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A
A
A
I'm
half-tempted
to
start
the
call
early
without
as
many
folks
just
to
be
able
to
make
it
through
some
topics.
So
what
one
topic
is
that
which
is
the
notion
of
projects
or
project
tracking
project
management,
issue,
tracking
I'm,
afraid
even
Canada,
be
even
really
open
yourself
for
discussion,
because
it's
kind
of
an
opinionated
dating
it's
an
area
where
we
do
need
to
get
organized
in
a
good
way.
There
are
enough
people
consistently
showing
up
that,
and
the
project
is
large
enough
with
enough
going
on.
A
That
can
be
hard
for
everyone
to
be
aware
of
all
of
the
happenings.
So
let
me
say
that
this
is
on.
On
my
mind,
I
mean
it's
something
that
I
probably
get
getting
getting.
Some
opinions
expressed
on
would
probably
be
good
in
the
past.
The
tool
that
we
had
gone
to
use
to
assist
with
this
had
been
using
github
projects,
because
most
of
the
things
that
we're
tracking
in
the
community
to
do
are
generally
tracked
as
an
issue
also
because
it's
free
and
part
of
you
know
it's
right
next
to
the
code.
A
A
couple
of
reasons
why
I
had
literally
turn
this
off?
Some
time
ago
is
it
can
be
hard
enough
to
get
people
to
including
myself
right
like
to
write
up
a
good,
a
decent
issue
to
do
that,
diligence
to
then
on
top
of
that
track
their
issue
and
progress
it
through
various
stages
and
then
to
do
any
amount
of
planning
about
what
that
release
would
look
like
or
what
that
said,
it
features
would
look
like,
and
those
are
all
good
activities
to
do.
It's
just
that
in
the
past
we
really
haven't.
A
Had
it's
been
us
you're,
trying
to
create
a
community
and
trying
to
get
people
involved
and
taking
what
we
could
when
we
could
so
maybe
now
is
the
time
to
bring
it
now
is
the
time
to
brings
some
level
of
organization.
My
thinking
my
thought
process,
there
had
been
that
that
were
to
a
point
now
in
the
community,
where
we're
at
least
having
a
few
themes,
people
focused
on
a
couple
of
areas.
A
A
A
Say
guys,
the
topic
that
we
were
quickly
quickly
chatting
about
is
that
the
topic
of
the
the
well
of
project
in
the
issue
tracking,
in
a
very
good
way,
we're
busy
enough
in
the
project
that
some
of
this
can
would
be
helpful.
A
few
folks
have
said,
they're
not
sure
who's
working
on
what
and
there's
enough
repositories
that
can
be,
if
you're
not
being
diligent
about
the
queries
that
you're
using
in
github.
You
might
just
be
looking
at
just
the
mastery
repo
we
can
I'm
missing
out
on
other
other
activities
in
the
past.
A
In
the
past
that
we've
been,
you
know,
sometimes
it's
hard
enough
to
get
people
to
even
describe
an
issue
well
much
less
come
back
and
track
an
issue
over
its
life
cycle.
Much
less
have
enough
people
showing
up
consistently
to
like
plan
a
release
in
Deraa
release.
So
so
we've
used
one
of
these
in
the
past,
but
I
turned
it
down
I
recently,
I
just
turned
it
back
on
this
morning.
A
A
This
leads
into
a
bit
more
governance
about
the
project.
It's
also
been
something
that,
in
a
very
happy
way,
we're
finally
to
a
point
where
there
have
been,
and
there
are
a
number
of
people
wearing
maintainer,
x',
maintainer
hats,
but
we're.
Finally,
to
a
point
where
I
really
like
to
clarify
what
those
roles
are,
what
the
expectations
of
a
maintainer
is.
A
Hopefully,
we
can
also
get
into
a
little
bit
of
release.
Planning
to
survive.
Right
now
is
is
essentially
that
is
taking
on
the
role
of
the
release
lead
for
this
next
0.4
release,
and
so
what
does
that
mean
to
be
released,
lead
and
what
activities
are
involved
in
Steve
I
know
you're
over
that
she's,
just
so
so
much
backlog
on
community
and
process
and
documentation
around
it.
A
A
It
also
I
think
requires
a
particular
personality
folks,
who
it
requires
diligence
either
either
an
individual
to
code,
shepherd
issues
and
curates
the
backlog
continuously
or
each
individual
contributor
to
be
diligent
with
how
it
is
that
they're
tracking
things
I,
don't
think
that
the
latter
will
happen.
I,
don't
think
that
I
think
that
they
will
have
a
smaller
community.
The
more
of
that
minutia
is
put
on
the
contributors.
B
I
had
just
one
email,
a
basic
discussion
idea
that
I
was
trying
to
pretend
that
you
know
we
have
the
community
page
on
the
layer,
5
epsilon
the
Machine
website
right,
so
all
of
the
people
who
join
the
organization
and
sort
of
contributed
little.
They
are
added
to
the
contributors
page.
So
what
I
believe
is
that
we
can.
You
know
like
to
give
those
people
who
have
been
working
really
hard.
You
know
for
the
past
few
months
on
the
project.
B
B
So
if
we
go
right
now
to
the
yeah
to
the
community
members
page
right,
so
if
we
can
have,
you
know
like
sort
of
like
distinction,
so
people
who
have
been
contributing
the
most
they
can
come
up
up
and
they
can
be
in
the
section
for
the
maintainer
so
like
right
now,
she's
like
it
saves
maintainer
right
so
to
give
them
more
credibility.
We
can
just
have
that
distinction
on
the
website
itself,
that
that
is
like
very
one,
very
small
part
in
which
we
can
sort
of
give
them
a
distinction.
Yes,
they
have
been
convinced.
A
If
I
I
totally
agree,
this
is
a
part
one
I
haven't
supported
by
part
of
the
conversation
around
organising
release,
organizing
a
little
bit
roadmap.
Organizing
the
issue
tracking
is
like
well
there's
a
little
bit
of
a
cheeky
for
the
egg,
because
you'd
like
to
have
ideally
have
roles
described
and-
and
this
has
been
something
that
I've
been
promising
to
hey
sous
for
like
I,
don't
know
three
months,
I
think
and
so
I
get
shivaya
they
more
than
agree
to
the
extent
that
there
are
small
badges
that
go
with
that
incorrectly.
That
would
be
nice.
A
There
need
to
be,
and
there
needs
to
be
yep.
It's
a
bit.
I
guess
you
know.
Governance
is
kind
of
word
that
covers
it,
but
if
it
is
what
does
it
mean
to
be
maintainer?
What
is
expected
of
them?
Are
there
are
their
voting
rights
or
are
there
what
was
mean
to
vote
like
just
there's
a
lot
to
that?
I've
been
excited
that
within
the
scenes.
A
Yes,
we
believe
you
know
all
of
the
projects
can
suffer
from
and
this
equally
in
this
regard,
they
suffer
from
things
around
CI
systems,
build
frame,
our
building
test
frameworks,
documentation,
a
sleek
marketing
website,
hey
governor,
are
these
new
project
issue
tracking
and
just
like
all
the
litany
of
the
softer
things
that
aren't
code,
of
which
the
sum
total
of
them
is
far
greater
than
the
code
there's
a
new
contributor
strategy
sig
in
the
sense?
Yes,
that
I'm
hopeful
was
going
to
put
out
some.
A
There's
there's
questions
like
well
what,
if
they
haven't
been
around
for
five
months,
should
they
still
be
up
here?
You
could
argue
it
either.
You
know
any
which
way
hey
just
because
their
contributions
aren't
recent.
Does
that
mean
that
they
weren't
just
as
fantastic?
Now
as
they
were
then,
or
you
know,
there's
a
to
all
kinds
of
that.
A
I
was
really
weary
of
are
leery
of
putting
this
up
in
the
first
place,
because
all
those
things
happen
you
know
a
lot
of
folks
will
push
to
be
up
here
immediately,
even
without
having
done
an
actual
contribution.
Yet
it's
like
well.
You
know,
anyway,
that
the
way
that
it
becomes
I
think
becomes
fair
and
feels
good
is
by
having
the
rules
so
to
speak,
written
down
the
exciting
the
expectations
up
front.
A
Okay,
this
is
generally
how
this
works
and,
from
my
part,
I'm
just
tickled
that
we're
even
having
this
conversation
about,
like
about
people
vying
to
be
up
on
the
site
about
people
desiring
for
maintainer
ship
I,
very
much
so
by
the
way,
for
my
part,
strongly
desire
and
have
been
trying
to
get
people
into
maintainer
roles.
It's
so
very
much
so
needed
for
people
have
a
sense
of
ownership
over
the
project,
not
just
a
sense
of
literal
ownership
for
people
to
have
that
buy-in
to
be
able
to
lead
the
other
areas
to
advance
the
project.
A
In
multiple
parallel
streams,
the
corona
virus
has
been
horrific
to
layer,
five
being
a
funded
entity
that
can
really
help
it
get
off
the
ground.
It's
been
been
really
tragic
in
that
regard.
The
corona
virus
has
been
extraordinarily
helpful,
with
respect
to
there
being
quite
a
few
people
who
have
extra
time
and
I
decided
to
put
that
extra
time
into
the
community,
and
that's
that's
a
beautiful
thing,
I'm
overwhelmed,
and
it
was
the
intention
for
it
to
be
me
anyway.
A
But
now
I
should
just
remember
one
there's
a
few
people
who
are
ready,
maintain
your
health.
We
haven't
clarified
what
it
means
to
I
guess
to
talk
about
the
school,
but
it
further
I
I
considered
that
you
know
I'm.
You
know
once
a
contributor,
always
a
commuter
medication,
whether
it's
gold
or
definitely
taking
or
creep
or
your
prominent
user
you've
been
giving
feedback
or
what
have
you
the
end?
The
test
of
time
there
are
other
other
roles,
being
a
review
being
a
maintainer
being.
A
Released
lead
being
there's
a
bunch
of
girls
that
those
are
probably
a
bit
more
transient
in
matters
whether
or
not
your
present
probably
matters
for
some
of
those,
because
they,
you
know,
you
need
to
be
kind
of
active
in
how
there's
a
lot
of
thought.
There's
a
bunch
of
prior
art
here
on
from
the
kubernetes
project,
from
the
K
native
project,
I've,
been
speaking
with
those.
B
Yeah
I
look
saying
that
in
also
in
regard
to
the
point
that
you
are
raised
for
the
first
discussion
regarding
the
project
management.
So
like
is
it
possible
if
we
are
looking
forward
to
go
for
either
something
like
Trello
or
you
know,
I
mean
we
can
possibly
have
a
look
at
those
as
well.
So
there
are
some
specific
project
management
tools
that
are
specifically
built
around
github.
For
example,
there
is
a
project
management
tool
which
follows
the
agile
framework
and
scrum.
B
So,
since
we'll
be
integrating
the
project
with
such
kind
of
a
management
tool,
it
will
automatically
bring
up
all
the
new
issues
and
pull
requests
are
also
being
created.
So
I
mean
in
in
terms
of
a
Google
sheet,
we'll
have
to
manually
add
the
new.
You
know
the
new
pull
requests
and
the
new
issues
that
have
been
created
and
then
manually
assign
them
on
the
Google
sheet.
B
So
if
it
has
been
done
automatically
by
a
third-party
service,
so
the
only
problem
will
be
that
if
you
have
to
pay
because
like
in
limited
for
a
limited
or
a
free
here,
I
guess
it
won't
have
like
more
than
five
or
ten
people
who
can
work
at
the
same
time
or
something.
So
if
you
want,
we
can
have
a
look
at
a
project
measurement
tool
specifically
built
for
github
right.
A
Yeah
I
buy
those
are
all
great
points.
I
totally
agree.
Yeah
I
should
have
clarified
that
what
I
was
saying
Gugu
she
what
I,
what
I
meant
was
much
more
of
a
static
listing,
just
to
say,
should
I
you
eye
or
whatever
like
it
should
I
management.
Ui
is
something
that
was
relatively
static.
Long
lived
in
nature
that
that
was
sort
of.
If
you
wanted
to
talk
about
that
area,
your
ship
eyes
will
focus
there
or
that's
kind
of
his.
A
But
yeah
did
you
do
any
other,
so
so
Trello
is
certainly
a
tool
that
I'm
intimately
familiar
with
it's
a
tool
that
I've
seen
the
openshift
team
use
in
tracking
their
their
open-source
project.
I
do
understand
it
has
any
number
of
integrations
than
that.
Those
integrations
are
limited
by
free
tier
usage.
A
I
do
understand
that
github
has
been
making
progress
on
like
on
its
project
boards
and
that
one
of
the
attractive
things
to
a
project
board
for
github
is
that
you
can
create
that
project
board
at
an
org
level,
which
is
yeah
because
we
have
so
many
I
mean
it
would
be
nice
to
be
able
to
use
the
native
thing.
Or
you
know
the
things
that
are
native
to
the.
Where
would
the
work
is
being
done?.
C
A
D
A
There's
no
small
component
that
you
didn't
say
but
I
would
I
would
I
would
attack
on,
and
that
is
that
it's
important
to
me
that
the
posterity
of
the
works
that
the
community
does
is
maintained
that
there's
a
historical
reference
for
things
that
people
have
done
so
that
you
can.
You
know
any
number
of
years
from
now
point
back
and
say:
yeah.
You
know
here.
I
was
part
of
this
here
with
my
contributions,
those
Republic.
A
Something
like
this
to
say
that
hey
there
are
some
long-lived
functional
areas
that
measure
II
is
that
that
people
within
the
the
community
are
focused
on,
and
here
is
whether
it
was
individual
parallel
streams
like
individual
working
groups
that,
if
there's
a
like
in
here
in
the
metric
community,
there's
one
for
performance
management
whole
set
of
topics
around.
That
is
one
for
configuration
management,
so
a
whole
set
of
topics
around
that.
Maybe
maybe
mesh
sync.
A
A
You
know
it
used
to
be
the
case
that
the
individual
tech
leads
were
listed
here
as
well.
I
think
that
that's
been
updated,
it
points
out.
That's
like
where's,
the
corresponding
slack
channel
where's.
The
meeting
minutes
for
that
where's
the
link
to
join
that
weekly
call.
You
know
like
yeah
as
we
go
to
in
a
good
way
we're
at
a
point
by
which
we
need
to
scale
the
community,
at
least
by
one
call
at
least.
A
We
try
to
have
them
say
include
keywords
like
this
PR
fixes
issue
number
such
as
such
so
that
the
issue
auto
closes
same
thing
here
for
automating
a
bit
of
the
workflow
I
think
you
can
have
github
automatically
move
any
issue
from,
like
the
the
to-do
column
to
the
in
progress
column
when
it's
assigned
or
when
when
something
happens,
is
this
a
point
of
interest
for
anyone
on
the
call?
Would
anyone
like
to
you
maybe
take
a
stab
it.
A
Create
a
project
border
you've
got
the
right
access
and
things
to
do
that
so,
okay,
nice!
Well,
that
was
one
topic.
One
of
the
other
topics
we'd
had
was,
and
the
poor
was
going
to
chat
about
updating,
massery
CTL,
the
command-line
interface
and
the
challenge
that
we're
having
with
the
bash
script
right
now
funny
that
Nick
is
on
because
Nick
is
leading
a
project
that
it
has
a
very
well
done
installer.
A
So
the
topic
here
is
that
there's
a
CLI,
it's
just
it's
a
metric
CTL,
it's
built
using
the
Cobra
framework.
There's
a
sub
command
called
update
in
Mary
CTL
that
update
command
will
reach
out
docker
hub
and
pull
down
any
new
images
for
any
of
the
measuring
containers.
That's
good!
What
it
doesn't
do,
though,
is
it
doesn't
self
update,
meaning
if
there's
a
new
version
of
Mary
CTL
when
you
run
the
update
command,
it
doesn't
update
Mary
CTL
in
place.
A
D
All
person
say:
I've,
been
I've,
been
doing
a
little
bit
of
thinking
about
this
problem,
because
I
mean
exactly
the
same
problem
with
sort
of
one
of
my
project
and
and
kind
of
what
I'm
thinking
around
the
update
process
is
somehow
to
to
tag
how
the
binary
was
installed.
So,
for
example,
if
you
installed
it
more
brew
to
somehow
like
can't
brew
to
drop
a
file
or
something
I
don't
know
like,
but
but
basically
then,
with
the
update
command.
What
I'm
thinking
is
you?
D
Around
kind
of
mesh
degrees,
sort
of
CTL
or
just
kind
of
the
installers,
you
can't
just
overwrite
the
binary,
but
I
know
that
the
likes
of
brew
will
twist
and
complain
because
it'll
be
like
hey.
You've
got
this
binary
and
this
is
not
the
linked
binary
but
like.
Let
me
be
a
way
to
kind
of
you
know
like
circumvent
that.
A
Yeah
thanks
for
engaging
here,
this
is
helpful
and
Nick
by
the
way.
Yeah,
hey,
I'm,
not
again,
not
blowing
smoke
up
your
skirt,
rather
at
the
shipyard
run
and
slaughter,
is
pretty
that's
yeah
yeah!
That's
just
so
funny.
It's
just
a
little
little
soft
thing
like
that.
That
makes
such
it's
just
it's
just
that
that
medicine
goes
down
so
well
for
people
when
they
gonna
have
that
first
experience
with
the
project
which
I'd
be
curious.
D
I
really
like
that,
as
an
experience,
because
the
way
I
look
at
it,
is
it
it's
the
thing
that
I
do
next
anyway,
it's
all
like
the
one
thing
that
I
was
when
I
first
implemented
some
of
that
stuff
in
my
own
stuff,
as
a
little
over
again,
it
kind
of
would
pop
up
a
little
bit
too
frequently,
but
yeah
I,
really
like
the
fact
that
you,
it
kind
of
opens
the
browser
up
for
you
because,
like
in
terms
of
the
tasks
literally,
that's
probably
the
next
thing,
you're
gonna
do
anyway.
So
it's.
A
So
it's
one
command
to
install
and
run
yeah
anyway,
and
so
shipyard
was
not
only
very
similar
to
just
a
fantastic
experience
like
that,
but
also
the
grant
that
I've
like
ran
at
once
and
so
I
just
but
I
was
so
impressed
by
that
that,
but
also
the
notion
that,
like
that
you're
able
to
choose
what
Pat,
what
blueprint
you
want
to
deploy
at
that
same
time,
also
one
of
the
things
that
got
me
hung
up
in
general
I'm,
a
new
poor,
I
hope.
This
discussion
is
helpful.
A
I
know
some
of
you
guys
have
had
to
deal
with
this
already,
but
there's
a
bit
of
yeah.
A
It's
not
much
do
when
you
do
the
initial
install
of
some
of
the
buying
of
mushishi,
GL
or
shipyard
that
you
from
every
in
the
and
this
I
think
followed
some
convince.
You
know,
sort
of
a
typical
convention
that
underneath
the
home
folder
there's
a
hidden,
you
know
got
my
three
older
and
then
hey
yeah.
To
your
point,
like
you're
good
drop,
drop,
the
note
that
it
was
a
brew,
install
deal,
I
think
the
god
sheets
could
be
well
or
the
education
coming
in.
A
E
D
So
what
you
could
do-
and
I
was
kind
of
thinking
about
this,
while
you
were
talking
because
you're
absolutely
right
like
what
I
could
do
is
potentially
so
you
you,
you
know
the
architecture
right,
metrics
ETL
knows
the
architecture.
It
knows
it's
running
on
a
Mac
or
or
running
on
Linux
or
running
on
Windows,
so
you're
limiting
your
options.
You
know
that
if
it's
running
on
on,
let's
say
a
man,
there
are
two
different
ways.
D
You
could
get
well
three
different
ways:
you
get
the
binary
manually
from
github
releases
homebrew
or
the
bash
installer
you
if
you've
kind
of
done.
Sorry,
if
you
don't
get,
have
releases
of
the
bash
installer,
then
that's
kind
of
like
like
what
to
make
the
other
is
Homburg
because,
like
you,
don't
want
to
update
and
then
screw
up
homebrew.
But
what
you
could
do
is
you
could
interrogate
home
gurus
sauces
library?
You
know
you
could
with
like
I'm
thinking.
D
It
could
be
like
a
little
like
every
way
you
you
can
kind
of
it
could
check
for
the
presence
of
the
measure
II
the
masher
you
tap
in
homebrew
and
if
it
finds
it,
it
knows
that
you're
maintaining
mastery
with
homebrew.
Therefore,
when
you
do
the
update
its
gonna,
do
the
the
brew
side
of
things
and
the
same
for
like
in
like
for
Linux.
D
Think
there's
actually
a
quite
an
elegant
like
an
elegant
way
to
maybe
cover
are
maybe
even
99%
of
cases
to
figure
out
how
somebody
got
the
bonnet
and
real
another
machine
so
that
you
you're
not
like
screwing
over
somebody.
If
they've
they've
used
a
package
manager
and
then
you've
just
done
a
role,
binary
update
on
them
and
then
of
course
anybody
you
and
then
you
could
go
that
fallback.
D
You
could
always
just
say:
hey
I,
can't
you
know
if
you
can't
determine
what
they're
using
you
just
say:
hey
you
need
to
update
mastery
use
your
package
manager
or
this
installs
grow
towards
find
them
of
the
documentation,
I
think
from
a
user
experience
that
could
be.
That
could
be
really
nice
but
I
like
I.
D
It
kind
of
says:
hey
you're,
using
version
14
and
15
is
the
latest
version.
Would
you
want
me
to
update
it
for
you
yeah,
but
I?
Don't
think
that's
a
nice!
It's
a
nice
user
experience,
I'm,
Michael,
I
didn't
realize
I
was
even
out
of
date,
click
the
button
and
boom.
It's
done,
I'm
a
lazy
person
I
like
but
there's
some
ideas,
I
think.
Maybe
it's
some
stuff
that
I'm
thinking
about
doing
yeah.
A
No,
that's
a
right
and
instant
right.
We
can't
achieve
yeah
yeah
I've,
seen
that
with
other
command
lines,
where
it's
very
evident
that
they're
they're
making
a
quick
call
out
to
the
github
releases
site
and
just
grabbing
latest
releases
there.
You
checking
that
and
I
think
with,
and
even
that
can
be.
Maybe
the
since
that's
a
single
end
point
call
that
might
be
the
easiest
way
to
do
the
quick
determination
to
see
if
you're
out
of
date
and
then
yeah
it
to
your
point
about
like
well,
hey
was
it
they
do
a
brew,
install
or.
D
There
is
a
library
if
you,
google
go
long
like
version
or
updater
or
something
cuz
I
was
I
came
across
it.
Yes,
today,
on
the
day
before
and
what
it
will
do
is
it
will
it'll
basically
look
at
github
and
it
will
look
at
the
latest
tag
and
it'll
kind
of
like
decipher
from
the
sandbar
of
the
latest
tag
based
on
what
you've
encoded
is
your
current
release
and
then
determine
if
you,
if
you
need
an
update,
it's
it's
pretty
simple
logic:
good,
but
cool
I
be
honest.
D
I
decided
not
to
go
down
that
route
when
I
put
some
code
in
there
and
what
I
actually
did
was
I
have
a
text
file
which
is
on
the
shipyard
run
website,
which
has
the
current
version
in
it
and
my
build
process
whenever
I
tag
it
just
updates
that
file.
So
all
my
update
logic
is
basically
what
what's
the
kind
of
the
tagged
version
baked
into
the
CLI.
D
A
No,
but
actually
the
thing
that
that's
slightly
more
powerful
about
that
approach
that
you've
taken
is
that,
then
you
can
build
in
any
application,
specific
logic
that
you
want.
Fourteen
you
know
like
hey.
Maybe
they
may
be
actually
one
of
the
things
that
we've
got
as
a
challenge.
Neck
is
and
there's
a
we've
written
up
a
lot
about
it
and
hey
sis
I
know
you
and
I
have
talked
about
this
as
well.
A
That
is
the
notion
that
there
needs
to
be
a
couple
of
release
channels,
so
have
a
stable
release
in
an
edge
release
and
so
Nick's
approach
with
you're
dropping
a
publicly
available
text
file
I
consider
can
potentially
help
with
like
I
get
to
find
release
check.
You
have
different
versions
for
different.
You
know,
yeah.
D
Yeah
you
could
in
that
file.
You
could
literally
just
put
you
just
encode
adjacent
blow
about
something
yeah,
I
think
I.
Think
that's
that's
kind
of
really
interesting,
like
I.
Think
that
would
be.
The
channel
thing
is,
is
really
good
you
again
good
user
experience
for
it's
like
super
simple
code
that
is
really
good
user
experience
or
for
people,
because
you
like,
if
you
want
to
try
the
latest
features,
we
kind
of
don't
want
to
go
through
the
whole
like.
A
No,
it
was
actually
somewhat
curious
to
me.
This
topic
is
the
fact
that
this
is
a
universal
challenge.
To
is
almost
every
project
out.
You
know
like
nearly
every
every
well
done,
project
out
there.
It's
like
and
and
the
same
thing,
and
so
you
know
I'm
gonna,
say
next,
which
is
like.
Why
is
this
not
solved,
but
along
the
same
lines
is
telemetry.
It
was
just
don't
you
we
want
to
understand
if
there's
anyone
even
using
it
on
Windows
anywhere.
Maybe
it's
just
not
even
worth.
You
know
what
you
know:
yeah
I.
D
Think
telemetry
is
a
really
great
Canon
thing.
It's
a
big
problem
and
but
I
think
it's
incredibly
useful
and,
like
you
know,
I
used
to
paste
work.
I
used
to
work
for
a
big
supermarket
in
the
United
Kingdom
Marxist
well,
department
store
massive
market
Marks
and
Spencer
nice
to
build
them
there,
their
e-commerce,
iPhone
and
iOS
apps,
there's
many
different
things,
but
telemetry
was
huge
like
we
had
telemetry
in
the
iOS
apps
we
wanted
to
know.
D
If
there
were
errors,
we
wanted
to
kind
of
know
whether
people
were
using
particular
commands
like,
and
all
we
would
do
is
basically
just
pumping
that
sort
of
stuff
into
like
Google
Analytics.
But
it's
it's
really
really
useful
things
to
have,
because,
if
you're
having
a
conversation
around
like,
should
we
deprecate
this
feature
in
this
CLI?
Because
we
don't
think
anybody
uses
it
or
or
like
we,
you
can.
You
can
take
that
empirical
approach
by
right.
D
You
know
by
by
by
using
the
analytics,
but
to
your
point,
I,
don't
actually
know
why
there
isn't
a
package
in
go,
which
kind
of
managers
update,
checking
across
different
architectures
and
and
also
handles,
maybe
basic
analytics.
It
would
feel
sensible
that
that
kind
of
is
like
a
Cobra
plug-in
or
something
maybe
build.
Maybe
that'd
be
a
cool
at
least
I
didn't.
A
Know
that
really
yeah
really,
if
no
one
ever
touched
that
sub-command
and
why
are
we
yet
to
your
point,
like
that?
Actually,
the
point
of
telemetry
to
be
the
that
is
exactly
where
an
open
source
foundation,
that's
the
type
of
value
it
is,
should
be
providing
around
the
the
legalese
of
the
collection
that
telemetry
the
an
amenity
of
it
or
the
and
yeah.
It's
kind
of
shocking
that
that
that
isn't
so
the
new,
poorer,
I,
totally
I
went
off
the
deep
end
here
on
the
thoughts.
F
I
contacted
Anand
if
he
could
help
me,
so
he
also
suggested
that
there
is
something
wrong
with
this
specific
code
of
line
only
so
when
I
asked
him.
So
he
said
that
this
code
of
line
is
inspired
from
excuse
how
s
to
work
to
install
the
versions.
So
I
personally
did
not
understand
how
this
specific
line
of
code
is
working.
So
I
asked
onions
for
some
help,
so
he
suggested
that
he
look
into
it
using
the
Steele
file
as
well,
and
he
suggested
that
the
part
where
we
are
giving
the
salt
function,
the
salt
tea.
F
This
part-
is
causing
issue,
so
we
need
to
replace
the
whole
part.
I
have
also
mentioned
that
place
code
in
the
document.
I
can
give
it
here
as
well.
So
this
is
the
current
suggestion
by
onion.
I
have
looked
into
the
issue
like
I
tried
that
how
we
can
function
with
this
but
was
not
able
to
understand
it
properly.
So
that
is
the
progress
until
now
and
then
I
have
reached
so
nice.
A
G
A
F
A
G
G
A
It
is
more
or
less
a
reminder
to
everyone
that
that
works
on
my
sri
CTL
that
the
logging
library
that
we've
chosen
to
use
is
log
rests,
and
so
I
think
that's
what
you're
doing
is
saying.
Hey
everyone.
Please
be
reminded
that
that's
to
to
leverage
that
library
consistently
across
russia,
your
CTL
commands.
G
H
H
The
mystery
of
the
city
and
up
there,
but
it's
not
updating
the
current
version
of
the
mystery.
So
the
nice
thing
about
its
position
tag
event:
okay,
that's
a
fun
one,
the
arsonist
Eisenman
as
in
their
YouTube,
that
they
have
doing
its
customizing
the
gate
of
action
there.
So
they
have
built
their
own
hit
of
action.
H
Then
they
have
checked
the
current
version
and
whenever
the
newest
version
is
outing
and
then
the
gate
of
action
is
trigger
the
custom,
you
wrote
the
interaction
kind
of
even
if
you
can
write
on
the
JavaScript,
but
you
can
do
it
on
the
knocker
knocker
file.
So
I
think
we
could
do
that.
Get
up
action,
approaches
well,
I!
Think
that's
can
solve.
The
problem
that
we
are
talking
about
here
can
do
good.
A
F
H
Yes,
I've
actually
asked
you
about,
they
say
they
say
I
particularly
market.
Yes
indicator
description.
You
can
look
for
that.
Some
some
action
already
there
can
solve
this
problem
or
not.
If
not,
we
could
do
as
you
should
look
for
the
newest
version
when
officially
obtained
come
on.
Is
it
actually
trigger
a
check
for
the
news?
But
if
it's
not
there,
it
doesn't
update
the
mystery.
But
it's
there's
a
new
version
tag
available.
Then
custom
build
a
custom
hit
of
action
trigger
and
then
the
appraisal
is
flowing.
I
actually
have
general
bear
up
there.
H
A
Yeah
yeah,
we
related
note
there
son
we
have
recently
taken
advantage
of
github,
is
official
action
that
they'd
recently
published,
which
is
working
a
little
better
for
us
than
the
one
that
the
azure
team
had
published
before,
so
that
that's
that's
good,
I.
Think
part
of
the
challenge
with
the
github
action
approach
is:
do
the
real-time
nature
of
the
need
to
look
up.
The
version
number.
A
A
I
have
an
interesting
way.
One
of
the
ways
in
which
we've
taking
advantage
of
a
github
action
is
there's
a
well
notice.
I
think
you
know
this
will
notify
slack
whenever
someone
stars
the
project,
so
we'll
send
a
notification
and
slack.
It
just
says
someone
new,
as
someone
has
started
the
project
and
recently
we've
upgraded
that
updated
it
to
include
a
count
of
the
stars,
so
yeah
there's
some
creative
ways
to
use
get
up
ashes
if
Shubham
I.
H
Haven't
you
English
for
some
client
as
well?
For
that
kind
of
reason
they
want
to
know
that
whenever
the
new
version
of
their
repository
generated,
so
they
have
triggered
an
action
and
they
can
can
deliver
the
that
they
can
update
the
URL
of
production
so
I
already
so
I
can
share
this
code
with
the
newer
too.
So
he
can.
H
We
can
leverage
that
can,
if
is
this
feasible
for
this
kind
of
project,
I,
think
the
creative
wrote
there,
because
this
is
already
version
tags
available
and
we
can
do
a
lot
of
more
cool
things
to
get
of
actions.
I
think
other
projects
I
think
they
kind
of
do
the
same,
but
in
a
mood
so
different
or
simplest
way.
So
I
can
I
can
give
their
projects
to
Norwood,
and
he
can
think
can
assume
that
nice.
A
B
B
So
there
are
couple
of
features
that
we
are
discussing,
which
will
not
be
added,
but
I'll,
be
mainly
focusing
on
both
particulars,
which
are
either
complete,
new
features
that
are
being
added
like
be
messy,
C
PLN,
whatever
changes
have
been
made
to
that
or
the
major
changes
that
we've,
including
so
those
are
the
ones
that
I've
included
for
the
release.
Four
zero
point:
4.0.
H
And
working
on
the
CI
CDC
ICD
system
to
a
project
they
get
up
there
so
previously
we're
talking
about.
We
have
c'mon
c'mon
dryness
surface
code
within
the
same
depository.
So
last
time
we
were
thinking
about,
can
be
to
it
separately
or
that
we
can
go
to
it
of
the
same
I'm
working
on
that,
so
I
have
gone
through
more
time
there.
So
anybody
here
who
has
can
give
me
a
walkthrough
on
that.
So
I
can
grasp
the
whole
project
there,
because
I
think
is
probably
maybe
I
need
some
more
advices
and
more.
A
I'll
immediately
jump
in
and
say
that
there's
I
just
put
a
link
in
the
chat
and
it's
in
the
meeting
minutes
as
well.
There's
a
document
called
the
metro,
build
and
really
a
strategy
that
I
think's
I
might
be
quite
just
what
you're
looking
for,
because
it
it
defines.
How
does
it
work
building
the
systems
when
how
often
we
should
do
release
how
those
are
where
the
artifacts
are
stored,
how
we
might
be
versioning
the
the
project
and
so
on?
A
That's
probably
what
you're
looking
for
it
also
talks
about
the
notion
that
we
need
some
a
couple
of
release
channels,
but
we
don't
have
those
yet,
and
so
the
project
is
in
a
little
bit
of
a
precarious
position
where,
when
we
merge
two
master
for
mastery,
that's
essentially
a
release,
and
that
was
a
okay
early
on.
We
need
to
have
some
more
rigor
and
some
more
controls
around.
That
could
be
a
really
interesting
area
for
you
to
dig
into
so
I'm
good
till.
A
H
And
the
I
I
will
add
it
to
that.
I
just
send
some
girl
some
snapshots
of
code,
but
k-dubb
action
do
so.
If,
if
you,
if
no
cool
things,
that
is
a
good
approach,
I
mean
can't
grasp
that
concepts
easily.
He
can
do
that
well.
Otherwise,
whichever
approach
is
taking
is
I
can
share
this
course
called
old
fashioned
hopeful
for
court
tomorrow.
So.