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A
Welcome
to
this
remote
hearing
of
the
licensing
subcommittee,
my
name
is
abigail
marshall
captain
and
I
will
be
sharing
today's
hearing
before
I
proceed
further.
Could
I
remind
everyone
in
today's
meet
that
today's
meeting
is
being
streamed,
live
on
the
city
council's
youtube
channel?
Could
I
ask
the
following
members
of
the
subcommittee
to
kindly
introduce
themselves
council
buckley.
B
Yes,
good
morning,
council,
neil
buckley
or
woodley
ward.
A
A
Even
though
members
of
the
panel
are
in
remote
attendance
while
items
today
can
be
fully
discussed,
as
is
usual,
remote
attendance
requires
a
few
slight
changes
as
to
how
I
will
manage
the
debate.
Therefore,
can
I
ask
all
attendees
to
mute
their
microphone
unless
I
invite
you
to
speak,
this
will
invite
avoid
disruption
from
any
background
noise.
A
Can
all
participants
please
keep
their
cameras
on
during
this
hearing,
and
that
is
very,
very
important,
please.
I
would
like
to
emphasize
that
all
participants
will
be
invited
to
introduce
themselves
at
the
start
of
the
hearing
to
make
it
clear
to
the
public
observers
who
will
be
involved
in
today's
proceedings.
A
D
A
F
Sorry
about
that
my
name
is
carl
richards,
I'm
the
applicant,
I'm
the
vice
chairman
of
trigger
internal
delay,
club.
E
E
Yes,
I
agree
all
right.
Thank
you
under
agenda
item
number
two.
There
are
no
appeals
against
the
refusal
of
inspection
of
documents
under
agenda
item
number.
Three:
there's
no
exempt
information
on
the
agenda
today
under
agenda
item
number:
four:
there
are
no
late
items.
As
such,
there
was
some
supplementary
information
sent
in
the
form
of
an
additional
representation
to
the
application.
A
C
Thank
you
councillor.
Our
usual
procedure
for
the
this
type
of
application
is
that
the
the
applicant
addresses
the
the
subcommittee
first
and
then
any
other
parties
who
have
indicated
an
intention
to
speak
at
the
hearing
then
address
the
community,
and
then
the
applicant
has
the
chance
to
respond
to
anything
said
by
the
other
parties.
C
C
Our
usual
time
limit
is
15
minutes
per
party.
The
applicants
may
wish
to
split
their
allocation
between
their
initial
presentation
and
response
to
any
other
party,
for
example,
10
minutes
initially
in
five
minutes.
At
the
end,
I
understand
in
this
case
that
there
aren't
any
of
the
other
parties
present
today.
C
C
C
Did
you
want
to
split
it
up
to
have
a
sort
of
first
presentation
followed
by
questions
and
then,
if
you
like
us
summing
up.
C
You
want
to
do
the
latter,
so
are
you
do
you
know
how
many,
how
long
you're
likely
to
to
spend
in
each
one,
because
obviously,
you've
got
15
minutes
in
total.
C
C
C
Cross-Examination
plea:
please
know
that
we
do
not
permit.
Cross-Examination
subcommittee,
probably
doesn't
apply
here
anyway,
but
if
any
party
feels
there
is
a
crucial
question
that
needs
to
be
asked
and
answered.
Please
please
do
not
ask
the
person
directly,
but.
C
Make
a
request
through
the
chair
who
will
determine
whether
or
not
the
question
should
be
put
parties
may
request
permission
to
call
witnesses?
Can
I
ask
if
the
applicant
wishes
to
call
any
witnesses
today.
C
Would
you
be
wanting
mr
benson
to
speak
at
all.
F
C
Thank
you
and
all
documents
that
have
been
submitted
have
been
copied
and
circulated
to
the
subcommittee
in
advance.
Can
I
just
confirm
that
we
all
have
the
same
original
pack
should
consist
of
76
pages.
In
addition,
this
should
also
be
a
four
page
supplementary
pack.
C
You
all
got
that
it
will
be
helpful
when
referring
to
documents
to
identify
which
document
you're,
referring
to
by
by
its
bundle
page
number.
Additional
documents
may
now
only
be
tabled
with
consent
of
all
the
parties.
Mr
richards,
do
you
have
any
other
documents
or
items
that
you
wish
to
table
this
morning?.
C
C
Therefore,
if
you
could,
please
remain
in
the
meeting
until
you're
asked
to
leave,
all
the
parties
will
be
informed
once
the
hearing
is
is
ended
and
will
be
advised
the
decision
in
writing
within
five
working
days
of
today.
A
D
So,
in
summary,
the
application
is
made
for
the
sale
by
retail,
of
alcohol
for
consumption,
both
on
and
off
the
premises
sunday
to
thursday
from
10
a.m,
until
11,
30
p.m
and
friday
and
saturday
from
10
a.m,
until
1
30
a.m.
The
following
morning
also
proposed
is
the
performance
of
recording
music
and
live
music
sunday,
thursday
from
10
a.m,
to
11
00
p.m
and
then
friday
and
saturday
from
10
a.m,
until
1
30
p.m.
D
Sorry
am
the
following
morning:
a
redacted
version
of
the
application
has
been
attached
to
appendix
a
on
page
11
of
the
report,
and
additionally,
the
applicant
has
also
completed
the
pro
forma
risk
assessment
to
demonstrate
the
steps
that
they
are
willing
to
take
to
uphold
the
licensing
objectives.
A
copy
of
this
can
be
found
at
appendix
b
on
page
27
of
the
report.
D
The
application
is
attracted
representation
from
west
yorkshire
police
in
their
capacity
as
a
responsible
authority.
A
copy
of
the
representation
by
the
police
is
included
at
appendix
d
on
page
45
of
the
report,
and
the
representation
in
this
instance
saw
further
clarification
of
the
use
of
the
external
area
in
response
to
their
representation.
The
applicant
has
supplied
a
revised
plan
that
was
provided
to
the
licensing
subcommittee
members
by
ebill
on
the
24th
of
august.
D
The
new
plan
clearly
differentiates
the
areas
to
be
used
for
the
sale
by
retail
of
alcohol
and
consumption
and
the
external
area
to
be
used
for
the
consumption
of
alcohol.
Only
receipt
of
the
revised
plan
has
resulted
in
west
yorkshire,
police
withdrawing
their
representation
after
the
agenda
was
originally
published,
and
the
matter
of
the
police
representation
is
no
longer
a
matter
for
members
consideration.
D
What
does,
however,
remain
for
members
consideration
is
the
receipt
of
15
representations
from
residents
who
will
pause
the
application,
largely
on
the
grounds
of
public
nuisance.
Two
of
those
representations
receive
from
members
of
the
public.
I've
expressed
concerns
that
they're
at
risk
of
retribution
and
their
personal
details
have
been
redacted
throughout
the
whole
application
process.
D
Redacted,
copies
of
the
representations
can
be
found
appendix
e
on
page
55
of
the
report,
and
additionally,
it
has
become
apparent
that
single
representation
received
during
the
consultation
period
was
omitted
from
the
report
when
it
was
produced,
and
this
has
now
been
included
as
supplementary
information
for
members
attention.
D
F
Thanks
very
much
chair
just
doing
my
videos
to
myself.
My
name
is
carl
richards,
I'm
the
vice
chairman
of
triggering
rugby
league
club.
I've
been
a
volunteer
there
for
30
years,
and
I
also
have
a
personal
license,
which
is
what
we're
applying
underneath
a
little
bit
about
the
club's
history.
We
were
established
in
1973,
a
community
amateur
sports
club.
That
means
we're
unconstitutionally
we're
not
allowed
to
make
any
profit
all
profits
we
do
make
is
plowed
back
into
either
sport
or
the
building
to
support
that
sport.
Currently
the
start
of
2020.
F
F
Obviously,
the
club,
the
only
people
that
get
paid
at
the
club
presently
are
the
bar
manager.
We
it
takes
over
200
volunteer
hours
a
week
during
our
club
in
season.
So
it's
a
massive
undertaking
on
our
behalf.
F
Currently
we
are
previously.
We
ran
from
the
triggmington
rugby
league
club.
We
bought
that
building
in
1997.
it
was
an
old
working,
men's
club
been
run
down.
It
was
an
old
building.
We
totally
refurbished
it
mainly
using
members
labor,
certainly
peter,
and
I
remember,
being
up
on
the
roof.
Taking
the
roof
off,
it
was
a
hell
of
a
day,
so
we've
spent
a
lot
of
time
and
effort
into
that
building.
F
Unfortunately,
it's
an
old
building,
it's
not
cost
effective,
and
it
has
limited
ways
that
we
can
support
the
support,
as
in
generating
revenue
and
the
club's
been
hand
to
mouth
for
the
last
10
years.
It's
been
a
struggle
to
stay
afloat
at
times
financially
peter,
as
the
treasurer
has
brought
down
the
most
of
that
you
used
to
have
a
nice
black
head
of
hair
he's
all
grown
like
the
rest
of
us
about
well.
In
2011,
leed
city
council
announced
that
there
were
close
in
the
local
community
center.
F
F
F
We
sold
our
our
club
and
the
council
bought
our
club
and
have
since
sold
it
to
a
developer,
we're
not
sure
who,
but
every
penny
we
made
from
that
club
has
been
invested
in
into
the
myth.
What
is
the
meeting
hall
everybody
regards
as
the
meeting
hall?
F
Basically
210
000
pounds
we've
invested
in
the
building
completely
refurbished
it
it's
due
to
open.
In
a
couple
of
weeks
it
has
partially
opened
slimming
world
club
started
on
tuesday
this
week
and
women's
institute
were
back
a
week
on
thursday.
F
It's
not
just
a
rugby
club.
You
know
our
aim
was.
We
could
have
gone
from
our
old
club
and
just
gone
to
the
new
building
and
just
run
it
exactly
the
same
as
we
have
for
the
last
28
years,
but
we
didn't
want
that.
We
want
it
to
be
used
as
a
community
center.
We
believe
that
we
can
run
it.
We
will
staff
it.
We
have
a
business
plan
that
how
to
fund
it-
and
you
know
just
to
give
you
an
interest.
F
These
people
are
absolutely
committed
to
coming
back
to
running
from
the
meeting.
Also,
we
have
the
local
parish
council,
so
their
public
meetings,
their
clerk,
will
be
based.
There,
we've
created
an
office
for
her
driglington,
dolly's
the
women's
institute.
I
showed
round
the
building
last
night
and
they're
back
a
week
on
wednesday.
F
F
F
F
Moving
on
to
the
objections,
you
know,
we
fully
understand
that
the
the
residents
fears,
I
think
part
of
those
fears,
come
out
of
a
perception
that
the
building
is
a
community
center
and
shouldn't
be
run
as
a
pub.
Unfortunately,
we
need
to
run
it
as
a
pub
to
be
able
to
generate
the
income
to
support
all
those
other
organizations.
F
All
those
other
organizations
will
pay
just
10
pound
an
hour
for
the
use
of
the
building,
a
commercial
rate
for
for
the
function.
F
Room
is
nearer
25
pounds
an
hour,
but
we
want
to
keep
it
cheap,
so
local
community
is
an
asset
to
local
communities
and
I
think
it's
the
perception
of
one,
a
rugby
club
and
two
that
the
building
was
a
community
asset
and
it's
been
given
to
a
private
group
of
people,
but
I
think
also
that
you
know
I
think,
hopefully
the
panel
can
realize
that
it's
not
just
a
business
to
us.
F
I
think,
looking
at
the
objectives,
I
think
we
go
back
to
when
we
applied
for
our
first
license
in
our
current
premises,
which
was
1997,
we
have
three
local
residents
who
were
vehemently
against
was
having
a
license,
even
though
it
had
been
a
work
in
men's
club
for
many
years
we
were
in
court
back,
then
it
was
a
little
bit
different,
but
we
were
in
court,
then
for
three
or
four
days
and
we
got
had
a
probationary
licence.
F
This
meant
we
had
to
close
at
half
10
and
it
cost
us
a
lot
of
money.
Now,
since
that
day
that
probationary
license
was
granted.
We
never
had
one
complaint
regarding
licensing,
not
one
in
28
years,
the
local
residents
they
had.
They
complained
about
our
kids
and
we
dealt
with
those
kids.
You
know
that
that's
that's
kids,
but
regarding
licensing
they
never
had
a
problem.
F
Never
had
one
complaint
from
those
three
people
that
were,
and
they
were
adjacent
one
was
actually
adjoined
to
the
building
and
two
others
lived
at
the
back
of
the
building
and
in
in
all
those
years
we've
had
no
police
visits.
You
know,
I
know
I
lived
in
the
in
triglinton
for
23
years
and
I
know
that
we're
the
only
ones
that
can
say
that
we,
we
ran
a
very
tight
ship.
F
So
at
the
end
of
that
of
the
the
you
know,
the
the
process
it
turned
out
that
they,
their
fears
were
unfounded
and
we
do
believe
that
a
lot
of
this
is
is
the
same.
I
think,
once
we
get
open
we'll
be
approved
to
these
people,
that
we
can
run
this
place
and
not
be
a
nuisance
to
them.
The
systems
we've
put
in
in
place
and
proposals
will
help
considerably.
F
F
Continue
some
of
the
funeral
teas
that
we
already
do
in
our
own
building
now
for
funerals
at
11
o'clock.
You
need
to
be
ordinary
10
o'clock.
We
need
to
be
up
at
that
time.
We
have
no
intention
of
opening
at
10
o'clock
every
morning,
we're
not
with
the
films.
It's
not
what
we're
about.
F
So
on
that
we
had
our
meeting
last
night
and
we
would
be
happy.
I
think
you
get.
The
panel
can
apply
almost
any
conditions
they
want.
If
that's
the
case,
we
will
be
happy
on
a
school
day
not
to
walk
until
three
o'clock
in
our
license.
Not
have
a
license
feel
free
unless
it's
for
a
funeral
and
if
that's
in
your
your
power,
instagram
we'd
be
quite
happy
at
that
the
130
license.
F
You
know.
A
lot
of
people
have
said
that
you
know
it's
in
a
residential
area.
Every
pub
in
our
village
is
in
a
residential
area.
Every
pub
in
our
village
has
a
house
closer
than
what
we
have,
and
you
know
it
is
a
residential
area.
We
can't
move
that,
but
compared
to
a
lot
of
others,
it's
a
lot
further
away
from
residents
than
some.
F
F
Having
said
that,
I
don't
expect.
We've
had
this
license
on
at
our
own
club
for
many
years
now,
and
we
virtually
never
open,
certainly
on
a
friday
later
than
11
o'clock,
but
we
need
to
be
when
we
move.
We
need
to
be
able
to
generate
the
income
to
support
the
building
and
when
you
look
around
the
other
pubs
in
the
village,
you've
got
two
two
at
one
o'clock,
two
at
half
one
and
two
at
two
a.m.
F
So
I
think
you
know
we're
only
asking
for
what
all
the
businesses
in
the
in
our
village.
We
want
parity
with
them.
F
If
you
hired
a
building
for
a
function,
most
people
now
don't
want
to
be
leaving
at
11
o'clock.
Most
people
expect
to
be
able
to
drink
till
1
am
now
it's
been
said
on
some
of
the
objections.
It'll
be
2
and
then
the
bar
will
close
at
one
o'clock.
F
F
You
know
in
our
business
plan
the
the
function
room
is
probably
the
biggest
thing
that
the
village
needs
there
isn't
anywhere
in
the
village
where
you
can
have
a
private
function,
even
in
our
club.
We,
our
members,
would
allow
we
had
a
quite
a
lot
of
functions,
but
members
were
allowed
to
come
in
at
the
same
time,
which
isn't
ideal,
but
we
believe
there's
an
asset
to
the
village.
It
needs
that
function
realm.
That
late
license
is
critical
for
that
functioning.
On
being
operational.
F
And,
to
be
honest,
that's
about
it
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
questions,
we're
just
trying
to
provide
a
service.
Yes,
it's
a
business,
but
it's
a
business
with
a
community
base.
Every
penny
goes
back
into
the
community
in
somewhere
and
it
isn't
just
about
rugby
thanks
very
much
for
your
time.
A
B
Yeah
thanks
chair
and
thanks
for
mr
richards,
because
it
was
a
comprehensive
explanation
of
his
application
and
very
clear.
So
I
would
thank
him
for
that.
B
I
had
lots
of
questions
written
down,
some
of
which
you've
already
answered
in
your
presentation,
but
if
I
can
ask
two
or
three
and
I'll
you've
got
your
colleague
there
making
notes.
So
perhaps
if
I
just
ask
you
two
or
three
and
then
when
I've
asked
them,
no
doubt
you'll
be
able
to
deal
with
them.
The
first
one
was
if
the
application
was
refused.
B
How
would
that
affect
your
business
plans
in
the
sense
that
you
mentioned
people
who
were
hiring
the
rooms
and
so
on,
and
the
presence
of
the
parish,
council
and
so
forth?
But
if
the
application
was
refused,
how
would
that
affect
the
ongoing
viability
of
the
of
the
whole
project?
That's
the
first
question.
B
Secondly,
it's
a
picture
that
nobody
in
the
object
has
has
seen
fit
to
attend
this
virtual
meeting
today,
because
one
of
the
phrases
that
was
written
down
there
was
this
phrase:
fear
of
reprisals.
It's
quite
an
alarming
phrase,
and
people
use
things
like
this,
sometimes
but
I'd.
I
just
like
the
applicant
to
address
that
and
perhaps
put
our
minds
at
rest
there
and
then.
Finally,
at
the
moment,
capacity
of
the
premises.
B
F
The
first
one
regarding
if
the
license
would
be
refused,
certainly
a
lot
of
the
users
that
I
mentioned,
don't
need
a
bar
where
it
would
impact
massively
is
our
income
streams
in
the
build
at
the
moment
where
we
are,
we
have
the
bar
income
and
we
have
membership
incomes.
F
One
of
the
biggest
reasons
for
taking
over
the
meeting
hall
was
to
have
that
private
function
facility
and
alongside
that,
we
will
be
opening
a
community
cafe
as
well.
We
were
hoping
that
the
local
library
would
come
back
in
and
they've
decided
not
to
so
we
had
some
space,
so
we
decided
there's
a
need
for
a
community
cafe.
F
So
how
would
it
impact
if
we
don't
get
a
license?
It
will
put
us
out
of
business,
because
the
income
that
we
need
from
the
the
licensing
is
is
critical
to
support
everything
it's
in
the
business
plan.
It's
only
one
part,
but
if
we
don't
have
that
income
to
support
the
death,
the
the
users
that
were
thinking,
we
would
have
to
put
all
the
price
to
a
commercial
rate
for
them.
At
25
pound
an
hour,
they
can't
afford
it.
F
So
it's
critical,
we
have
a
license,
you
know
without
it
the
the
whole
scheme
doesn't
work.
Fear
of
reprisals.
Well,
we've
never
intimidated
anybody.
I
you
know
between
peter
and
I
myself,
we're
quite
old
now
and
we've
never
had
any
problems
at
all.
You
know
we
had
two
three
adjacent
neighbors
that
were
vehemently
against
us.
You
know
right
at
the
start
and
they
became
friends.
You
know
we
were
doing
things
for
them
if
they
had
a
problem
within
the
kids.
F
People
look
as
if
they
go
we're
a
rugby
club.
We're
not
you
know,
they're,
just
out
knocking
seven
bells
out
of
each
other
every
week
in
which
we
do,
but
we
have
very
little
trouble
off
the
field.
You
know
and
that's
what
the
game's
about
and
now
games
about
discipline
and
they
will
under
no
circumstances
will
we
intimidate
anybody.
F
F
F
We've
in
the
function
room
we've
invested
in
banqueting
tables
and
I've
bought
100
seats
and
we've
got
10
tables
and
for
so
sportsman's
dinners
we've
got
the
capacity
for
100
people
in
the
function
room
that
bad
area.
I
would
think
we'll
have
a
capacity
about
40.,
but
in
general
it's
not
well.
We
hope
it's
going
to
be
busier.
We
need
it
to
be
busier.
F
You
know
that's
why
we're
going
for
a
normal
license
around
a
club
license,
because
the
people
in
the
village
have
expressed
quite
a
lot
of
interest.
You
know
I
mean
a
friend
of
mine
who
has
some
played
for
me
for
quite
a
few
years,
never
comes
in
our
club
and
she
can't
wait
to
bring
the
dog
and
go
for
the
walk
and
come
to
the
new
one,
because
it's
nice
premises,
you
know,
we've
invested
heavily
and
you
know,
and
that's
about,
does
that
answer
the
question
on
capacity
yeah.
A
Thank
you
very
much,
mr
richards.
Have
you
got
any
further
questions,
mr
buckley,
on
on
what
you
have
no
okay,
excellent.
Thank
you
councillor.
Wenham,
no
questions
he's
answered
my
questions
in
the
presentation,
so
I'm
quite
happy
with
it
now.
Okay,
mr
richards,
what
I
would
like
to
ask
you,
you
know
with
your
10
o'clock,
opening,
obviously
being
that
it's
very
close
to
a
school.
I
know
you
said
you
do
not
intend
to
open
every
day
at
10
o'clock.
F
Through
the
week
yeah
through
the
week,
but
we're
happy
whenever
the
school's
open,
so
that
leaves
us
open
for
like
christmas
or
anything
like
that
whenever
the
school's
open
we're
happy
to
not
have
a
license
until
three
o'clock
as
long
as
it
is
a
provision
that,
if
it's
a
funeral,
we
can
open
now
yeah,
we
could
go
down
the
ten
streets
of
that.
But
looking
at
the
amount
of
interest
at
the
local
funeral
directors,
we're
likely
to
use
all
our
tens
up
just
in
funerals,
and
we
don't
want
to
be
tied
to
that.
F
But
yeah
we've
no
intention
at
all
to
open
monday
to
friday
at
10
o'clock
unless
there's
a
funeral,
but
we
have
to
put
it
in
the
application
because
I
thought
that's
the
only
way
it
could
be
done.
Yeah,
you
guys
have
the
power
to
say
to
us
right.
You've
got
a
three
o'clock
license,
but
if
you
have
a
funeral,
you
can
open
it.
Ten,
I'm
happy.
A
B
Just
just
one
chair,
if
I
can
explain
just
to
address
the
the
whole
noise
issue
and
people
typically
complain
about
taxes,
cars
drying,
up
doors
being
slammed
and
all
that
kind
of
thing,
and
so
that
really
is
the
first
question:
what
measures
are
in
place
to
mitigate
that?
But
secondly,
you
have
the
the
outdoor
area
where
people
are
potentially
going
to
be
also
congregating
now.
Is
that
just
a
summer
thing?
B
F
Present
what
we
have
and
we'll
transfer
all
our
members
are
asked
to
wait
inside
the
building.
Until
the
taxes
arrive,
we
try
to
have
a
preferred
taxi
service.
Obviously
we
can't
dictate
that,
but
if
we
are
asking
for
a
tax,
we
have
one
company
that
we're
in
and
they
know
not
to
come
and
pack
the
horns
and
everything
else
they
just
pull
up
and
we
we
let
people
out
as
their
taxi
arrive
and
our
members
are
used
to
that.
F
Obviously
we're
not
just
going
to
have
our
members,
so
it's
about
education,
educating
the
members
of
public
that
come
in.
We
will.
Our
staff
are
used
to
that
system
and
we
have
had
no
complaints
whatsoever.
Our
present
building,
that's
that
works
for
us
regarding
the
outside
space,
the
outside
the
the
other
thing
on
that
is
apart
from
the
function
room
is
at
the
front
of
the
building
our
bar,
which
will
be
used
every
day.
The
functioning
room
will
be
used.
F
Occasionally
the
bar
the
bar,
which
we'll
build
every
night,
is
at
the
back
of
the
building
so
actually
but
looks
out
over
the
more
so
it's
the
opposite
side
of
the
building
to
any
residence
whatsoever.
So
noise
in
the
bar
itself
just
won't
be
a
problem
whatsoever
managing
it
as
really
we've
got
systems
in
place.
F
The
outside
area
we've
said
we're
happy
for
that
to
be
licensed
until
10
o'clock.
Now
so
again,
at
a
club.
Now
everybody
has
to
be
in
the
club
by
10
o'clock
so
that
it
doesn't
impact
on
residents.
F
But
again
the
outside
area
is
at
the
back
of
the
club,
actually
overlooking
the
moor.
So
we
don't
see
that
as
a
major
issue.
You
know
we've
invested
in
cctv.
There
are
13
cameras
both
inside
and
outside,
which
is
far
more
than
we.
We
don't
have
cctv.
Our
present
club
and
we've
listened
to
what
the
licensing
requirements
are.
We've
done
our
best
to
fulfill.
A
Excellent
any
further
questions.
Yes,
I
would
like
to
ask
a
question:
okay,
what
about
the
live?
Music?
F
To
be
honest,
we
didn't
think
we
needed
a
license
for
loud
music
for
live
music.
It
was
my
misunderstanding.
In
the
last
12
months,
we've
had
five
bands
on
and
they
they
again
will
run.
The
music
will
stop
at
one.
If
we
get
granted
the
license
along
with
the
bar
will
close
the
music
catcher
with
the
stop
will
probably
stop
the
music
at
half.
12.
shut
the
bar
at
one
everybody
out
by
half
one,
but
it's
not
massive
in
our
our
plans.
B
Sure
yeah
you
obviously
the
whole
thing
is,
is
based
on
the
community
and
that
kind
of
thing
now
just
explain
to
us
how
on
one
hand,
you
don't
want,
obviously
any
under
18
with
access
to
alcohol,
but
on
the
other
hand,
you
want
families,
presumably
so
how?
How
will
that
work.
F
We
know
our
own
kids,
we
know
how
old
they
are
because
they
sign
on
so
our
stewardess
has
been
with
us
for
15
years
took
over
from
me,
and
she
knows
virtually
every
kid.
We
will
have
the
challenge
25
system
in
place,
so
any
kids
that
we
don't
know
will
be
challenged
so
from
us
from
a
family
environment
it'd
be
very,
very
safe.
F
We
also
have
two
child
protection
officers.
Already
we,
we
are
family
friendly.
We
have
only
50
adult
members,
but
you
know
over
300
social
medias
of
the
social
members
are
parents
of
kids
that
are
playing.
So
you
know
we
we're
all
about
the
kids.
We
have
kids
parties,
that's
what
we're
here
for
really
the
adults
they're
the
end
result.
You
know
this,
I'm
now,
I'm
now
coaching
grandkids
of
people
that
I
coached.
A
Any
supplementary
questions:
counselor
buckley,
all
right
counselor
when
thank
you
very
much
members
and
thank
you
very
much,
mr
richards
and
the
subcommittee
will
now
move
into
a
private
session
to
deliberate
on
the
application.
Could
I
ask
that
all
parties,
including
the
applicant
and
the
licensing
offices,
remain
available?
Should
the
subcommittee
have
any
additional
questions?
A
C
Just
I
just
wanted
to
check
the
we've
you've
had
mr
richard's
presentation
and
the
questions
did
he
did
he
want
a
final
address
to.
C
A
F
F
The
perception
is,
it's
a
community
asset.
It
has
been
for
many
years,
that's
what
it
was
built
for.
We
want
to
take
it
back
to
that,
but
we
need
the
license
to
do
that.
We
just
want
to
be
competitive
with
other
pubs
in
our
village.
You
know
we
only
want
the
same
as
they've
got
a
level
playing
field.
We
have
support
from
all
the
other
users
there
over
a
thousand
people
between
all
those
organizations
we'll
be
using
the
meeting
hall.
The
parish
council
are
giving
our
full
support.
F
They
had
initial
fears
about
the
1
8
1
30
a.m.
Once
I'd
explained,
we
had
a
meeting
they've
given
us
now
giving
us
their
full
support.
All
our
ward
councillors
have
been
under
on
board
since
day
one
since
they
started
to
close
it
down.
They
realized
where
we
were
coming
from
and
what
our
aims
were.
We
worked
really
closely
with
our
world
councillors.
Every
single
one
of
them
gives
us
that
support
and
we've
had
28
years
of
running
the
bar
with
no
problems.
We
don't
see
why
we
should
be
penalized.
A
Thank
you,
mr
richards.
Okay,
we'll
now
go
into
the
private
session,
so
you
can
use
a
few
minutes
to
have
a
cup
of
tea.
Whilst
we
are
in
our
session,
I
will
be
right
back
so
over
to
you,
mr
booth,.
E
E
A
A
A
A
Our
technology
is
feeling
the
weather
today,
so
yeah
councillor
buckley
is
back
on
council
box,
who
were
just
telling
mr
richards
that
we
just
need
to
seek
further
clarification
from
him.
So
over
to
you.
B
Yeah,
it
was
just
clarification
please
in
the
original
application
you
mentioned
sunday
to
thursday
10
until
23
30
friday
to
saturday
10
until
1
30.
B
in
your
in
your
presentation
and
in
answer
to
some
of
our
questions,
you
did
say
that
your
normal
intention
would
be
to
effectively
stop
serving
at
at
11
o'clock
in
the
week
and
on
friday
and
saturday
at
1
o'clock,
and
that
the
music
from
bands
would
finish
at
12
30.,
and
we
just
wanted
to
clarify
that.
That
was
your
intention,
so
that
effectively
pulls
back
the
hours
by
about
half
an
hour.
F
Well
correct:
I'm
a
bit
confused
because
originally
I
applied
for
a
1am
license,
and
I
was
told
that
by
the
licensing
officer
that
we
would
need
to
for
drinking
up
time,
we
would
need
to
make
it
1
30..
So
our
intention
was
always
to
close
at
1
o'clock,
but
because
you
got
drinking
up
time,
she
advised
us
to
make
it
1,
30.
A
Yeah
excellent,
thank
you
very
much
councillor
winner,
that
those
clarified
my
question.
Yes,
okay
right,
so
thank
you,
everyone
for
your
patience
and
for
attending
this
hearing,
despite
the
weather.
So
that
brings
us
to
the
close
of
business,
our
business
today,
mr
richards,
we
will
be
in
communication
with
yourself.
You
receive
a
letter
from
the
council
in
five
working
days,
so
thank
you
all
for
coming
and
have
a
lovely
day.
Thank
you.