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From YouTube: Meshery Development Meeting - November 13th 2019
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Discussion of the Service Mesh Landscape.
A
C
A
Yeah
I'm
trying
to
think
I
think
there's
about
four
locations
that
I
generally
might
take
a
meeting
from
this
happens
to
be
the
upstairs
of
my
house,
it's
kind
of
it's
kind
of
funny,
kids
yeah
anyway
enough,
reflecting
on
that
speaking,
let
me
open
up
the
blinds.
While
we
wait
for
a
couple
of
folks,
you
know
Anand
sent
a
message.
I'll
give
you
guys
an
update.
A
A
A
D
A
And
share
it
in
the
chat
so
and
then
let
me
just
share
the
actually
just
before
I
share
those
meeting
minutes.
Let
me
say
this:
let
me
say:
hey
soos,
to
see
you
good
morning
actually
give
more.
You
know
one
I
actually
just
accidentally
activated
Siri
on
my
macbook
at
the
same
time
that
I
said
good
morning
so
anyway,
so
good
so
Siri
says
good
morning
as
well.
Oh.
A
E
A
A
That
was
just
to
try
to
fit
into
certain
time
zones
or
help
everyone
be
able
to
get
on
a
call
and
have
an
in-depth
discussion,
and
so
this
one
we
had
scheduled
just
before
daylight
savings
I'm.
Sorry,
we
had
scheduled
some
time
ago.
We've
been
running
it
for
a
while,
and
it
used
to
be
at
7:30
p.m.
Indian,
Standard,
Time
and
now
I
think
I
said
8:30
p.m.
A
Indian,
Standard,
Time
and
I
think
that
that
time
still
works
for
most
of
the
mostly
students
that
have
been
have
been
on
the
project
for
a
while
and
I've
been
making
all
kinds
of
commits
and
PR
is
everywhere.
Like
I,
don't
know
if
there
isn't
a
repo
that
they
haven't
touched.
It's
been,
it's
been
really
nice,
but
as
such
we'd
really
only
sent
out
invites
to
a
select
to
them,
not
considering
that
we
really
should
just
open
at
this
point,
we
should
just
open
it
up.
It's
it's
for
anyone
who
has
time
to
come.
A
This
is
fantastic,
so
super
pumped
that
you're
here
more
pumped
about
you
being
here
in
a
bunch
of
ways,
but
one
of
them
being
that
you
get
to
meet
a
couple
of
other
folks.
So
so
so
subbu
is
here
on
the
call,
Gunjan,
Mahtob
and
ashish,
and
I'm
still
trying
to
figure
out
if
I
should
be
saying,
soo,
bum
or
Shubham
and
gireesh
tells
me
it's
probably
Shubham.
So
with
a
bit
of
us
on
it,
but
anyway
guys
the
second
one
is
vocals.
A
A
Also
recognize
some
of
my
corny
jokes:
don't
always
translate
well,
so,
if
I'm
laughing
at
myself,
it's
okay,
I
guess
is
that
but
guys
meet
hey
soos.
He
is
in
Monterrey,
Mexico
and,
and
he
is
bringing
any
number
of
new
people
to
the
project
which
is
really
exciting
and
so
hey
soos
is
a
really
good
person
to
get
to
know
a
bit.
I
might
as
I
expect
he'll
be
fairly
impactful
in
the
community,
so
you
know
gun
gin
and
mod
up
and
the
kill
and
I
see
Shubham.
B
Hi,
if
my
pronunciation
is
not
right,
please
manage
okay,
I'm
Salam,
kumara
I'm
from
India
Shampoo
and
okay
I'm
personally,
not
detect
OBS,
listen
and
I'm,
contributing
in
there
five
from
I
think
three
to
four
month.
If
I'm,
not
wrong
yeah.
So
that's
it
for
Matt
said
it's
nice
meeting
you
and
good
to
see
you
here.
F
A
E
G
H
E
I
I
E
A
A
Well,
gents
said
there's
another.
So
let
me
let
me
SH
so
this
this
is
great
and
actually
it's.
It
is
a
bit
nice
that
there's
a
smaller
collection
of
folks
of
contributors
on
the
call,
because
then
we
get
to
go
deep
into
what
each
individual
is
working
on
and
and
so
with
that.
Let
me
share
the
meeting
minutes
as
I.
A
Do
all
say
that
there's
another
senior
whose
name
is
Anand,
who
messaged
a
bit
earlier
as
saying
he
might
he
might
he
hopes
to
join,
but
if
he
does,
it
would
be
late,
and
so
he
did
give
an
a
written
update.
It's
obviously
like
a
shirt
he
quickly
here.
Anand
has
put
in
a
fair
bit
of
work
on
the
command
line
utility
for
measure
e
in
it,
and
that's
called
mastery.
A
Ctl
he's
currently
working
on
building
out
a
sub
command
called
version,
so
that
so
that
you
can
run
measure
CTL
version
and
it
would
just
spit
back
out
the
version
of
well
both
mesh
resi,
TL
and
massery,
because
they
are
released
together.
The
current
version
is
0-3,
1
I,
believe
we
just
released
that
yesterday,
if
I
recall
and
so,
and
actually
that
release
included
kind
of
a
big
decent
sized
feature,
and
it
was
support
for
WR
k
to
a
new,
not
a
new,
but
an
additional
load
generator.
A
So
he's
he's
closed.
So
that's
good
and
actually
I
know.
He
su
said
that
for
some
of
your
early
focus
I,
you
know
part
of
that
I
think
had
been
oriented
towards
Mestre
CTL
as
well,
and
so
this
might
be
as
his
changes
come
through.
It
might
be
interesting
to
you
to
be
a
reviewer
on
on
that
new
code,
so
that
you
just
continue
to
gain
more
familiar.
A
Okay,
alright,
so
that's
an
ons
update
and
then
with
that,
let
me
you
hush
my
mouth
and
let
any
one
of
you
guys
speak
up
actually,
maybe
Mahtob,
just
because
I
know
we
haven't
been
able
to
catch
up
in
a
little
while,
maybe
out,
we
can
start
with
you,
because
some
of
your
changes
have
been
landing
in
layer,
five
dot
IO
on
the
measure.
Ii.
A
So
mod
up,
as
you
come
off
of
mute,
just
interrupt
me
whenever
you
do
I'm
just
giving
people
context
for
some
of
your
your
last
work,
Mahtob
was
going
to
essentially
beautify
the
community
section
here
on
layer,
5,
io,
/,
missouri
and
and
there's
a
community
tag.
It's
just
this
this
section
here.
It
has
all
the
right
information
about
how
to
join
the
weekly
meetings
on
Fridays,
where
to
go
look
for
the
recordings
and
where
to
subscribe
to
the
community
account.
It
has
all
the
right
links,
but
that's
good,
but
Mahtob
was
gonna.
A
F
A
A
A
A
D
Yeah,
so
that
is
that's
not
mean
if
you
have
some
bugs,
then
yeah,
of
course,
like
I
know.
That
is.
That
is
definitely
a
good
idea,
but
but
for
the
most
part,
like
you
know,
Visual
Studio
code
with
it
go
and
go
plug
in,
like
you
know,
notes
for
the
most
part
it
actually
uses
both
these
or
you
know
the
completion
and
intelligence
overall.
So
it's
pretty
decent
yeah
for
the
most
part.
There
are
times
like
you
know
when
it
sucks,
but
I
mean
that's
just
part
of
the
freedom
you
get
so
okay.
A
Yeah,
actually,
while
we're
doing
this,
this
is
kind
of
it.
This
is
some
some
things
that
we
don't
necessarily
talk
about,
that
much
and
I
recognize
that
we
probably
should
here's
I
think.
Occasionally
we
share
some
tips
and
occasionally
we
say,
like
here's,
a
convenient
way,
here's
how
get
here's,
how
it
works!
Here's,
how
github
works
because
it
can
be
they
can
be
pretty
confusing.
A
The
s
means
sign
off
on
your
commit,
and
so
whenever
I
type,
cm
or
I
type
amend
or
if
I
type
commit
git
commit
it
alias,
is
to
get
commit
s
which
means
I'm,
always
signing
off,
which
is
part
of
the
requirement
that
we
have
as
a
project
to
ensure
that
everyone
is
adhering
by
a
developer
certificate
of
origin,
a
DCO.
So
we've
had
conversations
on
that
in
the
past
and
we've
got
some
documentation.
A
We
can
kind
of
talk
about
DCO
if
anybody
wants
to
come
just
hit
me
up,
but
there's
another
one
that
I'm
calling
out
right
here
and
it's
a
little
bit
longer
a
little
bit
more
confusing.
But
I
a
Lea
stit
this,
which
is
more
or
less
like
check
out
and
then
check
out
a
specific
PR
and
and
I'll
share
this
command
and
with
you.
But
basically
it
says
check
out
it.
A
F
A
That's
nice
I
think
this
is
an
improvement
on
what
was
there
previously
the
and
so
I
took
what
you
had
done
and
just
I
change
it
from
orange
to
blue
and
then
I
swapped
out
the
pngs
that
you
had
had
with
some
SVG's
and
just
kind
of
chose,
some
some
other
ones,
but
hopefully
an
enhancement
on
top
of
what
you'd
had
and
but
there's
a
couple
of
things.
One
is
I'd
noted
that,
like.
B
A
Ya,
you
guys
are
totally
right.
There
are
a
couple
of
issues,
I
think
with
this
PR
as
it
stands
currently,
so
one
of
those
is
precisely
what
you've
called
out,
which
is
the
overlap.
Another
one
is
that
if
you
look
at
the
SVG's
that
are
here,
you
see
see
right
in
the
center
of
the
chat.
It
turns
blue,
so
it's
fully
transparent.
If
you
do
it
here,
it
turns
blue.
It's
a
fully
transparent,
fully
transparent,
there's
no
white
in
the
middle,
fully
transparent,
no
there's
no
white
in
the
middle.
It's
great!
A
A
Nice
and
then
oh,
very
good,
and
then
the
other
one
is
that
this
set
of
buttons
isn't
responsive
or
configured
in
a
responsive
way,
and
so,
if
I
take
and
shrink
down
the
screen,
it
starts
to
you
things
start
to
get.
You
know,
everything
else
is
responsive
and
does
shrink
down,
but
but
these
guys
don't
and
so
the
nice
thing
is
they're
SVG's,
and
so
as
long
as
we
include
some,
you
know
some
responsive
CSS,
we
should
be,
should
be
ok
there.
A
Lastly,
I
think,
there's
one
other
thing,
and
you
guys
tell
me
if
this
bugs
you
like
it
does
me
so
the
nice
thing
about
the
current
style
is
that
as
a
user,
I
can
come
here
and
say:
well,
there's
community
stuff,
ok,
I
can
read
it
and
I
and
without
hovering
my
mouse
and
without
clicking
I
can
tell
that
when
the
community
needs
the
fact
that
meetings
are
recorded,
that
there's
a
calendar
to
subscribe
to
I
haven't
an
indication
by
having
read
this.
That
I
can
do
these
things.
A
A
I
Yeah,
so
if
we
put
the
text
along
with
the
icon,
then
the
positional,
because
the
size
of
the
part
section
will
become
really
big,
because
then
we
have
to
make
a
small
box
and
out
a
preview
so
that
the
text
is
visible.
At
least
it
really
increases.
I
will
be
section
or
not
so
I
think
moving
up
and
finding
the
tooltip
is
nice
enough.
Okay,
otherwise.
A
It
might
be
the
case
that,
even
though
we're
not
going
to
display
all
the
info
until
they
hover,
it
might
be
the
case
that
we
would
maybe
we
would
shrink
these
slightly
or
something
I,
don't
know,
but
I'm,
also
sensitive
to
like
I.
Don't
think
it's
important
right
now
and
I,
don't
know
that
there's
a
better
color
but
I'm
sensitive
to
the
fact
that,
like
this
site,
the
whole
site
itself
at
some
point
will
be
refreshed
and
as
we
do
that
hopefully
will
have
a
better
highlight
colors,
so
Mahtob
it
had
been
a
while.
A
But
if
you
recall,
you
had
used
orange
as
the
highlight
color
and
that
was
highly
appropriate
at
the
time
because
at
the
time
hyperlinks
and
the
highlight
color,
if
you
will
was
orange,
we
had
since
consolidated.
If
you
would
since
moved
away
from
that
and
moved
to
this,
this
blue,
so
I,
don't
think
it's
important
to
really
figure
out
right
now,
but
I
just
wanted
to
say
do
expect
that
that
will
come
forth
with
a
redesign
and
so
hopefully
we'll
have
better
colors
other
than
that.
In
any
other
comments
that
people
have
on
this.
A
A
This
is
what
I
was
trying
to
say
earlier
that
I
took
in
giving
feedback.
I
took
some
liberties
with
with
update
with
in
hand,
hopefully
enhancing
what
you're
done
so
the
icons
are
a
little
bit
different
and
the
color
is
a
little
bit
different,
but
the
fact
that
it
circles
and
the
fact
that
you
hover
and
have
that
interaction
and
have
those
same
tooltips.
That's
all
your
your
work.
A
A
Sorry,
sorry,
when
you
go
to
spend
time
in
the
lair
five
community-
and
you
say:
hey
hey,
what's
next
for
me:
do
I
have
an
openness
einman.
You
know
if
I,
if
I,
don't,
hopefully
you
guys
are
looking
through
the
various
issues
and
yeah
I
know
most
of
you
all
you'll,
just
pick
up
on
one
that
you
want
to
do
and
you
you
try
to
carry
it
forward
and
that's
that's
great
I
thought
I
would
mention
that
you
much
of
the
action
you
know
is
within
the
measure.
A
A
So
and
then
just
kind
of
finishing
up
that
thought
quickly
is
that
in
the
there's,
a
contributing
section
in
a
lot
of
the
repos
and
in
some
of
the
repos
that
contributing
section
Shubham
made
sure
that
it
it
pointed
back
to
the
main
massery
repo
anyway.
My
point
is
the
Help
Wanted
label.
This
link
right
here
in
most
of
the
repos
wherever
that
link.
Is
it's
just
filtering
on
that
specific
repo?
But
if
we
update
that
with
one
with
a
query
like
this
one,
you
can
look
across
all
the
repositories.
A
I
Bheema
kind
of
busy
days
for
me,
because
you
are
returning
from
home
so
and
Oscar
coming
here.
We
have
to
settle
it
again,
so
I
can
get
a
lot
of
time
to
knock
out
the
issues,
one
of
being
that
the
responsive
one
and
to
remove
the
duplicate
files.
So
we
moving
that
to
agree
and
soon
coming
over
nice.
Okay.
I
B
Just
imposed
in
my
life,
I
was
in
my
own
I
tracked.
The
kinds
of
missiles
and
currently
I
have
no
su
to
work
on,
but
I
will
assign
myself
on
that
particular
issue.
You
told
me
so
I
will
work
on
that.
You
know
my
all
previous
PR
are
done.
I
know,
I,
think
one
of
the
PR
in
which
I
earn
grease
or
have
worked,
and
it
is
still
open
also
in
misery.
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
Yeah,
so
Shubham
is
that
so
yeah
I
think
you're
totally
right.
We
need
to
close
out
the
original
enhancement
that
was
there.
You
you
killed,
it
I
mean
I.
I
know
it
wasn't
easy.
It
was
kind
of
a
big
app
that
was
actually.
If
we
go
look,
I
believe
that
was
it
was
a
big
enough
deal
that
we
ended
up
referencing
it
in
the
release.
Notes
of.
A
A
D
So
yes,
I
think
that
will
actually
be
a
good
thing,
because
when
we
want
to
compare
the
performance
of
multiples
of
these
meshes
having
the
same
song
club,
but
you
know
definitely
helps
a
lot.
So
that'll
definitely
be
a
good
thing
to
do
so.
When
we
start
marching
towards
a
common
code
for
the
rappers,
we
will
also
be
moving
these
sample
applications.
D
A
A
B
A
B
B
Actually
Leon
under
told
me
that
works
here
on
that
command
and
it
was
showing
to
me
so
he
sees
ETL
was
in
1.21,
actually
say,
stop
turned
off,
so
I
don't
know
the
password,
and
he
just
goes
so.
He
just
told
me
to
say
you
got
one
son
is
showing
in
dog
missus
it'll
come
on
that
he
was
working
on.
Ok,.
B
A
Yeah,
it
sounds
like
he's,
made
good
progress,
so
you're
able
to
run
Mary
CTL
and
have
it
display
back
a
version
number
and
then
next
steps
for
him
are
he's
going
to
move
that
code
to
retrieve
the
version.
Number
I'll
move
that
code
into
a
sub
command
called
version,
some
Mestre
CTL
version
and
which
will
be
great
I'm
slightly
concerned
that
the
version
number
that
was
coming
back
for
him
was
like
zero
one,
zero,
1.0,
2.1
or
0
1.2,
or
something
that
it
should
be
zero.
Three
one.
A
E
G
A
B
A
No
ok,
but
as
you
do
that
yeah
as
and
when
you
see
when
your
PR
lands,
we
will
see
a
new
entry,
it
will
probably
be
right
at
the
top
if
at
mesh
and
and
yeah,
when
you
hover
on
it
and
when
you
click
it
like
the
other
ones,
it
will
describe
app
mesh
specifically
and
when
you
click
it
it'll
probably
take
you
to
an
AWS.
You
know
an
Amazon
page,
okay,
okay
and
so
yeah.
You
know
it's
a
little
bit
of
the
task.
A
A
Each
of
the
variety
of
functional
capabilities
down
below
because
you're
in
your
PR,
you
will
have
an
entry
for
at
mesh
here
under
categories
will
be
relatively
simple,
but
down
below
you'll
also
have
an
entry
in
the
non
functional
llamo
within
which
different
you'll
need
to
do
a
little
bit
of
research
about
you
know
when
it
was
released
and
which
is
all
very
public.
Information
is
readily
available,
the
one
that's
probably
so
so
this
is
probably
pretty
easy.
The
one
that's
a
little
bit
harder!
A
Oh
actually
Shubham
just
mentioned
I
just
saw
your
message
in
chat
about
hey.
If
there's
a
you
know,
you're
saying,
if
there's
a
link
to
the
cube,
Khan
videos
or
specifically
to
Grisha
stalk,
you
know
to
share
that.
Absolutely
yes,
absolutely,
moreover,
since
you
guys
are
within
the
community,
you
can
get
early
access
to
the
slides,
which
is
going
to
talk
all
about
Messi
and
and
show
off
your
work
and
actually
I
was
chatting
with
her
she.
So
it's
gonna
show
off
mostly
the
NSM
adapter
and
you
guys
have
maybe
talked
to
her.
A
A
G
A
An
issue
that
was
just
opened
here
and
it's
the
ad
NSM
con.
That's
the
name
of
the
conference.
It's
it's
at
cube
con.
It's
a
sub
conference
called
NSM
con.
Add
the
NSM
2019
talk,
here's
a
link
to
the
schedule
where
you
can
see
measure
E
is
on
that
schedule,
but
Ola
and
gunjan
already
commented
and
I
totally
missed
this
yeah.
Okay
got
it
nice,
so
so
gungeon.
This
is
perfect.
A
This
is
actually
why
I
was
bringing
it
up
is
to
say
that
we've
given
a
number
of
presentations
and
we
actually
need
to
come
back
and
sort
of
backfill
post
all
of
these
presentations
and
so
I
was
just
I,
saw
it
so
gunjan.
It
sounds
like
I
owe
you
some
information
here,
but
I'd
like
to
go
I'm
gonna
try
to
go,
create
a
few
issues
so
that
you
guys
can
hopefully
help
and
assist
in
getting
some
of
the
prior
talks
up.
A
This
is
really
the
only
place
that
I
kind
of
keep
up
to
date
on
talks
that
are
being
given.
Sometimes
you
hear
me
talking
about
them
in
meeting
minutes,
but
I
don't
tell
you
guys
about
all
of
them.
Just
because
not
all
of
them
are
relevant
to
later
five,
so
I
mentioned
this
link
really
just
to
say
that.
A
Some
of
the
talks
that
we
need
to
go
back
and
represent
on
layer,
5,
IO
or
within
here,
because
some
of
them
has
very
much
so
been
about
mastery.
So
last
docker
con
there
was
an
open
source
summit
held
on
service
meshes
and,
and
we
and
boom
here
it
is.
We
were
talking
about
the
service
mesh
landscape
way.
I
showed
you
know
a
few
hundred
people,
the
landscape
and
I'm
curious.
A
A
B
D
I
A
Fantastic,
so
for
my
part,
I'm
we're
gonna
I'm
gonna
go
try
to
identify
a
Jekyll
theme.
That
is
a
good
starting
point
and
just
kind
of
start
start
iterating
on
it
and
and
pointing
you
guys
to
it
and
making
sure
that
you
have
permission
to
this
that
repo,
so
that
you
can
so
you
can
jump
in
and
a
lot
of
it
will
just
mostly
be
like
a
transcription
if
you
will
a
translation
from
what's
on
the
measuring
page
today,
just
a
different
format.
Hopefully
something
that
looks
better.
A
A
A
So
good
so
I'll
take
that
initial
action
I'm
to
go,
get
a
repo
going,
make
sure
you've
all
got
access
to
it,
get
a
try
to
get
a
Jekyll
theme
chosen
so
that
then
we
can
just
start
I'll
try
to
lay
out
the
colors
as
well
and
make
sure
that
you
guys
are
all
have
access
to
the
new
logos,
because
you're
gonna
need
to
reference
them.
I!
Think
a
fair
bit.