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Layer5 Websites Meeting - Aug 02nd, 2021
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A
We
are
already
past
two
minutes
and
we'll
be
starting
off.
First
of
all,
we
have
is
anyone
new
or
first
time
on
this
call
shivai
kodu
chef?
I
guess.
A
Okay,
okay,
I
think
he's
not
back
okay,
okay,
then
we'll
we'll
start
with
the
meeting
agendas
and
we'll
look
into
if
anyone
else
new
joins
in.
B
A
First
of
all,
we
have
aditya
chatterjee
with
the
community
members
filter
the
topic.
So
I
do
you
want
to
share
any
progress
on
this.
C
C
So
yesterday
I
think
what
nikhil
was
talking
about
is
this,
like
the
service
mesh
performance
is
getting
cut
over
here.
So
we
need
to
fix
that.
But
the
word
is
huge,
so
the
only
way
out,
I
think,
is
to
reduce
its
font
size,
but
that
looks
really
ugly.
I
had
sent
a
screenshot
to
nitish,
who
was
looking
really
bad
and
also
nikhil
said
that
this
is
like
right
now.
It's
aligned
with
all
the
options,
but
previously
it
was
center
aligned.
C
So
center
line
was
looking
a
little
better
when
the
drop
down
was
not
open
like
right
now
it
looks
like
it
shifted
towards
the
left.
Now
it
looks
all
right,
but
the
center
line
was
looking
better.
So
I'm
here
for
suggestions.
So
what
do
you
guys
think.
B
Yeah
on
the
the
service
mesh
performance,
one,
it's
kinda.
The
way
that
this
is
this
is
this
isn't
a
strong
opinion.
The
way
that
I
feel
about
it
is
kind
of
like,
like
you
know,
yeah
at
some
point
like
what,
if
you
had
one
that
was
had
another
word
on
it,
then
then
you're
like
well
like
at
some
point,
you're
like
it
at
least
you're,
showing
the
full
text
in
the
when
you're,
selecting
it
and
then,
after
that,
it's
kind
of
like
well.
C
C
So
the
next
point
is
the
discuss
letter
the
discuss
newsletter
template,
so
there's
no
designs
for
it.
Yet
I,
since
it
was
empty,
I
put
in
something
which
looks
really
horrible.
Is
the
discussed
site
still
like
not
working
right
now.
A
C
B
C
E
A
C
C
A
Can
do
in
the
customize
section
itself
like
it's,
basically
one
or
two
buttons
of
change
yeah,
if
you
can
to
if
you
can
select
the
default.
C
The
final
thing
was
the
copy
to
clipboard
button
on
the
docs,
so
we
have
used
a
clipboard.js
feature
in
the
like
the
docs,
but
I
am
not
sure
what
that
is
used
for
because
we
don't
have
copy
options
on
any
of
the
code.
Snippets
like
I've
gone
through
a
lot
of
them,
but
there
is
no
copy
feature
right
now.
So
this
I
was
this
is
what
I
did
yesterday
and
it
gets
copied
right
now.
It
doesn't
look
nice
but
yeah.
C
B
Yeah
yeah
yeah,
that's
about
right.
I
don't
know
why
this
was.
It
was
a
topic
of
discussion
a
number
of
times,
and
I
remember
now
it
was
sweetie
chandra
wanted
to.
B
I
just
wanted
her
to
take
and
use
like
clipboard
js
and
take
like
30
minutes
to
do
it.
Instead,
I
think
we
talked
about
it
like
three
times
for
30
minutes,
because
she
wanted
to
like
implement
it,
write
something
new
and
like
look
it
just
so
when
you,
when
you
do
it
yeah,
I
mean
ideally
you're.
You
know
we're
reusing
some
existing
library,
but
also,
hopefully
the
way
in
which
you
do
it
is
done
such
that
it
becomes
a
feature
of
the
blog
that
you
know
is
documented
in
the
in
the
the
docs
control.
C
B
C
B
And
then
I
just.
C
A
A
Okay,
so
that
means
that
was
pretty
clear
to
understand.
We'll
move
on
to
the
next
like
for
this
topic,
the
general
feedback
for
the
safari
safari,
the
community
members
filter,
so
yeah
you
can
go
on
with
the
pr
and
we
can
like.
If
it
all
works
good,
then
we
can
merge
it
as
well.
No.
A
Yeah
yeah,
then
I
don't
think
there
are
any
changes
required
apart
from
if
he
has
suggested
something
for
that
over
overflow
of
the
word
service
mesh
performance.
A
For
the
discuss
letter
template
so
yeah
that
I
was
just
told
how
we
can
do
it
and
for
the
copy
to
clipboard
so
yeah
that's
also
been
discussed.
I
guess
quickly.
A
Yeah,
okay,
then
this
like
we
can
move
on
to
the
next
topic.
Then
the
next
topic
is
the
learn
ng
section
or
the
subside.
We
can
say:
first
one
we
have
nitish
with
the
added
he's
added
the
service
mesh
switcher.
G
C
Okay,
like
yeah
so
you're,
you
guys
are
seeing
the
lennon
g
site
right.
C
Yes,
yeah,
so
actually,
this
is
what
I
have
made
right
now,
like
the
ability
to
switch
between
the
service,
which
is
for
a
particular
course,
so
you
can
just
actually
it
is
dynamically
generated
according
to
what
and
all
the
service
meshes
are
available
for
this
particular
course,
so
you
can
actually
switch
between
those
and.
A
So
by
default
we
have
anything
fixed.
C
You
mean
no
no,
by
default.
Istio
is
fixed.
Okay.
I
don't
think
we
have
any
logic
for
that
right
now,
but
if
you
want,
we
can
implement
it.
Maybe
keeping
the
first
thing
that
is
over
here
as
the
default
one
would
be
the
most
intuitive
one.
I.
A
Okay,
and
so
the
different
like
both
of
them
are
individual
pages
right.
C
Yep,
actually,
when
you
look
over
here,
you
have
the
slug.
I
mean
the
path
over
here
right,
so
it's
actually,
this
is.
This
part
is
where
this
is
the
part
that
would
be
changing
according
to
the
service
mesh.
So
if
it
is
still,
then
it
would
be
steer
and
if
you
change
it
to
link
it
or
something
it
would
actually
change
the
other
other
parts
of
the
link
would
actually
remain
the
same.
So
that's
how
we
differentiate
it,
but
actually
there
is
one
problem
here
that
I
need
you
guys
suggestion
on.
C
So
when
you
actually
don't
have
a
let's
say
like
I
have
I've
come
to
this
course
and
I'm
looking
for
observability
and
if
I
try
to
see
for
like
for
the
same
course,
if
I
try
to
go
for
okay,
it's
still
there
like.
Actually
the
point
I
was
trying
to
make
was
that
there
are
some
courses
in
a
particular
chapter
which
might
not
be
available
for
a
service
like
it's.
It
might
be
available
for
istio,
but
not
for
linkedin.
C
In
that
case,
like
it
would
return
a
photo
for
that
page
is
not
phone.
So
I
was
thinking
that,
like
that
there
might
be
some
we
can
solve
it
in
many
ways.
One
of
the
ways
that
I
could
think
of
was
you
know,
have
have
the
same
code,
chapter
structure
for
each
and
every
course
for
a
particular
service
and
then,
if
a
course,
if
a
chapter
is
not
available,
then
you
know
you
have
a
your
display
a
same
page
that
says
you
know
this
chapter
is
not
available
for
this
particular
service.
A
So
is:
can
we
like
for
the
individual
chapter
as
well?
We
have
the
individual
pages
right.
C
A
Yeah
yeah,
but
there
is
a
different
page
for
each
of
the
section
as
well.
So
if
we
can
like
get
to
know
whether
there
exists
this
chapter
for
the
service
mesh,
we
can
have
the
disabled
feature
like
if
it's
disabled,
so
you
show
it
gray
or
something
so
that
it's
not
clickable
or
something.
And
if
the
chapter
exists
for
the
other
one,
then
it
should
be
clickable
or
okay.
So
that's
just
a
suggestion
like
you
can
we
are
open
for
other
suggestions
as
well
link.
What
do
you
say.
B
If
that
was
going
to
be,
my
question
was,
if
the
way
that
the,
if
the
way
the
course
is
structured,
is
such
that
the
expectation
is
that,
irrespective
of
service
mesh
of
the
specific
service
mesh
that
you're
learning,
if
they
were
both
going
to
have
the
same,
you
know
a
set
of
instructions
or
the
same
outline
while
the
content,
while
the
main
content
would
be
different,
you
know
clearly
based
on
what
mess
you're
looking
at
whether
or
not
the
overall
the
course
itself.
B
And
and
so
yeah,
I
don't
know
that.
There's
necessarily
a
correct
answer
to
that
question
that
one
I
just
asked
like
it
can
be.
Yes,
it's.
The
expectation
is
that
it's
the
same
overall
structure,
acknowledging
that,
like
inevitably
because
they
are
different
service
meshes
and
they
do
have
different
functionality
that
there
will
be
on
occasion
where
one
mesh
just
doesn't
even
do
this
whole
section
at
all
and
and
so
yeah
just
thinking,
yeah.
C
Yeah,
actually,
I
think,
we'll
have
to
compile
these
things
down,
and
then
we
have
to
figure
out
what
like
what
kind
of
structure
do
we
have,
and
you
know
the
code
accordingly
or
something.
B
Yeah,
and
so
the
suggestion
that
josh
just
had
was
know,
okay,
it
can
make
sense.
It
like.
Let's
say
that
you
start
a
course
on
linker
d
and
it
had
there's
like
nine
there's
nine
labs,
nine
sections
in
the
course
it
only
does
seven
of
them,
and
so
you
know
you
might
see.
B
B
A
I
just
have
it
that
would
be
a
good
solution
for
this.
I
guess
so.
I
just
have
a
question
like:
is
it
true
or
is
it
a
rule
that
the
either
of
the
service
mesh
would
always
be
included
in
the
other
one
maybe
like?
If
let's
say
for
now,
we
are
having
that,
let's
say
studios
and
nine
chapters
and
linker
design
seven,
but
we
assume
that
the
seven
are
like
same.
Let's
say
they
are
not
the
same
or
like.
There
are
many
differences,
then
what
we
can
do
is
like.
A
If,
anytime
you
switch
between
the
service
mesh,
you
directly
go
to
the
default
the
course
overview
page
for
the
services.
That
would
be
also
a
good
idea.
If,
if
that's,
if
that's
the
case,
where,
like
the
chapters
are
not
aligned,
basically
because
I
don't
think
it
would
be
a
good
idea
to
have
those
individual
chapter
move
like
switcher
or
feature
that
won't
be
required
much.
C
If
it
is
what
I'm
thinking
right
now
is
that
maybe
we
can,
just
you
know,
render
the
whole
table
of
components
according
to
the
chapters
that
we
have.
C
I
mean
this
one
I'm
talking
about
like
if
you're
in
this
particular
service
mix,
then
this
chapters
this
bit
over
here
would
be
dynamic,
dynamically
changing
according
to
what
service
machine
have
selected.
Maybe
that
would
do
like
this.
B
Yeah
yeah
yeah,
that's
pretty
good
yeah
because
you
could
imagine
like
it
would
be
fair
that,
broadly
at
the
at
a
high
level
that
you
would,
you
would
expect
most
of
the
time
yeah,
and
even
if
this
isn't
true,
it's
okay
so
like
let's
say
that
we've
we've
got
a
full
set
of
learning
paths.
There's
like
five
service,
meshes
that
we
cover
and
you
know,
we've
got.
B
Let's
say:
we've
got
three
learning
paths
I
don't
know
one
is
using
using
using
service
meshes
to
enforce
security,
or
you
know,
and
the
other
another
one
is
introduction
to
service
meshes.
The
other
one
is
advanced
service
missions.
Let's
just
say
that
there's
those
three
that
there
are
five
service
meshes
that
we
have.
You
would
expect
in
general
between
the
advanced,
the
I'm
sorry,
the
introduction
in
advance.
B
It
would
be
like
well,
you
would
expect
now
that
there
that
all
five
of
them
have
some
intro
and
some
advanced,
probably
all
five
of
them
also
have
some
securing
or
using
a
service
mesh
securely
and
then
yeah
to
to
what
you
just
said
within
there
within
there
within
the
individual
courses
in
the
individual
labs.
Your
mileage
might
vary
and
yeah
it's
more
intuitive,
probably
if
the
the
student
is
just
not
seeing
anything
like
when
they
switch
to
here.
If
they
had
nine
before
they
switched
to
linker
d,
they
only
see
two.
B
Like
actually
when
we
do
this,
this
breaks
the
other
answer
to
my
question,
which
was:
are
we
assuming
that
there's
going
to
be
the
same
content?
We're
going
to
you
know
let
them
flip
back
and
forth,
assuming
that
they
would
be
on
the
exact
same
page
and
and
okay?
And
so
it's
like
a
combination
of
all
the
things
that
we've
just
said.
It
probably
makes
sense
that
we
acknowledge
that
they
won't
always
have
the
same
content.
B
If
you
switch
back
and
forth
between
one
to
the
other
and
they
don't
have
the
same
page,
then
I
think
what
joshua's
sort
of
suggesting
is.
You
might
bring
the
the
reader,
the
student
back
to
the
top
of
like
input,
whatever
you're
on
improving
the
service
mesh,
you
sort
of
bring
them
back
to
the
initial
page.
You
probably
eliminate
the
other
seven
sections
that
actually
aren't
available
for
link
or
d
and
you're
only
showing
them
two.
So
it
becomes
obvious
that
well
one
there
wasn't
a
relationship
yeah.
C
Yeah,
it's
like.
I
get
the
point
like
it's.
I
guess
that
is
what
we
should
be
looking
at
right
now
since,
like
we
should
not
be,
you
know
giving
a
false
idea
to
the
user
that
when
you
click
when
you
click
on
a
particular
I
mean
these
two
courses,
chapters
will
be
the
same
for
every
service
mistake
like
we
should
not
giving
them
this
idea,
because
it
won't
be
right
yeah.
C
So
I
guess
we
can.
What
we
can
do
is
like
for
each
and
every
course
we
have.
We
can
have
a
introduction
chapter,
and
that
would
actually
I
don't
know
whether
it's
a
good
thing
or
not
to
have
a
table
of
content
over
there
in
that
area.
E
A
A
So
the
testing
select
testing
and
then
go
to
react.
C
B
Sounds
great,
as
a
matter
of
fact,
it's
exactly
why
we're
reusing
is
because
we
don't
need
to
figure
it
out
like
they
already
figured
it
out.
So
you
know
like
it's
it's,
but
we're
not
trying
to
reinvent
here,
whereas
we
are
on
other
projects
here,
we're
just
trying
to
get
something
that
someone
has
considered
for
those
things
and
has
an
answer
for
those
things
and
so
yeah.
This
is
good.
B
B
It
says
I
think
it
says
service
mesh
is
available
or
something,
and
so
one
is
a
switcher
and
the
other
one
is
I'm
not
sure
but
yeah.
I
could
see
a
user
getting
confused
between
thinking
that
there
were
two.
There
were
two
swishers
in
different
places.
C
C
B
B
Okay,
that
great
this
is
looking
good.
A
A
Cool
so
before
moving
on
to
the
next
topic,
I
see
there's
a
participant
named
chris
ogari
goodness.
So
chris
is
your.
Is
this
your
first
time
on
the
website.
B
A
B
Okay,
cool,
okay,
yeah,
I
don't
know
just
another
nigerian,
I
guess
you
know,
that's
just
there's
a
lot
of
sarcasm
that
flows
on
around
on
the
calls.
So
so
just
joking
with
you,
there
was
some.
B
There
was
another
individual
who
had
joined
and
they
said
they
had
said
that
they
were
from
from
kenya
and
and
then
I
it
always
gives
me
a
chance
to
pick
on
anita
who's
on
the
call
who's
consistently
on
on
a
lot
of
the
calls
and
there's
just
a
lot
of
folks
from
nigeria
specifically,
and
so
it's
about
the
only
way
that
I
can
sort
of
poke
at
her.
But
it's
even
then
it
doesn't
really
work
nice
to
have
you
goodness,
that's
great.
B
I
think
we
have
a
topic
for
you
and
anita
and
some
others
today.
So
this
that's
good.
A
Okay,
so
then
we'll
move
on
to
the
next
topic
in
the
same
section,
learning
that's
right
in
my
about
the
updates
to
the
sidebar
on
chapters
page
is
in
my
present.
B
A
So
basically,
we
had
some
the
pr
fixes,
some
small
styling
issues
like
on
the
current
sidebar.
If
you
go,
the
breaking
of
the
course
name
into
two
lines
doesn't
differentiate
into
two
courses
instead
of
into
the
same
course.
Instead,
it
looks
like
we
have
two
separate
courses
which
is
advanced
concept
of
service
mesh
service
and
then
measures
handle
so
just
some
styling
updates
to
that
book,
which
grows
a
bit
and
also
fixes
the
alignment
of
the.
A
Lines
so
it
reduces
the
spacing
within
the
portion
to
look
at
like
a
similar
force
instead
of
differentiating
between
them.
Apart
from
that
yeah
also
other
one
is
we
had
that
feature
earlier,
but
it
wasn't
working
properly
and
that
was
suppose.
Xp
are
on
a
course
right
now,
and
this
is
the
first
chapter
which
is
getting
started
then
in
the
table
of
component.
If
the,
if
you
go
through
the
toc,
you
might
not
understand,
okay,
which
chapter
I
am
now.
B
A
A
A
And
I
tried
it
on
my
environment
at
least,
and
I
have
rated
the
pr
with
the
comic
which
at
least
worked
for
me.
So
if
we
all
face
the
issue,
you
all
can
try
it
on
your
browser
to
confirm
if
it
works.
Fine
right,
okay,
I
updated
that
to
work.
It
works
right,
but
I'm
not
sure
it
might
vary
for
different
resolutions.
A
B
C
So,
like
it's
not
visible,
but
it's
like.
If
I
do
this
there's
this,
I
don't
know
what's
popping
up,
can
you
guys
see
it.
A
H
A
A
A
B
All
right
one
one
last
thing
and
then
we'll
move
on
it's
it's
difficult
to
see,
but
the
vertical
line
is
just
off
to
the
left
like
like
it's
pretty
hard
to
see.
You
almost
have
to
take
my
word
for
it
that
it
is-
and
this
is
these
aren't
this
isn't
super
critical
or
anything,
but
it's
just
off
to
the
left
and
there's
a
little
bit
of
there's
a
little
bit
of
the
line
coming
out
underneath
here.
B
A
C
A
A
Okay,
so
maybe
if
nitish
or
aditya,
someone
of
you
can
like
inform
chine
about
this
change,
if
they
can
incorporate
in
the
pr
itself
like
yeah.
A
Okay,
then,
we'll
move
on
to
the
next
topic,
that's
again
by
nikhil,
and
it
looks
like
an
epic
issue
so
over
to
unique.
A
A
Okay,
so
that's
an
open
call
out
for
anyone
who
wants
to
contribute
to
mark
down
or
want
to
try
their
hands
on
basically
so
like,
as
we
have
seen
the
learn
energy
section
for
layer
5
website,
so
we
saw
different
courses
and
all
so
we
are
in
need
to
add
one
more
course
from
the
information
is
available
on
the
github
repo
as
well
so
you'll
have
to
like
look
into
the
sigma
project.
The
design
spec
like
appropriate
info
would
be
there
and
you
can
like
try
it
out
to
migrate
the
course.
A
B
Nice
so
yeah
there
might.
There
might
be
a
few
folks
on
the
call
who
haven't
had
an
opportunity
to
contribute
to
layer
5.
io
to
to
this
gatsby
site.
This
is
actually
a
this
particular
call
out
that
josh
is
making
is
a
nice
way
of
easing
into
that,
because
you'll
run
into
challenges,
even
with
just
working
with
this
markdown
challenge,
and
I
won't
go
over
what
the
challenges
will
be,
but
it's
so,
which
means
it's
a
good
way
to
get
in
and
start
understanding.
The
system.
A
Okay,
then
we'll
move
on
to
the
next
topic:
that's
where
anita
about
the
community
handbook
so
anita,
would
you
be
giving
an
update
on
this.
J
Yes,
so
I've
been
trying
to
put
up
the
because
one
mentioned
the
friday
meeting,
some
persons
volunteered
that
they
would
help
us
with
the
community
handle.
B
J
Yes,
so
I
created
a
group
for
those
that
volunteered
to
help
up
with
community
handbook,
and
then
I
went
ahead
to
check
other
samples
from
other
communities
that
have
gone
through
the
handbook,
and
I
saw
the
one
that
I
use
git
book.
You
can
check
the
option
here.
J
Yes,
so
this
is
like
when
we
started
the
handbook.
This
is
the
picture
I
actually
had
in
my
head
like
the
arrangement
on
the
web
page.
You
look
something
like
this.
I
like
the
way
it's
organized
everything
looks
neat.
You
don't
have
to
think
of
where
to
start
everything
is
aligned
and
properly
arranged.
J
So
this
looks
really
good
and
presentable
for
the
community
handbook,
but
if
this
doesn't
work
as
an
option,
then
the
second
one
I
thought
of
was
this
one
from
the
wiki,
although
I
don't
like
the
organization
of
this
one,
but
if
we're
not
using
any
of
the
samples,
are
we
going
to
put
it
on
the
website
like
create
a
new
layout
or
from
the
using
gatsby?
J
And
now
I'm
going
to
create
a
new
layout
for
the
handbook
from
scratch
or
we're
going
to
use
github
or
any
other
documentation,
so
that'll
make
the
whole
process
easier
and
then
faster.
J
So
that's
what
I
thought
of
and
in
the
community
handbook.
I
also
noticed
that
there
are
some
things
missing.
Like
we
mentioned
last
time,
there's
a
mailing
list
that
we're
supposed
to
include,
and
also
the
cncf
event,
we've
not
included
this.
This
was
supposed
to
be
linked
to.
It
seems
to
be
perfect
yeah.
This
was
supposed
to
be
an
issue,
but
there
for
my
calculations.
It
would
be
better
if
this
exists
on
the
community
handbook,
because
it's
a
list
of
events
that
people
could
scroll
through
they're
going
to
commit
to
handbook.
J
So
I
feel
like
that's
the
best
place,
to
also
list
the
cncf
events,
and
also
there
are
some
some
other
changes
that
would
make
subsequently,
but
it's
still
very,
very
rough
sketch
we'll
have
a
meeting
today
or
tomorrow,
depending
on
the
availability
of
everyone
that
opts
to
volunteer
for
this
particular
task.
J
Yes,
so
that's
those
are
the
options.
I
have
I
like
to
use
the
git
book
which,
from
the
chaos
community
or
create
a
layout
using
the
on
the
near
five
sites
from
the
scratch
and
design
it
on.
Oh.
B
This
is,
this
is
exciting.
This
is
so
actually
before
I
say
a
bunch
of
stuff.
Let
me
just
let
me
step
back
and
say
ruth
did
you
want?
Do
you
want
to
say
anything
about
this.
B
And
and
ruth
might
not
be
in
a
place
to
talk
but
anita
cheated.
F
B
F
Yeah
so
some
contacts,
like
anita,
said
the
community
handbook.
You
know
said
some
months
ago
with
some
she
could
have
had
participants
that
you
know
did
the
open
source
bootcamp.
So
now
we
want
to,
you
know,
move
forward
with
that
and
make
it.
You
know
more
presentable
right
because
it
was
a
short
period
was
for
one
month,
so
you
would
it
wasn't.
You
know
presentable
at
that
point,
so
it
was
for
one
month
before
I
was
hormones,
so
we
are
looking
at.
F
I
actually
think
the
git
book
would
be
a
good
option
right.
The
two
options
are
great
by
the
way,
but
guest
book
could
be
like
you
know,
a
good
option
because,
as
anita
presented
from
the
example,
I
really
like
the
way
that
one
was
you
know
arranged,
but
then
the
other
option
about
you
know
building
a
page
for
it.
It
depends
on
how
the
page
is
going
to
be.
Is
the
page
going
to
like
still
list
out?
F
You
know
different
sections
where
you
move
to
the
next
page
again,
because
they
would
have
one
page
having
the
whole
information.
So
we
can
have
a
git
book
and
maybe
a
a
url
that
will
link
to
the
git
book,
so
it
I
I
actually
vote
for.
If,
if
we
can
vote
I'll
vote
for
the
kickbook.
B
And
well,
I
guess:
in
the
blog
post,
the
blogs
were
already
there,
but
but
for
all
of
the
areas,
all
of
the
sections
we
go
to
length
to
include
them
on
the
same
site
when
we
can.
The
disqus
forum
is
technically
a
separate
thing
and
that's
why
it
has
its
own
subdomain,
because
it's
technically
a
technically
a
separate
server.
B
That's
running
a
full
discourse
server,
and
so,
but
we've
done
what
we
can
to
try
to
style
it
to
make
it
look
like
you're,
really
not
going
anywhere
and
so
for
something
as
simple
as
a
collection
of
pages.
That's
really
like!
There's,
no
there's
it's
very
little
work
to
just
include
it
in
the
same
framework
to
not
put
up
bringing
in
a
separate
framework,
so
so
the
git
book
format
it
looks
great
and
just
in
creating
a
new
collection
and
having
a
navigator
over
those
pages.
B
It
can
be
done
as
simple
as
that,
and
actually
that's
really
simple
like
that
component,
that
we
were
just
looking
at
the
with
the
vertical
what
they
had
the
chapters
that
you
were
sort
of
vertically.
Selecting
between
that.
Actually,
I
don't
mean
to
make
it
sound,
not
not
like
overly
easy,
but
but
actually
just
having
that
one
component.
B
B
It's
probably
somewhere
less
than
20
and
and
like
having
a
simple?
Having
that
that
same
navigator
is
pretty
easy
like
like
there's,
like
you
just
end
up
needing
another
collection
like
like
a
collection
like
blog
posts
or
like
the
books
or
like
the
learning,
there's
a
bunch
of
collections.
That
gatsby
has
I
mean
that
you
can
then
query
pull
up
and
then
have
in
a
list,
and
you
still
have
it
as
part
of
the
same
site.
B
B
B
You
know
very
similar
to
getbook
that
some
of
the
components,
if
you've
not
looked
around
the
layer,
five
dot,
io
slash,
learn
ng.
There
are
components
within
there
that
would
be
probably
potentially
just
things
to
reuse
and
actually,
if
they
get
reused
that
will
help
make
it
feel
like
a
cohesive
site.
So
not
only
will
it
make
it
easy
easier
to
deliver,
but
it
will
make
the
site
look
cohesive,.
B
Does
any
of
that
on
a
line?
So
so
the
the
development
work,
there's
kind
of
two
two
aspects
of
the
development
work
for
the
handbook,
so
one
is
pretty
much
the
same,
whether
you're
using
git
book
or
not,
which
is
there's
markdown
files
that
have
the
content
that
that
layout,
the
structure
have
the
content
link
between
them
and
that
kind
of
a
thing
and
there's
a
second
set
of
development
work
that
goes
on
with
respect
to
navigating
the
content
like
having.
B
B
Either
looks
like,
or
just
the
the
structure
layout
of,
like
hey,
there
will
be
these
four
sections
or
these
five
sections
in
the
handbook,
this
one's
about
meetings
and
this
one's
about.
I
I
don't
know
what
the
different
sections
are,
but
that
that's
certainly
something
to
do
is
like
what
it.
What
does
the
skeleton
look
like?
What's
the
outline?
B
B
F
Yeah
for
this
I
I've
really
not
navigated
the
ng
site.
This
really
looks
good,
so
we
should
use
this
pattern
also
right,
because
then
you
have
that
by
the
side
you
have
those
headings
meshes
hands
on
and
then
the
list
of
you
know
what
is
in
that
section.
So
this
also
looks
great.
You
can
also
use
this.
I
haven't
really
looked
at
the
ng
site,
so
yeah
this
looks
great
yeah,
good,
yeah
cool
yeah,
so
I
think
we
can
start
off.
First,
is
you
know
updating
start
start
with
updating?
F
You
know
the
the
content
we
have
right
now,
because
some
of
those
things
you
know
have
gone
out.
You
know
processes
have
changed.
So
I
think
what
we
can
start
with
is
updating
the
information
there
then
also
and
creating
that
skeleton
you
talked
about
right,
so
we
know
okay,
when
when
content
is
ready,
then
we
can
start.
You
know
development
right,
so
we're
doing
two
things
by
the
side.
That's
joining
up
this
collection
then
also
updating
the
information
that
is
currently
the
content.
F
And
anita
has
also
like
created
that
slack
chat
for
the
persons
that
want
to
you
know,
go
on
with
this,
so
just
in
case
you
want
to
take
this
onto
you.
Can
ping
anita
for
me.
So
would
add
you
to
that
slack
chat.
B
B
I
think
that's
right,
and
then
there
are
a
couple
of
other
folks
that
are
on
the
phone
that
might
be
helpful
to
have
involved
from
the
perspective
of
being
familiar
with
gatsby
or
being
being
familiar
with
some
of
the
components
that
are
being
used
on
the
learn,
ng
area,
so
that,
as
you
guys
go
to
do
the
designs
there,
someone
there
to
help,
I
don't
know
I
was
thinking.
B
B
F
He's,
what's
your
name
on
this
on
slack,
it's
still
it's
the
volcano.
A
A
Yeah,
so
I'm
saying
like
till
the
next,
we
have
this
community
meeting
this
friday,
so
we
can
discuss
the
update.
So
if
we
can
have
a
short
goal
like
if
we
can
complete
the
updation
part,
that
anita
was
mentioning
about
the
information
and
we
can
have
a
brief
overview
or
like
architecture
like
just
the
name
of
the
sections
we'll
be
using
on
the
left
hand,
side
by
friday,
okay
sure
that
works
friday.
A
A
B
Again,
not
really
just,
I
think,
just
to
mention
it
briefly
for
everyone
else,
and
actually,
since
rudraksha
is
on
the
phone
as
well.
This
is
good
that's
to
say
that
it's
it's
been
twice
that
the
disqus
forum,
you
discussed.layer5.io,
which,
by
the
way
anita,
has
been
a
great
champion
of
people
using
it
has
been
unavailable
briefly
twice,
and
that
is
unnerving.
You
know-
and
it's
been
the
same
reason
both
times
so
the
the
there
are
two
discus
forum
or
discourse
forums
that
we're
running.
B
One
is
disqus.layer5.io,
the
other
one
is
staging,
it's
staging
hyphen
discuss.layer5.io
and
they
are
both
aws
ec2
vms.
They
both
have
a
secondary.
They
both
have
one
volume,
that's
directly
associated
to
that
virtual
machine.
They
both
also
have
a
secondary
volume
attached
that
secondary
volume
is
not
being
auto
mounted
and
is
not
like
it's
not.
Logically.
The
two
volumes
are
not
logically
spanned,
which
is
okay,
that
second
part,
but
so
on.
Reboot
they're,
not
logically
the
the
the
second
one
isn't
mounted.
B
The
servers
have
been
running
out
of
space
and
that's
in
part
because
they're
not
using
that
second
volume,
also
when
they
reboot
their
docker
is
instance,
is
not
set
to
start
on
boot.
Docker
service
rather
and
so
yep.
There's
a
pem.
There's
a
certificate
to
hand
to
you
guys
to
let
you
go.
Have
you
go?
Take
a
look
on
staging.discuss.layer5.io.
B
Implement
a
solution
and
then
to
do
the
same
on
the
production
site
so
for
anyone
who's
done
linux
systems,
administration,
it's
a
walk
in
the
park
for
anyone
who
hasn't
it
can
be
scary.
So
this
is
a
good
learning
opportunity
for
some,
but
josh
I'll,
get
you
those
credentials
and
root.
Rocks
is
probably
time
to
get
you.
Those
as
well.
A
B
My
head
might
explode,
what's
going
on,
what's
going
on,
okay,
so
outside
of
just
the
pem
there's
also
yeah,
there's
also,
let's
get
you
guys
access
to
the
aws
console
as
well,
so
because
with
having
just
the
ssh
certificate,
it's
not
you
know
like
in
this
case.
You
can't
get
into
the
system
because
the
system's
going
to
be
down
so
all
right.
So
I'll
hang
out
with
you
guys,
just
after
the
call,
I
thought
we
had
one
other
topic
or
two
societan.
B
H
B
So
he
was
he's
been
working
on
an
email
template
for
release
announcements.
So
when
we
release
mesherie
it
geez,
we
should
probably
tell
people
about
that,
especially
the
people
that
are
using
it
and
for
the
smaller
release
announcements.
It's
easy
enough
to
eventually
automate
those
eventually
right
now
and
just
shaytan.
Do
you
want
to
share
your
screen
or.
E
B
So
so
you
know
so
we
have
a
few
software
projects.
We
release
new
versions
of
the
software
actually
I'll.
Let
you
introduce
this.
G
E
E
E
But
I
think
lee
wanted
some
changes
in
the
footer,
so
yeah.
B
Yeah
and
that's
it
so
yeah,
just
a
big
because
we're
a
little
bit
over
time,
I'll,
try
to
speak
quickly
and
that's
to
say
that
the
email
service
that
we're
using
at
the
moment
is
mailchimp
and
they
charge
an
eye-gouging
amount
for
it's
just
stupid
and-
and
we
don't
need
to
be,
we
can
take
this
mail
template
and
just
send
it
through
google
groups
anyway,
anyway,
for
right
now
we're
using
mailchimp
and
as
part
of
their
service,
they
do
require
that
there
be
a
footer
or
that
there
be
the
ability
for
someone
to
unsubscribe
in
in
the
footer
and
which
is
what
we
have.
B
We
have
this
manager
email
preferences
and
we
are
paying
for
the
account
and
paying
for
the
nearly
3000
people
who
are
subscribed
here,
but
this
footer
doesn't
meet
their
criteria,
I'm
not
exactly
sure
what
their
criteria
is.
So
if
shaytan
sends
a
test
of
this
email,
it
will
say
it
will
tag
on
another
footer.
So
I
attend
that.
That's
one
thing
for
us
to
figure
out
what?
B
B
Their
phrasing
is
a
little
more
insinuative
of
us
having
spammed
someone
which
doesn't
feel
good,
and
so
so,
if
you
would
there's
a
few
people
on
the
call
who
I'm
sure
are
interested
to
maybe
receive
a
test
email
like
a
test
preview.
So
if
you
click
out
of
this,
the
x
in
the
upper
right
hand
corner
so
by
the
way
this
email
template
is
quite
rote.
I
mean
like,
like
the
yeah.
B
B
Yeah
shaitan.
If
you
can
hit
exit
this
mode
cool,
if
you
go
see
the
in
the
upper
right
hand,
corner
it,
says
preview
and
test
and
yep
send
a
test
email.
Then,
if
there's
a
few
folks
who
might
there's
speak
to
there's
a
few
folks
who
might
give
you
their
email
address,
you
can
send
a
few
tests
around.
Have
them
comment.
Have
them
check
it
in
their
mail
clients,
so
in
their
web
browser
on
gmail
in
their
thick
mail
client
on
their
app?
B
You
know
on
their
mobile
phone
new
kind
of
thing.
It
the
reason
that
we're
starting
the
the
only
like
the
only
value
well,
one
of
the
few
pieces
of
value
that
mailchimp
is
giving
us
in
this
case
is
hopefully
this
mail
template
is
responsive,
like
hopefully
they're
taking
care
of
the
mobile
views
and
the
different
mail
clients,
and
so
so,
there's.
E
B
Okay,
good:
let's
move
on
we're
slightly
out
of
time
and
yes,
you're
right.
We
need
to
check
these
various
clients.
E
B
B
A
I
I
So
this
is
the
other
part
which
I
added
I
have
to
work
on
the
discus
call
out,
because
that
was
supposed
to
be
of
for
the
other
pages
as
well.
This
is
a
very
simple
format
right
now,
this
I'll
try
to
make
it
a
little
more
attractive,
but
the
web
page
is
looks
like
this
right
now,
so
I
thought
it's
too
much
text
so,
but
I
don't
have
a
lot
of
pictures
to
add
right
now,
so
that
is
what
I
had
to
show.
A
This
is
so,
I
sorry
to
interrupt
so
I
just
wanted
to
confirm
whether
the
url
would
be
like.
I
think
we
should
update
it.
D
B
B
Boy
I'm
trying
to
be
concise
because
we're
gonna
have
a
lot
of
time
and
that's
all
that's
hard
for
me
being
concise,
the
yeah
to
josh's
point
like
if
we,
if
it
was
to
land
behind
projects,
it
would
be
measury
hyphen
lowercase,
oh.
I
B
Fair
enough
I'll
send
it
in
slack
this.
Is
you
I'm,
I
think
well
of
how
you
have
fabricated
this
page
from
nothing
you'd,
be
surprised
at
how
many
boys
come
on
this
call
and
they're
quite
skilled
at
like
making
components
and
stuff,
but
they
like
cannot
get
past.
They
have
like
zero
imagination
to
just
put
some
words
and
pictures
on
the
screen
and
it's
dumbfounding.
A
I
think
we'll
wrap
up
with
this
we'll
have
the
I'll
I'll,
add
the
comments
on
slack
itself
and
with
taking
that
lease
comments
on
our
designing
skills,
we'll
wrap
up
today.
A
So
it
was
a
nice
call.
We
had
many
topics
to
discuss
and
we
covered
almost
all
of
them
and
it
was
good
because
lee
had
to
speak
less
today
and
that's
why?
Okay,
so
we'll
move
on
to
the
next
meeting,
we'll
we'll
continue
with
what
we
have
left
into
the
next
meeting
on
the
next
monday's
websites
call
and
if
you
are
involved
somewhere
else,
we'll
see
you
in
the
other
calls
as
well
and
for
the
updates
I've
added
the
damage
in
the
meeting
itself.