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From YouTube: Layer5 Community Meeting (Oct. 11th 2019)
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Welcome @antweiss, @martin_castre, Rafi Ungar, Mohsen Sarvestani, Will Tamagi! The influx of new community members through @hacktoberfest (and other) is amazing. #hacktoberfest
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Nice,
okay,
that's
awesome,
well,
very
good!
Well,
then,
and
I
think
you
already
did
it
I
think
you
already
muted,
because
because
we
don't
hear,
we
don't
hear
the
road
anymore,
so
good,
alright!
So
today's
this
is
I'm
pretty
pumped
about
today
on
the
side
of
it
being
Friday
and
by
the
way
can
every
everyone
can
hear
me
right.
Yes,
I
think
and
your
video
might
be
frozen,
which
is
causing
me
concern.
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A
All
right
and
we're
back
very
good
okay,
so
let's
get
going,
there's
I
was
just
about
to
say.
Not
only
am
I
pumped
that
it's
Friday
I'm
also
pumped
because
well
I,
don't
know
if
it's
it's
some
of
its
through
hecto
professed
and
some
of
us
through
just
the
good
work
that
the
community
has
been
doing,
but
we
have
three
first-timers
on
today's
call,
so
I'm
really
excited
about
that
actually
I'm
and
impressively
so
each
of
the
first
first
comers
are
have
already
made
a
splash
in
the
community.
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D
Yeah
I
all
hear
me:
okay,
mm-hmm
yeah,
so
yeah
I'm
new
here
and
it's
it's
good
to
be
a
lot
last
week.
I
couldn't
join
it's
because
it's
Friday
night
here!
So
it's
really!
You
know
it
is
really
my
favorite
time,
but
today,
I
found
some
time
to
join
so
anyway.
I'm
a
consultant
we're
a
small
work,
consultancy
company
based
in
Israel.
We
deal
with
the
software
delivery,
DevOps
things
around
that
and
we've
been
very
interested
in
service
measures
in
the
last
year.
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So
we
did
a
couple
of
I
did
a
couple
of
talks
on
service
mesh
and
I
built
a
nice
tio
workshop
that
I
presented
in
Berlin
and
the
rest
of
the
in
London,
so
yeah
a
lot
of
common
interests?
That's
why?
When
I
found
out
about
flare,
5,
admit
I,
don't
onboard
and
I
I
found
a
very
welcoming
community
and
I'm
happy
to
say
my
first
to
pull
requests
actually
already
got
merged
into
my
furry
Steel.
So
I'm
very
excited
about
this.
A
Awesome
I,
I
guess
in
a
good
way.
You
guys
remember,
was
it
a
week
ago
or
two
weeks
ago,
I
had
said:
oh,
maybe
it
was
a
little
bit
earlier.
I
think
it
was
Rho
heat.
We
had
said
like
hey
the
guy
set
the
record.
It
was
like
he
found
out
about
the
community.
His
PR
had
been
merged
and
he'd
joined
the
call
and
it
was
kind
of
a
record
setting
and
and
I.
Oh
I
think
it
may
have
just
broken
the
record
set
it's
a
good.
D
Yeah,
but
that's
what
folks
usually
called
me,
you
know
what
well
back
when
it
actually
started
in
school,
then
I
started
dealing
a
little
bit
with
Java
back
in
the
day,
so
and
I
was
dealing
with
Java
bills.
So
then
I
had
this
job
that
I
people
used
to
call
me
an,
but
then,
with
time
I
became
a
little
bit
over
maven
and
now
I
don't
want
to
go
back
to
any
of
this
again.
A
It's
been
good.
Actually,
we've
got
an
outstanding
PR
from
Andrea.
That's
embarassingly
old
I
need
to
go.
We
need
to
go.
Take
a
look
at
we've,
given
a
talker
to
with
him.
So
it's
been
good
they've
been
matter
of
fact,
I'm
Girish.
When
you
gave
the
last
edition
of
the
workshop
in
Ottawa
or
no
I'm,
sorry
in
Montreal,
it
was
in
Iran
Iran
from
a
student
mesh.
Was
there
helping
out.
A
F
I'm
working
on
a
service
mesh
as
I
wrote
it
to
you
that
I'm
working
to
have
to
have
some
sort
of
the
service
machine
in
a
multi
cluster
environment,
we
Tekin
controller
to
run
a
POC
for
a
company
and
so
that
that
are
my
goals
to
find
out.
What's
the
best
option,
what
should
I
do
and
yeah
that's.
That's.
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F
A
Since
we're
on
the
topic,
let's
explore
that
for
a
moment
and
yeah
yeah,
and
so
let
me
replay
the
use
case
that
you
have
I
think
it's
sounded
like
it
was
multiple
regions,
multiple
clusters,
the
important
part
of
it
was
that
these
are
heterogeneous
clusters,
meaning
in
one
environment.
You
might
be
running
this
do
in
another
environment,
it
might
be
liquidy.
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F
We
should
run
a
service
made,
for
example,
support
that
there
is
the
customers
that
want
to
run
jakey
on
services,
and
they
have
some
some
clusters
on
some
regions
at
least
two
regions
in
East
and
West
and
code
is,
and
so
they
want
to
have
it
one
one
service,
one
service
machine
all
of
these
in
all
of
these.
Yes,
oh,
they
are
thinking
that
they
must
have
at
least
two
controllers.
Yes,
that's
the
use
case.
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Hey
guys,
this
is
Martine
gesturing
yeah,
so
I
originally
found
measuring
via
the
Oktoberfest
and
immediately
got
you
know
great
great
feedback
and
support
and
so
I'm
very
interested
in
continuing
working
with
you,
guys.
I
picked
up
two
or
the
issues
on
the
board
and
one
of
the
network,
so
cool
and
then
gonna
work
a
little
bit
more
on
some
of
the
UI
aspects
of
it.
My
trade
I
am
a
lead
front.
G
End
of
for
a
company
called
region
thing
here
in
Birmingham,
Alabama,
Regions
Bank
is
one
of
the
larger
banks
in
the
southeast
of
the
US.
So
definitely
had
a
chance
to
work
with
some
higher
power
environments
and
you
know,
get
to
get
to
work
with
him
or
on
contentious
architecture
of
the
funnin
and
learn
more
about
our
kick
in
the
backend
and
so
I.
G
A
H
A
Are
just
hungry
for
feedback,
and
so
things
like
that
Mohsen
is
doing
in
the
way
that
aunt
is
taking
helping
customers
get
get.
Mushy
is
very
helpful
for
understanding
helping
guide
the
roadmap
of
my
Shri
itself,
the
and
and
I
would
also
say
that
there's
very
few
we've
had
lots
and
lots
of
folks
come
through
the
community
and
come
on
the
calls.
There's
many
people
who
will
come
once
every
other
time
or
you
know
they
do
what
they
can,
and
my
point
is:
5%
of
them
have
known
what
a
mesh
is
before
coming
on.
A
The
call
I
mean
I,
just
you're,
a
very
good
company.
It's
it's
early
technology,
it's!
This
is
a
good
place
to
yeah
cut
your
teeth
on
a
lot
of
things.
Of
that
you
know.
Actually,
since
we've
we've
got
you
and
we're
kind
of
talking
about
some
of
the
things
that
you've
done.
Do
you,
if
you're
in
a
place
to
you
know,
show
show
that
that
contribution
and
maybe
show
the
icons
that
this
can
be
a
good
time
to
get
some
feedback.
A
G
Alright,
so
the
first
thing
I
picked
up
was
this
feature
for
the
collapsible
navigation
menu
and
you're,
familiar
with
the
Mestre
right.
It
has
a
fixed
sidebar
and
as
the
several
layers
of
navigation
here-
and
so
you
know,
Li
was
asking
for
something
similar
to
this.
Where
you
can,
you
know
collapse
it
to
I
can
only
view.
Give
you
get
more
workspace
real
estate
for
that
for
the
user
on
the
main
area,
so
got
mystery,
running
locally
and
I
added
this
little
icon
here
for
collapse
and
as
on
their
mystical.
G
Another
thing
I
had
was
just
to
like
make
sure
these
icons
lined
up
on
one
toggle,
so
another
another
thing
you
might
even
look
at
is
potentially
adding
some
visualization
that
there
are
layers
to
this
and
maybe
with
a
little
divider
between
each
of
the
main
selected
performances.
One
management
is
one
light
level
and
then
perhaps
maybe
a
little
divider
here
to
give
that
kind
of
like
there's
this
one
part
of
this
thing
and
so
on
so
yeah
it
was
pretty
much
just
a
easy
react.
G
State
management
variable
that
I
added
just
is
your
collapse
on
the
Navigator
json',
and
really
you
can
oh,
you
can
do
all
this
functionality
could
just
see
as
those
classes
go.
It's
really
very
good
where
you
gonna
do
I'm
not
as
familiar
with
the
material
UI
framework.
Go
ahead.
I
got
to
learn
a
little
bit
more
about
you,
guys.
G
A
G
G
Yes,
I
didn't
think
it
would
make
a
lot
of
sense
to
have
a
collapsible
icon
for
here.
Cuz
it
you
know
kind
of
user
might
need
to
see
those
values,
and
you
never
know
what
kind
of
device
size
the
user
will
be
on.
So
I
think
the
hamburger
icon
route
was
a
good
call,
especially
for
you
got
six
seven
seven
nav
items
or
to
be
more.
It
doesn't
really
make
sense
to
do.
Maybe
like
a
bottom
drawer.
G
A
G
A
G
Yeah
we
can
go
with
a
different
icon
and
another
cool
thing
we
could
possibly
add,
as
an
enhancement
is
to
animate
the
icon.
You
know
maybe
change
the
arrow
back
to
the
other
way.
So
obviously
this
means
was
it
and
then
they
could
face
the
air
or
the
other
way
to
open
it.
But
yeah
get
your
hand
cleaner,.
H
H
G
Yeah,
so
that's
that's
going
to
be
a
the
idea.
The
collapsible
menu
kind
of
falters
is
that
there's
very
little
visual
clue
as
to
which
icons
apply,
to
which
key
kind
of
moving
them
all
into
one
level,
and
so
so
one
one
idea
would
be
to
possibly
do
some
kind
of
divider
or
some
kind
of
clue
in
between
the
icons
to
indicate
that
there's
more
than
one
level
and
of
course
the
user
can
always
toggle
back
and
forth
to
see.
G
Another
thing
I
wanted
to
add
its
when
you
the
problem
with
having
adjust
an
icon
interface.
Is
that
it's
hard
to
distinguish
what
icons
representing
what
and
so
I
wanted
to
add
a
title
attribute
to
these
just
the
names
of
the
names
of
the
items
here
so
when
they
hover
over
it
they'll
see
a
tooltip
saying
what
it
is,
then
that
way,
you
know
you
don't
lose
any
kind
of.
What
is
this
icon
thing?
That's
wrong!.
A
Totally:
okay,
while
we're,
while
we're
taking
down
the
task
list,
yeah,
there's
a
couple
of
items
that
so
the
from
the
top
three
menu
items
are,
you
know
off-white
and
then
and
then
we're
doing
a
poor
job
with
being
consistent
with
the
rest
and
so
there's
and
but
those
icons,
those
projects
they
they
all
come
in
white
as
well
find
out.
We
can.
A
There's
actually
on
this
note-
and
it's
maybe
a
good
thing
for
all
of
us
to
reflect
on
for
a
moment.
That
is
that
this
has
a
little
bit
to
do
with
the
architecture
of
ma
cherie
martini.
If
you
were
in
an
environment
where
and
as
matter
of
fact,
okay
I
think
yeah,
because
you're
running
massery,
not
in
a
container
but
locally
on
your
machine,
part
of
your
connection
to
the
other
adapters
isn't
quite
there,
but
and
so
part
of
the
experience.
A
Actually,
if
you
were
able
to
go
back
to
the
collapsible
navigation
menu
issue,
you
in
the
screenshot
it
yeah,
it
shows
you
that
there's
actually
a
third
level
of,
and
so
this
is
you
know,
duration
and
others
that
have
been
around
measuring
for
some
time.
What
this
is
showing
you
is
hey.
There
are
three
adapters
connected
1
1
4
is
to14
like
any
local
council.
A
A
My
point
is
because
of
I
don't
know
that
we're
really
gonna
arrive
at
a
place
where,
like
like
Formosan,
if
he
had
an
sto
in
on
gke,
an
sto
deployment
on
pret
and
GK
on
Prem,
it's
really
only
gonna
require
one
adapter
for
him
to
be
able
to
use
mesh.
We
to
interface
with
both
so
Michael
I.
Think
you
get
where
I'm
going,
which
is
I,
don't
know
that
we
need
this
third
level
of
depth
Krrish
or
any
any
others.
You
guys
want
to
correct
those
statements
that
line
of
thinking.
A
D
Yeah,
so
so
what
I
was
saying
that
you
know,
while
developing
at
least
I
I
ran
my
own
measure,
easy
adapter,
another
one
on
a
different
port
so
that
way
on
my
interface
I
had
actually
had
to
under
a
co
and
that
something
that
could
happen.
Probably
so
maybe
we
still
do
need
this
Ivan
was
thinking.
While
you
were
speaking
me,
I
was
thinking
you
know
showing
a
number
saying:
well,
East
you!
D
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B
A
And
so
before,
I
forget
I
got
a
I
think
we
might
use
I,
don't
know.
If
this
is
a
record
today
or
not
I,
we
can't
have
too
many
records.
Otherwise,
we've
got
some
record
holders
on
the
call
so
Haim
who's
on
the
call
continues
to
hold
the
hold
a
record
for
externally
contributed
adapter,
and
so
he
he
wrote
the
octarine
adapter
sauce,
but
with
Raffy
just
having
joined
there's
for
first-timers
on
the
call
and
I'm
not
sure
if
that's
a
record
or
not,
but
I'm
really
excited
about
it
either
way.
So
this
is.
A
This
is
great
of
the
topic
at
hand,
though
this
is.
This
is
pretty
interesting
and
it's
kind
of
neat
that
the
the
architecture
is
flexible
and
powerful
enough
that
you
can
represent
the
you
can
represent
the
interaction
in
a
couple
of
different
ways.
Before
expressing
an
opinion,
let
me
state
a
future
vision
for
measure
E.
A
A
A
Right
now,
within
mesh,
we
the
concept
of
an
environment.
If
you
go
to
the
settings
area,
it's
in
a
very,
very
nascent
way
begun
to
be
formed.
The
the
the
like
you
know
the
environment
as
an
object
as
a
thing
that
has
relationships
and
as
a
formal
noun.
If
you
will
inside
of
the
project,
we
don't.
We
have
an
implicit
environment
and
the
implicit
environment.
Is
that
really
in
the
project
you
can't
define?
A
You
cannot
define
multiple
environments
they're
implicitly,
there
is
one
environment
and
that's
messy-
and
it's
pointed
at
various
surfaces
in
the
future,
for
many
of
you,
I
think
it
probably
makes
I'm
gonna
put
some
words
in
your
mouth
and
say
that
it
probably
makes
some
intuitive
sense
that
you
and
certainly
Formosan,
that
you've
got
multiple
environments.
You've
got
things
on
Prem
things
in
this
cloud.
Things
in
that
cloud.
You've
got
things
in
the
same
cloud
that
are
just
different
clusters
that
are
not
intended
to
be
connected
to
one
another
potentially
and
then
Mestre
can
help.
A
You
get
a
view
across
all
of
them,
and
so
my
point
being
is
that
you're
likely
to
want
to
define
different
environments
you're
likely
to
want
to
connect
to
different
kubernetes
clusters,
even
in
the
most
simplest
of
use
cases
of
running
a
small
workload
on
kubernetes.
You
know
in
production
you
probably
have
a
production
environment
and
hopefully,
you've
got
at
least
a
staging
or
a
development
or
a
QA.
A
You
know,
you've
got
multiple
environments,
and
so
my
point
is
the
concept
of
an
environment
needs
to
come
forth
as
a
first-class
citizen
within
the
project
as
it
does,
the
manifestation
of
that
construct
environment
is
likely
to
be
shown
with
here
when
you're
in
with
a
service
mesh
that
you
would
say
great
its
benefits
matter.
Fact
you
wouldn't.
A
As
a
user
generally,
you
probably
generally
don't
care
that
much
about
the
fact
that
there's
a
mesh
you
sto
adapter,
you
can
de
don't
care
that
much
about
the
architecture
of
mesh
reading
as
a
user,
because
hey
if
the
product,
if
this,
if
mesh
rillettes
you
interface
with
multiple
meshes
awesome,
what
I
do
care
about
is
what
mesh
am
I
enter.
What
service
mesh
deployment
am
I
interfacing
with
now
which
one
of
those
am
I
going
to
configure
and,
and
you
know,
mess
with
and
that's
the
selection
that
needs
to
be
come
forth?
A
You
know
in
these
in
this
page,
it's
things
about
it's:
either
things
about
environment
or
the
the
name
of
the
instance
kept
to
ants
point,
where
the
way
that
he
was
achieving
this
having
you
know
having
mastery
interface
with
two
different
service
mesh
instances.
In
this
case
it
was
of
the
same
type.
It
was
Sto
one
of
those
ways
of
doing
it
was
deploying
multiple
copies
of
the
same
adapter.
A
That's
a
supported
scenario
and
that's
perfect,
but
if
one
adapter
is
and
so
I
think
we
need
to
write
some
things
down
and
have
have
the
community
have
each
of
you
guys
kind
of
reflect
on
it.
That
I
think,
in
my
perspective,
is
we
you
might
deploy
a
second
adapter,
maybe
for
resiliency
or
maybe
because
it
was
literally
deployed
that
adapter
was
deployed
remotely
or
something
like
that,
but
but
that
you
wouldn't
or
that,
if
you
just
want
to
find,
but
that
mastery
wouldn't
force
you
to
deploy.
A
Warn
adapter
per
mesh
that
you
can
deploy
one
adapter
and
have
that
one
easy
adapter
interface
with
multiple
st
O's
and
so
as
such
yeah
will
want
to.
You
know:
I
think
that
I
guess
my
point
is
I,
don't
I
don't
know
if
by
default,
if
we
necessarily
I'd,
certainly
by
default
right
now,
unless
you're
an
advanced
user
like
ant,
you
probably
don't
need
to
see
these
sub
menu
items.
All
you
really
need
to
see
is
the
ability
to
click
sto
itself.
You
know
you
know.
A
As
a
user,
you
don't
need
to
know
that
oh
you're
running
an
adapter
on
this
port.
Do
you
think
generally
you
don't
so
so
what
I'm
getting
to
is
I
think
we
can
eliminate.
This
is
powerful
and
good
I'm
glad
that
barista
we
spent
that
you
would
spent
the
time
to
make
sure
that
we
had
that
flexibility,
but
we
might
be
able
to
simplify
and.
G
G
Next
to
the
person's
name.
You
could
do
something
like
that
for
a
number
of
adapters
connected
like
I'm,
not
a
vacation
died
or
something
that
way,
you're
still
aware
of
how
many
adapters
are
connected,
and
then
we
don't
need
the
second,
the
third
layer
of
navigation.
You
can
just
click
on
the
sto.
You
see
you
have
two
connections
on
sto
clicking
that
up
and
then
in
this
view
you
could
possibly
see
the
at
the
connected
adapters
and
their
ports
and
stuff.
A
A
You
still
can
get
access
to
those
multiple
adapters
and
you're
aware
that
they're
there,
but
it
doesn't
need
to
be
in
your
face.
It's
actually
Martine
to
your
point
right
now.
If
you
were
to
try
to
navigate
to
a
given
category,
if
you
will
or
your
given
sto
or
linker,
do
you
actually
doesn't
go
anywhere
in
that?
That's
that's
yeah!.
A
C
Sure
so
hi,
my
name
is
Raffy
I'm,
a
student
from
Toronto
Canada
I
stumbled
upon
layer
5
through
Oktoberfest,
which,
if
you
don't
know,
is
an
open
source
kind
of
community
event
where
we
get
I,
guess
first-time
contributors
to
a
you
know,
dabble
in
new
projects
and
such
so
I
discovered
layer,
5
I
was
surprised
by
the
welcoming
community
and
I
really
decided
to
you
know
make
this.
You
know
my
focus
for
at
least
half
an
Oktoberfest
Oktoberfest,
the
first
two
contributions
so
I.
You
know
I
made
a
contribution
and
I
thought
it
was.
C
It
was
really
cool,
so
I,
I
kind
of
wrote
it
up
on
my
on
a
blog
post
and
somehow
we
discovered
it,
and
you
know
that
worked
with
me
a
bit
and
it
was
really
a
surprising
and
nice
to
see
that
so
I
I
really
appreciate.
You
know
the
in
you
know
layer,
five
and
what
they're
doing
I
don't
understand
it
yet,
but
I'm
happy
to
be
here
and
I'm
happy
to
listen
in
and
just
experience
all
this
all
this
cool
technical
stuff.
C
It's
a
it's
really,
there's
just
so
much
to
learn
when
you're,
just
starting
out,
you
know,
there's
all
these
different
branches.
All
these
places
to
go
so
I
I
really
appreciate
you
know
the
opportunities
just
to
you
know
learn
about
the
little
things,
though
the
things
that
layer
5
uses
even
stuff,
like
you
know,
Jekyll
and
liquid,
for
your
your
static
site
that
you
use.
You
know
all
these.
All
these
small
things
I
appreciate-
and
you
know
who
knows
maybe
maybe
service
meshes-
are
in
my
future.
A
A
It
yeah
I
hope
that
you
guys
do
earnestly
like
it
more
that
I
hope
that
it
works
out
that
not
only
are
you
learning
as
you're
going
through
this,
but
that
it
feels
good
to
have
a
place
to
well
to
be
creative,
to
learn
in
a
low-pressure
friendly
environment
and
then,
as
part
of
that
that
you're
it's
gonna
take
a
while,
maybe
but
Molson
is
here
and
already
showing
that
it
doesn't
necessarily
take
that
long.
But
it's
gonna
take
it.
A
It's
gonna
take
a
while,
but
done
well,
you
mark
today's
date,
because
I
would
say
that
you'll
get
more
feedback
than
you
ever
desired.
If
we're
doing
the
right
thing
here,
the
things
that
you
will
see
your
work
used.
My
hope
is
extraordinarily
broadly
and
on
something
about
World
Stages.
As
a
matter
of
fact
that
this
work
has
been
up,
gireesh
has
taken
the
work
up
on
Cuba
on
stage
multiple
times
now
and
he'll
be
doing
it
again
at
the
upcoming
cube
con
and
as
a
matter
of
fact,
at
NSM.
A
A
The
other
thing
I
would
say
along
that
same
point:
I
just
got
done,
establishing
a
new
special
interest
group
and
so
hi
I'm,
not
sure.
If
this
is
of
interest
to
you,
it
may
be
of
interest
to
all
of
you,
but
is
the
new
special
interest
group
in
the
CN
CF?
It's
called
the
network.
Sig
it
will
be
governing
body.
A
And
is
it's
really
like
an
onion
aidid
project
at
the
moment,
which
means
that
people-
it's
not
pissing
anyone
off,
but
at
some
point
it
needs
to
because
at
some
point
Mohsen
asked
a
great
question
earlier
this
week
is
like
hey,
I
mean
I,
need
a
development
environment,
I
need
to
run
a
mesh
inside
of
it
and
you
know
which
service
mesh
do
you
feel?
Like
might
be,
you
know
good
for
it.
Developing
your
arm
right
and
the
thing
is,
is
if
the
landscape
was
doing
ultimately
its
job.
A
If
you
will,
it
would
answer
some
of
those
questions
or
it
would
lead
people
to
help
answer
those
questions
themselves,
because
today
it's
pretty
it's
in
it's
an
index
of
facts,
yes
and
and
actually
Rafi.
If
you
have
it
handy,
if
you
could
bring
it
up,
not
only
can
people
kind
of
familiarize
with
what
we're
talking
about,
but
then
you
can
also
show
off
your
enhancements.
C
C
I,
don't
want
to
waste
waste
your
meeting
time
with
figuring
of
the
technical
details,
but
in
any
case
I
did
work
on
the
layer,
5
landscape
page,
which
I'm
sure
a
lot
of
you.
A
lot
of
you
are
familiar
with
I,
basically
just
fix
some
styling
and
got
the
tables
to
to
sort
when
you
click
on
the
column
headers
there.
So
I
guess
we're
saying:
Lee
is
right.
Now
it's
kind
of
neutral
people
can
make
their
own
conclusions,
but,
ultimately
the
goal
is
to
have
recommendations
for
service
messages.
Yeah.
A
C
Yeah,
that's
interesting
definitely
definitely
can
look
into.
That
sounds
like
something
like
a
lot
of
lot
of
services
that
deal
with
like
computer
components,
all
of
like
benchmarking.
You
know
functionalities
and,
like
you
know,
comparisons
and
stuff.
So
it
sounds
like
a
little
project
in
and
of
itself,
maybe
maybe
separate
from
the
service
landscape
page.
A
A
Okay,
so
so
having
settled
that
we've
got
just
about
four
or
five
minutes
left
I
want
to
make
sure
that
if
anyone
ok
knew
no
I
had
to
go-
and
you
know
thanks
so
much
for
your
for
your
answers
this
weekend
and
on
windows
he's
going
over
the
four
five
minutes
left.
Did
anyone
have
something
else
that
they
wanted
to
talk,
that
they
wanted
to
bring
up
or
work
that
they
wanted
to
demo.
A
It's
a
great
for
mesh.
Well,
us,
okay
for
both!
Yes,
the
kuhmo
work
is
a
spur,
are
hopeful
in
that
we
haven't
engaged
with
that
with
calling
just
yet
there
is
a
repo
there's,
a
measuring
kuma
adapter
repo,
that's
really
just
like
it
should
be
building
at
the
moment
it's
just
kind
of
the
vanilla
adapter.
A
I'll
feel
it
about
good,
the
other
one,
the
other
one
is
with
with
mesh
so
yeah.
We
we've
had
a
we've
had
a
couple
of
meetings
now
with
the
continuous
folks
and
articulated
you
know,
there's
a
there's,
an
adapter
repo
there
it
to
is
building
it
doesn't
have
anything
made.
Specific
Krrish
has
written
up
the
list
of
kind
of
steps
of
things
that
you
know
various
G
RPC
interfaces
that
need
to
be
completed,
provided
that
to
a
guy
named
Daniel
who's.
A
A
I
told
them
I
guess
the
point
is
so
and
I'm
gonna
backfill
you
on
some
male
threads
and
some
discussions
to
help
ramp.
You
I
think
we
mention
it
a
couple
of
times
in
here
so
Daniel,
so
part
of
part
of
our
time
is
spent
inside
of
the
service
mesh
interface
group
or
my
Cherie
is
and
I
think
you
know
this,
maybe
or
maybe
I-
don't
you've
seen
it.
But
memory
is
an
SMI
partner.
A
D
A
A
D
And
yeah,
one
more
thing
I
want
to
ask
is
like:
where
are
we
with
running
benchmarks
on
different
measures,
because
this
seems
like
you
know,
this
could
be
a
good
purpose
for
the
project
and
also
something
that
could
contribute
to
to
the
public
relations
or
marketing
of
the
project.
Definitely,
who
could
have
some
actual
benchmark
results?
Yeah.
A
A
This
is
how
this
is,
how
much
overhead
you
you,
you
would
expect
in
general
you're
going
to
pay
for
the
the
value
provided
somewhere.
It's
a
really
frustratingly
complicated
thing,
because
it
depends
on
so
many
variables.
You
know
the
environments,
the
run
and
the
type
of
tests
you
ran
all
these
things.
We
think
we're
close
to
having
gathered
all
of
that
type
of
all
the
necessary
information
to
be
able
to
make
us
mint
part
of
what
we
hope
for
the
project
is
to
be
able
to
show
in
the
project.
A
If
you
run
a
performance
test
in
measure,
E
in
the
interface
itself
is
just
just
is
to
show
back
a
is
to
say
to
someone
great
you've
got
an
80%
score,
meaning
for
all
of
the
others
that
have
run
this
in
the
same
type
of
environment
with
the
same
with
similar
under
similar
conditions.
You're
performing
this
well
or
this
is
what
you're
paying
kind
of
like
you
would
do,
an
Internet
bandwidth,
speed
test,
and
it
tells
you
you
know.
A
You
know,
you've
got
five,
get
five
Meg's
up
and
two
minutes
down
or
whatever
and
by
the
way
you're
getting
ripped
off,
because
on
the
same
ISP
your
neighbors,
getting
a
lot
higher
or
you
know
whatever.
So
that's
part
of
the
that's
part
of
the
vision,
part
of
the
goal.
This
is
part
of
where
we're
beginning
to
expose
these
statistics.
It's
hopefully
we're
gonna
have
to
your
point
about
marketing
and
kind
of
just
or
just
general
good
marketing
for
the
project.
A
General
goodwill
to
those
that
are
currently
adopting
and
will
be
adopting
for
years
to
come,
Google
IBM,
buoyant
Hoshi,
Corp
and
I
think
we
might
have
twisted
Hymas
arm.
At
one
point.
Each
of
these
those
mesh
service
providers
have
committed
to
incorporating
measure
e
into
their
release
process
and
using
mastery
as
a
consistent
tool
and
a
consistent
format
for
publishing
their
performance
tests
and,
and
so
the
status
of
it
is
right
now,
Google
is
most
prominently.
Saying,
hey
we're
ready
to
engage,
will
help
dedicate
an
engineer.
A
Let's
go
and,
and
there's
too
few
of
us
focused
full.
You
know
that
we
haven't,
we
need
to
go
back
and
engage,
I
saw
over
I'll
ramp,
you
on
the
the
current
test
plans
and
and
the
folks
involved
and
okay.
We
we
really
need
to
go,
do
that.
We
really
need
to
finish
that
piece
off
finish,
that
initial
use
case
off
with
a
loud
splash,
so
yeah.