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From YouTube: Layer5 Community Meeting (Nov 27th, 2020)
Description
Welcome @TinaManghnani! @ShritiChandra demos new lab scenarios for learning how to service mesh.
A
A
A
Oh
hello,
welcome
everybody
november
27th
2020
good
deal
good
deal
well.
A
Looking
over
the
attendees
tina,
you
might
be
the
only
other
one
who's
a
little
bit
fatter
today,
like
me
than
we
you
were
yesterday,
I'm
trying
to
remember
tina.
Are
you
based
in
florida?
Did
you
do
any
turkey
yesterday.
B
No,
no,
no.
I
actually
don't
reach
out
to
you
on
linkedin
regarding
this
project,
and
I
just
joined
the
newcomers
meeting
this
week
and
yeah.
This
is,
I
might
be
the
odd
one
out.
I
think
all
the
other
people
here
in
this
meeting
are
quite
seasoned.
Yeah.
A
Oh
no!
No!
Actually,
I
don't.
Actually,
I
think
you'll
find
that
you're,
not
that
that
you
there's
quite
the
blend
so
anyway,
tina
very
nice
to
have
you.
I
didn't
mean
to
try
to
make
a
joke
with
you
before
we
even
got
to.
A
Oh
good,
well
very
nice
to
have
you
actually
so
continue
with
that
introduction?
If
you
would,
you
said
you
got
to
catch
the
newcomers
call
yesterday
and
and
then
remind
everybody
where
you're
currently
based
or
where
are
you
calling
in
from.
B
Yeah,
I'm
actually
based
in
india
and
to
brief
a
little
bit
about
myself.
I
currently
work
at
microsoft
as
a
support
engineer,
so
we
majorly
deal
with
the
azure
services
and
the
various
enterprises
that
use
microsoft
services.
I
am
transitioning
into
a
different
role,
which
is
the
product
management
role,
but
open
source
is
something
I
always
wanted
to
do,
and
containers
is
something
that
recently
has
interested
me.
So
I
wanted
to
get
my
hands
dirty
on
it.
Using
this
project.
A
A
B
Yeah,
so
so
I
am
actually
an
intern
for
the
azure
integration
platform,
so
that
basically
serves
as
a
platform
for
various
various
azure
resources,
as
well
as
any
on-prem
services
that
the
user
might
want
to
integrate
to
on
the
cloud.
A
few
of
examples
would
be
maybe
an
azure
sequel
server
and
maybe
a
service
bus,
a
short
event
grade
event
hub
as
well
container
instances.
Things
like
that
and
the
new
team
that
I'm
transitioning
into
is
actually
of
the
ai
products
team.
B
So
I'm
going
to
be
dealing
with
the
range
of
products
like
the
cortana,
the
bing
search,
relevance
and
all
the
products
that
come
under
the
search
in
ai
space
and
that
again
comes
from
my
interest
in
the
mlnei
space,
which
is
something
that
I
was
again
doing
apart
from
my
job
and
yeah.
So
you
know
this
is
something
that
this
area
of
containers
talking
about
is
relatively
new
to
me
and
I
thought
the
best
way
to
learn.
B
A
Great,
I
guess
that
that
makes
me
so
happy
or
yeah.
It
makes
it
makes
me
yeah
you're.
I
totally
agree
like
no
better
way
to
just
put
your
hands
on
something
or
and
there's
there's
a
lot
of
projects
and
technologies
floating
around
here.
Some
very
warm
friendly
folks
that
are
on
the
call
now
and
some
that
aren't
as
well
and
yeah.
B
Yeah,
I
think
I
think
that
that's
something
I
would
like
to
thank
you
for
for
being
really
open
to.
You
know
for
anybody
to
come
and
contribute
to
this
project,
and
also,
I
also
learned
from
the
newcomers
meeting
that
there
are
resources
that
we
can
look
into
and
try
to
understand
what
this
project
is
about.
I
think
yeah
I
mean
yeah.
Thank
you
so
much
for
you
know
actually
making
this.
B
A
Yeah
yeah
yeah,
you
know,
there's
a
well.
I
guess
I
don't
often
think
of
this,
but
if
I
were
to
be,
you
know
like
I
generally
try
to
be
as
open
and
honest
as
possible.
So
it's
not
entirely
altruistic,
or
rather,
I
would
say,
hey.
I
I
personally
take
enjoyment
in
sharing
things
that
I
know
or
and
certainly
through
that
process.
I
learn
a
ton
from
others
as
I'm
trying
to
explain
something
that
I
don't
understand,
then
I
I'm
forced
to
learn
it
and
then
the
other
thing
about
that
is
hey.
A
A
I
gotta
say
that's
not
how
all
environments
work,
like
that's
some
people.
This
is
something
I
learned
earlier
in
my
so
so
since
you're
here
tina.
Let's
just
talk
about
everything
about
the
projects.
A
Let's
talk
about
the
philosophy
on,
but
I
would
say
that
one
of
the
learnings
that
I
took
as
a
younger,
thinner
individual,
was
how
that
job
security
isn't
retained
if
you're
white
knuckling
knowledge,
if
you're
like
white
knuckling,
if
you
think
that
the
job
security
or
or
being
successful,
comes
from
hoarding
the
knowledge
or
hoarding
control
over
the
thing
like
as
an
example,
anyone
in
the
world
can
edit
this.
A
I
don't
know
if
they
can
edit,
if
they
can
just
comment
on
this
doc,
but
they
can
edit
anyone
that
comes
willy
nilly
can,
edit
all
documents
delete
stuff
and
anyway,
the
power
or
the
how
you
get
good
and
how
how
you
do
awesome,
inspiring
things
is
by
the
inverse
of
that
is
like
empowering
others,
and
so
it's.
B
That's
really
that's
really
good
to
know
and
hear
from
the
founder
of
this
project.
So
thank
you
so
much
yeah.
A
Nice,
oh
nice,
awesome,
okay,
tina's
here
this
is
good
all
right!
Well,
we
got
a
few
folks
on.
I
think
everybody
slapped
their
name
in
and
also
just
there's
a
standing
rule
and
I'm
hoping
cush
doesn't
do
it
right
now,
there's
a
standing
rule.
If
you
don't
put
your
name
in
then
I
get
to
do
it
for
you
and
I
always
I
always
come
up
with
horrible
last
names.
So.
A
Kush
has
got
just
this,
you
know
big
big
brain
and
so
as
he
you
know,
as
he
got
locked
down
like
everyone
else,
he
just
took
the
buzzers
and
like,
and
so
he's
just
it's
a
nice
bulbous
brainy
yeah
anyway.
Speaking
of
kush,
hey
first
topic
that
we
wanted
to
talk
about
other
than
just
welcoming
in
folks
like
tina
and
other
newcomers.
A
I
don't
see
any
other
newcomer
names
on
the
call
other
than
vishal
who's,
vishal
you're
relatively
fresh.
I
think
you
got
to
introduce
on
this
call
before
and
yeah.
I
remember
now
because
the
last
two
times
that
you
introduced
it
was
you
have
an
audio
challenge,
so
you
were
doing
it
in
chat
yep!
That's
right!
Yep
there
you
are
oh
there
he
is
yeah
vishal.
We
haven't
literally
heard
from
you
before.
So
if
you
want
to
do
an
introduction,
that'd
be
great.
C
A
C
A
You
know
vishal,
I
don't
know
if
this
is
an
area
of
interest
for
you
or
not,
but
I'm
ignorant
of
what
it
takes
to
kind
of
you
know,
take
a
docker
image
and
get
that
functional
in
a
podman
environment.
A
But
we've
had
a
couple
of
people
ask
about
whether
or
not
the
projects,
support,
podman
and
in
part,
I'm
seeing
where
that's
coming
from
now
could
be
something
for
you
to
dig
into.
If,
if
that,
that
strikes
your
interest
so
think
about
it
to
have
you
vishal
kush,
I
think
you've
got
our
first
topic
of
the
day.
A
A
It's
visible
right,
no
you're,
not
for
me
just
a.
C
So
for
every
pr
which
is
merged
into
master,
an
edge
release
is
made
and
for
every
stable
release,
which
we
make
a
stable
releases
mean.
So
you
can
say
that
the
edge
release
are
more
updated
and
have
more
experimental
features
than
the
stable
releases,
so
the
following
command
allows
you
to
switch
between
the
channels
using
the
using
the
system
sub
command.
C
C
C
C
Okay,
so
let's
pause
for
a
bit
and
I'll
try
to
see
if
I
can
make
for
the
demo
at
the
last
because
of
the
system,
resources
which
docker
is
not
getting
right
now,
but
for
now,
if
you
want
to
check
out
the
code,
here's
the
pr
which
is
in
the
draft
mode
right
now-
and
you
can
see
over
here
the
changes
which
you
have
made.
We
have
two
simple
bash
scripts,
which
we
will
be
migrating
to
a
golang
function.
A
A
Nice
very
good,
so
just
you
know,
kush
kush
was
giving
context
as
to
the
what
this
new
feature
is
in
mesher
ctl.
A
And
and
part
of
the
context
you
can
find
at
the
the
link
measuring
build
and
release
strategy.
A
That
document
takes
you
through
the
continuous
integration
setup
that
mesh
reservoir
measure
ui
measuring
adapters
measuring
ctl,
the
command
line,
client,
how
they're
built
and
how
they're
released
the
portion
that
there's
a
number
of
considerations
about
you
know
how
all
of
that
is
done.
A
But
one
of
those
considerations
is
the
notion
that
there's
the
concept
of
a
stable
release
and
a
nightly
release-
I
quote,
unquote
nightly
rather
there's
a
stable
release,
which
I
don't
think
there's
any
better
adjective
to
use
to
describe
the
intention
of
that
channel
that,
as
a
user,
the
default
channel
that
people
are
subscribed
to
when
they
download
the
project
is
the
stable
channel.
It's
slower
to
release
less
bugs.
Hopefully
the
edge
channel
is
a
release
channel
that
people
can
subscribe
to.
A
That
gets
updated,
not
nightly,
but
it
gets
updated
as
and
when
a
pull
request
is
merged
into
the
mainline
branch
in
in
each
of
the
repos.
Actually,
there's,
if
you
look
across
the
layer,
five
projects,
I
don't
recall,
there's
between
there's
40
something
repositories
I
believe,
maybe
30
of
which
belong
to
or
are
there
for
purposes
of
measuring,
and
then
we
have
a
number
of
other
projects
most
or
like.
A
Basically,
all
30
of
them
that
are
related
to
measuring,
have
the
same
behavior
that's
described
in
here,
which
is
for
the
edge
channel.
It's
anytime
that
there's
a
merge
into
the
main
branch.
A
There's
a
new
edge
release
edge
latest
is
what's
used,
so
speaking
of
docker,
actually
we're
going
to
talk
about
docker.
I
think
a
lot
today,
but
the
way
that
all
of
the
the
way
that
mesh
reserver
measure,
ui
and
mesherie
adapters
are
released,
the
artifacts
that
are
released
the
form
factor,
if
you
will,
is
a
docker
image,
meshre
ctl,
the
command
line,
client,
it's
a
single
static,
binary
written
in,
go
but
released
to
a
couple
different
operating
systems,
a
couple
different
architectures.
A
Rather
so
it's
the
only
artifact
that
isn't
in
a
docker
image.
So
all
of
the
images
contain
are
then
tagged
appropriately
for
one
channel
or
the
next
and
in
the
really
in
a
stable
channel
they're,
also
they're
versioned
as
well,
both
so
that
people
can
pin
to
a
certain
version
also
so
that
they
can
know
what
version
they're
on.
A
Also
because,
when
you're
in
when
you're
inside
of
meshri
in
the
ui,
it
will
tell
you
what
version
you're
on
it'll
also
tell
you
if
you're
running
the
latest
version
or
not
right
here,
it'll
say
running
latest,
and
I
don't
know
that
this
is
the
best
lingo.
I
don't
know
that
everyone
would
quite
understand
that,
in
fact
that
is
the
latest.
It
will
be
evident
when
you're
not
running
the
latest.
A
A
C
C
C
C
So
now
it's
updating
the
containers
with
the
edge
containers
rather
than
using
the
stable
containers.
So
I
have
already
cached
these
stable
image.
Continuous!
That's
why
it's
quite
fast
right
now,
but
if
you
have
not
got
the
edge
containers,
the
machine
ctel
will
call
it
from
the
docker
hub
and
it
will
cache
it
so
next
time,
when
you
do
you
don't
get
the
error
like
I
just
got
over
here.
A
Again
and
then
in
in
mesherie's
ui
right
now,
assuming
that
mesherie
edge
is
running,
would
you
expect
to
see
edge
there
as
well.
C
Now,
if
the
version
is
not
edge
there,
no
no.
The
case
has
to
be
handled
because,
right
now
we
are
displaying
the
stable
version
over
here
and
we
are
not
tagging
edge
with
anything.
So
we
need
to
add
a
special
clause
and
if
you're
running
it,
then
it
will
just
say
you
are
on
the
edge
latest
rather
than
showing
eddie
release
tag.
A
A
C
C
So
we
are
on
a
channel
now
so
in
the
ui.
If
you
will
see
it
will
save
undefined,
because
the
ui
expects
a
stable
channel
to
be
running,
we
will
see
stable
undefined,
which
needs
to
be
fixed
and
also
we
need
to
provide
a
functionality
to
switch
the
channels
from
over
here,
which
is
right
now
a
disabled
radio
button.
C
A
A
A
That
would
that
would
get
annoying
and
it
would
get
long
so
bringing
in
a
context
command
mastery
ctl
system
context
to
let
people
configure
the
context
in
which
they're
going
to
use
mastery
ctl
as
a
client
to
talk
to
what
instance
of
measuring
that
they
might
be
running
what
instance
of
measuring
server,
because
you
they're
people
might
be
running
multiple
in
different
places,
and
so
just
like
cube
ctl
has
context.
Probably
so
should
mastery
cto.
A
So
kush,
for
my
part,
I'll
be
using
this
command
quite
a
bit
because
it's
very
frequent
that
I'll
want
to
verify
the
functional
behavior
of
a
new
of
a
recent
change.
So
this
is
great.
A
Any
other
feedback
for
cush,
okay,
nice.
Well,
a
couple
of
points
of
feedback
are
put
into
the
meeting
minutes
and
then
outside
of
that.
So
the
next
topic
up
was
gonna,
be
from
augustine.
Augustine
also
is
goes
by
austin
for
short,
which
is
nice
so
josh.
A
If
you
see
me
being
brief
with
his
name,
that's
why
so
augustine
is
a
contributor
in
the
community
he's
been
here
not
for
a
real
long
time,
but
has
been
highlighted
as
having
more
of
a
unique
capab
skill
set
than
a
lot
of
the
rest
of
us,
which
is
on
visual
design,
so
he's
been
busy
in
well
using
figma
as
a
as
a
tool
for
a
lot
of
that
visual
design.
A
Some
of
you
are
familiar
with
the
layer
5
brand
guide,
which
the
brand
guide
is
out
there
in
the
google
shared
drive
that
you
all
have
access
to
it's
a
powerpoint
presentation
or
it's
a
google
slide
rather,
and
it
talks
about
color
schemes
and
typography
and
do's
and
don'ts,
and
what
we're
about
and
etc.
A
It's
very
helpful
as
we
go
to
make
sure
that
there's
a
uniform
feeling
some
consistency
across
the
projects
that
literally
live
in
their
own
domains
and
as
we
go
to
excuse
me
as
we
go
to
spin
up
new
projects
like
get
nighthawk
well
leveraging
the
brand
guide
to
say:
well,
hey
what
should
the
logo
look
like
and
what
are
some
of
those
colors
and
it
shouldn't
it
should
be
its
own
project,
be
its
own
thing,
but
it
should
be
somewhat
evident
that
it's
a
child
of
layer,
five
or
like
a
child
of
the
community
that
so
it
should
have
some
resemblance
to
its
parent.
A
If
you
will
anyway,
one
aspect
of
the
brand
is
the
use
of
font
or
typography
historically
and
still
to
this
day,
we're
using
open
sans.
Am
I
sharing
my
screen?
Yeah.
Okay,
see
this
whole
time.
I
thought
sharing
my
screen
last
time.
I
thought
I
was
doing
it
this
time
anyway.
We
use
open
sans
as
the
font
face
as
the
typeface
across
on
the
websites
as
well
in
the
docs,
and
it's
you
know.
For
my
part,
my
my
opinion
is
that
that's
you
know
it's
good.
A
It
works
well,
and
you
know:
there's
it's
somewhat
recognizable,
not
entirely
so
so
there's
been
a
little
bit
of
a
refinement
on
that
to
continue
to
use
open
sands,
but
also
add
in
another
font,
canelo's
soft,
and
so
here's,
the
dock
or
the
slides
that
we
were.
I
was
talking
about,
there's
a
section
in
here
that
talks
about
typography,
so
open
sans
and
the
fact
that
it's
used,
but
this
other
quinellus
or
canela
soft
really
fairly
similar.
A
The
thought
is
that
it
would
be
used
for
headings
where
open
sands
would
be
used
for
copy
for
paragraphs.
A
So
how
is
this
relevant
to
technology
projects?
Well,
there's
a
few
things
so
so
for
most
of
you
know
that
we
meet
there's
a
meeting
every
day
of
the
week,
because
we
have
a
lot
of
projects
going
on
one
of
the
projects
which
meets
on
one
of
the
meetings
that
meets
on
monday.
A
So
feel
free
to
comment
at
leisure
on
anything
in
here.
Actually
anything
in
this
brand
guide
that
does
not
comment
on
anything
that
doesn't
carry
the
needs
updated,
because
the
needs
update
is
just
this.
This
stuff
is
is
wrong,
we're
still
in
the
process
of
updating,
but
all
right
next
topic
up
sriti,
I
thought
you
might
be
able
to
talk
about
catacota.
The
labs.
A
D
Great
all
right,
we
have
a
close-up
which
allows
you
to
go
run
mystery,
go
install
any
of
the
adapters
work
with
the
service
meshes,
deploy
sample,
apps
and
we'll
walk
you
through
the
process,
I'll
demo,
the
one
with
linkery.
Today,
when
you
start
the
scenario,
it's
an
entire
linux
terminal
which
will
be
prepped
for
you
with
a
running
mini,
cube
cluster,
and
you
have
to
wait
for
about
60
seconds
for
it
to
do
so.
D
We
already
have
been
prepped,
because
I
figured
that
we
wouldn't
probably
even
want
to
wait
and
there
you
go.
That's
all
you
need
to
do.
You
can
go
check
up
on
your
nodes.
You
can
go
through
the
entire
tutorial
and
then
the
great
thing
about
meshri
is
that
you
can
download,
install
deploy
and
auto
launch
measuring
button,
just
one
single
command
and
that's
what
we'll
be
doing
here.
You
can
go
click
it.
D
It
will
auto
copy
to
the
terminal
and
start
executing
this
takes
up
to
a
minute
because
it
downloads
and
pulls
up
all
the
containers.
D
I
already
have
it
running
here,
so
let
me
just
show
you,
let's
quickly
hop
over
to
the
mastery
server
click
on
displayport.
It
is.
A
Already,
if
you
would,
if
you
don't
mind
just
to
so
there
look,
can
you
go
to
advance
to
the
next
step
or
is?
Is
that
part
of
the
first
step.
D
All
right
you,
you
can
quickly
hop
over
to
the
mastery
server
we're
currently
having
a
little
bit
of
an
issue
with
the
messy
provider.
But
let's
go
with
none
for
now
I'll
open
this
up
to
go
bigger.
D
Yeah,
so
that's
more
visible
to
everybody
on
the
call
we're
currently
using
mini,
cube
and
mystery.
D
Well,
it
auto
discovers
your
cluster,
so
go
ahead.
Run
tests
ensure
that
it's
connected.
D
And
that's
it.
You
have
mystery
up
and
running.
You
can
go
through
the
rest
of
the
tutorial,
which
is
a
basic
run-through
of
how
messy
works
and
installing
any
and
all
sample,
apps
that
you
can
from
it
running
your
sample,
apps
and
getting
them
to
work
and
that's
it.
We
currently
have
five
of
those
tutorials
up
and
you'll
be
able
to
access
them.
D
I
think
in
a
day
or
two
yeah,
that's
it.
A
This
is
a
good
year
and
then
so
are
you
accepting
feedback
from
or
solutions
or
I
mean?
Maybe
rather
is
this
in
part,
also
a
call
for
comment
from
the
folks
on
the
phone
like
for
them
to
go,
give
it
a
try
and
give
some
feedback
in
the
slack
if
they
have
any
feedback.
Oh.
D
Yeah
sure
you
can
actually
go
run
this.
It
is
available
publicly
it's
just
not
available
under
the
layer,
5
banner,
but
I'll
put
a
link
to
this
in
the
media
minutes.
Please
do
go
run
these
labs
if
you
have
any
feedback,
even
if
you
have
any
feedback
by
the
end
of
the
call
speak
up
and
tell
me
and
we'll
work
around
it.
A
A
And
then,
if
you
would
just
describe
to
people
the
structure
of
the
catalog
and
if
it's
to
grow,
if
this
is
the
complete
set,
how
how
does
that.
D
At
the
moment,
this
is
the
this
is
one
of
the
courses
that
we'll
be
putting
out.
This
is
the
basic
course
which
basically
gets
you
started
with
measuring
it.
Lets
you
play
around
with
measuring,
let's
say,
install
service
measures.
It
lets
you
experiment
with
basic
features
and
maybe
get
a
few
sample,
apps
running
or
maybe
experiment
with
any
of
the
apps
features
or
any
of
the
measures
features.
D
We'd
also
be
having
other
courses
based
on
either
performance,
testing
or
smi
testing
or
more
advanced
features
of
measuring.
A
Nice,
I
so
I
am
not
hip
to
katakota's
nomenclature
or
their
like
their
structure,
so
I
said
catalog,
but
but
there's
there's,
but
can
you
take
us
through
that
like
what?
What
would
we
expect
this
to
look
like
in
the
in
the
end?
Is
there
like
a
single
location
or
like
eventually,
sort
of
a
single
look.
D
So
karakora
either
allows
you
to
have
courses
in
which
there
are
labs
or
a
set
of
labs
that
can
be
coagulated
or
put
under
a
single
heading.
That
makes
sense-
and
this
is
one
course
this
is
an
example
of
a
course
which
is
five
labs.
All
labs
can
be
individually
kept
as
well
and
yeah
that
that's
it
that's
the
entire
hierarchy.
A
A
A
Nice
they'd
see
five
scenarios
to
learning,
okay,
so
outside
of
soliciting
for
feedback
on
the
call.
If
this
isn't
and
so
you've
got
a
further
set
of
curriculum
to
create
here,
how
do
can
people
contribute?
If
so,
how
do
they
do
that.
D
Yeah,
of
course,
if
you
want
to
work
on
this
on,
creating
these
ping
me
and
I'll
be
more
than
happy
to
walk
you
through
the
process
and
get
you
started
on.
Actually
writing
one
of
these.
D
If
you
want
to
on
what
the
details
should
be
the
title
or
the
content
or
anything,
I
believe
the
content
form
would
be
an
appropriate
place
to
start,
which
is
basically
a
google
form
in
which
you
go,
give
a
suggestion
and
I'll
be
sure
to
put
a
link
to
that
in
the
meeting
minutes.
D
A
Okay,
I
suspect-
I
think
I
okay,
let
me
good
who
has
feedback
for
sriti?
Is
anyone
interested
in
working
on
these.
A
All
right,
let
me
let
me
share
a
couple
of
things,
so
so
the
so
vishal
you'd
ask
for
the
link.
I
mean
here's
a
link
to
the
account
that
sridevi
was
demoing
from
that
account
will
change
over
time.
These
are
a
work
in
progress
if
you
want
to
contribute
shri,
maybe
I'll
whoops
change
those
instructions
a
little
bit
like,
certainly
get
in
touch
with
with
sriti,
but
also
message
in
pub
one
of
the
public
channels.
A
In
slack,
the
location
of
the
labs
is
in
one
of
layer,
five
in
one
of
the
repos
under
layer,
five
io.
What
is
it
service
mesh
scenarios
is
that
it.
A
And
so
sweetie,
when
will
you
move
all
when
you
move
those
over?
Is
that
after
we
create
a
new
account
or
is
that
before.
A
A
Yeah,
okay
generally,
these
are
the
labs
that
we
will
be
looking
for.
So
I'll,
put
a
put
this
link
in
our
meeting
minutes
right
now.
This
is
a
long
list
of
patterns
patterns
and
things
that
you
can
do
with
a
surface
mesh
things
that
some
of
these
things
measury
facilitates
right
now
and
others
of
these
things
it
has
yet
to.
A
A
A
D
All
right,
please
do
go
test
those
and
if
something
doesn't
work
or
if
something
doesn't
look
good,
come
back
to
me
and
please
do
give
your
feedback.
E
Heli,
hey,
actually
no
success
at
all
like
there's
some
css
stuff
that
I'm
not
able
to
do
you
are
maybe
I
like
I
had
to
have
to
redo
all
of
that
to
make
it
work,
but
I'm
afraid
I
I'm
not
a
long
time
contributor
to
larify
ng
right.
I
was
not
working
on
that,
so
I
don't
know
what
all
to
maybe
change
that.
A
Okay,
since
last,
we
spoke
any
any
progress.
E
You
told
that
maybe
apply
some
horror
effects
to
the
parent
right.
A
parent
element.
E
Yeah,
so
maybe
we
can
get
the
success
from
that,
but
maybe
the
the
menu
will
go
away
right
after
you
over
onto
the
mega
menu.
A
Yep,
okay,
so
for
context
for
everyone,
there's
a
new
site
layer:
five,
there's
a
new
layer,
five
io
site
being
worked
on
to
displace
the
current
site,
and
so
this
is
certainly
one
of
the
things
that
gets
talked
about
on
the
monday
calls
there's
a
desired
menu
design
and
we
refer
to
it
as
a
mega
menu
and
that
design
incorporates
it's
it's
you
know
it's
it's
links
like
you
might
expect
in
any
menu.
A
You
look
menu
items
to
navigate
around
the
site,
but
it
also
includes
call
outs
to
specific
elements
to
to
highlight
and
those
change
you
know,
depending
upon
what
menu
you're
on
the
menu
itself
is
a
little
large
like
you
know,
there's
there's
some
work
to
be
done.
One
of
the
things
that
veneth
is
working
on
is
when
controlling
as
and
when
the
mega
menu
is
activated.
A
A
I
suspect
that
we
just
cover
the
general
air
cover
these,
this
all
all
of
these
items
and
that
the
animation
is
triggered
once
only
when
that
invisible
div
is
rolled
over
now,
which
of
the
what
data
to
show
in
there,
though,
would
be
dependent
upon.
E
Yeah,
I
did
that,
but
the
when
you
hover
or
that
like
or
when
you
hover
like
the
mega
menu
disappears
when
you
apply
this
activation
on
the
upper
level
items
like
you,
you
just
said
invisibility
right
yep,
so
that
mega
menu
disappears.
When
you
hover
out
over.
To
that,
can
I
show
that.
A
A
A
E
Okay,
now,
this
is
what
you
said:
right,
yeah,
it's
not
flickering
right
now,
but
when
you
hold
on
to
the
mega
menu
that
it
disappears
when
this
happens,
when
you
apply
hovering
effect
to
the
upper
element,
I
mean
the
div
invisible
deal.
So
this
is
what
I
tried
many
methods,
but
I
couldn't
come
up
with
the
correct
one.
A
All
right,
cool,
okay,
good
you!
It
looks
like
that.
The
first
step
that
you've
taken
is
working
well
right
because,
if
you
horizontally
roll
across
them-
yes,
oh
nice,
okay
and
then
you're
updating
that,
but
but
yeah
control
over
making
it
persist
like
control
over
when
to
tell
it
to
go
away.
Is
the
the
next
challenge?
Okay,.
E
A
A
All
right,
fair
enough,
nice
good,
all
right
progress,
yes,
it'll,
be
comforting
to
know
that
our
mega
menu
won't
induce
an
epileptic
epileptic
seizure
on
people
by,
like
you
know,
flashing
on
them.
Okay,
thanks
for
that
beneath
hey,
we
had
a
couple
of
other
topics
that
I
tossed
in
so
so,
if
does
anybody
else
have
questions
or
things
to
talk
about,
because
we've
got
about
five
minutes
left.
A
All
right,
so
so
briefly,
a
couple
things,
so
all
of
you
are
well.
Many
of
you
are
maybe
familiar
with
the
fact
that
docker
hub
had
introduced
some
rate
limiting
recently
that
they're
paying
for
the
world
storage
of
the
world's
docker
image
or
container
images.
A
Docker
images
and
they've
been
doing
it
for
many
years
and
they've
had
a
hard
time
as
a
startup,
making
an
open
source
centric
startup,
making
money
and,
like
they've,
got
high
high
s3
bills,
high
aws
bill
so
they're,
starting
to
rate
limit,
how
you
know
they're
starting
to
curate
and
remove
unused
images,
which
is
because
having
an
open
file
system
to
the
world
yeah,
it's
going
to
get
messy
so
anyway,
as
they
go
to
do
that,
one
as
an
open
source,
centric
organization,
we've
filed
for
and
have
been
approved
to
be
not
be
rate,
limited
or
not.
A
Not
have
those
that
apply
to
us,
so
we
applied
get
approved
and
I
need
to
follow
up
to
make
sure
that
those
enforcements
are
in
effect.
The
the
interesting
thing
to
note
here
is
that
we
had
recently
given
a
demo
at
dockercon
this
last
dockercon
canish
car
j.
One
of
the
contributors
had
given
a
presentation
on
the
imagehub
project,
which
you
can
find
details
of
here.
A
This
project
is
one
it's
of
interest
to
docker,
because
what
they're
doing
right
now,
the
image
hub
itself
is
a
sample
app.
It's
a
it's
a
ripoff
of
docker
hub.
It
was
just
generically
called
image
hub.
It
was
just
a
sample
app
to
to
demonstrate
a
technology
capability
on
web
assembly
or
wassum
and
applying
those
webassembly
filters
in
envoy,
so
envoy,
running
a
network
filter.
This
filter
that
we
wrote
was
written
in
rust.
A
And
what
it
demonstrated
was
the
ability
to
rate
limit
docker
pull
requests
based
on
a
couple
of
factors,
one
of
those
factors
being
business
logic,
business
logic
like
hey
of
the
request
to
pull
an
image
of
the
auth.
If
the
user
is
authenticated,
if
the
user
is
unauthenticated,
apply
this
rate
limit,
if
the
user
is
authenticated,
take
a
look
at
that
user's
price
plan.
Their
subscription
plan
are,
they
subscribed
to
the
free
tier,
the
enterprise
tier.
A
I
forget
what
we
used
as
examples
inside
this
sample
app,
but
depending
upon
what
tier
they
were
on
the
filter
would
either
allow
the
pull
request
or
it
would
rate
limit
the
person
well,
as
fate
would
have
it
a
couple
months
later,
docker
is
rolling
out
this
rate,
limiting
based
on
basically
docker's
doing
the
exact
same
thing
as
what
we
designed
in
this
sample
app
and
the
hub
team
wants
to
talk
to
us
and
good.
We
want
to
talk
to
them,
it
would
be.
A
It
would
be
something
if
they
ended
up
using
our
demo
or
if
our
demo
was
what's
the
right
word
something
of
a
premonition
of
things
to
come.
A
I
think
that
it
is,
I
think,
that
a
number
of
the
projects
that
we
have
are
things
that
will
be
useful
for
people
in
the
future,
so
kind
of
kind
of
an
interesting
twist
of
fate,
both
as
both.
I
think
it
relates
to
us
as
we
use
docker
images
for
releasing
software
potentially
would
get
rate
limited
ourselves
as
a
as
a
community,
but
also
then,
to
see
one
of
our
sample
projects
get
potentially
used
as
the
technology
to
actually
rate
limit.
A
A
So
anyway,
if
people
are
into
c
plus,
plus
or
rust,
and
want
to
do
things
with
envoy
and
network
filters,
there's
you
know
say
so
in
one
of
the
channels.
Well,
there's
there's
work
to
be
done.
A
A
Something
else
to
highlight
here
is
that
there's
there's
we
had
announced
a
number
of
maintainers
a
number
of
people,
who've
been
in
the
community
consistently
and
sort
of
aligned
with
the
vision
and
the
culture
of
layer
five
and
have
been
recognized
for
their
efforts
and
have
become
maintainers
of
various
either
aspects
of
projects
or
for
projects
themselves,
and
while
we
celebrated
them
in
this
community
call,
we
didn't
necessarily
celebrate
them
more
broadly,
more
publicly
and
so
we're
working
on
doing
that
with
little
cards.
A
Social
media
cards
that
highlight
the
individuals.
Those
cards
could
be
accompanied
by
a
blog
post
as
an
optional
thing,
and
part
of
that.
That
line
of
thinking
is
that
the
cards
would
say:
hey
meet
the
maintainer
so,
and
so
they
could
read
more
about
them.
A
They
could
maybe
come
and
join
them
on
a
podcast
where
we're
I'm
interviewing
them
or
they're
kind
of
talking
about
their
experience
there,
and
the
thing
is,
is
we're
considering
having
a
video
podcast
on
a
regular
basis
anyway,
and
that
has
a
fair
bit
to
do
with
one
of
the
books
that's
being
written
now.
It's
called
service
mesh
patterns,
this
one
and
the
thought
is
that
the
two
co-authors
of
this
book
end
up
talking
about
once
a
week.
A
They
talk
about
the
current
pattern
that
they're
they're
writing
and
it's
actually,
this
this
same
list
of
patterns
here
are
the
ones
that
will
be
discussed,
and
so
the
thought
is
that
we
can
talk
about
other
things
like
meeting
a
maintainer.
So
so
I'm
just
kind
of
throwing
out
some
thoughts
and
some
upcoming
activities.
A
Another
activity,
hopefully,
is
that
there
is
a
meshery
roadmap,
but
it
is.
A
There's
no
timeline
to
it
and
there's
no,
like
version
numbers
associated
with
particular
features.
It's
just
there's
a
document
inside
of
the
community
drive
that
lists
out
a
long
wish
list
of
functionality
and
a
little
bit
of
refinement
might
go,
might
go
a
long
way.
There's
certainly
enough
of
us
here
now
to
begin
to
be
a
bit
more
structured
begin
to
be
able
to
say,
hey,
we
think
in
version.6
that
dots,
what
is
dot
six?
It
should
be
this.
It
should
be.
This
is
the
feature
the
release,
theme
and
and
so
on.
A
A
A
Just
just
how
I
like
contributors,
just
quiet
and
compliant,
that's
how
it's,
how
we
do
it.
A
A
good
okay,
well,
hey,
we'll
see
everybody
next
week
same
time
same
place
same
bad
jokes,
if
not
for
me
from
sweetie.
A
So,
okay,
thank
you
all
see
you
guys
next
week.