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A
Right
good
morning,
everybody
welcome
to
the
climate
emergency
advisory
committee
consultative
meeting
of
the
1st
of
november,
I'm
council,
neil
walshaw,
I'm
your
host
and
chair
and
we're
now
live
on
youtube,
as
always
7.8
billion
potential
viewers.
So
what
I
will
do,
colleagues
is
I'll,
go
through
my
usual
opening
remarks
and
then
we'll
do
some
introductions.
A
A
It's
not
been
held
as
a
public
meet
in
accordance
with
the
local
government
act.
1972
as
such
is
a
remote
consultative
meeting
of
the
climate
emergency
advisory
committee.
The
consultative
status
of
today's
meeting
means
that
some
of
the
usual
formalities
will
not
take
place
at
the
start
of
the
meeting.
This
also
means
that
the
committee
will
not
be
in
a
position
to
take
any
formal
decisions
and,
when
necessary,
any
proposed
actions
that
do
require
formal
ratification
will
be
referred
to
the
next
formal
public
meeting
of
the
committee
for
approval.
A
Uh-Huh
on
a
roll
here
castle,
flint.
B
Good
morning,
everybody
jonathan
with
from
kirksville
ward.
Thank
you
very
much.
Coachella
morning,
chair
and
morning,
everyone
else.
D
B
C
A
Oh,
I'm
sure
council
ray
will
be
joining
his
asap,
so
officers
present
polly.
C
C
A
A
Thanks
mark
has
anyone
else
joined
in
the
last
couple
of
minutes.
Now
I
can
see
the
roads
gallery
again.
No
okey-dokey.
Let
me
go
back
to
my
documents.
I
never
remember
where
I'm
up
to
right.
So
harriet
item
number
and
apologies.
A
My
new
laptop
is
popping
up
windows
every
second
about
everything,
that's
good,
so
looking
through
those
are
there
any
matters
arising
from
from
colleagues,
I'm
just
taking
the
notes
as
read
by
everybody,
I'm
just
whizzing
through
for
a
second
time
myself
right.
If
I
go
back
to
my
gallery
review,
is
any
matters
arising
from
the
minute
nope
in
that
council.
Carlo
sorry,.
C
Jet
quick,
quick
point
on
page
six,
it
says
quite
grandly
that
I'm
currently
working
on
a
comprehensive
communications
plan
for
relaxed
mowing.
I
think
it
would
be
better
note.
I
won't
be
writing
it
myself,
because
there
are
many
more
experience
than
me
at
doing
it.
I
think
it'd
be
better,
noting
that
the
teams
within
parks
and
within
the
connecting
leads
team
who
have
joined
to
put
forward
a
communications
plan
on
on
the
request
of
myself
and
councillor
hayden
on
that
matter.
A
Okay,
so
oh
everyone
with
the
minutes
as
a
true
record
yep,
you
know
right.
In
that
case
we
gonna
move
on
to
open
forum,
but
just
in
a
moment,
observer
members
will
have
noticed
that
cop
26
started
yesterday,
and
this
is
the
un
global
summit
regarding
climate
change
and
there's.
Obviously
a
lot
going
on
urge
members,
and
indeed
anyone
watching
to
look
at
the
cop26
website,
keep
an
eye
out
for
events
that
you
can
join
in
participating.
You
can
watch.
A
It
is
probably
without
no
hyperbole
the
most
important
meaning
of
human
beings,
since
probably
the
altar
in
world
war.
Two,
it
is
that
important
and
I
think
the
eyes
of
the
world
are
on
boris
johnson,
that's
more
problematic,
but
let's
see
how
it
goes.
I'm
going
to
remain
glass,
half
full
optimistic
at
this
stage,
but
with
those
people
to
keep
an
eye
on
what's
going
on,
and
there
is
a
demo
on
the
6th
in
millennium
square
and
I
would
urge
everyone
to
attend
and
bring
a
witty
and
interesting
placard
or
banner.
A
My
screen
is
locked
up
awesome
right
here
we
go
number
one,
so
we're
in
your
hands
now
harrison
number
one
is
food.
Wise
leads
number
two
is
around
the
environmental
action
project
and
number
three
is
gainer
edwards
from
secret
climate
action,
gala
can't
attend
in
person,
and
it
is
a
really
important
issue.
G
Okay,
will
you
let
me
know
if
it's
not
playing.
H
Everyone-
and
thank
you
for
your
time
today-
my
name
is
emma
andrews
and
I'm
from
food.
Wise
leads
we're
a
network
focused
on
building
a
better
food
system
for
our
city,
and
we've
submitted
this
video
to
the
seax
open
forum
to
ask
for
funding
to
pilot
a
citywide
community
composting
scheme
to
help
reduce
the
city's
household
food
waste
and
ultimately
contribute
towards
the
commitment
leaders
made
to
be
carbon
neutral
by
2030..
So
why
food
waste?
Many
of
you
may
have
seen
this
quote
before
that.
H
If
food
loss
and
waste
were
a
country,
it
would
be
the
third
biggest
source
of
greenhouse
gas
emissions
behind
china
in
the
us.
This
is
why
one
of
the
sustainable
development
targets
set
by
the
un
is
to
half
per
capita
global
food
waste
by
2030..
In
this
year's
unep
food
waste
index
report,
it
was
stated
that
61
of
global
food
waste
occurred
at
the
household
level
in
2019..
H
It
was
also
estimated
that
in
the
uk,
over
5
million
tons
of
household
food
is
wasted
per
year.
When
we
look
to
leeds
it's
estimated
that
the
average
household
weighs
200
kilos
of
food
per
year.
When
we
consider
that
last
figure
and
the
fact
that
40
of
the
average
household
bin
contents
are
suitable
for
composting,
you
can
begin
to
see
why
we're
here
today
talking
about
composting
as
a
solution
that
can
help
reduce
local
levels
of
household
food
waste
across
leeds.
H
We
want
to
pilot
city-wide
community
composting
through
a
one-year
project
with
a
budget
of
10
884
pounds.
This
will
establish
two
community
composting
sites
across
leeds
and
there
will
be
a
wide
range
of
benefits.
Not
only
will
be
reducing
food
waste
from
going
to
the
incinerator,
but
we
will
be
providing
local
education
opportunities
about
recycling
composting
and
soil
care.
H
There
will
be
the
option
to
compost
for
those
without
their
own,
outside
space
will
bring
communities
together
to
share
knowledge
and
responsibility,
as
they
get
more
actively
involved
in
communal
spaces,
and
we
will
also
help
to
develop
local
circular
economies
as
we
enable
recycling
of
food
waste
locally
keeping
valuable
nutrients
within
communities
and
providing
that
much
needed.
Compost
to
community
growing
projects,
schools
and
others
growing
food
locally.
H
The
pilot
would
include
one
central
coordinator
to
collaborate
with
communities
address
any
concerns,
including
those
related
to
health
and
safety,
and
develop
central
resources
and
processes
to
support
local
volunteer
groups.
Another
key
part
of
this
pilot
would
be
partnership
working
with
existing
organizations,
for
example,
we've
partnered
with
incredible,
edible
gothic,
who
are
already
in
position
as
the
first
site
for
this
pilot.
We
will
now
hear
from
their
chair
dan
robinson.
C
A
G
G
Opportunities
but
really
a
community
composting
project
would
be
hugely
beneficial
to
garfield
as
part
of
a
city-wide
approach.
For
for
this
really
important
topic
to
reduce
food
waste.
H
Thank
you
to
dan
from
incredible,
edible,
garth
citywide
community
composting
is
a
proven
solution.
Some
of
you
may
know
the
brighton
hove
food
partnership
as
leaders
in
sustainable
food
practices.
They
were
the
first
ever
recipients
of
the
gold
sustainable
food
places
award.
The
partnership
initiated
a
citywide
approach
to
community
composting
10
years
ago,
and
today
we
know
the
partnership
supports
over
40
schemes
within
local
communities
and
have
over
1
300
households
taking
part,
in
fact,
in
2019
their
program
composted
the
equivalent
volume
of
nine
double
decker
buses
in
food
waste.
H
That's
115
tons
of
wasted
food
diverted
away
from
the
incinerator.
Local
communities
are
supported
by
a
central
coordinator
from
the
partnership
and
per
scheme.
There's
a
group
of
volunteers
who
are
properly
trained
to
look
after
their
site.
Our
pilot
is
based
on
this
tried
and
tested
model
from
the
brighton
ho
food
partnership.
So
to
round
up
today's
presentation,
why
now
on?
Why
leads?
We
have
the
model
ready
to
address
this
existing
problem
locally?
We
are
aware
of
the
government's
commitment
to
roll
out
separate
household
food
waste
collection
across
the
country
by
2023.
H
However,
following
discussions
with
others,
including
representatives
from
the
organization
sustain,
we
understand
that
this
would
take
significant
time
to
implement,
while
the
need
for
reducing
household
food
waste
exists
already.
Equally.
From
those
conversations,
we
know
that
the
long-term
emissions
of
communal
composting
will
be
better
than
the
processes
involved
in
anaerobic
digestion.
H
And
importantly,
this
solution
can
provide
local
community
and
biodiversity
to
benefits,
as
well
as
overall
carbon
and
cost
benefits
by
reducing
the
cost
of
incinerating
food
waste.
Leeds
has
the
willingness.
We
know
that
93
of
last
year's
big
leads
climate
conversation.
Respondents
confirmed
that
they
were
willing
to
take
one
or
more
actions
to
reduce
their
own
impact
and
that
nearly
40
percent
confirmed
that
they
were
willing
to
compost,
food
waste
and
kitchen
scraps.
H
We
ourselves
have
the
support
of
the
wider
food-wise
network.
Feed
leads,
zero-waste
leads
incredible,
edible,
garfield
and
local
councillor.
Emma
flint
leeds
has
the
infrastructure,
including
a
strong
voluntary
sector
and
a
growing
network
of
climate
action
hubs
to
support
this
pilot
to
achieve
the
sustainable
food
places
silver
award
for
leeds
reducing
food
waste
is
key
and
to
achieve
leeds's
commitment
to
be
carbon
neutral
by
2030.
This
citywide
initiative
is
essential.
H
We
have
a
solution
to
help
reduce
food
waste
in
leeds
now
we
can
reduce
levels
of
waste
going
to
the
incinerator,
reduce
carbon
and
help
community
well-being.
We've
done
the
research
we
have
the
model
and
now
we're
asking
for
funding
to
complete
this
pilot
effectively
and
to
ensure
sustainable
impact
for
the
city
of
leeds.
Thank
you
for
listening,
and
if
you
have
any
questions,
please
don't
hesitate
to
get
in
touch.
We
look
forward
to
hearing
from
you.
A
Excellent
excellent
video
excellent
project.
In
very
brief,
I've
got
a
couple
of
folks
with
their
hands
up
my
members.
These
are
like
really
brief
contributions,
because
I
think
this
is
something
we
need
to
to
pick
up
and
support.
It's
just
how
we
do
that
is
is
is
key,
so
it
was
cancer
anderson,
then
councilor
dobson,
you
come.
C
Just
a
very
brief,
thank
you
chair
for
an
excellent,
concise
presentation
which,
which
summed
up
everything
we
need
to
know
and
everywhere
we
need
to
be
in
a
few
short
slides,
really
delighted
if
this
can
be
piloted
in
our
area,
thanks
dan
from
incredible,
edible
who's
done
a
great
deal
of
work.
That
is
a
location
that
was
basically
just
going
to
waste
housing
land.
A
Yeah
thanks
for
that
yeah,
I
think
we
we
can.
I
know
I
know
council
club's
been
involved
as
well.
I
think
we
can
pull
together
that
funding
in
terms
of
how
best
to
do
that,
I'm
now
seeing
a
sea
of
council's
hands
wanting
to
come
up.
This
is
the
one
of
the
dilemmas
with
open
forum
folks,
if
we
turn
this
into
a
major
discussion
item
for
each
open
forum,
we're
not
going
to
make
much
progress.
So
if
the
contributions
could
be
really
briefly
accountable,
then
councillor
illinois.
B
Thank
you
chair.
It
was
a
brief
question.
Actually
I
noticed
that
11
000
pounds
of
funding
was
going
to
be
required
for
the
two
sites
in
an
ideal
world.
How
many
sites
would
the
city
require,
and
whatever
number
that
is,
would
that
presumably
then
mean
that
we
would
multiply
whatever?
That
number
was
by
the
eleven
thousand.
A
Well,
those
are
questions
we
can.
We
can
ask
the
the
presenter
and
then
her
folks
going
forward.
I
think
this
needs
to
be
an
item
for
the
food
and
bi
diversity
working
group
which
harry's
taking
the
note
of,
as
I
speak,
talked
to
council
collins
about
that.
But
in
the
meantime,
I'll
talk
to
the
the
group
myself
as
chair
and
no
doubt
counselors
as
flint
and
dobson
about
what
specifically
we
we
need
to
go
forward
with
this.
I
think
that'd
be
great.
A
It's
not
a
huge
amount
of
funding,
but
I
think
if
we
particularly
if
it's
multiple
sites,
if
we
could,
if
perhaps
multiple
community
committees
could
contribute
as
well,
I
think
that
would
be
any
maybe
individual
world
councils.
We
can
see
what
we
can
do.
I
think
there's
a
lot
to
be
a
lot
of
real
positive
games
to
be
had
councillor.
Illinois
really
really
super
briefly.
B
Yes,
I
would
just
urge
that
we
do
a
really
thorough
check
on
viability,
ability
with
this
scheme.
I
speak
of
somebody.
Who's
been
composting
for
40
years
or
longer.
All
our
stuff
is
composted
at
home.
We
don't
waste
a
scrap,
but
I
was
also
involved
with
a
community
scheme
in
kirksville
or
about
10
years
ago,
which
went
bust
and
it
went
bust
because
the
economics
hadn't
been
thought
through
properly
and
it
wasn't
totally
compatible
with
the
city
council
waste
collection
service.
B
A
F
I
think
we
have
pat
here
from
reap
pat,
if
you'd
like
to
switch.
J
J
We
didn't
we
weren't
clever
enough,
I'm
afraid
to
do
a
video,
so
we
you'll
have
to
just
hear
me
speak
for
a
few
minutes,
but
I
just
thought
points
I
want
to
make
I'm
here
on
behalf
of
an
organization
a
local
charity
called
reap
which
stands
for
round
hair
environmental
action
project
I
mean,
we've
been
in,
we've
been
going
since
2007
and
we
have
about
200
members
locally,
and
what
we
aim
to
do
is
really
raise
awareness
of
climate
change
and
sort
of
practical
steps
that
people
can
take
to
make
lifestyle
changes
to
you
know
to
their
to
their
homes
and
so
on
now.
J
You
know
what
the
grants
are.
What
the
what
the,
what
the
things
that
need
to
be
done
are
I
mean
we're
aware
of
your
air
quality
action
plan.
This
is
lcc's
air
quality
action
plan,
which
I
believe
has
a
commitment
to
increase
public
awareness
on
how
to
reduce
home
energy
costs,
increase
efficiency,
including
through
the
use
of
grants
and
schemes
available
by
well.
It
said
in
the
plan
september
2021
I
mean
this
is
something
that
we're
wondering
when
we
can
see
that
what
we
can
expect
from
it.
J
We're
also
interested
in
whether
the
council,
in,
in
addition
to
providing
advice
for
people,
would
be
able
to
provide
some
kind
of
information
on
reputable
preferred
providers
to
do
the
sort
of
work
that
needs
to
be
done
in
houses,
because
a
lot
of
people
are
worried
that
they
think.
Oh,
yes,
I'll,
get
myself
a
heat
pump
and
then
some
person
comes
along,
says,
elsa
I'll
fit
you
a
heat
pump,
but
it
doesn't
work.
I
mean.
How
are
we
to
know?
J
Is
there
some
kind
of
you
know
almost
like
a
a
branding
scheme
or
a
or
a
you
know
like,
so
that
we
know
that
when
people
are
commissioning
builders,
these
people
are
qualified
and
more
widely?
Is
the
council
in
touch
with
things
like
the
college
of
building,
to
make
sure
that
we
are
getting
people
coming
through
with
the
skills
to
do
the
very
different
sort
of
work
in
homes?
That's
going
to
need
to
be
done.
I
mean
I'm
talking
here,
particularly
about
you
know
about
households
living
in
just
living
in
houses
in
this
area.
J
The
other
thing
I
was
going
to
ask
is
you
know
if
you
have
any
update
on
the
green
bond,
because
that's
also
on
behalf
of
local
people,
something
that
people
are
very
interested
in
and
we
keep
picking
up
snippets
of
information
about
there's
going
to
be
a
green
bond,
and
I
can
tell
you
that
there
are
many
people
in
this
area
who
will
be
very
keen
to
invest
in
such
a
bond
if
it
was
issued
and
made
available.
J
So
and
that's
really
what
I
wanted
to
what
I
really
wanted
to
highlight.
J
The
main
point
is
about
what
are
you
going
to
be
able
to
do
in
terms
of
information
and
reassurance
to
householders
and
owner
occupiers
across
the
whole
raft
of
types
of
housing
in
the
city,
but
I'm
speaking
specifically
on
behalf
of
round
hey
area
and
the
sorts
of
houses
we
have
here
where
people
can
get
the
sort
of
helpful
advice
that
they
need,
and
they
can
know
that
when
they
pick
a
builder
or
whatever
they're,
picking
someone
who
is
reputable
and
knows
what
they're
doing
and
you
know,
and
also
can
you
make
available
information
via
you
know,
I
don't
know
letters
to
council
taxpayers,
I
suppose
about
you,
know
what
is
going
to
happen
and
what
the
time
scale
is
and
what
people
need
to
be
thinking
about
doing
to
their
homes.
J
And
that's
really
what
I
wanted
to
say.
I
hope
that's,
I
hope
that's
clear
and
helpful
and
we
as,
as
I
say,
we're
local
charity.
We
stand
ready
to
help
in
any
way
we
can,
if
it's
a
question
of
you,
know,
promulgating
information,
locally
and
so
on.
We
have
quite
good
networks
to
be
able
to
do
that
and
we're
willing
to
work
with
you
on
this.
We're
not
trying
to
be
difficult.
We're
just
trying
to
draw
to
your
attention
a
problem
that
a
lot
of
people
are
drawing
to
our
attention.
J
That
feels
like
a
pretty
scary
thing
to
have
to
take
on.
You
know
if
you're
living
in
a
house
with
a
23
year
old,
boiler
gas
boiler
that
you
think
this
boiler
is
not
going
to
last
much
longer.
You
know
people
are
panicking
about
what
they're
going
to
do
about
it
and
what's
the
right,
that's
what
they're
going
to
do?
What's
the
right
thing
to
do,
and
how
can
they
be
sure,
they're
taking
the
right
steps
yeah?
A
It
is
part,
they're,
very,
very
clear,
very
concise,
lots
of
very
sensible
questions
and
issues
to
raise
to
us
yeah.
What
I'm
suggesting-
and
I
know
members
indicate
they
won't
want
to
speak
on
this-
what
I
suggest
I'm
going
to
bring
them
in
in
a
sec
for
their
very,
very,
very
brief
contributions.
But
what
I
suggest
is
that
perhaps
councillor
hayden
and
polly
cook
and
myself
in
some
form
or
another
meet
up
with
you
guys
further
to
discuss
these
issues,
because
there
are
a
lot
of
things.
A
K
Really
quickly
on
the
issue
of
working
with
leeds
college
of
building,
sorry
at
leed
city
college,
as
it
is
we're
working
with
them.
This
friday,
I've
got
a
careers
green
careers
event
that
I'm
and
there's
gonna
be
panel
with
two
leeds
east
and
academy,
and
the
chapel
town
dixon
academy.
K
So
we're
working
very
closely
with
the
college
on
all
things
kind
of
infrastructure
and
on
low
carbon
food,
and
then
I'm
remember,
pat,
that's
all
part
of
the
low
carb
and
food
lunch
yeah,
and
so
it
was
yeah
we're
working
very
very
closely
on
on
getting
young
people
into
these
green
careers
and
and
we're
happy
to
discuss
further,
as
as
neil
suggested
with
with
polly.
Thank
you.
A
K
C
Yes,
it
was,
I
was
asked
by
a
group
to
try
and
mention
something
at
this
point
today.
It's
one
that
you've
been
involved
with
ready
chair,
and
I
know
that
councilor
hayden's
obviously
been
involved.
It's
the
network,
rail
cutting
back
of
trees.
All
the
way
on
the
harrogate
line.
C
They've
asked
me:
if
I
will
do
a
structuring
inquiry
into
it,
which
is
fine,
I
will
look
into
it,
but
it's.
How
do
we
want
to
deal
with
it
from
a
sac?
Because
I
do
understand
that
neil
you
have
met
with
yeah
network
rail,
it's
just
how
we
can
deal
with
it,
because
fine,
I
do
accept
that
trees
on
the
line
do
cause
traffic
transport
hold-ups.
I
don't
dispute
that,
but
the
level
of
tree
cutting
that's
going
on
appears
to
be
excessive.
C
I
know
that
council
ellingworth
has
also
been
copied
into
the
same
emails
as
I
have
as
well
as
a
number
of
other
on
the
call.
But
how
do
we
deal
with
this?
How
do
we
deal
with
this.
A
No
thanks.
Thanks
barry,
I
mean
yes,
I've
been
banging
heads
with
network
rail
for
about
two
months
over
this
in
in
the
latest
version
of
their
that
euphemistically
called
woodland
management
processes.
It's
affecting
a
large
part
of
leads,
it's
very
frustrating
at
the
moment.
A
Just
very
briefly
folks,
at
the
moment,
they've
made
it
adamantly
clear
that
they've
been
instructed
from
on
high
to
clear
the
leaves
off
the
line
within
budget
and
they've
decided
that
the
only
way
to
do
this
is
a
vast
amount
of
clear
cutting
of
wooded
vegetation
and
thus
the
nuclear
option
for
getting
rid
of
a
huge
part
of
the
leaves
it
does
seem
unwarranted.
It's
how
to
step
with
their
woodland
processes.
A
You
know
their
arboreal
management
processes
in
other
parts
of
the
country.
It
appears,
and
it's
very
much
out
of
step
with
our
desires
as
a
council
for
massively
increasing
the
amount
of
trees
and
leads
which
we're
in
the
process
of
doing,
but
obviously
this
doesn't
help
it's
it's
working
progress,
liaising
with
parliamentarians,
barry
as
as
well
as
the
council.
A
I
think
we'll
probably
have
some
more
further
correspondence
going
out
this
week,
which,
if
you
could
be
involved
with
that'd,
be
fantastic
best
to
do
it
on
a
absolutely
best
to
do
it
on
a
cross-party
basis.
That
is
a
working
progress,
but
it
is
enormously
frustrating.
A
And
so,
if
we
want
to
look
at
that,
how
we
do
this
going
forward,
but
this
is
slightly
different
from
how
we've
done
things
previously.
I
don't
mind.
I
think
we
should
be
an
adaptive
panel,
but
it
if
we're
gonna
have.
If
we're
gonna
have
discussion
items
after
open
forums,
we
might
have
to
sort
of
notionally
add
20
minutes
to
the
meeting
length
as
a
fix,
because.
C
A
A
We
can
cajole
and
convince
and
beg
and
prostrate
ourselves,
but
they've
made
it
clear
that
they
have
the
statutory
powers
to
do
effective,
whatever
they
want
and
unless
they,
unless
they
get
a
directive
from
the
very
top.
Almost
from
the
secretary
of
state,
then
they're
not
going
to
change
this
they'd
be
given
a
directive
to
make
the
network
run
at
a
peak
efficiency,
and
this
is
the
way
they're
going
to
go
so
far
and
we
hope
it
changed
our
mind.
But
it's
it's.
Yes,
it's
enormously
frustrating,
as
you
can
tell
from
my
response.
B
Wisdom
were
wasted
upon
your
chair.
I
was
going
to
say
I
agree
with
you
that
it
is
a
serious
problem.
We
need
to
act
very
quickly
and
perhaps
we
should
meet
separately
outside
this
meeting
and
thrash
out
what
our
options
are,
but
I
think
raising
it
at
the
top,
as
you
suggested,
is
just
about
the
only
way
forward
and
it
may
still
be
a
very
slow
process.
I
fear.
A
Yeah
no,
I
yeah
it's
yeah,
there's
a
lot
going
on,
but
that's
yeah
you're
right.
Let's
convene
outside
this
forum
right
on
that
we're
going
to
move
on
to
working
groups,
update
polly.
E
Bestify
on
me,
if
we
start
with
the
behavior
change
and
transport
working
group,
so
the
the
last
meeting
they
held
was
about
to
learn
more
and
to
discuss
plans
to
increase
bus
patronage,
and
we
heard
from
professor
gillian
enabler-
I
might
have
pronounced
that
wrong.
So
apologies,
if
I
have,
and
to
the
institute
of
transport
studies
at
the
university
of
leeds
she
presented
a
summary
of
the
latest
insight
into
barriers
to
increasing
bus
travel.
E
We're
looking
at
a
publicity
campaign
linked
to
that.
So
again,
members
had
a
chance
to
input
into
that
and
feedback
on
on
that
document
before
it
goes
public
and
we
had
a
short
discussion
in
terms
of
the
use
of
chemicals
and
that's
going
to
be
brought
back
again
as
a
second
item
and
in
terms
of
that
working
group
going
forward
we're
going
to
be
looking
at
the
food
action
plan
which
links
into
the
targets
that
we
went
public
with
at
the
end
of
last
month.
I
believe,
and
then
in
the
planning
and
energy
group.
E
We
heard
in
detail
about
the
public
sector
carbonization
scheme
about
some
of
the
challenges
about
business
cases
and
how
how
that's
worked
across
the
whole
program
of
work.
So
we're
going
to
hear
about
the
school
specific
part
of
that
today
and-
and
we
also
had
a
follow-up
discussion
about
past
2035-
and
I
mean
the
discussions
and
the
interactions
that
happen
with
government
and
discuss
sort
of
next
steps
of
how
we
start
to
move
some
of
those
challenges
forward
and
again.
E
That
grief
is
going
to
specifically
pick
up
some
of
the
consultation
documents
linked
to
the
heat
strategy
and
the
various
different
technologies
that
are
coming
through
and
that's
part
of
the
21
22
documents
that
were
released
last
week
by
central
government.
So
I
shall
leave
it
there.
A
Obsolete
hand,
that's
that
new
term
right:
okay,
okay,
so
no
any
anything.
Further
working
groups,
polly.
A
Wonderful.
Okay:
in
that
case,
we've
got
now
three
substantive
items,
they're
incredibly
interesting
with
with
cop
and
the
focus
on
the
future.
We
thought
we'd
have
an
update
on
what
we're
doing
regarding
some
really
important
areas
of
work,
and
so
the
first
one
is
an
update
on
work
to
raise
awareness
among
young
people
of
green
careers
in
leeds
around
in
around
cop
26..
A
It's
on
everyone's
mind
at
the
moment,
it's
good
time
to
publicize
and
to
push
what
will
be
the
the
new,
the
new
careers
and
jobs
of
the
21st
century,
which
we're
super
keen
that
these
young
people
take
advantage
of.
So
without
that
over
to
chad.
G
Good
morning
councillors
I'm
just
going
to
share
my
screen
before
I
get
underway,
and
I
also
just
say:
welcome
to
carly
bowden
from
employment
and
skills
and
georgie
johnson
from
a
head
partnership
as
well.
Who's
gonna
help
me
with
this
presentation
so
as
councillor
walsh
has
already
explained,
and
one
of
the
things
that
we're
doing
around
cop26
this
year
is
trying
to
raise
awareness
of
some
of
the
green
careers.
G
You
know
that
will
be
created
in
the
next
few
years
over
the
next
few
decades,
in
fact,
as
a
uk
and
as
leads
transitions
to
net
zero.
So
I
thought
I'd
introduce
this
hang
on
this
isn't
presenting
full.
How
do
I
get
it
to
go
full
screen
when
you
want
it
to.
E
G
All
right
brilliant,
so
I
thought
I
thought
I'd
introduce
this
by
just
bringing
to
a
members
attention
the
the
government's
net
zero
strategy
that
was
published
in
the
last
few
weeks,
and
one
thing
that's
very
clear
in
the
in
the
government.
Zero
strategy
is
that
green
jobs
and
green
careers
are
is
a
kind
of
core
common
thread
that
runs
runs
through
it
by
their
own
estimate
by
their
own
estimates.
The
the
business
secretary
said
that
you
know
this
transition
could
create
440
000
jobs
across
the
uk
by
2030..
G
Obviously,
the
leads
in
the
uk
have
slightly
different
targets
for
net
zero,
but
I
think
the
the
the
commonality
is
there
will
be
an
awful
lot
of
jobs
that
are
created.
So
it's.
How
do
we?
How
best
do
we
transition
the
economy?
And
how
do
we
prepare
young
people
for
some
of
these
jobs
in
that
net?
Zero
strategy?
There's
also
a
breakdown
of
where
these
jobs
are
likely
to
be
created.
G
So
you'll
see
that
there's
plenty
coming
from
heathen
buildings
in
particular,
as
well
as
industry
power,
but
across
all
sectors
of
the
economy.
Really
there
will
be
there's
estimates
of
new
jobs
being
created,
and
you
know
with
a
with
a
strategy.
That's
looking
over
the
next
three
decades.
Of
course,
there's
also
a
great
degree
of
uncertainty,
and
these
figures
could,
you
know,
could
change
over
the
next.
You
know
decade
or
so
so
in
leeds
we're
already
seeing
green
jobs
being
created.
G
So
in
the
last
week,
council
lewis
met
with
synergists
who
have
created
a
dozen
skilled,
green
jobs
in
beeston,
thanks
to
the
council's
investment
in
low
carbon
heat
pump.
It's
also
worth
mentioning
that
our
district
heating
network
has
helped
employ
more
than
430
people,
including
three
dozen
apprentices
and
looking
at
leads
and
going
forwards.
G
The
place-based
climate
action
network
has
estimated
that
around
100
000
jobs
in
the
district
will
be
impacted
by
either
kind
of
increased
or
decreased
demand
as
a
result
of
the
net
zero
transition,
so
the
transition
will
have
a
really
significant
effect
on
the
economy.
So
again
it's
about
preparing.
You
know
workers
and
young
people
for
that
transition
and
also,
I
think
it's
worth
pointing
out
that
most
screen
jobs
will
be
created
by
the
private
private
sector,
but
obviously
that
you
know.
G
G
So
I'll
take
a
step
back
for
a
moment
and
kind
of
ponder
the
question
of
kind
of
what
is
a
green
job.
There
are
multiple
definitions
out
there
and,
depending
on
who,
you
asked,
but
one
definition
which
the
uk's
green
jobs
task
force
has
come
up
with,
which
is
what
we're
gonna,
which
is
what
I'm
gonna
use
for
the
rest
of
this
presentation.
G
It's
quite
a
broad
definition,
so
it's
basically
any
activity
that
contributes
to
or
supports
the
net
zero
transition.
So
there
are
some
that
some
sectors
such
as
and
some
organizations
such
as
the
aons
that
look
more
specifically
at
certain
sectors
such
as
low
carbon
and
and
energy.
But
in
order
to
become
a
net
zero
economy,
you
will
need
an
activity
across
every
sector
to
help
each
sector
decarbonize.
G
So
that's
why
the
this
broader
definition
is
also
quite
important,
so
the
green
jobs
task
force
also
had
a
look
at
how
to
deliver
upon
the
the
government's
commitment
of
creating
two
million
green
jobs
across
the
uk
by
2013
came
up
with
15
recommendations,
and
one
of
these
recommendations
was
to
really
improve
careers
advice
to
ensure
that
it
is
preparing
people
for
and
preparing
young
people
for
pathways
into
green
careers
and
similar
recommendations
have
also
been
made
by
the
cbi
and
the
environmental
audit
committee,
who
also
called
for
increased
awareness.
G
The
focus
of
today's
meeting
is
about
young
people
and
schools
and
in
this
kind
of
discussion
of
green
careers,
young
people
have
a
really
important
role
to
play.
Not
only
will
they
be
the
workers
of
the
future,
but
we
also
know
that
they
are
particularly
enthusiastic
about
tackling
climate
change
and
ensuring
that
young
people
are
kept
at
the
heart
of
economic
growth
is
one
of
the
focuses
of
the
council's
inclusive
growth
strategy.
G
So
that
is
why
we're
focusing
on
young
people
for
this
particular
bit
of
work,
but
obviously,
as
part
of
a
broader
transition
to
a
net
zero
economy,
we'll
need
to
ensure
that
no
one
is
left
behind,
whether
that
is
workers
in
high
carbon
industries
or
young
people.
G
So
I'm
going
to
just
introduce
carly
from
the
employment
and
skills
team.
Just
to
briefly
talk
about
how
this
links
to
our
you
know
ongoing
strategies
and
the
work
that
that
service
is
doing
and
carl,
if
you
want
to.
Let
me
know
when
you
want
me
to
to
skip
slides
just
just
say.
L
Brilliant
thanks
chad
and
thank
you
for
the
introduction
and
thanks
for
having
me
today
so
yeah
part
of
my
role
is
working
in
the
employment
and
skills
service
and
in
terms
of
green
careers
and
green
jobs.
I
just
want
to
talk
a
little
bit
how
it
links
into
the
talent
and
skills
plan,
which
is
the
plan
that
informs
our
employment
and
skills
work.
So
as
part
of
the
talent
and
skills
plan,
there
are
a
number
of
collective
calls
to
action,
and
one
of
those
is
around
improving
connections
between
employment
opportunities
and
residents.
L
So
it's
about
making
people
aware
of
labor
market
information,
how
they
can
access
those
opportunities
that
exist
and
what
skills
they
might
need
to
transition
into
different
opportunities
and
again
part
of
our
work
is
around
working
with
employers
and
job
seekers,
to
support
movement
into
growth
sectors
and
that's
through
providing
good
quality
information,
advice
and
guidance
at
all
levels.
So,
as
chad
alluded
to
not
just
young
people
but
around
people
who
are
seeking
employment
opportunities
again
within
the
talent
and
skills
plan,
it's
around
putting
employers
at
the
heart
of
the
education
and
the
skill
system.
L
So
working
in
partnership
with
employers
and
sectors
to
make
sure
that
the
skill
system
meets
the
needs
of
employers
and
economic
priorities.
So
for
us,
it's
all
around
how
we
engage
with
businesses
at
an
early
stage
to
identify
the
skills,
gaps
and
shortages
that
they
might
have
at
the
moment
or
have
in
the
future
and
again
working
to
support
businesses
to
engage
with
secondary
schools
and
colleges
in
particular,
to
really
make
sure
that
young
people
can
make
those
informed
choices
about
the
future
and
that
they're
aware
of
those
opportunities
and
how
to
access
them.
L
And
thirdly,
it's
around
better
jobs
so
again,
working
in
partnership
around
looking
at
initiatives
to
support
businesses
and
individuals
to
improve
their
individual
skills
and
then
progress
into
better
jobs
and
again
working
with
partners
to
retrain
individuals
where
skills
and
training
their
individual
skills
and
training
don't
actually
align
to
the
to
the
labour
market.
L
Next
yeah
lovely
thanks
chad.
So
what
are
we
doing
to
implement
the
talent
and
skills
plan?
So,
very
briefly,
within
the
employment
and
skills
service
we
have
our
employment
hub.
So
that's
where
we're
working
with
job
seekers
and
individuals
who
are
looking
for
employment
opportunities
and
providing
them
again
with
good
quality
information,
advice
and
guidance
through
matching
them
up
to
an
employment
advisor
and
again,
the
gain
share
project
is
around
individuals
who
are
about
to
be
made
redundant.
L
So
how
can
we
look
at
the
skills
that
they
have
and
make
sure
that
they
match
the
labour
market,
and
particularly
when
we're
looking
at
jobs
in
the
green
economy,
how
we
might
upskill
those
individuals
through
our
adult
learning
provision,
so
what
provision
already
exists?
And
what
might
we
want
to
put
in
place
in
the
future
to
make
sure
that
people's
skills
match
the
the
labor
market
requirements
and
again,
very
briefly
and
business
engagement?
So
our
service
works
with
businesses
who
are
looking
to
recruit,
so
we
advertise
vacancies
on
their
behalf.
L
So
that's
around
increasing
awareness
of
labor
market
information
if
a
business
is
struggling
to
recruit
within
the
green
sector,
you
know
what
are
the
reasons.
Why
are
there
some
myths
or
some
misconceptions
there-
that
we
might
need
to
tackle
and
also
we
work
with
businesses
around
apprenticeships?
L
So
how
can
we
encourage
businesses
to
make
use
of
their
apprenticeship
levy
and
take
on
apprentices,
and
I
can
see
that
there's
actually
a
green
apprenticeships
advisory
panel,
that's
being
created
to
look
at
how
we
can
plug
some
of
those
gaps
with
apprenticeships
and
then
we'll
move
on
to
school
engagement
chat,
if
that's
okay,
so
just
really
quickly
again
linking
this
into
to
the
green
careers
event.
What
activities
do
our
does?
L
Our
service
already
do
to
engage
schools,
so
we
have
a
network
which
is
the
careers,
education,
information,
advice
and
guidance
network
where
we
bring
together
all
the
careers
coordinators
across
the
city,
and
we
discuss
updates.
We
invite
businesses
and
partners
to
come
and
talk
about
opportunities
so
that
young
people
can
really
have
the
best
advice
and
guidance
available
for
them.
We
also
produce
a
monthly
newsletter
where
we
work
with
businesses
around
work,
experience
opportunities.
L
They
might
have
events
that
they're
putting
on
and
then
we
circulate
those
to
careers
leaders
and
then
also
we
deliver
the
leads
apprenticeship,
recruitment,
fair.
So
every
year
that
is
taking
place
well,
this
year
is
taking
place
at
the
first
direct
arena
last
year.
It
was
a
virtual
and
we've
had
6
000
attendees
in
person
in
the
past.
So
again
any
businesses
who
are
looking
to
take
on
an
apprentice
in
the
green
sector.
It's
a
brilliant
opportunity
to
engage
face-to-face
with
young
people
and
again
starting
leads
our
careers
portal.
L
So
all
young
people,
our
job
seekers,
can
access
starting
leads
for
free
and
it
contains
key
information
around
labour
market
information
within
the
city
and
then,
finally,
just
before
I
hand
over
to
georgie,
we've
got
our
priority
target
neighborhood
school
analysis.
So
we
offer
a
free,
impartial
service
to
all
schools.
But
what
are
we
doing
with
those
priority
target
neighborhoods
that
really
need
that
extra
intervention?
L
So
we've
got
a
bit
of
an
analysis
going
on
around
what's
already
going
on
in
those
areas
and
how
we
can
sign
post
provision
accordingly
to
those
those
priority
neighborhoods
so
without
further
ado
I'll
hand
over
to
georgie
who's
from
head
partnership,
who's
going
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
event
that's
taking
place
on
friday.
L
F
Sorry,
sorry
I
was
on
you,
I
think
I'd
be
used
to
it
by
now.
So
yeah.
Thank
you
again
and
for
having
me
this
morning
at
the
event
we're
running
on
friday,
so
yeah
and
my
name
is
jody
from
a
company.
F
What
businesses
are
needing
to
ensure
that
they
can
work
in
the
most
sustainable
and
most
efficient
way
in
the
future,
and
so
exploring
green
careers
in
leeds
events
is
taking
taking
place
at
situ.
F
F
F
The
students
come
along
and
have
a
real,
diverse
mix
of
students
and
so
really
being
able
to
showcase
kind
of
the
accessibility
that
these
roles
have
is
really
key
and
really
important,
so
that
young
people
are
really
able
to
see
what
opportunities
they
have
in
front
of
them
for
the
future,
and
overall
kind
of
young
people
will
be
engaging
with
local
workers
and
in
green
jobs
to
learn
more
about
the
future
low
carbon
careers
in
west
yorkshire.
F
G
Yeah
so
across
the
country
and
there's
all
different
kinds
of
events
taking
place
to
kind
of
raise
awareness
of
cop
26,
you
know
and
the
local
impacts
we
were
able
to.
We
were
planning
this
event
and
was
able
to
secure
a
little
bit
of
funding
from
the
government
to
deliver
this
event
to
the
quality
that
we'd
like,
because
we're
also
using
as
an
opportunity
to
promote
the
objectives
of
of
cop
transfer
locally.
G
F
Yeah
absolutely
so
yeah.
As
I
said,
ahead
partnership,
we
have
a
not-for-profit
social
enterprise
and
we
work
across
the
country.
But
we
are
headquartered
in
leeds
and
we've
been
around
for
about
15
years
and
and
as
it
said
here,
we
aim
to
kind
of
develop
programmes
of
meaningful
activity
that
change
communities
that
we
we
work
with
and,
as
I
mentioned,
a
lot
of
that
at
the
moment
is
based
around
kind
of
future
skills
and
work
and
workforce
of
the
future.
F
As
I
said,
work
nationally
and
through
the
years
we
have
been
able
to
engage
with
more
and
more
young
people
to
really
showcase
the
opportunities
available
to
them,
and
we
work
with
a
number
of
different
clients
from
quite
small
businesses,
all
the
way
through
to
more
large,
nationally
recognized
businesses
in
different
ways,
supporting
that
their
program
of
kind
of
esg
and
kind
of
community
support.
F
And
if
you
want
to
move
on
to
the
next
slide,
chad,
and
so,
as
I
said
earlier,
and
the
event
will
be
hosted
at
situ,
which
is
the
first
zero
carbon
office
building
in
leeds
and
early
in
development.
But
it's
looking
really
fantastic
and
we've
picked
this
location
just
to
really
show
the
young
people
what
is
achievable
through
these
green
careers,
showing
you
know
some
tangible
areas
that
will
be
kind
of
produced
from
all
these.
F
These
green
economy
goals
and
the
aims
of
the
the
event
is
to
raise
awareness
of
the
regional
opportunities
for
green
jobs
and
apprenticeships,
highlight
the
economic
benefits
to
local
people
and
economy
of
net
zero
transition
and
demonstrate
that
green
jobs
are
desirable,
attainable,
diverse
and
a
way
of
making
positive
change.
F
Okay
and
in
terms
of
what
the
event
actually
looks
like,
we
have
two
careers
panels,
which
is
a
q,
a
session
for
young
people
to
go
through,
and
they
will
also
be
having
a
tour
of
the
situation
site
to
understand
what
the
site
looks
like
now.
The
plans
for
the
future
and
the
kind
of
roles
that
are
needed
to
develop
a
site
like
that.
F
The
new
skills
needed
to
be
able
to
kind
of
work
in
these
green
green
roles
and
what
that
may
look
like,
and
we
have
speeches
from
the
mayor,
tracy
ribbon,
who
sent
through
a
pre-recorded
video
specifically.
F
And
we
will
be
having
steve
mcdonald
he's
the
general
manager
at
power
bridge
and
he
and
part
of
the
west
yorkshire,
green
jobs
task
force,
and
he
will
be
talking
about
the
importance
of
kind
of
how
energy
and
power
and
the
big
part
that
they
will
play
in
the
movie,
zero
and
and
speeches,
and
the
discussions
will
all
be
filmed
and
then
used
as
a
legacy.
Video
that
can
be
shared
with
schools
into
the
future
about
careers
in
the
sector
in
terms
of
themselves.
F
And
we
have
a
mix
of
businesses
attending
sectors,
key
sectors.
If
the
booth
wasn't
at
zero,
and
here
we've
we've
left
listed
things.
People
like
synergist,
mighty
and
drinks,
as
we've
said:
situ
louis
city,
council,
fairshare,
yorkshire,
bam
and
civic
engineers
and
sea
capture.
F
So
a
mix
of
industries,
everything
from
engineering
construction
all
the
way
through
to
and
through
production
and
showing
kind
of
that
representation
of
green
careers
in
a
number
of
sectors
and
showing
young
people
the
diverse
opportunities
that
are
also
available
to
them
in
different
entry
routes
and
which
is
really
important.
You
know
through
apprenticeships,
through
graduate
schemes
or
that
kind
of
broad
and
mix
of
opportunities
for
them.
F
Thank
you,
I'm
just
a
little
bit
in
terms
of
how
this
feeds
into
a
head
partnership
in
our
wider
strategy.
A
lot
of
our
clients
that
we
work
with
now.
A
lot
of
our
partners
are
moving
more
towards
programs
that
really
kind
of
support
their
esg
strategy
and
targets
and
a
lot
around
social,
but
also
around
environmental
as
well,
and
so
here's
listed
a
couple
of
examples
of
where
we
have
work
with
local
businesses,
local
companies
to
kind
of
promote
green
careers.
What
that
means.
F
This
most
recent
program
is
a
three-year
regional
program
and
promoting
the
future
of
public
transport
and
its
impacts
on
climate
change,
and
we
then
had
over
3
500
young
people
involved
in
that
so
far,
and
then
it
was
been
rolled
out
into
younger
year
groups
so
started
nice
and
young
at
primary
school
and
reinforcing
that
message
throughout
their
education
and
as
well
as
the
wider
national
festival
around
growing
talent
in
the
green
economy.
So
that
is
that's
a
national
program.
F
G
Saying
that
I'm
really
excited
for
friday's
event,
I
think
it
it
should.
You
know,
run
really.
Well,
it's
great.
G
I
want
I'm
really
looking
forward
to
hearing
all
the
different
panelists
that
have
kindly
agreed
to
take
part,
and
I
think
it's
you
know-
and
I
hope
members
agree,
that
it's
a
good
way
of
demonstrating
that
all
the
commitments
that
are
being
made
at
cop
and
at
a
national
level
will
have
an
impact
here
in
leeds,
and
although
there
is
a
lot
of
work
to
be
to
do,
that
means
there's
a
lot
of
jobs
to
be
created
if
we
are
to
to
achieve
net
zero.
Thank
you
very
much.
A
Thank
you,
folks.
That
was
an
excellent
presentation
and
looking
at
exactly
the
kind
of
things
we've
been
talking
about
as
a
committee
for
for
a
while
now
in
the
you
know,
these
new
jobs
of
the
future
have
such
opportunities
for
young
people
in
in
leeds.
So
I've
got
some
indicators
when
to
ask
questions.
So
council
buckle
your
first.
B
B
There
was
a
reference
to
picking
builders
or
picking
a
builder,
and
I
just
wanted
to
make
the
point
there
that
this
training
is
highly
important,
because
at
the
moment
uncertainly
in
the
next
few
years
there
is
no
possibility
of
picking
a
builder,
because
the
information
I
read
is
that
there
are
so
few
people
at
the
moment
who
are
capable
of
carrying
out
this
kind
of
work
that
it's
going
to
require
a
massive
program
of
trading
before
we
can
even
pick
a
builder,
because
if
it
happened
well
by
2030
they're
going
to
be
so
few
of
these
people
that
they
would,
in
theory,
be
an
enormous
waiting
list
before
you
could
even
have
the
work
done.
B
But
then
the
second
point,
very
briefly
chair
was
that
really
it
links
into
this
whole
business
of
worldwide
carbon
neutrality.
Not
just
here
in
that,
presumably
as
a
city,
we
ought
to
require
that
any
items
made
in
terms
of
retrofitting
and
that
kind
of
thing
should
only
be
sourced
from
a
country
which
was
either
carbon
neutral
or
driving
down
that
road.
B
The
very
little
point
in
fitting
20
000
heat
source
pumps,
which
came
in
some
form
or
another
from
a
country
which
didn't
really
pay
much
heed
to
this
so
they're.
My
two
points,
joe
thank
you.
A
Yeah
thanks
carson
buckley
yeah,
it's
it's
almost
as
if
this
requires
a
a
national
mobilization
of
resources
on
the
scale
not
seen
since
1939
40..
I
mean
it
really.
Does
I
mean
I
know
I've
said
that
multiple
occasions,
but
I'm
really
really
really
not
kidding
about
that.
What
we're
demonstrating
here,
I
think,
is
the
the
sort
of
the
starting
point
of
what
needs
to
be
done,
and
I
think
we're
doing
that
very
well.
A
Like
a
broken
record
on
that,
but
I'm
going
to
keep
mentioning
to
mention
and
mention
it
until
people
start
to
just
pay
notice,
and
I
think
the
work
that
george
and
carly
highlighted
in
chad
is
is
the
really
good
starting
blocks
the
foundations
you
feel
like
we're,
putting
in
in
reads
just
a
bit
of
background
now
I'll
bring
kellyanne
george
anything.
We
want
to
respond
to
your
points,
but
I
think
it's
me
to
add
to
a
bit
of
background
vote.
A
So
that's
going
to
be
that's
going
to
send
and
I
probably
suspect
it
already
is
starting
to
send
seismic
ripples
through
the
through
the
housing
industry
and
if
it
isn't,
shareholders
need
to
be
asking
the
volume,
perhaps
builders,
the
achievements
why
it
isn't,
but
that
should
also
be
sending
a
seismic
event
through
both
government,
local
and
central,
about
how
how
we
equip
children,
young
people
for
the
future,
because
the
jobs
are
going
to
change,
and
I
think
that's
what
we're
trying
to
do
here.
L
I
was
just
going
to
say
really
briefly
just
to
pick
up
on
that
point.
Chair
was
just
around
the
the
work
that
we're
doing
as
well
around
employment
and
skills
obligations
for
large
developments
in
the
city,
which
I
forgot
to
mention.
So
any
contractor,
who
has
a
development
over
a
significant
size,
has
to
has
employment
and
skills
obligations
attached
to
those
developments.
L
So
it's
again
how
we,
as
a
service,
are
engaging
with
those
businesses
around
the
sort
of
you
know
the
green
agenda
and
encouraging,
when
they're
then
going
out
to
subcontractors
around
how
we
can
then
put
employment
skills
obligations
down
the
chain
to
ensure
that
you
know
as
part
of
the
whole
development
it's
high
on
the
agenda
and
then
again
that
links
back
to
school
engagement,
where
we
have
employment
and
skills
obligations
attached
to
so
many
ex
work,
experience,
opportunities,
site
visits,
etc.
A
G
I
would
just
recommend
as
well,
because
I
I
looked
today
over
the
weekends,
but
I
just
really
recommend
reading
the
heat
and
building
strategy
that
the
government
have
produced
where
they've
addressed.
Well,
they
they
have,
you
know,
stated
how
they
plan
to
scale
up
production
of
heat
pumps
in
britain.
Is
there
aim
that
heat
pumps
are,
you
know
primarily
produced
in
britain
and
that
they
want?
G
That's
why
there
are
benefits
to
leading
first
for
a
combination
of
stimulus
and
incentives
and
market-based
measures,
such
as
kind
of
consulting
on
requiring
manufacturers
of
boilers
and
such
like
to
start
manufacturing
certain
proportion
of
heat
pumps?
So
it
I'd
really
recommend
reading
that,
if
you,
if
you
know
people
are
interested
in
finding
out
about
how
we
plan,
how
the
uk
government
plans
to
scale
the
production.
A
C
I
was
just
saying
thank
you
very
much.
We
can
have
the
link
for
that.
That
would
be
interesting.
Can
I
just
ask,
since
you
read
it
this
weekend:
does
it
link
to
the
necessity
to
have
buildings
insulated,
as
well
as
having
air
source
heat
pumps,
because
that's
really
quite
crucial.
G
G
A
Yeah
it
is,
it
is
important
that
we
keep
in
mind
that
actually
materials
first
fabric
first
is
is
where
you
should
start
when
you're
running
renegades
to
both
retrofit
into
new
builds,
because
that's
what
you
know,
the
heat
loss
from
a
heat
pump
equipped
house
and
the
gas
boiler
house
look
the
same
if
the
insulation
is
terrible,
so
you
know,
I
think,
that's
important
right.
Folks,
let's
wrap
up
that
item.
Thank
you
very
much
for
our
contributors.
A
D
Is
indeed
come
to
warsaw
I'll
just
work
out
and
share
my
screen
if
I
seem
to
be
physically
shaking
at
any
stage,
I
promise
you're
not
that
intimidating.
It's
just
the
boiler
and
my
flaps
broken
over
the
weekend.
So
I'm
waiting
for
someone
to
come
out
and
fix
it.
D
D
Hi
there
sorry
yeah,
so
I'm
joe
callan,
I'm
from
the
sustainability
team
and
I've
been
working
on
the
last
year
from
bid
through
to
delivery
on
the
public
sector
decarbonisation
scheme.
So
today
I
thought
was
worth
giving
and
a
bit
background
to
the
scheme
and
then
focus
on
the
primary
schools
that
we've
been
working
on,
specifically
so
to
start
off
with
a
little
bit
of
context.
Appreciate.
D
Most
people
on
this
call
are
probably
well
aware
of
the
psds
I'll
refer
to
it
as
psds
to
save
a
bit
of
time,
but
in
any
case,
to
start
off
with
a
bit
of
context,
bayes
launched
a
one
billion
pound
funding
pot
last
october
for
decarbonization
and
energy
efficiency
measures
for
public
sector
buildings.
So
we
were
successful
in
receiving
25
million
pounds
of
funding
from
this
pot,
which
was
to
deliver
these
measures
at
about
40
to
43
of
our
sites.
So
we
focused
on
what
we
thought.
D
D
We
also
included
supplementation
measures
such
as
solar
pv,
led
light
and
double
glazing,
building
management
systems
etc.
Two
of
the
key
key
kind
of
figures
and
dates
for
us
were
the
delivery
deadlines,
so
this
was
originally
september
of
this
year.
Fortunately,
salex
granted
extensions
to
march
of
next
year.
We
only
actually
found
out
we
had
the
funding
in
february
of
this
year,
so
a
september
deadline
for
25
million
pounds
worth
of
works
would
have
been
quite
unfair.
D
I
think
it's
fair
to
say,
yeah
the
the
headline
figure
that
everyone's
interested
in
or
we
should
be
most
interested
in
really
is
the
carbon
saving
element,
which
is
about
3800
tons
on
an
annual
basis
across
all
of
the
schemes.
D
Looking
specifically
at
the
primary
schools,
which
is
the
focus
of
this
presentation
about
a
sixth
of
the
funding
we
received
was
for
primary
school
sites,
which
we're
working
on
working
at
11
of
them.
Focus
here
is
fully
on
air
source,
heat
pumps
and
solar
pv
used
to
offset
those
increased
running
costs
from
the
source.
D
Heat
pumps
about
half
of
the
sites
are
also
getting
led
schemes,
so
we
should
see
a
good
offsetting
of
those
increased
electricity
costs
and
to
give
you
a
bit
of
an
idea
of
the
scale
of
the
schools
project,
the
schools
are
attended
by
over
3
600
pupils
and
we're
looking
at
a
carbon
reduction
of
500
tons
per
year,
so
the
carbon
footprint
of
the
sites
will
go
down
from
800
tons
down
to
about
280
tons.
D
I
thought
it
was
probably
also
useful
just
to
give
people
an
idea
of
the
range
of
sites
we're
working
at
so
just
kind
of
very
quickly
plotted
on
a
map
for
you,
the
primary
schools
that
we're
working
with
so
we're
working
all
the
way
up
in
weatherby
down
out
towards
morley
out
over
in
pudsey
and
to
the
east
over
in
seacroft
with
yeah.
A
fair
few
sites
started
across
that
as
well
before
we
actually
get
to
start
on
site.
D
D
These
are
some
of
the
key
challenges
we
faced
on
the
school
side,
specifically
so
procurement
being
the
kind
of
first
or
upfront
preliminary
activity
that
we
have
to
close
down.
We
were
identifying
quick
compliant
routes
to
market
for
all
the
various
technologies
that
we're
working
with
for
things
like
heat
pumps,
this
was
relatively
straightforward
for
solar
pv.
We
thought
it
was
relatively
straightforward
as
well.
D
However,
the
contracts
that
we're
using
for
the
corporate
sites
determined
that
their
business
case
didn't
actually
stack
up
for
the
school
sites
in
a
way
that
would
be
compliant
with
the
criteria
of
the
bid
and
as
such,
we
then
had
to
very
quickly
identify
an
alternative
contractor.
We
could
work
with
which
is
stall
for
schools,
as
I'm
sure
many
people
on
the
call
are
aware
already
so.
D
We've
been
working
with
sulfur
schools
since
about
november
last
year
on
all
the
bids
through
to
the
delivery
and
I'll
come
on
to
them
in
a
little
bit
more
detail,
because
I
think
the
way
that
business
case
works
is
is
quite
interesting
to
understand
as
well.
Whole
life
costs
was
an
additional
challenge
for
us.
So
on
the
corporate
estate
side
of
things,
we
have
the
advantage
that
we,
as
a
team
sustainability
team,
manage
the
energy
billing
centrally
so
for
some
sites,
such
as
the
care
homes,
they're,
actually
running
a
loss
effectively.
D
The
business
case
for
the
heat,
pumps
and
solar
pv
means
they'll
be
running
at
about
two
or
three
thousand
pounds
negative
kind
of
business
case.
However,
we
fortunately
can
use
some
of
the
larger
solar
schemes
to
offset
that,
so
that,
overall,
the
council
isn't
running
at
any
deficit
in
terms
of
the
energy
billing.
So,
for
example,
one
of
the
larger
leisure
centers
is
being
used
to
offset
about
three
or
four
of
the
care
home
sites
for
the
schools.
However,
that
is
not
the
case
for
schools.
D
We
have
to
ensure
that
no
individual
school
is
running
a
negative,
so
everyone
needs
to
be
running
that
surplus
effectively
once
all
of
the
different
technologies,
maintenance
costs,
etc
are
taken
into
account
that
unfortunately
meant
that
one
of
the
school
sites
fell
out
of
scope
following
receiving
the
funding,
because
we
just
couldn't
make
couldn't
make
it
stack
up
for
them
and
they
weren't
happy,
understandably,
of
course,
to
take
about
a
thousand
pound
loss
a
year.
I
think
it
would
have
been
working
during
term
time.
D
This
yeah,
the
the
restrictions
are
on
when
you
can
actually
work
at
school,
have
caused
quite
a
few
issues,
as
you
can
probably
imagine.
So.
We
have
worked
on
this
in
a
number
of
ways
for
led
lighting,
for
example,
we're
doing
nights
only
so
we're
working
from
well
say:
wait,
leech,
building
services.
D
What
gives
us
added
complexity
to
being
able
to
actually
deliver
the
works
at
schools?
Is
then
schools
plan
maintenance
program?
So
it's
already
the
ideal
time
to
work,
obviously
is
in
summer
and
half
terms.
However,
there's
then
the
pond
maintenance
program
managed
by
the
built
environment
team,
which
also
needs
to
be
considered
uncoordinated
with
so
for
some
schools
plan
maintenance
program
that
pretty
much
takes
priority
over
all
of
the
works,
because
it's
absolutely
essential
work
in
most
instances
for
the
schools
to
basically
be
able
to
continue
running
after
to
when
term
time
recommences.
D
D
D
Some
of
the
removals
are
health
and
safety
executive,
notifiable,
meaning
you
can't
start
the
works
prior
to
a
two-week
notification
to
the
hsc,
and
so
what
this
means
is
that
for
some
of
the
schools,
we
didn't
actually
fully
understand
the
extent
of
the
asbestos
removals
until
after
the
summer
period
had
already
ended,
which
means
a
mad
rush
to
then
get
contractors
lined
up
to
deliver
them
all
over
the
october
half
term,
because,
as
everyone
can
probably
appreciate,
you
can't
have
anyone
else
on
site
when
there's
asbestos
being
removed,
especially
young
children
planning.
D
These
are
kind
of
three
pillars
of
the
preliminary
activity
for
for
the
scheme,
asbestos
planning
and
dno
for
planning
on
the
school
side,
there's
been
one
site
in
particular,
where
we've
had
a
bit
of
an
issue
where
the
only
way
the
business
case
could
stack
up
was
to
increase
the
amount
of
solar
pv.
We
were
putting
in
so
to
do
that.
D
We
looked
at
installing
a
carport
structure
next
to
the
school
to
hold
the
solar,
so
that
is
currently
in
discussion
with
plan
at
the
moment
to
try
and
resolve
issues
around
the
site
being
on
the
green
belt
and
balancing
that
argument
against
the
decarbonization
argument
as
well
and
finally,
there's
then
the
distribution
network
operator
northern
power
grid.
This
is
probably
the
most
complex
and
time-consuming
element
of
preliminary
activity.
It's
just
additional
work
that
needs
to
be
coordinated
with
the
schools
again
happening
outside
of
term
time.
D
Ideally,
it
negates
power
downs
for
the
upgrades
to
take
place.
There's
a
massive
amount
of
trench
in
digging
sybil's
work
taking
place
on
roads
nearby,
other
schools,
one
school
we're
actually
having
to
go
directly
through
one
of
their
playgrounds,
so
that
again
needs
to
be
coordinated
and
managed
from
a
health
and
safety
perspective
with
with
people
being
on
site.
D
I
referred
briefly
to
solve
for
schools
on
the
previous
tab.
I
thought
yeah.
It
might
be
worth
just
going
into
a
bit
of
detail
for
how
we're
working
with
them.
So
solver
schools
are
a
third
sector
organization,
so
completely
not
for
profit
and
the
way
their
business
case
works
and
the
way
the
school's
business
case
works
is
that
we,
the
council,
contribute
80
of
the
capital
cost
for
the
solar
panels.
Upfront
via
the
grant
funding
application.
D
The
20
funding
gap
is
then
met
by
the
schools,
however,
rather
than
the
schools
needing
to
contribute
a
20
capital
upfront.
That's
then
spread
over
the
25-year
life
cycle
of
the
solar
panels
via
the
power
purchase
agreements
of
the
electricity
that
they're
purchasing
from
sulfur
schools.
So
so
the
schools
get
two
benefits
in
that
they
don't
need
to
pay
any
capital
up
front.
Well,
three
benefits,
even
I'm
thinking
of
them
as
I
go.
D
The
unit
price
for
electricity
is
much
lower,
purchasing
from
seoul
to
schools
than
it
is
from
purchasing
from
the
grid
and
in
addition
to
that,
they
actually
get
their
maintenance
costs
included
in
that
unit
price
that
they're
paying
as
well.
So,
as
I
mentioned
in
the
final
bullet
point
there,
some
of
the
schools
cover
the
maintenance
costs
for
each
of
the
systems,
and
they
don't
expect
any
additional
payments
outside
of
what
schools
are
actually
paying
for
their
electricity.
D
The
business
case
for
each
of
the
schools-
and
this
is
just
a
bit
of
a
kind
of
overall
summary
for
one
example
site.
So
there
is
a
business
case
behind
this
for
each
site,
and
this
is
what
we
have
to
work
out
prior
to
agreeing
to
any
work
style
and
on-site
to
ensure
that
all
sites
are
on
a
net
surplus.
D
As
people
are
well
aware,
essos
heat
pumps
bring
with
it
significant
increased
electricity
costs.
So
I
picked
this
school
as
a
decent
example,
because
the
balance
between
the
heat
pump
and
solar
is
relatively
good.
So
the
31
000
kilowatt
consumption
of
the
heat
pump
is
completely
met
by
the
solar,
that's
installed,
so
the
solar
and
the
heat
pump
balance
each
other
out.
D
The
electricity
from
the
solar
panels
is
purchased
at
a
much
lower
unit
price,
so
just
under
seven
pence
compared
to
the
fourteen
and
a
half
pence
that
is
brought
from
the
grid
up.
But
then,
where
you're
getting
the
massive
saving
for
the
school
from
is
in
that
reduction
in
gas
consumption.
So
the
gas
bill
is
reduced
by
about
five
grand
for
the
school,
so
that
leaves
the
school
at
a
differential
of
just
over
two
thousand
pound
per
year.
D
This
is
one
of
the
more
marginal
sites.
Some
of
the
schools
are
actually
looking
at
10
to
15
000
pounds
a
year
in
savings,
some
of
the
larger
sites,
that
is,
where
there's
a
large
array
of
solar
panels
on
the
roof.
So
some
of
the
schools
should
be
in
very
healthy
positions,
and
this
is
one
of
the
sites
that
doesn't
actually
have
an
led
lighting
scheme
taking
place
and
again
that
will
increase
the
improve
the
financial
position
of
the
school.
D
D
We
have
various
health
and
safety,
health
and
safety
procedures
in
place
to
ensure
that
we
are
meeting
the
highest
levels
of
health
and
safety
and
possible,
so
our
new
site
works
liaison
manager
has
got
about
20
years
of
construction
industry
experience
and
he
is
responsible
for
managing
inductions
risk
assessments
and
various
safety
audits
across
the
sites
just
to
make
it
a
little
bit
more
tangible
in
terms
of
showing
what
we're
actually
delivering
in
the
top
left.
D
You've
got
one
of
the
heat
pump
schemes
at
kermaki,
so
that
gives
a
bit
of
an
idea
of
the
scale
of
the
footprint
of
these
things.
That's
about
the
standard
size
for
the
heat
pumps
for
primary
schools
in
the
top
right.
You've
got
some
of
the
internal
works.
This
is
not
particularly
glamorous,
but
a
lot
of
new
pipe
work,
buffer
tanks,
thermal
stores,
etc.
Go
on
inside
the
building
as
well
in
the
bottom
right.
You've
got
one
of
our
solar
schemes.
D
D
This
is
the
one
we
always
like
to
show
off,
but
this
is
holly
bush
primary
school,
and
this
is
the
site
who
are
looking
at
about
15
000
pounds
a
year
in
savings
overall
from
the
decarbonization
scheme
in
the
bottom
left
again,
not
quite
as
glamorous,
but
just
as
essential
is
the
asbestos
team
hard
at
work,
doing
some
removals
in
one
of
the
plant
and
boiler
rooms
and
just
give
you
an
idea
of
how
we're
actually
progressing
on
site
as
well.
D
So
with
the
march
deadline
and
very
much
in
mind
at
all
times,
we
are
working
towards
completion
well
within
those
deadlines
for
all
technologies.
Now,
which
is
great,
the
source
heat
pump
schemes
are
nearly
50
percent,
complete
at
all
the
schools,
solar
pv,
there's.
Only
one
scheme
remaining
to
do
out
of
the
11
sites
working
out,
which
is
brilliant
and
leds,
are
just
ramping.
D
Up
now
to
complete
prior
to
christmas,
the
heat
pumps
will
be
finished
just
before
march,
solar
pv,
not
including
bardsy,
which
is
the
site
I
mentioned
earlier,
where
we
need
to
have
a
carport
installed
and
we're
currently
working
with
planning
and
solar
pv
will
be
completed
by
october,
not
with
standing
bardsy.
I
left
it
in
october
because
it
makes
us
look
a
bit
better
and
then
the
leds
will,
as
I
say,
complete
just
prior
to
christmas-
to
drop
off
from
the
decarbonization
agenda.
D
Just
briefly,
there
is
another
scheme
that
our
team
is
currently
working
on,
as
well
being
led
by
my
colleague
andy.
So
we
are
currently
working
with
the
department
for
education.
Deliver
chargepoint
pilots
in
lead
schools,
so
it
does
kind
of
tie
into
the
decarbonization
agenda
in
that
the
solar
panels
can
be
used
to
power
these
on
site
as
well.
So
access
generation
can
be
used
for
this
if
it
can't
be
used
by
the
schools
themselves.
So
dfe
are
currently
funding
this
for
a
supply
install
and
operation
program
for
three
years.
D
So
we
found
out
last
week
that
we
passed
the
first
round
of
assessment
for
an
application
for
phase
three
of
psds
and
we've
applied
for
four
and
a
half
million
pounds
of
funding,
3.3
million
pounds
worth
of
that
is
for
six
primary
school
sites
and
we're
hopeful
that
we
find
out
in
january
from
the
technical
assessment
team,
where
we
have
been
successful
or
not
the
the
difference
in
requirements
for
this
one
is
predominantly
around
the
end
of
life
boiler
requirement.
D
So
previously
you
could
apply
for
any
sites
effectively
regardless
of
the
age
of
the
boiler.
Whereas
now
it's
for
sites
where
it's
beyond
the
manufacturer's
life
cycle-
or
you
can
otherwise
prove
it's
about
to
collapse
in
on
itself,
so
that
has
meant
that
the
kind
of
part
of
sites
that
we're
actually
able
to
look
at
work
in
our
is
reduced
significantly
and
so
working
closely
with
children's
services
to
identify
those
opportunities.
D
Government
have
also
announced
the
next
kind
of
next
allocation
of
funding
for
the
psds,
which
is
1.4
billion
pound
up
to
2025..
Personally,
it's
a
bit
of
a
disappointing
number.
Considering
one
billion
pound
was
announced
just
for
phase
one
yeah
and
I'll
cover
kind
of
why
it's
a
little
bit
disappointing
and
put
that
in
context
in
the
next
slide,
as
well,
so
for
the
scale
of
future
challenge
we're
faced
with
for
primary
schools.
D
What
we
will
have
achieved
by
march
2023
if
we're
successful
in
phase
3
of
psds,
is
decarbonized
in
17
of
our
primary
schools,
which
will
be
a
great
achievement
in
the
time
scales
we've
had,
but
that
does
then
leave
111
primary
schools
in
our
state
that
our
local
authority
maintained
that
we
will
still
need
to
decarbonize
by
2030..
D
If
we
take
the
average
cost
for
the
heat
pump
and
solar
pv
schemes
at
these
sites,
it's
about
350
gram
per
site.
That
leaves
us
about
40
million
pounds
or
about
5
million
pounds
a
year
up
to
20
when
you
consider
that
government
are
offering
about
what
will
work
out
was
about
200
to
250
million
pound
or
just
up
with
that
per
year
for
psds
over
the
next
four
years.
It
does
kind
of
put
into
context
that
that
is
quite
challenging.
D
However,
one
thing
that
will
potentially
help
us
out
is
that
we
do
expect
heat
pump
prices
to
fall,
so
I've
just
included
a
brief
figure
on
what
happened
with
solar
over
the
last
decade,
which
dropped
by
about
50
in
the
uk.
So
something
similar
happens
happening
for
heat
pumps
would
be
very
much
welcome.
D
Whether
that
will
materialize
or
not
is
very
much
yet
to
be
seen.
But
yeah,
as
I
say,
would
be
very
welcome.
So
the
grant
schemes
are
pretty
much
going
to
be
essential
at
this
stage
to
unlock
a
decarbonization
project,
because
the
payback
at
the
moment
is
upward
of
30
years.
In
some
instances,
it's
upward
of
40
years
and
yeah-
the
costs
at
this
stage
are-
are
very
high
for
heat
pump
schemes.
So
the
more
money
government
can
make
available
the
better.
D
As
a
team
anytime
funded
becomes
available,
we
will
be
working
very
hard,
as
polly
knows,
to
to
get
bid
submitted
on
time
to
secure
as
much
funding
as
possible
to
yeah
meet
our
2013
ambitions
and
that's
all
I
had
slides-wise,
obviously
more
than
happy
to
take
any
questions.
Anyone
had
or
yeah
explain
any
points
in
more
detail.
If
people
needed
that
too,
that
was.
A
From
the
presentation
now
as
well
lovely,
thank
you
that
was
excellent
and
comprehensive
yeah.
If
you
start
sharing
screens,
I
can
get
back
to
gallery
review
that'll
be
fantastic.
Oh,
I
can
see
myself
talking
at
the
same
time,
disturbing
all
right
thanks
for
that
I
mean
it
yeah
I
mean
just
just
to
comment
from
me.
I
mean
the
we're
talking
about
scale
and
mobilization
resources
and
when
the
psds
was
announced,
1.4
billion
to
2025
I
mean
that
was
really
disappointing.
A
I
mean
it
should
be
multiple
billions
per
year
on
a
year,
one
year
sustained
basis
to
get
anywhere
near
where
we
need
to
be,
and
it's
not,
which
is
concerning
so
colleagues
we've
heard.
A
lot
from
from
jonathan
has
never
got
any
questions
or
points.
Do
you
want
to
raise
regarding
the
scheme?
I
do
particularly
like
because
joe
said,
the
hollywood
scheme.
I
think
it
will
demonstrate
what
you
can
do.
I
think
in
just
in
terms
of
when
we
say
payback
bear
in
mind.
A
L
A
K
Thank
you,
chair
yeah.
I
just
your
point
about
the
carbon
saving.
Is
it's
really
important,
however,
when
you're
running
a
school's
budget,
you
cannot
afford
to
take
that
kind
of
risk.
You
know,
and
that
sometimes
might
which
is
unfortunate,
and
I
just
love
more
money
to
be
pumped
into
well
everywhere.
Generally
speaking,
yeah,
I
just
want
to
say
how
incredibly
impressive
it
is.
It's
a
very
small
team
that
polly
leads
and
joe
and
nelson,
and
it's
just.
K
I
went
to
see
john
charles
on
thursday
in
the
rain
was
it
thursday,
joe
and
yeah,
it
was
yeah
and
it's
all
merging
into
one
and
it's
and
although
the
boiler
room
might
not
be
the
most
glamorous
of
places,
it
was
really
really
impressive
and
clean
and
neat-
and
you
know
I'd
be
happy
to
have
that
in
my
house.
K
If
it
it
wasn't
as
big,
but
just
a
huge
thank
you
and
hugely
impressive
about
all
that
carbon
saved
all
that
all
those
schools
and
those
pupils
and
what
they'll
learn
as
well
from
this
process
and
and
the
kind
of
like
benefit
tune
from
you
know
this
dark
decarbonization.
So
just
huge.
Thank
you.
D
Thanks,
council
hayden,
I
would
just
say
as
well
appreciating
that
it's
myself
nas
emma
and
polly
that
work
work
on
this
scheme.
I
just
say
that,
as
a
council,
we
have
done
very
well
in
kind
of
pulling
other
services
in
so
you
know
the
property
teams,
children's
services,
asset
management
and
leeds
building
services
has
been
a
massive
effort
from
across
the
council,
so
yeah
just
to
just
to
say
that
as
well.
But
yeah
thanks
consultant.
K
Yeah
you're
right,
but
your
team
and
it's
a
very
small
team,
lead
on
it,
but
yeah
a
huge
thanks
to
all
those
other
directorates
and
teams
that
have
allowed
this
well
enabled
this
to
happen.
Yeah.
B
Much
councillor
illinois,
thank
you
chair.
I
may
have
missed
this.
I
didn't
pick
it
up
when
you're
doing
the
presentation.
Why
are
we
using
air
source
pumps
for
schools?
I
can
understand
in
many
situations,
grounds
are
supposed
to
be
physically
impossible
and
you've
got
obvious
choice,
but
it
just
took
me
the
most
primary
schools
there's
a
fair
amount
of
open
space
around
them
vertical
ground
source
pumps
seem
to
be
very
much
an
option
and
a
bit
more
resilient
in
terms
of
performance
and
and
deficiency
and
so
forth.
D
Yeah,
a
lot
of
it
can't
trailing,
work
comes
down
to
time
and
cost
so
from
my
understanding
is
that
the
cost
associated
ground
source
is
generally
a
lot
higher
than
that
associated
with
the
air
source,
and
we
also
have
the
difficulty
associated
with
time
scales.
So
the
detailed
design
process
for
the
heat
pumps
would
take
us
kind
of
through
the
summer
period.
The
summer
period
is
the
best
time.
D
Well,
almost
the
only
time
really
that
ground
source
heat
pump
schemes
can
almost
be
properly
implemented
in
a
school
environment,
and
then
you
then
have
the
combined
issue
of
the
deadlines
from
government
where
we
have
to
deliver
by
march
of
next
year.
So
you
almost
only
get
one
summer
period
where
you
can
actually
deliver
the
work.
D
I
completely
agree
that
ground
source
would
be
something
that
we
would
really
want
to
look
at
for
school
sites
and
again
it's
not
to
kind
of
blame
government
for
anything,
but
if
they
had
a
more
a
bit
of
a
longer-term
view
on
kind
of
deadlines
for
these
projects
to
be
delivered
within,
then
it's
something
we
could
definitely
look
to
achieve.
It's
something
we'd
like
to
look
at
for
other
sites
as
well.
D
You
know
in
the
corporate
state
not
just
looking
at
primary
schools
but
yeah,
unfortunately
time
and
cost,
as
is,
as
is
often
the
issue
with
grant
funding
is
kind
of
what's
restricted
us
here.
Unfortunately,
we
are
looking,
however,
to
complete
site
surveys
for
a
number
of
primary
schools.
Our
contractors
have
agreed
to
kind
of
do
some
work
at
risk
on
those
sites,
and
we've
asked
them
to
kind
of
keep
keep
the
option
open.
D
We're
hopeful
that
if
they
can
start
to
do
some
of
the
design
work
now
at
risk,
we
may
be
in
a
position
where
we
can
deliver
a
ground
source
scheme
over.
You
know
it
may
not
be
phase
three,
maybe
phase
four
or
phase
five,
but
it's
it's
definitely
something
we'd
be
keen
to
do.
B
A
B
It's
a
it's
a
separate
scheme
for
social
housing.
Basically,
so
it's
a
different
government
department,
but
for
whatever
reason,
we've
managed
to
well
they're
working
on
the
site.
Now
it's
a
glorious
forest
of
large,
drills,
great
fun,
big.
A
E
A
Understood
right,
council,
heartbroke
and
then
council
buckley.
C
Yeah,
just
one
quick
point
and
quick
question:
I
noticed
you
mentioned
one
of
the
schools
was
kind
of
very
much
on
the
on
the
balance
in
terms
of
costing
and
without
having
one
cost
of
a
thousand
pounds
a
month.
I'm
guessing
that,
if
that
those
numbers
would
really
run.
Even
the
energy
prices
were
all
paid
today,
that
might
be
a
different
calculation.
D
Yeah,
admittedly,
when
it
comes
to
the
whole
life
cost
element
of
the
scheme,
you
know
things
are
changing
so
quickly
at
the
moment
that
there's
almost
it's
almost
hard
for
us
to
update
our
business
cases,
because
things
are
fluctuating
so
quickly,
and
I
imagine
it
may
be
a
scheme
that
we
can
bring
forward
within.
You
know
the
next
year
and
it
has
got
the
advantage
of
having
the
design
elements
already
kind
of
completed
and
we
can
just
kind
of
resubmit
as
an
oven,
ready
bid
so
that
that
would
be
good,
yeah.
C
Yeah
there's
just
one
question
on
the
sell
back
of
the
energy,
because
obviously
schools
are
great,
not
the
thing
for
solar,
because
you
know
the
time
of
peak
demand
is
when
you've
got
peak
occupancy,
which
is
really
really
really
good.
What
happens
out
of
term
time?
Does
the
electricity
that's
still
generated,
gets
sold
back
to
the
grid
and
does
that
money
go
back
to
the
schools.
D
Yeah
so
think
so
for
x,
the
access
generation
that
then
goes
into
seoul
for
schools,
so
they're,
the
first
sector
organization
that
manage
it
that
is
used
to
develop
further
schemes
for
them.
It's
used
to
cover
off
the
maintenance
costs
for
the
school
as
well.
So
all
the
maintenance
requirements
of
the
solar
panels
are
fully
covered
fully
covered
by
the
price
that
the
fully
covered
by
the
school
page.
Oh.
D
C
D
They
own
the
electricity
surplus,
exactly
yeah
yeah,
so
the
panels
are
actually
owned
by
sulphur
schools
rather
than
the
school,
but
yeah.
All
the
schools
are
supportive
of
that
kind
of
that
way
of
working
and
I've
signed
up
to
the
power
purchase
agreement
on
that
basis,
yeah
because
of
the
benefits
they're
seeing
during
during
term
time.
E
Well,
I
think
it's
probably
worth
just
adding
the
sale
of
the
schools
is
not,
I
can't
think
of
the
correct
term
at
the
moment,
unless
you
can
remember
what
type
of
company
is,
but.
E
That
was
the
one
thing,
and
so
basically
that
means
that
schools
are
represented
and
so
that,
if
you
know
if
they
over
recovered
through
the
electricity
that
then
can
go
back
to
the
actual
schools
as
a
payment,
so
that
you
know
if
we
had
excess
coming
in,
because
the
electricity
prices
went
up
in
the
market
and
solar
for
schools.
Don't
get
that
financial
benefit
spread
out
across
all
their
partners,
so,
which
is
why
it
was
an
attractive
company
to
work.
With,
from
our
point
of
view,.
B
Yeah
thank
you
chair,
but
it
was
just
really
about
a
similar
point
really
joe
mentioned,
that
payback
is
expected
over
30
years
and
obviously
there
are
some
pretty
general
assumptions
made
about
costs
and
so
on.
It's
a
long
time,
30
years,
if
it
comes
to
pass
when
this
thing
is
up
and
running
in
in
the
schools
properly.
B
D
So
what
the
approach
we've
taken
for
all
heat
pump
schemes
for
phase
one
of
psds
is
for
a
hybrid
system.
So
we
are
installing
src
pumps
to
be
the
primary
heat
source.
D
However,
gas
boilers
are
also
retained
on
site
as
well,
so
the
prop
the
the
heat
pumps
as
the
primary
source
take
on
about
80
to
85
percent
of
the
heat
and
demand
for
each
of
the
sites,
depending
on
the
type
of
building
and
then
during
the
the
kind
of
times
you've
referred
to,
where
the
frost
is,
you
know,
on
the
ground
and
it's
absolutely
freezing
outside
the
gas
boiler
step
into
take
on
the
peak
demands,
so
you've
still
got
full
redundancy
with
regard
to
both
top-up
and
peak
demands
from
the
gas
boilers.
D
But
in
addition
to
that,
the
capacity
of
the
gas
boilers
that's
retained
is
sufficient
to
provide
the
full
heat
and
demand
as
well
for
the
site,
so
not
just
the
peak
loads.
So
in
instances
that,
for
any
reason,
the
heat
pumps
were
to
completely
go
offline
and
the
gas
boilers
would
then
step
in
to
take
on
the
heat
demand
of
the
site
that
what
that
also
does
is
gives
us
not
just
flexibility
in
you
know
times
where
the
heat
pumps
may
be
struggling
with
getting
enough
warm
air
from
outside.
D
But
what
that
also
gives
us
is
flexibility
at
times
where
electricity
prices
are
going
through,
the
roof
and
gas
is
remaining
relatively
constant.
If
they're
looking
at
running
at
quite
a
negative
or
taking
on
quite
a
negative
hit
from
those
costs,
we
can
just
switch
the
heat
pumps
off
and
turn
it
over
to
gas.
It
wouldn't
be
ideal,
obviously
from
the
climate
emergency
perspective,
however,
for
primary
schools
as
it's
them,
that
runs
their
own
energy
bill
and
it
is
kind
of
up
to
them.
If
that's
the
decision
they
want
to
take.
D
Fortunately,
as
I
say,
we
are
running
at
quite
large
surpluses
for
most
of
the
site,
so
we're
not
sure
that
would
ever
be
needed,
but
if
it
is
needed
at
any
stage,
that
is,
that
is
an
option.
We've
got
as
well,
and
that
applies
to
the
corporate
sites
too.
So
as
a
council,
we're
kind
of
fully
insulated
almost
from
if
you'd
excuse
the
bit
of
the
pun,
but
fully
insulated
from
yeah
the
market
forces
outside
in
that
way
as
well.
If
we
wish
to
be.
E
Chancellor
warshaw
can
I
just
add
something
to
that
answer.
So
a
couple
of
things.
So
the
point
about
the
not
using
the
heat
pumps
just
to
say
the
way
that
we've
seen
gas
prices
going.
That's
very,
very
unlikely
to
ever
happen,
especially
with
the
way
that
the
government
are
now
choosing
to
they're,
looking
to
kind
of
load,
some
of
the
renewable
costs
onto
gas
rather
than
electricity.
E
So
you
should
start
to
see
energy
prices
working
in
in
favor
of
electricity
rather
than
gas,
which
will
help
prevent
that
scenario
and
but
also
just
to
say
that,
in
terms
of
the
way
of
still
having
that
top-up
gas,
basically
with
the
time
scales
that
we
had
and
the
funding
criteria
we
couldn't
put
in
full
contingency,
so
we
couldn't
put
in
double
the
amount
needed
in
case
an
air
source
heat
pump
broke.
There
wasn't
the
finance
there
and
it
wouldn't
have
been
good
resource
when
you
think
about
embedded
carbon.
E
So
we
were
better
to
leave
the
gas
boilers,
but
we
also
have
the
opportunity
now
to
have
a
look
at
how
those
air
source
heat
pumps
work
and
to
have
a
look
at
the
thermal
efficiency
of
those
buildings
and
to
see
whether
there
are
specific
spots
where
they
struggle
with
just
air
source,
heat
pumps.
And
so
it's
part
of
sort
of,
I
suppose,
almost
doing
this
as
a
pilot
to
have
a
look
at
without
leaving
the
school,
with
any
issues
to
really
see
how
these
technologies
work
in
operation.
E
A
M
Thanks
polly,
thank
you
chair.
Can
you
hear
me?
Okay,
yep
good
morning
councillors,
it's
nice
to
be
able
to
address
the
committee
again
on
today
of
all
days
as
the
un
climate
change
conference
gets
underway
in
glasgow,
I'm
here
today
to
provide
an
update
on
work
undertaken
by
the
council
and
partners
to
support
delivery
of
climate
education
to
children
and
young
people
in
leeds.
M
So
hopefully
members
will
recall
my
introduction
of
the
climate
action
route
map
also
referred
to
as
the
calm
for
schools
and
settings
initially
brought
to
your
attention
at
a
previous
sea
at
meeting
on
the
18th
of
january,
that's
now
been
finalized
and
has
also
been
complemented
by
a
summary
plan
on
a
page
that
is
hopefully,
let's
have
a
look
showing
on
your
screens
now
harriet.
Can
you
pop
that
up?
Are
you
able
to
put
that
up?
What
do
I
need
to
share
my
screen.
F
Sorry,
stephen,
I
think
the
document
is
in
members
of
gender
packs
as
appendix.
M
So,
at
the
time
of
the
sea
at
meeting,
members
will
remember
that
we
agreed
all
lead.
Schools
and
settings
should
be
issued
with
a
copy
of
the
cam
to
support
senior
school
leaders
and
chairs
of
governors
to
provide
high
quality
climate
education
in
schools.
M
M
So
it's
a
bit
too
early
to
be
able
to
provide
a
definitive
position
on
uptake
of
the
calming
leads
schools.
But
I
would
like
to
draw
members
attention
to
some
anecdotal
information
on
the
actions
of
one
of
our
schools
at
south
floyd
primary
school,
whose
deputy
head
teacher
recently
shared
with
me.
What
his
school
is
doing
following
his
head
teachers
folding
a
copy
of
the
cam.
M
M
M
The
neighbors
may
also
be
interested
to
know
that
a
cross-service
meeting
was
convened
early
in
september,
comprising
the
health
and
wellbeing
service.
Child
friendly
leads
voice
influence
and
change
team
and
the
sustainable
energy
and
air
quality
team
to
focus
on
coordination
and
communication
to
schools
of
cop
26
information
so
as
to
avoid
overburdening
of
confusing
schools
and
the
health
and
wellbeing
service
agreed
to
oversee
the
strategic
coordination
of
communication
of
cop
26
with
schools.
A
I
N
We
must
ensure
that
future
generations
are
resilient
and
empowered
to
embrace
change
in
a
world
increasingly
affected
by
divisive
politics
and
in
an
education
system
dominated
by
culture
of
attainment.
It
can
be
hard
for
young
people
to
grapple
with
our
present
global
challenges,
but
we
also
have
the
largest
generation
of
youth
the
world
has
ever
seen,
and
things
are
starting
to
change.
N
We
have
international
agreement
on
how
we
can
tackle
global
challenges
set
out
in
the
un's
sustainable
development
goals.
Young
people
are
mobilizing
articulating.
Their
fears
and
campaigning
for
change
and
ofsted
are
placing
greater
emphasis
on
developing
a
broad,
rich
and
deep
curriculum
at
leeds
development
education
centre.
We
understand
that
teachers
and
young
people
can
feel
overwhelmed
when
it
comes
to
addressing
the
complex
and
often
controversial
nature
of
global
challenges.
N
We
know
how
time
consuming
it
is
for
teachers
to
research
topics
such
as
climate
change,
migration
and
inequality,
and
summarize
the
key
knowledge
that
young
people
need
to
know,
and
we
know
that
young
people
can
feel
disempowered
when
global
challenges
are
presented
as
insurmountable
problems,
rather
than
opportunities
for
individual
and
collective
action.
With
a
long
history
of
supporting
teachers
and
young
people
to
address
contemporary
global
challenges.
N
We
do
this
by
offering
training,
consultancy
and
workshops
supporting
curriculum
development
and
working
with
partners
in
schools
locally,
nationally
and
internationally
to
create
change
together.
The
issues
that
we
face
as
a
global
community
are
complex
and
can
be
difficult
for
young
people
and
adults
to
understand
using
the
sustainable
development
goals.
As
a
starting
point,
we've
produced
bite-size
overviews
on
some
of
the
common
challenges
that
could
jeopardize
the
future
well-being
of
people
in
the
uk
and
across
the
world.
Global
learning
is
often
compartmentalized
or
taught
on
days
when
subject
curricular
has
been
put
on
hold.
N
Increasingly,
the
economic
processes
that
caused
climate
change
cannot
be
solved
by
individual
countries
acting
alone.
Our
global
learning
toolkit
will
help
you
foster
mindsets
that
enable
young
people
to
confidently
engage
with
the
global
interdependencies
that
are
shaping
our
lives
and
choices.
Our
resources,
workshops
and
training
can
help.
Young
people
make
choices
that
have
a
positive
impact
on
their
lives,
the
lives
of
others
and
the
planet
that
we
all
share.
I
I
just
told
you
fantastic,
okay,
yes,
past
a
few
things
that
stephen
mentioned,
so
our
website,
which
I'll
put
a
link
to
in
the
chat,
maybe
in
the
pack
already
I'm
not
sure
and
but
houzz
is
a
range
of
fantastic
resources
that
have
been
created
in
partnership
with
other
ngos,
with
professors
at
leeds
university,
earth
and
environment
school
for
earth
environment,
and
they
include,
first
of
all,
a
set
of
big
ideas,
which
is
almost,
I
suppose,
some
bite-sized
overviews
of
the
different
areas
around
climate,
education
and
climate
change,
and
that
a
partner
we're
partnered
with
a
set
of
learning
outcomes.
I
I
And
if
you
have
a
look
on
the
website,
you'll
see.
There
are
some
lessons
here
where
these
very
specific
climate,
education
learning
outcomes
have
been
integrated
with
the
current
science
curriculum
at
different
key
stages.
So
it's
a
little
example
of
how
it
can
be
used
within
it.
We've
also
managed
to
now
extrapolate
this
into
a
full
climate
curriculum
which
enables
students
and
teachers
to
see
progression
across
the
key
stages.
So
again,
in
a
similar
format,
you'll
see
there's
different
areas
within
those
areas.
I
You
can
move
across
the
key
stages
and
see
where
people
should
be
by
the
end
of
year,
eight
or
by
the
end
of
year,
nine
etcetera.
Obviously,
people
are
starting
at
all
different
points,
but
if
people
started
in
a
primary
school
now,
then
hopefully
this
would
they
would
move
through
the
key
stages.
This,
of
course,
is
always
subject
to
change.
I
We
realize
that
we
realize
that
things
are
changing
very
very
quickly
and
therefore
it's
a
live
documents
living
document
that
we
will
change
regularly
in
accordance
with
with
the
new
side,
new
reports
etc,
and
we've
also
got
within
that
within
the
same
website,
you'll
see
a
link
to
our
cpd
online
course
for
teachers.
I
That's
for
both
primary
and
secondary,
and
this
gives
you
a
really
great
overview
of
the
situation
with
climate
at
the
moment
with
time
education
at
the
moment
and
also
enables
teachers
to
have
a
look
at
some
some
lessons,
some
ideas
about
how
to
integrate
some
fun
education
within
their
teaching-
and
this
is
a
blended
learning
course
that
we
do
through
a
series
of
webinars
we've
already
we're
working
with
a
series
of
schools
over
in
ottawa
at
the
moment,
and
we've
worked
with
about
250
teachers
across
the
country
and
and
many
in
scotland
actually
as
well,
and
to
have
a
look
at
this
course
and
to
develop
people's
knowledge,
and
it's
been
incredibly
successful
so
far.
I
This
is
something
that's
available
to,
obviously
all
leads
teachers
that
there
is
a
cost
to
it.
Unfortunately,
because,
obviously
we
are
a
small
ngo
and
we
do
need
to
sustain
ourselves
in
some
way,
but
I
don't
think
the
costs
are.
You
know
I
think
they're
really
reasonable.
So
again,
I'll
send
all
this
information
across
and
if
it
could
be
shared
that
would
that
would
be
fantastic.
I
We've
also
got
to
add
to
what
stephen
was
talking
about
with
we've
got
a
sort
of
overview
of
what
schools
can
do
to
so
as
whole
school
planning
template,
if
you
like,
and
that
includes
what
they
can
do
with
the
infrastructure
of
the
building,
with
their
curriculum,
with
with
the
kitchens
with
food,
sustainability
and
food,
because
all
of
those
kind
of
things
as
well,
so
a
really
useful
document
to
allow
school
leaders
to
be
able
to
plan
for
a
full
club
education
which
might
sit
with
what
stephen
was
mentioning
earlier.
I
So
in
conclusion,
if
you
just
bear
with
me,
one
second
we'll
bring
this
up.
I
All
schools
across
leeds
have
access
to
this
through
our
website,
so
the
set
of
big
ideas
which
the
bite
size
overviews
a
suite
of
lessons
where
they
can
see
how
we've
integrated
some
of
these
learning
outcomes
very
much
into
subject-specific
curriculum.
We've
done
this
because
we're
all
ex-teachers
we're
all
aware
that
often
this
kind
of
education
is
not
taken
seriously
and
on
drop-down
days,
etc.
In
a
cultural
attainment
where
people
are,
you
know
really
trying
to
get
results.
Those
days
are
not
taken
seriously.
Often.
Therefore,
integrating
it
into,
for
example,
maths,
science,
etc.
I
I
think
it
really
gives
it
the
gravitas
that
it
needs
at
the
moment,
but
obviously
it
being
policy
which
we
know
would
make
a
huge
huge
difference
and
we've
also
then
got
this.
Let's
say
I'll.
Just
go
back
one
climate
curriculum
that
schools
and
academies
can
use
across
primary
inter-secondary
to
assess
their
approach
across
key
stages
and
the
whole
school
planning
template
that
I
just
mentioned,
along
with
a
blended
learning
cpd
course
available
for
all
teachers.
I
One
last
thing
I
just
think
worth
mentioning
in
my
other
role,
I
run
a
third
set
organization
over
in
seacroft
and
at
the
moment
we've
just
launched
with
with
our
councillors
and
residents
and
local
authority
workers
councillors,
their
school
representative
representatives,
a
climate,
a
community
climate
education
course
which
will
run
in
the
new
year
where
we've
got
different
groups
and
in
each
group
we'll
have
a
representation
from
the
sectors
that
I've
just
mentioned,
including
residents
where
we
work
through
some
workshops,
with
the
idea
of
again
improving
confidence,
knowledge
around
climate
change
and
climate
education,
climate
action,
but
also
we
will
have
the
power
in
the
room
if
you
like,
to
identify
opportunities
to
take
action
within
communities.
I
So
with
the
people
from
housing
there,
like
I
said
there
will
be
local
councillors,
there
will
be
third
sector
organizations
with
specific
funding
around
climate
action,
people
from
the
climate
hub,
so
that's
quite
an
exciting
opportunity,
which
is
very
place
based
and
place
specific
and
somewhere,
like
seacroft,
with
a
slant
around
climate,
justice
etc
as
well.
I
just
thought
that
might
be
worth
sharing
at
the
moment,
particularly
as
obviously
we
have
counselors
with
us
this
morning
who
might
be
interested
in
looking
at
something
like
that
within
their
areas.
I
I
know
a
short
time
so
I'll
leave
it
there.
That's
it
for
me.
A
Thanks
to
you
both
yes,
chris
I
mean
it
is
particularly
important
and
new
development.
I
think
it
is
in
places
like
seacroft,
where
we
we
need
to
get
our
message
across
and
I
think
in
areas
like
that
is
about
stressing
people
that,
yes,
the
issues
are
daunting,
but
this
is
also
a
huge
opportunity
for
a
whole
new
raft
of
of
jobs,
and
I
think
that's
important.
A
K
Hayden,
sorry,
it's
not
really
a
question,
but
just
as
somebody
who
would
we
used
to
I,
my
former
professional
job
was
part
of
it
was
to
coordinate
pshce
in
my
high
school
where
I
worked
and
it
is
incredibly
difficult
to
get
those
kind
of
non-assessed
non.
You
know
value-added
in
the
in
the
grade
kind
of
terms,
subjects
you're
to
be
taken
seriously
and
I
I've
banged
my
head
against
the
wall
on
you
know
kind
of
mental
well-being
and
and
climate
stuff
and
all
citizenship
stuff,
all
all
kinds
of
things.
K
So
I
think
this
looks
like
an
incredibly
good
plan
and
you
know
you
have
my
full
support
and.
K
I
can
do
in
that
kind
of
regard.
I've
taught
the
ethics
of
a
level
as
well
as
well
as
gcse
and
the
further
down
the
school
so
of
climate
justice,
and
things
like
that.
So
do
getting
do
get
in
touch.
I
Thanks,
can
I
say
that
that's
really
useful?
That's
that's
great
yeah.
I
think
I
think
you're
absolutely
right,
and
I
think
this
is
just
too
important
to
to
to
remain
in
that
way
within
schools,
and
we
have
found
that
our
feedback
so
far
the
schools
that
have
taken
it
on
it
has
worked
really
well
and
when,
when
you
see
the
different
departments
using
it,
and
then
they
see
the
same
focus
across
the
departments
and
they
take
it
seriously,
I
I
think
it's
been
successful
in
that
regard,
but
obviously
promoting
it
locally
to
lead.
A
You
should
yeah,
I
totally
agree
and
truly
it's
a
really
good
way
of
engaging
kids.
It
is
the
number
one
issue
for
children
aged
between
sort
of
10
and
10
and
18.
I
was
looking
at
some
yuge
of
data
the
other
day
and
it's
like
you
know,
that's
a
way
of
reaching
them
and
to
transfer
all
sorts
of
skills
to
build
up
their
skills
across
the
piece,
but
through
this
this
topic
lens.
I
think
that
would
be
good
yeah.
So,
as
as
the
cancellation
we
really
like
support
as
much
as
we
can.
K
I
We
have
that
initial,
as
always
when,
when
people
hear
about
it
and
heads
or
heads
here
about
it,
it's
that
initial
this
is
fantastic.
We
need
to
do
this,
but
ultimately
it
gets
lost
because
it
goes
into
the
main
system
and
scouts
saying
says:
the
pressure
everywhere
is
so
difficult
until
it's
made
policy
until
actually,
schools
are
measured
against
it.
It's
a
really
difficult
fight
because
that's
got
to
be
through
good
will
and
not
actually
through
the
system,
and
therefore
it
is
a
difficult
battle.
C
Right,
thank
you
very
much
and
thank
you
for
the
presentation,
as
one
who
has
also
was
in
the
education
system.
Currently
I'm
as
a
chair
of
governors
as
well,
but
also
having
done
eco
schools
for
a
few
decades.
C
I
Yeah,
that's
that's
a
really
great
idea,
I
mean
actually
we
partly
run
a
social
action
course
at
the
moment
with
with
lee
city
college
and
a
big
element
of
that
is
around
climate
action,
but
we
again
we
found
it
difficult
because
of
the
rigors
of
mainstream
education,
but
I
think
that
idea
of
making
it
accredited,
possibly
in
a
local
sense
as
part
of
the
leads
goal
to
become
carbon
neutral
by
2030,
might
be
a
much
sort
of
more
flexible,
more
versatile
way
of
doing
that.
I
A
F
Thank
you
so
much.
I
just
wanted
to
offer
my
support.
If
there's
anything,
I
can
do
as
a
wheatwood,
counselor
and
also
just
I've
got
three
teenagers
who
are
all
very
passionate
about
this
subject
and
and
their
friends,
and
I
just
wanted
to
raise
the
kind
of
emotional
side
of
it
and.
C
Scale
of
climate
issues
can
be
just
emotionally
overwhelming
and
really
impact
young
people
in
that
way,
so
just
making
sure
that
the
teaching
leaves
space
and
the
lessons
leave
space
for
kind
of
young
people
to
voice
those
concerns
and
how
it
kind
of
makes
them
feel
just
is
a
really
important
part
of
it.
That's
that
there's
space
for
that
in
the
lessons
and.
C
Little
bit
so
just
yeah,
the
emotional
side
of
it
is
really
important.
I
Thanks
councilman
yeah,
there
is
a
whole
section
within
the
climate
curriculum
and
the
big
ideas
and
on
the
online
learning
platform
for
teachers
all
about
well-being.
So
it
really
does
address
that
idea
of
how
it
sticks
with
young
people
how
the
the
emotional
intelligence
surround
that
and
so
yeah
that's
been
a
really
sort
of
well-developed,
well-thought-out
area.
So
hopefully,
that's
considered
within
the
within
the
resources.
M
And
also
council
of
flint,
just
to
reassure
it
is
something
that
we've
referenced
in
the
climate
action
route
map
in
terms
of
the
mental
health
impact
of
the
doom
and
gloom
approach
to
the
climate
emergency.
We
need
really
to
be
emphasizing
the
positive,
the
small
steps,
the
contributions
that
children
and
young
people
can
make
that
overcomes.
That
kind
of
approach
to
to
this.
It's
really
important
to
do
it
in
such
a
way
and
be
careful
of
the
language
that
we
use.
Yeah.
C
A
Him,
no
thanks!
Sorry,
I
didn't
want
to
speak
over
you,
sorry
yeah.
I've
noticed
my
eldest
is
15
and
he
sort
of
swings
from
being
incredibly
down-hearted
and
like
nervous
about
all
of
this,
then
incredibly
optimistic
because
he'll
hear
me
banging
on
about
some
new
technology
or
something
or
or
trees
that
have
been
planted
on
that
sorry
that,
but
that
swing
in
itself
is
indicative
of
where
a
lot
of
young
people
are.
I
think
so.
Yeah
there's
a
lot
to
be
done.
C
A
Yeah
and
I
agree
completely
yeah:
let's
do
that
so
wrapping
up
on
a
more
of
a
higher
note,
should
we,
as
a
committee,
send
a
lovely
letter
to
southwood
primary
for
what
they've
been
doing.
I
think
that
was
fantastic,
so
we'll
put
I've
seen
lots
of
national
members,
so
we'll
dress
something
up
and
send
it
out
and
with
everyone's
signatures
on.
If
that's,
okay,
I
think
that's
just
the
kind
of
engagement
we
want
to
see
very
heartwarming.
Is
there
anything
else
we
need
to
cover.
I
Can
I
just
ask
sorry
casper
what
what
what
what
would
be
the
best
way
for
me
to
communicate
some
of
this?
Obviously,
I
can
send
the
the
link
to
the
website
etc,
but,
looking
at
the
community
climate
training
as
well
that
we're
doing
in
seacroft
with
with
currency
with
councillor
dye
and
council
jenkins,
it's
the
way
of
sort
of.
What's
the
best
format
of
me,
sharing
some
of
that
information.
That's
been
done
through
some
some
well-being
funding
over
there.
Actually,
maybe
something
that
that
members
are
interested
in.
A
Anything
you
want
to
communicate
to
us,
send
to
harriet
and
then-
and
if
that
requires
coming
to
talk
to
us
again,
further
fantastic
or
us
to
go,
see
what
you
guys
are
doing
that
kind
of
thing,
let's
just
communicate
through
harriet
that'd,
be
great.
Thank
you,
lovely
right
folks,
really
interesting
sessions
this
morning
because
of
an
awful
lot
of
ground.
The
next
meeting
is
we're
bringing
two
attention
next
meeting
13th
of
december
at
10
30
and
we're
in
civic,
because
it's
a
special
meeting
to
consider
our
annual
report
for
council.
A
So
we
do
have
to
debate
and
vote
on
that.
So
we
have
to
be
in
person.
Sorry
about
that.
What
can
I
do?
That's
what
the
law
says.
So
is
anyone
going
to
any
other
business
they
want
to
raise
nope
okey
dokey
well,
keep
an
eye
on
cop
26..
We've
got
two
weeks
of
the
jamboree,
hopefully
there'll
be
some
really
positive
outcomes
of
it.
I
think
listen
to
the
people
who
are
talking
about
keeping
warming
them.
It's
1.5
degrees
to
keep
that
in
the
game.
They're
the
serious
people.
A
Anyone
not
talking
about
that.
I
suggest
we'd
rather
avoid,
but
we
do
really
need
to
be
looking
for
serious,
it's
going
to
say
concrete,
but
it's
a
really
bad
material
to
reference
and
really
got
to
climb
it,
but
we
do
need
to
see
definite,
serious,
meaningful
proposals
and
serious
financing
of
these
things,
because,
as
we've
observed
from
our
work
over
the
next
few
last
few
months,
colleagues
in
leeds,
we
very
much
know
what
we
need
to
do,
but
the
resources
to
do
it
are
lacking.
A
So
it
comes
full
circle
to
where
we
started
in
this
meeting
in
that
the
scale
of
mobilization
yet
is
nowhere
near
where
it
needs
to
be
and
we're
at
about
the
limit
of
what
we
can
mobilize
locally,
and
I
think
that's
the
if,
if
councils
of
all
stripes
could
communicate
that
to
parliamentarians,
that'd
be
most
welcome.