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From YouTube: Layer5 Community Meeting (Aug 20th, 2021)
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Layer5 Community Meeting - Aug 20th, 2021
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A
A
If
you
are
new
here,
please
introduce
yourself
on
the
call
so
so
that
the
community
can
get
to
know
you,
and
you
can
also
get
to
know
the
community
better,
so
aman
aman.
This
is
your
first
time
on
this
call
right.
Would
you
like
to
introduce
yourself.
B
Yes,
am
I
audible,
yeah,
yeah
yeah,
so
myself,
amanda
vedi,
I
am
an
undergrad
in
iit,
santbat,
india.
I
was
also
a
google
summer,
of
course,
student
in
pathology,
and
I
have
also
contributed
to
thanos.
So
this
term,
I'm
looking
forward
to
contribute
to
layer,
5
and
mashri
project
and
I've
also
applied
for
the
project.
Playground,
service,
mess,
playground
project
under
the
lfx
mentorship
fall
term.
So
yeah,
I'm
looking
forward
to
explore
and
learn
from
you
all
and
contribute
to
the
code
base.
A
Nice,
thank
you
amen,
so
so
we
will
talk
about
the
lfx
internships
today,
so
we
have
a
couple
of
open
spots
in
lfx.
So
if
you
are
looking
to
do
that
stay
tuned
to
today's
meeting,
I
actually
will
talk
about
talk
about
them.
C
Yeah
sure
so
my
name
is
zandi
lambda,
I'm
a
second
year
electronic
student.
C
A
Awesome,
I'm
also
from
kerala.
So
this
is
the
first
time
I'm
seeing
someone
from
kerala
in
this
community.
That's.
D
A
Good
welcome
saying
thank
you
for
introducing
and
also
happy
honor
awesome.
A
All
right,
I
don't
think
anyone
else
has
is
left
to
introduce.
So
if
you
are
new,
please
you
can
introduce
yourself
in
the
chat.
As
we
start
the
meeting
today,
all
right.
A
So
a
couple
of
announcements:
so
yesterday
we
just
released
a
cncf
webinar,
so
the
first
cncf
webinar
as
measurey
as
a
cncf
project,
so
the
webinar
is
on
measuring
the
service
manager.
So
it
gives
an
introduction
to
the
project
and
the
community,
so
you
can
check
that
out
on
youtube.
A
It's
available
it's
available
on
demand
and
we
will
have
a
couple
of
other
webinars
that
are
coming.
So
this
is
also
an
area
where
you
can
contribute.
So
if
you
have
something
to
discuss,
we
have
enough
slots
available
with
cncf
to
conduct
webinars.
So
if
you
are
interested,
please
signal
that
as
well.
A
And
another
open
source
event
that
was
happening
was
in
mexico.
So
in
mexico
there
was
an
open
source
contributor
summit
cc,
oss,
so
jesus
alphonse,
so
alonso
and
rodolfo
has
been
representing
missouri
and
the
lair
fight
community
there.
So
jesus
has
delivered
a
session
on
contributing
to
missouri,
so
this
session
is
available
on
youtube,
so
you
can
check
that
out
as
well
and
we'll
be
also
conducting
a
mystery
works
workshop
there.
So
is
anyone
representing?
A
I
don't
think
they
are
on
the
call,
but
we
we
are
having
a
session
a
session
on
a
measuring
workshop
in
the
event
as
well.
So
you
can
also
check
that
out.
The
link
is
in
the
chat.
E
Oh
okay,
oh
we
just
okay!
Well,
we
just
we
just
missed
her.
We'll
have
to
we'll
have
to
show
her
the
meeting
minutes,
but
for
those
of
you,
who've
been
here
for
some
time,
you've
interacted
with
anita
eihuman
and
she
just
last
week
was
starting
as
a
developer
advocate
to
focus
on
cuverna
at
nirmata.
E
So
also
for
those
of
you,
who've
been
here
for
some
time.
You're
you
might
be
familiar
with
caverno.
We
had
well
nirmata's
founder,
a
long
standing,
an
ex-colleague
of
mine
come
and
present,
and
so
the
two
communities
have
overlapped
some
and
so
she's
gonna
go
help,
try
to
teach
people
about
caverna,
which
is
fantastic,
so
congrats
to
anita.
She
will
also
continue
to
be
active
here,
so
she's
been
in
that
role
for
about
a
week
and
you
you
still
see
her
doing
quite
a
bit
so
she's.
E
She
continues
to
earn
her
mesh
mate
title.
So
that's
so
amazing!
So
I
like
harder
to
think
of
like
we
couldn't
have
finagled
that
outcome.
Any
better
like
we
couldn't
do,
could
have
been
a
better
thing,
so
really
cool,
really
cool.
I
wish
she
was
here
dang.
It
oh
cheers.
E
Okay,
now
I
can
actually
say
mean
things
because
since
anita's
here
now
now
it's
okay
to
say
I
just
don't,
I
just
don't
have
anything
to
to
say
anything
bad.
I
mean
I
need
a
super
pumped
for
you
just
what
an
exciting,
how
how
have
you
been
drinking
from
the
fire
hose
so
to
speak,
or
have
you
been
it
looked
like
you,
you
went
off
immediately,
put
your
hands
on
some
kubernetes.
Maybe
you
put
your
hands
on
getting
like
running
meshery.
E
D
E
A
E
A
But
so
meghana,
I
guess
it's
over
to
you
to
start
things
off.
A
G
Sure
it's
not
a
big
of
a
topic.
Actually,
I
just
had
a
suggestion
for
the
menu
of
minibar.
We
have
the
side
menu
so
right
now
we
only
show
the
down
arrow
like
the
drop
down
arrow,
basically
only
when
we
hover
on
it.
I
just
started
out
if
it
was
intentional
or
if
there's
a
particular
reason
for
that
and
I
started
talking
with
aditya
chatterjee,
so
he
just
mentioned
to
add
it
over
here.
So
I'm
just
thinking
it'll
be
more
user-friendly.
G
If
you
have
a
arrow
like
there,
no
subfolders
or
not,
and
it
will
even
clear
out
the
like
the
we
were
thinking
of
like
needing
a
division
between
the
sub
categories
and
the
topic
right,
like
intimidation
is
just
not
enough.
So
I
was
thinking.
Maybe
adding
something
like
the
google
drive
or
mail
has
give
me
a
second.
I
can
like
show
it
if
you
want
what
I'm
talking
about.
G
E
Hey
while
we're
looking
at
this
just
some
interesting
observations,
I
wish
abby
was
here,
but
there's
a
couple
of
things
that
need
to
be
attended
to
so
I'll
say
that
I'm
I
am
running
safari
here,
so
maybe
that
makes
a
difference.
Maybe
it
doesn't.
But
one
thing
like
right
right
here:
this
is
obnoxiously.
E
Jilted,
like
it's
just
slightly
off
and
that's
a
side
note
to
what
megan
is
talking
about,
but
but
if
someone's
looking
to
get
in
and
fix
something,
it
would
be
really
nice
if
this
just
aligned
over
the
top
of
these
two
are
aligned
because
they're
not,
but
for
what
megan
is
referring.
There's
one
other
thing
before
we
talk
about
what
megan
is
saying,
which
is
as
a
user
right
now,
as
the
user
goes
to
hover
good,
so
so
we're
seeing
a
light
changing
background
on
the
menu.
That's
nice.
E
I
can
see
that
one.
I
can
see
that
this
is
colored
and
that
that
means
it's
active.
So
that's
gives
me
an
indicator
as
to
where
I
am
and
measuring
it
nice.
So
I
go
to
hover
and
I
get
the
background.
I
get
a
pointer
good.
I
go
here.
I
get
a
a
slight
change
in
background
and
a
pointer
here
though,
so
I
guess
I
can't
click
this.
I
was.
G
G
E
E
But
two
things
but
yeah
but
yeah,
but
just
because
it's
intentional
doesn't
mean
it's
right.
E
Well,
there's
a
couple
of
things
I
mean
one
is
like:
if
it's
clickable,
we
should
probably
use
the
pointer
like
the
hands
so
that
people
you
have
that
indicator,
because
what
it
looks
like
is
like.
Oh
I,
oh
I
guess
I
can't
click
this.
That's
not
you
know
you
do
get.
This
is
the
only
visual
indicator
that
you
get,
which
is
that's
actually
new.
The
thing
is
is
like
we
should.
E
We
should
probably
have.
We
should
show
the
background
like
like
if
what
we're
using
the
background
to
do
is
indicate
that
you
can
click
on
something.
It's
like
well
one.
That's
just
inconsistent.
I
mean
look
at
life
cycle,
so
life
cycle.
It
shows
a
background,
but
so,
like
consistency
is
like
number
one
at
the
very
top
of
what
makes
something
quality.
E
If
it's
inconsistent,
it
is
definitely
not
high
quality.
Something
can
be
fairly
terrible
as
long
as
it's
consistent,
it's
still
quality
is
still
terrible
quality.
It's
still,
it's
still
low
quality.
It's
just
not
very
good
anyway.
Point
is
got
to
be
consistent
and
so
yeah.
If
we
would
put
reinstate
the
background,
that
would
be
good
and
then
for
what
megane
is
saying
make
it
again
you
want
to
you
were
saying:
hey:
should
we
show
a
like
a
a
small
chevron?
That's
turned
on
its
side
to
indicate
where
you
are.
Is
that
what
it
was.
G
H
D
E
Yeah,
you
know
one
one
thing,
though:
yeah
there's
a
couple
of
there's,
probably
a
couple
of
things
that
will
work.
One
thing
that,
if
if
you
all
would
consider
at
the
same
time
is
is
this
is
when
this
is
expanded.
E
There
is
an
indication
by
way
of
indentation
it's
a
slight
indentation
from
where
this
starts
to
where
this
starts.
That's
good,
like
these
are.
These
are
sub
menu
items,
but
that's
the
only
indication
that
a
user
gets
that
this
is
a
sub
menu
item,
and
it's
really,
you
know
it's
like
to
the
extent
that
no
one
notices
that
same
distance
is
off
down
here
and
no
one's
done
anything
about
it,
and
I've
actually
pointed
it
out
is
that
then
people
definitely
don't
get
the
indication
that
oh,
this
is
a
sub
menu.
E
So
if
you
would
at
the
same
time,
give
consideration
to
a
slight
discoloration
for
those
you
know
for
like
sub
menu
items
if
they
all
had
a
lighter
background
or
a
darker
background
or
a
something
so
that
it
shows
that
their
collection
and
that
there's
a
difference
between
the
top
level
menu
and
the.
E
That,
like,
I
think
that
you
it
could
be
debatable
that
whether
or
not
you
would
persistently
show
the
presence
of
this
carrot
or
not
if
other
things
were
taken
care
of.
If
the
background
was
lighter
down
here
for
all
of
these
you're
showing
you
were
showing
that
there
was
a
collection,
it's
like
well
look
if
that,
if
that
visual
indication
is
readily
apparent
enough,
then
you
may
not
need
then
that
may
fix
the
or
alleviate
and
potentially
eliminate
the
need
to
leave
this
persistent,
because
it
would
be.
You
already
know
like.
E
Oh
this
is
this:
according
this
is
an
accordion.
It
has
been
expanded.
People
have
been
using
software
like
this
long
enough
that
they
might
assume
they
could.
You
know,
come
collapse
and
expand
an
accordion
and
when
they
hovered-
and
they
saw
this
indicator
pop
up
like
that
was
like
that
might
be
enough,
but
right
now,
since
we're
not.
Since
there
is
no
visual
indication
that
there
is
an
accordion
or
like
yeah,
I
can
see
where
megan's
thing
is
come
coming
from.
So.
E
E
E
Please
please
bring
your
thoughts
and
most
of
most,
everyone
does
but
know
that,
even
if
the
thought
and
ultimately
ended
up
being
rejected
that
it's
so
much
better
that
you
bring
the
thought
than
not
like,
and
so
in
this
case
I
think
it's
being
accepted
and
so
and
megan
I
did
it
in
front
of
30
something
people
too
yeah.
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you
lee,
so
I
guess
abby
is
also
not
on
the
call
today
so
lee.
Would
you
talk
about
the
lfx
mentorships.
E
Yeah,
actually
before
we
do
so
before
we
do
there's
so
abi
kumar
in
the
community
had
opened
up.
Excuse
me.
J
So
actually
like,
we
were
talking
about
the
issue
over
like
in
one
of
the
issues,
and
the
issue
was
related
to
like
whenever
some
component
is
rendered
before
the
component
fetches
data
from
the
internet,
like
it's
me
showing
some
kind
of
empty
spaces
right,
because
it's
been
rendering
enough
before
the
data
has
been
fair.
J
So
I
have
noticed
that
in
a
lot
of
places
for
one
of
these
things
like
aditya-
and
we
were
like-
are
discussing
that-
and
we
have
created
issue
to
fix
it
in
one
place,
but
I
think
that
needs
to
be
like
addressed
in
a
lot
of
places
like
yesterday,
we
were
working
on
an
issue
like
there
was
this
remote
provided
tab
in
the
user
preferences
pages
page
and
the
remote
provider.
J
Tab
should
be
visible
only
when
the
user
is
using
the
remote
provider
right
so
to
verify
whether
the
user
is
using
remote
provider
or
not.
We
need
to
fetch
some
kind
of
data
right
so
before
the
data
is
fetched
for,
like
just
some
like
a
seconds
or
two.
The
tab
is
already
there
and
when
the
like
code
realizes
that
the
user
is
using
local
provider,
then
that
tab
gets
like
removed.
So
I
I
guess
before
stretching
the
data
we
need
to
do.
J
One
thing
are
we:
we
should
use
some
kind
of
placeholder
over
here,
like
some
kind
of
floater
and
all
and
that's
been
issue
in
like
a
lot
of
places.
J
I
think
that
pr
has
not
been
merged
yet
so
it
won't
be
visible
in
this
thing
in
this
master
branch,
but
the
issue
is
like:
if
you
go
to
the
remote
provider
type
from
general.
First
of
all,
like
please
open
general,
whoever
screen
it,
gender,
like
in
the
user
preference
tab
only
in
the
user
preference
page
itself.
J
Yes,
now,
if
you
open
a
remote
provider
like
there,
was
this
like
split
second
or
something
like
in
case
of
a
rpg
screen
like
it
was
a
little
bit
more
time,
but
for
that
time
nothing
has
been
rendered
on
the
screen
and
once
the
data
is
fetched,
then
like
re-rendering
takes
place,
and
these
things
are
pops
up.
So
before
that
there's
nothing.
J
So
I
think
there
should
be
some
kind
of
loader
or
some
kind
of
placeholder
over
there,
but
for
this
we
have
opened
one
issue,
but
that
would
be
fixing
only
this
thing,
but
there
are
a
lot
of
places
where
this
is.
This
thing
is
happening,
so
I
think
we
should
be
taking
care
of
the
placeholders
and
the
loaders.
I
Yeah
in
particular,
this
is
happening
because
the
remote
provider
preferences
are
not
a
part
of,
and
we
are
importing
it
as
a
different.
J
Actually,
yes,
the
other
place
which
I
was
talking
about
was
right
there
in
the
user
preference
step.
One
thing
which
I
was
thinking
was
like:
if
it's
not
been
taken
care
of
in
those
two
places,
it
might
not
have
been
taken
care
of
in
other
places.
Also,
so
the
two
places
were
in
the
user
preference
page
itself.
J
One
was
the
thing
which
I
just
talked
about,
and
one
more
thing
like
we
just
created
this
remote
provided
tab
to
be
visible
only
in
case
the
user
is
using
remote
providers
so
like
for
that,
we
need
to
fresh
data.
What
kind
of
provider
the
user
is
using,
and
if
the
provider
is
local,
then
like
re-reentering
takes
place,
then
the
remote
provider
is
removed
from
the
tab
right
so
that
that's
kind
of
like
a
split
second,
where
we
can
see
the
remove
provided
tab
was
there,
but
it
just
gets
removed.
I
J
Okay,
so
basically
I
thought
like
there
was
no
component
for
the
like
a
placeholder
or
something,
so
I
think
that
thing
was
not
taken
care
of.
We
can
use
like
a
reusable
component
if
you
have
like
embedded
some
code
for,
like
particular
components
right,
we
can
use
one
like
general
component
for
the
placeholder
or
something
like
for
these
things,
and
we
can
use
that
everywhere.
J
No,
you
were
right
like
in
case
like
when
we
have
not
some
data
remote
provider.
Tab
is
always
there.
Once
we
have
fetched
the
data,
we
know
that
user
is
using
local
provider,
then
like
in
a
split
second,
that
remote
provider
gets
like
like
gets
removed
from
that
tabs.
J
E
I
actually
have
a
comment
about
mr
agarwal
himself,
so
yasha
has
been
in
the
community
for
a
little
while,
just
before
the
community
call,
he
was
well
invited
to
have
his
github
user
joined
the
well
probably
a
couple
of
the
github
orgs
that
the
layer,
five
community
stewards
which
is
and-
and
I
think
he
politely
accepted
it,
which
is
really
nice,
and
that's
in
part
like
our
way
of
saying,
thanks
trying
to
recognize
the
contributions
that
yash
has
been
making
and
is
a
sign
that
well
that
we
consider
that
at
least
of
what
we
know
of
josh
today
that
he
seems
to
be
perpetuating
the
culture.
E
That's
here
of
learning,
of
trying
to
do
good
things
trying
to
treat
others
well
pay.
You
know
paying
it
forward,
and,
and
so
anyway,
congrats
josh
on
being
invited.
And
then
you
know
thanks
for
thanks
for
doing
just
what
you
just
did
making
another
suggestion
like.
I
know
you,
you
were
recently
working
in
this
area
so
and
then
that's
in
part
how
you
came
to
this
suggestion,
which
is
great
so.
J
E
And
so
anyway,
while
yash
is
coming
back
a
couple
of
quick
things,
so
so
you
know
in
general
those
what
might
seem
like
a
small
like
on
on
my
screen.
It's
like
a
really
quick
blip.
You
can
see
the
difference
between
switching
from
general
to
performance.
E
I
can't
think
of
a
better
adjective
at
the
moment,
but
there's
no
there's
no,
you
know,
but
when
you
go
to
remote
provider,
it's
really
quick,
but
you
see
it
a
flash
for
a
second
there's.
No,
nothing
here
now
that
that
data
fetching
could
take
more
than
a
blip
right
and
so
as
a
standard
as
part
of
mesherie's
ui
architecture
and
its
convention
of
user
experience.
Like
the
user
experience
paradigms
that
it
would
use
yeah
hey
if
you're,
making
a
remote
call.
J
J
That
from
waits
for
no
one
right
so
basically,
oh
sorry,
sorry
I
disturbed
some
conversation.
E
Say
something
about
mothers,
but
so
yeah.
Now
I
totally
lost
my
so
good.
So
anyway,
josh
is
pointing
out
that.
E
E
If
you're
having
to
wait
on
something,
it's
also
an
indication
to
the
rest
of
us
that
what
are
we
doing?
That's
making
the
user
wait.
Maybe
we
shouldn't
be
doing
that
if
we
can,
we
can
try
to.
You
know,
there's
various
tactics
to
kind
of
avoid
that
sort
of
a
thing,
but
if
for
nothing
else-
and
it's
like
universally
true,
yes,
if
they're
gonna
have
to
wait
for
more
than
a
second
or
at
all,
there
should
be
a
spinner
there.
They
don't
neces.
E
It
can
be
so
fast
that
they
don't
even
know
that
there
was
a
spinner,
that's
fine,
but
but
anyway,
whether
it's
a
spinner
or
whatever
visual
indicator
is
being
used.
It
should
be
consistent
and
it
it
should
be,
and
there
may
be
multiple
types
of
visual
indicators
that
that's
indicate
like
system
activity.
So
as
a
both
as
the
way
of
wrapping
up.
What
joshua's
saying
and
as
a
way
of
kind
of
transitioning
to
some
things
that
abi
kumar
was
working
on
is
actually.
J
I
I
had
a
point
to
add
on
like
what
you
said
about
why
the
thing
was
happening
like
why
there
was
this
split
second
of
thing
like
when
user
had
to
wait
right.
So
in
that
case,
like
in
the
user
preferences
page
like,
if
you
please,
will
please
open
that
user
preference
page
in
this
remote
provider?
What
is
happening
right
now
is
that
this
thing,
the
data
which
is
being
used
here
is
getting
fetched
for
every
render
and
re-rendering
is
happening
like
whenever
we
are
switching
tabs.
J
So
I
don't
think
that
we
need
to
re-enter
the
data
every
time
we
switch
the
tab
right
so
that
that
thing
needs
to
be
fixed
and,
like
we
were
talking
about.
Like
me,
anita
and
alithea
were
talking
about
like
we.
We
should
use
redux
over
here
so
like
if
we
don't
even
don't
use
redux.
J
We
should
like
think
of
some
other
solution
temporarily
like
because
this
thing
is
like
making
some
unnecessary
like
network
calls
right,
and
this
thing
user,
just
switch
switches
between
tires
a
lot
of
times,
so
I
don't
think
that
makes
sense
to
re-render
the
data
every
time.
For
this
thing.
E
Yeah
totally,
it
doesn't,
as
a
matter
of
fact,
there's
a
a
proposal
for
the
use
of
for
how
to
improve
how
state
is
managed
in
the
measure,
ui's
architecture.
There's
a
link
to
that
proposal
in
the
zoom
chat.
Now
I
encourage
everyone
to
go.
Take
a
look
like
that.
That'll
have
a
sweeping
effect
to
how
it
is
that
measure
uis
runs,
make
sure
your
eyes
run
yeah.
E
I
was
just
gonna
say
that
if
there's
a
visual
indicator,
there
can
be
different
styles,
so
one
of
those
styles
being
if
you
go
look
at
if
you
go
retrieving
results,
potentially
you'll
notice,
there's
a
small
visual,
horizontal
visual
indicator
right
on
the
lower
right
hand
side.
So,
if
I
go
retrieve
more
results,
it's
performing
an
operation
the
system
is
and
that
placement
is
fine.
It's
good!
It's
fine
right.
E
Maybe
maybe
that
would
work
here
down
here
or
maybe
the
user
would
get
you
know,
wouldn't
it
was
something
to
think
about
like.
Should
there
be
an
indicator
in
the
modal?
Moreover,
like
shouldn't,
we
just
be
showing
the
fact
that
there
is
going
to
be
some
something
here
as
opposed
to
nothing
because
there,
if
this
is
being
shown,
that
means
that
the
user
is
using
a
remote
provider
and
if
they're
using
a
remote
provider,
there
should
be
something
in
here,
and
so
it
will
make
it
less
jarring.
E
If
we're
not,
if
we
don't
have
a
zero
height,
you
know
tab
or
area
something
else
to
give
consideration
to
then
you're
like
well,
how
how
tall
should
it
be?
Well,
I
don't
know
as
tall
as
the
one
that
they
were
coming
from.
Maybe
you
don't
know
what
height
it's
going
to
be,
but
you
could
start
there
all
right,
so
moving
moving
on
is
there's.
There's
speaking
of
measuries
ui,
there's
some
new
componentry,
that's
coming
and.
E
And
we're
using
a
library,
a
react:
json
schema
form
a
terribly
named
library
that
that
does
literally
describe
what
it's
doing
to
help
make
mesher's
ui
more
dynamic
in
general,
less
fragile
and
easier
to
sustain.
So
there's
a
lot
of
dynamic
data
that
meshri
discovers
about
your
environment.
A
lot
of
service
meshes
that
measuring
manages
those
service
meshes
are
their
own
projects
themselves.
They
do
all
kinds
of
things
trying
to
code
in
to
measuring
all
the
things
that
all
of
those
service
meshes.
E
First
of
all,
that's
just
hard
to
do
in
general
one
time,
and
then
you
try
to
keep
pace
with
those
service
meshes
as
they
augment
their
capability
and
make
more
and
change
and
have
bugs
and
whatever
oh,
my
gosh,
like
you'll,
just
you're,
just
perpetually
churning
just
trying
to
keep
up
with
all
those
changes.
So
you
really
want
to
have
a
system.
That's
much
more
dynamic,
and
so
part
of
that
dynamicism
is
to
ensure
that
your
ui
is
responsive
to
the
the
capabilities
of
those
service
measures.
E
So
there's
some
back
end
goaling.
That
meshery
has
that
is
dynamically
figuring
out
the
ability
of
each
service
mesh.
It's
dissecting
that
understanding
it
bringing
it
back
and
and
makes
that
information
available
to
the
ui.
Well,
then,
the
ui
needs
to
know.
Okay,
as
someone
goes
to
manage
a
given
service
mesh,
what
is
appropriate
to
show
the
user?
Can
the
user
invoke
this?
This
command,
for
example
like?
Is
that
supported
and
apparently
it
is
or
if
I
go
to
a
different
service
mesh.
This
is
validate
service
mesh
configuration.
E
If
I
go
to
link
or
d
okay,
there's
a
validate
service.
Mesh
configuration
wait
a
second
there's.
Only
one
choice
hold
on.
If
I
go
back,
validate
service
mesh
configuration
there's
two
choices:
okay!
Well,
okay!
Well,
so
that's
an
example
of
the
fact
that
the
ui
needs
to
be
dynamic
and
and
like
populating
a
you
know,
drop
down
with
one
additional
thing:
one
additional
option:
yeah,
that's
dynamic,
but
it's
not
a
cool
trick.
I
mean
it's
not
a
and
it's
not
that
we're
trying
to
make
cool
tricks
we're
trying
to
make
software.
E
E
Well,
that
means
things
need
to
be
really
dynamic
so
that
that's
being
worked
on
by
a
collection
of
individuals
and
abi
kumar
had
recently
tried
to
enhance
the
user's
ability
to
dynamically
manipulate
patterns.
E
I've
said
the
word
dynamic
like
too
many
times,
and
so
I
wanted
to
show
the
work
that
he
had
done,
and
so
his
pr
had
been.
The
work
that
he
had
done
is
just
in
a
pr
that
had
just
gotten
merged
of
just
before
the
call,
and
so
I,
since
we
don't
have
a
lot
of
necessary
there's
barak,
he's
been
doing
well.
Look
at
that
look
at
that
guy
doing
good
guy.
He
stays
up
late
too,
he's
committed
the.
E
This
is
a
good
review,
so,
like
I
want,
I
figured
like
it
was
pretty
cool
what
abi
had
done
and
it's
a
dramatic
enough
shift
in
the
user
experience
that
it's
important
for
all
of
us
to
reflect
upon,
because
it'll
be
pervasive,
like
it
will
probably
be
doing
more
of
that
in
the
future
and
so
getting
everyone's
opinion
now
and
kind
of
getting
your
your
mouse
pointer
on
it.
Now
it's
probably
is
good.
E
So
let
me
let
me
show
all
of
you
a
couple
of
things
and
say:
okay.
Well,
the
the
pull
request
that
we
want
to
look
at
is
this
one,
so
abby
submitted
it.
I
know
this
might
be
kind
of
small
on
some
of
your
screens,
but
the
details
aren't
so
important
I'll
be
submitted
it
and
the
dish
it
has
reviewed
and
has
accepted,
and
so
that
was
just
a
few
moments
ago
or
whatever.
E
Yeah
less
than
an
hour,
maybe,
and
so
every
time
that
a
pull
request
is
merged
to
mesheri.
There's
a
new
release
of
measuring
immediately
well
made
available
within,
like
15
20
minutes,
10
minutes
that
release
is
called
the
edge
release
and
if
you
want
to
know
about
the
like
the
details
of
how
these
two
different
release
channels
work,
this
is
good
doc.
There's
a
good
dock
for
you
to
go.
Look
at
there's
a
stable
release,
channel
and
an
edge
with
these
channels.
So
the
edge
release
goes
out.
E
You
know
almost
immediately,
which
means
that
if
you're,
that
you
can
go,
try
out
things
fairly
quickly.
So
if
you
want,
if
you're
running
a
meshery
deployment,
you
can
manage
your
the
details
of
your
the
configuration
of
your
messenger
deployment
using
the
command
line,
client
and
so
here's
a
command
line.
Client
for
ctl.
E
E
So
here
in
my
environment,
if
I
do
measure
ctl
system
context
view,
it
will
tell
me
details
of
my
current
context.
My
current
one
is
called
kate's,
that's
just
the
name
I
gave
it
and
it
tells
me
details
about
that
particular
deployment.
This
deployment
is
subscribed
to
the
edge
release
channel
subscribe
to
the
latest
version,
whatever
that
latest
version
is
which
should
be
obvious,
I
release
I.
E
It
should
be
decay,
okay,
and
so
let
me
let
me
switch
up
a
couple
of
things
to
make
sure
that
we
can
get
this
downloaded
quickly,
and
that
is
right
now
my
deployment,
I'm
deploying
measuring
running
onto
running
on
kubernetes
and
I'm
running
kubernetes,
just
as
anita
and
I
were
talking
about,
I'm
running
it
on
docker
desktop,
I'm
just
running
kubernetes
locally
and
instead
of
deploying
meshri
inside
of
kubernetes,
I'm
going
to
deploy
it
in
docker
for
a
couple
of
reasons
that
I'll
explain
another
time,
and
so
I
need
to
change
this
up
so
so
I
can
just
I
can
create
a
new
context.
E
And
so
doctor
context,
2
has
been
added,
so
I
will
switch
to
that
context.
So
I'll
say
context
switch
docker
2,
which
moves
me
from
my
k-8s
context
to
this
one
great
I
actually
already
had
had
measuring
running
okay,
and
so
I
actually
need
to
stop
measuring
running
in
that
other
context,
because
otherwise,
I
probably
won't
have
I'll
blow
past
my
system
resources
because
I'm
also
running
three
service
meshes
at
the
same
time
and
so
a
little
known
secret
alone.
E
Tip,
I
suppose,
is
that
if
I
want
to
stop
a
messagery
system
from
running
a
deployment
from
running,
you
know
you,
we
use
this
command
to
system
stop.
But
if
I
execute
it
right
now,
I'm
going
to
execute
it
on
this
context,
the
one
that
I'm
currently
in
it's
like.
Well,
no,
that's
not!
I
want
to
execute
it
on
my
k8's
context,
so
I'll
provide
it.
This
dash
c
or
hyphen
hyphen
context
that
way
it
invokes
the
command
against
the
other.
You
know
temporarily,
I'm
switching
context,
I'm
sending
it
to
that
deployment.
E
Pods
that
are
running
on
my
system
and
measuring
is
terminating.
You
can
see
that
istio,
you
know
the
istio
control
plane
is
here.
The
kuma
control
plane,
the
osm
control
plane,
which
is
not
doing
very
well
and
meshri,
is
all
but
gone
great.
So
now
that
mastery's
gone
and
mesri
has
stopped,
let's
go
ahead
and
just
start,
but
this
time
it
should
be
on
docker
and
just
to
be
double
check.
We'll
just
look
at
our
context.
Again,
it's
docker
two.
The
platform
is
docker
great
and
I'll,
be
unstable.
E
Latest
oops,
that's
not
what
we
want
to
do
system
consist,
so
we
want
to
switch
our
subscription
channel
through
channel
set
or
switch
there's
two
command
set
and
switch.
E
E
E
By
the
way,
any
of
you
here
focused
on
devops
or
want
to
work
on
docker
files
and
docker
image
challenges
the
marie
container
image.
It's
gotten
lazy,
it's
gotten
a
little
round
around
the
middle
needs
to
go
on
a
diet,
and
the
thing
is:
is
it
doesn't
have
enough
willpower
to
diet
by
itself,
so
it's
going
to
need
someone
to
help
it
slim
down.
E
E
But
but
that
good,
so
hopefully,
people
are
getting
a
little
more
familiar
with
like
contexts
if
you
haven't
spent
a
lot
of
time
with
them,
there's
an
faq
on
contexts
and
how
they
work.
What
they're
about
things
that
you
can
do
with
them
and
I
believe
it's
in
the
using
using
mesh
ctl
yeah,
there's
an
faq
here.
What
is
the
difference
between
context?
Why
are
they
necessary?
What's
current
content,
you
know
these.
What's
a
mesh
config,
those
are
interesting
things.
E
E
By
the
way,
svgs
don't
always
scale
in
safari,
I
guess
we're
not
allowing
these
buttons
to
scale.
So
that's,
maybe
not
great,
because
you
should
be
a
little
bit
larger
anywho
I've
never
clicked
this
button
before.
Oh,
okay,
wait!
Let's
go
back
okay.
What
are
we
dealing
with
here?
We've
got
a
pattern.
What
the
heck
is
a
pattern!
Well,
we
don't
have
enough
time
to
describe
that.
So,
let's
not,
but,
let's
just
suffice
to
say
it's
yammel
like
a
yama
file.
Okay.
E
What?
If
I
hover
here,
do
I
get
a
tool
tip
telling
me
what
this
is
going
to
do?
I
don't
know
it
looks
like
a
set
of
check
marks.
What
about
this?
One
shoot,
I
don't
know,
looks
like
a
play
button.
Okay,
I'll
have
to
upload
it
well.
I
wish
it
would
tell
me
what's
going
on.
Hopefully
it
doesn't
blow
up
the
system.
Okay,
it
didn't,
but
so
anyway,
that's
not
just
for
the
comedic.
E
You
know
it's
not
just
for
me
to
be
stupid,
it's
to
speak
out
loud
as
a
user
and
try
to
figure
out.
What's
going
on
so
there's
opportunities
galore.
If
someone
wants
to
go,
add
some
tool
tips
that
would
be
lovely,
okay,
so
we're
dealing
with
this
yama
file.
I
suppose
edit
pattern
configuration
of
this
okay.
I
know
I'm
editing,
okay,
so
I'm
editing.
That's
what
that?
Okay,
it
was
an
edit
button.
Then
oh
yeah,
oh
an
application
on
an
application
that
sounds
naughty.
E
E
E
Well,
actually,
it's
just
book
info.
I
don't
think
it
describes
what
service
mesh
to
roll
nope
it
does
it's
running
on
istio,
okay,
I
can
save
my
pattern.
I
can
delete
it.
These
are
pretty
small
compared
to
these
up
here
now,.
E
Okay,
anyway,
we
don't
have
to
sit
here
and
listen
to
me.
Do
this
stuff
point
is
he'd
made
something
pretty
pretty
fantastic
like
we
we
previously
and
currently
in
the
stable
release.
All
we
let
people
do
is
manipulate
yammer
in
a
ui.
It's
like!
Well,
that's
what
vs
code
is
for
it's
like.
Okay,
can't
we
give
them
something,
that's
and
so
give
them
something
that's
easier
to
configure
their
service
mesh
to
configure
their
applications.
So
that's
what
abi
is
working
on
here
and
he's
showing
that
you
can
build
that
out
visually.
E
You
can
add
additional
containers
into
your
application,
assign
them
ports
and
things.
This
is
helpful
better
than
having
to
edit
yaml.
I
get
to
see
what's
going
on.
I
can
also
see
what's
going
on
over
here
as
well.
Okay,
good
anyway,
it
was
a
big
jump.
It
was
worth
taking
a
look
at.
I
think
this
will
go
out
into
a
stable
release,
probably
soon
it
needs
a
heck
of
a
lot
of
cleanup.
E
So
there's
there's
a
lot
to
be
done
in
golang
and
react.js
is
a
lot
to
be
done
in
the
community
and
since
I'm
monologuing
everyone-
and
we
have
one
last
topic
on
lfx
internships
and
vindu-
is
that
our
last.
E
I
Oh
I
would
like
to,
but
my
my
kubernetes
cluster
is
not
working
properly,
so
I
wouldn't
be
able
to
demo
it.
It
was
the
same
thing
which
we
demoed
in
the
in
this
week's
development
call
where
we
changed
the
mixing
settings
all
together
and
yeah.
That
was
it.
I
just
wanted
to
rebrief
someone
who
was
not
present
in
that
particular
world.
K
Yeah
sure
I
might
be
a
little
bit
so
you
can
yeah
it's
it's
very
brief
for
my
case.
K
Yeah,
so
what
I've
been?
What
I've
been
working
on
is
about
the
handling
error
message
in
in
measuring
in
mesh
map,
particularly
so
basically
there's
there's
two
parts
of
it.
So
the
first
one
is
the
is
the
part
that
if
we
cannot
find
the
the
graphql
plugin
inside
the
inside
the
specified
directory,
then
it
will
show
the
appropriate
message
that
that
that
we
should
know.
K
Basically
we
should
we
should
understand,
and
then
the
second
part
is
about
the
whether
the
the
the
build
the
build
mesh
map
version
is
not
compatible
with
the
the
build
measuring
version.
Yep.
So
I'll
show
you
the
second
one
first,
because
it's
already
there.
So
if
I,
if
I
load
the
mesh
map
and
then
and
then
it
will
show
us
the
end
in
cube
bar,
which
is
happening
on
the
right
bottom.
K
So
measuries
and
mesh
map
version
are
matching,
so
you
can
see
the
actual
actual
version
of
the
each
of
the
applications,
so
measure
is
0.5.45
and
the
mesh
map
or
extension
is
0.5.47.
K
K
K
E
E
E
Is
that
just
because
you're
running
your
build
locally-
and
you
know
yep.
K
That's,
I
think
I
think
this
is
this
mostly
will
happen
when
we're
developing
on
local.
If
it's
on
release,
then
I
don't
think
that
this
will
happen.
So
that's
why
I
just
put
it
as
a
nq
bar
just
to
show
that
the
developer,
that
this
is
that
you,
your
mesh
map
or
your
measure,
is
not
updated
to
the
latest
latest
version.
I
I
One
will
redeploy
mixing
if
it
is
already
not
deployed
and
the
second
one
will
reconnect
within
that
server
itself,
because
this
were
the
main
breaking
points
which
people
had
while
they
were
connecting
to
nuts,
so
that,
I
think,
is
a
good
brief
of
what
was
going
on
and
explained
it
in
detail
in
last
week's
class.
So
I
don't
want
to
take
a
lot
of
time
and
one
more
thing.
We
also
added
one
more
state
called
connected
like
there's
now
visible,
active
and
connected
active
means,
visitor.
I
E
Oh
yeah,
no,
it's
funny
because
I
was
just
gonna
make
a
comment
about
the
potential
like
inconsistency
of
the,
how
we
have
active
with
the
capital
letter
and
then
we
have
connected
it.
You
know,
okay,
but
at
the
same
time
you
were
also
making
a
joke
about
us
being
consistent
in
how
we
spill
over
time,
so
there's
always
so
much
to
share
and
show
around.
E
I
A
Any
other
comments
to
drew
any
other
topics
left
to
discuss
today.
A
So,
as
lee
mentioned,
we'll
send
out
some
links
for
the
lfx
internships
on
slack.
So
if
you
have
questions
on
the
lfx
internship,
you
can
ask
them
in
slack
as
well.
A
There
are
a
couple
of
projects
I
actually
mentioned,
so
we
can
send
out
these
links
to
chat
as
well.
F
A
E
Yeah
yeah
I'm
on
there
is
no
is
a
new
you're
talking
about
the
playground
initiative,
which
is
net
new,
like
ground,
zero.
E
Which
is
either
super
exciting
or
really
scary,
it
depends,
but
just
to
actually
I'll
speak
to
it
for
just
a
moment,
because
I
think
it's
probably
of
interest
to
all
of
you
and
some
you
know
it's
not.
There
are
many
any
number
of
people
that
need
to
come
to
bear
on
this
particular
project.
This
is
the
notion
that
I
don't
know
if
you
know
this,
but
some
of
you
actually,
some
of
you
just
some
of
you
are
just
coming
to
docker.
For
the
first
time
it's
entirely
natural.
E
We
were
just
talking
with
mesh
mate,
anita
and
she's,
installing
docker
on
her
machine
and
getting
familiar
and
now
docker's
been
here
for
eight
and
a
half
years
or
so,
but
it
didn't
make
sense
that
anita
to
get
into
docker
until
now,
and
so
now
she
is-
and
my
point
of
using
that
example
is
to
say
that
service
meshes
are
even
further
down
the
cloud
native
trail
I'd.
E
That's
debatable!
It
depends
how
you
look
at
it,
but
point
is
service
meshes,
aren't
at
the
start,
they're
along
your
path
somewhere,
which
means
it'll,
take
even
longer
for
you
to
get
to
them,
which
means
that
even
though
they've
been
here,
it
depends
on
how
you
want
to
measure
between
four
and
a
half
years,
or
so
people
can
be
coming
to
them
for
the
first
time
for
a
long
time,
which
means
that
providing
people
learning
resources
about
how
they
work
is
a
wise
investment
providing
the
world
with
the
with
the
service
mesh
playground
very.
E
Why
isn't
something
that
stands
to
be
referenced
for
all
time?
Well,
at
least
for
the
next
decade,
for
a
long
time,
how
many
of
you
used
playwithdocker.com
or
play
with
kubernetes.com,
probably
saying
the
url
not
exactly
right,
but
there's
two
of
them
and
we
we
actually
measury,
was
born
in
playwithkates.com
or
with
kubernetes.
We
used
to
give
workshops
on
service
meshes.
E
Capability
or
maybe,
if
mastery
isn't
a
multi-tenant
capability,
that
there's
either
orchestration
scripts
to
be
written
to
spin
up
sandbox
environments,
for
people
to
play
with
meshri
and
and
therefore
play
with
through
meshri
play
with
any
service
mesh
play
with
sample
applications
play
with
samples
patterns,
sample
filters,
learn
break
things
and
then
get
a
new
environment.
It's
that's
actually
not
dissimilar
from
what
people
are
able
to
do
today
with
the
interactive
labs
that
are
published
at
layer,
five
dot,
io,
slash,
lab
yeah
here,
they're
also
published
in
the
google
and
mesherie
docs.
E
So
these
are
nice
environments.
A
lot
of
you
are
familiar
with
catacotta.
These
environments
run
in
catacota
and
they
we're
actually,
we
have
open
issues
to
for
new
scenarios
to
be
created.
So,
if
you're
looking
to
so
that's
a
great
place
for
people
to
jump
in
and
contribute,
there's
a
repo
in
out
there.
That
has
the
markdown.
Basically
that
drives
those
labs.
E
Well,
I
don't
want
to
spoil
the
surprise
necessary
or
it's
because
most
people
that
are
running
a
mesh
today
most
of
the
world
is
not
running
a
mesh
just
by
numbers,
but
they
will
or,
like
you
know,
it'll
take
time
most
who
are
running
a
mesh
today
are
using
the
tried
and
true
pieces
of
functionality
stuff
that
they
can
grok
and
can
begin
to
use
and
that's
totally
natural.
E
There's
a
lot
of
built-in
there's
a
lot
of
intelligence
that
can
be
built
into
the
network
to
do
to
run
business
logic,
to
dynamically
cache,
certain
types
of
images
or
certain
types
of
content,
or
to
strip
out
certain
css
or
to
condense
it
or
to
there's
actually
there's
a
collection
of
about
30,
not
patterns.
I
think
some
of
you
thought
I
was
going
to
say
patterns,
there's
a
collection
of
30.
E
Page
speed
filters
that
are
being
written
to
be
envoy
compatible
that
meshrie
can
dynamically
load
to
help
like,
like
there's
just
there's
a
there's,
a
myriad
of
things
that
people
get
to
experience
with
the
mesh.
One
of
those
is
have
you
ever
used
full
story.
Most
of
you
are
wondering
what
I'm
talking
about.
You'd
have
to
go
to
fullstory.com
and
look
at
the
fact
that
they
just
got
100
million
in
a
series
d,
because
they've
got
a
popular
project.
That's
focused
on
product
managers.
E
What
does
this
have
to
do
with
the
service
mesh
fullstory.com
lets
you
track
rage,
clicks
lets
a
project
manage
a
product
manager
of
a
sas
offering
like
a
mobile,
offering
like
this
watch
and
track
where
people
are
clicking
on
their
mobile
phone
and
understand
how
their
shopping
and
where
they
stop
shopping
and
what
stops
them
from
making
that
purchase
and
where
they're
rage
clicking
trying
to
figure
out
why
this
button
thing
doesn't
work
that
isn't
the
button
and
all
that
and
guess
what
all
of
that
transaction
goes
across
the
network.
E
So
I'm
hoping
that
I've
got
the
dots
close
enough
that
some
of
you
might
be
able
to
connect
the
dots
between
what
I'm
trying
to
say
is
that
if
there's
a
okay,
what
does
that
have
to
do
with
the
service
mesh
playground?
E
Is
that
the
playground
in
catacota
isn't
going
to
be
powerful
enough
to
show
people
what
they
can
really
do
with
the
mesh
or
what
they
can
even
more
do
with
the
mesh,
which
is
deliver
a
full
story
from
a
mesh?
E
Just
in
the
presence
of
a
mesh,
you
can
bring
this
type
of
capability,
and
so
what
we
want
to
do
with
the
service
mesh
playground
is
when
people
go
in
is
when
they're
in
the
playground
and
they're
turning
on
something
like
traffic,
they're,
canarying
or
doing
a
traffic
split,
or
something
like
that
that
they
could
actually
manipulate
their
own
experience.
The
experience
they're
having
in
the
ui
when
they
go
there
and
they're.
Seeing
you
know
the
the
service
mesh
playground
and
has
you
know
green
in
the
background?
Maybe
just
because
that's
how
it
was.
E
So
there's
some
stuff
that,
though,
there's
there's
this
and
a
number
a
few
other
things
that
the
world
hasn't
seen
just
yet
that
that,
for
my
part,
I'd
like
for
them
to
see
from
here
like
so
we're,
we
can
show
people
some
new
stuff.
So
that's
what
the
that's!
Why
that's?
The
reason
why
the
service
mesh
playground
is
needed
and
not
just
catacota
labs.
E
So
that's
one
of
the
projects
there's
other
lfx
projects
out
there.
This
isn't
a
small
one.
Also
I'll
say
this.
If
I'm
on
still
on
yeah
and
others
is
to
be
forthright
and
to
be
frank,
like
the
you,
if
you
read
the
faqs
on
the
their
five
io
programs
page,
it
will
say
things
like
internships
are
earned,
not
earned
based
on
or
I'm
sorry.
Internships
are
awarded
based
on
having
been
earned
and
proven
that
you're
you're
interested
in
the
tech
you're
aligned
with
the
community
you're
nice
to
other
contributors.
E
You
take
cues
from
maintainers,
many
of
which
are
on
the
call
that
there
are
mysteries,
the
most
popular
lfx
program
out
there
and
that's
because
of
the
other
people
that
are
sitting
around
you,
because
they
take
time
to
teach
others
and
to
engage
and
to
create
something.
That's
really
cool,
and
you
know
for
those
of
you
yet
to
have
a
long
careers.
E
You
know,
hopefully,
eventually
you'll
come
to
understand
that
as
you
go
to
get
promoted
within
your
career
path,
that
promotions
aren't
given
in
advance
of
or
they
shouldn't
be,
and
most
well-run
environments
they're
not
they're,
not
given
in
advance
of
where
you
of
what
you
might
aspire
to
do
or
you're
a
software
engineer,
you'd
like
to
be
a
manager.
Okay,
let's
make
you
a
manager
and
see
if
it
works.
No,
you
need
to
be
managing
people
and
showing
that
you
can
lead
people
and
then
you're
already
doing
it.
E
So
we'll
just
recognize
you
with
the
promotion
for
what
you're
already
doing
it's
the
same
thing
here,
the
internship's
a
really
serious
thing
here:
the
people
that
you're
looking
at
there's
a
number
of
interns
that
are
on
the
call
now
they're
creating
some
stuff
that
scared
the
crap
out
of
the
kong
cto
yesterday
morning
so
much
they
had
to
go
out
and
start
tweeting
about
some
advanced
capabilities
that
he
otherwise
wasn't
going
to
show
off,
but
he
saw
them
being
showed
off
by
some
of
the
interns
here
and
I
don't
know
if
he
changed
his
shorts
afterwards,
but
he
sure
did
change
his
tweets.
E
So
anyway,
that's
the
that's.
How
seriously
we
take
them
and
I'm
super
pumped
that
people
are
here
interested
in
them
and
I
want
you
all
to
have
them.
There
are
basically
more
internships
to
give
out.
Then
there
are
people
ready
to
pick
them
up.
That
doesn't
mean
that
you
necessarily
have
to
be
the
world's
best
coder.
That's
not
necessarily
the
measure
of
how
these
are
awarded
to
people
it's
about
we'll
go.
You
know
what
I
won't
go.
E
E
Never
read
them.
No,
it's
like
I
know
oman.
Is
it's
different?
It's
totally.
It
is
not
the
thanos
project
or
it
is
not
the.
I
know
this
sounds
like
almost
off-putting
potentially,
and
I
hope
that
it
isn't
but
yeah
I
don't
know,
or
I
mean
I
don't
know,
I
don't
know
how
else
to
respond
to
it
other
than
just
like
it.
E
E
So
oman
like
it
the
to
be
forthright
again
with
all
of
you,
like
the
the
internships
that
are
available
here,
they're
going
to
go
to
those
that
have
been
here,
working
their
butts
off
and
and
are
like
clearly
here
to
build
themselves
and
build
others,
and
if
you're
here
in
another
three
months,
having
done
that,
then
I
guarantee
I
guarantee
you'll
get.
E
You
would
get
one
then
and-
and
I
just
try
to
be
as
forthright
as
possible
like
I
really
hope
that
you
are
and
you
do
but
but
not
not
just
you
I
mean
for
anyone
else.
Who's
just
joined,
it's
like
the
trial
period
for
getting
the
internship
started
three
months
ago,
so
the
next
one
for
next
quarter
starts
now
so
and
and
so
stay
stick
around
get
in
get
in
and
like
dig
in
and
let's
like,
let's
start
that
project
now,
if
that's
what
we
want
to
do.
E
But
but
but
yeah
so,
but
but
apply,
get
get
in
there,
and
even
when
it
is
time
for
the
who,
whoever
you
are
to
have
the
internship.
Still
I'm
still
not
going
to
read
the
proposal.
It's
got
nothing
to
do
with
that.
E
E
So
thanks
for
asking
the
question,
so
I
hope
that
helps
people.
We
probably
I
harangued
you
all
on
this,
but
super
stoked
that
people
are
that
you
all
are
here.
Ashish
tewari
is
an
individual,
that's
kind
of
like
a
good
example
of
someone.
Who's
he's
been
rolling
up
his
sleeves
for
a
while
he's,
actually
working
on
an
important
piece
that
I
keep
kind
of
asking
people
about
like
where
where's
his
work
at
not
that
he's
moving
slowly.
It's
just
that
his
work
is
quite
important.