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From YouTube: Meshery Development Meeting (August 5th, 2020)
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Welcome @michaelgfeller!
B
Nice
very
good,
all
right
and
ankita-
is
here
with
us.
Give
me
one
a
couple
of
minutes.
If
you
would
I'll
grab
the
the
meeting
minutes,
we'll
kind
of
get
situated,
there
will
be
a
couple
of
folks
that
will
be
out
today
because
they
are
very
busily
working
on
an
announcement
for
tomorrow
and
we'll
talk
about
that.
But
give
me
just
a
few
minutes.
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Originally,
I
started
chemistry
quite
a
long
time
ago
and
right
now,
I'm
working
I'm
a
consultant
working
being
employed
at
the
company,
norway
and
right
now,
I'm
working
one
of
our
customers
and
looking
at
the
proof
of
concept
for
a
console,
collect
what
this
is
sort
of.
Like
my
first
time,
also
working
with
console
connect
and
about
some
time
ago
I
did
work
with
istio
100,
it's
quite
a
while
ago.
B
B
Well,
I
take
it
back,
I
think
the
director
of
product
management
and
then
there
are
like
three
pro
other
product
managers
for
console
because
there's
like
three
engineering
teams,
some
that
are
focused
on
service
discovery,
some
that
are
focused
on
forget,
but
one
of
them
that's
focused
on
the
connect
functionality
and
he's
in
the
slack
he's
quite
active,
very
nice
guy.
He
joins
the
calls
on
fridays
a
lot
of
times,
and
so
he
comes
to
the
right.
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B
B
Blaine,
oh
yeah,
nick
jackson
is
also
here:
yeah
yeah,
yeah
yeah.
No,
he
yeah
trying
to
think
of
a
bad
thing
to
say
about
that
guy
and
I
just
can't
she's
super
nice,
just
a
great
guy,
but
no
blaine,
whose
last
name
escapes
me
is
also
here:
they're,
both
pretty
active
yeah
they
they'd
love
to
you
know
we'll
have
to
have
some
conversations.
That's
great
nice.
Thank
you
for
coming.
Michael
is
good.
Thank
you.
B
B
Window,
I
think,
and
if
you
can't
then
you'll
say
something
so
so
so
many
of
you
are
familiar
with
this
spec,
but
if
you
aren't
really
briefly,
it's
just
an
it's
an
abstraction.
It's
a
set
of
apis
that
allow
you
to
interface
with
or
allow
people
to
adopt
service
meshes
using
one
api
surface
and
have
compatibility
with
the
surface
meshes
that
are
listed
here.
B
B
I
will
say
that
by
the
time
that
this
year
is
out,
we
will
have
seen
at
least
two
more
announced,
and
these
won't
be
small
announcements
and
both
of
those
will
be
very
prominently
supporting
smi
cool.
You
know
it's
good.
The
reason
that
we're
talking
about
this
is
because
we've
long
well,
yeah,
we've
long
had
a
project
within
meshary
to
create
a
set
of
smi
conformance
tests.
So
if
the
service
meshes
that
claim
to
be
compatible
with
these,
why
not
this
one
but
with
smi?
B
How
do
you
know
that
they
really
are
well
actually
I'll.
Tell
you
right
now:
almost
all
of
them
aren't
linker
d
is
or
they
have
varying
degrees
of
compatibility.
Much
of
it's
broken,
but
the
point
is
is
like:
there
are
no
set
of
tests,
no
no
tool
to
verify
that,
and
so
a
collection
of
the
contributors
here
have
been
working
on
that
and
building
that
into
measuring,
because
you
need
to
orchestrate
the
deployment
of
any
number
each
of
the
individual
service
meshes
that
claim
compatibility
and
then
invoke.
B
You
know
do
a
bunch
of
test
assertions
and
verify
whether
or
not
in
fact
the
service
mesh
is
compatible
the
service
mesh
at
that
version
and
at
that
version
of
smi
and
so
later
today,
in
just
a
few
hours,
we'll
demo
what
that
ability.
What
that
ability
looks
like
at
the
smi
community
meeting
and
considering
how
near
in
proximity
some
of
the
announcements
for
those
new
service
meshes.
B
Are
it's
a
very
timely
thing
for
to
show
off
some
of
the
work
that
the
contributors
here
have
done
so
keep
your
fingers
crossed
that
yeah
the
the
that
this
this
goes.
This
goes
through
I'm
kind
of
pointing
at
mystery,
but
I
should
be
pointing
at
like
this
doc
I'll
put
this
doc
into
our
meeting
minutes
and
this
talks
about
how
it
is
that
measurey
provides
conformance
testing
for
smi.
B
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B
B
One
of
those
categories,
the
most
prominent
one
that
it
does
where
it
has
most
of
its
functionality,
is
about
the
life
cycle
of
measuring
as
a
tool
like
standing
up,
measuring
and
caring
and
feeding
for
measuring
the
second
and
that's
actually.
What
shubham
is
talking
about.
The
second
category
of
functionality
is
about
invoking
performance
tests
and
not
doing
so
in
the
ui
which
you
can
do,
but
doing
so
from
the
cli,
which
becomes
important
because
we
have
an
agreement
with
well
with
any
of
the
service
meshes
that
you
can
prattle
off.
B
That
they'll
begin
to
incorporate
measuring
into
their
release
process
to
begin
to
publish
performance
tests,
so
they'll
have
they'll,
be
programmatically
interfacing
with
meshri
to
run
a
performance
test
with
each
release
that
they
do.
Maybe
each
build
may
probably
not,
but
probably
just
each
release
and
that's
in
part,
because
we're
standardizing
that
format
we're
standardizing
the
how
it
is
that
you
describe
and
capture
the
performance
of
a
service
mesh.
B
B
Is
able
to
or
or
of
the
commands
that
it
has
for
managing
itself?
The
system
commands
these
system
commands
mean
mean
measuring
this.
The
system
measuring
there's
a
few
there's
one
to
manipulate
the
configuration
of
measuring
the
server
another
one
to
look
at
the
logs
of
measuring
the
adapters
and
the
server
and
how
it's
running
one
two
start
measuring
one
to
stop.
I
want
to
give
it
status,
and
these
are
very
simple
things.
B
This
update
is
pretty
helpful,
which
will
go
out
and
pull
down
the
latest
version
of
meshri
and
then
there's
this
one
reset
and
shubham.
I
don't
know
if
maybe
I
downloaded
and
installed
your
version,
but
but
what
shubham
is?
Okay,
I'm
sorry,
I'm
getting
confused,
there's
a
reset
which
will
reset
your
mesh
reconfiguration.
B
If
you've,
you
know,
there's
different
ways
to
deploy
mastery
and
there's
different
options
about
how
it
runs,
and
so
you
can
reset
that
configuration,
but
there's
there's
a
kind
of
a
convenience
operator
that
had
been
suggested
a
little
while
ago,
and
that
was
in
case.
You
wanted
to
stop
and
start
mesherie
there's
a
mostly.
I
think
this
is
for
contributors
that
maybe
are
doing
something
with
measuring.
They
want
to
just
like
restart
it
with
ease
that
shubham
was
just.
B
He
is
just
describing
the
fact
that
he's
been
working
on
a
new
command
called
restart,
and
it
more
or
less
you
know
is,
is
this.
You
know
it
invokes,
stop
and
then
invokes
start,
the
goodness.
So
that's
the
code
that
chewboon
was
talking
about
and
what
we
were
reviewing
was
just
that
in
in
the
pr
that
he
has.
B
He
is
it's
just
a
couple
of
you
know
a
couple
of
simple
changes
like
a
lot
of
times.
By
the
way
new
contributors
who
are
working
on
go
a
lot
of
times.
They'll
find
that
a
lot
of
times
we
find
that
they
gravitate
toward
measuring
ctl
this.
This
small
binary,
this
small
client
in
part,
because
it
mostly
because
it's
a
bit
smaller
it's
easier
to
reason
over
and
to
just
kind
of
work
on
a
small
piece
of
logic.
B
B
And
so
yeah
just
so
it's
a
good
thing
to
introduce
everyone
here
too,
on
that,
if
you
guys
have
questions
about
the
pr
that
shubham
just
raised
you
might
you
have
to
talk
to
somebody
shubham
that
yeah
I
agree
we
should
we
should
we
should
merge.
That's
that's
what
I
was
looking
for.
I
understand
now
that
you
need
to
refactor
start
and
stat
start
and
stop
a
little
bit
to
pull
them
out
of
cobra's,
run
e
model
framework
and
into
their
own
functions
so
that
they
are.
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B
B
In
the
future,
we
I
had
said
that
measuring
ctl
has
these
two
air
categories
of
functionality
that
in
the
future,
it
should
be
one
of
the
major
things
that
mastery
does
is
support
provisioning
of
service
meshes,
and
so
it
has
that
ability
today
that
ability
should
be
exposed
in
measuring
ctl.
In
case
people
don't
want
to
do
that
from
the
ui.
B
G
H
Oh
hi
hi,
oh
okay,
here
when
I
did
the
pr
that
involved
me
putting
the
image
for
the
blog
post,
you
feel.
Actually
we
actually
tried
installing
the
ruby
installer
on
my
system
and
but
we're
running
into
an
error
which
I
think,
okay.
He
just
told
me
to
try
it
again
if
it
would
give
me
that
error,
but
I
haven't
tried
it
since
then,
though,
but
I've
installed,
ruby,
installer
and
some
other
stuff,
and
also
I
think
usama
osamar
has
done
the
setup
for
jql
on
his
system
too.
H
B
B
H
B
That's
a
that's
a
fantastic
question,
I'll
I'll
start
by
saying
within
the
measuring
team
drive
that
everyone
on
this
call
has
access
to.
If
you
don't
go
to
google
drive
and
just
see,
if
you
see
a
shared
drive
called
meshri,
you
should,
in
inside
of
that
team
drive,
there's
a
process
folder,
not
that
ruth.
B
You
know
the
or
40
repos
that
are
in
the
org,
and
I
don't
if
it's
a
point
of
interest
to
you
I'll
say
that
in
github
the
way
that
github
works,
it's
it's
recently,
it's
relatively
new
functionality
that
at
an
organizational
level-
and
by
that
I
mean
in
our
example,
layer,
five
io,
you
know
github.com
layer5io,
that's
the
org
name.
This
is
the
org
and
it
has
35
repositories.
B
The
way
that
github
works
today
is
that
at
an
org
level.
Finally,
like
and
I've
worked
with
github
a
lot
a
couple
of
years
ago
on
some
of
these
things,
but
is
oh,
is
that
you're
able
to
define
a
collection
of
labels
at
this
top
level
and
that,
as
you
create
a
new
repository,
it
will
inherit
these
or
automatically
get
these
labels
that
will
be
available,
so
you
can
assign
them
to
issues
and
assign
them
to
pr's.
B
Unfortunately,
you
can't
retroactively
apply
those
labels
to
existing
repositories.
So
there's
been
a
couple
of
contributors
in
the
community
that
have
been
helping
sort
of
manually.
You
know
create
these
and
I
would
you
know
and
the
the
more
active
repositories
that
we
have
generally
are
starting
to
have
all
of
these
and
and
then
okay,
so
good.
Hopefully
that's
a
little
bit
of
backstory
and
then
you
were
saying
hey
here
recently
it
looked
like
there
was
a
new
label
and
it
was
called
issue
slash
something.
B
B
B
H
H
Yeah,
so
I
it
has
documentation
the
bill,
so
I
think
I
wrote
back
down
9
40
on
mystery,
all
right
yeah
so
like
like.
I
have
like
three
three
issues
here
that
I
found
that
looks
still
and
probably
I
need
like
I.
I
want
to
work
on
them
since
they
have
like
documentation
label
so
probably
I'll
I'll
need
like
a
bunch
of
what
the
issue
is
about.
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H
B
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A
B
A
D
B
A
B
C
B
B
B
B
B
F
So,
just
now
what
I
was
thinking
was,
since
we
are
using
a
package
for
a
package
of
ruby
in
the
case
of
windows.
So
instead
of
downloading
2.71
7.1,
you
can
go
with
the
earlier
version
like
2.6.2
and
then
change
the
ruby
version
in
the
gem
file
from
2.7.0
to
2.612
and
try
and
do
a
bundle
install
before
doing
the
mix
8.
E
B
B
Weird,
okay,
so
a
couple
of
things.
I
think
that
that
was
actually
going
to
be.
My
second
suggestion
ruth
was
that
it
could
be
incompatibility
with
the
version
of
ruby
that
you're
running
and
the
version
of
ruby
that
this
site
is
kind
of
expecting
and
so
two
things
one
is
to
to
usama's
question
ruth.
B
The
second
thing
is
about
downloading.
You
know,
ruby
to
you
know
an
older
version
of
ruby
in
the
environment
that
I
generally
work
in
is
happens
to
be
mac
mac
os,
but
between
that
and
linux,
I'm
not
sure
for
windows,
and
it
may
well
be
there.
But
if
there's
a
utility
that
I
that
I
go
to
it's
a
ruby
version,
man,
it's
called
rvm.
B
H
B
B
Oh
okay,
actually
dude
do
you
mind
maybe
hold
on
one?
Second,
if
you
would
okay
thanks
all
right
so
so
there
had
been
an
enhancement
request
raised
in
the
measuring
repo
a
little
while
ago,
and
it
was
in
reference
to
the
the
documentation
that
we
have
for
for
the
mastery
project.
When
you
go
to
the
docs
depending
upon
how
you
want
to
install
mesherie
or
measuring
ctl,
like
maybe
you
need
to
run
a
few
brew
commands
or
a
bash
script.
B
You
know
copy
to
clipboard
button
and
if
you
go
to
the
layer
5
site
which
which,
by
the
way
this
needs
to
be
displaced
like
it's,
you
go
to
the
layer,
five
site
and
you
guys
have
seen
this,
like
you
know
a
million
times
like
you're
on
some
site
you're.
Looking
at
some
code-
and
I
say:
oh
oh
nice,
okay,
I
can
just
you
know,
click
to
get
that
into
my
clipboard
and
if
I
go
paste
that
somewhere,
you
know
like
right.
I
don't
know
why.
I
don't
know
why.
B
I'm
explaining
the
clipboard
to
you
all,
but
we're
sort
of
missing
that
convenience
operator
here,
the
utility,
the
small
bit
of
javascript,
that
we
used
on
this
site
and
it's
actually
the
same
one
that
we
used
on
the
meshri.io
site
when
you're
down
here
and
you're
looking
to
install
you
know
when
you're
looking
to
run
these
commands.
It's
you
know
we
just
use
the
it's.
Was
it
clip
it's
whatever
it's,
this
clipboard
js.com,
and
so
that's
the
conceptual
ask
is
that
we
would
you
can
leverage
either
the
implementation.
B
B
G
G
G
One
thing
I
I
just
want
to
ask
is
that
I
you
you
have
pointed
out
here
is
that
the
desired
behavior
is
client
side
formulation
should
address
this
issue
before
the
us
allowed
to
submit
form
means.
I
need
to
make
change
in
handle
summit.
I
miss
for
now
I
have
meeting
in
hence
submit
function,
so
whether
I
need
to
make
changes
in
this
function
or
I
need
to
make
change
in
hand
chain,
because
I
have
tried
with
handle
chain
also.
G
B
G
G
C
G
I
G
C
B
It
is
a
step
forwards
to
like
the
current
behavior
today
is
if
someone
doesn't
have
an
accurate
url
if
they're
missing
the
protocol
like
http,
https
or
whatever
in
the
future,
grpc
or
nats
that
currently
they'll
have
a
bad
experience,
it
will.
The
form
will
submit
if
it's
supposed
to
run
for
a
few
it.
The
the
test
will
fail
and
they'll
be
like
well,
what's
going
on,
like
you
know,
it
looks
like
measures
broken
or
something
well
turns
out.
B
B
That's
good.
We
could
accept
that,
and
kind
of
you
know
be
in
a
better
place.
We
should
challenge
ourselves
and
I'll
challenge
you
and
nikhil
to
noodle
on
this
a
little
bit
or
think
you
know
research
this
a
little
bit.
I
would
be
dumbfounded
if
react
or
material
ui,
the
things
that
we're
using
wasn't
flexible
enough
to
let
you
granularly
associate
a
handle,
change
event
to
a
single
text
field
to
a
single
input
on
the
form
that
would
blow
my
mind
and-
and
so
hopefully
that
helps
answer
the
question.
B
I
think,
between
the
audio
challenges.
The
two
of
you
guys
will
have
a
separate
conversation
to
figure
out
if
there
is
a
way
to
associate
a
handle,
change
to
a
particular
input
field
and
restrict
that
behavior,
as
opposed
to
being
form
wide
form
wide,
meaning
all
the
inputs.
But
in
the
meantime,
yeah
thank
you
for
improving
the
user
experience.
B
A
B
B
B
B
For
example,
fortio
is
capable
of
generating
grpc
load,
and
we
would
like
to
support
that.
That's
actually
going
to
change
the
the
so
so
to
answer
your
question
eventually,
what
we
will
probably
end
up,
having
is
more
of
a
radio
button
that
someone
would
first
choose
what
protocol
it
is
that
they're
looking
to.
B
But
nikhil
it
is
kind
of
funny
because
you
almost
sound
like
a
chipmunk,
sometimes
because
your
voice
comes
through,
so
I
can't
believe
I
could
call
you
a
monk
on
the
call,
but
anyway,
with
that
we're
over
time,
I
want
to
respect
everybody.
I
know
other
people
have
got
other
meetings
and
things
so
very
pleased
to
see
all
of
you.
This
is
very
nice,
we'll
catch
you
on
friday
for
the
community
call
which
may
be,
I
think,
just
from
michael.
B
The
community
call
is
a
little
bit
of
a
different
format
where
we
talk
about
things
more
broadly.
So
probably
I
would
expect
we'll
talk
about
like
smi,
conformance
and
stuff
like
that
there
as
well,
but
michael
you
you're.
I'm
only
saying
that
just
to
let
you
know
that
it
gets
even
more
interesting
than
it
was
today.