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From YouTube: Layer5 Websites Weekly Meeting (July 13th, 2020)
Description
A bit about React and Gatsby.
A
And
let's
get
going
so
nikhil
is
here:
josh
is
here
tenu's
here.
I
think
we
finally
this
week,
maybe
have
hit
our
stride
on
layer,
5
ng,
which
is
I
got
to
tell
you
pretty
exciting.
For
me,
I
was
pretty
exciting
when
we
built
the
when
we
you
know,
tanoosh
had
first
built
the
appian
theme,
but
now
now
we're
like
getting
into
it
now
we're
getting
into
plugins
we're
getting
into
site
map
layout
and
structure
to
news
is
preparing
us
for
migration,
with
you
know,
separating
out,
css,
etc.
A
A
A
I
I'm
still
kind
of
I've
got
my
my
eye
on
you
because
there's
some
association
between
you
and
tenush,
so
where
there's
one
bad
apple,
there's
probably
another
one,
so
we're
gonna
be
watching
out
and
by
the
way,
where
there's
a
little
bit
of
sarcasm.
There's
a
lot
of
sarcasm,
so
I'm
just
kidding
but
yeah,
so
josh
good
to
have
you
on
the
call
and
same
for
nikhil.
A
A
Layer5.Io
those
three
and
we're
creating
this
new
one,
there's
actually
a
fifth
one
to
create
as
well
for
service
mesh
performance
specification
and
but
the
reason
that
we
don't
call
this
call
sort
of
layer.
Five
sites
is
because
we're
really
trying
to
get
this
one
up
and
going
so
really
get
a
lot
of
focus
here.
A
A
B
A
Awesome
good
so
just
quick
recap
for
ishida
and
dhruv,
and
tunisia
and
josh.
I
guess,
is
that
we're
going
to
talk
about
layer,
5
ng,
but
just
a
quick
side.
Note
that
there's
a
new
new
static
site,
probably
just
a
quick,
jekyll
single
page
site
that
that
just
describes
this
initiative,
because
this
initiative,
this
performance
specification
is
likely
to
it-
has
all
the
signs
of
kind
of
growing
into
its
own
thing,
and
maybe
the
it's
really
interesting,
because
the
amount
of
lines
of
code
and
things
are
so
small
here.
A
A
C
C
That
could
be
something
cool.
I
feel
when
we
considered
a
responsive
design.
What
are
the
things
that
can
be
made
better
so
when
it's
a
mobile
design,
you
know,
if
someone's
looking
from
their
mobile,
there's
very
little
possibility
that
they
want
to
go
ahead
and
start
with
adding
istios
to
their
vm
or
their
local
machine
or
something
they
just
want
to
know
exactly
what
what
layer
file
does
and
how
they
can
use
it.
I
feel
also
how
they
can
be
open
source
contributors.
C
Also.
What
about
the
navigation
bar,
because
I
feel
like
if
we
have
way
too
many
things
on
the
navigation
bar
a
it
that
could
be
complex
b.
It
could
lead
people
to
get
confused
about
where
to
go.
So
is
there
a
better
way
of
navigating
through
these
sections,
because
when
I
did
like
a
site
analysis,
I
found
like
there's
a
lot
of
different
redirections
to
different
pages.
C
So
you
know,
maybe
we
could
add
breadcrumbs
from
material
ui
to
show
the
user
where
they
actually
are
so
just
so.
This
was
just
a
very
brief
analysis
of
our
current
website
and
I
feel
like
we
can
all
speak
about
all
these
points
and
maybe
add
some
more
suggestions
to
what
can
be
made
better
on
the
new
website,
and
then
I
did
a
site
migration
analysis
and
thank
you
lee
for
putting
it
on
to
another
excel
sheet.
I
think
that's
great,
but
yeah
so
this.
C
C
I
feel
like
we
could
do
that
as
well
and
yeah,
and
so
tags
is
only
for
you
know,
seo
and
stuff.
So
this
would
come
in
later
on.
We
have
the
page
description
or
what
kind
of
components
can
be
added.
For
example,
when
we
have
something
like
performance,
it's
infographics
text
and
images.
So,
but
it's
also
just
maybe
it
could
just
be
a
pop-up
on
one
page,
because
you
know
what
I've
learned
in
software
engineering
is
users
want
a
minimalistic
thing.
C
They
don't
want
to
keep
going
from
one
page
to
another,
so
what's
the
best
way
of
showing
the
information
that
we
have
in
the
shortest
time
that
a
user
is
going
to
be
using
our
website.
So
this
was
just
some
preliminary
research
that
I
did
and
I
I
think
we
can
work
on
improving
this
and
figuring
out
how
to
make
the
website
redesign
process
better.
C
A
One
of
them
is
like
really,
you
know,
sort
of
really
refining
the
size
and
shape
of
the
site
itself,
which
which
we
can
visually
look
at
in
a
little
bit,
but
the
other
one
is
yeah,
like
the
general
sentiment
that
well.
I
think
that
it's
true
right
now,
as
you
would
go,
navigate
the
site.
If
now,
it's
not
the
case
that
everyone
who
visits
the
site
has
the
goal
of
kind
of
wrapping
their
arms
around
the
whole
thing
and
and
with
and
is
asking
the
question:
hey?
What
can
I
or
oh
hey?
Who?
A
What
is
layer
five,
and
what
all
do
they
do,
meaning
that
they're
here
to
fully
digest
all
pages
they're?
Not
always
I'm
doing
that
I
mean
some
people
are
because
that
really
is
what
they're
trying
to
figure
out
is
like
yeah.
Sometimes
it's
competitors
that
are
trying
to
do
that.
Sometimes
it's
people
that
are
interested
in
the
space.
They
just
want
to
know
what
what
everything
is
that
that
you
know
this
group
is
doing
and
to
ishida's
point.
It's
not
all.
A
Neither
of
the
two
of
them
are
a
manifestation
of
a
grand
design
and
like
on
the
path
to
that
rather
they're,
both
just
an
iterative
thing,
that's
being
built
up
for
this
site.
What
we're
saying
is:
okay!
Well,
that's
been
good
that
served
us
to
a
certain
point
and
and
now
let's
go
ahead
and
lay
out
kind
of
what
a
grand
design
or
what
a
bigger
vision
looks
like
and
try
to
have
it
organized
around
that.
So
so
hopefully
yeah
some
things
like.
A
A
B
C
A
Yeah,
you
guys
are
right
that
the
about
us
is
intentionally
well.
It
was
intentionally
left
up
to
the
user,
the
visitors
imagination,
but
yeah
as
we
look
to
change
that
that
there's
kind
of
two
sort
of
about
us
is
if
you
will-
and
one
is
a
very
brief
one
and
it's
not
entirely
obvious.
But
if
you
hover
over
company
here,
it's
the
layer,
five
dot,
io
slash
about
directs
here
and
it's
pretty
minimal.
A
If
you-
and
it's
not
as
not,
maybe
not
necessarily
as
obvious
here.
But
if
you
hover
over
a
community
and
you
you
either
click
on
community
or
I
think,
if
you
click
on
join
yeah,
they
will
both
take
you
to
the
same
slash
community
page
and
this
one
you
know
like
it
has
words
that
describe
part
of
what
we
do.
A
A
This
is
this
is
good
that
it
is
calling
you
to
engage
it's
just
that
these
mecha,
what
we
really
need
for
people
to
do
like
if
they're
really
going
to
join
the
heart
of
the
community
like
it
or
not,
is
probably
inside
slack,
it's
like
once
people
get
in
slack,
they
can
be
engaged,
they
can
be
talked
to.
They
can
be
sent
a
bunch
of
different
resources.
A
Point
is,
like
I
think,
yoshida,
like
part
of
the
part
of
what
you're
talking
through
one
of
the
things
that
we
would
do.
Well,
to
do
is
ask
ourselves
sort
of
on
each
page.
What's
the
what's
the
behavior
that
we're
trying
to
drive
like
what
is
there
a
call
to
action
for
each?
You
know
on
any
of
the
pages,
and
there
there
should
be.
It
should
be
purposeful
that,
like
when
they
go
to
slash
community,
what
would
we
most
like
for
them
to
do?
A
A
A
A
Yeah
downloaded
an
ebook,
or
did
we
or
was
the
point
of
the
page
that
they
would
sign
up
for
the
newsletter
or
was
it
that
they
would
join
the
community
like?
I
think
those
will
be.
Even
you
know
essentially
like
it's
all
of
the
above,
that
we
would.
You
know
desire,
but
but
different
pages
will
be
optimized
for
different
call
to
actions
or
different.
A
A
A
One
of
the
things
that
we
had
desired
before
is
that
when
they're-
and
I
don't
think
it's
doing
it
right
now-
it's
not!
But
if
I'm
on
slash
community
that
there
should
we
we,
hopefully
we
can
have
a
visual
indicator
in
the
nav
bar.
That
does
like
highlight
the
fact
that
they're
on
that
a
little
bit
different,
I.
C
A
Yeah
and
then
just
to
be
to
be
on
guard
about
too
many
nav
items
to
yeah.
There's
there's
a
cut
like,
I
think,
between
your
comments,
ishida
and
the
kills
that
sort
of
the
the
question
like
hey.
What
do
we
do
here
or
like
hey
when
people
just
the
lazy
visitor
that,
where
the
visitor
with
the
lazy
eye
sort
of
navs
to
the
site,
and
they
just
kind
of
what
do
they
sort
of
lazily
pick
up
and
see,
and
what
are
they?
A
A
C
If
you
could
go
okay,
I'm
just
gonna.
Send
you
the
kubernetes
website
on
the
chat
and
yeah.
You
can
just
go
to
the
main
kubernetes
website
and
personally,
I
feel
like
humanities
was
the
toughest
thing,
the
toughest
concept
for
me
to
actually
work
with,
and
I
really
like
their.
You
know
the
small
icons
and
the
animations
that
they
have
the
graphic
stuff.
That
shows
how
you
know
you
can
scale
it.
It
won't
outgrow,
it
can
run
anywhere.
A
C
A
A
B
I
have
some
weak
idea
regarding
like,
if
we
add
a
virtual
tour
or
something
for
people
who
are
lazy,
visiting
the
website
and
to
like
they
can
get
the
maximum
of
the
website
because
they
won't
know
at
what
page
or
at
what
navigation,
what
they
would
be
finding.
So
if
we
can
take
a
separate
tab
or
a
separate
thing
for
a
virtual
tour
or
something.
A
B
Area,
yes
like
it
is,
it
was
written
in
the
document
that
we
are
having
some
live
environment
for
demo
kind
of
thing,
so
it
would
be
like
directly.
A
person
won't
be
jumping
inside
to
see
the
demo.
So
if
there
could
be
a
two
three
steps
beforehand
of
the
demo
part,
so
it
like
the
demo
would
be
a
lead
lead
after
some.
B
C
B
C
Right.
Okay,
thank
you
for
the
clarification.
I
think
that's
a
good
idea.
I
feel
like
that,
could
even
work
for
something
like
measuring
for
a
user
who
doesn't
know
how
to
add,
let's
say,
different
service
matches
on
nationally.
I
think
that
could
also
be
a
great
thing
to
do.
Just
have
like
a
interactive
tutorial
in
the
beginning.
A
Yeah
you
guys
are
right,
yeah
and
that
it
right
you
could
take
it
from
being
an
actual
playground
where
there
really
is,
like
an
instance
of
mystery.
That's
running
that
that
we're
just
running
meshery
as
a
service,
if
you
will
in
a
playground,
way
that
visitors
can
stop
in
and
you
know,
poke
a
mesh
or
poke
at
a
you
know
have
a
guided
tour
of
deploying
a
sample
application
kind
of
walking
through
some
of
the
features
and
functionality.
A
A
Well,
if
there's
a
small,
if
you
click
on
the
animation-
and
it
shows
you
that
traffic,
what
does
it
mean
to
load
balance
traffic?
Well,
traffic
comes
in
this
way
gets
split.
You
know,
hits
a
node
gets
split
out
across
them,
like
some
things
that
are
both
a
way
of
maybe
achieving
a
few
things
explaining
the
features
and
functions.
If
you
take
something
like
meshi,
it
sort
of
explains
the
functionality
of
measuring
does
so
visually
like
mashida
was
saying,
but
also
does
so
a
bit
interactively
so
that
people
can.
A
Enjoy
the
site
and
learn
something
at
the
same
time,
those
are
good
yeah.
We
we
this
that.
Those
reasons
are
in
part,
why
we
have
an
internship
sitting
out
there
for
folks
that
are
really
focused
on
like
css
animation
or
that
type
of
a
design,
because
because
yeah
there's
some
sites
that
where
I've
been
sending
around
examples
to
other
people,
I
don't
have
one
off
the
top
of
my
head,
but
that
they'll
have
like
full
length,
css
movies.
If
you
will
just
they're,
really
helpful.
D
Yeah
go
ahead.
I
had
some
doubt
clarification
on
what
do
we
want
people
to
see
when
they
land,
because
I
am
getting
a
hint
that
you
want
to
tell
them
what
selfish
messages
when
somewhere
in
between
what
we
are
making
like
mystery
or
smis
or
products.
So
what
I
was
thinking
is
what
you
were
talking
about,
describing
how
service
message
work.
We
could
have
an
entire
separate
page
like
learn,
solo
smith
or
learn
more
or
something
like
that,
because
I
don't
know
I'm
getting
a
mix,
yeah
healing
of
what
we
are
landing
on.
D
A
A
Well,
we
are
we're
recording
as
well.
So
this
is
not
that
anybody,
but
it's
a
bit
of
a
point
in
time
thing
where
there
is
over
time,
the
more
that
we
have
to
market
or
when
there
actually
is
potentially
product
offerings,
we'll
lean
into
and
shift
toward
talking
about
those
most
prominently
and
saying:
here's,
here's
a
product
or
here's,
a
solution
that
we
help
address
and
solve.
A
A
Well,
we've
got
these
different
products,
projects
that
you
know,
they're,
open,
source
projects
and
products
both
cons.
You
know
you
should
click
on
one
like
okay.
This
is
where
you
get
started
like
it's
a
bunch
of
learning
and
sequence
and
you
go
through.
I
don't
think
that
they
have
any.
These
are
videos.
I
don't
think
that
they
have
any
interactive
labs,
it
doesn't
doesn't
matter,
we
can,
but
you
step
through
a
sequence
of
learning
this
stuff,
and
this
is
awesome.
A
There
is
a
lot
of
learning
aspect
to
it:
you're
right
that
people,
the
keywords
and
the
things
the
the
inbound
links
and
the
things
that
people
are
searching
for
people
will
be
for
a
really
long
time.
There
will
be
people
still
like
typing
into
their
browser.
What
is
a
service
smash
like
or
there
will
be
ton?
The
the
majority
of
people
coming
will
be
like
how
do
they're
they're
still
learning
they're
still
learning?
A
I
don't
think
it's
something
that
will
or
I
don't
know
if
we'll
get
it
entirely
figured
out
on
this
call.
The
the
probably
the
thing
that
I
would
say
that
we
would
be
successful
in
achieving
and
makes
a
ton
of
sense
is
just
is
a
bit
of
what
ishida
was
saying
about:
here's
some
nice
visuals,
hopefully
they're
animated.
That
say
this
is
what
we're
talking
to
you
about
like
when
we
say,
no
doubt
no
one
in
there,
no
one
in
the
world
other
than
like.
A
A
Okay,
but
like
a
visual
animation
or
a
slight
example,
or
something
like
these
are
excellent
resources.
I
think
I
think
yeah.
This
is
why
we're
redoing
the
whole
site,
so
we
will
have
to
put
up
we'll
have
to
do
some
designs
we'll
have
to,
and
I
think
most
of
you
I
haven't
heard
someone
say
something
that
didn't
make
sense.
I
mean
so.
E
A
He
has
written
a
blog
post
that
talks
about
some
of
the
things
he's
learned
about
istio
and
in
his
blog
post
he
calls
out
layer
five
in
the
first
paragraph
saying
you
know,
I've
been
using
these
resources
and
engaging
with
this
community
and
and
he
posted
it
on
his
personal
medium.com,
blog
beautiful,
okay
also,
he
would
like
it
if
we
helped
elevate
his
content
and
he
might
like
to
publish
that
on
our
site.
Well,
even
though
he's
a
cloud
architect,
he
didn't
necessarily
really
good
with.
A
He
would
have
he's
not
very
good
with
git
at
all.
So
so
point
is
that
strappy
is
potentially
there
for
those
that
need
a
word.
A
content
management
system
like
a
wordpress
style
web
app
to
sign
into
and
create
a
blog
post
using
and
if
we
could
so
that
we
can
assign
sort
of
the
appropriate
levels
of
permissions
for
folks,
so
that
people
can
do
like
a
quick
preview
of
what
they
think
their
blog
post
is
going
to
look
like.
A
A
A
This
site
map
is
a
good
one,
like
hey
one,
so
ishida,
just
like
on
the
topic
of
this
site
map
as
a
plug-in
this
plug-in
here,
I'm
assuming
it
should
it
should
be
generating
a
quote
site
map,
because
that's
a
specific
thing-
and
I'm
sure
you
guys
know
this
already,
but
there's
a
a
jekyll
plug-in
jekyll
gem
or
a
jekyll
plug-in.
That's.
If
you
go
to
layer,
five
dot,
io
sitemap.xml
it
will
it
will.
C
A
There
are
a
couple
of
free
tools
out
there
that
will
let
you
take
this
url,
that
it'll
read
the
xml
and
try
to
visually
diagram
it
for
you
like
create
the
layout.
I
tried
a
couple
really
quick,
but
they
were
they
weren't
getting
the
job
done.
They
were
either
limiting
it,
limiting
it
to
like
50
links
or
anyway,
I
only
used
one
really
quickly
and
then
instead-
and
maybe
this
is
a
good
transition
into
the
next
topic.
A
Instead,
I
just
laid
it
out
whoops
I
was
gonna
use,
google
draw
and
thought:
well
it
doesn't.
It
was
gonna,
be
more
of
a
pain
and
then
and
that
this
would
be
easier.
This
draw.io,
so
all
of
you
that
have
access
to
our
drive,
you
should
have
access
to
draw.io,
as
well
as
a
free
thing
that
turns
out
like
draw.io.
A
Wasn't
that
much
was
just
about
as
painful
as
I
think
google
draw
was
going
to
be,
it
doesn't
matter.
We
can
export
this
and
stuff,
but
maybe
we'll
let
this
soak
in
for
a
second
just
because
there
are
one
two,
three,
four,
five,
six,
seven,
eight
nine
top
level
landing
pages.
If
you
will
nine
top
level
like
doesn't
necessarily
mean
that
all
of
them
need
to
be
exposed
that
we
would
have
nine
menu
items.
A
So,
as
you
guys
take
a
look
at
this
and
think
about
that,
or
be
aware
that,
when
at
least
when
I
we
can
have
multiple
versions
of
this,
but
at
least
when
I
was
thinking
of
this
and
laying
it
out,
I
wasn't
necessarily
thinking
okay
well.
So
since
this
is
a
top
level
thing,
it
has
to
be
exposed
on
the
menu.
Maybe
that
is
how
we
need
to
re
redraw
this
to
say.
Well,
no,
look!
This
should
be
reflective
of
the
menu
itself,
and
so,
if
that
was
the
case,
this
landscape
would
go
under.
A
A
Short
or
these
little
guys
right
here-
I
I
I
was
intending
for
these
to
mean
that
the
green
was
this.
This
dark
green
was
top
level
was
available
as
a
slash
layer,
five
dot,
io,
slash
partners,
slash
open
source,
learn
that
some
of
the
the
second
tier
links
would
also,
while,
like
conceptually
they're
categorized
like
books,
they're
categorized
under
learn
and
as
we
lay
out
the
site
like
books,
should
be
exposed
in
terms
of
like
the
learn
area.
A
A
Hopefully,
all
of
you
should
have
access
play
with
it.
Do
you
create
a
copy
of
it
and
do
a
different
one?
Just
like,
I
think
the
thing
that
ashida
was
more
or
less
saying
earlier
is,
thank
goodness,
as
she
went
through
and
did
you
know
some
semblance
of
a
site
analysis
and
started
asking
questions
and
laying
out
the
all
the
links,
the
the
same
thing
here
that
this
is
out
here
for
everyone
to
beat
up-
or
this
is
a
good
straw,
man
and
a
starting
point
so
think
of
think
about
this.
A
A
A
This
is
another
example
of
like
on
layer,
five
io
today,
you
don't
there
isn't
a
contact
us
like
right
at
the
now
in
the
footer,
though
there
is
a,
it
doesn't
say
us,
but
there
is
a
contact,
and
on
that
page
it
has
it
basically
link
it
doesn't
take
you
any.
You,
don't
really
go
anywhere
from
here.
You
can
go
over
to
the
partners
page,
you
can.
You
can
click
to
email,
us
click
to
email,
us
or
you
can
go
over
to
the
careers
page.
A
A
D
A
A
What
are
those,
and
what
do
those
mean?
Is
that
does
that
mean
like
a?
I
assume,
it's
it's
kind
of
like
a
jekyll
collection,
or
it's
kind
of
like
you'd,
say
well,
there's
a
data
model
for
books,
because
that's
a
now,
it's
kind
of
like
designing
a
database
like
hey
that
books
are
a
noun
we're
going
to
have
multiple
books
workshops.
That's
another
data
model
like
we're
going
to
have
multiple
of
the
or
events.
That's
a
data
model.
There
are
different
types
of
events,
there's
webinars,
there's
meetups.
E
D
A
I
guess
these
links,
I
think
the
links
that
we
have
here
as
things
to
take
inspiration
from.
I
think
this
was
more
overall
design,
but
a
little
less
about
what
you
were
hitting
on
before
it
was
like
hey.
What
do
we
do
here
like,
and
how
do
you
explain
that
quickly
to
people
like
get
it
when
they
drop
onto
the
site,
and
these
probably
aren't
good
examples
of
that
they're
good
examples
of
like
sexy
design,
but
it
might
be
one
of
those
things
that
for
next
week
there
are
yeah.
D
C
A
A
Nice
cool,
okay,
great
now
that
I'm
in
I
can't
wait
yeah!
Let
me
let
me
go
update
that
all
right.
What
else
did
we
miss
like?
We
should
talk,
really
try
to
talk
about
some
concrete
next
steps
for
just
some
of
the
advancements
on
gatsby
itself,
like
plugging
in
you
know,
turning
on
the
plug-ins
like
showing
that
ingesting
in
markdown
can
work.
A
Maybe
the
mechanics
by
which
you
know
a
little
bit
of
instruction
for
everyone
here
about
how
it
gets
built
or
like.
I
know
that.
There's
whole
sets
of
topics
on
creating
custom
components
which
we're
probably
not
quite
ready
for
yet
and
because
it
part
of
that
will
be,
will
come
from
the
analysis
that
that
ishida
will
be
doing
and
kind
of
how.
It
is
that
we
want
to
explain
the
site.
B
B
B
A
B
F
A
B
A
A
To
news
you
pulled
out
all
the
css
that
was
embedded
in
line
in
the
blogs,
helping
prepare
for
migration,
so
to
news.
Maybe
if
you
would
would
it
make
sense
if
you
took
the
markdown
plug-in
and
the
file
system
plug-in?
I
think
if
you
enabled
those-
and
maybe
next
week
are
able
to
demonstrate
how
it
is
you're
able
to
ingest
markdown.
Like
a
you
know,
a
blog
post
and
display
that
in
the
existing.
A
A
B
A
A
A
A
F
F
A
A
Now
or
I
wouldn't
like
you,
can
those
pr's
can
be
merged
in
the
other
area
as
well?
Right,
I
I
think,
maybe
to
news
you
can
you
can
try
just
taking
a
clone
or
a
copy
of
the
ng
site,
moving
it
into
the
layer,
5
repo
pushing
it
in
I
mean
you,
don't
have
to
disrupt.
What's
going
on
there,
you
can
just
do
an
early
copy
move
it
over
see
if
it
builds
on
the
new
on
on
the
exist
on
the
same
repo
and
if.