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Layer5 Community Meeting (June 25th, 2021)
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A
Hi
guys,
so
if
you
are
joining
in
right
now,
please
add
your
name
to
the
midi
minutes,
it's
in
the
chat
and
we
will
get
started
so
welcome
everyone.
This
is
the
player
5
community
meeting
today
is
june
25th
and
we
are
three
after
and
we
have
11
people
on
the
call.
So
let's
get
started
so.
A
We
had
a
couple
of
newcomers
join
us
this
week,
so
at
layer
5
we
have
a
tradition
to
introduce
yourself
when
you,
when
you
are
when,
when
it
is
your
first
time
on
the
call,
so
I
see
ayushman
ice
man
mishra.
Do
you
want
to
introduce.
B
Yourself,
hello,
everyone.
I
am
aishwar
mushra
and
I
am
new
to
this
cloud
native
and
kubernetes
environment.
I'm
just
checking
I'm
just
here
to
discover
some
community
and
involve
this
in
this
community
actually
learn
something.
C
Welcome
yeah,
you
are
okay,
thanks
yeah
and
anushaman
ayushman.
Were
you
on
another
call
a
little
while
ago,
or
am
I
thinking
of
a
kill?
I
think
you
might.
B
Name
no,
this
is
my
first
call.
Actually
I
I
think
I
just
joined
yesterday
a
newcomers
call
for
just
few
minutes.
Then
I
couldn't
just
hold
there.
So
this
is
my
first
call
for
this
mystery
meetings.
C
Oh
cool
nice,
very
good,
I
you
know
what
it
is
actually
vendo.
If
you
scroll
down
to
the
last
week's
meeting
minutes,
there
was
anum
whose
name
was
in
all
capitals
as
well,
and
so
I
just
remember,
remember
people
who
yelled
their
names
at
us
and
so.
C
Anyway,
very
nice
to
have
you
thanks
for
jumping
in
it's?
How
did
yesterday's
newcomers
call
go
any.
B
I
was
actually
just
few
minutes.
I
was
there,
it
was
like
I
like
five
minutes
actually,
so
I
couldn't
get
the
hold
of
it,
what
they
were
actually
talking
about,
and
actually
I'm
new
to
this
kubernetes
and
docker
environment,
and
just
you
know,
I
I've
just
started,
learning
go
and
some
javascript
actually
and
I
want
to
just
contribute
to
the
cncf
organizations.
C
I
think
a
lot
of
people
want
to
chime
in,
like
you
are
in
the
right
place:
good
yeah,
there's
a
ton
of
other
folks
learning
right
aside
right
alongside
you,
including
me,
and
so
thanks
for
coming
good
nice
to
nice
to
meet
you.
A
Thank
you.
So
we
looking
through
the
list-
and
I
see
ben
ben
vasunga-
is
this
your
first
time
on
this
call?
Would
you
like
to
introduce
yourself.
A
Nice
would
you
like
to
introduce
yourself.
E
C
Well,
we'll
have
to
see
if,
if
we
uphold
to
that,
but
ben,
are
you
whereabouts?
Are
you
calling
in
from.
C
Nice
good
perfect,
so
many
so
many
nigerians
running
around
here,
like
it's,
it's
just
it's
nice
to
have
get
some
other
representation,
so
good,
good
yeah.
I
think
anita
might
slap
me
later
for
saying
that
so
well,
but
yeah
ben
welcome
man
nice
to
by
the
way
ben.
Did
you
say
that
you
you
I
I
missed
what
you'd
said.
You'd
said
that
you'd
been,
I
thought
you
said
kitchen,
but
I
misheard
what
you
said:
oh
yeah
yeah,
very
good,
good,
good,
good,
good
yeah,
thanks
for
coming
man
good
to
meet.
A
Thank
you,
ben
the
rest
of
the
names
are
old.
People
like
they
have
been
here
a
lot
long
time
ago.
So
if
there
is
anyone
in
this
call
who
is
in
for
the
first
time,
then
feel
free
to
introduce
yourself.
F
Hi
everybody
I'm
joseph
madura-
I
usually
go
by
joe,
so
you
might
see
both
names
in
the
chat.
I've
been
at
one
of
the
newcomers
meetings
before,
but
this
is
my
first
layer
5
community
meeting
I've
used
docker
a
little
bit
in
the
past,
but
I'm
still
new
to
the
service
mesh
environment
and
I'm
looking
forward
to
learning
more
about
it
as
I
participate
with
the
community
more
so
I'm
happy
to
be
here
thanks
for
having
me.
C
Awesome,
that's
awesome,
joe
there's
a
there's,
a
short
there's,
a
short
report,
short
book
that
is
intended
to
be
an
introduction
to
what
the
heck
service
meshes
are
I'll.
Send
you
I'll
send
you
a
link
I'll
post
it
in
the
chat?
Actually
it
might
benefit
others
as
well.
It's
it's
a
short
read.
So,
hopefully
it'll
help.
G
A
Nice,
thank
you.
Thank
you
joe.
A
So
we
have
a
couple
of
announcements
so,
as
you
might
have
seen,
layer
5
participates
in
some
open
source
programs
like
google
summer
of
code
community
bridge
and
recently
we
participated
in
chico
africa.
So
we
are
all
about
open
source
communities
and
bringing
more
people
into
open
source.
So
this
summer
we
have
three
new
interns,
piyush
soham
andrew
you
might
have
worked
with
them
before
or
you
might
have
seen
their
works
in
the
past.
A
So
if
you
like
to
learn
more
about
them
and
their
journey
to
being
an
intern
at
life,
then
there
is
a
blog
post
that
is
written
by
the
three
of
them
and
yeah
lee.
Would
you
like
to
add
something.
C
I'm
just
I'm
stoked
to
these
that
the
three
of
these
fine
young
gentlemen
are
here
making
an
impact
each
of
them.
C
You
know
you
know,
I
don't
know,
I
it
go
quickly,
two
things
to
note,
there's
a
lot
of
folks
that
come
by
and
inquire
about
internships,
it's
in
part,
because
because
our
reputation
precedes
us
for
a
taking
internship
seriously
and
b
doing
a
bit
of
what
ben
does
professionally,
which
is
like
trying
to
teach
or
trying
to
share
what
we
know
and
in
the
process
learn
a
bunch
by
it
through
teaching
the
page
that
novendo
is
on
right
now
is
a
good
reference.
C
There's
an
faq
section
at
the
bottom
that
talks
about
how
to
land
an
internship
with
layer
5
what
to
do,
and,
though
yeah.
So
that's
that's
one
thing.
The
other
thing
is
if
you're
curious
about
like
what
the
experience
is
like.
There
are
three
individuals
that
are
interning
right
now
to
go
asked,
and
most
of
them
are
on
the
call
now.
C
The
other
thing
I
would
say
is
that
the
linux
foundation,
you
know,
is
a
large
organization;
it
it
has
the
cncf.
It
has
a
bunch
of
other
sub
organizations
and,
as
such
they
run
an
internship
program
and
it
so
happens
that
measury,
you
know,
one
of
one
of
our
our
biggest
project
is
the
number
one
sought-after
internship
through
the
linux
foundation.
So
that's
pretty
awesome
and
that's
in
part.
Why
and
that
just
sort
of
begets
more
interest.
I
think
so
so
anyway,
there's
more
internship
slots
than
well.
No,
I
say
this.
C
The
more
maintainers
that
come
through
and
are
capable
of
mentoring,
others,
the
more
internships
we
have
going
on
simultaneously.
So,
if
you're
someone
like
michael
gefeller
who's,
you
know
sitting
there
wondering
if
maybe
he
should
be.
You
know
mentoring,
someone
like
yeah
the
answers.
C
You
know.
I
would
suggest
that.
Maybe
it's
yes,
and
so
anyway,
these
three
folks
that
have
come
through
one
of
the
geez.
I
can't
remember
one
of
them
through
google,
summer
code
or
two
of
them
through
google
summer
of
code,
one
of
them
through
lfx,
so
cool,
I'm
excited
about
what
you
guys
are
working
on
super
excited
about
where
you're,
what
you're
working
on
cool
kudos
it's
going
to
be
a
long
summer.
I
tell
you
that.
A
Thank
you,
thank
you
so,
and
another
big
announcement
is
two
of
our
projects.
Measuring
and
service
mesh
performance
are
in
the
cncf
sandbox,
so
this
was
except
we
were
accepted
this
week,
so
most
of
you
will
be
working
on
this
project,
so
so
what
this
means
is
that
these
projects
will
get
more
exposure
because
we
are
in
the
cnc
stan
sandbox
and
hopefully
hopefully
we
will.
We
will
be
able
to
get
get
this
project
like
let
let
more
people
know
about
this
projects.
Our
project
center
works.
A
A
So,
moving
on
moving
on,
let's
get
started
with
today's
topics.
Aditya,
do
you
want
to
talk
about
your
hackathon.
H
Sure
so,
hello,
everyone,
my
college,
is
as
a
part
of
my
college
and
tech
club
of
our
college,
we're
organizing
a
national
level
hackathon,
which
is
in
association
with
devfolio,
matic,
portis
and
all
so
it's
going
to
be
held
from
tomorrow.
It's
going
to
be
a
24
hours
hackathon
and
we
have
a
very
good
tracks,
and
one
of
the
main
sites
to
refer
is
our
event
website
itself.
H
You
guys
are
free
to
build
anything
whichever
you
want
and
there's
no
boundary
regarding
topics
or
anything
and
yeah,
as
you
can
see,
the
applications
close
in
another
three
hours
and
there
are
exciting
prices
and
I
hope
I'll
be
able
to
see
you
there
so
yeah.
Thank
you.
C
Adi
did
you
I
might
have
missed
it.
Did
you
talk
about
what
transpire
with
those
that
will
potentially
transpire
here
in
the
community,
for
those
that
might
participate.
H
Yeah,
along
with
that,
I
completely
forgot
about
that.
So
we
have
layer
5
itself
as
a
gold
sponsor.
So
what.
H
Yeah,
so
what
we
are
doing
is
the
top
participants
who
are
who
win
prizes
or
show
some
capable
projects
or
outstanding
projects.
They'll
be
offered
a
internship
in
layer,
5
and
they'll
be
working
for
a
specific
month
during
their
internship,
and
they
can
consider
this
as
their
university
benefit.
H
C
That's
yeah
yeah.
I
don't
know
about
you.
What
I
took
away
is
that
that's
a
fine
looking
logo
that
second
one
from
the
top
to
be
more
serious,
so
adi
has
been
in
the
community
for
quite
some
time.
As
a
matter
of
fact,
I
think
he's
being
nominated
to
be
a
mesh
mate
and
and
as
part
of
that
mesh
mate
focus,
he
is
layer.
C
Five
is
supporting
him
in
terms
of
what
he's
doing
what
he's
doing
by
helping
organize
and
judge
the
this,
this
national
level
hackathon,
it's
a
which
also
makes
a
good
opportunity
for
new
learners
to
come
and
participate
in
the
community
that
caters
to
new
learners
anyway,
and
so
likely.
What
adi's
going
to
be
doing
is
selecting
a
handful
of
participants
of
the
I
don't
know
how
to
say,
but
of
this
particular
hackathon
and
engaging
them
in
an
internship.
C
D
C
We
should
go,
we
should
go
share,
you
know,
do
some
social,
be
social
with
this?
That's
great.
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
adi.
Looking
forward
to
the
event,
we
have
a
call
for
participation,
so
one
of
our
projects,
measuri,
has
a
documentation
website
which
is
written
on
jekyll
and
we
need
to
for
in
preparation
for
the
next
release.
We
need
to
check,
go
through
the
docs
and
check
if
everything
is
working
as
it,
it
is
written
and
make
changes
there.
A
A
All
right,
so
what
I
wanted
to
talk
about
is
basically
the
we've
been
discussing
about
the
mesquite
terror
utilities
for
the
for
for
in
our
previous
meetings.
So
I'm
not
going
to
talk
about
that
again,
rather
I'll,
just
directly
jump
into
what
this
is
about.
Basically,
we've
introduced
a
contributing
or
a
contributor
documentation
for
anyone
who's
going
to
use
who
wants
to
start
using
the
mushkit
error.
A
The
documentation
can
be
found
inside
the
contributing
section,
and
this
is
basically
exist
of
how
to
maintain
the
error
after
it's
like.
Basically,
if,
if
any
repository
has
the
error
utility
going
on
inside
and
if
they
want
to
add
more
error,
utility
and
then
comp
error
codes
and
then
compile
them,
this
is
the
gist
of
it,
but
a
detailed
version
of
how
to
introduce
the
errors
and
how
to
create
a
error
object
to
use
is
is
mentioned
in
here
and
basically,
this
is
just
a
bit
like
feedback
on
this
particular
dog.
I
C
So
yeah
maybe
less
about
feedback
more
about
well,
I
guess
what
dhruv
and
you
are
going
to
get
into
with
respect
to.
How
can
people
take
those
instructions
and
take
action
on
them?.
J
Yeah
so
like
there
are
a
lot
of
logs
that
need
to
be
migrated
to
matchstick
locks
like
currently
meshi
server
is
not
using
it
and
we
need
to
switch
to
nishkit
blogs
over
there.
J
So
anyone
who
is
interested
or
would
like
to
help
you
would
like
a
lot
of
feel
free
to
impact
over
here
like
this,
could
be
a
very
good
first
issue
like
where
there
are
a
lot
of
handles,
which
in
which
we
need
to
switch
to
meshget
errors
and
move
from
bloggers
to
the
from
using
bloggers
to
show
the
info
to
use
the
handle
of
children.
J
So
I
just
made
this
quick
vr.
I
will
add
more
detail
to
it
so
that
it's
a
bit
friendly
but
basically
yeah,
for
if
you
want
to
get
started,
a
good
place
would
be
for
you
to
see
the
dogs
or
the
two
handlers
which
have
just
been
appeared
into
huge
mesh
kit.
Logs
are
grafana
handlers
and
parameters
angles.
You
can
check
them
out
to
see
how
it
works.
If
you
want
to
contribute
and
want
to
have
a
gist
of
it,
and
if
you
still
don't
get
it,
you
can
ping
me
or
audi
shake.
J
C
Cool,
so
the
question
is:
are:
are
there
any
well
aspiring
gophers
on
the
call,
those
that
are
somewhat
new
to
golang
or
some
that
are
quite
adept
at
golang,
but
looking
to
make
an
impact
on
mashri
anybody
on
the
call
meet
either
of
those
two
descriptions?
C
Yeah,
that's
a
good
yeah,
that's
hard
to
argue
against,
and
and
yet
to
just
give
more
kind
of
context
what's
happening
here
is
that
the
meshri
as
a
project
has
well
a
number
of
different
components.
C
I
I'm
not
really
sure
if
it's
somewhere
around
12
or
something
and
and
each
of
the
components
that
we
try
to
use
a
common
framework
for
generating
errors,
producing
errors
and
there's
been
an
effort
recently
to
uplevel
and
unify
and
provide
consistency
about
the
errors
that
are
produced,
assigning
each
one,
a
specific
like
referenceable
code,
uniquely
referenceable
code.
C
Can
someone
share
the
error?
Reference
guide,
error
code,
reference
guide
and
outside
of
just
a
unique
error
code
is
also
providing
a
dis,
a
short
description,
a
long
description,
a
probable
cause
for
like.
Why
did
this
thing
probably
happen
and
then
a
a
set
of
suggested
remediations
like?
What
should
you
do
to
fix
this
air
or
overcome
the
air
and
and
then
yeah?
If
whoever
is
sharing?
If
you
go
to
the
reference
guide,.
C
On
the
lower
left
hand
corner
there's
a
section
reference
references
for
reference,
all
the
way
down
the
way
there
we
go,
so
those
error
codes
will
be
automatically
public
like
from
the
golang
they'll,
be
automatically
published
here.
If
you
scroll
down
a
little
bit
and
you
can
see
that
some
codes
have
been
generated
and
there
isn't
a
lot
of
context
for
what
they
are
and
how
to
remediate
them.
But
here
this
one's
sort
of
been
manually
populated
such
that
this
is
this
mystery
ctl
client.
C
This
is
kind
of
what
people
would
be
able
to
comment
reference.
They
would
see,
and
some
of
you
may
have
even
seen
those
error
codes
before
people
can
then
look
those
up
real,
quick
and
figure
out.
You
know
what
to
do
now,
so
the
call
to
action
here
isn't
to
go
fill
in
like
what
the
issue
is
and
what
to
do
about
it,
because,
as
some
of
us
just
said
like
oh
hell,
I
don't
know
I'm
just
getting
comfortable
with
docker
much
less
kubernetes
much
less
service
meshes.
C
So
you
know,
that's
not
necessarily
the
ask
the
ask:
is
that
there's
a
lot
of
specifically
in
mesherie
server,
the
main
meshery
project,
many
of
the
most
of
the
time
that
it
is
calling
out
to
to
manifest
and
most
of
the
time
that's
logging
and
error?
C
It
is
not
doing
it
using
the
utility
that
will
produce
that
will
auto
document
the
codes
and
all
that
and
so
yeah,
so
the
instructions
that
abhishek
is
going
to
go,
update
and
clarify
is
what
I'm
saying
right
now
and
what
dhruv
is
like,
showing
as
an
example.
Right
now
is
hey
specifically.
This
is
the
old
line
like
what
this
is,
what
we
would
look
for
the
logarist.era
dot
rf
to
like
here's,
the
step
to
convert
that
to
the
new
error,
new
style
error
code.
It's
it's
basically
a
new
function,
so
it's
a
fairly.
C
Straightforward,
you
know
change
that
goes
through
like
there
there's
the
new
there's,
the
new
style
right
there
on
line
34.,
and
so
it
can
be
a
good
way
for
people
to
force
you
to
build
some
go.
You
know
to
like
get
into
goaling
a
little
bit
more
build
some
golang
see
that
your
changes
are
going.
Ultimately
you,
ultimately,
you
would
see
your
changes
populated
on
the
docks
as
well.
I
Maybe
so
maybe
another
quick
comment:
if
you
go
back
to
the
code
that
you
showed
a
minute
ago
now
you
see
on
line
26,
you
have
these
call
expressions
that
are
setting
errors,
that's
not
working
either.
So
you
have
to.
I
J
I
But
it's
it's
still
a
variable
and
the
utility
looks
at
the
variable
declarations
and.
I
I
I
I
Sorry
convert
them
into
functions
or,
like
you
can
update
the
measure
I
mean
you
should
I
have
to
check
whether
this
works,
but
I
think
it
doesn't
so
it
should
be
like,
but
it
would
be
interesting
actually
because
it's
it's
sort
of
like
using
the
error
variable
names
by
this
convention
to
connect
all
the
dots
and
update
them
correctly.
I
Where
is
it
it's
in
measuring
and
it's
aerostatic
boards
just
write
it
down.
I'm
sure
I
find.
A
Thanks
rudraksha,
do
you
want
to
like
talk
quickly
about
the
cicca
stuff,
with
this
record.
A
G
G
So
there
was
to
be
some
discussion
around
when
exactly
would
it
run
on
stable
releases
or
edge
releases
right
now,
it's
running
on
stable
releases.
It's
it's
not
integrated
into
measuring
ci.
Yet
so
yeah
will
this
run
on
stable
releases
and
we
have
to
think
about
what
would
happen
for
other
components.
C
So
rude
rocks
to.
I
think
that
the
story
is
there's.
There's
a
draft
workflow
there's
a
workflow
you've
written
that
is
to
be
merged
into
across
most
of
the
repos
to
run
the
error
code,
utility
that
will
auto
generate
error,
codes
and
auto
generate
documentation.
G
C
Gotcha
yep,
okay,
so
you
so
the
workflow
for
a
meshery
adapter,
for
example,
can
auto-generate
error
codes.
It
can
also
auto-generate
yaml
that
that
can
be
put
into
the
docs.
It's
just
that
the
docs
are
in
a
different
repo,
separate
from
the
adapter
no
problem.
We
can
have
workflow
that
will
push
to
the
other
repo.
J
C
G
C
Cool
good
all
right,
well,
hey
it's
great
to
see
v
missed
mesh
vijay
was
volunteering
to
do.
You
know
take
on
a
couple
of
swapping
out
of
errors,
error
functions
to
the
mesh
kit
errors.
That's
great!
Also,
there's
a
there's.
Some
chat
in
oh,
okay,
good
there's,
some
zoom
chat
happening,
and
I
think
most
of
you
are
seeing
it
so
good,
good,
fair
enough.
Vendi
back
to
you.
I
think.
K
Hello:
everyone,
okay,
so
recently,
we've
been
having
a
lot
of
questions
if
we
have
tutorials
regarding
service
management,
playing
and
other
topics
that
are
going
on
within
the
com,
the
community,
and
how
to
set
up
this,
how
to
set
up
on
your
own
local
computers,
how
to
get
started
in
the
community
and
very,
very
busy
questions
that
will
really
be
helpful
to
you
and
your
group.
So
we
decided
to
take
that
into
action
by
creating
tutorials
on
every
topic
that
you
requested,
or
the
major
topics
requested.
K
So
we
sent
out
a
survey
form.
I
think
we
dropped
it
last
week,
but
I
was
to
drop
it
in
the
chat.
So
we
sent
out
a
survey
form
and
got
feedback
which
we
are
going
to
work
on.
K
So
if
you,
if
you
feel
that
you
you
can
actually
take
on
a
tutorial
on
any
of
these
topics
and
successfully
put
it
together,
yeah
just
send
me
a
dm
in
the
slack
channel
and
then
we'll
schedule
a
talk,
we'll
schedule
the
tutorial
and
make
it
happen,
and
also,
if
you
have
a
tutorial
request
that
you
would
want
to
make
or
there's
something
you
want
to
learn
from
the
community.
So
bad.
But
you
don't
you've,
not
seen
a
resource
that
actually
answers
that
particular
question.
K
You
can
also
request
for
a
tutorial
by
fill
it
in
the
survey
form
or
just
dropping
it
in
the
link
below
yeah
and
then
we'll
get
to
it.
So
I
look
forward
to
seeing
your
requests
and
your
responses.
C
Awesome,
that's
awesome,
yeah.
We
really.
We
really
should
have
any
number
of
those
we
do
have
a
number
of
them
recorded,
but
not
not.
We
need
a
few
that
are
kind
of
concise,
maybe
maybe
not
given
by
me
since
I
like
being
concise,
seems
to
be
impossible
for
me
and
and
actually
be
ideal
if
they're
not
given
by
me.
C
That's
I
don't
that's
fine,
don't
do
any
coding
like
just
use
the
thing
and
go,
go,
explain
it
to
others,
and
some
of
that
is
like.
Has
anyone
run
a
performance
test
and
taking
a
look
at
the
statistical
analysis
that
comes
back
and
then
thought
how
nice
it
would
be
to
have
a
phd
like
michael,
does
to
understand
what
the
hell?
The
performance
chart
actually
meant
the
histogram.
That's
shown
it's
like.
First
of
all,
it's
just
bad
ux.
C
It
makes
it
even
harder
to
understand,
but
then,
second
of
all,
it's
kind
of
like
there's
statistical
analysis
going
on
and
those
two
words
put
together,
aren't
always
easy
to
understand.
C
And
so
my
point
is
not
only
do
we
need
to
improve
the
ux
there
in
terms
of
what
data
is
being
presented
to
the
user
and
how
the
performance
of
their
infrastructure,
the
performance
of
their
applications,
is
being
analyzed
and
characterized,
but
really
like
what
does
that
mean
to
them
great,
there's
a
bunch
of
there's
a
cool
looking
histogram
with
different,
you
know,
bubbles
and
info,
but
like
okay,
and
so
what
do
I
do
about
this,
and
how
should
I
interpret
that?
Is
that
good?
Is
that
bad,
like?
How
do
I
know?
C
That's
actually
part
of
the
point
of
service
mesh
performance
that
whole
project
that
that
spec,
the
very
dry
spec
you
know,
specs
are
always
kind
of
dry
we're
trying,
but
let's
liven
it
up
with
information
like
this.
Tell
people
you're
running
it
really
slow,
you're
doing
a
bad
job.
You
should
change
something
and
run
it
faster,
like
your
neighbor.
Next
to
you
is
running
it
a
lot
better
than
you
are,
or
no
no
you're
doing
very
well
like
how
do
they
know.
C
C
Cool
gabriel,
do
you
do
you
really
want
to
talk
about
you're,
one
of
the
you're,
probably
you're
one
of
the
first
community
members
to
to
like
sign
up
to
deliver
a
tutorial?
Do
you
want
to
talk
about
the
one
that
you
were
thinking
about
and.
L
Oh
yeah
sure
so
the
tutorial
I
have
planned
is
basically
the
first
question.
Everyone
asks
when
they
join
the
community,
like
what
the
heck
is
a
service
mesh.
At
least
that
was
my
first
question,
so
I
hope
to
give
this
tutorial
to
help.
Anyone
like
me,
who
still
has
that
question
or
has
a
small
idea
and
doesn't
really
have
the
full
picture
of
how
they
work
and
the
other
stuff
that
goes
on.
C
C
Talk
to
you
thank
you,
yeah
yeah
micro
services,
yeah.
We
should
there's
no
time
to
waste.
You
feel
like
it's
it's
good
and
then
yeah
for
everyone
else.
Either
you
know
give
your
plus
ones
next
to
the
tutorials.
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
you
that
are
on
the
call
now
that
actually
did
fill
in
the
questionnaire
and
voted
for.
You
know
different
topics
you'd
like
to
cover,
so
that's
great,
so
we'll
get
them
going.
C
A
Well
thanksgiving,
so
I
guess
like
we
will
upload
this
in
our
youtube
channel,
so
it
will
be
there.
You
can
watch
it
anytime
and
yeah.
It
will
be
a
good
community
resource.
A
I
also
want
to
mention
about
the
discuss
dot
layer
5.
website.
So
that
is
a
good
place
to
ask
questions.
If
you
have
any
like
it's
a
discover,
it
is
a
new
forum
that
we
created
and
yeah.
We
have
some
productive
talks
there.
So
if
you
have
some
questions
or
if
you
there
might
be
someone
who
asked
the
same
question
so
that
would
be
a
good
place
to
check
that
and
yeah.
A
A
L
Yes,
so
basically,
lavender
already
said
what
this
is
about,
but
the
biggest
change
here
is
that,
finally,
this
works,
although
this
is
just
the
workflow,
what
this
means
in
the
bigger
picture
is.
This
can
now
be
moved
over
to
the
action
itself,
because,
right
now,
what
you're
seeing
on
screen
is
a
workflow
that
basically
sets
up
measuring,
deploys
it
and
runs
a
performance
test.
L
So
with
this
now,
I
can
move
this
over
to
the
action,
and
people
can
actually
use
this
using
service
mesh
performance
profiles.
C
That's
awesome,
so
we
need
to
okay
all
right.
I'm
taking
a
note
like
this.
We
need
to
go.
Tell
a
lot
of
people
about
this.
As
a
matter
of
fact,
psyllium
you
guys
know.
I
don't
know.
If
you
know,
psyllium
is
an
open
source
project
that
helps
put
ebpf
the
power
of
ebpf
into
people's
hands.
Psyllium
is
currently
under
review
within
the
technical
advisory
group
that
I
chair
within
the
cncf
for
adoption
into
the
cncf
and
I'm
bringing
it
up
because
they're
founder
there
is
well
well.
C
C
Do
real
rude
rocks
like
now
that
we've
talked
about
that
for
30
seconds,
like
that's
old
news,
and
so
like
the
next
step,
smi
conformance,
I
don't
think
that
that
command
works,
maybe
just
yet,
but
it
should
be
pretty
easy
to
fix.
C
C
So
that's
next,
I
guess
like
have
you
let's
go,
let's
go
gibral.
Do
you?
What
do
you
recommend?
Can
we
take
that
same
act?
So,
first
of
all,
let's
get
the
action
into
the
github
marketplace.
C
Second,
second
of
all,
let's
get
your
name
publicized
and
embarrass
you
about
this.
Third
of
all,
let's
talk
about
whether
or
not
that
that
particular
action.
I
know
you've
had
a
vision
toward
this
and
been
working
toward
it,
but
is
that
that
action
is
generic
enough,
that
it
can
run
either
a
performance
test
or
a
conformance
test
or
some
other
things.
C
Yes,
we
are
actually
good
good.
I
knew
there's
a
reason
why
we
paid
you
too
all
right.
Let's
get
it's
getting
awkward.
We're
gonna
have
to
send
you
some
merchandise.
A
Thank
you,
gibral,
looking
forward
to
see
more
progress
here.
C
Yeah,
so
the
last
thing
that
people
want
to
do
is
hear
more
from
me
on
the
call,
so
rather
I'll
just
pose
the
question
to
everybody
else.
You
know
so
navendu
said
he
made
the
statement
about
service
mesh
performance.
C
C
C
There
are
two
okay
in
the
venue
since
you've
got
your
browser
up,
if
you
don't
mind
cruising
to
github.com,
cncf,
slash,
oc,
technical
advisory
or
I'm
sorry,
technical
oversight,
committee,
yeah
yep
that
one.
Actually,
that
was
the
issue.
Yes,
so
the
the
projects
are
in
the
process,
so
they've
been
voted
in
and
good
and
it's
not
the
end.
All
this
isn't
the
end-all
like
this
was
the
goal
for
the
this
has
always
been
a
goal
for
the
projects,
but
it's
just
it's
a
it's
a
great
milestone
in
their
journey.
C
Part
of
the
reason
that
it's
such
a
significant
milestone
in
the
journey
of
these
two
projects
is
that
for
service
mesh
performance,
their
intel
and
ibm
engineers
from
these
companies,
their
part,
their
deeper
participation,
had
been
gated
by
corporate
policy
that
those
organizations
really
like
to
participate.
You
know
they're
comfortable,
participating
in
projects
that
are
within
a
foundation
like
this,
and
so
now
that
that's
happened,
the
there
they
are
unchained,
and
so
we
should
expect
a
lot
more
engagement
from
them.
C
We
also
expect
probably
a
lot
more
engagement
from
intel
on
mesh
in
mesher,
because
they're
really
going
to
want
to
use
the
performance
tool
itself,
and
I
expect
they're
going
to
have
quite
a
few
feature
enhancements,
but
in
terms
of
what
this
means,
it's
like
here's,
some
specifics
like
what
does
this
mean
to
the
projects
themselves?
Like
specifically,
this
is
the
project
onboarding
tasks
for
this
one,
I
think,
is
from
mesherry
and
there's
another
one
for
service
mesh
performance
and
and
here's
the
like
did.
We
did
we
hand
over
the
domain
names.
C
Did
we
sign
an
agreement
that
the
trademarks
are
owned
elsewhere?
Did
we
like
there's?
You
can
look
through
the
whole
list,
the
in
essence
the
vast
majority
of
what
this?
What
this
materially
means
to
most
of
us
is
probably
that
things
will
accelerate
a
little
bit
like
it,
really
that
more
eyeballs
will
more
people
will
discover
the
work
that
you've
been
doing.
C
Give
you
feedback
on
it.
Tell
you
what
you've
done
wrong
point
out.
Your
bugs
ask
you
to
do
more
good.
I
hope
you
enjoy
the
feedback
and
I
hope
that
you
know
like
like
there
should
be
more
people
coming.
So
there's
kind
of
a
part
of
what
the
cncf
is
is
a
few
different
things,
but
one
of
them
is
a
world-class
marketing
engine.
C
Now
the
thing
is
sandbox
projects
are
the
lowest
rung
of
the
of
a
three-tier
project
system
within
the
cncf
and
as
such,
they
intentionally
do
not
receive
the
same
amount
of
marketing
same
amount
of
consideration
and
there's
a
long
history
as
to
how
all
this
works.
C
For
my
part,
I've
been
engaged
in
the
cncf
since
its
beginnings
about
six
years
ago
and
they've
commissioned
us
or
me
a
couple
of
times
to
do
some
works,
but
generally
we've,
you
know,
we've
been
heavily
involved,
and
so
all
of
this
is
very
well
expected
as
a
matter
of
fact
so,
okay,
well
does
that
mean
that
our
goal
is
to
stay
in
the
sandbox?
C
I
don't
know,
if
that's
your
goal,
it
ain't
mine.
No,
my
goal
is
people
like
samir
to
come
along
and
say
I
like
this.
That's
wrong!
That's
wrong!
Can
you
do
that?
Yes,
yes,
good
good
and
he
uses
it
and
use
it
and
he
gets
a
lot
of
value
out
of
it
and
eventually
more
people
get
value
out
of
it
and
it
goes
into
it
takes
that
next
step
into
the
incubating
projects
like
the
next
rung
great.
It
benefits
from
more
people
coming
in
and
doing
things
like
eventually.
C
Hopefully,
people
are,
you
know
really
using
it
to
do
to
expect
a
lot
more
out
of
their
infrastructure
to
work
smarter
for
the
operators
of
the
world,
the
sres
of
the
world,
the
platform
engineers
of
the
world,
the
devops
people
of
the
world,
to
not
have
to
go
to
those
pesky
developers
and
ask
them
to
change
the
apps
to
do
things.
They
can
just
go
to
the
mesh
to
do
it
and
they
can
use
meshri
to
really
help.
C
You
know
empower
them
really
empowering
of
those
that
persona
also
for
the
developers
to
get
a
ton
of
insight
and
a
ton
of
control
over
how
their
distributed
application
is
going
to
work.
So
they
don't
so
they
don't
actually
have
to
plead
and
beg
and
borrow
from
the
sres
and
the
platform
engineers
to
like
change
the
number
of
retries
or
tune
or
tweak
up
the
number
of
samples
that
are
happening
for
their
traces
or
what
have
you
like?
C
They
are
significantly
empowered
as
well,
I'm
speaking
to
what
some
of
the
core
value
prop
of
a
service
mesh
is,
which
is
really
hard
for
people.
A
lot
of
people
to
get
to
measury,
like
a
lot
of
the
other
projects,
is
what's
trying
to
make
service
meshes
accessible
to
the
rest
of
us
and
when
it
does
is
trying
to
also
answer
some
tough
questions
and
a
lot
of
those
questions
initially
have
been
focused
on
things
around
performance.
C
That's
that
goes
on
for
a
long
way,
but
there's
a
bunch
of
other
a
bunch
of
other
aspects.
Mastery's
got
a
long
road
map
roadmap
is
one
of
those
things
that
that
we'll
spend
more
time
on
that
as
the
community
as
we
grow
there's
a
number
of
things.
We
don't
do
well
here
and
now.
C
That's
just
a
reflection
of
the
journey
of
the
community.
The
journey
of
the
projects
do
we
have
unit
test
coverage
across
all
the
projects,
not
by
a
long
shot
right.
You
can
see
it
very
clearly.
Would
we,
by
the
time
that
we
were
the
projects,
are
gradually,
you
know
growing
up
and
maturing?
Oh
yeah
like?
Would
they
yeah?
Would
there
be
more
structure,
more
processed,
et
cetera,
yeah
yeah?
C
All
that
you
take
a
look
at
all
the
other
metrics,
though
about
measuring
specifically,
it
already
meets
incubation
level
criteria
it
already
like
is,
would
be
totally
acceptable
to
have
submitted
it
at
that
higher
rung.
Well,
then,
why
didn't
we
start
there?
C
It's
harder
easier
to
start
here.
It
was
hard
enough
to
get
the
darn
things
in
the
first
place.
We
submitted
them
a
couple
of
months
ago.
There
was
positive
response.
C
There
was
also
like
hey:
why
doesn't
s
p
and
mesri
and
smi
all
meld
into
one
like
okay,
maybe
or
why
don't
two
of
them
meld
together
and
that's
still
an
open
question
for
the
two
specification
projects
smp
and
smi,
if
you're
not
familiar
with
what
smi
does
what
smp
does
and
what
meschery
does
like
and
then
I'm
going
to
share
a
link
unless
never
you
can
find
it
for
actually
yeah
the
venue.
If
you
can
go
to
github.com,
go
to
the
github
for
service
mesh
performance.
C
C
And
and
actually
there's
a
pre,
a
project
overview,
a
project
presentation
if
you
scroll
down
and
read
me
a
little
bit
a
little
further
in
the
read
me
past,
the
logo
yeah
the
overview
that
big
fat
that
yep
slide
seven
and
eight
well
slide.
Seven
specifically
is
a
venn
diagram
that
will
that
visually
captures
the
underlap
and
overlap
of
service,
mesh
interface,
service,
mesh
performance
and
meshery,
one
of
y'all.
You
all
should
take
that
and
go
tweet
about
it
or
something
like
that.
You
know
most
of
the
world
doesn't
understand
this.
C
Even
the
cncf
toc
members,
they
didn't
understand
it.
That's
why
they
that's
why
we
had
to
wait
for
another
couple
months
to
bring
the
projects
in
to
go
figure
this
out
and
so
by
the
way
that
suggestion
about
going
and
tweeting
about
something
or
you
know
or
socially
sharing
or
presenting
or
something
is
like
all
most
of
you
are
gonna.
You
know
I
think,
in
your
head
thinking.
Well
as
soon
as
you
start
to
think
about
that
you
you
feel
like
an
imposter.
C
C
Okay!
I
digressed
into
this
to
say
yeah
so
to
say.
C
Yeah,
I
don't
know
anyway,
yeah
projects
are
there,
I'm
gonna
go
do
good
stuff.
Well,
there's
gonna
be
some
re,
some
shifting
of
a
round
of
repos,
so
we're
gonna
move
some
other
repos
into
different
github
organizations,
because,
even
though
layer
five
is
truly
a
community
first
company,
it
is
a
company
it
much
to
my
yeah.
It
doesn't
sell
anything
yet,
hopefully
at
some
point
it
needs
to.
But
but
the
point
is
is
like
hey
that
part
of
the
donation
is
like
shifting
intellectual
property
ownership.
C
You
know
to
a
centrally
governed
foundation.
The
governance
of
the
project
is
something
that
will
evolve
over
time
as
well.
None
of
that
stuff
changes
like
materially
none
of
what
we
all
are
doing
other
than
the
url
to
get
to
the
repos
really
changes.
C
Hopefully
things
get
up
leveled,
hopefully
more
people
coming
by
providing
feedback
using
things
jumping
in
contributing
there's
a
there's,
a
couple
of
competitive
projects
out
there,
not
many,
not
many
at
all,
but
there's
a
couple
and
they've
got
a
big
head
start
and
they
have
the
the
driving
forces
behind
those.
Have
many
tens
of
millions
of
dollars
invested
into
those
organizations
and
the
resources
to
compete
against
you?
C
So
it
is
against
the
odds
that
that
you
all
are
holding
your
own,
so
pretty
cool
any
other
comments
or
questions
about.
C
This
random
example
of
something
that
will
change
is,
if
any
of
you
go
to
submit
a
talk
at
cubecon,
for
example,
you'll
see
measuring
and
service
mesh
performance
listed
on
the
list
like
is
that
what
you're
going
to
talk
about
there'll
also
be
more
opportunities
for
some
of
you
to
speak
or
to
sit
on
panels
or
to
you
know,
tell
the
world
about
what
you're
doing
and
get
them
engaged,
there's
already
a
ton
of
those
opportunities.
Today
this
is
so
you
know,
but
they'll
be
even
more
it'll,
be
even
easier.
C
There's
a
number
of
maintainer
roles
open
in
the
community
as
well,
and
I
really
hope
I
really
hope
for
my
part-
and
I
don't
mean
to
speak
on
behalf
of
the
other
maintainers,
but
I
really
hope
that
they
get
filled.
C
Sorry
interrupt
I
didn't
mean
to
but
actually
joe
comes
to
mind.
Joe
doesn't
is
joe
on
the
call.
No
okay,
that's
too
bad.
I
am
here.
Oh,
he
is
okay,
joe!
You
don't
have
to
do
this.
If
this
isn't,
you
know
tickle
your
fancy,
but
is
the
that
google
slide
deck?
That
navindi
was
just
sharing
the
link
to
it
is
inside
of
the
readme
in
the
service
mesh
performance
repository
the
the
website,
the
jekyll-based
website
for
service
mesh
performance
and
snp
hyphen
spec.io?
C
Yes,
it
it's
in
the
same
repo,
it's
under
the
docs
folder,
but
the
website
itself
like
it,
doesn't
have
a
link
to
or
an
iframe
for,
like
the
overview
deck
that
that
deck
and
like
that'd,
be
a
great
addition,
I
think,
to
the
site.
So
I
I
figured
I'd
call
out
in
case
somebody
wanted
to
add
it
to
the
site.
F
Are
you
asking
me
if
I
can
add
that
to
that
this
site
here
yeah
yeah?
If
you
would,
I
thought
I
saw
that
as
an
issue
somewhere
in
github
already,
and
I
thought
someone
was
working
on
that.
C
That
could
totally
be
the
case.
I
I
am
looking
now
is
that
the
key
oh
wow
yeah,
that
there
is
an
open
issue
and.
C
Oh,
there
is
someone
that
asked
five
days
ago.
Oops
does
I
can't
keep
up
with
what's
going
on
so
by
the
way
I
like,
I
want
to
you.
Take
this
as
an
example.
If
I
can-
and
that
is
there's
a
couple
of
things
that
I
don't
know
that
all
of
you
are
aware
of
like
one.
C
C
Oh
nice,
perfect
yeah,
please
not
take
it
away.
F
We'll
work
on
that
that
golang
error
code
issue
that
you
brought
up
toward
the
beginning
of
the
call.
I
don't
know
if
that
is
in
github.
Yet
as
an
issue.
A
So
there
are
a
couple
of
issues
that
was
created
around
in
different
repositories.
I
can
share
in
the
link.
F
C
So,
okay,
good,
so
the
other
thing
I
was
going
to
say
is
that
if,
if
anyone
sees
an
open
pr,
you're
all
welcome
to
review
it
express
opinion,
say
things,
you
know,
please
it's
a
great
way
to
learn
as
well,
and
so
don't
don't
feel
like
that's
off
limits
like
you,
you
can.
You
should
provide,
you
know,
feedback
to
people,
they
people
like
getting
feedback.
C
The
other
thing
is
in
general,
if
there's
an
open
issue,
and
it
has
a
help
wanted
on
it
like
what
what
I
was
gonna
say
is
what
just
happened
with
ayushman
was.
He
had
asked
like
five
days
ago,
like
hey
I'll,
get
this
knocked
out
well
five
days
ago.
C
That
would
have
been
nice
because,
five
days
ago
the
cncf
was
reviewing
the
project
and
it
would
have
been
nice
to
have
it
up
and
and
it's
and
I
didn't
see
the
comment,
it's
my
fault
for
not
and
what
I'm
trying
to
say
is
many
other.
If
you
are,
if
you've
been
here
long
enough,
you've,
all
you
you
will
have
been
invited
to
your
user
will
have
been
invited
to
be
part
of
the
organization,
which
means
your
user.
Has
the
pro
you
and
your
user
have
the
permission
and
are
encouraged
to
triage
issues.
C
So
so
you
so
if
you
see
someone
saying
hey
I'd
like
to
do
this
like,
if
it's
a
help
wanted
thing,
it's
like
the
answer
is
pretty
much.
Always
that
would
be
lovely.
Please
do
that,
and
so,
if
you
see
that
interaction
going
on,
please
engage
with
people
help
be
a
steward
to
be
so
cool.
I
know
that
it
would.
C
A
Thank
you.
I
guess
we
it's
time
to
wind
up
the
meeting.
We
are
only
10
minutes
late
today.
So
that's
that's
a
good
thing.
We
even
missed
one
item
which
is
readiness
of
measuring
for
the
next
release,
so
I
this
will
be
discussed
in
the
next
week's
measuring
call,
which
happens
on
wednesday,
and
with
that
I
will
see
you
next
week
and
have
a
great
weekend
bye.