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Layer5 Websites Meeting - June 28th, 2021
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A
Hey
everybody
welcome
it's
it's
the
june
28th,
the
lair
five
websites
meetings
meeting
call
and
today
is
the
first
website's
meeting
call
since
measuring
and
service
mesh
performance
have
been
adopted
into
the
cncf.
So
that's
big
news
for
the
projects.
It's
been
part
of
the
plan
all
along
for
the
projects
and
so
as
they
enter
into
the
cncf
that
it
means
very
few
changes.
Most
of
what
we
do
is
we'll
continue
to
just
to
be
the
same,
we'll
continue
to
steward
and
shepherd
both
measuring
and
service
mesh
performance.
A
A
Well,
the
projects
themselves,
both
just
a
couple
of
tweaks
on
their
websites
to
list
them
as
cncf
member
projects
and
then
there's
a
couple
of
updates
to
move
the
repositories
around
and
really
just
some
administrative
chores,
but
other
than
that.
It's
a
great
it's
a
nice
step
for
the
projects.
They
should
get
a
few
new
eyeballs
on
them.
A
few
new
people
coming
by
to
try
them
out
and
maybe
contribute
to
them,
and
so
for
a
lot
of
you
who've
been
here
for
some
time.
A
It's
nice
for
all
of
you
in
that.
Well,
one
the
projects
that
you've
been
working
on
the
work
that
you've
been
doing
only
gets
more
and
more
popular
only
gets
more
and
more
recognized.
So
that's
great!
So
that's
that's
the
announcement.
Does
anybody?
Have
anyone
have
questions
on
what
that
means
to
us
or
any
questions
on
the
projects
going
into
the
cncf.
A
If
they
come
up
later
I'll,
be
you
know
just
hit
me
in
slack
or
or
any
of
the
community
demand
community
managers
or
mesh
mates
so.
B
Okay,
so
congratulations
to
the
entire
community
julie
and
the
entire
community,
so
we'll
move
on
to
the
today's
topics.
First,
one
being
the
updates
needed
on
measuring
and
smp
websites
for
inclusion
as
member
projects.
So
as
lee
mentioned,
that
the
projects
have
been
accepted
into
the
cncf,
so
now
this
news
has
to
be
propagated
on
to
both
of
those
project
websites.
B
So
both
project
websites
are
currently
decide
based
and
the
first
one
being
for
the
mastery
dot
io
website.
So
enough,
like
the
issue
has
been
created
and
if
you
feel
you
can
just
you
just
want
to
start
contributing
from
this
issue
to
mastery
dot
io
or
want
to
try
some
of
your
hands
on
jekyll.
Then
you
can.
You
are
invited.
You
are
free
to
take
up
this
issue,
the
other
one
being
a
very
similar
issue
for
the
another
website
that
is
smp
spec.
So
I'll
just
show
you
both
of
the
websites
as
well.
B
So
this
is
the
first
website
that
is
the
mastery
dot
io,
which
is
a
project
specific
website
for
the
mashery
project,
and
so
where
is
the
yeah?
So
this
is
the
section
that
is
being
mentioned
in
the
issue
as
well
like.
This
is
the
older
change
that
was
made
when
mastery
was
listed
into
the
cncf
landscape.
B
But
now,
as
mastery
project
becomes
a
part
of
cncf,
so
this
section
can
be
updated
with
the
new
information
which
is
stated
as
to
write
it
as
measure
is
a
cncf
project
and
similarly,
similarly,
the
second
one
being
the
smp.
So
a
section
should
be
created
for
this
website
as
well,
showing
the
cncf
logo
and
stating
that
it
is
a
service.
Mesh
performance
is
a
cncf
project.
B
So
these
two
issues
are
like
good
first
issues
and
if
you
want
to
start
contributing,
you
can
just
take
them
up,
and
if
you
require
any
help
you
can
just
ping
ping.
You
can
ask
on
the
issue
or
slack
any
any
like
there
are
people
who
will
just
help
you
out
on
any
of
those
channels,
the
okay.
So
any
questions
regarding
the
first.
A
Topic
yeah.
I
think
each
of
the
issues
have
okay,
you
did
you
talk
about
copyright
notice
as
well.
That
there's,
I
think
each
repo
has
a
couple
of
issues.
The
other
one
is
even
easier.
It's
just
a
copyright
notice
at
the
bottom
of
the
footer.
I
think
it's
in
there
and
or
maybe
yeah.
C
A
Maybe
that
was
included
in
the
same
issue
on
the
mastery.io
site,
but
either
way
they're
great
starter
updates.
A
If
somebody
wants,
if
someone
is
interested
by
the
way,
just
as
a
quick
reminder,
especially
for
nithish
who's,
been
here
for
some
time
and
well
actually
so
so
a
lot
of
you
guys
are
about
in
the
same
boat
sit
down.
I
think
you're
you're
not
in
the
same
boat.
Just
yet,
but
I'd
love
to
see
you
there,
and
that
is
that
both
sayadan
and
the
dish
had
recently
been
invited
to
join
the
layer.
Five
io
github
organization,
because
they
keep
contributing
and
they
keep
making
an
impact.
A
So
now
that
their
users
are
now
that
their
github
users
are
members
of
the
github
org,
the
layer,
five
io
github
org,
they
they
have
permission
to
like
update
issues,
whether
the
issues
were
created
by
them
or
not.
And
so
we
don't
always
explicitly
say
this.
But
it
is
the
case
that
one
they
can
now
self-assign
issues
if
they
want
to
pick
them
up
and
take
them
they
can.
Anyone
can
create
issues,
but
now
also
they
can
update
existing
issues
that
they
didn't
create.
B
A
Yeah,
yeah
and
and
that's
a
good
point
that,
like
everyone,
can
review
prs
made
by
anyone
else
so
and
it's
it's
helpful.
It's
a
good
way
to
learn
as
well.
B
Okay,
so
moving
on
to
the
next
topic
that
was
to
change
the
password
complexity
requirements
so
initially
I'll
just
give
a
brief
about
the
issue.
So
we
have
a
discussion
forum
or
hosted
on
discuss
dot
layer,
fair
total,
which
is
a
discourse
instance
running
customized
instance
for
layer.
Five,
the
discussions
related
to
service
mesh
and
community
and
open
source
are
being
made,
and
you
can
also
join
any
of
the
discussion
or
post
your
own
discussions
and
be
a
part
of
the
discussion
forum.
B
So
if
you
don't
have
an
account
just
type
down
the
url
and
create
an
account,
the
next
thing
is
so
the
password
specification
was
like
it
was
before
the
change.
It
was
to
be
made
up
to
10
characters
like
the
complexity
was
to
have
at
least
10
characters
which
is
now
reduced
as
one
of
one
of
the
user.
A
Yeah
yeah
victory's
sort
of
focused
on
user
experience,
yeah
user
experience.
D
C
B
So
that's
just
a
minor
change,
but
the
point
of
showing
the
discussion
forum
was
because,
if
you
wish
to
contribute
by
discussions
or
contribute
to
the
code
or
anything
you
are
welcome,
you
can
just
ping
me
and
I
also
show
once
the
demo
of
how
to
contribute,
because
in
the
past
week
there
were
many
questions
about
how
do
we
make
changes
to
the
code
of
discuss
dot
player
factor
tile?
B
B
E
B
Okay,
so
recently
there
have
been
some
good
amount
of
updates
for
the
learn
energy
part
of
the
effect,
which
involves
developing
learning
paths
for
different
service
measures
and
working
with
service
members,
and
not
so
we
are
trying
to
complete
one
of
the
course
which
is
the
hands-on
history
service
mesh
installation
for
one
of
to
complete.
One
of
the
course
we
are
right,
like
initialists,
are
almost
migrated,
the
data
for
one
of
the
course
and
all
the
chapters
that
are
required.
B
This
page
was
recently
updated.
Last
week
it
was
the
pr
was
submitted
by
chinmin,
which
adds
this
page
this
list,
all
the
courses
that
are
there
in
the
learning
part,
and
this
would
be
the
prerequisites
required
for
any
of
the
course
or
most
of
the
course
to
start
off
with
which
deals
with
the
user
to
suggest
him
to
install
michelle
and
have
it
running
and
all
the
steps
required
for
it.
B
I
have
the
chapters
have
been
migrated
by
nisha
this
week
itself,
though
they
are
not
in
order,
but
it
would
be
I'm
working
on
a
pr
to
fix
the
table
of
contents
and
after
that,
this
should
be
in
order
so
yeah.
So
for
a
chapter
we
have
the
table
of
components
which
would
filter,
which
would
highlight
the
current
chapter,
which
is
being
highlighted,
and
also
the
chapter
in
between
this
was
the
update
for
development
that
we
have
in
the
last
week
compared
to.
F
A
Wow,
that's
there's
a
lot
here.
This
is
there's
a
lot.
Not
only
is
there
a
lot
here,
but
but
it's
looking
quite
a
or
a
fair
bit
better
as
well.
Do
we
have
on
the
the
learning
paths
or
wow,
even
the
link
to
last
night
on
the
learning
paths?
A
Well
landing
page,
so
to
speak
like
where
we
had
three
or
four
cards.
Do
we?
Oh,
I
see
okay
got
it
good
good.
B
C
B
A
Right,
I
mean
it
might
be
well,
if
you
think
about
it
like
for
a
given
learning
path.
There
are
x
number
of
videos,
next
number
of
labs
x,
number
of
maybe
interactive
labs
and
then
those
those
are
embedded
down
beneath
inside
of
the
courses
and
then
inside
of
the
course
content,
and
so
it's
still
so
like
ultimately
they're
embedded
somewhere.
A
It
might
make
sense
that
that
you
would
still
show
videos
or
lectures
here
if
you
know
if,
if
those
labs
have
them
inside,
maybe
not
like,
like.
I
think
one
of
these
represents
a
lecture,
and
so
you
know
potentially
not
the
lectures,
but
maybe
labs
or
videos,
possibly.
A
A
A
And
it's
not
that
we
can't
deviate
necessarily
from
these,
but
so
the
generic
version
it
starts
out.
The
top
level
is
a
learning
path
and
then
there's
like
the
the
name
of
the
learning
path
and
then
there's
the
individual
labs
labs.
Might
I
think,
actually
you
know
up
above
like
yeah
right
there,
where
it
says
service
that
that
should
probably
say,
coarse
yeah,
because
actually.
A
See
okay,
so
we
have
learning
path
course,
section
lab,
so
the
section
this
is
something
I
couldn't
put
into
words.
Foreign.
Last
week
I
was
stumped.
He
was
asking
about
the
design
and
I
was
kind
of
stumbling
to
articulate
clearly
how
it
is
that
a
given
learning
path
that
they're,
basically
alternative
versions.
E
A
Or
for
a
course,
there
are
alternative
versions
that
you
might
want
to
walk
through.
You
might
want
to
walk
through
a
course
on
securing
a
service
mesh,
but
you
might
want
to
do
it
from
the
perspective
of
console
or
from
the
perspective
of
istio,
and
that
section
that
section
concept
it's
less
of
a
it's,
probably
less,
of
a
hierarchy
as
much
as
it
is
like
a
it's.
It's
a
version
like
you
know,
it's
it's
a
category.
It's
a
type.
B
A
Yep
that
that
works,
because
it
you
end
up
with
the
same
result,
you
end
up
with
the
end
artifact
that
someone
is
looking
at
that
leaf
node.
So
to
speak
like
the
is,
it
ends,
it's
still
a
lab
and
it's
still
surface
mesh
specific.
So
if
we,
if
those
two
were
swapped,
it
would
be
called
the
mutual
tls
lab,
but
it
would
be
under
in
context
of
either
istio
or
consolation.
Yeah
that
definitely
works.
B
So,
okay,
so
the
thing
is:
should
we
actually
mention
lectures
like?
Is
this
necessary?
I
because,
based
on
the
content
that
we
have
right
now,
even
if
we
start
migrating
the
linkedin
workshop
and
the
advanced
history
workshop,
I
don't
think
like
there's
a
any
lectures
differentiated
between
chapters.
A
Right
yeah,
oh
yeah,
not
re,
it's
kind
of
a
t,
it's
a
little
bit
of
a
tbd
like
I
don't
know
because
well
like
when
we,
when
we
have
delivered
the
labs
in
the
past
or
the
workshops
that
basically
the
the
course
then
like
when
we've
delivered
a
workshop
in
the
past
and
you
walk
through
the
eight
labs
or
so
it's
like,
okay.
Well,
you
can
imagine,
as
we
like.
This
is
a
good
example
like
right
here:
here's
the
la
like
for
every
lab
or
I'm
sorry
for
everything.
A
That's
called
a
lab
every
jeez,
so
to
speak.
Every
every
like
of
these
eight
things
that
we
have
there
was
a
written
part.
I'm
sorry
there
was.
There
were
slides
and
sort
of
presentation
like
conceptual
presentation
as
to
what
this
content
is
like.
What
a
destination
rule
is,
and
then
the
other
portion
of
the
time
was
spent
on
the
actual
lab
like
so
this.
A
A
Yeah,
it
would
be
a
little
okay,
so
fine
that
that
would
mean
like
every
course
er.
I'm
sorry,
every
every
lab
that
we're
listing
it
over
here.
It
would
have
like
one
lecture
and
maybe
a
couple
of
videos,
but
every
single
one
of
them
would
have
one
one
lecture
and
then
so
you
ask
yourself
like
well
is
that
does
that
make
sense
or
like
at
the
moment
like
it's
a
and
I
think
until
we
come
back
to
refine
the
content
itself,
it
might
be
hard
to
know.
A
And
so
yeah
maybe
do
away
with
both
the
videos
and
the
lectures
I
mean
it.
We
can
always
easily
like
fairly
easily
undo
that
so
right,
so
we
should
probably
we
should
probably
move
forth
with
your
perspective,
like
we
should
probably
move
forward
with
the
design
that
you
have
and
and
later.
If
we
figured
out,
we
really
needed
to
expose
the
number
of
lectures
or
the
number
of
videos
we
can.
You
know
always
do
that.
B
A
Here's
one
thing
one
thing
for
all
of
us
to
think
about
to
look
at
here.
So,
okay,
so
I'm
a
user
or
I'm
a
learner.
I've
come
here.
I
want
to
be
introduced
to
like
to
take
the
example.
This
is
I'm
being
introduced
to
service
meshes
with
hands-on
labs.
Okay,
okay,
nice,
good,
good
yeah.
There's
like
there's
like
eight
lectures
here,
a
few
videos:
okay,
nice
all
right,
I'll
click
get
started,
or
maybe
I
won't
maybe
I'll
scroll
down
whatever
now.
Okay,
so
this
is
it
like
right
now?
A
A
Knowing
that
my
question
becomes
the
the
service
meshes,
you
can
learn
section.
I
think
that
that
is
intended
to
be
the
switcher
like
to
switch
between
the
same
content,
but
for
different
service
meshes.
B
Okay,
so
not
exactly
here,
it
will
only
highlight
how
many
service
meshes
you
can
opt
for
for
this
course,
but
when
you
move
to
the
move
to
one
of
the
chapters,
we
will
have
a
section
over
here,
like
just
beneath
the
table
of
components
which
would
highlight
all
the
services
just
like
this,
like
they
have
a
framework
option
over
here.
So
once
we
switch
from
framework
to
framework,
it
only
changes.
It.
A
B
Apparently
they
don't
keep
it
as
a
feature,
but
we
want.
We
can
keep
it
like.
They
are
just
highlighting
the
icons
with
the
names
what
they
are
using,
they
don't
provide
it
and
what
they
do
is
they
keep
a
default
framework
to
use
which
is
react
for
them
and
we
can
choose
a
default
framework
for
us,
maybe
ht
or
some
other
one.
B
B
C
B
A
B
A
A
A
A
That's
nice
so,
for
I
guess
you
know
maybe
we're
about
to
get
into
this,
but
for
nitish
and
and
maybe
others
on
the
call
did
other
people
have
updates
on
lay
on
learning.
F
Yeah,
actually
middle
has
pretty
much
covered
everything
up
what
we've
been
doing
this
week
so
yeah
we
could
continue
with.
What
do
you
have
to
say.
F
A
Okay
but
yeah,
but
it's
it's
it's
pretty
great.
It's
looking
it's
looking
nice!
It's
it's
gonna
work!
Well,
we
it's
not!
A
It's
not
a
stretch
of
the
imagination
that
one
or
more
of
those
service
mesh
teams
like
one
or
more
of
the
service
mesh
projects,
might
come
and
contribute
some
labs
like
it.
I
wouldn't
you
know
I
wouldn't
be
surprised,
so
that
would
be
great,
I
mean,
and
then
they
would
do
it
because
they're
compelled
to
because
the
site
is
nice,
it's
neutral.
A
So
that's
great
by
the
way.
Just
I
I
don't
know
if
this
directly
applies
to
any
of
you
on
the
call,
but
you
know
like
something
that
we
can
be
doing
now
and
and
can
be
doing
as
this
framework
is
ready
is
well,
is
the
actual
content
and
like
some
of
the
content,
it
will
be
once
it's
once.
A
lab
is
done
for
one
type
of
service
mesh,
given
that
the
lab
is
based
on
measuring.
A
Having
do
you
know
creating
the
content
for
the
other
service
meshes
for
some
of
the
labs.
It's
like
really
similar,
and
that's
part
of
the
point
of
measuring
is
that
you
can
manage
all
those
service
meshes
in
a
uniform
way,
and
so
so
I'll
plant
that
thought
in
case
people
are
interested
in
trying
to
generate
the
content
as
well.
A
A
Just
as
a
as
a
quick
foreshadowing,
just
for
you
know,
outside
of
building
out
content
and
the
courses
here,
there's
some
other
things
that
we'll
end
up
doing
and
actually,
since
since
victory
is
on
the
phone
I'll
say
that
there's
a
second
phase.
Well,
there's
it's
both!
You
know,
there's
both
some
work
to
be
done
in
terms
of
user
experience,
but
there's
also
some
work
to
be
done
in
terms
of
well
a
little
bit
in
terms
of
like
well.
A
What
a
lot
of
us
refer
to
as
devops,
which
is
probably
incorrect,
bad,
but
we
ultimately
will
end
up
allowing
people
to
have
a
user
account
here,
so
they
can
track
their
progress
through
just
a
light
learning
management
system.
That's
basically
what
you
you
all
are
building
out
as
a
a
light
learning
management
system,
and
so
they
would.
Why
would
they
need
a
user
account
really
like
two
things
at
least
initially
that
we
were
thinking
would
be
valuable
to
them.
A
Okay,
I
should
say
three
things
so
bookmarking:
if
they
take
a
quiz,
then
good,
it
can
remember
that
they
passed
the
quiz
or
failed
the
quiz
like
you
can
and
then.
Thirdly,
for
a
certification
to
say
that
they'd
taken
the
course
they
had
passed
the
quizzes
and
then
here
here's
and
here's
their
sort
of
their
certificate.
A
A
So
some
of
this
stuff
is
well.
It
just
depends
on
where
you're
at
like
some
of
it
is
all
of
it
is
like
ridiculously
easy
or
all
of
it
is
ridiculously
hard,
and
for
some
of
us
it's
easy.
Some
of
it
is
hard,
and
so
that's
good
for
some
of
us,
it's
like
one
of
those
things
I
said
is
really
easy.
Some,
you
know
the
other
three
things
are
hard
and
it's
it's
good
all
around
for
actually
for
for
victory.
A
I
think
we're
going
to
talk
with
victory
here
more
in
a
moment,
but
I'll
say
that
we
should
there's
so
nikhil
had
a
figma
up
a
little
bit
ago.
There
are
some
early
designs
for
what
the
user
account
across
layer,
five
io
might
look
like,
and
so
there's
some
prior
art,
so
to
speak,
and-
and
actually
I
think,
nikhil
we
might
have
if
you
on
the
left
hand
side
where
there's
the
menu
for
figma
the
section
just
below
this
section,
it's
called
site,
auth
dot.
A
The
thought
was
that
at
some
point
is
that
it
if
you
zoom
out
or
is
there
anything
else,
it's
just
those
two
aren't
on
it
all
right.
Well,
then,
okay,
so
the
thought
was
is
there's
a
central
place
to
sign
in
because
you
might
authenticate
to
sign
in
to
measure
you
might
authenticate
to
sign
into
the
learning
paths
and
then
other
things
that
are
coming
forth.
One
of
the
things
that
are
that's
coming
forth
that
we
haven't
started
yet
is
a
playground.
A
Okay,
thanks
nuthish,
okay,
catch
you
next
hi
time,
hey
mark
how's
it
going
what's
going
on
good
good
work,
looks
like
we're
about
a
week
away
from
having
service
mesh
course.
G
I
want
to
suggest
some
application
for
today's
meeting,
not
a
specific
application,
but
I'm
searching
for
mobile
applications.
So
maybe
we
just
can
make
a
build,
an
easy,
let's
say
easy.
Web
application
just
visits
the
website,
because
I
just
tried
to
make
some
applications
for
upwards
ubuntu
touch
platform.
G
G
A
Today's
meeting
yeah
yeah
do
you.
G
A
To
put
a
agenda.
A
Okay,
yeah
nice
yeah
there's
there
are
a
lot
of
the
websites
that
we
have
or
all
the
websites
that
we
have
should
be
mobile,
friendly
and
so
automating.
The
testing
that
they
are
is
a
worthwhile
cause
nikhil
back
in
the
on
the
other,
the
learning
in
the
learning
g
section,
the
or
the
other
page,
the
other.
A
And
so
I
might
have
confused
nikhil
but
nikhil
if
you,
if
you
can
hear
me
back
in
figma,
if
you
go
back
to
the
other
section
that
you
were
on
for
learning.
A
A
Cool
okay!
Let
me
let
me
share
something
real,
quick.
A
A
Phase
two
that
has
a
user
account
on
ng-
is
that
maybe
you're
in
there
you're
on
the
site
and
you
click
to
bookmark
a
certain
area,
and
it
says,
oh,
you
know
please
sign
in
to
bookmark
the
lesson
good.
So
then
this
kind
of
skips.
I
think
that,
like
that,
the
login
and
sign
up
is
the
other
screen,
so
they
would,
they
would
be
directed
here.
A
B
I
had
I
just
had
a
question
about
like
the
future.
Only
like
so
are
we
going
to
use
some
back
end
or
a
third-party
technology
for
the
username
password
and
the
like
data
stuff.
A
That's
a
great
question
like
this
probably
does
require
this
would
end
up
probably
being
a
separate
server,
a
separate
site
that
does
process
requests
and
run
identity.
A
Today
we
have
such
we
have
such
a
site
that
does
that
for
measuring.
A
So
when
someone
deducts
well
or
actually
more
for
like
when
you
go
to
sign
in
to
measure
itself,
if
you're
running
misery,
there's
a
an
identity
server
running
at
measure.layer5.io,
if
you
go
there
without
the
appropriate,
it
expects
that
that
measurey
as
an
application
is
the
is
what's
hitting
it.
So
you
don't
you
don't
see
a
login.
You
just
see
this
error.
A
B
A
Yeah
yeah,
we
haven't
yeah,
it's
only
halfway
figured
out
like
we
don't
want
to
have
more
servers
than
we
need
to
to
do
identity.
We
do
need
a
server
part
of
what
that
server
can
do
is
yeah
like
to
the
extent
we
do
more
than
just
something
very
simple
with
bookmarks,
and
whether
or
not
they
passed
us
a
quiz
that
amount
of
info
that's
possible
to
to
do
with
very
simple
systems
that
maybe
don't
require
a
server.
D
A
Okay,
yeah,
maybe
maybe
that's
just
files
on
disk,
like
each
user,
gets
their
own
yaml
file
on
disk
somewhere
and
by
on
disk
I
mean
like
in
a
spreadsheet
or
in
a
checked
into
a
private
repo
or
something
like
that,
and
that
can
be
quickly
easily,
like
there's
some
very
inexpensive
ways
of
doing
achieving
these
things.
A
It
might
also
be
the
case
where
it's
like
look,
there's
a
lot
more
things
we're
trying
to
give
to
people
than
just
bookmarks
and
whether
or
not
they
pass
the
quiz.
It's
also
like
at
some
point,
if
we're
investing
in
a
separate
auth
here.
Well,
that's
because,
like
I
don't
know
how
some
of
you
have
seen
it.
A
If
you
go
out
to
layer
five
io
and
you
look
at
the
internship
programs
that
are
out
there,
there's
a
suggestion
to
build
a
the
world's
service
mesh
playground,
and
that
would
be
us
hosting
mescheri
like
us
running
meshery
on
for
people
to
come
and
learn
like
just
like
people
would
come
and
learn
when
they
do
playwithdocker.com
play
with
kubernetes.com.
A
A
And
so
our
authentication
would
be
very
similar
in
this
regard.
It
comes
back
okay,
now
you're
authenticated,
so
you
can
start
so
instead
of
playing
with
kubernetes,
you
would
play
with
meshri
and
we
would
show
you
the
the
mastery
interface
here.
They
let
you
create
small
virtual
machines
that
can
run
kubernetes
or
docker,
and
so
too
would
we
do
the
same.
A
B
Okay,
then,
if
there
are
like,
if
anyone
has
any
questions
you
can
just
ask
or
then
we
can
move
to
the
next
topic.
G
G
I
think
it
is
related
with
this
topic
in
the
meantime
that
we
talk.
Gamifying
for
newcomers
is
the
responsibility
that
I
would
like
to
take.
So
how
can
we
that
I
was
offered?
G
I
offered
to
write
code
or
documentation
with
vs
code
live
share
feature.
So
what
do
you
think
about
that?
Writing
code?
At
the
same
time
with
mentorship
the
one
mentor
or
many
many
mentors
with
newcomers.
G
B
Think
it's
a
good
idea.
We
can
try
this
into
the
new
commerce
call
once
like
the
live
thing
where
the
newcomers
can
learn
coding
on
to
the
go
along
with
the
community
managers,
so
that
so
yeah,
that's
a
nice
idea.
We
can
talk
about
it
into
the
newcomers.
B
Call
like
you
can
implement
it
as
well.
Maybe
what
lee
says
yali.
G
Okay,
yeah
about
the
only
idea.
The
only
issue
is
which
platform
as
an
development
environment,
we
will
run
vs
code
c
lion.
This
will.
This
will
be
your
decision.
A
Yeah
I
mean
the
reality.
Is
that
yeah?
It's
it's
a
good
yeah
live
share
on
vs
code.
That's
a
great
way
of
helping
like,
for
example,
newcomers
work
through
like
commit
sign-off
issues
or
work
through
updates
to
the
docs
like
how
to
run
how
to
run
jekyll
or
or
other
website
updates
like
like
the
the
thing
is
the
and
so
like.
A
Actually,
the
what
environment
is
being
used
is
probably
it
does
become
important
if
you're
trying
to
run
jekyll,
but
if
you
break
down
and
are
trying
to
help
people
figure
out
how
to
install
jackal
on
windows,
it's
really
got
nothing
to
do
with
vs
code
and
much
is
much
more
to
do
with
sharing
your
screen,
so
yeah
mert.
I
do
think
that,
like
that,
yet
there's
merit
to
having
a
newcomers
call
in
which
we
say
hey.
Look.
A
Let's
have
a
session
that
talks
about
vs
code
live
share
and
a
couple
of
people
walk
through
how
to
use
it
and
exchange
and
kind
of
collaborate
over
a
nominal
issue
like
over
an
easy
issue
and
that's
helpful
as
a
session
like
then
that
way,
as
and
when
other
contributors
in
the
community
want
to
collaborate
over
an
issue
or
like
partner
program
on
something,
there
would
have
been
a
recorded
session
kind
of
a
tutorial
on
how
to
do
that
with
liveshare,
because
I
think
a
lot
of
people
aren't
familiar
with
that
plugin
in
vs
code,
thanks
yeah
there's
a
one
of
the
things
that
you
just
mentioned
on
gamifying,
that's
a
good
headspace
to
be
in
and
think
about,
for
something
like
the
learning
paths
or
probably
even
easier
to
start
with
is
on
disqus.
A
Disqus.Layer5.Io
is
well
it's
how
to
gamify
that
like
how
to
encourage
people
to
jump
in,
engage
in
the
community
answer
questions,
and
this
is
probably
easier
to
gamify
than
anything
else,
which
is
to
say
who
asked
the
most
questions
this
month.
A
Well,
it
might
be
samir
actually
literally,
it
might
be
him
good
who
answered
the
most
questions,
I'm
not
sure,
but
those
two
things
are
examples
of
like
having
a
leaderboard
and
we
can
either
celebrate
it
each
month
by
making
a
post
or
like
talking
about
it
in
the
community
meeting,
but
we
can
also
have
right
now
this
this
latest.
It
goes
on
for
the
full
length
of
the
page.
Well,
we
can
actually
chop
it
in
half
like
cut
it
off
about
here
and
then
have
another
one
that
that's
a
leader
board.
A
It's
like
most
number
of
questions
asked.
You
know
this.
You
know
most
active
contributing
your
most
active
people
like
that's
great
because
it
reinf
it
gamifies
and
reinforces
like
participation
and
those
people
can
be
celebrated.
They
can
something
for
them
to
be
proud
of.
Maybe
they'll
get
a
badge
and
because
this
system
is
set
up
to
badge
people,
it's
set
up
to
count
how
many
things
how
many
discussions
they
have,
how
many
votes
you
know
what's
the
top
most
voted
thing
so
so
for
anita
specifically,
and
by
the
way
anita
has
exams
this
week.
A
So
she's
going
to
be
taxed
already,
but
for
victory
as
well
and
anita
as
two
individuals
who
are
probably
quite
well
equipped
to
think
about
this
problem
like
josh.
It
would
be
really
great
if
we
made
sure
that
I
think
anita
already
is,
but
we
made
sure
that
both
anita
and
and
mert
as
well,
if
he
would
like
to
victory
that
they're,
both
enabled
in
the
staging
site
to
play
around
with
and
mess
with,
you
know.
B
Yeah
yeah,
so
like
I,
I
was
going
to
share
some
insight
on
how
to
contribute
as.
A
B
Okay,
so
basically
there
are
a
lot
of
questions
past
week
about
how
do
we
contribute
to
the
discuss
dot
layer
fighter
tile?
So
we
have
currently
two
discussion
forums
up
the
one:
the
discuss
dot
layer,
fedora
tio
is
the
production
one
and
the
staging
discuss
dot
layer.
Five
direct
io
is
for
making
the
changes
and
testing
out
things
and
then,
if,
if
it
goes
well,
then
we
can,
we
just
migrate.
Those
changes
to
the
discuss.
B
so
as
there
are
questions
on
how
to
contribute.
So
basically
you
you
create
an
account
on
staging
discuss.io
and
then
you
can
just
ping
me
I'll,
give
you
the
admin
access
so
that
you
can
make
the
code
changes
to
this
to
this
discussion
forum.
So
like
the
the
thing
is
that
the
code
resides
on
the
platform
itself.
So
if
you
visit
admin
section
and
into
the
customize
part,
so
here.
A
B
Will
see
the
code
the
like
here,
it's
the
added
css
html,
so
this
is
the
code
responsible
for
all
the
specifications
that
have
been
done
apart
from
the
send,
apart
from
the
discuss,
sandbox
discord,
sandbox
like
the
the
header,
the
footer
and
the
hero
image
and
many
other
things
that
you
see.
All
of
those
changes
are
being
made
on
this
part
on
the
customized
on
this
customized
tab.
So
if
you,
if
you
guys,
want
to
make
any
changes
to
discuss
layer
5.,
so
this
is
the
way
like
you
get
an
admin
account.
B
You
ping
me
I'll,
give
you
an
admin
account
and
then
you
can
make
those
changes.
Try
it
out.
B
You
can
show
them
to
the
channel
and
we
can
look
if,
if,
if
they
are
good
enough
to
migrate
them
into
the
my
community
forum
and
yeah,
that's
how
you
will
contribute
so
one
example
is
like
there
is
a
contributor
who
is
trying
to
embed
a
twitter
timeline,
and
so
I
think
there
is
just
a
few
changes
away
and
then
we'll
have
this
section
migrated
over
here
after
the
latest
section
where
we
can
see
the
twitter
timeline.
B
So
similarly,
if
you
wish
to
make
any
changes,
so
apart
from
the
apart
from
the
css
html,
you
can
also
make
any
changes
to
the
colors
the
text,
and
there
is
another
thing:
that's
plugins,
so
you
are
also
welcome
to
explore
plugins,
so
plugins
are
basically
some
extra
features
that
can
be
added
as
per
our
needs.
B
So
we
have
currently
a
few
plugins
that
are
already
added,
but
you
can
explore
plugins
and
you
can
just
let
us
know
if
you
feel
that
any
plugin
would
be
a
very
good
to
have
on
our
discussion
forum.
So
they're
like
these
are
the
things
where
you
can
contribute
and
make
those
changes,
and
we
can
just
bring
those
changes
to
the
discussion
forum.
So
if
there
are
any
questions
about
this
like
then
we'll
take
them.
First,
like
I
guess,
science.
G
B
G
Thanks,
I
would
like
to
say
I
will
I
think
about:
if
there
is
a
leadership
board
plug-in
for
slack
not
only
for
discuss,
maybe
we
can
connect
with
discuss
and
select.
Maybe
we
can
ask
a
select
company
to
develop,
develop
some
extension
plugin
for
select
to
connect
with
discuss,
because
we
will
need
select
api
api
for
connecting
discuss
with
like
if
we
want
to.
Let's
say
if
we
want
to
write
a
client
for
twitter,
we
just
need
a
twitter's
api,
something
like
that
and
we
need.
G
G
B
Yeah
exactly
like,
if
we
have
the
api,
we
can
build
upon
the
plugin
by
ourselves
as
well.
So
this
is
the
example
like
the
twitter
feed
plugin
that
is
created
by
the
contributor.
It's
a
github
repo,
so
you
can
also
like,
if
you
have,
if
you
think
that
there
is
some
changes
that
cannot
be
integrated
just
into
html
css
or
you
wish
that
it
should
be
like
a
plugin.
B
You
can
create
a
plugin
which
the
appropriate
apis
and
all
the
data,
and
so
like
yeah,
if
you,
if
you
just
search
on
how
to
create
custom
plugins,
it's
very
easy
like
if
they
have
proper
documentations
on
creating
plugins
for
the
custom
needs.
So
these
are
the
ways
yeah
the
leaderboard
part
so
like.
If
we
have
the
api
thing
yeah,
we
can
make
a
plugin
to
show
that
leaderboard
as
well.
So
yeah,
that's
a
very
good
point,
and
so
this
is
the
way
which
we
can
make
like
contribute
to
the
code.
G
G
B
Yeah,
okay,
I
think
santan
got
the
point.
I
guess
there
was
another
contributor,
but
he's
not
present
claire
charles.
They
also
like
he
also
had
the
same
issue
about
the
contribution
but
I'll
ping
him
in
slack
and
give
him
appropriate
information
there.
So
yeah
anybody
like
if
anyone
else
has
to
like
wants
to
ask
anything
about
discussion
or
the
discuss
forum,
then
you
can
ping
me
on
slack
as
well
or
you
can
ask
on
the
website
channel
and
we
can
get
you
done
whatever
is
required.
D
G
Anita
was
writing
josh
or
josh.
I
was
talking
about
oh.
A
Nice
and
nice
well,
good,
I
I
so
I
know
we're
just
a
few
minutes
after
and
josh
is
wrapping
up
here
I
would
say
it's
kind
of
neat
to
or
the
use
of
discourse
and
in
this
community
in
an
open
way
is,
is
kind
of
neat
because
well,
not
all
of
us
are
heavy
coders.
So
to
speak,
heavy.
A
You
know
I
spent
a
ton
of
time
with
software
with
software
languages,
but
a
system
like
this,
like
with
the
plugins
that
are
there,
gives
everybody
well
actually,
even
for
some
of
those
that
do
software
engineering
very
well
languages
very
well,
they're
kind
of
bad
at
interfacing
with
humans
and
like
choosing
what
might
make
the
sense
in
terms
of
like,
like
the
right,
plugins
or
the
right
way
to
gamify,
because
you
don't
ever
anytime.
A
There's
a
system
and
people
can
measure
themselves
or
measure
others
that
people
try
to
circumvent
the
system
or
like
play
this
system,
or
you
know,
abuse
it
to
get
themselves
up.
And
so
you
have
to
there's
some
psychology
that
comes
in
here
about
how
like
are
you
in
some
psychology,
where
you
have
to
ask
yourself
the
way
that
the
leaderboards
are
established?
A
A
Even
though
the
contributions
were
you
know,
terrible
or
like
you
know,
bad
comments,
and
things
like
that,
so
sometimes
the
answer
is
like
well,
you
can't
design
a
better
leader
board
than
than
this
one,
and
so
you
just
have
to
moderate
the
forum
and
make
sure
that
you,
sometimes
you
have
to
test
things
out
and
try
it
out
and
see
what
the
right
unit
of
measure
is,
because,
wherever
you
start
to
measure,
that's
the
thing
that
people
are
going
to
start
to
like
optimize.
A
You
know
the
top
engaged
you
know
top
most
active
every
month
like
how
do
we
anyway,
as
you
go
into
the
staging
server
you'll,
be
able
to
as
an
admin
or
as
a
moderator
or
an
admin.
You
can
go
see
some
of
the
stats
and
some
of
the
different
things
you
can
play
with
some
of
the
plugins,
so
so
for
anita
and
and
victory
and
specific
and
mert
as
well
or
whomever
is
interested
in
this
area
like
do
coordinate
with
josh.
But
but
let's
try
out
some
new
plugins.
A
Let's
there
is
a
slack
plug-in
like
josh
was
saying
it
doesn't
quite,
do
it
more
like
facilitates
anytime.
That's
a
new
topic
is
created
anytime.
Someone
creates
a
new
discussion
in
the
forum.
There's
a
slack
notification
sent
and
great.
That's
helpful.
That's
nice,
we
don't
have
it
enabled
because
it's
like,
because
I
think
we're
out
of
slack.
B
Like
this
was
the
like
moving
out
of
this
leg
was
the
main
motivation
behind
discussion.
So
we
don't
want
to
get
into
the
infinite
loop,
like
slack,
to
discuss
and
discuss
to
slack
back
yeah.
A
C
A
Cool
good,
I
encourage
everybody
to
go,
get
an
account
on
the
staging
site.
Let's,
let's
get
the
thing
anita
is
having
to
shoulder
she's
she's
being
the
champion
the
activity
champion,
so
we
she
needs
others
there
with
her.
E
I
I
wanted
to
chip
in
something
so
by
decide
where,
on
the
twitter
feeds
up
here,
when
we
launched
the
learn
layer
5
website,
we
could
also
include
some
of
the
courses
that
are
offered
there
at
this
end,
so
persons
that
are
maybe
users
that
come
across
the
discourse
channel
can
also
check
out
the
layer,
5
courses.
A
Nice
yeah,
that's
totally
so
that's
actually
anita
like
I
don't
know
if
this
is
what
you
were
suggesting,
I'm
gonna
say
it
back
to
you
specifically,
but
but
really
for
anyone
else
is
like
basically
yeah
like
anita.
Please
go
do
this
or
or
someone
else
or
but
minimally,
let's
get
an
issue
where
we're
basically
describing
an
advertisement
or
a
cross-pollination
of
like
just
like.
We
were
propagating
the
link
to
discuss
across
the
layer
5
I
o
site.
A
We
should
be
putting
some
links
and
discuss
pointing
back
to
layer,
5
ioha
and
like
a
little
like
hey.
What's
the
latest,
learning
module
or
and
anita
actually
like,
we
don't-
we
wouldn't
do
this
now,
but
in
the
future,
if
there
is
a
central
authentication
system
well,
if
you're
signed
in
here
and
you're
signed
in
on
the
learning
site,
then
the
mod
the
plugin
here
could
actually
say.
C
A
A
She's
supposed
to
be
taking
exams,
but
you
know,
like
she's,
doing
exams,
she's
doing
tweeting.
She's
doing
you
know
you
can't
hold
anita
back.
I
guess
that's
the
thing.
B
Okay,
so
like
we
are
already
11
minutes
past
the
scheduled
ending
time,
so
I
think
we'll
quickly
wrap
up
with
the
today's
topics.
So
we
look
forward
to
contributions
to
discuss
and
the
two
issues
that
we
discussed
on
the
in
the
initial
part
and
the
inclusion
announcements
on
both
the
websites
and
also
there
are
other
issues
on
the
webs
other
websites
as
well
like
the
websites,
mastery.smp
spec.io
and
the
get
nighthawk.io
or
the
layer5.io.
B
So
if,
like
you,
can
make
those
any
any
of
those
changes,
take
up
those
issues
and
if
you
feel
that
you
need
help,
you
can
ping
us
on
slack
or
you
can
just
tag
us
on
the
github
discussion
as
well.
No
issues
and
yeah.
That
would
be
a
wrap
for
today's
meeting.
So
it
was
like
a
combination
of
almost
all
things
we
had
today
the
learn,
ng
the
discussion
forum
and
the
mastery
and
smp
websites
so
yeah.