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1st draft of the new Meshery page.

A

Haley good morning.

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A

Well, that's the only indication, so I'm gonna stick with that.

B

Okay play it safe.

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All right, let's start in a minute.

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I think we're missing talent and.

C

He'll be joining in a minute. I say it's fine, okay,.

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Also, hey nipple, I haven't seen you on websites before.

A

I haven't been here that long, so that might not be true. Yeah, like I guess it's my first time joining this call, I'm just trying to be little active in the community again. So yeah. That's, that's the try! I'm trying! Oh hey! That's! That's nice!.

A

All right, thank you all right, we're three minutes in it's a pretty big agenda. Let's start josh, you want to take it away.

C

uh Yeah so, like I think I'll be starting, uh so is anyone new like who will be having any intro or something.

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uh I think faith has already been on call. If I remember right, I think aniruddha hasn't.

C

Hello- I am very new here. This is my first meeting, so I just want to here to I want to discuss my I am having a facing a problem, so I will discuss it here.

A

Sure, that's nice, uh which project have you been working on.

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uh Service mesh.

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All right, I think we can go on with him first like I'll. Just uh do it after him. All.

A

Right all right, I never thought you can go and have first chance.

C

Okay, so it was a good first issue. Okay, so uh basically I just want to uh what my task was to add a background color. uh So, as you can see that in presentation means in screenshot, you can see there is white space and I just want to add the colors, so just petal had helped me in finding out which file should I edit, like and also neil, is also one of the member he's also helped.

C

He had also helped me in that thing, but uh the problem is when I edit this uh a particular file, name block.scss, uh I I am unable to means apply the changes like I'm. I can't see my changes in that uh blog html, it's blocker. When I run like uh when I insert on my that site. Look on localhost, I was unable to see all my changes.

A

Okay, uh this is in the left, right, dot, io website.

C

C

No, it's it's the smp site, so I.

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In working with this website so like I thought you will be better to guide him.

A

Is neil on call with us.

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To share your desktop.

A

Yeah sure good, we can fix.

C

It for you, okay, okay, uh wait! uh I will join. Give me a one minute. I will join it from my text. uh Pc.

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C

Also congratu for joining as a community manager.

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Thanks josh.

B

It's a life of uh servitude.

A

I'm not gonna commit to that yeah.

B

There's all kinds of things just not to touch this morning.

C

I think lee has also shifted his place, like the background, seems to be different.

B

Oh yeah, for those who have been while we're probably waiting for a naruto to share for those who've been paying attention to the to the scenery. um I got kicked out of the main house, I'm back in the pool house, um which is really I um well ironic, actually, because we have three kids at home and they've been doing virtual learning, which has made for a lot of interruptions and distractions and and uh and actually they're, all back in school physically as of today um and for some reason right.

B

At the same time, I get pushed out to the uh to the guest house to the pool house. So anyway, if I'm curious is, is it more echoey, my voice at all.

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C

Cool okay, give me a minute: I am just joining. It. Wait a minute.

C

Is nikhil on call today.

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I don't think so.

C

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I'll message nikhil see if he's around speaking of announcements of uh I don't know if nikhil has mentioned it, and I don't.

B

I don't think I'm spoiling that much of a surprise but uh he's just been offered a full-time role at red hat, which is which is awesome with something that really that we've been working toward for him for like a year.

B

So next time you see him, you have to ask him about it.

A

Yeah all right, why are we waiting for another? We can actually go ahead and somebody else can start josh. I'm calling in you again.

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Yeah, I I do not have any problem I'll just uh share like.

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Share subscribe.

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Is my screen visible yep? Yes,.

C

Okay, so the thing is like uh in as in the previous meeting, it was like we need to add a definition or sort of something below, so I just tried uh having this features thing on the top of the landing page, and I like for my personal opinion. I think it suits very much uh if you land on this page, and the next thing I have added is like the numbers that were uh that was just uh like doing some javascript tricks.

C

I have just uh added them uh in like uh for the like of under the categories like for the performance. We do have the performance tests run and for life cycle. We do have the number of service messages supported, and this one is like uh that. Data only would be like sharing with me soon and moving further I for now I have migrated the data and a few things I have changed in in this part and.

C

The code yeah so andy as the uh faq's part, uh I have used the template that is been provided by the by the template and yeah. So that's all like uh the things that are remaining are the uh contact uh sections and uh that would be- uh and there was an smp section in the so I'll, just open the previous site. Also.

C

Yeah, so uh there is an another section for smp over here again so like uh there was a thing whether to include it with this section or like to keep it different, and this community section will be added uh after I think after this pr, because uh there is already been an component added by a contributor for like a component of this uh contact section so that can directly be used over here.

C

uh Okay, so yeah, that's all uh now open to feedbacks, and I, like I'm, really open to so much of feedbacks. I feel.

B

I love how strong the um the words are here. We might even be able to actually it's kind of an interesting thought that that it's a sentence like with a period like there's finality on the end of that, um but I suppose in general we would probably skip the punctuation on the page.

B

We might be able to shorten this to measuring and then underneath.

B

Yeah or since the logo is right up above it, yet we might be able to drop mystery is.

B

But uh josh I have got more feedback than can be written down. This is great. This is it's really good. It was really great, though, um and so I'll find a session with you to do that. But does anyone else have feedback here?

B

Is anyone else um so as we by the way, as just for context for everyone as we're moving forward into this new framework? I'm excited about the scalability of the framework. I'm excited to bring forth, um hopefully just a much easier way to for all of you to contribute.

B

With a little more power, maybe- and that's actually a point of concern that I'll put into the meeting minutes now and but it has to do with um plugins like those that automatically resize images for blog posts that any of you might write.

B

I I'm not sure if sure, if that's happening or not, I think when I look on the site previews on netlify, um it might have different behavior than when we're deploying to prod when we're deploying to github pages.

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Has anyone noticed that.

D

It's happening for the thumbnails for inside. If we are including the images inside the block, it's not happening there. We can change that.

C

Yeah so I'll just like to comment, because uh when I created the uh tight section title component for the individual pages, I think I had explicitly mentioned the uh width and the height and that won't, I think, like uh I don't think that is also mentioned for the grid view. Like can you confirm.

D

You mean the above the page, header.

C

Yeah, so in the in the individual pages I have, I explicitly declared those like heights and those things for the individual pages, but for the grid grid view, I don't think that's been done.

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Yeah, it's happening, it will automatically, it will. The maximum which it can take is, I think, 400 pixels and it will adjust the height automatically.

C

So I think the issue is not with uh the height, and I think, like uh solely is that is the issue related to like we do have different heights of the images or something like that.

B

Yeah or for the I think, is it the sharp image plug-in that we're using yeah. If I recall, okay, that my understanding was that it might go about doing the task of taking an image that might be of a large size and then producing you know, generating like two or three more um medium images like medium size, thumbnail and so on, so that.

D

Yeah, it's happening like yeah, so you.

B

Can use yourself thumbnails.

D

Yeah on the grid.

D

Yeah, it will be something like uh the maximum with the image can take. Whatever may be the size, it will automatically scale it down to uh 500. 500 pixels of maximum width and height will be adjusted accordingly. So.

D

It is, it is also happening for the page headers part. I think it is not happening for the svgs, because um svgs are not supported, and this is hyped automatically.

C

Svgs are very much of concern because when I was also working uh in this section, so I I also had to make a few workarounds to like incorporate.

C

B

Okay, um sorry, I got distracted by uh the title of the blog post. I just can't think of uh can help, but think of newport. Every time I see that it's such a such an awesome, blog post title, I'm sorry to clarify, then so I understand that the thumbnails are being auto-generated and that's helping with load time here on on the grid view, which is great yeah.

B

I think you were calling out a caveat with respect to when we uh or when post authors will, if they're explicitly making, if they're explicitly including an image and linking to it. What was the caveat that that that.

D

Overrides and uh if you just open an individual block scroll down.

D

Not this and a blog having.

D

Images something like this: if an author is including images inside the blog, it is not happening in that case.

B

Oh, irrespective of what the author, it doesn't matter how they reference the image the plugin just doesn't account for these. Do.

D

Maybe it's possible replace the image tag. I think all the blogs are currently using the html image tag. We try to replace it using the.

B

Gatsby image.

D

B

That makes sense, there's that I'll write that down just so there's that and then I wonder too. Maybe this is something we just don't know right now, but I wonder uh what will happen when strappy uh comes into use and how it might help facilitate a more native interaction with gatsby or not.

D

Yeah, that is also one thing I wanted to discuss, so uh I don't know how much flexibility strap is going to provide, while writing the blogs currently, because there are many blogs which have a lot of stylings and code pieces, so code block. So I don't know if gatsby is going to be able to handle so many things, not that the strap is able to going to handle. So many things also, we have to check it out.

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I remember from a meeting with drew. It was something like it does: support md right support, md.

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So like for the images and the styling part it, I think it will be very similar to what we do have in the jekyll based current website, like that's, also an md base. So like it, it would be um very much similar to like uh having those entire md files copied and like the only thing that would be changing is like uh the currently. We do right front matter in the md file itself, but maybe uh we could have some uh like fields or some fields which which we can fill uh like.

C

It can be like a title and there would be a box to fill the title and subtitle, but for the body part. uh So if we want that flexibility we'll have to anyways go with the conventional md right.

D

Yep that that's also, I don't know if how much styling strappy is going to support out.

B

It's a good yeah. It's a good preemptive call well yeah we'll have to well to see.

B

It may be that we're able to add a little bit of generic styling for I'm sorry, a little bit of styling for common things that we would find like uh the embedding of a video, um the embedding of an image, a list and like an unordered list, and then we might find that it's somewhat limited beyond that and the actually this right here does that copy.

B

Does that copy, where oh, that's, fantastic, yeah, so yeah I can't uh mccool isn't on? Is he or no.

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Or jews nope, okay, we'll we'll I'm writing.

C

Down a couple of these questions currently, if we see the scope of the block that we have currently uh the most used styles are like for uh image on the right, underwriter section on the left section, or a full division image and the code block and the iframe so like.

C

If we, uh if we try to have something like a predefined template for blogs, uh having only features uh such as this, then we can like uh so like uh yeah, flexibility will be lost, but like it will, it will be a trade-off, or so I think that would be much more easier to discuss with someone who is inside step yeah. I guess.

B

I'm taking notes, you know fair enough.

A

Hey uh earlier that you mentioned with all the questions, do you mean a guide sort of with the blogs for anybody attempting to find one.

B

Like a blog um authoring guide yep, um I didn't mean that, but we need one.

A

All right uh josh, are you done? Is that the feedback you're looking for.

C

So I think that feedback would be a personal feedback, not open at all.

A

All right, um I don't you can go ahead.

C

C

Okay, uh so, while anirudh uh uh starts, if uh nikhil or shriti or lee or nupur or tanoj, anyone has uh feedback so like. I also pushed a draft pr so like. If you have some feedback, you can also add comments over there.

A

Okay and take a look.

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On this side, I'm working with currently so, okay.

C

This is my current site so which I'm working on. I just want to add here some colors.

C

When I am editing this blog.sca file, uh I am not able to apply any changes to it like uh see uh here. I can, let's see now, let's say here. I am adding change like a background. Color.

C

Let's say we have, for example, we have applied aqua, color, okay, so.

C

Sure, okay, so here, let's see uh I'm not able to means my changes are not applied. uh Can you figure out what is my what I'm making mistake in this like uh where I'm selecting my edit.

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uh Yeah, actually is that css start actually used in this blog post.

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uh See uh here I am not able to see that a css file elements. Any changes means like here. We can see that the root.css or any other files are used, but I am unable to see that log.scss name.

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uh So if my voice is clear, it is thing uh what you can do is. First of all, you can check which css file is being used for this page, and another thing is that uh sometimes which occur: it happens that when you make changes to the css or sdss files online reload, the css doesn't gets populated on the site. So what I will suggest is that uh close the live. We look and go okay, folder and reach it again.

C

Yeah. Please, uh can you.

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Again, I have closed it.

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Okay, now I will again generate my site.

C

uh By the way, are you sure this css file has been used on that page? Well, I was also not sure I guess jesh or yeah if I'm not wrong,.

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Had help in finding out that file, and also uh one member from that uh neil, we had also figured out that I should mostly probably edit, that file.

C

I would say that if you can confirm if that file is being used or not from the desktop, so only you can see that, but from.

C

I was not able to see that site's name that file's name. There were many uh other css files, but uh that name was. I was not able to see.

C

I think that uh skss file is not termed, not flam is not used or anything like that.

A

As far as I remember, it was but being made a lot of changes to the site, so I won't commit to that statement.

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What I can do is, I can have go, have a look at it and I can get back to you with the right ss file to use here.

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Like the thing was, the class names were like the class name that was used in the blogs dot. Html was the semi like was the same that the class that was declared inside the blog dot css. So I thought it would be like uh using those css files, but as I was not clear, so I asked him to like uh come over here and like ask the.

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Actually made the website so.

A

Sure uh I'll ask neil to help as well I'll go. Take a look I'll get back to you die tonight.

C

Okay, wait: I will not stop sure.

A

Okay, thanks for sharing the bedroom thanks for asking you all right, let's move on then.

A

uh The page nation plugin.

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You like to share the screen, or should I.

D

So currently I added the pagination plugin only for the block part. uh There are some issues and I'm I am still solving. uh This is the basic idea like this is how it would work and uh apart from style as something uh one, the only thing I had I wanted to ask was: should we I should, I add the pagination plugin also for that, while filtering by tags, if we have too many blocks, then we need the plugin. Otherwise we.

B

Yeah, don't the behavior is just an infinite scroll, yeah, okay, or rather I should uh let me re-clarify. um Is it in fact infinite scroll, or does it just retrieve all the blogs for that tag for their text? I see okay.

B

Yes, we should have pagination for uh on a tag basis as well.

B

The uh it looks like the default, or rather the url.

B

System of organizing paginated posts- it's in this case, the blogs are all at slash blog, that's where you find the collection of posts and um the slash two slash three. You know like that's just a role that that will just be a rolling set of posts depending upon how many are.

D

There yeah yeah, so we can configure how many blocks we want in a particular page. So currently I have set it to eight.

D

So in the in the slash block part, there will be eight blocks uh then, for the slash two there will be the other eight and so on.

B

And then, okay, any thought as to whether or not we would let some. We would show someone the fact that maybe there's like uh 50 pages 50 pages of eight of the uh you know of a given set of posts and be able to let them let them jump to like the 27th. What have you paige.

D

You can't do that. I think I think it's possible to do that.

B

I wonder yeah uh and maybe that's not functionality that we should, if it doesn't come out of the box with the pagination with the paginate plug-in, maybe there's other more important things to focus on yeah.

B

Okay and sounds like of what you'd seen about the paginate plug-in: did it have that kind of cookie crumb?

B

That's the right way of saying it, but did did it have that ability.

D

I think I saw a way to get the current page number. Maybe I can do something from that uh have to dig in more deeply into the plugin to find out.

B

D

All the functionalities.

B

Yeah yeah, as you are, I wonder if that that plug-in or another one it seems like there would be some common capabilities that you would find with that type of a plug-in and that, and so by the way for everyone. That's on the call right now like um as you're.

B

Well I'll speak for myself and say I'm still learning gatsby and I am encouraged by how many gatsby plug-ins there are. So I imagine, there's maybe more than one paginate plug-in there's common functionality that you would expect to find out of a plug-in like that, where you have old, newer and older posts, yep you'd have the number of the total number of posts.

B

Maybe there's 400 posts in this section you might be able to skip to like it might show you the fact that you could go all the way to the up front, all the way to the end like fast forward. Rewind, all the way to you might be able to let you step or move through these stepwise in terms of the pages or there might be a drop down or just kind of common things that you might expect.

B

Josh you're highlighting a maybe a different plug-in, a gatsby awesome, plug-in.

D

Yeah, I'm using that only.

B

Gatsby paginate different one.

B

You would think the awesome one would be better.

C

The awesome one is uh currently news. I think.

D

B

Just as a recap, by the way we've got some of the controls that we have for the blogs are grid view or list view. um We've got a search. This search is that using lunar js or do we what tech is being used to create the yeah? I.

D

Didn't configure it till then I was waiting for strappy because it was, uh it will take long to implement the search plugin. So I didn't want it to recreate the work if the functionality changed because of shatter.

B

Sure yep makes sense the latest post, um okay yeah, the latest post. We haven't gotten to that portion just yet the.

B

Section just below the search here that I wonder if that would be facilitated by strappy as well.

B

I don't know it sounds like it's about time for us to get into strappy. Is it so we don't.

D

Maybe if, uh if we go too far ahead, maybe scrappy will make us redo many of the things.

B

Yeah yeah, um let me to news: let me get you some aws credentials. Let's, um let's make make a move.

B

Okay, just uh no bitcoin mining. If you would.

C

uh So yeah, I think uh I agree on like we can move to uh strappy because, uh like the next topic we'll be seeing is like, we've migrated almost 80 to 90 percent of website.

C

B

Sorry, oh man, I I spaced out. I don't know if that was. I thought that was was that for me, yeah.

C

Oh sorry, I was reading faith um go ahead, uh so I was just like. I just stated that I think we it's time like we can move to into strappy because, like the migration part is very much like around 80 to 90 percent is already done event that will be seeing in the next topic of the discussion.

B

Nice, okay, then yeah. Let's, uh let's set a goal for this this time next week. Let's have, let's have an instance that maybe is the one that we end up using. Let's make some serious headway um I'll make sure you guys are empowered to to do that. There's a bunch of questions to answer about the full capabilities of strappy.

B

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Very good next item.

A

Yeah. The next item is from you and josh.

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Will you be saying.

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Just asking is my screen visible again: yeah?

C

Okay, so this is the. Let me just give you an insight for those who haven't visited. This is the migration sheet or the migration guide, which we are using to track. How much of the current pages have been migrated and like there, you will be seeing four colors and the four colors uh are like stated over here. uh So there is a thing with exit, exact url match, um url mismatch or the page is yet to be migrated. So uh I think the all the blogs are migrated, and these two blogs are also.

C

I had a chat with the uh contributor who is on this issue and he said he would be like finishing it off in one or two days. So all the blogs, even the newest blogs, the mesh mates and all the blogs have been migrated.

C

Moving on to the next section, the books and the all the three books have been migrated next, moving on for the carriers part so.

B

Sorry to interrupt josh, there's a there's, a there's, a fourth book coming out, and I can't um I think, there's someone working on putting up another page I'll put in another row there to track that.

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But uh please continue here.

C

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Yeah so the next part, the next section is carriers and in carriers also uh like only two of them are remaining to migrate and.

C

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Okay, so I think uh this will be taking uh around three to four days as this has been assigned yesterday and uh three days ago, so the carrier section would be uh done by another three four days like I, uh due to this hectoberfest event, we do have a lot of contributors uh and interested people who are like happy to migrate things so like we are very much thankful to them yeah and for the community.

C

The mesh made space has also been migrated uh and the all the individual members, so the there is a thing that will be. That needs to be updated, like uh as the current in the current site, the mesh mates page. We did had uh addition of uh the time time domain and the like domains where the people work, so that would be uh yet. It is yet to be incorporated in the new site.

D

We also need to do some design changes to the matchmates with a matchmaker's card that would explode and come back to that later. Yeah, like adding the backdrop icon.

C

And for the news section, four of the news articles are.

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I think uh there has been a pr submitted for this article.

C

uh This will be done by this week and.

C

On the this contribute like uh this is currently stale issue as, like the contributor hasn't replied of her interest and yeah. This one is also an open pr has been open, so yeah news articles, uh one of the new one of the issue has to be like taken care of, I think, uh and the others are like will be completed by this week. Moving on to projects, so I am currently working on the mystery page, and that will be, I think, a week long and the other one is the landscape.

C

So uh I think nikhil orly can talk about like what to do with this thing.

B

Petite tripathy is, I think, he's he's giving a crack at the landscape.

C

uh Actually he painted me yesterday so regarding that part, yes, he was working on it, but since he is not so good at react, so he's mr.

D

Taking some more.

C

Okay, moving to.

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Section uh this: this is the section that is entirely left because of the blocked issue for the workshops and the dynamics dynamic page for the workshops grid so like it was on hold from around a month. So the contributor said he would be like happy if someone else could jump in. So I think I'll be also completing this by this week, and I will also create issues for the individual workshops and that won't take much long. So we can expect this in.

C

I guess one and half or two weeks, uh if we, uh if we see for all the workshops like if uh country first time, contributors or they take up for the migrating of the workshops and.

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I'll just intersect her if the issue creating process is too long for you, let me know I'll help.

C

No, so the issue creation process is not long I'll say, but the thing is like I'll be finishing for the workshops and its dynamic part in let's say two or three days, but as like contributors take their own time in migrating the data, so it may vary from like some contributors may, pull have appear in a single day and some might take five to six days so uh for the better set.

C

I'm taking that this, uh this section would take one and a half week to migrate completely if we rely upon uh like if we uh try to give these two country other contributors for migration.

C

The next next section is the programs in which, on the two of the pages are uh yet to be migrated. The hectoberfest I have intentionally put it on hold, because the current website also has frequent changes in the oktoberfest page.

C

So I think uh after the october fest month, or maybe like after the october month or maybe after two or three weeks, we can see of migrating this page because, uh like if we plan to launch this site before october ends, then yeah we'll have to do it uh before then, and for the mlh fellowship page.

C

uh The thing is, uh this also is going under revamp because, uh as lee I had talked with lee so like people to people are working on how this program will go, and so similarly the uh page would also go something some changes, so that would also that is also I created an issue, but that is also uh that would be migrated very soon, but that the final page won't be like ready for now, as long as the current page is not finalized and moving on to the individual pages few of them.

C

So the about page was migrated today, I guess uh no, the about page was migrated uh and the contact page was migrated today, and we do have open issues for brand page and.

D

The brand page is being worked on it. I think it will be done. Yeah.

C

So uh the contributor is working very hard, but as it it requires a lot of css tweaks. So I think that will be also been completed before this week. Right.

D

Yeah, I think so.

C

Moving on to the.

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C

Just I had a point right uh you: why are you working on migrating the workshop speech?

C

I prefer that if you would work on some other better issue which would require much more experience, then we can have other people assigned for the migration yeah. So the thing is, I'm not working on migrating. The workshops page, but uh we have to like it is a it is a type of collection, so uh that would be a dynamic, dynamic thing as we have blogs and we have books. So I like that the person was already assigned from around 15 or 16 days, but uh he uh he said he wa.

C

He is taking time, and so I thought of jumping in yeah. But if anyone else is ready, I don't have an issue. If anyone wants to take this, uh no my point was: is it a blocker for any other work.

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Like once, this page would be migrated and the dynamic thing would be created for this after that, only this issues can be created and worked upon.

C

Okay, I was saying that okay, okay, you can work on it, but uh recently there is a contributor. Previously he was working on the jakai sites. Now he's moved to the layer ng, he has been doing good work, so maybe you can have a talk with him.

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C

I yeah I I will bring helping him on that issue and like, if he's ready, I'm like very much happy to hand over it to him.

C

And like the code of conduct page would be yeah. This is the same contributor that was assigned the workshops page, so I think I'll have to ping him up again and for the events page he's been assigned five days ago and he's a first time contributor. So.

D

Showed interest in working with.

C

He won't be able to.

C

Okay, so I think we can stay on with this for around one or two days, and then we can ping this contributor, if, like he is working on it or we can just shift it to someone else uh for the resources page.

C

Would you like to contribute.

C

Okay, the next is the partners page.

C

Where pratyush is yeah, so he's also showed up some concern that like, if we wish to complete it in a set of time, then it must be assigned to someone else.

C

And the next one is the last one yeah. So this one.

B

Yeah on on something like that on that last one um we we met, you hmm I'm not sure, I'm not sure, quite what the where the line is, but you might want to thank him very much on assign it. It doesn't mean that he can't work on it, but but when someone is assigned to an issue, others don't pick it up because because they don't see it as being available food for thought. I don't know if this is the right instance or not, but but you're empowered there.

C

Yes, it happens actually.

C

Yeah, so currently, this is the uh thing like the last time I visited the issue. I saw that all of them are assigned, but some of them are like a month older. Even uh so, they need to be transferred to some other people.

B

Whose taste yeah there's no.

C

B

C

For the migration and the, as you have seen, I think it's 80 percent of the current website has been migrated.

D

One thing to add: I recently added the redirect plugin. So if some url are too out of place, you can use that for redirecting.

C

Yeah, so I put up at it as a topic, because, when I discussed with lee, uh it was like early had desire like the uh the url. The url must be the same and we like don't wish to incorporate redirect for that purpose. But we wish to use redirect for the uh tags like com, like the community tags or the tags under the categories.

B

Under the blogs.

C

So, like uh that's the next topic, I'll just open, it.

B

C

Like to uh speak about italy,.

B

I'm sure yeah it's um to characterize that a little bit more. If it's possible, you know how we were having we're using it. Is it the kebab slug of fire, the kebab.

D

Yeah, I changed that also recently, so that it fixed some urls.

B

And so it stopped inserting hyphens between numbers, yeah.

C

B

Nice, uh do you know of any residual issues that we have.

D

uh There's some uh just open that migration page like like the third one, the wsl2 201, that is completely different. There is a date before the url yeah.

B

Yeah right yeah that one yeah so for line four the particular issue there is that it was a mishap when it was first published like it. Shouldn't have been published.

B

You know so and that to be that was not very important. uh Like it'll get re-indexed and I don't there, I don't. I haven't seen a lot of inbound references to it. So that's fine we're like that one. We should just move to green and move on.

D

Also yeah for many of the news I think the url is matching. It may be a good idea to include a formal link field. So if the urls are too mismatching, we can fix the url using that, instead of sluggifying, the title.

B

Yeah, um so so we have there are, is like three different concepts, potentially here at least two. So there's there is in terms of how it is that a url is generated for an individual page.

B

Well, I guess there's a number of ways, but but one of those is using a permalink which is um good in some respects, because you can explicitly define what url that page should be available at it's bad in other respects, because it's um hard-coded, you know, if you will. So it's not.

B

But uh another way to help overcome that like to the extent that that hard coding ever became an issue using redirects to capture a couple of other urls and pull visitors in to different urls, pull them into the permalink that helps, um it seems like, ideally, we wouldn't be seems like.

B

Ideally, we wouldn't be in a situation where we're def we're defining or manually defining permalinks, because rather many of the things I mean we will for certain pages, like maybe for a project, a specific project, even at that, probably not when you consider the projects, they're, really important things, there's a lot of people that put time and effort into them, and so I'm just like josh led off this call with trying to represent mescheri very well.

B

It's a highly curated page and, as such it'll be a highly referenced page and the layer. Five that I o slash, meshery has long been a link. That's been propagated far and wide. um The I think, the the place where we're looking to publish that project meshery. It's probably under slash projects, slash meshery now, but we still want- and this is where the redirects like tunisia is saying, come in it's like well, even though it's going to be slash, project, slash measuring.

B

We still want to capture all those inbound links, all those references, so anyone that hits slash meshery. They will be redirected to slash projects measuring and so on, the using measuring page as an example. It sounds like it would carry a redirect, but it may not carry a permalink in so much as the collection of projects when each of those pages is published, the page title will be used as the text after projects they're right.

B

And okay and then for good yeah, good um part of good. You know that seems like that. That works well the situations in which to talk to me about the situations in which we need permalinks.

D

Not necessary, and if we are redirecting the previous urls to the current urls, then it is not necessary. But if we explicitly want that url, then we need to define a permalink in the front matter of the current set.

C

So I don't have much idea of the redirects, but like are there any uh possible instances where redirects fail or something like that.

D

Shouldn't fail, according to the plugin saying that it generates the redirect on the server side.

C

Like if it's converted into a tiny url or something and like it's made into uh another url and like when that's been referenced, to does redirect work even well over there.

B

Yeah so long as the tiny url resolves to a url, that's being redirected to your other one, it does because it can result.

C

In that yeah, so uh the uh the plugin we are using is uh server side or client side. Can you just uh confirm server.

D

C

Yeah yeah, okay, okay,.

B

Yeah, there is one um corner case here, and this has to do both with redirects and with permalinks, to the extent that um someone accidentally defines the same redirect, but for two different pages, so two one page um will receive redirects from a url and that very same url is listed as a redirect to a different page.

B

I don't know if, if gatsby will inform you of that, when you're building the site, overlapping, redirects or overlapping permalinks.

B

Okay; okay, just something to watch out for.

B

Nice of the the workshops.

A

Just gonna wrap up the meeting, but go ahead.

B

No, no, it's all right.

A

uh Are you sure.

B

Yep yeah yeah. Actually, if anyone else has stuff, we didn't.

B

So we so naruto got to go and faith. It looks like we've. You've found some things to dig into, so that's awesome and kishore is joined. It's a good key short. We we were saying bad things about you earlier, so you missed it.

A

All right uh kishore, if you haven't, found something to work upon um me, nicole or just anybody on this call and we'll find something for you to do faith I'll reply to you on slack, we'll create some issues for you for converting the release notes. Otherwise, that's it. Thank you for coming in everybody, see you next week.

D

A

Also josh, if, if you are on the call now he left- I guess okay. So if there is like a lot of issues- and there is some minor issue that a newbie can work on because I am- I am completely newbie and gets me- I can start working on it so yeah, that's it! If you need help, that's all.

C

Yeah, so I think uh once we create a workshop thing, then there will be issues for migrating workshops, so you.

A

Can look out for them.

C

A

Okay yeah: here we go.

C

C