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B
Okay,
thank
you
helen.
Please,
hello.
B
B
Thank
you
debbie.
B
B
Thank
you
and
we've
got
apologies
from
councillor
farley
councillor
thurkel
is
substituting
counselor
kendrick
and
councillor
foster.
B
Thank
you.
Are
there
any
appeals.
E
Underwrite
term
agenda
under
agenda
item
to
exclusion
of
the
preston
public
when
we
get
to
agenda
item
nyang
appendix
2
of
the
head
of
service
report,
there's
some
information
about
marketing
strategy
so
we'll
take
that
in
the
closed
session.
If
that's,
okay,.
B
Okay,
so
we
are,
we
are
live
streaming
at
the
moment.
Aren't
we
and
we'll
stop
at
that
point.
B
No
okay,
we're
sorry.
We've
done!
Apologies
already
like
the
wrong
order.
Okay!
So
if
we
go
on
to
minutes-
and
that
is
arising
from
the
last
meeting,
which
was
on
valentine's
day
friday,
the
14th
of
february,
every
meeting
that
I've
chaired
in
the
last
few
weeks,
I've
said
just
like
previous
meetings
feel
like
a
different
world
and
it's
a
different
lifetime.
Don't
they
okay?
So
what
we'll
do
we'll
take
matters
of
correction
and
masterising
at
the
same
time?
B
So
is
there
anything
anyone
wants
to
correct
or
speak
about
on
page
one?
B
Actually,
it's
page,
seven,
no
okay,
page
eight.
B
A
A
D
B
A
B
F
Just
to
comment
on
page
eight
and
nine
chairs,
okay
plus
yeah,
just
regarding
it,
references
work
on
on
adoption,
allowances
and
special
guardians
just
to
just
to
mention
that
there
were
two
cabinet
papers
that
went
through
in
calderdale
recently
and
as
a
result
of
the
work
that
has
been
undertaken
on
that
to
bring
our
our
rates
in
line
with
the
rest
of
the
region
and
bringing
them
up.
So
I
just
wanted
to
mention
that.
B
Yeah,
I
was
going
to
mention
this
when
we
get
onto
the
second
report.
Actually
because
there's
been
the
regional
piece
of
work,
plus
what
we've
all
been
doing
in
our
separate
authorities
hasn't
there.
Thank
you
anything
else
in
terms
of
that
is
amazing.
B
B
Okay,
are
we
okay
to
move
on,
so
we've
got
two
main
reports
today,
the
first
of
which
is
the
annual
report
of
one
adoption,
and
then
we've
got
the
we've
got
service
report
that
we
get
at
each
meeting
so
I'll
hand
over
to
sarah
to
do
an
introduction.
B
The
only
point
I
wanted
to
make
at
this
stage
was
that
sarah
has
put
information
about
kavit,
19
and
our
response
from
the
beginning
of
this
report,
because,
although
that
happened
late
in
the
year
with
the
report
being
april
to
march,
obviously
it's
had
a
very
profound
impact
on
how
the
services
operated.
B
So
it
would
have
seemed
very
strange
to
circulate
the
ship,
but
without
extensive
reference
to
kovid,
so
that's
wave
and
through
the
reports
and
his
reference
right
from
the
beginning
so
I'll
hand
over
to
sarah
to
make
further
introductory
comments,
and
then
we
can
open
it
up
for
comments
and
questions.
So
whenever
you're
ready,
sarah.
D
Thanks
councillor
venna,
yes,
the
first
report
is
the
annual
report
and
it's
also
regarding
the
statement
of
purpose
which
an
adoption
agency
has
to
have
to
operate
so
I'll
rest
in
sustainment
of
purpose
in
a
minute,
but
just
in
terms
of
the
annual
report,
I
thought
the
first
point
really,
as
councillor
venice
says,
was
about
the
impact
of
kovid
19,
and
I
just
thought
it'd
be
helpful,
just
to
highlight
for
you
about
how
we've
had
to
adapt
the
service
in
order
to
kind
of
respond-
and
I
guess
the
main
thing
to
say
is
that
we've
just
been
really
surprised
actually
at
the
kind
of
people
who
are
really
interested
in
adoption.
D
So
we've
had
lots
and
lots
of
applications
for
people
interested
in
wanting
to
adopt
at
the
time
when
we
thought
that
people
actually
would
probably
hunker
down
and
and
not
really
think
about
these
sorts
of
things.
We've
actually
been
very,
very
surprised.
So
we've
continued
to
get
a
lot
of
inquiries.
D
We
had
to
adapt
the
way
that
we
kind
of
share
that
information
with
the
public.
So
we've
now
gone
on
to
kind
of
online
information
events
which
have
proved
to
be
very
popular.
We
think
that
we're
going
to
keep
those
going
forward
and
we've
been
doing
sort
of
regular
facebook
question
and
answer
sort
of
sessions
to
be
able
to
answer
answer.
Questions
we've
had
to
adapt
all
the
preparation
training,
so
we've
not
been
able
to
do
any
of
our
preparation.
D
Training
we've
had
to
adapt
if
we
go
all
online
and
again
with
our
sort
of
support
groups
and
adoption
supports,
offer,
we've
not
been
able
to
do
any
of
the
group
work
that
we
normally
do
so
again.
We've
had
to
we
had
to
suspend
things
initially
and
then
re-adapt
and
the
staff
had
to
kind
of
reframe
and
re
purpose,
all
the
information,
so
I
guess
we've
kind
of
had
to
continue
business
as
usual.
D
The
staff,
I
have
to
say,
have
been
absolutely
amazing
and
they've
gone
over
and
above
really
what's
expected.
Many
of
them.
You
know,
as
you're
aware,
have
been
working
from
home
with
children
homeschooling,
but
have
continued
to
kind
of
work,
and
we've
been
putting
in
a
lot
of
support
to
make
sure
that
the
staff
are
well
supported.
D
One
of
the
big
issues
for
us
has
been
around
health
in
terms
of
the
gps,
because
of
course
we
need
gps
to
do.
The
health
assessments
of
adopters
and
they've
not
been
able
to
offer
appointments
for
quite
some
time.
We've
done
quite
a
lot
of
work
with
our
ccgs
in
the
region,
and
we
now
are
at
a
point
where
some
gps
are
doing
face-to-face
medicals.
D
Some
are
doing
a
kind
of
virtual
online
kind
of
assessments,
and
we've
had
some
flexibilities
from
the
government
about
being
able
to
move
people
from
stage
one
to
stage
two
in
the
process,
pending
the
outcome
of
their
medical
assessment.
D
So
we
haven't
got
to
a
point
yet
where
we've
had
to
approve
somebody
where
there's
been
an
issue
about
the
health
assessment,
so
we're
just
trying
to
stage
it
and
try
and
keep
people
going
through
the
process.
So
we
we
are
likely
to
have
a
kind
of
a
backlog.
Had
a
backlog
of
people
coming
through
so
in
september
and
october,
we're
going
to
reach
a
bit
of
a
bulge
in
terms
of
a
p
pinch
point
in
terms
of
needing
to
allocate
work
to
to
those
to
those
workers,
so
we're
keeping
an
eye
on
that.
D
The
adoption
panels,
adoption
panels
have
been
taking
place
on
skype
for
business
and
those
have
been
going.
Okay,
we've
had
a
few
little
bumps
in
the
road.
It's
very
different,
managing
a
panel
online
than
it
is
face
to
face,
which
has
meant
that
our
capacity
hasn't
been
as
much
as
we
would
normally
have
it.
D
D
So
that's
a
bit
of
background
information
about
how
we've
responded
to
sort
of
curvy
19.
just
moving
through
the
report.
If
I
just
highlight
a
couple
of
elements
for
you,
I
think.
Obviously
we
did
a
lot
of
work
last
year
around
the
center
for
excellence,
project
working
with
health
and
education,
and
we
were
delighted
to
get
some
additional
funding
from
the
ccgs
across
the
region
and
the
local
authorities
to
implement
the
multidisciplinary
team.
D
I'll
talk
about
that
a
little
bit
more.
When
I
come
to
the
second
report,
but
it
was
just
great
to
be
able
to
kind
of
get
that
support
from
the
local
local
region
just
to
be
able
to
implement
that
new
sort
of
style
of
work
in
that
much
more
integrated
approach
in
terms
of
performance,
and
we
can
see
that
the
number
of
adopters
that
we
have
approved
in
the
last
year
has
gone
up
again
very
slightly
from
last
year.
D
So,
if
you
remember,
when
we
went
into
the
agency,
we
only
approved
69
families
and
we've
now
taken
that
up
to
113,
which
is
which
is
really
good.
We
do
feel
that
that
target
is
going
to
be
stretched
again.
This
year
we
were
aiming
for
around
130
and
it
will
be
interesting
to
see
where
covid
how
that
impacts,
but
certainly
the
numbers
coming
through
are
very
encouraging.
D
So
it's
good
that
we've
had
a
you
know:
a
slight
increase
in
terms
of
the
children
we've
matched
169
children,
similar
to
last
year,
around
172
children.
Last
year
we
had
a
number
of
children
that
we
couldn't
actually
place
in
march
because
of
the
pandemic.
D
We
had
to
suspend
moving
children
on
to
adoption
for
a
very
short
period
of
time,
whilst
we
undertook
individual
risk
assessments
and
pleased
to
say
that
a
lot
of
those
children
now
have
actually
moved
on
to
their
their
adopted
families
in
terms
of
the
provision
of
provision
as
placements.
Of
course,
we
place
children
in
house,
but
we
also
purchase
placements
from
the
voluntary
agencies
across
the
country,
and
this
year
we
place
64
of
children
in
house
compared
to
last
year,
which
was
59.
D
So
it's
encouraging
that
we're
placing
more
children
locally
and
we've.
Just
recently,
I've
come
on
to
talk
about
it
in
my
next
report
entered
into
a
contract
with
the
voluntary
agencies
in
the
region
to
provide
30
placements
for
us
for
those
children
who,
if
you
like,
wait
longer
more
difficult
to
place
because
of
their
additional
needs,
so
we're
hoping
that
we'll
be
able
to
place
more
children
locally
in
terms
of
the
scorecard
data.
D
In
terms
of
the
a1
indicator
and
the
time
that
they're
placed
with
their
adoptive
family-
and
you
can
see
that
across
the
region
that
has
gone
up
and
additionally
for
adoption
scorecard
a2,
which
is
the
point
that
you
get
permission
to
place
a
child
in
the
time
that
you
match
that
child
both
of
those
indicators
have
gone
up,
which
means
that
children,
some
children
are
have
waited
longer
in
order
to
be
placed
for
adoption
and
that's
a
key
area
for
us
and
a
key
challenge,
and
I
think
there's
a
number
of
factors
for
that.
D
I
think
part
of
it
is
to
do
with
the
fact
that
nationally,
there's
been
a
smaller
pool
of
adopters,
and
I
guess,
whenever
you
get
a
smaller
pool
of
adopters,
they
always
generally
have
the
first
choice
about
the
types
of
children
that
they
want
to
adopt,
and
therefore
you
often
find
that
those
children
who
do
wait
longer
are
more
difficult
than
to
find
a
family.
For
I
think,
what's
encouraging
about
these
statistics.
D
So
that's
a
good
thing,
so
I
know
that
we
had
a
discussion
at
the
management
board
last
week
about
this
very
issue
about
actually
in
some
areas
you
know
the
old,
older
children
should
we
actually
be
realistically
looking
for
adoption
for
them
or
you
know,
should
we
actually
be
looking
at
other
plans,
and
I
think
the
conversation
that
we
had
was
actually
we
need
to
be
aspirational
for
our
children
in
terms
of
securing
permanence
for
them,
but
you
need
to
regularly
review
the
plans
for
those
children
and
make
sure
that
actually
the
plan
is
the
right
plan
julie.
A
A
Old
we've
managed
to
find
a
family
for
which
is
absolutely
fabulous,
and
everybody
in
the
board
agreed
it's
a
balance
between
being
ambitious
and
aspirational
for
our
children
and
giving
the
best
chance
of
a
permanent
family,
but
just
reviewing
that,
as
sarah
said
of
making
sure
those
permanency
plans
are
under
regular
review
and
at
the
point
where
we
can't
identify
an
adoptive
family.
There's,
a
legal
process
called
a
resend
that
you
know
that
we
do
that,
says:
okay,
we
can't
find
an
adoptive
family,
we'll
look
for
permanency
elsewhere.
A
Maybe
with
the
foster
family,
so
I
did
raise
it,
but
I
do
think
we're
doing
the
right
thing.
You
know
we're
looking
for
families
for,
for
you
know,
for
for
a
time,
limited
period
period
and
giving
our
children
the
best
chance.
So
I
did
raise
it,
but
I
was
assured,
as
chair
of
the
board,
that
you
know
our
is
sound
and
that
we
are
being
ambitious
and
aspirational,
as
sarah
said
for
our
children,
where
we
can.
D
Thank
you,
julie,
okay,
just
moving
on
a
little
bit
in
the
report.
D
I
just
wanted
to
highlight
the
disruptions,
because
I
think
when
it
when
an
adoptive
placement
breaks
down
and
the
child
returns
to
care,
that's
always
an
issue
for
that
individual
child
and
family,
and
we
never
want
that
to
happen,
and
we
have
had
seven
disruptions
in
the
last
year
across
the
five
authorities,
and
that
relates
to
six
placements,
because
two
of
the
children
were
in
a
sibling
group,
and
this
is
a
slight
increase
from
the
previous
year,
where
we
had
four
disruptions,
and
we've
done
some
analysis
of
that.
D
Just
to
see,
if
there's
some
learning
that
we
need
to
kind
of
take
to
think
about.
How
can
we
prevent
this
from
happening
before
and
what
was
interesting
was
that
the
majority
of
those
arrangements
were
for
children
where
we
placed
them
at
a
distance
from
leeds
or
from
west
yorkshire
as
a
whole.
In
two
of
the
cases
you
know
the
risks.
We
knew
that
the
placements,
if
you
like,
were
a
bit
risky
initially.
D
So
again
we
had
a
nine-year-old
where
we
were
looking
at
placing
that
child
and
we
knew
that
there
would
be
a
need
for
therapeutic
support,
and
I
guess
the
issue
about
access
to
local
services
is
something
that
we
need
to
be
really
clear
about
when
we're
placing
children
at
a
distance.
So
what
kind
of
support
can
we
wrap
around
that
father
and
family?
D
So
I'm
really
pleased
that
we've
now
got
this
contract
with
our
local
voluntary
agencies,
the
aim
of
which
is
to
try
and
find
those
families
for
those
children
who
are
older
so
that
we
can
place
them
more
locally
and
we
can
wrap
around
more
local
support
so
that
that's
the
aim
of
arts,
but
it's
just
an
important
thing
for
us
to
keep
an
eye
on,
and
I
know
our
adoption
panels.
Look
at
that
very
carefully.
D
I
think,
probably
those
are
the
main
sort
of
highlights
for
me
from
the
annual
report
and
I'm
sure
that
you've
got
questions.
I'm
more
than
happy
to
answer
any
questions
on
the
annual
report
itself.
Council
event.
B
B
Okay,
so
does
anyone
have
any
questions
or
comments.
B
I'll
make
I'll
bring
up
a
couple
of
points
if
no
one
else
has
anything
at
the
moment.
So
I
was
interested
sarah.
What
you
said
about
the
the
increasing
number
of
inquiries
about
adoption
and
that
not
necessarily
being
what
we
expected.
B
I
don't
know
if
this
is
the
same
in
bradford
and
calderdale,
but
during
the
pandemic
and
lockdown,
we
also
had
a
huge
huge
increase
in
interest
in
fostering
so
between,
like
april
18
and
mar
8
april
19
and
march
20..
We
had
a
net
increase.
I
think,
of
eight
foster
carers
over
that
year,
because
I
think
we'd
registered
40
new
foster
carers,
but
d
registered
32,
who
were
retiring
or
doing
staying,
puts,
but
then
just
in
a
two-month
period
that
I
think
was
like
march
to
may.
B
We
had
a
net
increase
of
six
and
then
in
one
month
which
thing
was,
may
we
have
97
people
register
interest
on
our
website
for
fostering,
which
is
just
incredible,
and
I
don't
know
if
it's
because
some
I
come
where
I
was,
but
someone
told
me,
there's
a
huge
increase
in
people
who
are
applying
to
be
nurses
at
the
moment.
B
So
I
don't
know
if
it's
that
people
during
this
period
of
crisis
have
been
reevaluating
their
lives,
I
mean
some
people
may
have
been
forced
to
buy
unemployment,
but
I
I
have
people
that
have
take.
I
have
hugely
thought
you
know
thoughts
about
what
they
want
to
do
next
and
a
lot
of
people
have
decided
fostering
or
adoption
is
a
route
they
want
to
pursue,
but
we've
had
a
huge
increase
in
fostering
inquiries
as
well,
which
is
amazing
because
again
we
may
have
anticipated
the
opposite,
but
actually
it
feels
really
positive
yeah.
B
The
only
other
thing
I
don't
if
anyone
wants
to
comment
on
that
or
anything
else.
Otherwise,
I'll
move
on
to
my
next
point,
which
isn't
related.
B
Okay,
the
other
area
I
was
wondering,
if
maybe
you
could
comment
on
sarah
that's
in
the
report
is
because
this
is
in
both
reports.
B
The
ongoing
challenge
around
not
having
enough
fame
adopters,
and
particularly,
I
know
this
is
an
issue
in
fostering
as
well,
particularly
black
african
and
black
caribbean
families
and
obviously
you've
referenced
that
being
brought
into
focus
by
black
lives
matter
as
well.
C
D
Yes,
yeah,
I
think
that's
a
really
good
point,
an
important
point,
councillor
venna,
because
we've
traditionally
always
had
difficulties
around
that
black
african
black,
caribbean
community
and
we've
been
working
with
an
organization
in
the
last.
The
last
nine
months
called
my
foster
family,
which
has
now
adapted
itself
to
become
my
adoption
family.
It's
a
small
organization
from
bradford.
D
That's
predominantly
worked
with
the
muslim
community
and
some
of
the
work
I've
been
doing
on
the
national
recruitment
steering
group
for
adoption
is
we
engaged
in
an
organization
called
mmc
who
have
been
doing
some
particular
kind
of
research
and
insights
into
the
black
african
and
black
caribbean
communities,
because
when
you
look
at
the
children
that
are
waiting
across
west
york,
but
also
nationally,
there's
a
disproportionate
number
of
children
who
are
either
black
african
black,
caribbean,
but
also
mixed
heritage,
with
some
elements
of
black,
caribbean
or
black
african
heritage
and
those
communities
have
there's
been
quite
a
lot
of
barriers
in
terms
of
them
coming
forward
to
potentially
want
to
adopt
issues
around
fear
of
authority
given
kind
of
issues
around
the
windrush
about
grenfell,
about
cover
impacts
of
kobe
19
and
actually
the
black
lives.
D
So
my
adoption
family
has
been
looking
to
look
at
a
number
of
community
organizations
across
west
yorkshire
that
we
can
link
into
and
we've
got
a
meeting
planned
with
them
beginning
of
september,
we're
inviting
them
to
a
webinar
to
look
at
what
are
some
of
the
barriers
within
the
local
communities.
And
how
can
we
then
start
to
do
some
outreach
work
and
to
actually
get
people
more
interested
in
not
just
adoption
but
also
fosterings?
I
know
that's
a
big
issue
and
I
think
we
felt
that
engaging
the
third
sector
organization
to
do
that.
D
Work
might
actually,
if
you
like,
help
broker
some
of
those
community
relationships,
and
I
know
that
you
know.
Sometimes
people
are
very
worried
about
social
workers
coming
in
and
doing
assessments
so
that
we
can
try
and
work
with
the
community
to
think
about
how
we
how
we
increase,
if
you
like
the
inquiries
that
are
coming
from
those
particular
groups
and,
interestingly,
we
have
a
lot
of
interest
from
southeast
asian
communities
in
terms
of
adoption,
and
yet
we
don't
have
as
many
of
those
children
to
place
for
adoption.
D
So,
there's
more
of
an
educative,
kind
of
information
giving
and
sharing
approach
with
those
communities
about
the
sorts
of
children
that
we
would
need
those
communities
to
consider.
You
know
dual
heritage:
children,
children
who
might
not
necessarily
be
from
a
muslim
background,
but
might
not
necessarily
have
any
religion
and
how
would
people
feel
about
parenting?
Those
children,
so
we've
got
different
approaches
that
we
need
to
take
with
different
elements
of
the
different
communities.
D
But
it's
it's
an
area
that
we're
really
keen
to
drive
forward
this
next
year.
So
we're
hoping
that
this
new
approach
will
will
really
help
us
to
deliver
that
so
I'll
be
interested
to
hear
if
any
counselors
have
got
particular
ideas
or
suggestions
about
how
we
might
be
able
to
take
that
forward
in
your
particular
area
and
whether
there's
particular
links
that
we
could
make
with
your
colleagues.
That
would
be
great.
C
Hi,
I
actually
have
this
report
at
our
last
corporate
parenting
panel
and
I
actually
passed
on
to
michelle
some
organizations.
I
thought
some
community
organizations
that
I
thought
you
might
be
able
to
get
in
touch
with,
but
from
the
black
and
african
communities
and.
C
B
No
okay:
we've
got
the
appendices
to
the
report
as
well
like
the
equality
impact
assessment
talks
about
this
in
a
bit
more
depth
and
also
the
statement
of
purpose
that
we
need
to
include.
B
D
Yeah
the
statement
of
purpose
council,
even
there's
very
minor
amendments
being
made
this
year
and
there's
just
a
couple
of
staffing
names
that
have
changed
in
terms
of
the
team
managers
but,
generally
speaking,
it's
pretty
much
the
same
as
last
year
and
it's
an
annual
if
you
like.
We
just
need
to
update
it
and
make
sure
that
you're
happy
with
it
on
an
annual
basis.
B
D
No,
I
don't
think
so.
I
think
that
the
report
from
young
people
and
adopters
is
really
helpful
just
to
get
their
comments
about.
You
know
their
input
in
terms
of
why
we're
developing
elements
of
the
service
and
their
feedback.
I
think
that's
really
helpful
to
get
it's
always
great
to
hear
from
people.
Isn't
it
directly,
so
some
really
encouraging
points.
I
think
people
have
raised
in
that.
B
Yeah,
okay,
thank
you,
okay.
So
the
next
report
is
the
head
of
service
report.
Before
sarah
introduces
this.
The
only
thing
I
want
to
refer
to
is
I
when,
when,
when
we
had,
when
I
had
my
chairs
briefing,
I
asked
sarah
to
put
some
information
into
port
that
wasn't
there
before
about
the
corona
virus.
B
Amendment
the
the
flexibilities
that
were
introduced,
and
the
reason
I
wanted
this
to
be
in
is
because
obviously
they've
been
massively
massively
contentious
with
everyone
from
you
know
the
children's
commissioner
to
opposition
and
and
conservative
mps
and
children's
charities
campaigning
and
lobbying
against
the
existence
of
the
regulations.
B
So
I
wanted
us
to
have,
as
a
committee
have
have
quite
a
good
overview
of
how
they
were
being
used
across
west
yorkshire
and
across
well
across
one
adoption
within
leeds
I've
taken
quite
I've.
Had
I've
had
quite
an
overview
of
this
really
because
for
a
couple
of
reasons
really
one
is
that
we're,
obviously
a
really
big
authority,
and
I
felt
it
was
important
that
we
kept
a
record
of
how
we
were
using
them.
In
case.
B
We're
asked,
not
least
because
the
children's
minister
has
claimed
to
have
consulted
with
local
authorities
prior
to
the
introduction
of
the
flexibilities,
which
I
don't
think
actually
happened,
but
also
as
you'll
be
aware
of
our
council
leader.
B
Judith
blake
is
the
is
the
chair
of
the
children,
young
people's
board
for
the
local
government
association
and
so
obviously
is
involved
in
a
national
role
around
children
and
young
people.
And
I
wanted
to
to
be
able
to
give
her
really
clear
information
about
what
was
happening
in
leeds.
That
can
help
inform
her
national
role.
So
I've
taken
quite
an
interest
in
anyway
in
the
in
the
flexibilities
and
how
they
are
aren't
being
used.
But-
and
I
thought
it
was
really
important-
that
we
did
the
zones
committee.
B
So
there
is
reference
to
the
decisions
that
are
being
made
outside
panel
and
why,
in
september,
when
they've
been
in
place
for
six
months,
I'm
going
to
ask
within
leads
for
report
on
when
they've
been
used
in
what
circumstances
they've
been
used
within
within
our
authority.
Although
I'm
also
getting
informed
each
time
they're
used
anyway
yeah.
But
I
thought
it
was
important.
We
had
an
overview
so
sarah
I'll
hand
over
to
you
to
introduce
the
thoughts.
D
Yes,
yes,
we,
we
are
keeping
a
log
counselor
veneer
of
all
the
times
that
we
do
use
the
flexibilities
around
adoption
and
to
be
fair,
we
haven't
had
to
use
some
huge
amount,
but
I
think,
because
of
the
impact
on
the
adoption
panels,
with
regards
to
the
capacity
available,
we
were
finding
that
we're
not
able
to
book
a
panel
date
until
october.
D
D
And
those
are
the
categories
that
we
talk
about
in
on
page
81,
the
approval
of
experienced
adopters
and
that's
because
those
adopters
will
have
already
previously
been
approved
by
an
adoption
panel
or
recommended
by
an
adoption
panel
and
the
approval
and
match
of
foster
care
adoptions.
Because
again,
those
foster
carers
will
have
already
been
through
some
approval
process.
D
But
those
are
to
do
with
newborn
babies
very
often
when
the
local
authority
decides
that,
actually
they
need
to
consider
a
fostering
for
adoption
placement
and
therefore
those
adopters
can
be
temporarily
approved
as
cost
carers.
So
it's
not
the
decision
to
place
the
child,
it's
the
approval
of
those
adopters,
so
we've
only
had
to.
I
think
I
think
every
authority
has
done
at
least
one
in
terms
of
taking
it
out
of
panels.
D
So
I
know
that
I
think
irfan
makes
the
decision
in
bradford
carroll
rob
murray's
made
a
decision
in
colddale,
council
wilkinson
and
we've
had
a
few
decisions
in
leeds
and
in
each
local
authority
it
has
to
be
at
least
the
head
of
service
or
above
who
makes
the
decision
to
agree
that
an
item
can
come
out
of
panel
and,
as
I
say,
we've
only
done
it
on
a
very
small,
less
than
10.
D
Overall,
in
terms
of
the
five
local
authorities,
we've
had
to
use
the
quarassy
reduction
on
two
panels,
because
somebody
rang
in
sick
at
the
last
minute
and
rather
than
delay
all
of
the
items
we
decided
to
go
ahead
and
the
other
flexibility
we're
using
is
within
the
adopter
process
of
their
assessment,
which
is
to
do
with
the
health
medicals,
which
is
which
I
talked
about
earlier,
which
is
because
the
gp's
assessments
aren't
taking
place.
So
it
allows
you
to
move
from
stage
one
to
stage
two
in
the
assessment
process.
D
Pending
the
outcome
of
the
medical,
we
can't
approve
people
without
the
medical.
It
just
allows
us
to
move
people
through
a
bit
quicker
than
we
needed
to
we've.
Only
used
that
on
four
occasions,
so
we
are
keeping
a
log
of
log
of
it,
and
I
know
that
each
local
authority
takes
it
very
seriously
and
they
are
really
about
when
we
absolutely
feel
it
would
prevent
child
from
moving
on
in
terms
of
the
delay
to
the
child,
and
it
wouldn't
be
in
their
best
interest
to
delay
things.
D
So
I
think
very
helpfully
you
did
mention
the
adoption
allowances
and
special
guardianship
allowances
earlier.
So
in
the
last
three
months
we
have
taken
some
of
that
forward
and
we
had
a
really
good
discussion
at
the
management
board
about
that.
As
councillor
wilkinson
said,
calderdale
have
now
taken
that,
through
their
cabinets,
all
of
the
other
authorities
are
in
the
process
of
doing
that.
I
think
some
are
booked
on
in
august.
D
One
piece
of
work
that
isn't
completed
around
that
which
was
delayed
due
to
covid,
was
the
work
around
the
financial
assessment
tool,
which
is
a
new
means.
Testing
document
and
the
the
oldest
one
we're
using
at
the
moment,
is
around
from
2005.
D
there's
been
a
huge
amount
of
work
going
on,
and
we
met
last
week
to
we're
starting
to
test
that
now
across
the
five
authorities
and
in
september,
we'll
be
clear
about
whether
there's
any
implications
from
that
testing.
If
you
like
any
resources,
shooting
issues
about
how
do
you
carry
out
one
assessment
compared
to
the
one
that
you're
already
undertaking?
Are
there
any
implications
that
we
need
to
consider?
D
It's
great
that
we've
been
able
to
get
one
of
our
managers,
rhian
bain
and
we've
released
her
half
a
week
to
do
some
of
that
coordination
work
around
special
guardianship
that
I
know
we've
talked
about
before
at
the
joint
committee
and
really
to
start
to
bring
together
kind
of
best
practice,
starting
to
develop
kind
of
support,
plans,
assessment
frameworks
around
trying
to
develop
and
improve
the
services
to
special
guardians
in
the
region,
and
so
there's
work
on
going
around
that.
D
I
think
the
government
released
some
funding
from
the
adoption
support
fund
called
david
19
funds
and
we
drew
down
over
300,
and
some
of
that
was
for
special
guardians
as
well
as
for
adopters
and
rhea
was
able
to
commission
services
in
in
consultation
with
the
five
local
authority,
kinship
care
teams
to
say
what
are
the
sort
of
services
that
special
guardians
are
asking
for,
and
we
were
able
to
do
some
work
around
transparent
violence.
D
Some
of
the
parenting
groups,
grandparents,
plus
around
the
peer
mentoring.
We've
been
able
to
extend
the
support
for
the
special
guardians
across
the
region
and
the
idea
is
to
see
if
there's
more
funds,
that
we
can
draw
down
from
the
adoption
support
fund
to
help
special
guardians
in
the
region,
sort
of
therapeutically
parent,
the
children
and
to
meet
the
needs
of
some
of
those
special
guardians
that
we
know
are
struggling.
So
I'm
really
pleased
that
ryan's
going
to
be
taking
some
of
that
work
forward.
It's
quite
quite
exciting.
D
D
It's
not
particularly
diverse
range
of
staff
within
our
our
agency,
so
we
are
looking
as
to
how
we
can
improve
kind
of
the
recruitment
and
retention
of
bme
staff,
and
so
we're
just
having
early
discussions
around
some
of
that,
and
I
think
our
equality
impact
assessment
that
we're
reviewing
will
start
to
address
some
of
the
issues
for
us
as
a
service,
but
also
as
a
workforce.
D
Is
there
anything
else?
I
don't
think
there's
anything
else.
I've
got
unless
people
have
got
any
questions.
B
A
A
A
lot
a
lot
of
the
concerns
have
been
around
the
visiting,
particularly
to
looked
after
children
and
the
ability
to
do
that
remotely
and
not
see
them
face
to
face
and
real
concerns
about
a
kind
of
slip,
backing
standards
to
how
it
used
to
be-
and
I
think
calderdale,
like
a
lot
of
other
councils-
put
systems
in
place
immediately,
overlaying
our
normal
systems
to
make
sure
we
had
eyes
on
every
child
right.
You
know
regularly
between
us
the
schools,
whoever
was
in
that
key
working
network
on
a
weekly
basis.
A
So
I
think
I
think
think
councils
have
stepped
up
to
covid
in
a
way.
You
know
that
you
know
it's
very,
very
caring,
working
really
closely
with
schools
in
a
way
that
you
know,
you
know
that
we
haven't,
we
haven't
been
able
to.
You
know
in
you
know
in
uncovered
times,
and
I
think
a
lot
of
the
flexibilities
that
sarah
has
described
you
know
making
an
early
permanence
placement
plan
would
would
be
before
the
courts.
A
A
So
so
so
I
think
the
whole
issue
of
the
freedoms
and
the
flexibilities
need
to
be
looked
at
in
the
round,
because
I
think
some
are
probably
more
concerning
than
others,
and
it
just
depends
on
whether
that
local
authority
is
using
them
or
not,
and
you'll
probably
found
out
in
leeds
that
the
systems
and
the
processes
are
tight
and
the
oversight
is
good.
And
you
know.
A
Yes,
we
can
see
children
remotely
and
families
and
it
has
assisted,
particularly
in
the
early
days
of
lockdown,
but
I
would
say
it's
business
as
usual
and
I
think,
probably
I'm
probably
not
alone
in
speaking
for
calderdale,
in
that
social
workers
are
out
seeing
families
keeping
eyes
on
children,
making
sure
they're
safe.
But
we've
got
to
make
sure,
as
sarah
said,
with
virtual
panels
and
some
of
the
other
things
around
and
speeding
up
the
medical
process
that
we
don't
delay
for
children
either.
A
So
you
know
I
just
wanted
to
assure
you
from
a
practice
point
of
view.
I
don't
think
standards
are
slipping
and
I
do
think
we
have
got
eyes
on
children
and
I
do
think
some
of
the
flexibilities
that
sarah's
described
for
adoption
are
helpful
for
now,
because
we
are
trying
to
operate
in
a
in
a
world
where
we
wouldn't
normally
we'd,
be
doing
everything
face
to
face,
including
recruitment.
So
you
know
sir,
and
the
team
are
doing
a
really
good
job.
A
I
think-
and
I
was
pleased
just
to
see
the
emphasis
in
the
report
on
on
covid,
because
it's
only
it's
only
in
the
last
three
months
but
to
hear
in
detail
from
sarah
how
the
team
are
really
responding
to
operating
in
in
that
completely
changed
environment
for
families.
So
so
I
think
she's
doing
you
know
she
and
the
team
are
doing
a
very
good
job.
B
Yeah
absolutely
thank
you.
Yeah
I'd
agree
with
you
about
the
flexibilities
and
I
think
one
of
the
concerns
that
children's
commissioner
in
particular
has
raised
is
that
they're
unnecessary
in
that
our
systems
and
our
staffing
have
held
up
through
through
this
crisis.
B
I
think
outside
of
one
adoption,
we've
used
them
twice
in
very,
very
specific
circumstances.
Things
like
come,
don't
don't
minute
and
do
some
of
this,
but
I
think
one
we
had
a
foster
placement
disrupted
because
the
foster
carer
went
into
hospital
with
covert
19
and
we
couldn't
find
a
placement
for
the
child
and
we
placed
with
a
couple
who
were
about
to
go
to
panel
the
next
month,
but
hadn't
yet
and
I
think
the
other
circus.
B
That's
the
camera
with
the
detail
was
really
similar,
not
the
covered
bit,
but
just
some
kind
of
like
where
we
didn't
really
have
another
option.
It
would
have
been
like
finding
a
placement
outside
of
leeds.
You
know
in
the
private
sector,
so
yeah,
I
think
it.
I
think
our
systems
held
up
really
well
and
similarly,
we've
in
many
ways
where
other
executive
board
members
have
had
their
department
lena
the
device
were
working
in
a
completely
different
way.
B
In
many
ways
it
has
been
business
as
usual
in
children's
services,
our
children's
homes
have
carried
on
as
normal
we've
had
our
children's
centers
open
right.
The
way
through
children's
social
work
has
been
carrying
on
seeing
families
face
to
face
where
they
need
to.
So
I
think
that's
one
of
the
biggest
arguments
against
the
regulations.
Isn't
it
that
they're
not
actually
necessary,
because
all
our
systems
have
held
up
throughout.
B
Does
anyone
else
have
any
any
questions
or
comments?
Yes,
council
wilkinson.
F
Yeah,
I
think,
just
just
to
agree
with
you
really
councillor
venue.
I
think
when
those
regulations
came
in,
I
think
a
lot
of
people
were
quite
worried
about
them
and
I
did
receive
one
or
two
comments
from
other
councillors
concerned
about
what
we
may
or
may
not
end
up
doing
in
calderdale
and
as
as
julie's
alluded
to.
I
kind
of
did
ask
for
assurances
at
the
time
that
we
wouldn't
be
looking
to
be
relaxing
anything
and
I
think,
as
julie's
outlined.
I
think
that
is,
you
know.
F
We've
made
sure
we've
been
having,
if
you
probably
had
more
contacts
with
children
during
covered,
if
anything
rather
than
less
and
we've
certainly
not
been
looking
to
to
relax
things.