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Layer5 Community Meeting - Oct 1st, 2021
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A
Welcome
to
the
lair
fight
community
meeting
today
is
october,
1st
2021,
which
means
it's
the
first
day
of
factor
professed
so
layer
5
has
been
actively
participating
in
hack
hacktoberfest
in
the
previous
years
as
well.
So
I
guess
we
will
look
into
more
about
that
as
well,
and
we
also
have
a
lot
of
newcomers
joining
us
this
week
and
we
had
two
people
introduce
themselves.
So
if
there
is
anyone
else
who
is
new
on
this
call,
please
introduce
yourself,
I
don't
think
there
is,
but
in
case
I
missed
someone.
B
Hello,
everyone,
my
name,
is
siddhant.
I
am
currently
pursuing
my
undergraduate
engineering
from
manipal
university
jaipur.
I
am
currently
in
second
year
and
I
currently
do
front-end
development,
mostly
like
I
am
proficient
in
the
ag
javascript
and
also
I'm
getting
my
hand
polished
on
back-end
development
like
node-based.
I
know
them,
but
I
haven't
made
any
projects
on
them
for
now,
so
I'm
getting
my
hands
volumes
on
them.
So
we
are
looking
forward
to
work
in
the
future
and
learn
a
lot
from
here.
A
Thank
you
welcome
to
the
community.
Thank
you
all
right,
so
we
have
a
couple
of
announcements
before
we
generally
pick
so
today.
So
would
you
like
to
talk
about
the
hacktoberfest
initiatives.
C
Could
you
just
open
the
link
yeah
so
hi
guys
as
we
step
into
october?
We,
the
hacktoberfest,
has
started
beginning
from
today,
so
the
main
announcement
about
that
is,
if
you
guys
just
create
pr's
and
then
write,
write,
a
comment
there
that
you
wanted
to
be
tagged
doesn't
have
to
as
a
hacktoberfest
like
as
a
hacktoberfest
pr
we'll
put
a
label
on
it
or
if
you
can
put
a
label
on
it
by
yourself
like.
If
you
have
the
access
to,
please
feel
free
to
do
that
yeah.
C
A
Just
to
I
think,
like
we
can
make
it
reprovide
by
adding
the
hacktoberfest
label
in
the
repo
I
think
like
that,
should
also
accept
all
pr's
as
october
sprs.
I
guess
like.
C
C
No,
that's
that's
like
it's
written
in
the
rules,
but
that's
not
how
it's
working,
because
I
have
had
a
hacktoberfest
pr
merge
today,
so
it
gets
automatically
updated.
There's
a
hacktoberfest
accepted
label
in
the
measuring.
I
o
repo,
but
I
don't
think
we
need
that,
like
one
label
is
sufficient
enough.
E
Cool
yeah:
that's
actually
I'm
a
great
thing
that
you
guys
are
reviewing
like
this
year's
participation
rules,
because
those
of
that
this
will
be
our
third
year
participating
in
oktoberfest
and
yeah.
The
rules
kind
of
you
know,
I
think
they
update
them
from
year
to
year
and
so
to
be
clear
of
the
of
an
individual.
That's
on
the
call
that
has
read
this
year's
rules
like
specifically,
what
is
that?
Is
it
a
it's?
A
label
on
a
pr
and
it
needs
to
say
hacktoberfest
or
some
variation
of
octoberfest.
C
So
the
rules
say
say
that
after
the
peer
has
been
accepted,
we
have
to
put
in
put
on
a
label
that
says
hacktoberfest
accepted,
but
I
did
not
put
a
hacktoberfest
accepted
label
today
and
my
peers
got
accepted
already
so
does
the
hacktoberfest
label
should
do
like?
We
don't
need
to
separate
labels
for
it.
E
A
E
We're
all
good
to
go
great.
So,
by
the
way
I
would
submit
to
you
all
that
there's
a
couple
of
things
that
that
should
be
done.
One
is
what
aditya
already
did,
which
is
update
the
layer.
Five
io
website
to
you
know,
help
item
help,
show
the
fact
that
we're
participating
that
we
welcome
newcomers
and
those
that
participate
in
this
activity,
that
there
are
hundreds
and
hundreds
and
hundreds
of
issues
that
I
know
of,
and
probably
a
hundred
that
many
of
you
know
of
that
are
not
listed
as
issues.
E
Don't
require
that
you
have
been
participating
to
the
project
previously
there
there's
there's
hundreds
of
those.
We
don't
have
those
all
in
issues,
though,
so
there
are
a
lot
of
issues
to
go
create.
E
E
You
know
trying
to
help
in
that
regard
and
actually
any
of
you
whether
you're,
even
if
you're
just
participating
in
hacktoberfest
like
you're,
welcome
to
help
in
that
regard
as
well
there's
a
long
list.
I
can
talk
to
you
for
an
hour
straight
on,
like
all
these
things.
To
do
so,
there's
no
reason
that
we
wouldn't
be
able
to
uplift
and
encourage
a
bunch
of
people
to
come
and
contribute.
E
That's
what
so,
that's
one
thing
yeah!
The
other
thing
is,
I
would
suggest
that,
like
it
does,
it
doesn't
hurt
any
pr
that
goes
in
this
month.
It
doesn't
hurt
to
just
label
it
with
hacktoberfest.
E
If
that
individual
isn't
participating
in
they,
they
won't
get
an
email
and
they
won't
sign
up
and
they
won't.
You
know,
there's
no
harm
there.
If
they
are
good,
then
they're
taken
care
of,
but
the
back
and
forth
for
the
comments
and
things
probably
not
necessary
this
page
so
yeah.
E
E
E
E
You
have
to
trust
me
I'll
point
them
out,
there's
four
of
them,
but
we
do
a
lot
of
workflows
as
well.
Like
there's,
there's
I
think,
to
what
aditya
had
written
here
and
maybe
what
navendu
had
been
espousing.
Is
that
there's
a
lot
to
do
in
the
community
that
isn't
the
code?
Actually,
this
page
itself
had
to
be
created,
the
form
there
that
gets
is
created,
but
when
people
submit
it,
what
are
we
gonna
do
about
that?
People
are
requesting
a
particular
tutorial
like.
E
You're
welcome
to
host
the
you
know
a
session.
It
doesn't
have
to
be,
doesn't
have
to
be
an
hour.
Long
could
be.
20
minutes
doesn't
have
to
be
overly
formal.
There's
slide
templates
that
you
can
use
we'll
record
it,
get
it
up,
we'll
tweet
about
it
yeah
anyway.
It's
a
great.
So
it's
a
great
excuse
this
month
to
go
be
social,
which
is
nice.
E
E
So
so
that
means
that
it
will
be
important
for
newcomers
like
manav
to
receive
others
like
to
immediately
turn
around
and
receive
others.
So
that's
good
anyway.
Anshu
had
raised
his
hand
on
I'm
not
sure
if
it's
anchor
on
chimon
on
the
call,
but
but
amino
19.
E
and
and
so
he's
here
to
help,
and
he
has
been
helping
and
has
been
creating
a
lot
of
good
first
issue
issues.
So
we
should.
We
should
do
more
of
that.
Okay,
anyway,
I'll
I'll
stop.
But,
like
you
know
what
a
great
event,
what
a
good
way
to
get
some
fresh
blood
in
and
a
good
way
to
help
others.
A
A
So
you
can
check
that
out
as
well
and
since
there
are
a
lot
of
maintainers
here
like
this
in
this
year,
maintenance
can
also
participate
in
hacktoberfest,
so
it
would.
It
would
depend
that
basically,
you
have
to
approve
pr's
hacktoberfest
approach
prs
and
that
would
go
on
and
add
to
your
your
tally,
I
guess
and
yeah.
So
basically,
maintenance
can
also
participate
all
right.
A
Announcement
is
on
kubecon,
so
measuring
and
service
mesh
performance
are
two
projects
that
came
out
of
the
layer
5
community,
both
of
which
are
now
cncf
projects.
So
we
will
be.
We
will
be
having
project
office
servers
and
project
showcases
at
this
year's
kubecon
plus
cloud
native
account.
So
it's
on
it's
in
two
weeks,
so
we
have
so
yeah.
Basically,
we
have
some
opportunity.
E
Yeah,
it's
just
it's
just
a
quick.
So
so
it's
just
a
quick
call
for
anyone.
That's
here
and
is
interested
in
doing
things
around
the
kubecon
drop.
Your
name
into
you
know,
drop
a
note
in
slack.
Please
don't
do
it
privately,
but
drop
a
note
in
slack
or
drop
your
name
here
or
but
there's
a
lot
of
stuff
for
us
to
do,
and
so
you're
all
welcome
to
go
represent
again
like
whether
you're,
whether
you're
contributing
code
or
not.
That's
not.
E
The
I
feel
like
I
just
have
to
repeat
that
every
so
often
so
yeah
so
so
good.
So
there
aren't
detail
like
like.
I
promise
that
that
will
send
out
details
of
what
those
specific
opportunities
are,
but
just
in
general,
if
you
think
you're
going
to
be
around
and
want
to
you
know,
hang
out
and
be
affiliated
with
the
project
or
tell
people
about
their
projects.
A
So
with
that,
let's
get
on
to
the
topics
for
today
so
ashley
mentioned
we
have
a
mescheri
v0.6
release
coming
up,
so
we
just
wanted
to
get
some
status
on
where
we
are
to
the
release
so
megna
like.
Could
you
give
an
update
on
the
blog
post?
That
is
like
how
many
posts
have
been
completed
and
what
still
remains.
F
Yes
sure
so
the
update
is
pretty
much
what
was
because
we
need
people's
people
and
for
the
41.
Second,
the
the
filters
are
predictors
applications
and
dynamic
management
ui.
So
in
those
areas
we
need
people
in
to
write
logos
in
the
future
that
require
some
review.
F
If
you
go
to
the
main,
the
first,
the
desktop
that's
here.
E
Great
just
to
repeat
this
really
quick,
so
we've
got
a
big
release
of
measuring
coming
up
we're
gonna,
announce
that
you
know
coat
concurrently
with
kubecon
and
there's.
A
lot
of
features
that
have
come
in.
A
lot
of
changes
have
happened
since
the
last
release,
and
so
this
is
a
call
for
people
to
write
about
those
this.
This
writing
can
be
inside
of
mesh
redox.
Docs
can
be
in
blog
posts,
either
your
own
on
a
different
venue
or
on
meshri.io
or
on
layer5.io.
E
F
The
ones
that
I'm
asked
that
we
needed,
we
got
those
three
and
I
think,
one
of
the
sashies
or
mummies
one
is
also
done.
I
commented
there
navindu
was
going
to
like
I
asked
naveen
that
she
could.
You
know,
review
that
one.
So
there
are
like
four
articles
that
are
really
which
need
to
be
reviewed
and
yeah.
I
think
that
was.
E
F
E
Just
by
the
way
on
that
subject,
by
the
way,
just
like
actually
this
right
here,
if
you
all,
are
seeing
layer
five
io
site,
there
have
been
over
a
couple
hundred
people
that
have
contributed
to
the
site,
which
is
fantastic,
the
main
banner
on
the
the
main
page.
When
you
go
to
layer,
5.
io
that
banner
it'll
actually
rotate,
there's
two
different
banners.
So
if
you
refresh
it
should
go
back
to
the
other
one
they're
pretty
similar,
they
basically
say
the
same
thing.
It's
just
two
different
graphics.
E
I've
been
told
by
one
of
our
collaborating
partners
with
by
hpe
that
they've
been
a
few
hpe
visitors
that
will
come
to
the
site
and
and
they're
they're
super
lazy
about,
I
think,
visiting
the
site.
Their
feedback
was
they
didn't
know
that
measuring
was
a
project
like
the
the
main
project
that
we
focus
on.
They
didn't
know
that
it
was
here,
it's
like
well,
okay
and
so
the
feedback,
and
so
the
one
of
the
things
as
we
go
to
invite
more
users
to
try
out
mesh
read.
Oh,
I
guess,
there's
three,
that's
great!
E
A
Yes,
we
also
have
a
couple
of
pending
features,
so
one
of
the
most
needed
changes
to
switch
switch
to
helm,
charts
in
measuring
settings
so
switch
from
kubernetes
is
manifest
file
to
helm
charts.
So
darren
was
working
on
this
and
he
mentioned
that
there
are
some
issues
with
the
hamlet
chart,
so
maybe
darren-
if
you
could
talk
about
it
here,
yeah.
G
Yeah
so,
first
of
all
I
need
to
apologize.
I
didn't
really
have
you
know
like
a
lot
of
time
working
on
this,
but
in
the
in
my
limited
time
I
did
manage
to
update
the
mastery
ctr
to
use
the
hem
shots,
but
then
I
found
out
there
are
still
some
issues
in
the
hem
charts
that
are
preventing
me
from
managing
the
resources
via
the
ui.
A
G
E
Briefly,
do
you
it's
possible
that?
E
Well
maybe
you
just
said
this
man,
so
I
apologize
if
that's
the
case,
but
yeah,
it's
possible
that
this
glitch
is
network
service
meshes
issue
like
like
their
helm
chart
has
a
snafu.
G
G
Also
try
some
of
the
others
and
then
it
seems
like
the
service
account
that
we,
but
the
service
account
field
that
we
have
in
the
hem
shot.
Also
not
correct,
because
I
was
seeing
other
arrows
other
than
this
one,
and
then
I
fixed
that
for
the
nsm
and
then
the
so
the
account
error
went
away,
and
then
this
you
know
our
back
arrow
came
up
so
yeah.
But
I
didn't
really
have
time
to
dive
deep
into
fixing
this
object
thing
and
then,
for
all
the
charts
say
the
console.
While
I
was
hitting
some
other
arrows.
G
So
yeah,
it
seems
like
to
me
the
fixing,
the
hamstring
it
might
take
more
time
than
migrating
from
the
manifest
to
the
you
know,
to
use
hamstring,
because
I
did
that
like
fairly
quick.
You
know
in
terms
of
the
code
changes
for
using
the
mesh
kit
api.
Well,
it's
kind
of
like
api,
but
it's
a
function.
G
I
didn't
know
where
it
is.
But
but
what
I
wanted
to
say
is
that
the
changes
that
required
to
use
the
hem
shot.
Wasn't
that
complicated
it
just
you
know,
because
here
we
are
just
putting
all
the
manifest
and
then
in
my
local
testing.
I
just
comment:
you
know
all
of
them
out
and
then
use
one
simple
function
to
replace
it
and
then
just
you
know,
one
simple
command
mastery
system
start
and
then
we
have
the
entire
system.
G
G
Yeah,
because,
in
the
current
time
charts,
I
know
that
we
have
service
account
for
each
adapter,
but
you
know
in
the
manifest
is
not
the
case.
That's
what
I
discovered.
So
let's
say
right
now
we
have
you
know
sales
account
well
change,
nsm,
because
because
that's
what
I
saw
the
manifest
the
nsm
is
using
the
mastery
server.
G
I
guess,
like
all
the
adapters,
they
are
using
the
mastery
server
as
the
service
account
so
that
they
have
the
permission
to
do
certain
operations,
but
in
the
hem
chart
right
now
we
have
you
know
the
the
service
account
for
each
adapters,
which
is
the
reason
why
one
of
the
reasons
why
I
was
not
able
to
do
the
operations
via
the
ui,
so
I
need
to
fix.
You
know
these
for
the
rest
of
the
hamstrings.
So
so
I
fixed
the
one
for
the
nsm.
G
That's
why
I
was
able
to
do
something,
but
the
bad
thing
is
still
preventing
me
from
installing
the
resources
into
the
cluster.
That's
the
part
that
I
need
to
figure
out.
E
Yeah,
by
the
way
we
will
be
doing
a
couple
of
leads
so
and
we
were
there
was
a
collection
of
us
that
were,
I
think,
talking
yesterday
about
or
the
day
before,
about
like
whether
or
not
it
was
the
right
thing
to
do,
to
try
to
get
the
helm
charts
into
this
release
and
the
consensus
ended
up
being
that,
like
we'll,
only
expect
to
have
more
users,
become
kubecon
and
come
you
know,
and
so
like
ripping
the
band-aid
off
now
is
sort
of
what
it
what
it
came
to
and
so
yeah
all
right,
so
yeah.
E
This
is
great.
It's
very
encouraging
to
see
that
you're
on
the
case
and
I'm
too
by
the
way
like
I
know
that
you've
interacted
with
husseina
before
and
with
piyush
and
a
bunch
of
other
people,
but
husseina
and
piyush
are
two
of
the
individuals
who
are
and
the
vendor
maybe
like
have
been
consistently
the
most
dedicated
toward
that
component.
Mastery
cto,
so
you
know,
get
doing
it
yeah,
just
in
case
collaboration
is
helpful.
H
You
hear
me
yes,
hi,
it's
michael
here
when
I
was
testing
recently,
I
had
the
same
or
a
similar
sort
of
service
account
issue
when
I
was
installing
istio
using
so
the
adapter
which
is
using
histo
ctl,
and
so
what
I
did
was
then
just
to
to
create
a
what
you
called
roll
binding
binding.
This
system
service
accounts
measurey
to
cluster
admin,
but
I
wonder
what
is
sort
of
what
is
the?
H
That
we
should
implement-
or
that
has
been
discussed
you
know-
should-
should
the
the
user
of
measurey
actually
set
up
the
access
so
that
measuring
can
gets
the
necessary
access
or
is
that
included
somewhere
and
measuring
control
or
the
manifest
would
create
the
correct
role
bindings
as
well.
H
E
E
And
darren
can
attest
that
I've
proven
to
be
something
of
an
ignoramus
here
or,
like
I
have
I,
for
my
part
personally,
I
haven't
spent
a
ton
of
time
with
helm.
It
is
the
goal
that
yeah.
That
is
that,
like
ideally,
you
know
that,
ideally,
the
helm,
charts
deployments
are
configurable
that
people
might
opt
to
just
that
they
can
deploy
components
of
mesh
a
la
carte,
but
that
yeah
there
would
be
a
single
service
account
to
rule
them
all
that
that
all
of
them
would
use
and
that
yeah
the
ideally
the
name
space.
E
The
service
account
the
custom
resource
definitions,
the
custom
resources
themselves,
like
the
yeah
that
all
of
that's
captured
in
the
chart
charts.
So
there
will
be
one
chart
per
component.
I
don't
know
that
any
of
this
is
written
down
necessarily
like,
but
this
doesn't,
unless
I'm
misunderstanding,
the
ecosystem
around
helm
and
helm
charts.
This
approach
doesn't
deviate
or
is
aligned
with
it's
consistent
with
other
installs
top
level
chart
subcharts
individually,
we're
automatically
building
the
charts
with
each
release.
E
We're
not
bothering
with
the
individual
versioning
of
helm,
charts
separate
from
the
measuring
release
version
itself
like
we
could
have
built
an
intelligence
that
says
don't
rev
the
version
number
of
the
charts
like
they
carry
their
own
life
cycle
and
lifespan.
It's
like
look.
We
went
through
that,
I
think
with
rudolfo.
Was
there
we
kind
of
went
through
like
it's
just
like
why,
like
version
numbers
are
cheap,
let's
just
keep
it
consistent
with
the
mesh
free
server,
and
so
that's
the
current
process.
E
E
Which,
by
the
way,
I
think
we
have
an
f
out
there
as
an
f
rating
in
terms
of
security
that
might
have
improved
recently
as
rude
rocks,
took
us
from
a
ubuntu
base
image
to
something
much
much
smaller
to
an
alpine.
It's
we
might.
Maybe
we
have
a
d
now
I
don't
know,
but
they're
in
lie.
The
extent
of
my.
E
But
okay,
and
so
why
the
push
toward
helm
is
like
a
couple
of
reasons,
one
we're
just
we're
killing
ourselves
with
trying
to
bend
over
backwards
to
support
all
the
ways
to
install
meshri
and
all
the
platforms
to
install
it
on
there's
a
lot
of
upkeep.
We
get
bugs
in
this
one
bugs
in
that
one
we
want
to
try
to
focus
it
on
one
helm
is
the
tool
that
we're
using
more
you
know
most
ubiquitously
for
installing
the
service
meshes
themselves.
E
Hopefully,
at
some
point
the
words
out
of
my
mouth
would
be
different.
I
would
be
saying
we
have
a
competency
with
helm,
so
that
would
be
great,
but
then
also
there's
a
there's.
This
matter
of
dependencies
when
you
deploy
like
mesherie
and
its
operator
and
the
rest
of
its
components,
bringing
these
up
in
in
sequential
order
can
be
helpful
and
can
be
something
that
helm
facilitates.
E
G
E
Know,
like
that's
a
great
question
yeah
I
see
I
I'm
a
I'm
a
weak
individual
in
this
regard
like
like
it's
really
tough
to
tell
a
user.
No,
although
there's
a
lot
of
importance
to
having
that
strength,
sometimes
you'll
lose
a
user
because
they're
like
look,
that's
what
we
use.
So
we
don't
use
home.
We
don't
like
it.
We
don't
whatever
the
reason
right
they
want
to
use
and
but
you're
you
might
lose
a
user
but
you're
able
to
be
more
efficient
and
have
higher
quality
software
if
you're.
E
On
wednesday,
it's
a
great
example:
darren,
there's,
a
and
michael
is
involved
in
this
as
well.
There's
a
docker
captain,
his
name's
luke
chuggery,
he's
french
for
whatever
that
matters.
Just
so
you
guys
get
to
know
him
he's
a
real
nice
guy.
He
had
made
a
an
installer
using
ubuntu
canonical's
multi-pass,
so
he
made
it
a
vm
based
as
a
vm
centric
installer,
so
that
you
can
quickly
spin
up
a
vm
and
spin
up
kubernetes
and
spin
up
mesherie,
and
the
question
to
the
community
was
like
on
the
surface
of
it.
E
It's
like!
Well,
that's
fantastic!
Like
that's
great
there's,
there's
been
users.
Who've
asked
for
that
kind
of
a
thing
like
they
didn't
want
to
bring
their
own
kubernetes.
They
wanted
measuring
to
bring
their
kubernetes,
but
and
yet
on
the
flip
side-
and
you
know
no
feature-
is
for
free,
and
so
there
will
be
bugs
in
the
script
that
he
has
and
then
there
will
be
ongoing.
Sustaining
of
that,
and
so
the
question
was
like
gosh:
how
do
we?
E
How
do
we
uplift
and
support
embrace
what
he's
done,
but
also
signal
to
the
community
that,
like
you
know,
like
maybe
you'll,
get
some
help?
E
E
G
G
You
know
how
we
can
install
the
customer
resources
into
the
cluster
and
then
the
way
that
they
do
just
they
just
use
the
plain
manifest
as
we
use
in
the
you
know
in
the
mastery
ctl,
but
in
terms
of
the
the
installation
of
the
entire
system.
I
barely
see
people
use
playing
manifest.
To
be
honest,
like
I
think,
like
90
of
you
know
all
the
cloud
native
projects
they
use,
hem,
charts
and
then
probably
the
the
rest
of
them.
They
use
other
ways,
but
not
too
many
projects
use
plain
manifest.
E
So,
but
that
that
falls
in
line
with
the
thinking
and
that's
good
if
there's
a
couple
of
projects,
even
in
the
service
mesh
space,
that
these
projects
have
been
really
late,
coming
and
providing
a
helm
chart
or
they
had
had
a
helm
chart
tried
to
be
rid
of
it
and
just
say
just
use
the
project
cli
to
install
it
and
they
were
met
with
complaints
and
so
to
your
point.
E
Yeah
helm
has
become
as
a
matter
of
fact,
the
nsm
project.
Here
this
network
service,
they
didn't,
have
a
helm
chart
until
we
were
pushing
on
them
to
create
one.
E
G
G
E
Yeah,
that's
what
yeah
they're
in
sandboxing
yeah,
the
oh,
but
to
your
point
like
it
didn't
really
matter,
I
mean
to
your
point:
they've
been
in
the
same
phase
for
a
little
while
yeah
they
had
slowed
on
their
releases
like
the
last
release
date.
That's
a
long
time
ago,
I
don't
know.
I
talked
to
those
maintainers
with
some
regularity,
actually
so
nikolov.
E
E
I
think
some
of
the
individuals
that
were
on
it
are
great
incubators
and
perhaps
didn't
find
individuals
with
a
sustaining
focus.
So
I
don't
know
I
don't
want
to.
E
I'll
also,
I
don't
know
this-
is
the
network
engineers
service
mesh
for
sure,
like
the
there's,
a
super
there's
a
I
hate
this,
like
I
don't
say
this
that
often
because
because
I
don't
consider
it
true
that
often
but
the
but
ed
dreiss,
I
just
invited
him
to
be
a
co-chair
with
me
on
cncf's
technical
advisory
group
for
and
he
he
I
think
his
iq
is
higher
than
mine.
G
E
Having
said
that,
I
would
say
that
the
nsm
architecture
is
like
entirely
unimpressive
to
me.
It's
entirely
bass
backwards,
ass
backwards
of
service
provider,
centric
orchestration,
it's
like
it's
just
tiresome
to
look
at
it's
great.
The
performance
is
fantastic,
but
but
it
but
yeah,
but
it's
a
different
breed.
G
To
the
yeah
this
light
pending
feature,
I
think
I
still
need
some
time
diving
deep
into
the
the
permission
thing
so
that
I
can
fix
the
well
hopefully
this
time
I
can
fix
the
like
all
the
issues
in
the
hem
shirts,
because
there
are
a
lot
of
them.
You
know
a
lot
of
sub
charts
that
you
cannot
well
it's
it's
really
like
a
lot
to
fix.
If
you
look
try
to
fix
like
all
of
them
in
like
at
once,
but
yeah,
I
will
try
to
look
into
the
commission
thing.
E
G
A
Related
to
that
for
v06,
we
were
planning
to
switch
the
default
platform
to
kubernetes.
So.
G
E
F
A
Yep
asish,
would
you
like
to
provide
an
update
on
the
yeah
yeah,
see
it
content.
I
So
currently
we
have,
I
mean
currently
we
don't
see
any
applications
inside
of
the
for
for
the
local
providers.
So
if
you
open
open
this,
if
you
hit
this
end
point
you'll
get
no
applica,
no
applications
there.
This
is
after
the
vr,
so
the
what
my
pr
will
changes
will
have
few
applications
inside
of
seated
inside
of
measuring,
but
they
would
be
seated
depending
upon
what,
if
that
application
can
currently
be
handled
by
an
adapter
or
kubernetes,
for
example.
I
Right
now
I
have
three
applications
inside
of
my
seat
content
yeah,
one
of
them
can
be
handled
by
istio.
The
other
one
is
machine
native.
It's
a
part
of
the
core
component,
and
this
one
is
this
kubernetes
native.
So
it's
so
it's
a
type
is
service
dot
gates.
So
as
when
the
machine
server
starts
up,
it
registers
its
local
capability.
I
So
we
can
only
support
this
one
and
after
and
when
the
machine
server
starts
up
it
and
whenever
a
kubernetes
context
gets
connected,
then
that
kubernetes
api
server
also
registers
its
own
capabilities.
So
after
I
have
started
after
I
started
the
server
I
can.
I
can
see
here
only
the
machine
native
component
only
the
application
that
can
be
handled
by
machine
now.
If
I,
if
I
go
ahead
and
basically
start
an
adapter
whenever
an
adapter
starts,
it
also
registers
its
own
capabilities.
I
So
if
I
start
the
ht
adapter,
it
will
tell
the
question
server
that
hey
I
can
handle.
I
can
handle
few
applications
as
well,
so
I'll
just
wait
for
it,
okay,
so
so
it
should
be.
I
Okay,
so
now,
if
I
reload
this
page
yeah
so
now,
I
can
see
the
the
application
that
can
be
handled
by
skew
and
after
the
and
and
still
still,
the
kubernetes
components
haven't
been
registered
as
soon
as
the
kubernetes
component
get
registered.
I
I
will
be
able
to
see
the
the
service
pattern
yeah
this
application
as
well
here
and
it's
taking
a
little
time,
because
my
ram
is
kind
of
popped
up,
so
so
yeah
that
that's
the
that's
the
update
on
my
side.
I
So
what
happens
is
that
every
time
a
component
gets
registered,
the
logic
works
in
a
way
that
it
will
go
inside
this
folder
iterate
over
all
of
the
applications
and
the
applications
that
haven't
been
seeded
and
it
will
check
using
a
sharp
that
is
a
new
field
instead
of
the
application
struct
and
at
the
application
that
have
not
been
seated,
it
will
use
the
three
existing
stages
to
check
if
that
application
can
be
supported
at
this
moment
in
time.
I
If,
yes,
then
it
will
be
displayed,
it
will
be,
basically
it
will
be
pushed
onto
the
it
will
be
pushed
onto
the
database
and
you
you.
We
would
be
able
to
see
it
here.
I
That's
the
issue:
it
takes
sometimes
too
much
time
so
basically
yeah.
That
was
the
that
was
the
update
from
my
side.
So
if
anyone
has
any
any
feedback
on
it,.
E
E
A
We
we
are
also
adding
this
seeded
seed
content
in
the
remote
provider
as
well.
I
think
we
haven't
started
working
on
it.
So
rudraksha,
like
you,
can
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
so
basically
we
will
be
adding
a
similar
seed
content
in
a
remote
provider
as
well.
A
All
right,
so
I
guess
we'll
be
adding
it
soon
all
right.
Thank
you,
rudraksha.
A
Thank
you,
ashish,
next
up
michael,
would
you
like
to
give
a
feedback
on
the
mesh
map
alpha
program
just
to
give
a
quick
context
to
others?
Mesh
map
is
a
new
feature
that
we
will
be
supporting
in
measuring,
and
I
guess
we
will
be
talking
about
it
at
kubecon,
so
mesh
map
had
an
alpha
program
and
michael
was
one
of
the
first
people
to
sign
up
for
it.
So,
yes,
over
to
you,
michael.
E
Michael,
let
me
say
a
couple
of
things
in
in
case
you
or
or
do
you
feel
comfortable
speaking
to
this?
If
not,
I
was
just
going
to
kind
of
regurgitate
some
of
the
things
that
you
had
said.
H
No,
I
can,
you
know,
please
go
ahead
and
then
I
can
sort
of
compliment
if
that's:
okay,
yeah
well.
E
Well,
well,
okay,
so
for
those
that
have
signed
into
mesheri
you'll
you'll
notice
that
it
asks
well
that'll
ask
you
to
sign
in
just
that,
like
you
start
measuring
it
and
it
says
authenticate
and
right
now
there
are
two
active
choices
between
two
different
kinds
of
providers,
as
well
as
what
we
call
these.
E
E
We
also
refer
to
it
as
the
local
provider.
It's
the
same
thing,
there's
an
extension
point
where
you
can
plug
in
other
other
providers,
remote
providers
there
potentially
are
any
number
of
remote
providers.
E
There
have
been
more
than
one
in
the
past.
Some
of
them
are
disabled.
When
you'll
see
in
the
drop
down
the
one
that's
standing
there
today,
it's
called
mescheri,
or
also
it's
synonymous
with
sri
cloud
providers-
can
do
a
lot
of
different
things.
Measuring
is
an
extensible
platform.
I
will
also
send
a
picture
of
what
the
extensible
platform
looks
like
as
a
matter
of
fact
I'll.
Do
it
now
I'm
not
going
to
digress
too
much,
but
so
suffice
to
say,
th,
there's
a
mesh
has
extension
points
and
you
can
drop
in
custom
code.
E
You
can
plug
in
code
to
augment
the
behavior
of
measuring,
so
there's
a
collection
there's
a
large
collection
of
you
that
have
both
worked
on
mesh
recloud
as
a
remote
provider
and
also
worked
on
one
extension
specifically
called
mesh
map.
Since
a
visual,
visual
topology
and
so
mesh
map
is
somewhere
between
alpha
and
beta.
E
Michael
in
this
case
has
a
trust
as
a
maintainer
of
measuring
and
someone
who
gives
great
feedback
and
is
thoughtful
with
it
and
has
some
amount
of
patience
and,
and
all
that
and
so
he'd
gone
in
and
given
it
a
whirl
michael
with
that
I'll
try
to
bring
it
up
as
a
backdrop.
But
if
you
have
other
things.
H
I
can't
it
doesn't
really
work,
but
that's
that's
yeah.
That's
an.
H
E
Wait
and
say
more:
is
it
that
you
don't
see
this
this
link.
H
H
Then
it
says
unknown
error
404
not
found
I'm
going
to
click
on
mesh
map,
I'm
not
quite
sure
what
it
yeah
where
it
originates.
I
mean
this
right.
I
switched
context
from
testing
for
the
o60
with
the
stable
to
to
mesh
map
context
which,
in
general,
works
really
nicely
as
part
of
the
v06
test,
switching
context
and
stuff.
E
Yeah,
I
don't
know
that
someone
else
can
maybe
correct
me.
I'm
not
sure
that
edge
that,
if
you're
running
an
edge
release,
I'm
not
sure
what
mesh
map
is
gonna
do
or
if
it'll
be
successful.
H
No
actually,
the
the.
I
think
it
wasn't,
because
I
think
I
was
testing
a
couple
of
days
ago,
so
it
has
to
be,
as
you
said,
the
stable
latest
and
I
haven't
checked
what
happens
when
you
switch
context.
It's
interesting
when
I
was
testing
a
couple
of
days
ago.
It
it
looked
a
bit
a
lot
better
yeah.
E
H
I
mean
I
have
to
say
I
think
it's
really
impressive,
so
I'm
not
you
know
looking
forward
to
to
the
next
versions
of
of
the
mesh
map.
That's
it's
really
good.
This.
H
And
it's
really.
G
H
Nice
and
doing
being
able
to
do
what
you've
been
doing
now
like
opening
interactive
shell,
which
didn't
I
could
open
it,
but
it
wasn't
interactive
at
least
one
where
I
thought
it
should
be
interactive
like
http,
where
I
know
that
there's
something
so
that
didn't
work,
and
there
were
a
couple
of
other
things.
That
sort
of
like
last
time
I
checked
like
I
did
not
get
the
labels
of
to
all
these
icons.
H
So
that
was
a
bit
weird
and
when
filtering
say
on
namespace,
what
was
the
behavior
was
that
I,
I
guess,
the
pods
that
were,
in
this
time
space
a
bit
like
you're,
showing
now
right
that
the
pots
that
were.
H
H
J
H
That's
really
nice
yeah
and
I
wondered
also
is
there.
I
seem
to
have
sort
of
issues
sometimes
with
firefox.
Is
it
sort
of
like
yeah.
E
For
sure
there
are
issues
with
safari
and
mesh
map
right
now
and
rome
is
the
most
supportive
experience.
B
E
But
but
you're
right
that
this
interactive
terminal
is
currently
this
one
is
currently
dysfunctional.
So
if
you're
trying
to
so
users
and
actually
this
whole,
the
ux
here
is
like
the
way
that
you
can
like
you
can
establish
an
interactive
terminal
session,
which
is
what
this
is
and
I'm
you
know
conceptually
sending
commands
and
receiving
output
right
now,
I'm
able
to
send
commands
but
not
receive
the
output.
E
So
that's
that's
broken
you're
able
to
then
in
the
same
window
switch
to
your
log
ba
your
sessions
that
are
just
doing
logging,
and
I,
for
my
part,
I
think
that
the
ux
is
to
is
get
really
super.
Confused,
like
the
only
thing
that
isn't
confusing
is
the
fact
that
you're
seeing
logs,
but
the
rest
of
it
is
needs
some
love.
E
The
fact
that
you
can
switch
between
logs
and
terminals
anyway.
There's
a
couple
of
contributors
drew
patel
in
specific
who
is
on
the
job
on
the
enter
on.
E
Yeah
yeah,
those
are
it's
all
really
good
feedback.
Actually,
there's.
E
The
one
of
your
pieces
of
feedback
what
and
what
time
is
yeah
we're
just
a
few
minutes
after
it
was
that
like
if
as
you're
working
on
as
you're
designing
something
and
you're
in
here
and
you're,
you
know
really
getting
into
the
thick
of
like.
You
know
configuring
this
stuff
that
I
think
I
think
part
of
the
part
of
the
feedback
was
like
the
font
might
not
be
quite
large
enough,
like
if
I
zoom
back
to
100.
You
know
normal
font
size,
it's
like
yeah
granted.
E
You
could
do
some
things
to
zoom
in
like
that,
but
but
there's
that's,
but
that
was
great
feedback,
because
one
this
thing
is
just
too
small
in
general,
it
needs
to
be
bigger
like
like
this,
this
stuff.
These
things
go
deep,
but
you
can
really
you
know,
and
so
there's
just
better
information
architecture
that
needs
to
happen
so
that
people
can
nav.
E
But
yeah,
I
know,
there's
a
collection
of
folks
who've
been
hard
at
work
for
a
long
time.
H
Just
don't
get
me
wrong,
I
think
it's
really
impressive
and
you
know,
despite.
H
E
There's
a
couple
well
so
yeah.
Thank
goodness!
It's
not
just
me
trying
to
do
it
because
we
wouldn't
have
so
since
we're
talking
about
this.
There
are
michael's
feedback
is
like
is
spot
on,
and
even
the
stuff
that
he
thinks
is
vague
is
actually
is
good.
E
Enough
is
like
hey
you're,
not
paying
attention
to
firefox
and
like
if
you
go
use,
firefox
you'll
it'll
be
evident,
what's
broken
like
that,
but
so
for
a
couple
of
others
or
there's
a
sign
up
sheet,
rather
that
aditya
chatterjee
might
share
for
others
that
might
be
interested
in
poking
around
there.
There
are,
there
are
bugs.
So
if
you
do
want
to
play
with
it,
you
know
please
be
aware
you
have
to
bring
your
patience
with
you,
but
that
doesn't
mean
you
shouldn't
complain.
E
H
And
I
think
one
one
thing
which
could
be
really
useful
is
how
how
can
you
reset
the
local
experience
so
that
you
know,
maybe
you
know
some
cache
somewhere
or
something
in
the
browser
is
no
messing
up
things.
How
can
you
reset
the
whole
the
whole
experience
of
the
whole
testing?
H
E
Yeah,
but
totally
it
had
been
previously,
it
had
been
pretty
pretty
confusing
that
wouldn't
and
even
now
I
still
need
it
still
needs
more
improvement.
There
are
three
things
I
think
three
things
that
there's
a
few
things
that
go
on,
so
one
is
if
you're
told
if
you're
like
geez,
I
don't
you
know,
you
know
what
let
me
just.
Let
me
just
stay
inside
of
this
one
that
I'm
calling
testing
on
istio
is
maybe
what
I'm
calling
it
and
like.
E
Let
me
just
I'm
going
to
stay
inside
this,
this
mesh
map,
this
design,
I'll
just
you
know,
do
what
michael
just
said
I'll
just
you
know
start
from
scratch
that
that's
one
thing:
that's
now
you
know
better
facilitated
for
staying
in
the
same
design.
Another
thing
that's
better
facilitated
for
is
like.
Maybe
this
design
is
fine.
Okay,
that's
all
I
wanted.
I
want
to
go
ahead
and
start
a
new
one.
So
let
me
initiate
an
untitled
design
new
one,
there's
a
bug
right
now,
where
it's
not.
E
It
is
creating
a
new
one,
but
it's
leaving
the
old
name.
So
that's
that's
a
but
conceptually
that's
how
that
should
work.
Another
thing
that
should
be
happening
is
well
that
yeah
that
you
can
just
rename
the
existing
without
creating
a
new
design.
You
can
just
rename
the
existing
one.
Great
another
thing
that
to
michael's
point
like
if
you're,
really
in
here
and
you're,
taking
your
time
to
design
this
out
and
get
it
like,
you
want
certain
guarantees
about.
E
You
really
want
in
part
what
michael
was
describing
about
versioning
like
the
ability
you
want
to
a
a
virtual
clipboard
at
minimum,
a
stack
to
like
keep
track
of
all
of
your
changes
and
kind
of
go
back
in
history
and
right
now
there's
a
kind
of
poor
man's
version
of
this,
which
is
well
there
was
there
we
we
yeah.
There
was
an
undo
button
like
there's
a
couple
of
different
types
of
undues
that
need
to
happen.
E
There's
a
global
undo
at
the
canvas
level
that
needs
to
be
tracked
and
then
there's
a
and
then
there's
a
maybe
undo
just
specific
to
that
node,
because
maybe
you
were
really
deep
in
the
configuration.
Maybe
you
just
want
to
affect
just
this
and
so
yeah
yeah.
E
Fair
enough,
so
we
gosh
we're
over
time.
Man
of
oh,
you
know
one
quick
thing
guys
it's
on
the
s
p
call
we've
got
pending
google's
legal
team
and
their
review.
E
We've
got
jacob
who's
last
jacob
mamac
will
be
presenting
on
the
smp
call
about
nighthawk,
so
we're
gonna
be
doing
some
c,
plus
plus
things
in
that
load
generator,
and
so
just
put
that
on
your
calendars
and
it'll,
be
a
good
session.
He's
he's
a
bit
nervous,
I
think
so,
just
a
good
briefly!
Monav.
Are
you
still
here
and
did
you
want
to
talk
about
this.
E
Nice,
okay,
good
you're,
cleaning
up
drew's
work
like
his,
I
I'm
joking.
Actually
this
was
this
was
here.
This
has
been
here
since
the
start
of
mastery
like
it's
pre-drove,
but
but
dhruv
patel
had
focused
in
this
area
some.
So
it
sounds
like
so
take
it
away
like
you're
capturing
the
fact
that
there
are
undefined
columns
in
the
data
and
then
handling
that
gracefully
is
that
the.
J
J
E
A
Yep
see
you,
everyone
see
you
next
week.