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B
A
Cool
all
right,
clearly,
I'm
slightly
I'm
slightly
tardy
this
morning.
I'm
trying
to
get
the
well
trying
to
get
a
few
things
knocked
out,
so
I
didn't
mean
to
keep
everyone
waiting,
which
is
actually
a
good
reminder,
just
a
quick
housekeeping
item
that
it
should
be
the
case
that
this
meeting
is
startable
by
anyone
that
anyone
could.
C
A
A
A
I
unders
by
the
way
yeah.
I
think
this
has
been
announced.
Actually
navendu.
You
know
what
let
me
not.
Let
me
not
talk
about
it,
we'll
just
put
it
as
an
item.
A
Vendo,
do
you
mind
listing
out
the
name
of
open
source
the
linux
foundation's
open
source,
something
something.
E
Yeah
yeah,
I
will
add
it
yeah.
A
A
A
A
C
D
Did
have
some
new
comments
showing
about
about
three
four.
A
Now
I
wish
that
folks,
like
frank,
were,
are
on
right
now
or
nomstradamus,
because
because
I
would
like
to
heckle
them
because
actually
it
becomes
if
you're
an
american.
When
you
see
the
name
frank,
it
becomes
like
it's
a
pretty
good
guess
that
that
friendly
individual
or
is
is
chinese
and
they're
doing
us
a
favor
by
trying
to
choose
an
easy
to
enunciate
name
and
the
way
that
you
can
kind
of
tell
that
is
well.
Is
that
they're
they're
most
often
names
from
like
the
50s?
A
And
so
so
it's
always
this
telltale!
A
It's
like
george
or
I
don't
know
what
a
richard
I
don't
know
what
another
good
name
is,
but
but
anyway
it's
it
is
kind
of
them
to
make
sure
that
we
can
enunciate
their
names
so
anyway,
or
there's
other
folks
like
nam,
stradamus
that
well
I
don't
know
this
this
individual,
his
name
is
goggin
and
he
had
just
helped
raise
up
an
issue
for
a
new
service
mesh
pattern,
which
is
actually
a
first,
it's
kind
of
an
important
first
because
measuring
because
because
some
of
you
are
contributing
to
a
book,
that's
being
written
on
service
mesh
patterns
and
some
of
you
or
many
of
you
are
contributing
to
measuring,
which
takes
those
patterns
and
brings
them
to
life,
and
this
individual
had
brought
forth
a
new
pattern
and
asked
to
add
it
to
the
list,
which
is
great.
A
A
Okay,
now
that
I've
randomly
hit
a
bunch
of
different
things,
we've
got
some
announcements
this
week.
D
Sure
so
hi
everybody
good
job
good
afternoon.
From
this
end,
so
our
job
starts
with
the
first
one,
anita
human.
I
don't
think
she's
here
she
actually
is
on
transit.
So
I
I
doubt
she'll
be
able
to
join
her
flight
code
lead,
so
I
thought
she'll
be
able
to
join,
but
she
just
joined
the
community
management
team.
So
congratulations
to
anita
in
absence.
Congratulations
to
her
so
yeah!
Then
the
second
announcement
we
have
so
tan
news
just
completed
his
internship
area.
Five.
A
I
have
to
say
something
I
actually
have
to
say
did
a
fantastic
job
to
neutral.
I
was
just.
F
A
It
was
about
seven
months
and,
and
I
searched
and
searched-
I
had
a
really
hard
time
coming
up
with
the
complaint
to
make
about
tenush,
which
is
kind
of
a
complaint
unto
its
own
kind
of
frustrating.
For
me,
there's,
like
always,
I
need
something
to
complain
about.
Otherwise,
I'm
just
not
happy.
D
Yeah,
congratulations
so
channels
the
spotlight
is
a
new
job.
Ain't.
C
A
Yeah
tunisia,
if
you're
on,
I
don't
know
if
you
have
any
complaints
of
your
own.
D
Yeah
conversations
once
again
tanish,
so
our
the
next
thing
we
have
so
four
weeks
ago
right
we
brought
in
from
she
called
africa.
So
if
you
are
not
aware
of
the
contribution
program,
it's
an
open
source
program
to
you
know:
diversify
open
source
in
africa
and
it's
meant
seas
from
shikoh
africa.
She
could
have
guides
are
a
an
ngo
here
in
africa
that
you
know
mentors
and
supports
women
in
tech.
D
So
eight
mentees
came
in
from
chicago
four
weeks
ago,
and
today
they
are
graduating
today
ends
like
max
the
end
of
their
four
weeks,
mentorship
program
and
I'm
so
happy,
and
they
are
graduating
today,
like
they've
with
both
the
mentors
and
I'm
really
so
grateful
to
all
the
mentors
and
all
the
mentors
did
like
a
good
job.
You
know
trying
to
giving
their
time
and
guidancing.
D
So
I
was
a
mentor
anita.
A
human
was
also
a
mentor.
Navendu
was
also
a
mentor.
Josh
patel
was
also
a
mentor,
then
ching,
mei
meth.
I
was
also
a
mentor
and
thank
you
to
the
eight
mentees
graduating
today.
Persons
of
naimats
good
news,
anissa
joy-
I
don't
enjoy
it
here,
yet
elizabeth
and
cynthia
and
abiola.
D
Thank
you
so
much
for
you
know
all
the
contributions
you've
made
so
far
without
I'll
be
doing
a
demo
of
the
community
handbook
right
later
on,
but
thanks
so
much
for
all
your
contributions,
and
you
know
all
your
inputs
to
their
five
program.
We
are
happy
that
you
were
able
to.
You
know,
contribute
to
the
project
and
oh
joy
is
here
sorry,
so
thank
you
so
much
for
every
every
contribution
you
made
and
we
hope
you
stick
around
right.
D
We
hope
you
stick
around
and
keep
contributing
and
we
also
hope
you
had
a
good
time.
So
if,
if
this
parameters
any
of
you
have
anything
to
say,
you
can't
omit
your
can
just
see
something.
H
Okay,
I
don't
really
have
much
to
say
I
just
want
to
thank
and
also
ruth
and
anita
for
their
time
and
always
like
always
get
to
like
give
poster
feedback,
but
we've
done
so
far
and
thank
you
lee
thanks
as
well.
Thanks
to
everyone,
yeah
you're,
welcome.
B
All
right
so
for
me,
it's
actually
been
a
great
experience,
because
personally,
I
used
to
think
open
sources
for
like
professionals
for
people
with
about
10
years
experience.
So
it's
just
always
something
I
never
look
into
yeah.
Well,
like
it's
been
amazing.
I
just
realized
that,
like
every
contribution
is
like
needed
and
is
appreciated
and
like
this
community
has
just
been
fantastic
and
yeah.
I
really
enjoyed
my
time
here
and
I
look
forward
to
more
contributions.
D
C
D
D
D
Sure
you
are
audible
goes
on.
D
I
think
she
cut
off,
so
someone
else
can
go.
So
we
continue,
we
don't
stop.
We
go
ahead
with
the
meeting,
so
one
last
person,
please.
I
think
somebody
was
yes.
D
Okay,
so
it
has
been
really
great,
has
been
a
very
great
and,
like
I
say,
a
whole
learning
field
four
weeks
of
contributing
here
and
the
community
has
been
so
welcoming
and
amazing,
big
shout
out
to
navendu
and
then
ph.
They
have
been
of
great
help
and,
yes,
roots.
Youth
you've
also
been
instrumental
to
our
progress
here
and
thank
you
so
much
lee,
for
you
know
the
platform
to
learn
and
grow
with
community.
It's
been
wonderful,
okay,
thank
you,
everyone
yeah,
so
I'll
handle.
A
Yeah,
oh
nice.
Well,
you
know
a
few
of
you
hit
hit
a
few
things
on
the
head.
One
of
the
words
that
joy
just
used,
I
think
is,
is
a
key
word,
and
it
reminds
me,
as
I
was
going
through
the
community
handbook
that
that
some
of
you
have
have
created,
but
well
it
reminds
me
that
sheepishly,
I
will
admit
that
I
still
owe
abiola
a.
A
I
have
an
outstanding
action
item
that
that
she
might
crucify
me
with
I'm
not
sure,
but
part
of
the
action
item
was
to
help
provide.
You
know
some
some
content,
some
context
for
what
layer,
5
is
and.
A
A
The
reason
that
it's
a
little
bit
different
to
different
people
is
because
well
different
people
have
different
goals
or
different
places
in
their
journey,
so
to
speak
and
they're
not
and
we're
not
necessarily
all
on
the
same
journey.
A
lot
of
them
look
similar
or
they
can
be
described
in
similar
ways.
But
but
that's
you
know
what
I
don't
know
that
I've
articulated
this
before
that
that
might
be
part
of
the
special
sauce,
so
to
speak,
is
that
is
recognizing.
Each
individual
is
passionate
about
particular
things
enjoys
particular
style
of
interaction.
A
Some
people
really
like
bad
jokes,
some
people,
you
know,
roll
their
eyes.
Some
you
know
just
and
and
taking
a
moment
to
embrace
some
of
those
differences
to
try
to
be
accommodating.
It
takes
a
little
bit
longer
and
sometimes
it
requires
a
patience
on
both
ends
like
the
just
for
everyone.
That's
interacting
the
thing
is,
if
you,
if
you
participate
in
that
long
enough,
there's
a
number
of
things
that
happen
one.
A
A
Quite
quite
proud
of,
and
it's
I
don't
take
it
until
unto
me
to
be
receiving
the
the
pride.
The
reason
I'm
quite
proud
of
it
is
I'm
on
well,
you
know.
I
consider
that
this
is
an
important
call
and
we
do
some
preparation.
A
Agenda
we
try
to
go
through
some
stuff,
but
but
I
also
consider
that
there's
a
number
of
other
calls
that
I'm
on
that
are
quite
important,
like
we're
just
deciding
some
things
on
those
other
calls
not
not
layer.
Five
calls
but
other
calls
that
are
well
the
the
there's
a
ripple
effect
of
some
of
their
decisions
across
the
cloud
native
ecosystem.
So
either
you
will
hear
about
our
project
or
you
won't
based
on
some
of
those
decisions
and
the
other
calls.
A
So
I
think
that
they
are
important
things
and
those
calls
often
have
half
the
number
of
people
in
them.
So
it's
kind
of
an
it's
kind
of
an
interesting
thing
to
reflect
on
and
so
part
of
what
lizette
had
said
is
well
yeah.
I
think
it
was
lizette
had
said
that
you
know
all
contributions
are
recognized
and
important,
and
it's
really
true.
A
A
A
Oh
shoot,
it
was
a
good
thought.
It
was
kind
of
a
different
way
of
reflecting
on
not
just
the
fact
that,
like
docs
are
important
or
engagement
or
just
having
reception
like
just
being
there
to
to
say
hi
to
people
and
and
answer
you
know,
questions
they
have.
I
forgot
what
the
oh
that's
frustrating
anyway,
one
of
the
nice
things
about
paying
it
forward
each
of
you
in
turn.
A
It's
it's
one
of
those
things
where
you
see
someone
else
saying
hi
to
someone
and
pretty
soon
you
start
saying
hi
to
someone
and
pretty
soon
you
learn
something
and
you
turn
around
and
share
it.
And
and
it's
what
joy
had
said
about
a
platform
wow,
I
totally
digressed
them.
I
thought
my
initial
thought
was
what
joy
said
about
a
platform
is
one
way
of
articulating
what
layer
5
is
is
a
platform
for
shared
success.
A
There
are
many
people
that
come
and
go
through
here
and
many
people,
those
that
spend
any
amount
of
time,
whether
that's
a
week
and
certainly
the
longer
that
they
stay,
the
more
impacted
their
life
is
there's
many
people
who
have
their
stars
have
been
completely
changed.
Like
they're
they're
off
on
a
new
journey
in
life
and
and
they've,
both
given
and
taken
as
they've
in
their
time
here,
there's
many
who've,
there's
many
who've
gotten
new
jobs
and
directly
because
of
the
work
that
they've
done
here
and
actually
a
lot
like.
A
A
They're,
not
like
they're,
not
recognizing
what
they
recognize
is
they're
in
that
new
role
or
they've
achieved
that
new
thing,
or
they
know
that
new
technology-
or
they
spoke
at
that
conference,
or
they
did
that
thing
because
because
of
the
platform
that's
here
and
the
venue
that
they
have
to
go
grab
it
like
there's
any
number
of
things
that
we
want
to
do
here,
and
the
answer
is
almost
perpetually.
Yes,
I
think
I
was
talking
to
aditya
recently.
A
A
That's
you
can't
argue
that,
like
it's
just
a
better
framework,
there's
reasons
why
we're
still
using
jekyll
and
and
the
answer
is
kind
of-
if
you
can
do
it,
let's
do
it
and
that's
just
a
general
statement
and
so
yeah
what
a
great
way
to
what
a
a
risk-free
way
for
most
people
to
gain
experience
to
build
some
new
relationships
to
meet
others
in
the
industry
that
they
otherwise
wouldn't.
There's
a
for
my
part-
and
I
know
for
many
of
you
there's
a
long.
A
Each
of
you
have
your
own
rolodexes
of
relationships
of
people
that
you
know
and
mine
is
always
open
to
those
that
want
to
be
introduced
to
someone
there's
just
a
lot,
there's
a
lot
to
be
gained.
So
I
encourage
people
to
give
and
take
at
the
same
time,.
A
I
am
the
payless
of
any
of
you
and
you
know
what
I'm
the
only
other
than
vijay
who's
living
in
the
us
like
anyway,
my
point
of
calling
out
the
diversity
on
the
call
is
like
I
guess
everybody
else
is
doing
it
wrong.
I
don't
know
it's
not
like
it's
that
hard
to
be
embraced.
How
they're
saying
anyway
it
it
pleases
me
no
end
that
that
we
do
that
we're
able
to
engage
with
programs
like
chico
africa.
It's
really
neat
some
of
you
guys,
some
of
you
gals
frankly
surprised
me.
A
I
just
like
wow,
I
was
gonna,
go
review,
a
pr
pr
and
I
thought
well
geez.
This
is
here
kind
of
fast
faster
than
I
expected,
and-
and
I
go
look
at
it
thinking.
Well,
you
know-
that's,
probably
probably
because
something
was
missed.
It
turns
out.
No,
it
wasn't
as
a
matter
of
fact
it
was
delivered
rather
well,
and-
and
I
don't
I
don't
say
that
well,
I
just
have
low
expectations
of
p
of
those
that
might
come
and
participate
for
a
while.
A
That's
not
the
that's,
not
what
I'm
saying
what
I'm
saying
is
like
that.
It's
just
it's
such
a
treat
to
have
to
have
people
come
and
engage
so.
A
Anyway,
next
next
topic
over
to
you
and
wendy.
E
You
I
was
hoping
for
a
big
reveal,
but
I
guess
yeah
so
hussaina
is
our
new
maintainer
for
measuring
ctl
and
she
just
joined
the
call
and
she
has
been
contributing
to
my
shari
and
the
other
layer,
five
projects
for
quite
a
while
now
and
she
has
been
really
sharing
her
knowledge
and
already
he's
already
won
a
major
role
so
yeah.
I
guess
I
will
let
you
take
it.
A
There's
something
that
I'm
not
sure
if
everyone
recognizes,
I
think,
maybe
even
for
many
of
you.
If
you
were
to
ask
yourself
this
question,
it
will
okay.
Well,
I
I
get
that,
like
that
there
there
are
kind
of
these
different
hats,
that
people
can
wear
different
roles,
that
people
take
on
there's
and
you
know,
and
what
all
of
those
are,
I
think
I'm
pretty
darn
sure
all
of
you
would
say.
A
Well,
I'm
not
really
sure
I
can
call
out
a
couple,
but
that
is
something
that
we
actually
do
need
and
it's
a
great
example
of
why
we
need
a
contributor
handbook.
A
I'm
sorry,
a
community
handbook
is
to
show
the
contributor
ladder,
like
the
latter,
isn't
about
hierarchy
of
like
climbing
it
and
telling
other
people
what
to
do.
It's
more
like
it's
more
like
an
inverted
ladder
where
you
sort
of
climb
down
it
and
you
become
more
responsible
and
more
of
a
servant
leader
so
anyway,
being
a
maintainer
is
means
a
couple
of
things,
one
like
some
ongoing
responsibility
to
review
things
from
others
to
provide
guidance
to
be
a
good
steward
of
the
projects
at
its
core.
A
Hussein
is
a
someone
who
well
someone
that
I
trust
is
someone
that
will
get
on
calls
with
users
when
they're
having
problems
to
help
troubleshoot
it
she'll
represent
the
project
in
the
best
of
ways
she
brings
more
to
the
table
than
I
think
that
she
will
politely
recognize
and
some
of
that
she
just
like
it's
kind
of
hard
to
even
call
out.
Specifically
it's
just
she's
got
a
fair
bit.
A
She's
well-rounded
got
a
fair
bit
of
experience
that
there's
so
many
things
as
all
of
us
journey
through
software
that
so
many
of
the
paradigms
are
repeated
and
repeated
like
it's
the
same
system,
it's
the
same
problem.
It's
like
it
is
a
different
piece
of
tech,
but
it's
like
the
same
paradigm
again
and
again
and
as
you
go
along,
you
get
cuts
and
bruises
and
make
mistakes
and
things.
A
But
as
you
learn
as
you
learn
and
learn
from
those
scars,
you
end
up
designing
much
better
software.
You
also
learn
how
to
engage
with
people
better,
hopefully
that
also
by
the
way,
is
part
of
the
secret
of
of
something
like
open
source
is
psychology
and
not
being
a
douche.
A
Wouldn't
fit
well
here,
but
that's
part
of
why
the
community
works
well,
so
anyway,
can't
believe
I'm
talking
about
I'm
saying
those
words
when
we're
talking
about
husseina
and
bringing
up
her
maintainership,
but
hussain,
I'm
really
tickled.
It's
pretty.
A
I
can't
wait
for
more
of
you
to
achieve
that
role
and
actually
for
husseina
to
kind
of
accelerate
through
this
curve,
so
to
speak,
because
there's
no
way
there's
such
a
as
a
matter
of
fact.
It's
one
of
the
things
I
was
going
to
talk
about
today
is
the
roadmap
and
chat
with
you
all
about
it.
Have
you
think
about
it?
A
Have
you
suggest
things
have
you
reflect
on
it
and
there
is
no
way
that
we
will
achieve
like
one-tenth
of
the
things
that
are
listed
there
if
folks,
like
husseina,
don't
feel
like
and
don't
not
just
feel
like,
but
don't
literally
aren't
empowered
with
a
sense
of
ownership
and
are
empowered
to
carry
things
forward
and
be
opinionated
and
you
know,
move
and
go
and
make
decisions
I'm.
A
So
I'm
hopeful
that
there
are
many
more
of
you
carrying
that
title
at
some
point
and
by
the
way
it's
not
me,
I
didn't
I
didn't
even
nominate
hussaina,
because
I
because
I
don't
particularly
like
hussein.
No,
I
I
didn't
nominate
husana.
I
certainly
talk
about
her
behind
her
back
more
than
she
knows,
and
that's
because
that's
because
I
do
like
her.
I
do
think
that
she's
well
intended
and
like
I
said
it's
like
number
one
thing
for
me
is
is
trust.
A
I
could
just
trust
that
she's
gonna
try
to
do
the
best
for
the
project
and
she,
just
like
me,
is
gonna,
make
mistakes
as
she
makes
decisions
and
yeah.
We
all
do,
but
but
then
it's
not
me
that
makes
a
decision
about
whether
or
not
you
know
hussain
becomes
a
maintainer.
It
was
a
unanimous
decision
amongst
the
existing
maintainers
and
not
only
was
it
unanimous
but
but
but
it
was
kind
of
an
exciting
thread,
and
so
so
that's
cool.
That's
good.
E
The
open
summit
yeah
so
yeah
linux
linux
foundation
is
hosting
open
source
summit
which
is
scheduled
to
I
I
I
didn't.
I
don't
remember
the
date
but
yeah
they
have.
They
have
a
suggested
topic
which
includes
service
measures
so
essentially
what
we
do
at
life.
So
they
are
inviting
proposals
to
talk
for
talks
and
yeah.
It
would
be
a
nice
place
for
us
to
represent
layer,
fi
and
the
work
we
do
here.
A
Yeah
they
also
there's
also
a
number
of
other
topics
or,
like
I
mean
there's
just
actually
it's
sort
of
all
of
the
things
like
hey.
We,
this
community,
doesn't
get
into
all
of
the
hardware-centric
things
that
are
listed.
There
is
a
lot
with
respect
to
well,
actually,
all
of
the
things
that
we
do,
there's
there's
things
to
talk
about,
it's
funny
that
they
put
service
mesh
and
observability
it
very
much.
So
does
that
and
it
does
a
lot
more.
A
The
talk,
and
let
me
know
if
I
can
help
the
part
of
the
reason
we
were
highlighting.
This
particular
summit
is
because
I
believe
this
will
be
held
in
person.
I
don't
know
if
it
says.
D
Yeah
yeah,
I
think
so
too.
I
think
I'm
I'm
submitting
the
proposal,
but
then
it's
not
going
to
be
around
service
meshes
though,
but
I'm
still
trying
to
think
around
that
but
yeah
I
I
heard
this
was
it's
going
to
be
in
person
yeah
before
now.
I
I
think
it
was
dublin
or
I
think
we
changed
it
to
seattle.
A
Yeah,
that's
it's
exciting!
That's
it's
been
so
long
since
there
was
an
in
person
all
right.
A
Cool
a
good,
quick
question
for
all
of
you
that
joined
the
monday
meetings,
the
ones
that
the
websites
call
for
my
part
I
end
up.
I
have
a
the
cncf
technical
oversight
committee.
There
there's
a
private
meeting
that
they've
set
up
with
me
routinely
like
overlapping
by
30
minutes.
So
I'm
wondering
if
if
we
move
it
to
the
third
to
start
30
minutes
earlier,
does
that
cause
anyone
heartburn
and
if
so,
should
we
can?
A
We
move
it
somewhere
else
or
or
we
can
leave
it
in
place
and
someone
else
can
someone
else
can
lead
that
last
30
minutes.
As
a
matter
of
fact,
I
shouldn't
be
leading
the
call
in
in
the
first
place
or
not,
I
shouldn't
say
shouldn't,
but
I
don't
desire
to
leave
the
call.
A
A
Oh
elizabeth
did
I
put
did,
did
you
put
that,
or
did
I
surprise
you
with
that?
I
think
I
might
have
so
so
I
volunteered
you
to
talk
about
some
of
the
work
that
you've
been
doing
and
elizabeth.
I
figured
the
the
web
form
that
you've
been
working
through
on
layer.
Five
io.
B
A
So
for
context,
as
that
is
many
of
you
have
filled
in
have
filled
in
a
google
doc
as
you've
become
members
of
the
community,
and
and
we
get
to
to
know
you
and
we
had
intentionally
had
that
process
as
a
google
doc
for
a
long
time,
because
it
felt
like
philly
and
yeah
filling
in
sorry
drew
bill
made
me.
Chuckle
filling
in
a
google
form
feels
a
little
impersonal,
not
quite
as
high
touch,
not
quite
as
like.
A
I
I
can
you
know,
I
would
sense
that
people
would
might
feel
awkward
filling
in
some
of
their
personal
info
into
a
form
and,
and
so
even
though
it
took
a
lot
longer
for
us
to
work
with
google
docs
and
it's
kind
of
a
pain
not
to
have
everyone's
name
into
a
spreadsheet,
so
that
we
can
better
plan
for
different
activities
and
who
who's
interested.
A
In
what
things
like
at
this
point,
the
community
has
just
grown
big
enough
and
there's
enough
of
you
that,
like
it
has
to
go
to
a
forum,
and
so
fortunately
vinayak
and
elizabeth
and
a
few
others
have
and
austin
have
well
worked
on.
Moving
us
out
of
a
google
form
and
into
something
that's
quite
nice,
so.
B
All
right,
so
here's
the
form
currently
what's
is
actually
left
is
moving
it
to
the
back
end.
Can
anyone
hear
me
yeah
all
right
all
right,
so
I
think
I'll
just
be
filling
this
in
for
a
demo.
F
B
So
yeah
we
have
all
of
this
from
and
then
so.
The
next
step
was
well
like
quite
took
like
quite
some
time
because
like
trying
to
contemplate
on
like
some
things,
I
know,
but
we've
been
able
to
achieve
this
so
depending
on
who
the
user
is.
B
We
have
like
a
question
for
you
to
feel
so.
This
is
for
developers
and
like
this
is
for
users
yeah.
So
we
have
this
for
users
and
for
standbys.
B
I
think
there
are
still
some
changes
that
needs
to
be
done,
like
the
font
sizes
and,
like
some
other
things,
but
aside
that
this
is
what
we
currently
have
and
the
main
important
thing
just
like
on
the
google
form
is
the
username
the
email
address.
I
mean
their
names
and
the
email
address
and
then,
after
the
field
form,
we
take
them
to
the
community
handbook
or
a
documentation
like
the
docs
yeah.
So
that's
basically
what
we
have
now.
B
I
don't
know
how
to
move
it
to
the
back
end.
So
I
think.
B
A
A
And
this
is
a
little
bit
of
a
different
scenario
than
well,
maybe
than
some
of
you
have
experienced
in
the
past,
or
it's
a
little
bit
slightly
different
than
what
I've
worked
with
in
the
past
and
and
that's
because
this
site
itself
it's
static.
A
It's
not
database
driven
like
you
might
run
a
wordpress
blog
or
something
and
that's
that's
built
built
on
the
lamp
stack.
So
it
runs
mysql
as
a
database
and
you
store
your
posts
and
who
authored
it
and
all
that
those
things
and
you
retrieve
it
you
every
time
a
page
comes
up.
There's
a
database
call
and
it
retrieves
that
info
and
shows
it.
So
it's
somewhat
it's.
You
know
dynamically
driven
by
a
database
in
that
sense,
in
this
case
this
site,
it's
pre-compiled
well
compiled
lots.
A
A
I
When
you
look
at
that
source,
when
you
click
on
settings
and
source,
what
do
you
see?
Does
it
have
html
so
so
the
question
is
it
has
to
be
something
right,
so
if
it
is
not
html,
is
it
an
image
on
an
html
page?
I
So
if
you
have
a
button,
so
you're
posting
or
something
to
a
particular
url
and
whatever
it
is
that
you're
posting
to
will
have
to
process
that
particular
request-
and
you
know
what
you
pass
in
the
url
or
in
the
body
would
go
to
the
site.
I
mean
that's
generally
how
websites
work
right,
but
I'm
curious
if
it
is
compiled,
what
is
it
compiling
to
and
what
is
it
comparing
from.
A
And
vijay
that
that's
right,
the
yeah
right,
so
the
site
itself
is
html
and
css
and
javascript
and,
like
those
are
the
artifacts
that
come
out
of
the
the
build
out
of
the
npm.
Build
of
this
gatsby-based
react,
javascript,
react-based
system
or
or
site,
and
so
yeah.
When
you
click
post
or
I'm
sorry,
when
you
click
submit,
there's
a
you
know:
http
post,
that's
as
part
of
the
action
here
actually
elizabeth,
if
you
right-click
on
the
screen
and
try
to
inspect
for
a
moment
anyway.
A
In
this
particular
case,
there's
a
number
of
different
services
out
there
sas
offerings
that
can
help
facilitate
the
new
rece
like
that
you
can
post
to
normally
the
or
not
normally,
but
historically,
the
way
that
this
would
have
worked
is
you'd,
be
running
a
web
server
and
that
server
is
actively
listening
and
processing
any
incoming
requests
any
incoming
posts.
A
You
know
that
have
the
contents
of
all
the
the
entries
that
that
person
filled
into
the
form
in
this
case
since
we're
just
hosting
this
off
of
github
pages,
there's
a
different
that
we
we're
using
an
external
service.
Somebody
someone
else's
web
server,
we're
posting
that
content
there
and
and
there's
there's.
A
Use
to
do
that,
I
mean
in
particular
one
of
the
ones
that
we're
using
it
will
it'll
receive
in
this
case.
Some
people
might
refer
to
that
as
a
web
hook,
like
sort
of
a
fancy
way
of
saying
just
the
same
thing
that
you're
posting
somewhere
and
you
know
the
the
service
that
we're
using
it's
called
integromat
and
it's
not
super
special.
A
It's
just
it's
just
free
or
part
of
it's
free
and
so
it'll
receive
the
form
data
parse
through
the
json
and
in
turn
we
tell
it
to
populate
a
spreadsheet,
basically
actually
the
same
thing
that
would
have
been
done
with
a
google
form,
because
on
a
google
form
you
can
you
know
when
you
click
submit,
you
can,
if
you
can
tell
the
form,
to
populate
a
spreadsheet
and
and
that
automation,
it
doesn't
just
populate
a
spreadsheet
and
now
it
it
helps
out
the
community
managers
that
are
here.
It
helps
process
a
few.
A
It
helps
give
the
new
user,
the
new
community
member
access
to
some
of
the
community
like
to
the
community,
drive
to
the
mailing
list,
those
types
of
things
and
so
yeah,
there's
anyway,
that's
a
really
long
answer
to
the
short
answer
is
just
it
posts
to
a
third-party
service
that
has
been
configured
to
do.
A
Some
automation
do
a
little
bit
of
workflow,
also
like
it
sends
a
slack
message
to
let
people
know
to
let
some
of
the
community
managers
know
someone
who
has
filled
it
in
and
maybe
you
should
review
and
see
what
they're
interested
in
and
engage
with
them,
and
so.
A
A
Bitcoin
miners,
so
they
get
the
free
tier,
the
free
tiers
and
they
run
workload.
They
run
bitcoin
mining.
A
So,
but
just
reading
through
some
of
the
chat
and
so
right,
yeah
one
of
the
yeah,
like
one
of
the
things
is
hey
github
get.
Google
sheets
has
an
api.
You
can
post
to
a
google
sheet.
You
can
just
take
this
info
directly
and
post
it
to
a
google
sheet
that
technically
that
works.
A
One
of
the
challenges,
though,
is
well
when
you
try
to
authenticate
to
google
to
google's
api
to
interact
with
a
google
sheet.
It's
like
well,
you
need
to
have
a
credential,
and
so,
where
is
that
credential
being
stored?
Well,
it's
really
kind
of
just
one
place
to
store
like
like
you
can
obfuscate,
where
you're
gonna
store
it
and
have
it,
try
to
be
confusing
and
where
you're
gonna.
Keep
that
token
and
things,
but
really
there's
like
no
way
to
secure
that
client
side
and.
A
A
I
don't,
I
don't
know
of
other
communities
that
have
it
like
this,
so
we're
just
going
to
spoil
everyone
that
comes
through
and
they're,
not
gonna,
they're,
not
gonna.
A
A
A
D
Sure
so
my
tabs
are
quite
messy.
Could
you
share
oh.
G
D
D
There
we
go
okay,
so
so,
some
time
ago,
like
four
weeks
back,
we
had
the
idea
of
you
know,
making
a
community
handbook
with
basically
all
the
resources
and
most
of
the
resources.
You
know
that
a
newcomer
would
be
helpful
to
both
a
newcomer
coming
into
the
community
and
to
a
community
member
looking
for
a
particular
doc.
So
before
now
we
had
like
all
the
different
documentation
like
separately.
For
let's
say
the
repository
overview
was
separate.
The
community
welcome
guide
was
also
separate
and
the
newcomer.
D
So
you
know
there
was
this
difficulty
of
navigating
through
all,
and
I
think
lee
has
not
officially
announced
we
have
a.
We
have
an
amazing
vote
now,
yeah
I'll,
do
it
for
you
to
see
that
so.
A
Go
ahead,
yeah,
oh,
you
mean,
like
the
big
block
message.
D
Yeah,
the
beautiful
text
yeah,
so
so
so
this
the
purpose
of
this
handbook
was,
you
know,
to
provide
those
resources
in
one.
So
it's
like
okay,
you
have
to
come
into
handbook
and
all
the
apcs
of
like
their
five
community
is
in
the
handbook
and
before
the
dementias
from
chico
africa
came
in,
we
had
started,
but
it
was
really
rough.
It
was
just
it
was
empty.
D
Basically,
we
just
was
just
a
rough
document
and
in
four
weeks,
abiola
and
nissan
and
good
news-
have
done
like
very
good
work
with
this,
and
you
know
they
populated
this
dock
with
a
whole
lot
of
resources
from
the
new
command
guide
to
the
community
guide
to
the
repository
overview.
D
You
know
a
whole
lot
of
even
resources
as
far
as
mentorship
programs,
different
mentorship
programs
that
you
know
that
go
on
in
their
five
community.
Some
still
some
context
about
that.
You
know
they've
done
an
amazing
job.
I
knew
I
I
think
I
was
you
know
going
through
this
yesterday
I
was
trying
to
fixing
typo
errors,
and
I
I
was
really
happy
trust
me.
You
know,
having
you
know,
seen
a
project
that
you
know
was
at
the
scratch
four
weeks
ago.
You
know
come
back
to
turn
into
a
full.
D
I
think
we
are.
We
are
95
on
this.
We
are
still
trying
to
make
some
formats,
and
at
least
you're
trying
to
you
know,
put
in
a
little
context,
but
they
have
been
amazing
and
the
mentos
thanks,
dementors,
anita
and
myself
to
we
have
been
trying
to
review
and
we
are
getting
this
up
right
so
very
soon.
We
just,
I
think
we
are
thinking
on
how
to
you
know,
present
this
better,
because
I
think
the
google
doc
it's
always
going
to
keep
scattering
at
the
point
right.
D
A
D
A
And
yeah
to
your
point
like
having
a
single
reference,
is
a
really
like,
especially
a
memorable
url,
that
all
of
you
can
hand
it
to
whomever
is
asking
about
those
darn
git
commit
sign-offs
or
or
whatever
you
know
the
commonplace
things
that
people
ask
about
like
in
actually
consolidating.
It
means
that
we
repeat
ourselves
less.
We
probably
have
better
content
in
here,
because
more
people
review
it
more
people
read
through.
A
D
Yeah,
so
I
think
the
good
news
you
could
drop
your
challenges
on
watching
with
this,
because
I
need
a
way
a
lot.
If
you
don't
see
it,
I'm
going
to.
D
Okay,
so
actually
one
of
the
challenge
was,
you
know,
the
setting
of
the
contributing
guideline
was
tough
right,
because
first,
some
of
the
projects
are
not.
We
are
not
familiar
with
like
the
measured
project.
Right
so,
and
you
know
writing
a
contributing
guideline
for
something
that
is
not
your
stuff
is
quite
pretty
hard.
So
I
I
know
there
are
points
where
we're
confused,
on
which
you
know
which,
step
to
you
know,
push
push
out
or
which
step
was
unnecessary
right.
So
there
were
some
confusions
around.
D
You
know
the
contributing
guideline
information
project
and
setting
up
setting
up
your
dev
environment
right
because
we're
trying
to
remove
like
avoid
redundancy,
I
keep
repeating
stuff.
So
it
was
really
hard
to
you
know,
get
what
what
are
we
going
to
take
off
because
yeah?
So
that's
like
something
that
was
really
hard.
A
Yeah
some
of
the
things
that
will
be
reference.
A
lot
is
actually
we
just
had
a
contributor
come
by
a
day
or
two
ago
they
wanted
to
help
fix.
You
know
it
was
a
relatively
simple
and
straightforward
issue,
but
it
was
you
needed
to
run
jekyll
on
the
dock
side.
I
think
to
fix
it
and
they
were
running
windows
and
they're
like
oh,
no.
A
And
so
having
the
written
instructions
readily
available
is
I
mean
some
of
what
I
would
encourage
all
of
you
that
do
that
have
put
this
together
or
that
think
through?
This
is
well
some
of
the
things
that'll
happen
in
github,
for
example,
if
someone
creates
a
new
issue
or
they
get
a
pr
merged,
there's
a
bot
that
will
come
by
and
say
something
and
maybe
what
it's
saying
needs
to
be
updated
or
or
maybe
there
should
be
like
here's,
a
link
to
how
to
run
jekyll
on.
A
Windows
but
yeah
what
a
what
a
nice
piece
of
work-
I
guess
I
think
ruth
so
I
know
ruth
and
anita
and
the
other
mentors
and
myself
are
hopeful
that
that
you'll
be
able
that
all
of
you
will
continue
to
hang
out
and
take
some
of
this
forward.
Part
of
I
think,
ruth's
goal
ruth,
is
part
of
the
thinking
here
that
that
this
might
be
that
this
might
eventually
go
on
to
under
the
layer.
Five
io
slash
community
section
as
a
possibility.
D
Yeah
we're
trying
to
think
of
yeah
we're
trying
to
think
of
putting
it
there,
so
we
get
like,
like
you
said
you
mentioned
something
about
just
the
url
that
you
know
has.
Has
that
section
right,
so
we're
trying
to
see
if,
but
my
question
around
that
would
be.
Will
you
not
be
an
overload
on
the
side
to
have
all
this
information
there.
A
Care
needs
to
be
taken
to
make
sure
that,
like
like
there's
a
the
answer
is
no,
if
you
do
it
right
or
I
mean,
if
you
take
time
so,
the
the
the
thing
about
putting
onto
a
different
sub
domain
means
like.
Oh
you
just
you
end
up
with
fragmentation
again,
like
part
of
the
point
here,
was
to
defragment
things
and
bring
together
into
a
singular
place
like
here's,
the
reference
and
you
could
do
and
I'm
not
saying
that
you've
suggested
this
necessarily
but
putting
some
words
into
your
mouth.
A
Yeah,
so
we
strive
yeah,
we
strive
not
to
do
that
thing.
That
kind
of
a
thing,
though,
we
strive
to
do.
A
A
The
original
thinking
was
that
it
would
be
a
sub
domain
because
it
would
be
a
bunch
of
content
to
navigate
through
and
it
needed
something
and
that's
reasonable,
but
the
other
contributors
were
just
showing
how
we
can
keep
it
within
the
same
domain,
which
is
advantageous
because
then
people
they
get
a
really
high
class
experience
because
they're
in
the
same
site,
you
just
have
to
have
care
taken.
D
Okay,
so
I
I
think
that
that
works,
so
I
just
want
to
be
sure
it
wasn't
done
over
so
that
works
so
would
start
making
plans
to
you
know,
move
this
to
the
inside.
It's
going
to
look
very
beautiful
because
I
think
on
the
dock.
It's
it
rearranges
a
lot.
A
Road
map
review,
but
that's
like
well.
Actually
I
get,
I
was
gonna
say
it's
a
good
topic
for
this
coming
wednesday.
Next
week
is
kubecon
and
so
there
might.
I
don't
think
that
we're
canceling
any
of
these
meetings.
I
don't
think
that
there's
an
overlap
but
we'll
be
sure
to
notify.
If
so,
so,
if
I
can
I'll
try
to
send
out
the
there
is
a
roadmap
for
mesherie
in
the
community
drive
today.
D
We
had
yeah,
we
had
so
many
announcements
like
beautiful
announcements,
and
I
just
wanted
to
ask:
is
you
see
not
the
first
maintainer
that
is
a
female
she?
I.
A
I
don't
want
to
say
that
she
is
because
I'd
rather
that
she,
but
like
technically.
A
Like
technically
harshini
like
the
thing
is,
is
this
is
no
blight
on
hershey,
but
she
did
like.
I
don't
know,
150,
that's
the
amount
of
work
that
hussein
has
done
and
I'm
not
exaggerating
and
so
who's,
but
harshini,
who
is
a
maintainer
for
the
one
of
the
adapters,
the
messaging
adapter
for
network
service
mesh
and
so
yeah.
It's
kind
of
it's
not
a
it's,
not
a
fair.