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Welcome @rajdas98! We encourage Monkey business here. :)

A

They're nice at that comment.

B

That's pretty good okay, so we are getting ready. Oh there you go, there is Lee, hey guys, hey Raj, hi, good.

C

To see ya good Oh meeting minutes hey remind me, which city are you in I'm, sorry, which town are you in I'm in India? Okay? Okay, it's probably inappropriate to call that a town, it's a more of a large city.

D

C

Oh great, okay, awesome, I'm pumped that you're here this is good.

C

You know we just had a while we're pulling up the meeting minutes. We just had a PR or to one of them from Mike who I'm gonna ping on slack. Just to make sure that he's aware that we're meeting he's got some work, he could show up.

B

Also, please, if you would please jump into the meeting and include with your updates.

C

You are you shovelling, snow last night grief.

B

No actually I mean I was fortunate. Looking it didn't snow last night, okay, yeah and also the weather was was pretty decent. Yesterday didn't go below like minus five or something. But today morning we started to get worse I think the temperature was minus 19 whoo.

C

Yeah I might should not open up my mouth, cuz, I'll, jeez I think we're starting to get starting into some cold weather down here you know you, you know cold in quotes. You know just put that in quotes just.

C

How about four- oh yeah, nineteen plus for Nikhil? That's nice, geez, that's 19 celcius! So that's good!.

E

Does it oh yeah.

B

All right, no, let's get started so who wants to go first, I'm done doing the kill arrived with a new day, so we will probably for us in Australia next week.

B

You're so sure I'll push.

E

Actually, this week or last week, I was a bit easy, so not able to tackle much of the issues just solved. One of the issues that was really a five-page drinking of the UI for the community section so I said make it appear on that and other than that I'm dealing with the performance section in the user performance reference to submit distribution to the comments. So you have some issues regarding that I will share my screen with.

C

The kill just because it it always feels good to demo remind me again the the area- oh here yeah. This is the this is I, guess I'll demo it for you since, uh but Nikhil took wrapped up some work that Mata had done a while ago and soon they kill maybe I'll. Just let me kill his work show for itself, but there's a breakpoint and the icons get smaller. The buttons get smaller and then think, there's another breakpoint where they get even smaller and they don't spill off the page like they used to.

C

So that was the and then actually the the the z-index on this tool. Tip I think it still is such that it will be hidden behind the div here. For this specification, I just moved this benchmark specification down a little bitter I think I increased the height of this just to no no I'm, sorry, what I did was I removed, suppose, actually, what.

E

Happens when we lower the screen size, then it doesn't come up and you increase the screen size. Then it will go for me I guess. If the issue is not it's.

C

Only make sense the thing that I did to cheat I mess with the z-index momentarily and I. You know working and so I cheat I just reduced the amount of verbiage in here so that it didn't go on to four lines because it so it's just three and so it doesn't hit. And so anyway, a small small contribution. But one that is, you know, feels good to demo and, as Nikhil goes to share.

C

Some other work that you're doing they kill. You may or may not have something else to share today. I, don't know, oh.

E

E

C

Okay, yeah and we were having a chat in slack earlier this morning. I thought I thought yeah.

E

I would love to share, but all the timing I would love to give it private sure, I guess I do so.

E

E

Added a section for the references.

E

It's not completed, I just made it. So let me make this toggle button.

E

That factor will work. I, guess that's the boolean variable, so it will be second to workforce as missing the code. Who is it just to make the available false? True, then it will echo. There will be something else.

C

My understanding would be the same as yours just that it's yeah in able to disable it's just a binary, true or false. Oh.

B

Yeah, it is a boolean, but what I've done is by default. It will be set to true. So that's how it'll it'll come from the server, so you know users have to turn it off this kind of how I have made it. So you know accordingly, I can all you have to do any kill is if you actually check the store, I want the reduc store. The real store already will have these values populated.

B

So in the page loads there is this thing called which will actually get all the data from the server and it will populate the blood store. Now all you have to do is like you know, like the other problems, you have to inject that you know into your component and then you know so I have any recombinant loads. You know you just load it from there and you know short and every time like they make a change, you actually send a request back to the bottom to update and also update the route up store.

B

So these will be the two things you'll be doing. You know. One thing you have to keep in mind is that you have to also I mean I would say like know how to look at the other confidence like, for example, the for comment or something, because there is one thing that this thing called sometimes take like takes like a second or two now, so what happens?

B

Is that you know after the sink all completes it updates the store, in which case like you know, you will still have to update it in the sense there is this I forgot there is a. There is a there is a function in the dashboard component, like know which will actually allow you to. You know change stayed later when the props changes I can send you the function. Name, I forgot the name of function. It's a static function, though I mean the points.

B

So some point is I'll say you mostly have to kind of warm coat from the dashboard component. Now it has all that in place, except for one part, graphical component, doesn't allow you to update why your company will like a little ello updating like this one particular thing. Actually, because if I transfer you, you actually short one flag, but there are two flags. One is actually for the anonymous statistics on the other. One is for anonymous performance with over there and who, both like you know that you don't have the same handler.

B

You just need to change your career parameter name.

E

Actually, just I want to write how fill the EPA Volume II to that to change the value from two phones and she's, not able.

B

To understand, oh, okay, no you know, and it's okay. So if you have I mean do you have any other questions you know if you stay, we can discuss that all flat, no schuster right now. The point I was trying to make was I. Was you know if you don't have anything else? Let's get the bottle to another person, while in the meantime, I'll construct a request and I'll send it to you. So you can him status organs. Oh good. Okay, awesome.

C

Yeah, if there's time at the end of the call we could just we can walk through it. Absolutely.

B

All right who's. Next, oh wow, she said: okay, that's very nice. As she say before, a joint. That's awesome, dungeon! A dungeon look! Do you want to go next.

F

Yes, sir I said anymore I'm good right now, I saw did the problem. There was a multi-language support for ER v io, so there is, if Jacob Hagen. So if he is the chicken target there then will face some elector. We have to pass separately pur light all the post or some blocks in other languages. So I think that is it. That would be a issue in coming days.

F

So I made a change and I use the Google, the some kind of Google Translation API that will automatically generate the transmission of the voltage if we click like if we click the Spanish flag and the voltage will be translated into Spanish, so I added the added that feature in the footer so should I go for that.

C

C

Nice, this is great, actually I. Think we're I'm surprised that we were getting to this as quickly as we are.

C

So this is nice for context for everyone else on the layer, 5 site itself, the that community site an issue that we, an enhancement issue that had been recently cataloged, was a request to make the site multilingual because it's you know it's in English right now and as we were looking at, that the site itself is based on Jekyll, and so it run runs on github pages, just like it's, the same technology, Jekyll and github pages to host the free site.

C

That's the same tech that many of you have probably already become familiar with, but it's the same tech that's used for the measure e duck. Well, Mary Jo this site. It's also the same technology, that's used for dot dot, measure eto, which is the measure documentation site. So all three of those sites use the same tech, and so hopefully, when we get good at one thing on one site, we can take it to the others and supra.

C

Super kit has been helping with that recently, the example being that he had taken the menu from the layer 5 site and moved it and used that same stellar, nava script, library that same menu library on mastery io of what Gunjan is working on was the consideration of how to bring how to make this site multilingual, and you think considering that you're, probably considering a one or two different plugins, because there's a Jekyll plugins for multilingual support and it deals with you know letting letting you, as a post author or as a page author, to define strings strings of text and identify what language those strings of text are in and then you as a site maintainer to go through to kind of manually, translate all the content, and you know one of the things that guns you know highlighted is that.

C

Well you know that can be tough like getting all of it translated.

C

It may be the case that only part of the site is translated, and so what's the user experience then, and how does this whole, how does the whole plugin work and it's you know fairly well written, but it's still kind of a lot to do there so I think dungeons, judo move if you will was to bypass that and leverage Google Translate and some JavaScript libraries from Google Translate to more or less automatically you to perform that translation real time as and when the page loads, based on the language that someone has chosen for their preference.

C

So do you do you have that that branch of the site built right now? If so, you could share? Yes,.

F

Sir, yes, okay.

C

It's funny I thought this whole time. I was sharing again, but I didn't know that I I have I did say, shouldn't you, nice, nice, yeah and so right now the site is in English. But if you were to click on any of you, log range.

C

Who else has feedback on this cuz? This, for the most part, seems to work pretty well. There are some key words like measure e or like layer, 5 that it doesn't translate and that I consider is good because those words are made up and they don't. You know they're, not in the English dictionary, and so as such, there shouldn't be a translation for them because they're just it even translates the Twitter feet. That's great.

C

And so you know I'll, you know, certainly you feedback from others and how they feel like this works or doesn't work well.

C

The other nice thing I think about this approach is that it's the support for multi languages may be slightly ahead of well. That's it's actually not I was gonna, say it's, maybe slightly ahead of where the community is, but there's a whole subsection of this community. The layer 5 community, that is in Mexico and hopefully soon in else and we're gonna, be keynoting service mesh day in Argentina, and so my point is there's a fair number of spanish-speaking visitors that will be coming in our part of the community.

C

There's a fair number of people that are part of the community that in various locations in India, so there's probably a couple of different languages that people speak there. We've got a isaku from near Hong, Kong and so he's you know. Mandarin is his thing and.

C

What's new know is in Sweden his language is Portuguese, and so so people are visiting rather actually one of the things that I promised we've done once or twice is shown. The visitor stats for the pace, site I'll bring those up and share them, but who else has my feedback is fairly positive, I think for this approach, but who else has feedback of the grecian too poor.

B

Don't have any feedback, sorry.

C

Yeah to me, the the so Gunjan the first time that you are the first version of that pull request had color colorized flags which are pretty, but they don't in my mind that you know they almost drew too much attention to them because it's you know it's got a great utility to have on the site.

C

It may not be something that people use all the time, and so drawing extra attention maybe wasn't necessary, and so you know it looks like of what you've done with you know, more or less converting them to a grayscale format looks first of all, I think it looks more pretty than the colors and it doesn't draw too much attention because things that are in the footer in general are more resources and an index of where to go other areas of the site and not not intended to be. You know they're intended to be subtext.

C

If you will so I think that that is nice of the changes that you made to the flags. Are they? How is their aspect ratio doing now.

F

I keep the size of the other flags that is, 23 height is 23, and the width is the 30 days. So, like other logos, also in the footer, oh I,.

C

See: okay, that's good I mean that's a good science to have the challenge that I think that we'll run into is when you spent when you statically specify both the height and the width. That will work and be great if each of the original images are of the same aspect ratio. If they're, not you, we might. You might end up finding that in order to avoid the flag.

C

Looking like it's vertically squished or horizontally, stretched the you, if you just specify just the width or if you specify just the height, did the they won't get squished or stretched. They won't all be the same size, but they might be close enough that it it might look either without you either. You can refactor the images themselves so that they're the same aspect- ratio as related to all the others or just statically defined width or height, then see how it looks, Obie's, the other than that I think you're, getting a lot of positive feedback.

C

I think this is you've got a winner. This is good.

C

Thank you. It's cool.

C

And then you had a couple of other updates: the update to the partners site page.

C

So dude, so it's something I, don't know if you want to share it or not, dungeon but gun. You had updated the partners page as well, yes, sir, and which looks great so he had created two different I'm, just I'm. Only speaking to a guns. You, because did you want to tell people about what you did.

F

Yes, sir I read the technology partners.

C

So very good some guns and ended up creating two categories of partners: wonderful education of which, by the way, professor das, just emailed me yesterday, just just saying that hey they're still there contacting the university.

C

Anyway, professor das had emailed yesterday saying that actually we have, it looks like we have professor Raj das, on the call, but this, but a different professor at UM Jaipur, whom number of the students on the call here no I just sent a short update, saying that they're still that they're there they're reaching out to contact the school administration, the school staff, to make sure that they're able to do some of the fulfill.

C

Some of the requests that we had had either around extra credit or school credit or credit for a course or any of those other suggestions that we had.

C

That really is a I'm hoping that they they follow through that's really cool and so Raj and the poor I think the two of you go to different universities, of which there's almost enough iit university students, students from different iit schools that are participating now that outside of us participating in google Summer of Code.

C

That will likely look to establish a relationship with with that university system with the IIT system and see if we can't get a better more support for you guys locally, a better program going on, because, as more of the students come through the more having local stewards, local communities towards local maintainer z--. If you will will help- and actually it's an opportunity for those of you that are here now, it's an opportunity for you to potentially mentor others.

C

You know in a year from now.

C

So cool so I guess I said you know. If you look on the partners, page you'll see a couple of technology partners that are new, so layer, five is partnered with Microsoft on SMI SMI is proposed for inclusion in the CNCs sandbox. Hopefully, we'll have VMware up there. Soon, Harish and I are meeting with VMware a little bit later today on a related specification called Hamlet. So those are exciting.

C

So back to you guns, you know you had a issue: oh yeah. Oh yes, swagger I! Think maybe it's what you're going to talk about. Oh.

F

Yes, so I said I'm trying to solve that issue. Yeah it will be first timer. It will be first mmm touching that type of issues- okay, so I want to I want to solve. This is nice yeah and one more thing: I want to talk about the mult in that issue that multi-language support issue, so I started that each I, if I, could detect the IP of the user and then I changed the language according to the IP. That will be that will to be some kind of.

F

If a lecture me I'm from India, if the, if this thing, if the page will translate in other languages like Hindi or any other languages, that you'd be difficult for me, because I am by default using English in a browser, so it will be difficult. So I didn't put that type of feature in this fully cuts, though oh I see yeah.

C

Okay, understood it you maybe after we land this pull request it one way. Actually the nice thing about this community and it being international, is that you could put up a another poll request or a new branch and then make a request of the community to you know, check it out, build it and and hit it from where they're local, from where they locally are so there's a number of people.

C

Actually, if I she she's on the call I, don't know, I'm Hector, I'm, Hector, dela Cruz had reached out, but he's in Monterrey Mexico he'd be happy to perform a test like that. I can do it from here in the US surgeries can do it from Canada.

C

You know we can give some people testing it out of you.

F

Yep, you said: desert very good.

G

Highly I rush I have some questions. Oh yeah.

C

You know actually Raj I mean just the interactive visit. I. Think um gireesh was going to he's pretty pumped that you're here as well. He was gonna. Ask. Maybe if you wanted to just not only ask you the questions you've got, but if you wanted to give a quick intro to about yourself to the rest of them, yeah.

G

Sure sure I'm right about with us I mean maintainer of one project litmus project which is in a scene ships, landscape project. Soon it will go and put. The sandbox project in company is also promoting open, EBS, a sandbox project, so actually I am also in my final year, so I'm searching for some good projects for this. Okay, as I already mentioned in the slide channel and I recently, cracked, the CK that's production and I'm little bit curious about this project. Thanks Leah for asking me to join this community, oh yeah, well,.

C

That's it I'm, just just to see ka just to finally, your student, just only been you know, contributing it litmus. You know just you know it's kind of a mouthful. That's awesome.

G

Litmus Chios, the project is litmus kills.

G

It's the QIOs engineering humanities.

G

He was yours, it must be yours, yeah, okay,.

H

Katya yeah different.

C

Sure nice, so this is a bit of a gremlin competitor like Rambo.

G

Yeah, it's a gremlin, you can say it's a gremlin computer is chaos, so I'm also searching such kind of thing in message, a message we can do some course engineering on this platform.

G

It's long term thing, but probably I, will start with some Koopas issue and some active opposition. Then the product we must monkeys well,.

C

Yeah and it's empty rather yeah, there's an appetite for yeah. There's an appetite for that so bring your ideas, might bring your make, make a proposal cuz that.

C

Wow, that's fantastic, I! Guess! Actually it's for those that are on the call. If there is any.

C

Desire to chase after your certified, kubernetes, administrator and Raj has walked to that path already. So it could be a good good to pick his brain on what the exam is like. Oh.

G

C

Then Raj outside of outside of the question about how some of the works within the layer, 5 community, touch up against chaos, engineering and other other questions that you would have you gotten a chance to try to run mystery.

G

It's a dumb question, but I so did it's for the tea shop and so on. Only single project or any beauty product is participating in the scenes game. So how can you Alton Missouri is participating in such kind of I heard that you earlier in 2019, we already participate.

H

It's landscape project right, yeah,.

C

It's a good question, good question: you are right that measure II was something is something of the exception that there actually is. Probably the only project that fell under that was sponsored by that was sponsored by the CN CF to be a google Summer of Code project last year. In part, that has happened for any number of reasons.

C

One of those is because, like you Girish and myself, and some of the others in the community, we end up weed up spending so much time and doing so much in the CN CF and have for many years.

C

Yeah and you know, and so yeah I mean maybe that just kind of explains part of it.

C

It's kind two-fold: it's that, like we're intending to uplift the projects that are there, moreover, as messy as measure ease about a year old, coming up on a year old that when it reached that reaches of the point of maturity, which I think it already has that it is, it was our it's our intention to bring misery into the CN CF, and so the CNCs staff and understand that, and so so two things may happen going forth during it for google Summer of Code this year, and that is that layer, five as an organization is applying to be to be accepted as an org directly, but it will and whether or not that goes through layoffs.

C

We will also look to I'm sorry if layer five goes through directly as an organization, then will have a clear path to having misery in as a project and projects around mystery or mesh monkey or other or other things.

C

If that doesn't pan out, then we're likely to follow one of two routes. One is to do exactly what was done in 2019, which is bringing misery or bringing mesh monkey, or something underneath the CN CF org in google Summer of Code.

C

The second route would be just bringing misery into the CN CF and then again on participating in google Summer of Code under the CN CF work.

C

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G

The question: what is much fun.

C

And ROG actually take take a stab at it. I think you've got a good sense of what that might be.

G

Yeah, actually, just like I'm thinking replicating things like close one to the name. So it's a engineering thing like we break things on to check the resiliency of the product or any application, so I'm thinking that we also made this repository for such kind of chaos, engineering experiments.

I

With him misery product is it it's.

C

Totally right, yeah and so to terrazas, point Newports and others that the concept of chaos engineering is relatively new well or rather, that term is relatively new I, don't think the concept is, but but in general, the the point is that today, since we're much of what people are building is based on ephemeral, infrastructure infrastructure that comes and goes distributed, systems that have fallible networks that get disconnected from one another and that VMs get moving around containers, spin up and go down and all of that Scot ik, and that when you write an application and when you run the infrastructure, you should never assume that things are going to be stable or that services won't disappear or the network won't fall over or DNS won't go away.

C

And so then the chaos engineering as a concept is a practice around embracing chaos and making sure that you've engineered your infrastructure and your applications to be resilient in the face of disruption.

C

Whatever that disruption is, if it's you know completely saturated CPU or a machine going down, or whatever the case and and then facility, and then the chaos engineering that is the there are tools that have come about like like gremlin and like litmus that enable you and empower you to do things like schedule or to run experiments to run controlled experiments about what happens when when this occurs, when memory is saturated and I'm swapping memory, like you wouldn't believe, like what effect does that have and how can I design my system to better deal with it, and so very much so service meshes are a utility that provides fine-grained control over the network, that your service requests, transit and because of that, you can then very readily get to a point where you take a tool like a service mesh monkey like you, send in a monkey to just start, ripping out wires and causing latency, injecting jitter, dropping traffic, redirecting it to the wrong place, etc, and, to then see what happens and so yeah Raj, for my part and I.

C

Think I speak for Greece as well like it's an exciting thanks.

G

Lee, actually in litmus, we also try to bring some experiments for each to you.

G

Do some service cues so right now in the chat hub, if you go the queue so the second thing this is some of the charts. The coordinates contributed, I mean so the few of the charts are there. So you you can have it's basically made for kubernetes, kubernetes and few of the sandbox projects.

C

There's this is just weird name right here, see that.

C

D

Yeah, that's fantastic.

C

Yeah Roger, we might do well to yeah just did like as we're brainstorming about some things that can be done here. Maybe some brainstorming, maybe a demo from you on the litmus chaos framework.

G

Right, no, you can for the next session.

C

Okay, beautiful I will put your grease already put your.

D

C

Okay, sorry back to you, Bri.

B

This was great, Roger, I'm, sorry and mean was some wonderful links and yeah. We honestly, we have had a chance to talk about like MKS engineering, quite a bit like and, of course they got with me and Lee how this list of all this quite a bit, but this is this- was a great start with and I can bring in case engineering can be. You know the development and community culture. You know this is wonderful. You should actually join our Friday call and probably tweet us out there again. I'm pretty sure.

B

Like you know, the other folks usually join the Friday zone will be excited to see you there yeah.

B

Yeah and yeah so, and we just request with you for it I'm already like I mean if you are available and if you have time on Friday and if you're ready for a devil, you should probably give it us on Friday or I, mean anytime I mean if you.

B

G

We had the CFCA group listed in this one working group, so they will upload one demo, also in the YouTube channel. Okay I'm, they didn't approve it in. It was on secretary.

G

Yesterday, sorry, not a call, so they will upload very soon in the YouTube channel of chains here and I will be available on Friday right am beautiful. You know that's great thanks.

B

A lot alright, let's move on to the next person. Nupur, have you already given your ot I, don't think so may I, maybe I might have missed, was busy chatting here. So did you have a big new program.

J

Hi everybody so.

J

That's one for my site.

J

I, like the great like I added this week, the only task I did is adding the news in the layer 5 birth. I oh about mash. We got listed in top three mesh services, development in without Jen 20, so I added that article in the new spot, and apart from that I participated me in the hackathons because of which I will not even act excuse.

J

But this is the actual reason of not working on the previous cold, so I genuinely don't have any updates on the last quote and I had like two exams today as their so these may be. If this is all my excuses, but I actually did not get time to update the previous code, but the new Spyder is pretty much like. Not that tough. For me, though, to do so I updated that.

C

So no excuses no.

J

It was a two-day hackathon, so in the like, overnight I learned, the new language now I finally created an application on flutter. So that is great. A great experience.

B

You should you should probably give us a demo on flutter yeah.

J

I will definitely, if, like on Friday, maybe I will give you a demo of that, like we were working on a application to improve the mental health of the users so like the app is not yet completed. So that's why I was out from the second no, but it was a great experience for learning. A new language died with my part for the like hackathon I was excited to learn new thing, so yeah.

B

I mean you know so: I think the key takeaway from a hackathon is actually working. What he just said right, that's the learning and it's teh experience. So you know it created that, like I mean you give it a try, absolutely and definitely like. We would like to see this. You know, do your learning so that I mean you know. It'll be it'll, be enlightening for all the other members here as well. That's that's great yeah.

J

Technically I will like if on Friday I get time, so I will definitely give it a more short term of the application we created so yeah.

A

B

Right, let's move on to I think cover everyone here on account, giving somebody a sheesh.

A

Hello, sir: hey, how are you yeah, Sam, fine, sir, and you ain't not too bad, not too bad. Do you have anything for.

F

Us I said last week: I worked on around the five to six small issues. Okay and correctly will be working on an issue which was signed by Lisa today. Only like service saying me too, that we need to add something in the mystery workshop page, which will be an SVG SVG pair means. It is SVG image. I need to need some animation. Like I know, the color was not matching with the website, which is actually present in the website.

F

So actually any good in that color that it is able to match with the train, do the kind of SVG animation. This animation I will be working on.

B

All right does anybody else. Have any other topics did I miss anybody I go on, but I did cover Raj before they kill dungeon Ashish, so I hope I didn't miss anybody. But now, given that we have another nine minutes, like you know, do you guys have anything else to discuss.

C

And we don't I, don't know if we're able to circle back to Nichols stuff now or if that's, if that would take too long. Oh.

B

Oh, you mean looking out the requests, so if you actually scroll up, I can paste the message again, but if you scroll in the image chart, I already sent a sample request. This was act like okay, like 10, 22 or 9:22 er time I based protocol. You know fundamentally, like you know, so that's all it is like you know, so you just have to change the values of you know the anonymous uses, stats and the per stats to 12 volts, but it pays the same message again.

B

So people have some context because you know yeah awesome. Thank you. Thank you for yeah, that's that's great yeah exactly so now this might look tricky but because it's a color call like I just gave this because you know I thought it'll be nice for you guys to have something you can test like, for example, Nikhil. If he wants to see how that's working you know he can, he can test this from the criminal now.

B

One thing is that I mean this is the same thing like an ogive messaged earlier is that this might look different from the other ones, but it's actually not like you know, because all over the place in different components, we are making a post request with a similar content type and a similar set of content in the body. So so all you have to do like I'll, just piggyback on that style and and use this new endpoint, which is like the slash API, slash user, slash stats.

B

So once you do that Nikhil, you just have to set the values to true or false, and you know it'll update the baton. So it's it's pretty straightforward and I'm. Pretty sure canonical has already worked in the codebase, like sometimes I'm, pretty sure I canonical will be able to figure it out. Right now, in a few minutes, tops.

E

Yeah, yes, sure.

E

Thing that I'm trying to do how should I check that if the values can changed.

B

Okay, so now in your browser, all you have to do is like no time to use after you set the value. The simplest thing you can try is reloj the page when you reload the page. If you look at your developer tools, there is a call that will be made by the browser to the back end. I think it will be something like API slash.

B

Well, there's a sink call. You know fundamentally, like I searched for this word in your network tab. You will find a sinkhole that sinkhole will have a bigger payload and in that payload there will be these two values, which is the anonymous usage stats and an honest or stats. We should see their value there.

B

Okay, let me see it just amazing. I can I can even give you the code, but there is. One thing you have to remember is that if you want to try the curl and you should use your local provider, that's good I mean you, don't worry! Honestly, it's gonna be tricky for you to use a color map because we don't have the provider right in front. I can tell you how to get around that as well. But let me first is this here in the chat. This is the call API user.

B

Sync this you don't have to make this call explicitly if you reload the page on page load, this call will be made and you should be able to see it in the network tab in your developer tools, and that would probably answer your question. Okay,.

G

Lee, can you send me the machine monkey Viera, pulley yeah.

C

You know what I should rush in me. I absolutely will it is in the wait? Oh wait! Oh really, oh I, didn't you realize it? Okay,.

C

Yeah, that's is anybody else able to get to the that link? Hopefully it's and then actually that's. Another good question is.

C

Raj and others that everyone here on the call is also part of raj. Did we end up sending you an invite to join the github org.

I

Yeah go spin edition, okay, cool.

C

Not that the repos aren't public they they they should all be public.

C

That's it's just that the the issue with it is that it it's mostly empty. It was kind of the notion that, like a year and a half ago, we had an appetite for or have an understanding that we do want to do something here. We just have been so focused on some of the core feature sets of my Cherie that we hadn't hadn't come round, but actually you're the second person in a week that has mentioned a focus on chaos, the other one. If I recall correctly Greece, do you recollect if that was a circle?

C

I thought he said it go back to my notes and me and connect people to make sure that we can brainstorm some interesting things, but.

B

So, are you talking about a soup go and kids engineering yeah.

C

I thought that someone had recently I'm trying to remember who else had recently talked about chaos: engineering, oh okay,.

C

C

So I just popped open a new dock. Well mostly just an empty document here so I'll send this around. Oh.

C

I thought it was screen sharing, but I guess some not again.

C

I can't screen share.

C

But yeah I'd be great. We've got a couple of some some chicken scratches. If you will, we've got a couple of ideas, so we'd written down before I'm gonna go paste those into the doc and see if we can. What makes sense. I mean honestly, there's a any number of very conceptually easy to grasp things about just applying config to the mesh and that config would be in context of injecting some latency dropping a couple of packets, heck, even measure e right now when it generates load.

C

That's a bit of monkeying around I mean that's a bit of that's workload, impacting you know, yeah.

G

Take a look on the product we're a little bit deep. First I understand: I saw there's some projects like steel and.

G

I'll make some people someday yeah sure.

C

Very good yeah yeah you give I think after you give measuring a good run through you'll, get a sense of you get it like. Today, Mishra is able to apply configuration to the mesh and that configuration can be and what like six different service meshes and that configuration could be add latency. You know like, like yeah.

G

Yeah we've already used some latency cos a packet loss network delay between the ports between the PVC or I.

C

Said I guess you know, do we have anything else today racially.

B

Well, yeah I, don't have anything I I doubt if anybody else has anything else and.

C

The poor did you still have you still have a couple of items on your plate? Is that right or you do you need a couple.

J

Yeah, like oh, not really, a lot of things but like for next two days. I have make them after that I'm pretty free to contribute actively and I. Have like very no question regarding the news like the UI. So I will present my screen and ask you that.

C

Yeah look I guess my screen isn't.

J

Yes, so I have a question regarding like this is the National listed in top three servicemen's developments in 2020? Is the new news, I added, but I see the difference between this one, the CNCs s, IG networks at intro and eat dry, though here are three dots instead of external link logo so and when I went through the code, black, the file for that I.

J

Like these are also news types, so how like there is no external link logo. So if it's some bug or is just how it is.

C

This is a by design that sometimes there will be. There will be news that maybe we don't- we haven't, had the time or haven't taken the time to write up a description of what the news is and how it's important, and rather all that we want to do, is have a catalog of links that point people to where they can go. Read the news and so yeah. The difference is that the ones that have the ellipse is essentially a you know, yeah it's it's.

C

We've written some context around the news, article and so yeah. The difference is when you click the other. You know I, think I, think literally in Jekyll that what we were using to differentiate them was in the front matter of that file was like post. It was type equals news.

C

No, no! It's the e URL, the external URL. If that's populated, then that's what controls the behavior of whether or not they get an external link. Looking thing: okay,.

J

So, like I bought the point that there was some content in the file like you, my thumbnail is visible. That I got the point, that there is some content for the file, but I added out that why there is no external link like. Is it how it is, or you just the format that a new step did was designed after that? So was just wondering so, oh sure, yeah.

C

You know I should have been more succinct. The behavior of that page is controlled by the presence or absence of URL the URL in in the front matter in the top portion of the file.

J

C

So yeah, if the page detects that, then it just puts the external link and redirects okay yeah.

J

Okay: okay, okay! Thank you. Thank you.

C

All right see you guys in a few days.

C

C

Bye guys trying to kill my Raj before bison.

B

Let's have your honor bacon in black.