.
You
know
like
not
social
auth,
but
email.
E
Yeah,
like
so,
do
you
mean
only
using
so
giving
them
no
option
for
any
social
login.
A
Rather,
what
I
meant
to
ask
is:
is
there
a
sixth
option,
or
you
know
what
josh
you
probably
said
this
and
I'm
probably,
I
probably
missed
part
of
what
you
said,
but
I
guess
my
question
is
outside
of
the
five
social
auth
options
for
logging
in
is
one
of
those
available
options,
simply
letting
peop
someone
sign
up
using
an
email
address,
as
opposed
to.
E
Yeah,
that's
that's
already
there
and
we
can.
We
can
remove
this
file,
so
we
can
have
only
that
option
available,
but
the
problem
is
that
it
is
the
main
origin
of
spam
so
like
for
email
addresses
like
I
have
looked
upon
like
I
have
had
a
research
of
a
bit.
So
many
discourse
forums
have
this
issue
where
there
are
fake
email,
addresses
and
fake
accounts
and
like
you'll,
get
thousands
of
users
in
just
a
second
and
the
bots
would
just
go
into
your
discourse
and
spam.
It
all
so.
E
E
Show
it
once
yeah
so
currently
we
do
have
this
one
for
email
and
we'll
have
the
other
options.
Once
you
have
the
tokens
for
the
other
social
logins.
Even,
but
if
we
wish
to
do
not
have
this
one,
then
we
can
remove
all
of
these
social,
and
we
can
also
remove
this
entirely
or
we
can
also
remove
this
entirely.
You
can
have
either
of
the
two
or
both.
G
Let
me
ask
you
a
question:
no
yeah
lee
fish.
What
are
you
saying?
No,
no,
I
know
so
my
my
question
is
actually
it's
a
little
naive
see.
First,
there
are
two
things
you
know.
First
of
all,
you
have
the
email
and
then
the
social,
social
login
right,
I'm
just
calling
it
that
to
make
it
simple.
G
So
the
reason
that
you're
having
the
social
login,
not
the
email,
is
because
you're
worried
about
spam,
but
if
you
have
this
email
and
the
social
log
and
you're
you're
not
getting
rid
of
the
problem
right,
the
other.
The
the
other
question
is.
G
How
how
are
we
and
how
are
we
insured?
I
mean
how
do
we
know
that
by
using
this
social
login
and
this
the
social
lockers,
they
have
all
these
problems
right?
If
you
go
and
look
at
the
elections-
and
you
know
the
russians
manipulating
the
election
with
the
twitter
and
facebook
and
all
that
stuff
does
does
facebook
github
and
linkedin?
Do
they
all
provide
some
kind
of
a
guarantee
that
you
know
that
the
email
logins
that
they
have
are
genuine?
And
how
do
you
determine
that?
How
do
you
determine?
G
E
G
A
It's
he
probably
had
to
mute
for
a
second
just
to
swear
and
curse
and
then
just
just
kidding
so
no
john
looks
like
we
lost
josh
all
together
that
that's
unfortunate,
so
vijay
some
great
great
questions.
Actually
it
was
in
part,
I
think,
in
part
about
where
what
I
was
gonna
ask
to
kind
of
take
a
poll
of
everyone,
and
that
is
like
to
your
first
point.
It's
actually.
I
think
the
reason
why
josh
was
bringing
up
this
topic
was
to
say:
hey
here's
a
decision
point.
A
Should
we
should
this
site
only
allow
people
to
auth
with
their
social
login
and
not
their
email
kind
of
to
to
your
first
point
about
trying
to
avoid
spam
altogether.
I
think
part
of
I
think
part
of
the
data
points
he
was
raising
up
was
one
of
the
plug-ins,
the
akismet
plug-in
it's
an
anti-spam
anti
it.
H
So
so
one
of
the
problems
by
using
emails
for
login
is
that
anyone
can
generate
emails
on
their
linux
machine
and
they
can
just
bomb
the
site.
So
basically
I
imagine
the
idt
is
difficult
and
we
can
just
upload
it
to
social
logins,
assuming
that
github
and
those
kind
of
things
are
making
sure
that
they
are
doing
ip.
Checking
that
are
not
a
lot
of
accounts
are
being
created
might
be
obviously,
sometimes
some
people
can
also
bypass
this
bypass
that
security,
but
so
this
identity
management
won't
be
operated
to
us.
H
So
so,
basically
it
won't
be
that
easy
to
spam,
the
site,
just
by
creating
tons
of
fake
email
ids
on
your
system
to
log
in
to
basically
create
the
account.
That's
an
issue
using
email
guidance.
E
E
Yeah,
thank
you,
of
course,
because
these
so
the
most
the
the
main
problem
is
not
like
people
creating
those
fake
email
ids,
but
the
problem
is
with
bots
so
like.
If
we,
the
boards
are
more
easy
like
they
generally,
the
boats
are
more
specified
to
use
the
fake
email
addresses
over
compared
to
fake
social
media
addresses.
So
I
I
I
do
not
assure
that
we
won't
have
a
spam
problem
if
we
use
social
media
icons.
E
G
G
G
Okay
suppose
I
log
in
as
as
you
know,
as
facebook
right,
so
so
facebook
just
authenticated
me
just
if
facebook
knows
who
I
am
because
I'm
a
member
there
right
yeah.
But
you
don't
know
all
that.
You
don't
know
my
user
id
or
anything
like
that.
You
you
just
know
that
I'm
an
authenticated
person.
G
So
the
the
question
question
now
is:
when
I
communicate,
are
you
guaranteed
that
that
information
is
coming
from
one
particular
source?
You
mean
one
from
one
ip
yeah
or
it
doesn't
come
from
one
particular
email.
So
if
I
send
an
email
after
I
logged
in,
would
that
email?
G
G
Okay,
so
the
so,
if
I'm
logged
in
as
facebook
and
if
I
communicate
say
by
email,
how
would
that
email
come
to
you.
G
Is
that
what
you
asked?
Okay,
maybe
I
I
misunderstood
something
so
so
when
you
talk
about
a
lot
of
emails
coming,
so
are
you
talking
about
incoming
emails
or.
E
Outgoing
emails,
no,
no
we're
not
talking
about
emails,
we're
talking
about
users
so
like
there
would
be
spam
users
and
then
they
would
be
spamming,
the
posts
and
topics
and
categories.
So
we
are
not
talking
about
messages.
We
are
talking
about
the
users
that
get
signed
up
so
like
we.
F
E
A
Good
yeah
josh
do
we,
you
know
actually,
maybe
maybe
given
the
time
we
should
move
on
josh
other.
Did
you
were
you
just
sharing
kind
of
a
written
set
of
considerations.
E
E
No,
so
I've
made
an
another
doc.
I
can
share
it.
E
So,
like
I'll
just
wrote
the
blood
points
that
I
was
going
to
talk
about,
so
I
do
I
I
will
just
edit
it
and
share
it,
because
this
won't
make
any
sense
without
me
explaining
it.
So
we
can
yeah.
E
The
under
discussion
discuss
design,
spec
yeah
exactly.
A
Nice,
so
very
good
josh,
thank
you
for
taking
us
through
this
for
everyone,
as
we
go
to
wrap
that
topic.
If
these
set
of
topics
or
the
discuss
that
the
discourse
forum
is
interesting,
there's
a
number
of
people
who
are
working
on
the
project.
A
Josh
patel
is
like
the
right
individual
to
go
see,
and
this
document,
that's
inside
of
the
shared
community
drive,
is
probably
the
right
place
to
just
sort
of
sift
through
what
the
project
is
and
why
we're
doing
it
and
different
considerations
and
and
josh
will
put
in
some
of
those
or
update
some
of
this
as
well.
So.
A
Nice
I,
by
the
way,
just
by
if
any
someone
could
help
me
out,
I
didn't
catch
all
the.
A
What
was
our
consensus
like
what
was
the
sense
of
were
most
people,
preferring
social
auth,
like
is
kind
of
what
it
looks
like
not
not
to
filter
out
not
from
a
security
perspective.
I
just
mean
like
personal
preference,
as
you
go
around
the
internet
in
general,
do
most
of
you
lean
into
using
social
auth.
A
G
A
Yeah,
I
do
the
same
thing:
vijay
yep
and
it's
mostly
a
privacy
thing.
It's
two
things
for
me:
it's
a
privacy
thing
and
it's
it's
funny,
because
what
blossom
was
saying
well,
that
makes
you
know
total
sense.
It's
like
oh
geez,
they're
gonna.
If
I'm
gonna
sign
up
for
the
email,
then
like
one,
it's
just
a
reminder,
a
mental
reminder
to
me
that
I'm
probably
gonna
start
to
get
some
emails
to.
I
probably
have
to
go.
A
Do
this
verification
thing
in
my
email
and
that
could
be
a
pain
in
the
rump
depending
upon
what
device
I'm
using
at
what
time
and
the
it's
funny,
because
I
think
of
it
in
the
other
way
that
for
me
like
trying
to
remember
which
social
auth
I
used
on
what
sites
and
like
for
many
of
the
sites
that
I
frequently
visit
or
yeah
that
I
visit
frequently,
this
is
just
my
own.
F
A
My
head,
this
is
how
the
world
works
or
like
that,
it's
more
of
a
pain
in
the
butt
to
click
on
the
social
auth
login.
It
redirect
me
to
a
different
page
did
then
sign
in
to
that
provider.
If
I
wasn't
already,
if
I
didn't
already
have
an
active
session,
confirm
that
come
back
accept
their
terms
and
then
but
yeah
anyway
does
anyone
else
want
to
share
so
vijay
email,
the
email,
the
venue,
social
husseina,
social
blossom,
social?
I
think
cynthia
did
you
say
social.
A
Dhruv
pierce
social
because
they're
all
these
are
all
like
social.
What's
what's
what's
going
on,
okay,
I
suspect
it's
social,
that's
going
to
win
out
because
which,
by
the
way
for
those
that
manage
a
website,
social
login
is
a
bit
easy.
Well,
I
don't
know,
I
would
say
a
little
bit
easier,
a
little
more
convenient
and
it
does
come
with
the
added
benefits
of
letting
some
other
global
identity
provider
like
a
facebook
or
google.
A
Or
what
have
you
bear
the
brunt
of
fake
accounts,
so,
okay,
so
great
now
that
we've
got
14
minutes
left
next
topic
is
just
you
know
briefly,
there's
this
there's
this
thing
in
my
background
on
over
whatever
shoulder
it's
over
is
there's
the
one
of
the
projects
that
we
have
here
is
called
get
nighthawk.
A
We
were
just
nominating
at
least
one
maintainer
for
the
project,
vinayak
sharma
who's,
not
on
the
call
right
now,
but
the
project
we
need
to
pick
its
logo
and
there's
been
a
few
logos
designed
and
they're
linked
inside
of
the
docs.
So
everyone
here
is
welcome
to
have
an
opinion
and
vote
on
what
you
know
drop
it
in
slack
or
drop
it
in
a
comment
here.
But
it's
been
a
decision.
That's
been
hanging
out
there
for
a
while.
So.
A
Sorry,
I
should
have
explain
this
a
little
bit
better
that
the
oh,
you
know
what
I
did
explain
it
in
comments.
Sorry
go
go
ahead.
H
Yeah,
so
basically
it's
about.
I
mean
it's
about
partnering
with
open
application
project,
if
no
one
like,
if
someone
here
is
not
familiar
with
what
exactly
open
application
model
is
and
why
we
are
exactly
doing
that.
So
basically
they
have
a
new
feature
upcoming
feature
called
parents,
current
files,
and
that
actually
builds
upon
this
particular
aspect
that
is
homespeak.
If
anyone
wants
to
go
and
look
at
this
thing,
they
can
definitely
do
that.
He
has
mentioned
this
link
in
the
in
the
document.
H
So
right
now,
I
think
we
are
looking
at
adding
a
feature
section
mystery.io,
which
talks
about
how
how
messy
is
leveraging
open
application
model
specification
to
build
its
patterns.
Basically,
what
we
have
done
is
takes
extended
mystery
to
be
a
compliant
runtime,
so
it
can
share
all
of
the
traits
and
scopes
and
components
and
those
kind
of
things
with
other
home
runtimes
like
cubevilla
so
right
now.
I
think
I
mean
I
think
I
know
yeah
there's
something
that
you
can
add.
H
That
thing
to
I
mean
at
this
particular
upcoming
feature,
along
with
highlighting
how
application
open
application
model
onto
the
mystery.io
website.
Just
like
we
highlight
other
things
like
services,
performance
and
stuff,
like
that,
so.
H
I'm
not
sure,
if
did
I
explain
that
properly,
I
mean
I'm
not
sure
if
everyone
has
seen
here
what
parents
are.
I
mean,
I
hope
it's
not
like
what
what
what
is
home
and
what
parents.
A
Well,
there
you
go.
I
was
talking
to
myself
again,
I
guess
yeah,
sorry,
so
yep.
Thank
you
for
that
utkarsh.
I
I
do
anticipate
that
most,
the
majority
of
us
don't
really
know
what
you're
talking
about,
and
that's,
okay,
we'll
we'll
get
it
over
time.
That
jubril
is
someone
who
nevendoo
is
working
with
to
try
to
bring
forth
some
additional.
A
You
know
sub
commands
for
patterns
for
measuring
ctl
patterns,
but
other
than
that,
the
the
yeah.
This,
I
think
it's,
I
think,
there's
clarity
on
what
you
had
first
said,
which
is
that
there's
a
new
feature
coming
in
this
next
release,
so
we
just
released
v050
everyone's
starting
on
this
next
release.
A
This
integration
will
be
a
feature
and
I
think,
for
the
most
part,
we
know
how
that
feature
is
going
to
work
now
and
so
there's
to
your
point
and
to
what
you
had
said:
oh
hey,
that's
a
familiar
that
looks
like
utkarsh's,
animated,
gif,
okay,
now
ukarsh,
we
need
another
one
of
your
animated
gifs
out
here,
discussing
service
mesh
patterns
and
measuring
as
an
ohm
runtime.
A
A
I'm
putting
a
link
here
to
describe
the
fact
that,
like
what
surface
mesh
patterns
are
but
but
crush,
that
was
thank
you
for
that.
That
was
really
what
I
was
hoping
for
is.
That
is
that
I
think
that
you
know
there's
that
there's
clarity,
that
we
should
go
put
a
small
features
section
and
then,
subsequent
to
that,
we
still
have
that
open-ended
conversation
with
ryan
zhang
and
and
lee
zhang
about.
A
H
H
A
Okay,
all
right
good
we're
is
there
any.
I
assume,
there's
no
questions
on
the
patterns,
but
if
there
are
please
see,
you'd
carve
is
alonso
with
us
today.
A
Oh
jubril,
you
joined
just
in
time
for
some
patterns.
Good
alonso
is
not
here,
but
one
of
the
things
that
there
are
like
two
things
that
are
a
pain
for
our
doc
site
or
at
least
for
the
measuring
doc
site.
A
So
one
of
those
pains
in
the
butt
is
that
the
site
itself
is
only
in
english
at
the
moment
alonso
and
a
collection
of
about
eight
or
so
others
from
various
locations
and
mostly
in
mexico.
Reuben
from
spain
was
helping
translate
the
site
and
they
they
made
it
so
far
or
only
so
far,
but
part
of
that
translation
is
yeah.
There's
the
work
of
literally
translating
english
to
well-written
espanol,
but
then
there's
site
structure
itself.
So
when
I'm
looking
at
a
page
in
spanish
good
this
content
here
in
spanish.
A
Well
that
looks
like
english
to
me.
Granted
these
two
are
pronouns,
so
they
probably
won't
you
know,
be
translated,
but
project.
That's
a
different
word
in
spanish.
Same
thing.
You
know
like
these
should
be
mostly
so
like
the
whole
site
itself
like
how
do
you?
How
do
you
have
a
system,
a
framework
for
multiple
language?
It's
a
challenge,
there's
another
ch
and
so
alonso
has
been
with
some
others
have
been
chasing
that
down.
The
second
challenge
here
is
versioning,
so
we
were
just
talking
about
mesherie's
versions.
A
What
what
software
release
version
it's
on
when
you
go
to
the
docs
site?
Oh,
you
can
come
to
understand
that
you
can
look
at
the
releases,
but
if
you
want
to
look
at
documentation
specific
to
like
the
visa,
you
know
like
to
a
specific
release.
A
A
That's
what
alonzo
was
going
to
talk
about.
There's
an
outstanding
pull
request
that
if,
if
that
those
type
those
two
challenges
kind
of
are
interesting
to
any
of
you,
there's
an
outstanding
pull
request
in
the
message.
Repo
that
you
could
familiarize
with
the
one
that's
outstanding
is
about
multi-language
support.
A
And
it's
you
know
it's
a
big,
it's
a
big
change
because
it
affects
you
know
the
whole
doc
site,
but
it's
an
intriguing
challenge
and
I
think
we're
at
the
tail
end
of
it.
So,
okay,
that
was
anybody
else,
have
topics
for
today.
Questions
anybody
else
want
to.
You
know
talk
to
themselves
for
a
little
while.
G
If
you
don't
mind,
I
have
another
question
so
in
this
translation
you,
what
is
the
goal
there
is?
It
is
the
goal
to
have
all
this
documentation
is
in
different
languages,
or
is
it
to
be
able
to
translate
the
documentation
into
different
languages
on
the
fly
as
as
as
we
see,
because
there
is
a
limit
to
how
many
languages
you
you
can
possibly
translate
right,
you
have
to
have
so
many
yeah
resources
and
so
many
versions.
G
G
No,
I
agree
I
was,
I
was
wondering
see,
for
instance,
just
maybe
this
is
just
I
will
talk,
but
you
know
in
that
google
you
know
like
like
or
in
facebook,
when
you
when
somebody
types
in
different
language
language.
You
know
you
can
click
on
translate
this
for
me
right.
G
Maybe
this
is
just
wild
talk,
maybe
I
I
should
carry
out,
but
so
the
thing
is:
are
we
trying
to
translate
literally
translate
everything,
or
are
we
trying
to
pursue
a
means
of
of
translating
for
people
who
are
because
it's
so
many
languages?
They
they're
writing
this
group
that
people
there's
so
many
indian
languages?
I
don't
speak,
you
know
and
other
people
speak
they
the
people
from
africa
and
I'm
sure
they.
I
don't
even
know
how
many
languages
they
are
in
africa,
how
many
languages?
Yes,
we
can.
We
can
take
a
small
step.
G
A
Yeah
vijay
we're.
Actually,
we
were
using
google
translate
on
the
actually
on
the
the
layer,
five
io
site
and
what
we
had
at
the
bottom
of
that
site
was
just
a
set
of
flags
that
people
could
click
on
to
switch
to
invoke
google
translate
for
the
site,
so
they
would
kind
of
switch
into
a
mode
like
this
and
yeah.
That
was
certainly
the
while
the
translation
isn't
maybe
always
in
the
right
context
exactly.
It
was
certainly
close
enough
for
the
very
low
number
of
visitors
that
actually
would
use
the
feature
over
here.
A
You're
right,
there's
two
aspects
to
the
effort:
one
is
a
language
plug-in
a
language
framework,
a
framework
in
the
docs
to
be
able
to
plug
in
and
switch
between
different
languages
and
then
there's
a
second
effort
about
actual
transcription
into
whatever
languages.
That
people
who
come
here
can
can
do
I'll
I'll,
be
forthright
and
say
when
it
was
originally
originally
suggested
like.
A
I
try
to
really
be
encouraging
of
any
suggestions
that
people
have
to
get
them
to
help
them
learn,
give
them
an
excuse
and
a
place
to
do
stuff,
and
I
wish
alonso
was
here
so
I
could
say
that,
while
he's
sitting
here
but
like
that's
mostly
what
this
is
like,
are
they
gonna
keep
the
docs
trans
freshly
translated
into
spanish,
maybe
maybe
we'll
see.
I
hope
that
the
community
gets
that
big,
but
right
now,
no
there's
no
way
in
hell.
A
Also,
most
of
his
almost
all
of
his,
I
mean
like
even
for
super
popular
projects
like
kubernetes
like
ultimately,
and
eventually
they
get
like
a
chinese
translation
and
that's
about
like
most
of
the
right,
I'm
not
hopefully
I'm
not
speaking
out
of
my
arse
right
now,
but
like
most
of
the
rest
like
most,
the
rest
of
visitors
generally
can
make
their
way
through
english
or
like-
and
I
guess
don't
take
my
word
for
it,
but
like
go,
look
and
see
for
some
of
these
other
sites
that
are
significantly
supported,
like
kubernetes
they've
got
english,
so
there's
other
they
do
have
more
than
more
than
I
had
said
now,
and
I
don't
know
what
way
they're
doing
this.
A
It's
funny
actually
they're
using
the
same
theme
as
we
are,
except
I'm
sure,
they're
using
hugo,
not
jekyll,.
A
Which
is
also
interesting
because
they
don't
have
a
version
number,
do
they
docs
translation
yeah,
so
these
are
these
are
being
done
by
humans.
I
think
yep
anyway
vj.
I
don't
know
if
that
helps
answer
some
of
your
questions
like
it's
a
it's
a
difficult
effort,
it's
a
big
undertaking
and
yeah.
It
starts
with
the
theme
that
you're
using
or
the
framework
that
you're
using
for
your
docs
to
be
able
to
support
internationalization
and
have
a
you
know,
a
system
by
which
that's
done
and
that's
in
part.
What
this
brings
forth
is
a
system.
A
A
A
I'm
just
trying
to
get
over
this.
I
I
was
called
out
for
talking
to
myself
today
and
I
don't
know
I'll.
Let
you
all
silently
judge
me,
I
think,
is
the
thing.