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From YouTube: Meshery Development Meeting (June 10th, 2020)
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Welcome Adheip Singh!
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A
A
A
C
A
A
A
B
Actually
Lee
again,
the
thing
is
that
you
know
for
me
that
one
particular
gem
file,
which
I
told
you
about,
could
you
suggest
me
something
I
mean
Versailles
so
far
you
know
whatever
changes
are
made
to
the
layer.
Five
I
have
probably
just
relied
on.
The
filter
takes
place
using
negative
five.
It
was
happening
twice.
Oh
no,
no
cookies.
A
B
B
Either
I
should
because
what
I
did
was
I
tried,
installing
different
versions
of
nokogiri
I
tried
downgrading
my
ruby
version
and
then
installing,
but
even
that
info
code
I,
probably
looked
up
all
the
different
stock
of
go
and
get
up.
You
know,
links
and
I
could
probably
find
and
tried
them
all,
but
I
still
couldn't
you
know,
get
it
running
either.
It's
just
the
problem
of
Windows
or
I
mean
I
did
try
it
on
Linux
as
well.
I
have
a
one
two
running
up
and
it
didn't
work
over
there
as
well.
I.
D
E
A
Think
previously,
we
had
already
upgraded
from
Jekyll
three
eight
seven
or
something
to
Jekyll
four
Oh
and
as
part
of
that,
I
no
need
to
kill
bumped
into
this
as
well
and
I
have
as
well
that
that
actually
I
think
Nikhil's
fix
ended
up
being
slightly
different
than
mine.
A
lot
of
times
as
we
switch
Ruby
versions
or
Jekyll
versions.
For
me
to
be
able
to
build
successfully
I
have
to
edit.
B
That
I
did
that
because
I
guess
either
you
told
me
to
do
it
or
he's
told
me
and
I
did
that
and
even
that
didn't
work
out
nickel.
Oh,
it's
usually
I
guess
when
I'm
doing
bind
and
installing
a
bundle
install
it
doesn't.
Let
me
install
nokogiri
because
it
throws
me
an
error
for
locally,
like
that
particular
gem
file.
E
Got
it
previously
much
of
a
few
weeks
ago,
when
I
was
working
on
layer,
5
site
on
the
front
end,
but
then
I
faced
the
same
issue,
yeah,
so
I
guess
at
that
time
my
issue
was
I.
Guess
regarding
the
ruby
version,
I
mean
I
was
I.
I
downloaded
will
be
using
the
sudo
apt
command
yahoo,
it
downloaded
the
Ruby
files,
Ruby
files,
but
few
of
them
were
missing.
So
I
went
up
to
stack
overflow
and
other
sites
and
then
uninstalled
it
and
then
downloaded.
E
Our
VM
Ruby
was
in
manager,
okay
and
then
through
our
VM
I
set
up,
but
I
set
up
my
Ruby
libraries
and
all
and
then
I
ran
the
few
commands,
like
bundle,
install
and
then
updated
the
bundler
to
two
point.
One
point
for
me:
I
think
by
default
it
gets
downloaded,
2
point,
1,
2,
1,
2
and
then
I
get
upgraded
it
and
then
use
you
bundle
this
Altima
and
then
interactive
and.
B
A
E
No
issues
you
can
get
in
touch
it
because
I
had
the
problem
and
it
took
me
2
to
3
days
so
to
get
out
from
it,
because
I
was
not
able
to
come
out
but
from
where
the
issues
come,
because
the
ruby
version
is
correct
but
still
I'm
getting
that
error,
and
it
was
not
updating
the
points.
So
you
are
also
getting
the
nokogiri
error
right.
Yeah,
yeah,
no
Coke,
81.
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A
A
So
so,
for
me,
most
recently,
as
I've
been
so
push
had
a
great
question
about
what's
the
purpose
of
the
feature-
spectrum
branch,
so
let's
talk
about
that
a
little
bit
and
actually
just
before
we
go
off
and
talk
about
that
for
ten
minutes.
I
want
to
make
I
want
to
give
context
to
and
welcome
a
deep
mr.
sing.
G
A
Nice
yeah
perfect
why
I
gotta
say
I
was
pretty
excited
to
see
kubernetes
controllers
kind
of
operators
as
part
of
your
ongoing
focus
in
part,
because
in
part,
because
I
have
promised
Nitesh
Mehrotra
who's
on
the
call
that
we
would
like
actually
do
a
few
of
those
and
I
made
that
promise
a
long
time
ago.
So
he's
exercising
patience
with
me
anyway,
good
for
you
to
meet
me
at
issues
on
the
call
as
well.
There's
gonna,
there's,
probably
some
common
interest
in
overlap.
A
A
Only
mildly
useful
collection
of
data
and
we're
working
to
make
it
to
take
that
data
and
transform
it
into
something
that
is
really
is
really
informative
for
people
who
are
trying
to
make
decisions
about
which
technologies
to
choose
and
why
and
where
they
are
and
understand
what
capabilities
they
have.
Well,
you
know
a
lot
of
things
and
so
we're
off
to
change
this.
A
fair
bit.
There's
a
branch
in
this
github
repo,
that's
called
that's
just
called
the
feature,
slash
spectrum,
because
we
want
to
bring
some
comparative
spectrums.
A
We
want
to
be
able
to
compare
and
contrast,
different
service
meshes
and
help
people
interpret
the
data.
It's
actually
probably
like
a
nine-month-old
effort.
A
number
of
different
people
have
worked
on
it.
You
would,
by
the
time
that
we
show
it
here.
You
would
think
it
would
be
a
lot
more
impressive,
but
it's
just
people
of
coming.
We.
A
So
this
is
the
at
least
I
think
is
the
current
version
of
what
that
branch
is,
and
so
yep
there's
about
three
different
comparatives.
If
you
will
they're
a
little
bit
different,
so
there's
an
enhanced
and
kind
of
different,
looking
tabular
format
for
helping
people
for
helping
train
people's
eyes
to
things
that
they're
looking
for
and
which
mesh
might
be
better
suited
for
them
based
on
functionality.
Mostly
this,
this
information,
isn't
this
information
is
halfway
accurate,
halfway,
accurate
and
also.
A
Just
a
mock-up,
not
a
mock-up,
it's
a
it's
an
implementation
with
bad
data
and
there's
another
way
that
we're
going
to
try
to
categorize
meshes
under
different
under
different
headings
and
it
described
described
them
actually
I
use.
Can
you
just
confirm
that,
in
this
format
and
disk
imperative
that
we
will
still
will
we
will
still
retain
the
ability
for
the
card
itself
to
have
the
white
description
underneath
or
we
just
shifting
over
to
the
tooltip
entirely.
A
Okay,
okay,
yeah
me
food
for
thought.
I
guess:
I'll
refrain
from
comment
justice
because
we
do
want
to
land
this.
So
then,
lastly-
and
maybe
most
interestingly
I
mean
this-
will
be
interesting
and
be
this
will
be
fighting
words,
so
to
speak
with
each
of
our
friends
the
service
meshes.
Hopefully
we
get
it
right
right,
like
most
of
the
data,
that's
here
for
gray
matter,
they
put
in
the
theater,
that's
here
for
Aspen
mesh.
They
put
in
same
thing
for
a
ten,
so
hopefully
it's
accurate
and
there
aren't
a
bunch
of
bunch
of
bickering.
A
Here's
one
that
if
you
consider
how
well
a
given
service
mesh,
it
will
scale
on
one
hand
on
one
side:
it
doesn't
scale
very
highly.
On
the
other
hand,
it
does
and
our
intention
is
to
land
show
each
of
the
surface
meshes
on
this
spectrum
say
this:
one
is
the
has
proven
the
highest
scale,
thus
far
versus
the
others,
and
just
have
a
number
of
these
comparison,
these
spectrums,
to
help
people
interpret
a
bit
more.
So
that's
the
effort
we're
about
there.
H
A
A
A
H
H
A
Sort
of
indicating
like
are
you
at
layer,
seven
or
you
know
how
close
to
the
code
versus
how
close
to
the
infrastructure
sort
of
speak.
Are
you
right
and
it
along
that
path
along
that?
You
know
which
one
of
the
service
meshes
it
might
call
to
you.
The
most
I
would
say
that
a
network
service
mesh
would
sit
way
over
here,
while
I
don't
know,
while
I'm
not
sure
which
one
I
think.
A
A
They're
sort
of
like
hey
is
that
driver
focused
on
underlay
or
overlay.
H
Yeah
I
mean
one
of
them
for
network
engineers.
Is
that
maintenance
for
a
admin
would
be
something
like
link
ready
is
the
easiest,
but
in
terms
of
features
that
developers
one
to
add
and
not
instrument
in
their
own
applications,
sto
would
be
the
choice
that
will
give
them
all
sorts
of
security
or
whatever
you
need
so
I
think
that's
that's
one
way
to
categorize
it
so.
A
This
this
is
actually
like
when
this
is
there's
two
things.
It's
like
a
when
this
is
done.
Visually.
H
A
Be
a
thing
will
go,
will
go,
you
know
pound
the
the
marketing
pavement
with
it
a
bit.
What
this
is
the
the
rationale
behind
where
things
landed
on
these
spectrums
and
what
spectrums
were
even
relevant
or
useful
service
mesh
interface
might
might
be
that
more
might
be
right.
Now,
I'm
Shiva
is
working
on
this
a
bit
and
the
intention
is
for
it
to
initially
just
continue
to
be
a
cable.
A
F
A
F
F
A
Manipulate
their
experience,
great,
they
might
choose
to
let
them
manipulate
their
experience
on
linker
D
versus
on
a
different.
You
know:
I
I
pause
just
because
Aspen
mesh
runs
differently,
but
but
we
might
say,
hey
look
experience
the
site
on
linker
D
experienced
the
site
on
East
you,
so
this
kidnapped.
H
We
could
just
have
some
visualizations
where
we
could
just
show
them
traffic
splitting
and
there's
a
really
good
example.
I
think
I
want
to
say:
Argo
has
Argos
canary
or
the
rollouts
I
think,
and
they
did
this
demo
with
just
different
color
spots
on
the
screen,
and
you
can
just
do
some
kind
of
slider,
which
would
visually
show
that
traffic
is
being
split,
and
so
something
I
have
to
play
around
with
the
features
to
yeah.
A
Absolutely
yeah
and
a
little
bit
of
the
unique
thing
about
it
is
that
what
well
there's
a
bunch
of
ideas
that
all
build
on
themselves
in
this
regard?
Well,
then,
you
really
can't
have
a
playground
and
a
learning
tool
and
just
like
play
with
kubernetes
comm
or
play
with
this,
which
actually
is
where
mastery
first
got
its
start,
where
we
were
first
delivering
some
of
the
the
initial
workshops
was
on
play
with
kubernetes
comm
yeah.
It
becomes
a
training
forum,
it
becomes,
it
becomes
a
marketing
tool.
A
It
becomes
I'm
a
unique
experience
that
that
that,
while
you're,
like
maybe
you're,
not
trying
to
play
and
learn
quite
as
much
and
step
through
like
a
sequence
of
of
labs
and
trainings,
but
rather
you
were
you're
seriously,
just
trying
to
learn
a
bit
about
the
partners
that
are
here
and
what
they're
doing.
But
if
you
have
a
small
console,
Service
mesh
console
or
something
else,
a
management
playing
console
where
you're
able
to
do
exactly
you
take
that
slider
and
and
manipulate
your
experience,
then
that
would.
A
Don't
know
any
of
these
things
to
brainstorm,
but
yeah,
so
are
you
should
ensure
by
I
think,
are
they're
they're
tying
off
this
effort
to
make
this
something
to
actually
talk
about
and
make
you
something
good
I
think
I
think
we're
gonna
land
this
this
week,
hopefully,
and
so,
should
I
did?
Did
we
miss
anything?
Did
you
want
to
troubleshoot
something?
No.
B
I
mean
like
nickel,
has
probably
this
you
know:
I
just
contact
them
office,
because
that's
the
only
thing
you
know
because
I
was
this,
you
know
editing
whatever
I
could
possibly
do
and
the
line
goes
in
the
net
if
I
to
actually
look
at
it,
I
guess
now.
If
it's
able
to
you
know
if
I'm
able
to
solve
it.
C
D
D
B
A
One
last
thing-
and
maybe
this
is
as
much
for
Nitish
or
naughty
poor
or
anyone
who
has
an
opinion
on
where
you
think
that
this
each
individual
service
mesh
land
on
these
spectrums
is
that
the
landscape
itself
is
just
driven
through
a
Yama
file.
I
think
it's
a
couple
of
MMO
files
right
now.
We
just
need
to
consolidate
down
to
one,
but
basically
like
hey
for
app
mesh,
does
it
have?
Does
it
support
G,
RPC
load,
balancing
our
yes
hey?
This
is
a
very
bad
example,
because
it's
sort
of
like
this.
H
A
A
These
guys
are
mostly
tying
off
styling
changes,
mostly
I'm,
not
giving
a
you
all
the
credit
that
he
deserves
for
what
he's
done,
but
there
had
been
a
prior
contributor
named
Sylvie
out
of
Canada
he'd
written
a
blog
one
he'd
written
two
blogs
on
what
he
had
done
here.
I
think
the
the
third
blog
that
he
has
it's
still
in
draft
and
unpublished,
but
it
talks
about
what
the
landscape
it,
how
he
has
created
these
comparatives.
We
haven't
published
it
because
the
comparatives
aren't
published
so
yeah.
A
Yeah
and
that's
right,
you
kill,
we
don't
want
to
push,
we
don't
want
to
spend
much
more
time
on
it.
We
want
to
get
it
done
in
any
other
comments:
landscape,
a.
A
I,
don't
know
that
content
calendar
is
quite
the
best
term,
but
but
a
calendar
of
well
of
blogs,
of
talks
of
meetups
that
folks,
within
this
community
or
organizing
or
speaking,
at
or
writing
or
publishing
or,
and
so,
and
so
a
few
of
you
that
are
on
the
call
are
tagged
here
to
to
produce
something
or
to
participate
in
something.
If
you'd
like
to
I'll,
say
I'll,
say
it
like
this
I'm
concisely,
and
that
is
that
there
are
there.
A
Can
there
are
continuously
any
number
of
opportunities
to
for
anyone
of
you
to
be
put
on
stage
if,
if
you're
not
already
doing,
if
that's
something
that
you
desire
and
if
you're
not
already
doing
that
yourself
like
this
landscape,
when
it's
done
even
though
this,
even
though
we
will
reincarnate
it
on
Gatsby,
it's
still
gonna
be
worth
talking
about
immediately
and
we
will.
And
so
my
point
is
that
content
calendar
sign
up
sign
up.
If
you
don't
have
an
idea,
but
you'd
like
to
do
something.
A
C
A
A
And
so
some
of
these
will
be
easier
to
accomplish,
potentially
than
others.
There
is
the
need
for
there's
much
duplicity
and
redundancy
across
the
adapters
in
terms
of
the
functionality
they
the
things
that
they
do
and
we've
long
talked
about
creating
a
central
shared
package
for
a
number
of
those
functions.
My
hope
is:
is
that
Raghav,
once
these
four
kind
of
done,
that
or
in
process
of
creating
those
for
the
he
might
bring
forth
the
start
of
that
centralized
package
so
that
central.
A
So
good
that
means
that
hey,
if
these
are
of
interest
to
you
or
you've,
had
experience
with
any
of
these
service
meshes
then
Raghav
and
cush,
as
his
mentor
will
be
happy
to
engage
with
you
or
if
you
just
want
to
learn
them
along
as
they
do
as
well,
then
this
is
a
perfect
opportunity.
Some
of
these
will
present
a
little
bit
of
different
challenge
than
others.
The
VMware
stands
new
service
mesh
I'm.
The
creators
of
that
mesh
are
in
our
slack
they're.
A
You
know
good,
you
know,
good
community
members
will
work
with
them
to
get
those
bits
so
that
we
can
create
the
adapter.
The
mesh
folks
have
long
been
in
contact
and
have
agreed
to
create
this
adapter
in
the
past.
We
need
to
reach
push.
I
can
I'll
assist
here
with,
as
Raghav
gets
his
feet
on
the
ground
and
it
gets
closer
to
mesh,
will
be
I'll,
be
reaching
out
and
making
sure
that
those
guys
are
either
directly
contributing
code
or
just
providing
some
review
and
answering
questions
the
same
for
admin.
A
So
these
so
these
folks
are
in
our
slack
they've,
been
on
our
calls.
The
same
for
AWS
and
at
mesh
they've
been
on
our
calls,
they're
in
our
slack
and
for
kuhmo
we're
actively.
I
guess
I,
oh
boy,
the
CTO
at
kong,
I
forget,
is
his
name,
but
he's
been
asking
to
meet,
and
so
part
of
our
discussion
will
be
on
this
adapter,
and
so
so
anyway,
point
is
hopefully
there's
a
bunch
of
help
we'll
be
able
to
get
that.
It's
done.
A
A
Another
item
that
I
thought
we
would
bring
up
is
Ashish
had
recently
I
think
this
morning,
or
today
created
a
no.
It
was
the
other.
Yesterday
or
anyway,
he
created
a
pull
request
on
layer
5
and
was
asking
to
or
looking
at
changing
one
of
the
CSS
styles
I
think
in
order
and
and
he
was
gonna
fix,
the
font
size
or
set
a
fixed
size
for
the
font.
That's
used
to
control
these,
or
this
particular
link,
so.
A
I
A
Good
and
it's
a
it's
a
worthy
cause
to
fix,
as
you
do,
I'll
offer
up
a
couple
suggestions.
That
one
is
that
you
might
look
to
a
different
CSS
properties
to
control
the
wrapping
or
breakage
of
a
given
piece
of
text,
because
what
you're
gonna
find
is,
if
you
fix
the
size
of
the
font,
it
may
stop
that
breakage
when
you're
at
when
you're
looking
at
it
at
a
particular
size
versus
the
next
or
if
you,
if
it
really
does
get
fixed
and
won't
increase
in
size.
A
Text
break
things,
there's
different
CSS
properties,
that'll,
probably
help
be
the
be
helpful
to
us
there
as
you
do
that
we'll
want
to
consider
that
it's
not
just
this
one
that
we
would
potentially
have
that
issue
with.
We
want
to
ask
ourselves:
should
we
be
applying
that
to
something
like
this
as
well,
because
this
equally
as
likely
to
suffer,
isn't
it
some
point?
You
can
see
it
right.
There.
A
And
so
yep,
as
just
a
special
note
kind
of
on
this
topic,
is
that
we
are
I'm
not
sure
if
we're
still
in
consideration
for
layer
5
to
participate
in
major
league
hacking,
this
go-around
I.
Should
I
what
you
haven't
heard
back
anything
further?
Have
you.
E
Had
one
thing
to
say
sorry
to
interrupt
you
while
a
shochet
is
working
on
the
footer
part,
the
language
is
subheading.
Is
a
bit
off
wait
if
you
can
see
on
the
same
thing,
it's
shifted
a
bit
downwards.
You
can
align
that
to
along
with
this,
we
are
on
the
being
with
the
languages.
Such
language
heading
is
a
bit
of
it
from
the
Contacts
part
and
the
truthful.
If
it
could
be
aligned
with,
then
it
would
look
better.
B
A
E
And
also
one
more
thing:
I
had
that
via
resizing
the
social
icons
that
is
in
the
contact
part,
that
is
a
meaning
slack
icon,
Twitter
I
can
get
a
part
on
reducing
the
screen
size,
but
it's
me
don't
do.
That
means
keep
the
size
intact
as
it
is.
That
is
the
40
pixel
current
rate.
Is
you
think,
then
also
it
would
look
good
in
so
on
reducing
the
size.
It
gets
a
much
but
much
smaller
than
expected.
I.
A
E
C
To
give
all
the
header
fields
like
the
request
agent
and
the
cookie
shield,
like
whatever
things
were,
sort
of
having
before
the
Cuvier
the
fields
we
have
to
keep
this
fields
when
the
toggle
is
off
and
when,
when
we
have
a
toggle
like
we
can
name
the
toggle
as
show
header
fields
and
all
of
these
three
I
think
there
are
three
fields
for
this
cookies
header
and
there
is
a
new
field.
I
can't
content,
yeah.
A
F
A
A
Okay,
beautiful
I
think
that's
exactly
what
cush
and
Nikhil
are
thinking
as
well
to
like
hide
these
advanced
options
by
default,
but
let
people
the
two
suggestions
that
I
have
are
one
is
that
eventually
we
will
get
to
a
visual
topology,
we'll
get
to
a
canvas.
If
you
will,
that
shows
where
various
services
are
and
that
we
will.
Ultimately
let
people
drive
performance
tests
and
invoke
performance
tests
using
that
visual
interface.
A
And
so
we
should
allow
them
to
save
this
profile
or
save
that
that
config
is
a
profile
and
call
it
back
up
so
performance
test.
Profiles
are
a
construct
that
would
help
on
this
interface,
because
people
can
fill
this
complicated
form
and
once
save
it
recall
it
later.
As
we
go
to
allow
people
to
schedule
performance
tests,
they
can
schedule
the
perform
a
given
profile
that
they
want
to
run
so
there's
a
set
of
features
constructs
to
be
brought
forth
there.
A
No
one
is
working
on
that
right
now
by
the
way,
but
that
is
described
in
in
a
design
spec
if
anyone's
interested
the
another
area
of
enhancement
with
respect
to
performance
tests,
khush
I
think
you
are
3/4
of
the
way
through
creating
a
fourth
tab
in
the
settings
area.
The
fourth
tab
called
performance
I.
C
A
Nice
so
you're
more
like
nine-tenths
of
the
way
there,
but
that's
nice,
because
yeah
now,
then
people
can
persist
their
preferences
as
a
global
setting.
So
this
is
another
topic
like:
what's
the
difference
between
user
preferences,
global
preferences
and
performance
that
someone
might
configure
and
how
do
these
things?
How
does
one
of
these
override
the
other
one?
What's
the
hierarchy
to
be
used
for
measuring
to
interpret
those
preferences,
that
too
is
defined
in
a
spec,
and
so
we
won't
go
over
it
today.
Rather,
I
will
say
that
these
are
certainly
topics
for
the
working.
A
A
A
Nice
all
right,
I
think
it's
the
last,
but
this
this
bit
here
was
in
part
to
poke
at
a
few
of
you
who
have
your
name
for
those
blog
posts.
Let
me
know
if
you're
stuck,
if
you
have
writer's
block
and
again,
my
solution
will
probably
be
to
punch
them
of
the
screen
in
front
of
me
to
the
extent
that
that
helps
it
make
very
good.
No
one
has
anything
else.