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A
If
I
can
start
in
my
usual
way,
I'm
councillor
jim
mckenna
and
I
will
be
chairing
today's
meeting.
Can
I
ask
the
clerk
now
to
switch
on
the
webcaster
stage?
John.
Thank
you.
A
Could
I
just
remind
everybody
we
were
holding
this
meeting
in
a
way
that
is
covered
secure,
so
please
feel
safe
where
you're
sitting
and
in
accordance
with
social
discipline
guidelines,
which
means
everyone
present,
is
appropriately
spread
out
and
has
been
allocated
a
specific
seat.
Today's
meeting
is
being
live
streamed
on
the
city
council's
youtube
channel
so
that
the
public
can
observe
the
meeting
without
needing
to
be
present.
A
City
plans
panel
deal
with
applications
from
the
city
center,
as
well
as
the
largest
and
most
significant
application.
The
council's
received
the
aim
of
the
panel
is
to
hear
all
the
relevant
information
from
applicants.
Members
of
public
council
officers
to
help
members
of
the
panel
make
their
decision.
A
Could
I
now
invite
members
and
officers
to
introduce
themselves
and
mute
your
microphones
once
you
have
done
so?
Can
I
start
on
my
left
with
dalget?
Please.
B
A
F
Hello
chair,
I'm
councillor,
sharon
hamilton,
I'm
subbing
today
for
councillor
garp
wave
and
I
represent
me
with
a
motown
ward.
G
Afternoon,
everybody
counseling
the
wall
show
heading
in
hyper
award.
B
Good
afternoon
my
name
is
louise
foote,
I'm
the
technical
support
manager
and
I'll
be
in
charge
of
the
powerpoint.
J
L
Cullen,
councillor
colin
campbell
really
excited
to
be
back
in
the
six
and
seven.
I'm
really
pleased
the
90-minute
rules
finish,
so
we
can
all
pick
as
long
as
we
like.
I
J
I
A
Thank
you,
john
moving
on
to
agenda
item
six,
which
is
the
minutes
of
the
meeting
held
thursday
day
to
july.
That
was
the
10
30
90
minute
meeting.
A
A
I
see
not
any
matters
arising
moving
on
then
to
the
1pm
meeting
on
the
same
day,
starting
on
page
13.,
page
14,
page
15,
page
16,.
D
Thank
you.
I
was
looking
for
the
button
to
put
my
hand
up
the
in
the
a
set
of
comments
members
made
on
that.
The
second
bullet
point
is
all
around
the
the
concerns
we
had
around
the
school
there.
A
D
The
first
one
regarding
if
the
school
doesn't
come
forward,
but
the
second
one
I
think
was
around
where
the
school
was
positioned
in
the
safe
access.
I
think
that
second
point
is
quite
a
large
issue
as
well
as
the
first,
so
I
wonder
whether
those
could
one
I'd
I'd
prefer
it.
I
don't
know
if
other
members
agree
if
that
was
separated
out
into
a
separate
bullet
point,
so
they
don't
get
conflated
those
two
issues,
but
I
think
the
problem
wasn't
necessarily
around
the
pickup
drop-off
and
parking.
D
A
Okay,
I'm
not
sure
if
it
was
the
general
feeling
just
that
the
location
was
wrong,
but
it
was
discussed.
But
again
it
will
come
back
to
us
and
it's
something
to
consider.
Regarding
the
drop-off
point.
Yes,
it
was
an
issue,
but
it
was
pointed
out
at
the
meeting
that
it
wasn't
part
of
the
application
and
these
things
would
be
decided
when
that
comes
forward,
but
I'm
quite
I'm
quite
willing
to
have
a
note
put
into
that
effect.
Yep,
okay,
peter.
L
Colin,
just
picking
up
on
peter's
point,
which
I
seem
to
recall,
it
really
needs
the
the
resolved
tweaking
then.
Doesn't
it
because
effectively,
the
resolved
doesn't
in
many
ways
doesn't
quite
reflect
what
what
the
the
members
comments
were
in
my
opinion,
so
I
wouldn't
want
us
to
come
back.
I
think
we
all
agreed
with
the
layout
wasn't
quite
right
in
one
form
or
another,
and
I
wouldn't
like
it
to
come
back
with
exactly
the
same
layout.
If
you
follow
to
me.
A
A
A
A
A
Okay,
then,
thank
you
for
that.
Moving
on
then,
to
agenda
item
eight
on
page
25..
Can
I
firstly
bring
in
doujitsync
please
to
update
us.
B
Thank
you
chair.
Yes,
before
the
developers
who
are
present
here
will
present
the
proposals
to
you.
I
just
wanted
to
clarify
some
matters
and
and
update
you
on
on
further
representations
that
we
we've
received.
The
the
report
refers
to
basement
accommodation.
B
B
The
other
clarification
that
I
wanted
to
make
was
that
paragraph
7.1
9
of
the
report
implies
that
7
of
the
total
units
will
be
provided
as
affordable
housing.
However,
this
is
a
bill
to
rent
proposal
and,
although
the
developer
has
indicated,
they
can
meet
our
affordable
housing
requirements
in
full.
B
Based
on
our
current
proposals,
members
will
be
aware
that
they
there
there
is
a
a
level
of
flexibility
in
the
options
that
could
be
chosen
and
as
yet
the
the
developers
have
not
confirmed
which
option
they
would
like
to
take.
So
I
just
wanted
to
clarify
that
element
and
then,
in
terms
of
in
terms
of
the
update,
since
the
report
was
published,
we
have
received
a
representation
from
the
directors
of
the
city
island
management
company.
B
This
is
a
residential
management
company
for
a
block
of
flats
city
island
which
is
sited
across
the
river
and
canal
to
the
northeast
of
the
development
site.
They
state
that
they
have
no
issue
in
principle
with
the
construction
of
residential
buildings,
but
they
are
objecting
to
the
emerging
details.
B
Their
concerns
summarized
are
that
there
has
been
no
consultation
or
publicity
in
relation
to
the
proposals
that
the
proposed
buildings
are
significantly
taller
than
the
city,
island
development
and
other
buildings
in
the
surrounding
area
and
therefore
will
be
overbearing
that
there
are
no
additional
amenities
coming
along
with
the
development
such
as
gp
surgeries,
child
care
facilities,
shops
and
bars
to
to
facilitate
and
serve
the
increased
residential
population
they
have
raised.
Concerns
about
is
insufficient,
green
space
being
provided
on
the
site
and
the
need
to
protect
the
local
wildlife
ecology.
B
They've
also
pointed
out
that
the
development
has
potential
to
detract
from
the
appearance
of
several
listed
buildings
in
the
area.
They
point
to
the
the
monk
bridge
fire
duck,
the
saint
anne's,
lock
the
roundhouse
buildings
and
towel
works
buildings,
as
particular
heritage
assets
to
to
take
into
account
and
request
that
english
heritage
are
are
involved
in
are
consulted
on
the
proposals
they
also
raised
concerns
about
traffic
generation.
B
They
think
that
the
cumulative
development
on
the
former
doncaster
monkey
site
this
scheme,
along
with
the
other
schemes
that
have
been
consented,
will
generate
excess
capacity
for
the
road
network
and
finally,
they
point
to
noise
disruption
and
the
potential
for
disturbance
during
the
construction
period.
B
B
Members
can
take
their
own
view
following
the
presentation
on
the
emerging
design
and
the
timescape
impact
of
that
in
terms
of
the
detailed
issues
have
been
raised
about
noise
disruption,
the
impact
of
traffic
generation
and
and
the
requirement
for
consultation.
I
do
remind
members
this
is
a
pre-application
proposal
at
formal
application
stage.
We
would
undertake
the
normal
publicity
requirements,
statutory
requirements
and
we
would
look
at
detailed
aspects
such
as
the
need
for
any
appropriate
noise
conditions.
B
A
Thank
you
for
bringing
those
list
of
objections
before
us.
I
have
to
say
it's
extremely
rare
that
we
have
at
this
stage
to
actually
have
to
consider
such
matters,
which
rightly
belongs,
as
you
say,
for
a
full
application
apart
from
design
and
layout,
but
we
have
noted
it
and
I'm
sure
we
shall
hear
more
as
develop
the
plans
develop.
If,
indeed
to
do
so
with
that,
then
can
we
invite
the
applicants
to
present
their
preamp
to
us?
A
N
Good
afternoon,
everyone
I'm
ian
emerson
from
cjcc.
N
P
P
And
I'm
sorry
about
that.
Just
a
quick
introduction
to
hub
hub,
along
with
bridges,
fund
management
who
the
uk's
largest
social
impact
fund,
acquired
two
sites
on
the
latitude
development
in
december
last
year
and
site,
one
referred
to
his
latitude
purple
heights
consent
for
homes
and
we're
commencing
works
on
site
within
the
next
two
weeks.
Without
development,
it'll
be
a
built
to
rent
scheme
and
hovenbridge's
aspire
to
and
deliver
developments
we
deliver,
we
don't
just
buy
land
and
sell
it.
P
We
build
out
all
our
buildings,
but
we
have
the
aspiration
to
deliver
buildings
that
make
a
positive
social
and
environmental
impact
in
the
communities
we
work
in
we're
here.
For
the
long
term,
we
spent
many
years
trying
to
find
the
right
sites
and
leads,
and-
and
we
hope
you
like
the
developments
in
front
of
you-
the
proposals
in
front
of
you
so
I'll
pass
over
to
end
to
take
you
through
our
initial
ideas.
N
So
this
site
location
plan
we're
obviously
to
the
south
west
of
the
city,
adjacent
commercial
district,
10
minutes,
walk
into
the
station
heart
of
the
city,
center,
retail
quarter,
20
minutes
to
north
city
and
the
student
sort
of
area
of
the
city
and
next
slide.
N
So
this
is
the
current
site
at
the
moment,
fronted
down
one
side
by
the
moonbridge
viaduct,
the
cdl
scheme,
to
the
right
of
that
with
the
via
the
proposal
coming
forward
as
part
of
that
development,
and
then
this
side
sits
vacant
at
1000,
15
years
brownfield
site
next
site,
please.
N
So
this
is
the
current
consented
master
plan.
So
again,
we've
got
latitude
purple
to
the
left
which
I'll
be
delivering
on
site.
In
the
next
couple
of
weeks,
we
have
the
ground
plus
seven
office,
which
is
our
side
of
the
mountain
latitude
blue.
This
is
a
consented
office
scheme
which
mirrors
the
bam,
yorkshire,
post,
building
at
the
front
edge
of
the
site
and
then
monkbridge
cdl
scheme
to
the
north,
with
which
the
viaduct
is
part
of
next
science.
N
So,
again,
we've
got
quite
a
sustainable
location
in
terms
of
access
in
both
in
terms
of
cycles.
Pedestrians
and
vehicular
access
this
will
be
improved
with
the
opening
of
the
viaduct
and
the
link
back
into
the
wellington
place
scheme
back
into
our
site.
There's
two
stairs
that
drop
down
adjacent
to
our
site
and
bring
you
through
to
it
and
next
slide.
Please-
and
this
is
what
the
site
once
was.
This
is
monbridge
ironworks
that
existed
until
demolition
circa
15
years
ago.
N
You
know
variety
of
industrial
processes
happening
on
the
site,
iron
parts
for
various
pieces
of
industry
within
the
city,
and
next,
please
so.
We've
been
through
quite
a
lengthy
consultation
process
on
this
scheme.
We
met
with
leeds
city
council
early
in
march,
we've
met
five
times
since
then.
Various
consultation,
events
and
publication
meetings,
we've
engaged
with
the
civic
trust
and
the
canal
river
trust
and
we've
also
spoke
to
the
members
of
the
public,
twice
in
webinar
format,
obviously
due
to
covered,
and
then
we've
held
one-to-one
code,
secure,
in-person
consultations
and
next
slide
please.
N
So
this
is
the.
This
is
the
emerging
sort
of
area
with
variously
consented
schemes,
emerging
proposals
and
our
sites
have
sat
at
the
center
of
it.
We
sit
at
the
center
of
the
tall
buildings
opportunity
zone
as
outlined
in
the
spd,
fronted
to
one
side
again
by
monk
bridge
to
the
back
of
our
site
by
glacier
purple
which
we'll
develop
in
a
couple
of
weeks
time
and
then.
M
N
N
We've
tried
to
consolidate
the
buildings
so
that
you
can
open
as
much
of
the
ground
plane
as
possible.
There's
commercial
areas
planned
as
part
of
the
viaduct
and
we'll
open
it
up
outside,
so
we
can
actually
make
use
of
these
areas
and
then
the
sort
of
stepping
of
the
mass
naturally
steps
up
to
this
point
in
the
sit
in
the
area
next
slide,
please
and
that's
how
the
process
sits
adjacent
to
the
sort
of
emerging
contexts
at
the
moment.
N
Next,
please
so,
in
terms
of
platform
approaches,
it's
two
buildings
on
site
two
tool:
buildings
on
the
site.
We've
then
tried
to
get
efficient
forms,
use
as
little
footprints.
We
can
sensibly
use
we've.
Then
chanted
these
buildings
and
made
degree
of
reference
to
historic
forms
on
the
site
and
then
we've
reoriented
things,
so
we
can
look
around
each
other,
so
we've
got
key
views
and
nobody
is
compromising
some
interface
distances
or
outlook
from
their
flats
next
slide.
Please,
and
then
this
is
the
proposing.
N
This
is
the
emerging
master
plan,
so
again
latitude
purple
to
the
left
of
the
image
and
then
latitude
red.
Let's
see
blue
to
the
right
of
us,
you
can
see
here
we're
trying
to
pull
away
from
that
viaduct
as
much
as
possible
in
green
as
much
of
this
areas,
we
sensibly
can
do
effectively
to
create
public
realm,
valuable
public
realm
and
activate
the
viaducts.
You
know
this
new
pedestrian
route
is
going
to
be
vital
and
fantastic
for
the
city,
but
without
sort
of
terminus
to
it
or
a
reason
to
walk
across
it.
N
N
Next
slide,
please.
So,
in
terms
of
assessing
these
views,
we've
taken
a
number
of
views
locally
around
the
sites.
These
have
been
backed
up
with
heritage
discussion,
so
these
these
were
from
part
of
the
heritage
statement
as
well.
These
same
key
views-
if
you
go
to
the
next
slide,
please
so
this
is
the
view
down
there:
sort
of
main
pedestrian
access,
the
pedestrian
spine
that
runs
through
the
mepc
wellington
play
site
divide
up
to
the
end
of
the
site
to
the
right,
the
mongoose
development.
N
Our
scheme
just
sits
off
that
access
to
the
left
next
slide.
Please
looking
down
globe
road
looking
west
towards
the
site
so
get
living
is
inside
the
foreground
to
the
left,
we're
in
the
background
on
the
right
side
of
the
screen.
Next,
please
looking
from
whitehall
road
looking
west
towards
the
site,
the
final
block
in
the
foreground
is
the
mepc
final
part
of
the
winter
place
master
plan.
We
sit
behind
that
at
the
moment.
N
Next
slide,
please
springwell
road
looking
north,
so
you
can
see
purple
in
the
foreground
stepping
up
to
actually
blue
behind
get
living
to
the
right
next
slide.
Please,
then,
from
the
lock
gate.
Looking
back
east
towards
the
site
monk
bridge
in
the
foreground,
we'll
sort
of
start
behind
that
next
slide,
please
and
then
from
water
lane.
N
Looking
back
across
the
elevated
rail
line
back
across
get
living
with
some
tallest
elements,
the
right
of
the
screen,
another
sort
of
center
of
the
screen
behind
the
next
slide,
please
and
then
from
the
canal
sort
of
bend
of
the
canal.
As
you
come
past,
whitehall
road,
looking
back
towards
the
site
monk,
bridging
the
background
get
living
in
the
foreground
to
the
left
next
slide.
Please
we've
then
also
addressed
key
city
views,
so
city
square
use
public
space
use
to
assess
impact
from
these.
You
know
importantly,
places
in
the
city
centre.
N
Next
slide,
please
so
my
name's
square,
where
the
blue
dashed
outline,
sits
behind
the
town
hall
and
then
next
slide.
Please
park
square
again
we
sort
of
sit
in
the
shadow.
Everything
can't
be
seen
from
this
point
of
view.
Next
slide,
please
a
city
square.
We
slightly
emerge
just
there
in
the
center
of
that
image.
In
blue
and
again,
I'm
aware,
there's
a
concept
of
developments
in
the
foreground
here
recently
consented
which
may
affect
that
situation
next
slide.
Please,
the
railway
footbridge
looking
back
across
the
railway
line.
N
N
Looking
back
towards
the
site
where
the
sort
of
blue
hatch
again
behind
the
building
the
next
slide,
please
and
then
the
elevated
railway
line,
as
you
come
around
the
bend
back
towards
the
site
or
away
from
towards
the
site
and
get
living
in
the
foreground,
and
we
sort
of
pop
between
those
two
buildings
at
that
point.
N
Next
slide
please
and
then
a
view
along
the
canal.
Looking
back
towards
the
proposal
with
the
emerging
context
and
next
slide,
please
so
these
these
sections
to
illustrate
the
emerging
context,
developing
context
in
the
area
based
on
what
we've
seen
already
within
the
presentation,
so
the
top
is
moving
west
to
east.
So
again,
you
can
see
middle
mills
stepping
up
to
one
side.
N
You've
got
the
cg
scheme
in
the
foreground
dashed
then,
as
you
move
through
to
get
living,
latitude,
blue
and
then
bridge
adjacent
to
it,
you
sort
of
get
a
sense
of
this
up
and
down
the
massing.
You
know
the
taller
buildings
behind
us
and
it's
adjacent
to
us
and
we're
trying
to
sit
admittedly
at
this,
the
tournament
of
these
the
emerging
context,
but
in
a
way
that
moves
up
and
down
sensitively.
N
With
this
this
emerging
context
and
then
the
bottom
slide
is
moving
north
to
south,
so
city
center
to
the
left,
moving
back
towards
the
outskirts
of
the
city
and
the
right,
you
can
see
actually
purple
stepping
up
the
sort
of
shadow
of
watching
purple,
stepping
back
up
to
our
site,
the
foreground,
springwood
gardens
to
the
far
right
of
the
image
and
then
ceg
to
the
left.
It's
a
tall
building
next
slide,
please!
N
This
is
the
emerging
ground
floor
plane
effectively.
So
the
ideas
here
are
to
pull
away
from
the
violence
we've
discussed.
There
are
commercial
units
consented
within
the
viaduct
proposal
already,
so
we're
moving
away
from
that
to
try
and
create
public
realm.
Here
you
can
see
the
stair
tower
to
the
top
right
of
the
top
center
of
the
image.
N
It's
part
of
the
the
cdl
scheme,
which
will
bring
people
down
into
this
space,
and
the
idea
is
to
create
you
know
open
public
realm
that
addresses
these
arches
and
makes
them
viable
as
commercial
propositions
and
activates
this
space
again
down
the
canal,
we're
looking
to
pull
away
from
the
canal
and
create
eddies
and
pockets
of
space
and
bring
life
back
onto
that
section
of
the
canal,
which
currently
is
a
dead
end.
Next
slide.
Please.
N
O
So
in
developing
the
the
layout
of
the
public
realm
and
the
landscape,
we
looked
at
the
likely
ways
that
pedestrians
would
move
through
the
site
from
whitehall
through
to
the
canal
and
that's
primarily
along
the
viaduct
and
a
secondary
access
connecting
between
latitude,
red
and
blue
and
we're
also
looking
at
the
canal
side
access
how
we
get
down
to
the
lower
level
of
the
canal
and
making
sure
that
all
our
levels
work
out,
so
that
the
access
is
accessible
truly
and
we
also
looked
at
the
sight
lines
that
will
create
a
sense
of
inclusion
and
safety
in
these
public
spaces
and
that's
guided
the
development
of
the
layout.
O
O
So
that's
the
area
in
front
of
the
viaduct
which
will
offer
some
spillout
space,
the
main
circulation,
the
main
pedestrian
route
through
from
east
to
west
and
then
a
bowl,
a
lawn
and
that's
framed
by
some
mounded
planting
that
separates
the
largely
public
area,
the
predominantly
public
area.
O
From
the
forecourt
to
the
residential
buildings
and
along
the
canal,
you
can
see,
as
we
move
from
the
upper
levels
down
to
the
canal,
having
some
level
changes
from
the
podium,
terrace
immunity
down
to
the
residential
full
court,
separated
by
some
mounded
plantings
and
ecologically
oriented
planting
with
a
bowl
of
the
lawn
and
then
finally
getting
to
the
landscape
outside
the
viaducts
fill
outs.
O
And
the
two
sections
here
show
that
descent,
the
lower
section,
the
section
bb,
shows
how
we
are
prioritizing
the
pedestrian
walkway
along
the
canal,
with
some
eddy
spaces
pulling
away
from
the
canal
so
that
we
don't
have
or
to
avoid
a
conflict
of
movement
versus
resting
and
gathering
spaces.
And
then
you
see
the
level
changes
as
we
move
up
through
the.
N
Building
and
this
sort
of
key
view
of
that
central
space
as
we're
trying
to
create
it
at
the
moment
so
spill
out
space
from
the
arches
to
the
left
hand,
side
this
sort
of
front
lawn
area.
This
opens
public
space
and
then,
obviously,
beyond
that
these
active
frontages
that
sit
at
the
back
of
the
building.
Looking
back
out
to
this
space,
then
the
upper
level
terraces
looking
back
across
sites.
Next,
please,
the
upper
level
of
the
podium
space
will
have
372
cycles
about
75
percent
compared
with
our
apartment
numbers
and
plant
space.
N
So
this
would
be
accessible,
high
quality
cycling
space
with
a
bit
of
immunities,
basically
back
onto
the
canal.
Next,
please,
and
then
the
upper
level
with
the
degree
of
communal
immunity
and
terrorist
space,
terracing
back
down
to
the
route
between
latitude,
blue
and
red
and
back
down
towards
the
canal,
with
sort
of
views
back
across
the
public
space.
The
idea
is
to
create
multi-level
activity
here,
so
the
viaduct
creates
the
upper
level.
N
You
have
lower
level
activity
in
this
sort
of
central
space,
your
activity
on
the
podium
and
it
steps
up
and
down
it
greens
and
creates
a
lot
of
biodiversity
doesn't
exist
on
the
site
at
the
moment.
Next
slide
next
slide.
Please,
and
this
is
how
that
terracing
works
and
it's
a
3d
sense
and
how
we
we
envisage
the
site
sort
of
ground
plane,
moving
up
and
down.
I
think
from
this.
You
can
see
that
the
intention
to
open
up
bits
if
they
cannot
open
up
the
space
on
the
canal
and
create
use
in
there.
N
It
could
be
a
really
interesting
idea
and
a
really
interesting
way
of
activating
this
part
of
the
canal
in
a
way
that
doesn't
currently
exist.
I
think
also
we're
dressing
directly
onto
the
canal,
we're
dropping
it
onto
the
canal
level
rather
than
building
a
wall
as
the
scheme.
Next
to
us,
doesn't
latitude
red
we're
dropping
onto
the
canal
to
open
up
directly
onto
this
next
slide.
Please
and
that's
the
view
from
the
canal,
looking
back
in
towards
the
public
space
and
the
canal
frontage
next
slide,
please
so
elevationally,
we've
we've
looked
at
key
principles.
N
N
So
as
an
architectural
treatment,
we've
proposed,
something
that
is
there's
three
orders
to
it:
it's
a
primary
vertical
order,
which
accentuates
vertical
form,
there's
a
secondary,
horizontal
piece
which
creates
an
aperture
which
is
about
being
well
proportioned.
It's
about
two-thirds
to
a
third,
it's
about
windows
that
are
sensibly
proportioned
with
this
and
all
ordered
and
organized,
and
then
it's
about
creating
a
sense
of
residential
language.
It's
about
brick
and
it's
about
things
that
are
off
the
city
next
slide.
Please,
we've
done
quite
an
audit
of
the
city
centre
and
brick.
This
is
only
one
slide.
N
N
We
have
then
looked
at
amenity,
so
with
tall
buildings,
we're
looking
to
put
immunity,
private
immunity,
balconies
and
juliet
balconies,
where
they're
useful
to
residents
so
they're
not
being
affected
by
wind.
There
will
be
usable
balconies
at
sensible
levels.
This
is
then
supplemented
by
communal
immunity
and
shared
immunity
which
provides
the
rest
of
the
private
outdoor
amenity
next
slide,
please.
N
So
in
terms
of
the
upper
levels,
we
have
got
a
mix
at
the
moment
of
498
units
of
12
studios,
thirty,
five
percent
one
beds,
forty
five
percent
two
beds
and
seven
percent
three
beds:
we're
proposing
policy
compliant,
affordable
provision
as
part
of
this
scheme
on
site,
we're
looking
at
m43
provision
at
policy
compliance,
two
percent
we'll
look
at
m42
provision
at
about
90
percent,
so
wave
of
the
30
policy
compliance
point:
we've
also
increased
percentage
of
three
beds
through
the
pre-application
process
by
two
and
a
half
percent
next
slide.
A
Thank
you
for
that
presentation.
I'm
absolutely
sure
members
will
want
to
ask
some
questions.
So
can
I
invite
members
to
indicate
by
placing
your
hands
in
the
air
and
I've
seen
kaylee?
First,
it's
so
it's
so
original
in
there
after
the
electronic
hands,
when
you're
ready,
kelly
I'll
try
to.
H
Thank
you,
chair
yeah,
it's
a
bit
strange,
isn't
it
actually
putting
your
hand
at
rather
than
pressing
a
button
yeah?
So
I
think
I
think
initial
comments,
really
I'm
interested
in
how
you've
come
up
with
seven
percent
for
three
bed
is
is
that
is
that
based
on
need
what
what
kind
of
affordables
products
is
is?
H
Are
you
planning
on
delivering
and
then
I
thought
it
was
interesting
that
you
mentioned
the
word
slender,
because
I
was
I
was
actually
thinking
as
I
was
looking
at
the
the
sort
of
images
that
they
could
be
more
slender,
they
seem
it
seems
a
little
bit
a
bit
of
something
off
about
them,
so
yeah.
N
Okay,
damian
jones
says:
go
on
they
affordable,
yeah.
P
Sure,
in
terms
of
I'll
start
with
the
three
beds
actually
yeah
in
terms
of
three
beds,
it
is
in
need,
so
we
we
did
originally
have
five
percent
three
beds
and
through
consultation,
it
was
clear
that
there
was
a
need
for
more
more
tree
beds
and
this
will
be
a
rental
building.
P
So
we've
designed
our
tree
beds
in
a
way
they're
suitable
for
families
but
also
suitable
for
shares
and
and
the
percentage
is
still
under
consideration,
and
there
is
an
opportunity
to
increase
the
number
of
three
beds,
but
we
feel
we
want
to
ensure
that
the
homes
there
is
a
market
we
can't
rent
them.
We
don't
want
to
be
left
with
empty
homes.
P
So
at
the
moment
we
think
seven
and
a
half,
seven
seven
half
percent
correct
number
in
terms
of
affordable
housing
as
dalget
referred
to
we're
looking
at
boat
options
in
terms
of
being
policy
compliant
and
we'll
be
delivering
a
tenure
brand,
affordable
housing
offer.
We
do
it
across
all
our
schemes
and
and
it'll,
be
pepper
potted
around
this
game.
So
there's
no
no
corridor.
It's
all
same
entrance
same
finish,
but
the
exact
con
nature
of
the
affordable
housing
will
continue.
P
Dialogue
with
officers
again
it'll,
be
driven
by
ensuring
that
it
meets
the
needs
of
the
local
authority,
but
also
that
we
can
rent
the
homes
and-
and
do
you
want
to
cover
the
point
on
slanderness.
N
So
yeah
in
terms
of
standards,
I
think
the
the
idea
of
the
architecture,
the
floor
plate
we've
got
a
sensible
deliverable
scheme
on
a
floor
plate.
So
the
idea
is
then,
to
try
and
use
the
architecture
to
slender
this
proportion
out.
So
it's
about
taking
the
verticality
of
the
brickwork
effectively
making
a
dominant
element.
So
you
read
verticals
within
that,
rather
than
you
know,
creating
a
flat
facade,
it's
about
projecting
vertical.
That
starts
giving
shadow
an
actual
verticality
to
something.
N
N
So
then
it's
working
with
the
architecture
to
really
stretch
that
you
know
visually
try
and
stretch
that
to
make
it
something
that
is
slender
in
the
horizon.
I
think
that
you're
right
the
view,
the
viewpoint
is
key
to
it
all
and
how
you
view
this
thing.
So
I
think
this
the
slenderness
is
about
materiality
and
it's
about
form
of
the
actual
elevations.
Ultimately,.
M
Just
before
I,
as
I
asked
my
questions,
I
think
this
has
been
a
perfect
example
of
not
having
a
site
visit.
You
know
an
awful
lot
of
what's
been
talked
about
and
the
views
and
etc
would
have
been
so
much
better
if
we've
been
walking
around
there
this
morning,
but
anyway,
the
before
us
again
before
this
I'll
be
very
quick
but
the
the
wellington
train
station.
M
You
know
how
do
you
arrive
at
that,
so
I
know
that
we
as
a
council
would
like
to
see
cars
banished
forever,
but
in
the
real
world,
people
don't
actually
use
motor
cars.
Now,
just
wonder
for
400
nod
apartments
flats,
whether
22
cars
is,
you
know,
a
practical
sort
of
the
figure
just
moving
down.
M
You
indicate
that
the
elevational
treatment
is
predominantly
brick.
Is
this
bricks,
as
we
know
them,
or
these
panels
that
have
brick
facings
the
you've
covered
a
bit
about
number
of
that
number
of
three
beds,
tubers
etc.
But
three
bed
flats
would
attract
families.
Presumably
what
floors
are
those
on
I'd
be
interested
to
know
and
because,
of
course,
with
children?
M
It's
not
necessarily
a
good
idea
to
be
at
the
very
top,
and
that
also
raises
a
point
that
I
didn't
see
anywhere
that
there's
anything
to
stop
anybody
running
out
of
these
flats
and
straight
into
the
canal
or
from
any
of
the
surrounding
streets.
It's
a
fair
point.
You
know
that
people
do
do
that
sort
of
thing
go
on
to
page
28
and
we're
looking
at
applications
over
the
years.
M
And
the
the
word
that
crops
up
a
bit
effectively
is
basically
approved
an
approved
application.
That's
not
been
built.
Are
you
what
sort
of
not
guaranteed
but
confidence?
Do
we
have
that?
You
really
actually
want
to
build
this,
because,
over
the
years
that
site
we've
sat
and
looked
at
so
many
proposals
for
it
and
sweet
funny,
adams
happens
in
fact,
that's
true
of
an
awful
lot
that
we
that
we
pass
at
this
panel,
and
I
just
wonder
whether
we
could
have
a
little
bit
of
a
bit
of
confidence
about
that
right.
M
A
Thank
you,
graeme,
there's
quite
a
lot
there,
please.
If
you.
N
Yes,
I'll
start
with
the
the
easiest
ones.
First,
the
canal
I'm
falling
in
I
mean
I
suppose
the
basic
point
we've
got
is
that
we're
not
putting
ramps
into
this
scheme?
It's
a
slow
landscape,
so
there's
no
danger
of
prams
or
cycles
rolling
off
down
into
the
canal
and
at
no
other
point
on
the
canal,
do
you
have
a
barrier?
I
don't
think
that
I
can
think
of.
M
P
N
I
think
the
danger
of
being
putting
too
much
in
the
way
is
that
what
essentially
trying
to
create
is
a
public
space.
That's
welcoming
and
inviting,
and
it's
trying
to
drag
people
into
the
space
to
activate
things,
create
ultimately
creating
successful
bits
of
city
additional
new
bits
of
city.
I
think
once
you
stop
putting
barriers
to
that
and
fences,
it
naturally
becomes
somebody's
somebody
else's
and
not
a
public
space,
so
we're
trying
to
avoid
that.
But
I
think
the
point
is
valid.
N
We
don't
people
run
into
the
canal,
anyone
you
know
falling
in
obviously
to
the
children
and
prams
and
bicycles
and
whatnot,
and
the
second
point
cars
versus
bicycles.
I
mean
this
is
an
enormously
sustainable
location
in
the
city.
You
know
and
leads
his
policy,
the
climate
emergency
and
everything
else.
If
this
site
cannot
be
a
low
car
site,
I
struggle
to
see
where
we
could
put
a
low
car
parking
site,
really
we're
proposing
a
lot
of
bicycles,
because
unless
you
provide
the
bicycle
spaces,
people
aren't
going
to
cycle.
N
N
P
Think
just
to
add
to
that,
in
our
experience
and
having
built
around
schemes
around
the
uk,
we
end
up
with
large
empty
car
parks.
You
know
we
do
have
a
site
next
door,
that's
got
consent
and
there's
a
hundred
car
parking
spaces
and-
and
you
know
the
from
our
research
and
our
experience,
we
anticipate
most
of
them
being
empty
and
we're
reluctant
to
deliver
a
large
car
park
here,
that's
ultimately
very
expensive
to
start
digging
in
the
ground
affects
viability
and
we
we
would
rather
invest
in
sustainable
means
of
transports
car
club
spaces.
P
N
The
next
point
I've
got
on
my
list.
Sorry,
if
I
miss
any
of
these,
do
shout
out
because
there's
quite
a
few
three
beds
and
the
floors.
The
three
beds
are
on
at
the
moment
we're
trying
to
push
the
bottom
of
the
building,
as
you
suggest,
as
much
as
possible
because,
like
you
say,
three
bed
flats
will
predominantly
be
either
sharers
or
families
and
families
don't
want
to
go
up
30
flights
of
stairs
or
a
lift
to
34.
N
P
I
guess
I'll
take
this
one
and
you
know
and
bridges
we
we
build
out
all
our
developments.
We
take
a
long-term
view
and
investment
in
the
cities
we
work
in
and
every
we
have
5
000
homes,
either
complete
or
under
development
at
the
moment,
and
we've
never
sold
a
site.
We've
built
everything
out
and
I
think
you
know
we'll
be
proving
that.
P
I
hope
that
in
the
next
two
to
three
weeks
with
starting
on-site
with
latitude
purple
on
the
neighboring
side,
we
get
into
a
great
level
of
detail
at
this
stage
from
these
schemes,
because
we
want
to
ensure
they
are
deliverable
and
with
increasing
construction
costs
and
so
on.
It
is
challenging,
but
we
consider
great
great
detail
how
we
build
these
buildings
from
day,
one
to
make
sure
they
are
deliverable.
P
I
think
that
also
comes
on
to
your
point
about
real
bricks
and
versus
a
brick
slip
system,
we're
a
huge
fan
of
rail
bricks.
You
know
we,
as
I
say
we
looked
at
this
as
a
20
30
year.
Business
plan
we
want
to
build
buildings
will
stand
the
test
of
time
and
real
bricks
stand
the
test
of
time.
That
has
to
be
caveat
at
what
wool
bricks
be
available
at
the
time.
You
know
we
always
struggle
to
buy
bricks,
and
but
our
aspiration
at
the
moment
is
to
build
this
from
real
bricks.
A
Graeme,
of
course,
you
raised
a
really
good
point
about
site
visits
and
speaking
for
myself
as
chair,
and
nobody
else,
I
haven't
talked
to
officers,
but
I
hope
to
resume
site
visits.
Our
next
meeting,
even
members
feel
a
bit
squeamish
about
traveling
on
a
bus.
They
can
always
use
their
own
cars
and
meet
us
on
site,
can't
they
there's
ways
around
it,
and
the
other
point
you
make
is
a
very
good
one.
That's
come
up
in
the
last
15
months
about
materiality.
A
N
A
That
there's
a
question
from
grammy.
You
did
mention
the
design
panel
and
it
is
a
question
to
officers.
We
haven't
got
david
here,
but
it's
in
the
process
of
happening.
I
don't
know
how
soon,
but
it's
something
we
can
raise.
I
No,
it's
not
steve,
isn't
it
jeff?
If
I
could
just
comment
on
that,
it
was
something
that
I
think
mark
burgess
originally
was
tasked
with
sort
of
bringing
to
fruition,
but
obviously
mark
subsequently
retired
last
year,
and
I'm
not
sure,
given
the
pandemic,
that
much
progress
has
been
made
on
that
recently,
but
it
is
still
there
as
a
task
to
be
completed
and
for
those
design
panels
to
be
brought
to
fruition.
I
As
I
say
in
the
near
future,
hopefully
now
that
we're
sort
of
resuming
at
a
level
of
normality
and
just
to
say
in
terms
of
the
site
visits,
we
are
working
on
a
risk
assessment
for
them
at
the
moment.
As
you
know,
all
activities
do
have
to
have
a
risk
assessment.
First,
that's
got
to
be
approved
and
consulted
through
the
unions
as
well
so
hoping
to
get
that
in
place
in
the
next
couple
of
weeks
to
really
enable
panels
to
resume
next
month.
Next
time
around.
A
D
Thank
you
chet
a
couple
of
questions
about
specific
points.
I'll
make
one
point
from
my
own
view,
just
to
make
sure
that
the
applicant's
getting
the
views
of
of
all
members,
I
mean
I'm
perfectly
supportive
of
the
number
of
car
parking
spaces
that
you've
got.
I
don't
see
any
reason
for
you
to
own
a
car
if
you're
there,
and
I
think
on
the
side
of
that
this
is
obviously
a
managed
built
to
rent
scheme.
D
So
if
somebody
rents
an
apartment
without
a
car
parking
space,
then
it's
up
to
them
to
find
somewhere
to
put
their
car
that's
somewhere
else.
Obviously
there
will
be
some
people
who
may
need
a
car
for
mobility
reasons
etc,
and
I'm
sure
then
they'd
get
allocated
one,
but
I
see
no
no
difficulty
with
a
low
number
of
car
parking
spaces
at
this
site.
Just
in
terms
of
looking
at
it,
I'm
struggling
with
the
levels
a
little
bit.
D
I
was
wondering
if
somebody
could
talk
me
through
how
somebody
would
access
the
cycle
storage
if
they
were
coming
in
on
a
bike
and
then
one
other
question.
I've
got
just
around
some
of
the
green
space.
You've
got
that
nice
little
lawn
outside
that
connects
to
the
possible
businesses
that
might
be
under
the
arches.
I
don't
know
where
the
nearest
play
areas
or
anything
like
that
are
in
this
area,
but
I'm
wondering
whether
you
consider
maybe
some
sort
of
informal
play
area
around
there.
O
Absolutely
thank
you
for
that
that
question
in
terms
of
informal
play,
absolutely
we
consider
most
of
the
public
area
and
the
open
space
that
we're
creating
to
be
playable,
so
it
wouldn't
be
cordoned
off
and
fenced
off
as
play
space
in
the
dedicated
sense,
but
in
terms
of
incidental
and
informal
play
so
integrated
into
the
landscape.
Everything
playable,
ideally
no
poisons
plants
unless
they
blew
in.
You
know
things
like
that.
All
those
kinds
of
considerations
in
terms
of
the
level
yeah.
N
In
terms
of
levels,
and
so
the
site
steps
up
from
the
canal,
obviously
it
counts
the
low
points
on
the
site
and
there's
a
change
in
levels
of
about
one
and
a
half
to
two
meters
across
so
diagonal
of
the
site,
we're
looking
at
building
on
top
of
it,
rather
than
excavating
a
bulk
excavating
taking
things
off
site.
So
the
idea
is
the
lower
level,
sits
down
the
lowest
levels,
it's
the
canal
on
the
front
edge
which
addresses
that
directly
and
then
the
main
part
of
the
podium
sits
up
at
an
accessible
level.
N
Beyond
that
that's
commenced
with
the
viaduct
arches
effectively.
So
there's
a
there's,
a
change
level.
You
can
see
on
that.
Drawing
there
in
front
of
you,
there's
a
change
in
level
with
a
gentle
one
in
20
sloped
ramp
back
up
into
the
viaduct
link
back
to
the
north
and
south,
and
then
you
have
a
stepped
route
back
with
that
as
well.
So
it's
fully
accessible
across
the
site
back
up
into
the
site
effectively.
D
N
A
G
Thanks
chair,
it's
good
to
be
about
meeting
in
person
again,
isn't
it?
I
just
I
mean
a
lot
of
points
I
wanted
to
to
raise,
have
been
I've
been
touched
upon
already,
which,
which
is
great,
just
quite
seized
by
council
life,
he's
concerned
that
thousands
of
tenants
will
run
screaming
from
your
buildings
and
into
the
canal.
I
think
some
kind
of
cunning
large
net
on
a
metal
extractor
arm,
I
think,
might
be
something
to
to
consider
sorry,
graham,
I
I
couldn't
resist,
cancel
out.
G
G
I
think
we'd
really
like
to
see
samples
and
samples
with
a
as
a
higher
degree
assured
to
this
is
what
you're
going
to
be
able
to
purchase
as
possible,
because
brick
covers
a
multitude
of
colours,
shades
and
sins,
doesn't
it
and
textures
and
types,
and
sometimes
we've
had
really
great
samples
and
then,
when
you
see
the
building,
it's
like.
That's
that
red
municipal
toilet
block
brick
from
the
19th
century.
So
we
have
a
few
concerns
like
that.
One
leads
us
as
chair
as
chess
points
out.
G
Many
times
leads
us
sometimes
to
break
city,
so
we're
just
extra
careful
these
days
as
a
city
plans
panel,
but
no
a
lot.
This
is,
is
really
rather
good.
It's
a
good
presentation,
particularly
the
like,
I
said,
the
verticality,
the
design
my
concerns
are
usually
affordables,
and
then
climate
energy,
and
so
when
coming
forward
with
the
full
application
really
keen
to
get
into
the
details
of
of
how
you're
going
to
address
carbon,
energy
and
climate
and
all
those
issues
that
are
inextricably
bundled
together,
particularly
individual
flats,
will
get
hot
water.
G
That's
key
issues
for
a
moment.
Obviously,
the
the
government
deadline
for
phasing
out
of
injury,
gas
boilers
is
looming
hard
and
there's
an
awful
lot
of
technological
development
going
on
at
the
moment,
so
keen
to
see
a
lot
of
detail
about
that,
because
that's
a
key
concern
for
us.
So
really
just
those
points.
Other
comments
have
been
touched
upon.
Oh
actually,
yes,
I
do
agree
in
terms
of
the
your
provision
of
parking
and
bikes
absolutely
if
we
can't
get
car
free
living
here.
G
So
I
think
just
on
that,
what
provision
are
you
just
apart
from
just
loads
of
pointers,
for
the
fall
application
is
if
you're
any
sense
of
how
you're
going
to
approach
e-bikes,
because,
as
a
climate
emergency
committee
chair,
I
keep
talking
about
the
coming
e-bike
revolution.
I
wish
I
had
a
five
pounds
for
every
time.
I've
used
it
in
a
speech
or
or
a
response
to
a
constituent.
So
how
are
you
addressing
e-bikes?
And
out
of
all
of
that?
That's
my
one
definite
question.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you
neil
there.
There
was
a
couple
of
questions
because
mainly
comments.
Welcome
as
they
are
with
just
remy
members,
we're
still
on
questions
please,
when
you
can
answer
it.
I
We'll
also
be
we'll
be
looking
to
make
sure
that
bicycles
for
use
by
non-able-bodied
people
can
also
access
electricity
and
we
will
be
policy
compliant.
But
we
will
have
the
ducting
in
to
make
sure
that
if
we
need
to,
we
can
expand
that.
So
there
won't
be
a
risk
of
people
wanting
an
e-bike
but
would
know
where
to
charge
it.
A
Richard
you
certainly
started
conversation
and
descended
the
table
and
it
simply
went
to
question
from
me:
do
we
have
a
policy
on
e-bikes
and
dolls?
You
didn't
know,
but
he
did
say
if
you've
mentioned
it,
we
must
have
so
so
we'll
have
to
tease
that
one
out
a
little
bit.
What
would
graham,
but
thank
you
for
that
comment.
Richard.
Q
There
I'm
james
bryce
from
max
fordham
we're.
I
could
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
the
energy
strategy.
Quite
a
lot
of
work
has
gone
into
that
all
already
and
it's
important
to
look
at
the
the
whole
of
the
energy
strategy
in
the
in
in
the
round.
So
the
first
thing
that
I'd
like
to
do-
and
we
do
with
events,
obviously
reduce
the
reducer
demand
on
from
from
site,
so
there's
a
highly
efficient
building
fabric
proposed
with
with
heat
recovery
ventilation.
Q
Also,
there's
no
intention
of
putting
mechanical
cooling
in
so
so.
In
order
to
achieve
that,
we
need
to
minimize
the
minimize
the
window
size.
He
says
it's
not
too
much
so
again
into
the
into
the
dwellings.
A
real
benefit
of
smaller
windows
is
there's
more
walls
which
are
much
more
firmly
efficient
than
the
windows,
so
so
the
first
thing
we
focus
on
is
is
reducing
that
demand.
It's
also
important
for
us
not
to
be
installing
any
gas
on
on-site.
Q
So
so
the
proposal
is
for
know
if
there
are
no
fossil
fuels
on
on.
Q
A
Certainly,
your
questions
brought
out
some
interesting
issues.
A
E
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
chad.
I
I
was
pleased
to
say
that
you
designed
balconies
into
their
development,
and
I
I
think
I
know
what
a
projecting
balcony
provision
is
and
what
a
juliet
balcony
is.
I
don't
know
what
an
operable
sponge
window
is.
Could
you.
E
Okay,
also
I'd
just
like
to
point:
I'm
not
a
personal
fan
of
studios
at
all,
and
I
just
wondered
if
you
could
give
us
an
idea
of
the
of
the
sort
of
layout
and
an
immunity
that
they
will
offer
and
personally,
I
would
like
to
see
the
number
of
studios
reduced.
E
Echo
the
points
made
on
climate
change,
for
a
development
of
this
size
in
a
city
of
this
size
with
the
innovation
and
the
and
the
empathy
with
the
environment
that
you're
showing
we
would
expect
an
equal
level
of
innovation
with
the
climate
change
strategies
and
hopefully,
at
the
next
stage,
we'll
see
those
coming
forward.
And
did
I
hear
somebody
talking
about
reducing
window
size
as
one
of
those
measures,
because
that
that.
N
Would
it's
about
providing
appropriate
window
sizes
to
get
lighted
without
excessive
solar
gain
so
providing
light
where
it's
valuable?
You
know
there's
no
point
running
light
at
200
mil
off
the
ground,
because
it's
not
doing
anything
it's
providing
light
where
an
entry
into
the
building
where
it's
helpful
it
provides.
E
N
So
studio
provision
the
studio
layout,
we've
done
in
this
presentation,
because
we've
got
to
condense
it
to
10
minutes
which
we
failed
to
achieve
quite
miserably,
but
the
studio
apartment
is
the
same
as
a
one
bed
apartment,
lesser
wall.
So
it's
exactly
the
same
space
standard.
It's
nationally
described
space
standards
for
one
but
in
effect,
and
it
works
in
the
same
way
as
a
one
bed
flat
lesser
wall.
So
it's
really
about
choice
of
tenure,
I
suppose
for
whoever
wants
to
rent
it.
Ultimately,
it's.
P
Yeah,
I
think,
of
the
studios.
We've
designed
it
in
a
way
that
the
bedroom
area
is
more
flexible,
so
we
essentially
have
folding
walls.
So
someone
chooses
to
open
up
the
space
to
have
more
living
space,
which
is
conscious
in
a
hopefully
soon
to
be
post
coverage
world.
How
people
use
the
homes
dramatically
changed.
It's
now
a
place
where
people
work
and
people
home
school.
So
in
some
of
our
developments
and
aspirations
going
forward,
we
want
to
build
in
as
much
flexibility
as
possible
to
these
homes.
N
And
that's
at
the
upper
levels
where
balconies
aren't
appropriate
and
you
have
fully
openable
windows,
so
you
can
get
air
in
at
an
appropriate
level
and
you
have
the
sense
of
outdoors,
albeit
it's
not
sensible
at
20
stories
to
have
a
balcony
because
they're
not
used
at
that
point.
Generally.
Nobody
wants
to
sit
on
a
projected
balcony,
20
stories.
I
don't
imagine
in
this
room.
E
P
I
think
we
we
would
also
be
keen
to
have
more
balconies,
but
we're
trying
to
balance
that
with
you
know
some
of
the
the
studies
we're
doing
particularly
the
one
analysis
and
so
on.
So
we
we
tried
to
balance
that
by
having
projecting
balconies
and
then
julia
balconies
and
then
higher
up,
where
it's
quite
challenging
to
have.
Actually
you
know
the
perception
of
opening
up
a
window.
P
So
if
people
get
that,
you
know
fresh
air
in
views
out,
an
idea
of
their
living
room
becomes
a
recessed
balcony
and
it's
something
we're
still
looking
at
to
put
more
balconies
on
this
building
because,
as
I
say,
we
want
to
deliver
homes
that
people
want
to
rent
and
outside
space
has
never
been
more
important.
We're
also
delivering
lots
of
communal
space
here
and
communal
external
space.
We
really
encourage
within
our
communities
for
people
to
use
those
spaces.
P
C
Well,
we've
heard
this
afternoon
how
members
are
very
keen
on
cycling
in
this
city.
I
personally
am
very
keen
on
walking
in
this
city
and
the
development
of
the
viaduct
has
been
mooted
for
years
and
years
now
for
people
to
walk
along
it.
C
I
appreciate
it's
important
as
a
linear
park
for
the
local
residents,
but
looking
at
the
map
on
page
41
of
the
agenda,
I've
just
measured
the
length
of
it
and
it's
a
mere
150
meters,
which
is
hardly
a
a
long
way,
and
although
it's
not
your
responsibility,
but
I
wonder
if
it
could
be
a
extended
over
the
rail
line
to
make
it
a
real
walk
as
fa.
Perhaps
as
far
as
ellen
road
and
just
a
final
point,
I
noticed
the
illustrations
about
trees
growing
on
on
the
viaduct.
C
N
The
via
doctors
and
within
our
control,
as
part
of
the
cdl
scheme,
has
been
delivered
as
part
of
the
monk
bridge
scheme
to
the
right
of
that
image.
Effectively
that's
been
consented
it's
under
construction
as
we
speak,
and
it's
delivered
as
part
of
the
section
106.
I
understand
on
the
monkbridge
scheme
and
I
think
it's
part
of
the
the
practical
completion
on
that
scheme
anyway.
N
So
that's
beyond
our
control
in
terms
of
the
length
of
that
just
for
reference,
I
suppose
it
pretty
much
matches
brigade
in
terms
of
its
length
and
it
does
connect
back
to
the
mepc
scheme
and,
I
believe,
there's
an
application
for
a
staircase,
namely
pc
site,
as
we
speak,
so
it
will
connect
down
to
that
and
it
does
connect
down
to
the
mvpc
site.
O
C
Within
us
sorry,
I
know
I'm
knocking
on
a
bit
and
I
might
be
getting
hard
of
hearing,
but
I
do
find
it
difficult
and
I
wonder
if
the
microphones
could
be
turned
up.
Please,
because
you
know
some
of
the
comments
down
this
thing.
Just
sound
like
a
mumble.
O
Is
this
any
better?
If
I
lean
in
okay
super
so
within
our
site,
we
have
an
open
space
of
about
46
meters
by
roughly
25
meters,
which
is
about
a
hundred
sorry,
a
thousand
square
meters
of
new
open
space.
The
planting
that
we're
looking
at
will
be
very
much
developed
in
sympathy
with
the
riverine
habitats.
O
It
is
a
contaminated
site,
and
so
we
do
have
to
limit
the
the
way
the
the
plants
and
the
trees
can
root
into
the
ground.
But
we
are
looking
and
taking
very
seriously
the
soil
volumes
and
depths
that
will
be
required
so
that
this
becomes
a
real
landscape
that
grows
over
time
that
thrives
over
time
and
we're
not
putting
in
little
small
trees
just
to
die
slowly
so
working
hand
in
hand
with
the
ecologists
for
very
sympathetic
planting
to
grow
long.
O
Q
Thank
you
and
apologies
for
being
late
chair.
Evidently
I
I
made
the
mistake
of
driving
here
from
wetherby
instead
of
cycling
and
the
roads
were
hectic.
Looking
at
the
questions
we've
been
asked,
I
have
two
two
questions.
Q
First
of
all
on
the
proposed
mix
of
or
the
acceptability
of
the
one
and
two
bedroom
units,
and
we've
mentioned
curvid,
but
the
part
of
the
city
that
I
represent
has
seen
a
an
exponential
rise
in
house
sales
recently
and
the
data
behind
that
shows
it's
everybody
fleeing
from
the
city
and
from
other
cities
in
the
country
as
well,
because
they
want
access
to
outdoor
space
and
amenity.
Q
So
I
wonder
if
somebody
could
give
some
comment
on
the
actual
market
at
the
minute,
whether
you
think
there
is
going
to
be
demand
for
units
without
outdoor
space
of
their
own,
given
that
we've
seen
a
rise
in
people
trying
to
move
out
of
such
accommodation
and
move
out
to
parts
of
the
city
that
have
more
outdoor
space,
and
the
second
point
was
regarding
emerging
puzzles
for
design
scale
form
and
detailing.
Q
I
have
no
comment
on
scale
and
form,
but
I
do
on
design
and
detailing
and
I'm
conscious
that
somebody's
put
a
lot
of
work
into
this
and
it's
your
plan
and
elected
counselor
comes
along
gives
you
their
views,
it's
probably
less
than
helpful,
but
I
will
anyway,
I
think,
had
the
design
brief
been
to
to
replicate
peckham's
nelson
mandela
house,
using
the
windows
of
my
1960s
science
block
at
school.
Q
It
would
have
probably
been
bang
on
and
I'm
just
not
sure
whether
the
we've
got
enough
information
around
the
detailing
of
this
sort
of
lattice
type,
brick
here
and
and
the
windows
and
and
I'm
actually
more
interested
to
know
where
that
came
from.
Q
Is
there
somewhere
else
in
the
city
that
you've
seen
you've
shown
us
some
examples,
but
they
don't
really
replicate
that,
so
it
might
be
just
the
cgi.
It's
not
not
good,
but
I'd
like
some
further
background
on
that.
Please.
A
Welcome
to
the
meeting
you
went
here
when
we
went
around
the
table,
but
you're
very
welcome.
Thank
you.
N
I
think
the
brickwork
is
developing.
There
are
precedents
around
town.
They
do
have
the
sort
of
projecting
or
alternate
color
bricks,
with
a
sort
of
headed
flemish
bond
and
the
elevation's
developing
we're
at
plans
panel
stage
and
we're
here
to
garner
opinion,
and
I
sent
you
comments
so
we're
going
to
develop
that
through
obviously
but
yeah.
It's
a
developing
theme
and
it
is
trying
to
extract
things
from
the
local
environment.
There's
a
lot
more
in
terms
of
the
brickwork
study
we've
done,
but
obviously
because
of
my
10-minute
presentation,
which
I've
failed
to
give.
N
There's
we've
cut
that
down
necessarily
but
yeah.
We
certainly
when
it
comes
back
for
application
stage.
We'll
show
a
lot
more
of
that
and
resolve
that
and
the
second
point.
P
Yeah
I'll
take
the
point
about
in
terms
of
in
terms
of
demand
for
this
product,
and
obviously
we
carried
out
a
huge
amount
of
research
before
investing
in
the
city,
particularly
the
neighboring
site,
which
is
due
to
start
on
based
on
the
research.
Has
there's
never
been.
You
know
a
greater
demand
for
good
quality,
purpose-built
rental
homes
in
leeds
city
centre.
P
It's
got
a
great
retention
in
terms
of
student
numbers,
there's
huge
numbers
of
people
relocating
back
to
leeds
and
there's
a
demand
for
people
wanting
to
downsize
size
and
live
in
city
centers,
and
we
we've
looked
at
other
built-in
schemes
in
the
city
center
and
the
majority
of
them
are
now
100
percent
left
with
a
waiting
list
for
this
these
type
of
homes.
I
completely
agree
with
your
point
about
the
home
and
external
space,
and
it's
something
that
we
need
to
continue
to
work
on,
particularly
with
this
type
of
development.
P
You
know
we
do
need
to
design
homes
in
the
future
and
we
do
need
to
design
them
a
good
quality
external
space,
but
I
do
think
that
some,
an
element
of
that
can
be
shared
and
we
really
want
to
encourage
communities
in
these
buildings.
We
don't
want
to
create
homes
where
people
live
in
isolation
and
loneliness,
particularly
in
a
covered
world,
so
there's
still
work
to
do,
but
we
believe
that
there
is
demand
and
there's
a
lot
of
demand,
particularly
in
lead
city
center.
At
the
moment,.
L
Yeah
a
couple
of
couple
of
questions,
one
for
the
developer
and
one
for
officers.
If
possible,
can
I
just
get
clear
in
my
mind
what
I
think
he
said
to
caroline,
but
I
didn't
quite
catch
it,
that
the
square
meterage
of
a
studio
is
exactly
the
same
as
the
square
meters
of
a
one
bedroom
flat,
correct,
okay,
right
and
that's
policy
compliant,
not
just
the
walk,
how
how
big!
So
how
much?
How
many
square?
How
many
square
meters
is
a
wall
right?
The
second
one
is,
I
think,
for
julian
who's.
Hiding
behind
me.
L
B
That's
what
usually
happens
so
yeah
in
terms
of
the
the
space
standards.
The
the
space
stand
is
actually
only
referred
to
one
bed,
accommodation,
so
a
studio
and
one
bed
with
you
know.
A
separate
wall
is,
is
the
same
minimum
space
standard
and
and
that's
what
we'd
be
looking
for.
There's
no
policy
saying
that
you
know
one
product
is
preferred
over
another
product.
It's
it's
really
a
focus
on
the
size
of
the
flat
for
a
one
person
occupancy
in
terms
of
car
parking
policy.
B
Our
policy
for
the
city
center
doesn't
set
a
minimum
requirement
for
car
parking.
Providing
the
applicant
can
demonstrate,
and
we
can
accept
that.
That's
not
gonna
be
there's
that
there's
not
going
to
be
an
adverse
impact
on
the
highway
network.
B
Then
in
some
cases,
in
the
most
sustainable
locations
we
can
accept
little
or
no
car
parking,
so
that
will
be
dependent
on
the
detailed
transport
assessment.
That'll
be
submitted
with
the
application,
but
we
have,
in
this
location,
accepted
quite
low
levels
of
parking,
and
the
ceg
scheme
comes
to
mind
just
in
holbeck
just
to
the
south,
but
quite
happy
for
julian.
To
add
to
that.
R
R
Thank
you,
chair,
hello,
everyone!
So,
yes,
it
it
there's
no
minimum
standard,
it's
a
maximum
standard
in
the
city
centre
and
we
would
be
looking
at
a
our
ideal
in
the
transport
spd-
is
no
more
than
half
a
space
per
unit
in
the
city
centre,
but
we
would
certainly
accept
less
than
that.
R
I
think
the
important
issue
for
us
to
work
out
is
that
all
streets
within
the
vicinity,
just
because
we're
getting
to
an
edge
of
the
city
centre,
are
appropriately
covered
by
traffic
regulation
orders
so
that
we
can't
get
you
know
a
higher
demand
and
then
an
impact
on
surrounding
streets,
and
we
would
do
that
by
ensuring
having
a
look
at
those
traffic
regulation
orders
and
ensuring
we
got
money
to
ensure
we
could
extend
any
restrictions
if
necessary.
R
I
think
the
biggest
issue
for
us,
though,
is
about
servicing
because,
regardless
of
whether
people
own
cars
or
not,
there
are
going
to
be
times
when
they,
you
know,
use
a
car
taxi
whatever
it
is.
You
know
that
there'll
be
more
use
of
taxis
potentially
for
people
who
who
don't
have
car
ownership.
R
So
we
do
need
to
make
sure
that
the
the
facilities
pick
up
and
drop
off
and
servicing
our
rights
for
these
very
large
blocks
and
that's
something
that
we'll
be
looking
at
through
the
planning
application.
R
At
the
same
time,
could
I
just
say
so
in
terms
of
our
draft
transport
spd,
we
do
have
guidance
on
electric
bike
charging,
so
we
have
sockets
for
for
every
20,
long,
stay
cycle
spaces
and
there's
also
advice
on
requirements
for
recumbent
and
and
cargo
bike
parking,
but
not
specific
numbers.
So
it's
something
in
terms
of
detail
that
we
would
agree
with
the
applicant
during
the
planning
stage.
A
I
So
we're
very
conscious
of
the
service
strategy
for
putting
effectively
500
residential
units
on
top
of
each
other,
for
one
of
a
better
phrase
creates
quite
we're
concerned
that
it
would
create
quite
significant
demand
so
as
part
of
the
work
that
we've
done
in
advising
the
client
in
terms
of
the
service
strategy,
we've
done
a
survey
of
the
residential
element
of
bridgewater
place,
so
full
details
will
be
contained
within
the
transport
assessment.
I
That's
set
out
the
methodologies,
but
we're
comfortable
that
the
number
that
we've
got
out
is
backed
up
by
evidence,
whereas
I
think
a
lot
that
there's
there's
no
particular
guidance
within
the
draft
spd.
That's
forthcoming,
so
we've
just
done
a
first
principles.
Exercise,
but
full
detail
will
be
content
within
the
transport
assessment.
C
K
I'm
going
to
ask
a
question:
it's
julian!
That
set
me
up
on
this
when
the
site
is,
is
fully
complete
and
the
viaduct
is
complete
and
the
path
comes
through.
There
will
be
an
easy
access
to
the
bottom
of
the
chairs
wall
actually
to
where
the
gyrator
is,
and
it
will
be
a
fairly
nice
walk
when
it's
completed
and
not
that
far
from
the
site.
A
I
think
that's
probably
a
question
for
when
we
for
jillian
when
we
get
the
application
yeah.
Do
you
want
to
comment
on
that.
R
I
think
I
think
that's
that's
the
kind
of
information
we'd
be
looking
for
in
terms
of
just
ensuring,
because
we're
getting
towards
the
edge
of
the
city
centre,
just
ensuring
that
we
haven't
got
areas
where
you
know.
We've
got
unrestricted
on
street
parking.
So
that's
exactly
the
kind
of
assessment
we
would
need
to
make
at
that
stage.
H
Thank
you
chair.
So
there
was,
there
was
mention
of
informal
play
as
opposed
to
a
formalized
play
area.
H
I'd
just
like
to
know
what
what
the
evidence
base
is
for
providing
that,
as
opposed
to
a
formalized
play
area
with,
like
you
know,
like
swings
and
slides
and
things
that
kids
like
and
especially
as
it's
close
to
quite
a
big
stretch
of
water,
I
think
it
might
put
parents
minds
at
ease
and
also
provide
that
sort
of
meeting
place
for
parents
in
in
that
area
as
well.
I
would
just
I
was
just
wondering
what
the
evidence
base
is
for
that.
O
To
be
fair,
the
evidence
in
space
is
is
this
is
not
driven
by
numbers
in
that
regard
in
evidence
base.
It's
really
from
our
experience
that
integrated
into
intergenerational
uses
is
more
interesting
than
cordoning
off
play
areas
as
being
solely
age
group,
zero
to
five
or
five
to
eleven.
O
It's
the
kind
of
intergenerational
community
that
we're
trying
to
build
and
in
terms
of
informal
play,
there
are
ways
in
which
we
can
integrate
level
changes
and
the
kind
of
exploration
in
terms
of
the
senses
and
natural
natural
environments
that
we
are
very
keen
to
make
accessible
to
children
in
ways
that
support
their
development,
whether
it's
about
physical
risk
taking
or
social
risk.
Taking
things
like
that,
so
that's
in
the
thinking,
but
it's
not
so
much
in
the
form
of
you,
know
a
playground
as
we
know
it.
O
That
said,
it's
not
a
fix
and
we
are
taking.
You
know
if
that
is
a
concern.
We
are
taking
feedback
and
you
know
yes,
comments
for
sure.
H
Yeah
thanks
for
that,
I
think
I
think,
especially
with
it
being
so
close
to
water.
H
I
think
there's
no
reason
why
you
can't
have
both
like
there's,
no
reason
why
you
can't
have
formalized
play
and
informal
play
and
have
because
if
it
seems
to
me
that
you
you
will
be
marketing
the
three
beds
towards
families,
so
so
like
a
bit
of
commitment
to
the
the
way
that
families
and
children
especially,
are
going
to
use
those
spaces
and
be
really
valued.
I
think,
by
by
the
by
the
kiddos.
O
If
I
may,
I
speak
again
so
a
couple
of
things
one
is
that
we
do
have
podium
landscape,
so
we
do
have
the
roof
terrace,
which
is
enclosed,
and
we
can
look
at
making
those
areas
also
equally
multi-use,
but
targeted
more
towards
our
younger
children,
who
might
be
otherwise
more
likely,
maybe
to
go
crawling
off
into
a
canal,
so
they're,
enclosed,
they're,
fenced
off
I've.
I
have
a
child
of
my
own,
who
you
know
anything.
He
gets
a
foothold
on,
he
will
climb
up
and
over
and
be
out.
O
The
other
thing
is
also
that,
yes,
so
in
terms
of
formal
play,
because
this
is
a
site
where
we're
hoping
to
bring
the
kind
of
vibrancy
and
intergenerational
uses
we're
trying
to
make
every
area
every
every
piece
of
open
and
an
outdoor
space,
something
that
can
be
used
at
different
times
by
different
people
and
so
it'll
be
about
looking
at
the
function
of
a
swing.
What
can
you
swing
off
of?
What
can
you
as
a
child,
throw
yourself
off
of
from
a
decent
height
onto
a
safe
surface?
O
You
know
without
it
being
something
that
someone
at
a
different
time
of
day.
Couldn't
occupy
and
that
doesn't
preclude
you
know
in
closing
an
area
in
future.
If
that
is
something
that
is,
that
turns
out
to
be
desirable
and
really
you
know
needed,
and
so
that's
why
we're
having
these
conversations
now
to
get
a
gauge
of
you
know
what
are
the
different
needs
and
how
do
we
accommodate
these
different
groups,
different
age
groups
and
interests.
H
I
can
understand
where
you're
coming
from,
but
it
does
seem
to
me
quite
a
lot
like
trying
to
erase
a
space
set
aside
for
children
rather
than
integrating
in
children.
You
know
what
I
mean
because,
because,
like
kids
do
have
very
specific
needs
and
like
they
will
be
living
there
as
well.
So
that's
just
my
comment.
Yeah.
P
Thank
you.
I
think
it's
a
valid
point
and
I
think
you
know
we
will
have
three
vets
and
families
living
here
and
we
have
the
scheme
next
door.
So
I
think
it's
something
we
need
to
take
away
and
look
at
and
find
a
way
of
integrating
play
and
whether
that's
formal
and
formal
boat.
A
Okay,
graeme,
you
wanted
to
come
back
in
you.
M
The
moment's
vertically
passed,
I
think,
but
I
just
wanted
to
ask
julian
when
we
were
talking
about
cars,
is
there
a
sort
of
a
calculation
that
tells
you
what
is
needed
in
the
way
of
spaces
in
any
given.
R
Situation,
I
mean
normally,
the
only
thing
we
go
on
is
census
data
and
the
census.
Data
we've
currently
got
is
very
old
and
any
I
mean
hopefully
clearly.
We've
had
the
census
from
2021,
but
we
haven't.
We
won't
get
the
information
from
that
for
some
time
to
come,
it's
going
to
be
of
limited
use
as
the
2021
census,
but
hopefully
not
on
car
parking
that
might
be
still
relevant,
but
certainly
travel
to
work
is
going
to
be
a
very
limited
use.
R
So
at
the
moment
the
sensor
data
is
very
out
of
date,
but
we
do
it.
It
does
show,
in
certain
of
the
city
centre,
awards
car
ownership
about
0.3
spaces
per
unit,
but
they're
in
older.
You
know
older
developments,
so
I
think
there
is.
You
know
the
strategy
position
really
is
about
looking
at
how
we
can
implement
more
car
free
development,
and
you
know
ensure
that
leeds
is
a
city
where
you
don't
need
to
own
a.
A
Car
caroline,
please.
E
E
So
I
would
make
the
case
for
exploratory
play,
but
I
am
absolutely
not
playing
down
the
need
for
a
child-friendly
environment
which
is
secure
and
which
they
can
consider
their
own
space.
That's
very
important,
and
I
think
it's
a
real
shame
that,
since
vicky
marston
moved
on
to
her
very
well
deserved
new
post,
we
no
longer
in
the
council
have
an
officer
with
responsibility
for
play.
Who
can
advise
us
in
situations
like
this,
so
I'll
just
have
to
do
instead,
check.
O
Thank
you
councillor
if,
if
I
just
may
pipe
in
my
I
apologize,
I
think
I
misunderstood
the
question
about
it.
Being
data
evidenced
in
my
what
my
intended
response
was
that
we
haven't
run
the
numbers
and
run
them
in
in
terms
of
the
expected
number
of
children.
The
way
we
would
do,
perhaps
in
another
place
where
it's
driven
by
square
meterage
per
child.
You
know
that
the
development
might
spit
out.
So
thank
you.
Q
Q
I
recognize
that
I'm
probably
not
cool
enough
to
be
the
intended
audience
here,
but
I
know
there
is
a
100
square
meter,
meditation
room,
which
I
would
I
would
never
use
if
I
was
an
occupier
here,
but
that
leads
me
on
so
we've
just
had
a
very
interesting
conversation
about
play
from
a
policy
point
of
view
to
officers.
Q
L
B
We
have
green
space
policies
and
green
space
policies,
talk
about
the
amount
of
public
space
that
needs
to
come
along
with
the
development,
and
I
think
they
they
factor
in
the
need
for
place
base
and
enough
space
for
different
functions
that
you
might
need
as
part
of
a
residential
community.
B
But
we
don't
have
any
specific
policies
saying
that
you
should
have
a
particular
type
of
you
know,
play
area
or
a
particular.
What
we
tend
to
do
is
we
look
at
the
nature
of
development.
We
look
at
the
nature
of
what's
proposed
and
if
it
meets
the
needs
of
that
particular
site,
we
we
will
and
it's
part
of
the
proposals.
Then
we
can
control
that
detail.
We
can
say
you
will
provide
this
and
you
can
control
the
details
of
that
provision
in
the
city
center.
B
F
Okay
right
well,
I
was
waiting
for
comment
just
to
say
that
to
the
developer,
when
you're
talking
about
building
these
flats
and
making
it
as
a
community,
I'm
really
pleased
to
hear
that,
because
a
lot
of
the
flats
people
are
isolated
and
we've
just
had
a
year
of
isolation,
so
I'm
really
glad
you're
trying
to
integrate,
and
with
regards
to
the
meditation
room,
I
think
that
would
be
really
welcome.
Sometimes
people
like
to
go
and
have
space
of
their
own.
F
Apart
from
in
the
flats
I
rise,
there
is
no
other
communal
space.
So
I'm
pleased
about
that
and
with
regards
to
the
play
like
was
saying
to
councillor
gruen,
that
not
all
play
areas
has
to
have
a
swing
or
a
slide,
and
children
use
the
imagination.
There's
other
things
you
can
do
on
the
ground
on.
F
You
know
they,
while
adults
are
there
and
sitting
down
and
having
picnics,
and
that
so
I'm
pleased
to
hear
that
that
it,
though
after
it
can
be
a
designated
play
areas
for
family,
but
it
don't
have
to
have
swings
and
slides,
can
they
go
back
to
start
using
their
imagination
and
with
regards
to
someone
mentioned
living
near
to
the
canal
and
putting
up
barriers,
please
don't
there's
thousands
of
places
like
in
the
caribbean,
where
we
have
families
that
lives
by
water
and
they
don't
fall
in.
You
know
they
are
sensible.
F
There
is
walkways
and
cycleways,
etc.
So
please
don't
go
and
put
any
barriers.
So
that's
what
you
know.
Obviously,
when
it
is
approval,
if
it
ever
get
approved,
et
cetera
or
built.
That's
what
I'd
like
no
barriers
there!
Please
people
do
use
their
imagination
and
and
and
when
you
live
near
water,
there
is
no
way
you're
going
to
run
out
of
a
building.
You
know
straight
there.
People
do
know
the
difference.
I
can
tell
you
from
in
the
caribbean,
we
live
by
the
water
and
they
don't
fall
in.
F
You
know
they
don't
fall
in
you
know.
People
are
sensible.
Even
family
and
children,
you
know
and
so
yeah
I
wouldn't
like
to
see
any
barriers
there
obviously
can
can
raise
and
do
different
levels
so
and
different,
textures
or
gravel
or
whatever
so
people
know
the
difference.
So
that's
all
I
just
wanted
to
say
about
that
and
council
grow,
and
I
mentioned
to
her
already
about
the
studio
out
flats
and
that
she
already
mentioned
that
so
we'll
go
on.
M
Thank
you
right.
I
I'll
start
by
saying
I
I'm
very
very
heartened
by
the
attitude
of
the
the
proposers
here.
They
do
seem
to
be
no
the
moment
they
appear
to
be
listening
to
us,
and
so
I
I
hope
that
translates
into
the
proposal
that
we're
going
to
find
attractive
when
it
comes
as
a
proposal.
M
M
I
did
not
suggest
that
people
would
be
running
into
the
water
and
it's
frivolous
to
take
it
to
take
that
that
attitude
I
spent
last
25
years
until
I
couldn't
afford
a
boat
any
longer
floating
up
and
down
the
canals
of
great
britain,
and
you
would
be
surprised
how
many
people
do
step
off
canal
banks
into
the
canal
and
kids.
Do
it
more
frequently
than
grown
people?
The
caribbean
must
be
a
wonderful
place
if
everybody
from
little
babies
upwards,
don't
go
near
the
water,
but
I'm
not
asking
for
fences.
M
I
don't
think
I
mentioned
the
word
fence.
What
I
said
was
design
it,
so
that
was
trying
to
get
across
designed
it
so
that
people
aren't
not
not
people.
Sorry
children,
because
there's
a
big
difference,
don't
just
career
out
of
the
place
or
down
the
side
streets
into
the
water.
That's
all
I
ask.
A
Thank
you,
graeme
paul.
Please.
J
You
just
have
to
extrude
over
these
glasses
I've
just
about
mastered
them
for
zoom,
but
you
look
very
different
in
the
flesh,
so
they're
very
vocal.
So
you
can
imagine
how
you
look
in
the
flesh,
small
windows.
I
think
we've
been
encouraged
that
we
had
floor-to-ceiling
windows,
particularly
for
students.
Now
I
know
the
students
are
thick
a
lot
with
regards
to
windows,
but
you
know:
surely
a
smaller
window
may
mean
that
in
december,
you'll
have
to
have
the
light
on
longer,
so
you
will
be
using
more
electricity.
J
Does
it?
Is
it
counterproductive?
I
think
that
when
it
comes
to
the
full
application,
you'll
have
to
justify
yourself
and
ask
you
to
do
it
now,
but
I
think
that
I
know
you
said
about
the
first
20
centimeters
not
been
any
use
to
people.
I
can
see
that
at
the
first
few
levels,
but
when
we
get
onto
the
higher
stories
20
centimeters
is
not
20
centimeters
as
far
as
the
sun
is
concerned,
and
as
far
as
light
coming
in
is
concerned.
J
So
that's
my
that's
my
query
around
around
windows.
It's
not
a
question.
It's
just
something
I
think
you'll
have
to
justify,
because
we
are
told
that
floor-to-ceiling
windows
brings
in
a
lot
of
natural
light,
etc.
Balconies
I
am
with
councillor
growing
on
balconies.
I
think,
with
what
we've
gone
through
in
the
last
16
months.
Balcony's
particularly
internal
balconies,
is,
is
what
we
need
to
be
looking
for.
J
I
have
a
friend
who
has
a
nine
floor
flat
with
a
projecting
balcony,
which
I
do
not
like
to
go
on,
but
it's
been
her
own
space
because
she's
been
shielding
and
she
said
if
she
hadn't
had
that
she
would
have
gone
completely
mad,
because
it's
the
only
place
she's
been
able
to
sit
out.
You
know
not
with
anyone
else
but
sit
out
on
her
own.
There
isn't
room
for
anyone
else
or
not
balcony.
Anyway,
with
regards
to
the
materials,
I'm
I'm
with
council
stevenson
on
the
cgi.
J
Maybe
it's
a
cgi,
that's
not
right!
He
reminds
me
where
I
remember
that
building
from
I've
been
watching
too
many
only
fools
and
horses
during
lockdown,
but
that's
where
I
you
know
almost
over
1970s
apartment
blocking
tenerife.
It
seems
to
remember
it
from,
but
it's
so
long
since
I
got
the
terrorists
that
I've
probably
forgot
what
they
look
like,
but
it's
the
buff
brick.
I
think
I
think
you
know
the
the
buff
brick
doesn't
really
replicate
what
you
are
replicating
in
your
samples
of
bricking
leads.
There
isn't
any
buff
brick
we.
J
We
are
a
red,
brick
city
and
I
think
that
buff
brick
can
be
all
right
in
the
right
places,
but
I
think
you
just
have
to
look
at
manage
it
and
that's
that's
having
a
palette
in
front
of
us
and
and
preferably
I
expect.
We
would
like
to
see
that
as
a
little
wall
on
site,
rather
than
a
tablet
in
here
on
the
table.
So
I
think
that's
because
that
brings
me
on
to
site
visits.
Members,
don't
have
an
excuse
not
to
do
site
visits.
J
You
can
do
your
own
because
you
know
where
these
sites
are,
as
I
did
on
saturday,
and
so
I
I
saw
the
site,
and
I
and
I
say
that,
because
I
am
warming
to
council
lattice,
he
said
not
a
fence,
but
it
is
going
to
be
an
active
frontage
on
your
side,
but
not
the
toe
path.
The
toe
path
is
on
the
other
side,
and
I
can
tell
you
from
experience.
There
is
a
very
naughty
swan
on
that
side.
J
At
the
moment
that
is
attacking
everyone
who
passes,
including
including
me,
he
or
she
is
quite
a
and
but
she
would
be
an
attraction
to
children.
Children
who
saw
her
attacking
people
on
the
other
side
would
think
I
could
probably
get
around
there
and
deal
with
the
situation
better
than
the
people
passing.
So,
if
you're
going
to
put
player
facilities
on
there-
and
I
don't
I
don't
mind-
I
think
you
do
need
to
put
clear
facilities
for
the
benefit
of
the
families.
J
You
do
need
to
look
at
whether
they
would
be
left
unaccompanied
in
those
place
facilities,
because
it
would
be
someone
else's
back
garden,
particularly
in
the
lower
floors
where
they
may
allow
them
to
play
thinking
they
could
look
at
them.
You
only
need
a
split
second
to
be
in
that
canal,
and
I,
and
I
and
I've
done
a
lot
of
walking
on
the
canal
in
the
last
16
months,
the
whole
stretch
from
skipton
to
as
far
as
it
goes
on
further
and
no
no
the
other
way,
aaron
calder
down
some
metallic
junction.
J
I've
been,
I
won't
give
you
my
memoirs,
but
the
the
path
can
be
irregular
and
you
can
find
yourself
in
there
without
thinking
about
it,
and
particularly
if
you're,
a
five
or
six
year
old,
you
may
not
have
the
water,
and
I
appreciate
what
you
say:
sharon
about
the
caribbean,
but
none
of
us
can
get
there
at
the
moment
to
sample
it.
So
it's
a
shame
too.
Those
are
my
comments,
yeah
I'll
sure.
A
You
don't
get
comments,
I
don't
assume.
As
for
the
lisa
liverpool
canal
from
skipton,
I
used
to
do
all
my
marathons.
Training
from
skifton
trains
to
skipton
run
home
to
kirksville.
Just
showed
us
26
miles
wonderful
memories.
Moving
on
then
david.
A
K
As
another
person
that
you
have
to
do
with
the
training
on
that
stretch,
you're
nicking
out
yeah-
although
I
do
I
do
remember
a
colleague
of
mine-
up
in
a
collision
with
a
bicycle
and
both-
and
you
know
peeking
out-
but
that
was
their
fault
just
get
about
some
more
serious
things.
I
basically
like
to
see
an
increase
in
three
beds
and
a
lot
more
energy
information.
K
I've
got
to
say
what
you
said
to
end
and
answer
to
questions
was
was
very
good
and
I'm
really
encouraged
by
by
what
you're
saying
all
the
way
around.
So
I'm
generally
supportive.
K
I
think
we
need
to
see
materials
and
we
definitely
need
a
site
visit
when
it
when
it
comes
back
into
the
application,
but
second
and
everything
into
a
consideration,
I'm
fairly
supportive
of
this
scheme,
I'm
open
to
the
idea
of
having
more
balconies.
As
colleagues
have
said.
K
A
A
Moving
on
and
colin,
please.
L
Right
question
number:
one
is
principle
because
the
the
original
site,
if
you
recall,
was
an
office
development.
I
don't
think
any
of
us
have
expressed
a
view
in
relation
to
the
principle
of
changing
from
in
effect
office
to
to
residential,
particularly
given
the
the
developments
on
the
adjacent
site.
L
But
if
you
look
at
it
on
that
screen
and
that
screen
they're
actually
completely
different
colors
and
then
a
lot
of
the
other
stuff
which
sort
of
shows
the
relationship
between
the
the
views,
I'm
not
sure,
with
the
best
will
in
the
world
that
sort
of
gray
and
white
imagery
is
really
helping
us
get
a
picture
of
what
the
building
looks
like
and
I
do
think
looking
at
it.
L
You
know
it
looks
very
fussy
to
me
now
I'm
prepared
to
be
convinced
it
isn't,
but
it
does
seem
to
me
very
a
very,
very
fussy,
development,
I'm
not
mentioning
windows
etc,
because
I
think
we've
done
that
there
are
two
other
elements
that
slightly
concern
me
number
one
is,
and
I
hate
to
say
this.
I
actually
think
the
development's
wasting
the
canal
side
space.
L
When
the
rest
of
the
development
takes
place,
the
only
effectively
open
frontage
will
be
onto
the
canal
side.
The
the
side
that
goes
against
the
the
railway
viaduct
is
a
large
stone-built
wall
with
arches
in,
but
the
canal
side
is
open
and
on
the
opposite
side,
which
is
nice
and
green
on
here,
you've
got
a
really
nice
open
space
and
I
think
actually,
if
it
was
me,
I
would
actually
do
pull
that
pull
the
building
back
a
bit
to
make
more
use
of
that
spaces.
L
The
immunity
part
of
the
immunity
space
for
the
residents
and
visitors,
because
the
I
mean
the
the
space
next
to
the
canal
net
with
the
building
next
door,
where
the
yorkshire
post
is
he's,
is
almost
unusable.
L
I
like
paul,
I
actually
went
to
have
a
look
at
this
yesterday
and
it
really
is
almost
an
unusual
space.
It's
it's
a
path
down,
so
I'll
say
that
the
second
thing
relates
to
the
amenity
space
for
the
residents.
L
Now,
if
you
look
on
the
the
drawing
on
page
41,
there
appears
to
be
quite
a
substantial
amount
of
green
space
around
here,
but
most
of
that
green
space.
L
Quite
frankly
is
related
to
other
developments,
so
the
the
railway
viaduct
is
the
he's
part
of
the
development
that's
currently
being
undertaken,
and
I
forgot
what
it's
called,
but
it's
it's
the
one
on
the
opposite
side
of
the
viaduct
bridge,
the
bit
in
the
middle,
the
bit
by
the
canal
between
the
canal
and
the
rivers
and
all
the
development
that
we've
has
been
in
place
for
some
considerable
time.
L
The
space
around
the
building
that
the
yorkshire
posts
occupy
those
bits
of
green
space
are
talking
green
spaces,
they're,
not
they've,
no
value!
Really.
You
couldn't
use
them
for
anything,
but
they're
just
there
to
make
it
look
nice.
So
what
we're
talking
about
is
a
very
limited
area
of
space
for
residents
to
use,
and
that
concerns
me
really
because
we're
talking
about
there'll
be
about
500.
Well,
there
are
490
odd
units,
they'll
be
well
in
excess
of
five
600
people
living
here
and
okay-
probably
not
this
evening.
L
But
yesterday
was
quite
a
pleasant
evening
and
I
think
people
would
like
to
come
out
of
their
flat,
not
necessarily
sit
on
their
balcony,
but
actually
come
out
of
their
flat
walk
around
sit
on
the
grass
and
on
a
rough
well.
If
there
are
only
500
people
there
well
you're
only
getting
about
a
square
meter
of
space,
each
which
doesn't
seem
very
well
didn't,
seem
much
to
me
now.
I
think
you
could
tweak
this
design
and
I'll
say.
L
D
Thanks
chair
just
a
few
comments
I
had
to
one,
I
think
I
think,
actually
it's
pretty
good
development
for
what
is
a
small
site
that
you've
had
to
work
there
with
quite
a
lot
of
interesting
features
and
other
buildings
nearby.
I
completely
support
that
the
fact
that
this
is
moving
to
residential
because
I
think
office
buildings
in
the
city
centre.
We
may
see
some
reduction
in
that
we're
keen
that
the
city
center
obviously
stays
active.
D
So
if
people
are
still
living
in
the
city
centre,
then
then
that
works
looking
at
what
we've
got,
I
think
completely
supportive
of
the
approach
to
parking
on
this
development.
It's
not
needed.
It's
going
to
be
managed
in
terms
of
the
people
that
are
there
that
there
is
nowhere.
Really,
you
could
park
a
car
nearby.
So
I
think
if
you
were
here,
you're
not
going
to
park
your
car
for
a
pound,
every
20
minutes
in
the
short
stay
car
park
at
the
station.
D
Really,
if
you
end
up
bringing
one
and
you
haven't,
got
a
parking
space,
and
I
don't
really
see
that,
with
this
site,
you're
going
to
end
up
with
a
kind
of
venice
style
car
park,
two
miles
out
of
the
city
center,
where
everyone's
parking
them,
because
the
likelihood
is
you're
going
less
distance
to
wherever
you're
going
than
where
your
car
would
be
so
yeah.
D
I
I
take
david's
point
about
at
the
other
end
of
the
viaduct,
but
if
you're
going
to
the
supermarket
or
to
work
or
wherever
it's
probably
quicker,
to
walk
there
than
it
is
to
walk
and
get
your
car
from
somewhere
else.
There
is
obviously
car
club
if
anyone
wants
to
take
a
car
for
a
longer
journey.
The
point
about
the
canal
is
an
interesting
one,
because
there's
nowhere
barriers
along
the
canal
and
obviously
I've
got
large
amount
of
the
canal.
In
my
ward
up
near
rodley,
I've
never
seen
anyone
falling
in
it.
D
Actually,
that's
probably
something
I
would
support
more
than
putting
a
barrier
in
front
of
the
canal
in
that
aspect,
because
I'd
like
to
see
the
numbers,
maybe
if
we
looked
at
the
amount
of
people
that
have
been
injured
on
the
roads
in
leeds
and
the
amount
of
people
that
have
fallen
into
the
canal,
and
maybe
that's
a
perspective
that
that
we
should
take
on
that,
I'm
sympathetic
with
colin's
view
in
a
way
that
some
of
this
could
be
pulled
back.
D
Actually
that
the
point
that
I
was
thinking
of
is,
if
you
look
at
page
42
in
the
slide,
there's
a
quite
narrow
area
between
the
viaducts
and
the
building.
But
then
it's
a
shame.
It
then
widens
up
as
you
get
in.
It
would
be
nice
to
to
see
that
more
wide
aspect
alongside
the
viaduct,
to
see
those
cafes
to
see
that
frontage,
and
I
appreciate
that
you
need
a
certain
size
of
building
on
the
site,
but
I'd
rather
in
a
way
that
that
side
was
wider,
where
the
cafes
may
be
than
the
other
side.
D
As
colin
says
they
could
tweak
move
that
round,
and
that
could
be
a
really
nice
opening
from
the
canal
to
allow
people
to
come
out
to
the
canal
from
those
cafes
and
for
people
to
see
that
activity
in
there
in
the
green
space,
rather
than
it
being
hidden
away,
and
the
only
final
last
point
I'll
make.
I
think
you've
covered
this
in
a
way,
but
but
just
just
to
highlight
the
point
about
adapted
bikes,
strikes,
cargo
bikes,
etc
and
the
electric
bikes.
D
Obviously
there
are
stairs
if
somebody
can
take
their
bike
up
stairs
into
that
cycle
parking.
There
is
a
lift
if
you
want
to
use
it,
but
that's
incredibly
difficult
for
somebody
who
has
a
bike
but
has
to
then
maneuver
from
their
bike
into
their
wheelchair,
in
order
to
try
and
get
it
into
a
lift
etc
or
for
anyone
that
has
all
their
shopping
in
a
cargo
bike
to
then
try
and
maneuver
into
a
lift.
D
So
if
there's
any
way
providing
some
of
that
cycle
parking
on
the
same
level
as
the
car
parking
and
maybe
some
above
for
those
that
could
use
it,
then
then
I
I'd
like
that
being
looked
into.
But
overall
I
think
it's
a
pretty
good
development
when
I
first
saw
it,
I
did
have
concerns
about
the
look
of
it,
the
kind
of
brickwork
etc.
It's
growing
on
me
actually
so
I'd
like
to
see
more
as
it
goes
and
maybe
see
that
panel
before
I
make
a
judgment
on
that
thanks
chair.
H
Thank
you
chair,
I
don't
I
don't
mean
to.
I
don't
mean
to
bang
on
about
the
play
space
stuff,
but
I
would
like
to
say
just
briefly
like
I
think,
as
ward
members,
if
the
proposal
came
forward
for
all
play
areas
to
be
removed
from
our
wards,
there
would
be
uproar
about
it.
So
I
think,
on
that
basis
I
would
I
would
support
and
like
to
see
formalized
play
space
so
into
in
terms
of
the
materials.
I
think
I
I
agree
with
comments
that
have
been
made
like
it
is
quite
unclear.
H
What's
going
on,
I
am
I
am.
I
am
concerned
about
the
material
sort
of
competing
with
or
not
not
sitting
well
alongside
the
the
viaduct
and
possibly
other
structures
on
the
site
and
then
yeah,
just
just
echoing,
echoing
the
the
importance
of
making
it
as
easy
as
possible
to
cycle
and
walk,
and
I
think
definitely
the
having
having
enough
car
spaces
for
people
who
need
them
due
to
disability
or
or
other
issues
is
important,
and
I
I
feel
that
that's
the
correct
level.
H
I
think
I
think,
in
terms
of
the
one
and
two
bed
units
I
would
like
to
see
more
three
bedroom
units
yeah.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you
kaylee.
Could
we
turn
now
to
page
38,
please
and
there's
a
number
of
questions
that
officers
have
posed
for
members
the
first
one
being
do
members
consider
that
the
proposed
use
of
the
site
for
residential
accommodation
are
predominantly
one
and
two
bedroom
units
with
the
resulting
loss
of
potential
office
space
is
acceptable
in
principle
yep.
I
I
hear
your
comments.
It
has
been
captured
on
my
three
bedrooms.
H
Yeah,
sorry,
I
I
read
that
question
as
two
separate
questions,
because
there's
the
the
losing
of
the
office
space
and
then
there's
the
housing
mix
within
the
site.
So
it's
it
should
really
be
two
separate
questions.
B
A
C
Okay
yeah.
I
I
heard
during
the
discussion
that
a
one
bedroom
flat
is
exactly
the
same
space
standards
as
a
studio,
and
I
think
I
I
think
my
colleagues
would
agree
with
me.
We
would
rather
the
studio
flats
become
one-bedroom
flats.
A
I
think
that
has
come
out
in
comments
and
questions
yep,
okay
and
it
is
exactly
the
same
size.
You
write
a
free,
then
subjective
confirmation
of
detailed
proposals.
Do
members
support
the
emerging
approach
to
residential
immunity?
A
Well,
yep
again
we
have
fair.
We
have
supported
and
made
suggestions
on
it,
but
I
think
in
general
we
probably
do
yes.
Okay,
do
members
support
the
emerging
proposals
in
the
in
respect
of
design
scale
and
detailing.
E
C
A
For
mountain
conversation
for
officers
and
developers
to
consider
so
not
quite
put
nearly.
L
A
And
that
concludes
this
application.
It's
a
good
thing
that
we
did
abandon
the
90-minute
rule
colin,
as
you
pointed
out,
so
we
certainly
wouldn't
have
got
there
on
this
pre-app.
Would
we
but
thank
you
for
that,
and
thank
you
for
damian
and
richard
and
some
of
the
other
people
who've
come
in.
I
haven't
got
a
list
of
all
your
names,
but
thank
you
for
your
presentation.
A
A
A
Okay,
can
we
can
we
all
find
the
seats?
Please
there's
a
couple
of
members
who
are
pushed
for
time,
but
it
doesn't
matter
they
can
go
when
they
need
to
go.
It's
not
a
decision
making
it's
an
informative
one.
So
the
report
is
gen
item
nine
and
it's
on
page
forty,
three
abby.
Can
I
ask
you
to
present
this
report?
Please.
S
Thanks
very
much
chair.
Yes,
so
for
members
who
haven't
met
me
before
my
name
is
abby
modinovich,
I'm
a
senior
planner
in
the
policy
and
fans
group
and
I've
been
leading
on
the
preparation
of
the
temple
works.
Planning
brief,
which
is
what
I'm
here
to
talk
to
you
about
this
afternoon
and
I'll,
be
as
quick
as
I
can.
S
But
but
we
thought
it
was
an
opportunity
to
give
an
introduction
to
what
the
brief
is
is
seeking
to
achieve
and
what's
going
to
be
in
it
as
a
bit
of
an
informative.
I
suppose,
before
the
consultation
period
starts,
to
give
you
an
opportunity
to
provide
your
input
to
that,
as
well
as
through
the
formal
consultation
process.
S
The
intention
of
the
planning
brief
is
to
to
provide
a
consolidated
policy
framework
for
the
temple
district,
which
facilitates
supports
and
directs
comprehensive
regeneration
within
this
part
of
leed
south
bank,
to
establish
development
guidance
for
the
area
based
on
existing
planning
policy
and
guidance,
to
highlight
key
considerations
for
development
within
the
wider
area,
which
goes
beyond
the
temple,
works,
planning,
brief
boundary
or
beyond.
The
cd
said,
as
we
call
it
and
support
redevelopment
proposals
directly
linked
to
the
repair
and
stabilization
of
temple
works
in
an
enhanced
setting.
S
Finally-
and
I
suppose
last
two
to
set
out
a
strategy
for
regeneration
of
the
whole
area
and
and
critically
to
provide
cleric
clarity
for
developers
on
future
planning
applications
and
to
support
the
council's
aspiration
consideration
of
those
of
those
applications.
Sorry
next
slide
please.
S
S
The
comprehensive
development
zone
has
been
agreed
to
a
series
of
executive
board
resolutions,
as
the
area
needed
to
facilitate
comprehensive
regeneration
around
temple
works
itself
and
the
planning
brief
is
being
prepared
in
parallel
with
the
work
programme
led
by
the
regeneration
service,
to
support
the
stabilization
and
repair
of
temple
works
which,
as
we
know,
is
a
an
at-risk
grade.
One
listed
building
and
also
to
facilitate
a
british
library
north
at
the
site
which
members
will
have
been
appraised
of
over
recent
weeks,
and
that
includes
the
potential
use
of
compulsory
purchase
powers.
S
As
noted
in
the
executive
board
report
from
march
2021,
the
emerging
british
library
proposals
include
a
drawdown
of
25
million
pounds
worth
of
devolution
monies,
which
have
been
secured
to
support
the
work
of
the
council
and
the
british
library.
The
drawdown
of
initial
funding
to
support
temporary
stabilization
members
has
been
agreed
at
the
most
recent
executive
board.
Meeting
and
there's
gonna
be
further
legal
agreements
with
commercial
estate,
commercial
estates
group,
as
as
the
owner
of
temple,
works
and
a
major
landowner
within
this.
S
This
planning
brief
boundary
and
that's
going
to
be
taken
through
executive
board.
But
it's
important
to
give
members
that
context
in
terms
of
the
planning
brief
and
what
we're
seeking
to
achieve,
and
it's
all
tied
in
with
the
aspiration
which
has
been
long-standing
to
secure
a
sustainable
and
long-term
future
for
temple
works
itself.
S
Go
to
the
next
slide.
Please
thanks!
So
apologies
for
the
lines
on
the
map,
but
this
is
just
to
situate
temple
words.
The
temple
works,
comprehensive
development
zone
temple
district
within
its
wider
setting,
so
temple
work
sits
at
the
heart
of
it
and
you
can
see
it's
got
a
good
relationship
to
the
wider
city
centre.
It
sits
adjacent
to
marshall's
mill
and
the
round.
Foundry
is
also
next
to
the
the
tower
works
site,
which
is
just
started
on
site.
S
It's
also
in
close
proximity
to
the
residential
areas
of
holbeck,
but
suffers
from
quite
a
lot
of
severance
issues.
It's
not
very
easy
to
walk
from
from
the
residential
area
of
whole
back
up
into
this
part
of
the
city
centre.
That's
one
of
the
key
challenges
that
the
briefings
to
address
just
go
onto
the
next
slide.
Please.
S
This
is
an
image
of
the
site
allocations,
plan
allocations
and
identified
sites.
So,
with
the
exception
of
a
bit
of
road
space,
the
majority
of
the
the
district
is
allocated
or
identified
in
the
site
allocations
plan,
which
establishes
the
sort
of
principle
of
large
scale
redevelopment
of
this
area.
S
The
mx
235
allocation,
which
is
the
big
big
allocation
covering
temple
works
itself,
also
covers
land
to
the
south
of
sweet
street
due
to
the
importance
of
that
site
beyond
the
sort
of
cd's
head
boundary,
the
planning
brief
is
going
to
seek
to
provide
guidance
and
sign
posting
for
that
site
as
well,
because
it's
going
to
be
obviously
really
critical
that
that
site
comes
forward
in
a
way.
That's
complementary
to
the
overall
vision
for
the
temple
district
itself.
S
Next
slide,
please
and
then,
as
set
out
in
my
my
report
and
there's
a
significant
amount
of
planning
policy
and
guidance
that
covers
the
temple
district.
So,
as
well
as
the
development
plan
policies
that
we've
got,
we've
got
two
spd's
that
cover
this
area:
the
holbeck
south
bank
spd
from
2016
and
the
south
bank
legion
regeneration
framework
sbd,
which
is
from
2018.
S
It's
not
the
function
of
the
planning
brief
to
replicate
all
of
the
the
local
and
national
policy
and
related
legislation
which
may
be
relevant
to
temple
district,
whilst
in
the
planning,
brief
signposts
and
makes
use
of
existing
policy
and
guidance.
Emerging
policy
will
also
be
considered
where
relevant
at
the
time
of
a
future.
Application
is
submitted
next
slide,
please
so,
just
as
a
summary,
it
covers
seven
11.75
hectares
of
land
with
a
mix
of
uses,
it's
been
agreed
as
the
comprehensive
development
zone
for
land
surrounding
temple
works.
S
It's
got
a
number
of
staff
allocations
identified
sites.
It's
also
got
hold
the
conservation
area
that
covers
quite
a
large
proportion
of
the
site,
and
then
there's
there's
two
spd's
just
next
slide.
I've
just
got
some
images
for
you
now
in
the
absence
of
a
site
visit,
and
this
is
on
on
sweet
street.
Looking
back
towards
the
railway
next
slide,
please,
this
is
further
back
from
that
view.
S
You
can
see
the
commercial
in
on
the
left-hand
side,
which
is
identified
as
a
non
non-designated
heritage
asset
in
the
in
the
holbeck
neighborhood
plan
and
on
the
right.
You've
got
the
draper's
yard,
building,
which
was
formerly
the
1953
building
and
and
proposals
have
come
forward
for
that
site
too.
Next
slide,
please-
and
this
is
at
the
bottom
of
marshall
street,
looking
back
towards
the
wider
city
centers
on
the
left,
you've
got
temple
temple
works
itself,
which
you
can
see
has
got
some
scaffolding
supporting
it
at
the
moment
and
on
the
right.
S
You've
got
leodis
court,
which
has
got
light
industrial
uses
in
it
at
the
moment.
Next
slide,
please.
This
is
further
up
marshall
street.
Looking
back
towards
temple
work
so
on
the
left,
you've
got
the
famous
facade
of
temple,
temple
works
and
then
you
you're
looking
effectively
down
a
public
right-of-way
roux
which
connects
to
back
through
on
into
residential
holdback.
If
you
go
underneath
the
viaduct
at
the
other
end
of
that
next
next
slide.
Please
that's!
This
is
on
on
bath
road.
S
Looking
back
towards
marshall's
mill,
so
you've
got
marshall's
mill
redevelopment,
which
is
completed,
but,
as
you
can
see,
it's
it's
quite
an
unpleasant
environment.
At
the
moment
next
slide,
please
and
then
this
is
essentially
the
other
end
of
that
public
right-of-way
route.
That
goes
back
towards
temple
works
in
the
in
the
sort
of
on
the
left-hand
side.
You've
got
the
the
former
school
building,
which
is
a
listed
building,
and
then
you've
got
the
sort
of
the
cones
on
the
roof
of
temple
works
in
the
distance.
S
There
next
slide,
please,
and
then
this
is
just
a
sort
of
aerial
view
of
the
area
where,
as
much
of
the
areas
I
could
get
in
in
one
go
as
you
can
see,
it's
quite
a
lot
of
cleared
land,
but
you've
also
got
quite
dense
development
on,
on
the
right
hand,
side
of
the
image
there
with
temple
works
pointed
out
next
slide,
please.
S
So
the
ambition
for
for
the
temple
works.
Temple.
District
planning
brief,
is
the
creation
of
a
vibrant
and
distinctive
new
mixed
news.
Neighborhood,
which
acts
as
an
exemplar
for
sustainable
development,
enhances
the
setting
and
secures
the
future
of
an
internationally
significant
listed
building
and
delivers
on
a
long-standing
ambition
for
the
large-scale
regeneration
of
this
area.
As
a
focal
point
for
leeds
south
bank
and
and
the
report
that
the
panel
members
will
have
seen
has
got
quite
a
detailed
vision
in
it.
S
But
it's
essentially
all
pointing
to
that
aspiration
for
temple
works
and
making
sure
that
development
that
comes
forward
surrounding
that
is
complementary
to
the
aspirations
that
we've
got
for.
Temple
works
next
slide,
please
in
terms
of
the
structure
of
the
brief
and
this,
this
will
become
more
clear
when
it's
sent
out
and
shed
for
public
consultation
in
the
coming
weeks,
but
but,
as
you
would
typically
expect,
you've
got
the
introduction
which
clarifies
that
the
planning
brief
boundary
in
relation
to
all
the
planning
boundaries
in
the
area.
S
So
so,
as
I've
pointed
out
earlier,
it's
got
quite
a
number
of
interlocking
boundaries
that
cover
the
site
and
it's
important
for
the
brief
to
clarify
what
all
of
those
mean
and
how
how
they
interact
with
with
one
another.
The
instructions
also
clarifies
that
the
purpose
of
the
brief
the
status
of
the
brief,
which
will
ultimately
be
supplementary
planning
guidance
for
use
by
the
council
to
help
determine
planning
applications
in
terms
of
strategic
priorities.
S
It's
essentially
linking
the
aspirations
within
the
brief
to
the
the
council's
three
key
pillars
of
inclusive
growth,
the
climate,
emergency
and
health
and
well-being.
S
The
context
sets
out
that
the
history
of
temple
district,
what
the
site's
like
at
the
moment
and
the
surrounding
context
of
saying.
So,
how
does?
How
does
the
site
sit
within
the
wider
city
center
context
and
and
then
also
sets
out
the
planning
policy
framework,
so
go
into
a
little
bit
more
detail
about
what
those
planning
policies
are
for
the
area
and
the
development
context
in
terms
of
sort
of
a
planning,
application,
history
and
potential
barriers
to
delivery.
S
Next
slide,
please,
in
terms
of
the
the
structure
of
the
brief
then-
and
this
is
sort
of
the
meat
of
it-
is
the
development
guidance.
So
we've
got
high-level
principles
for
development
which
set
out
how
the
development
within
the
area
can
help
to
achieve
the
vision
that
we've
got
a
climate
ready
and
nature
friendly
approach,
and
what
I
mean
by
that
is,
is
essentially
championing
climate
ready
and
nature
friendly
principles
at
the
front
and
center
of
the
brief.
S
So
you
you
can
essentially
support
sort
of
multi-layered
infrastructure
delivery,
so
green
and
blue
infrastructure,
et
cetera,
along
with
active
travel
all
along
the
same
route.
So
you
get
that
layered
approach
to
infrastructure
delivery,
which
supports
active
travel,
etc.
And
so
that's
the
kind
of
approach
that
we're
adopting
within
the
brief.
S
So
there's
a
section
which
clarifies
what
we
mean
by
that
and
public
open
spaces
so
to
be
delivered
at
a
variety
of
scales,
including
landmark
public
square,
to
enhance
the
setting
of
temple,
works,
green
and
blue
infrastructure,
so
making
sure
that
that's
integrated
throughout
the
site
and
with
identified
opportunities
for
new
green
corridors
and
the
use
of
water,
giving
the
science
proximity
to
the
canal
and
to
the
river
biodiversity.
So
clarifying
our
expectations
for
biodiversity
net
gain
new
habitat
creation
as
part
of
a
wider,
green
and
blue
infrastructure
network
drainage
and
flood
risk.
S
So
providing
setting
up
priorities
for
drainage
solutions,
including
suds
and
mitigating
against
flood
risk,
ground
conditions
and
to
clarify
what
those
are
and
any
land
contamination
issues,
expectations
for
future
applications,
etc.
Sustainable
design
so
clarifying
the
needs
and
the
council's
priority
for
high
quality
and
sustainable
design.
In
line
with
the
core
strategy
requirements.
S
Connectivity
and
permeability
championing
improved
connectivity
within
the
site
and,
importantly
and
critically,
to
surrounding
residential
communities,
as
well
as
to
the
wider
city
centre
and
then
building
on
that
connection
to
local
communities.
So,
not
only
are
we
looking
at
physical
connectivity
to
local
communities,
but
also
trying
to
champion
improve
social
connectivity
alongside
that
with
opportunities
for
employment
and
skills
and
building
connections
with
any
cultural
assets
that
are
likely
to
be
developed
within
within
the
temple
district
uses.
S
So
setting
out
what
our
policy
expectations
are
for:
housing,
employment
and
supporting
cultural
and
leisure
uses
within
temple,
district
clarifying
the
core
strategies,
requirements
on
housing
mix,
affordable
housing,
accessible
housing
and
and
nationally
described
space
standards,
so
heritage,
supporting
heritage,
led
regeneration
and
and
the
use
of
regeneration
to
support
the
future
of
temple,
works
in
an
enhanced
setting
and
scale
and
massing
so
clarifying
what
what
appropriate
scale
and
matting
could
be
in
a
heritage
context
and
clarifying
fire
safety
expectations
and
wind
and
microclimate
considerations
and
then
finally
designing
local
characters
so
championing
high
quality
design.
S
In
line
with
our
policy
expectations.
Setting
out
those
key
views,
clarifying
the
expectation
for
new
identity
creation
and,
and
then
next
slide,
please
not
long
ago,
I
promise
so
in
terms
of
delivery.
Then
just
I
think
one
of
the
key
key
things
to
come
out
of
the
brief
is
that
we're
really
supporting
a
comprehensive
approach
to
development
informed
by
a
master
plan.
We
expect
that
that
master
plan
will
set
out
phasing
and
delivery
expectations.
S
S
However,
we
are
supporting
that
by
distributing
hard
copies
of
the
of
the
brief
at
local
destinations,
so
things
like
the
community
hubs,
etc,
as
well
as
local
community
based
organisations
that
have
agreed
to
put
put
an
executive
summary
of
the
briefing
in
their
food
parcels,
and
things
like
that
so
trying
to
get
the
message
out
through
a
variety
of
ways
that
we
will
be
doing
consultation
gonna
we're
going
to
do
three
three
online
webinars
on
the
brief
for
people
to
come
along
to
and
people
can
provide
feedback
via
the
usual
channels
and,
as
I've
mentioned
before
I'll,
be
coming
back
to
the
september
meeting,
to
provide
a
sort
of
detailed
overview
of
of
the
brief
once
you've
had
sight
of
it
and
had
time
to
consider
it
and
then
next
slide.
S
Please.
Finally,
just
just
next
step.
So,
in
terms
of
our
next
steps,
we're
going
to
proceed
to
the
consultation
and,
as
I
said,
bring
bring
that
full
brief
back
to
you
and
then
once
the
brief
has
been
finalized
after
consultation,
we'll
bring
it
back
for
a
third
third
time.
Just
for
you
to
note
that
the
final
version
of
it,
so
it's
ultimately
going
to
be
a
panel.
S
D
Thanks
chet
looking
at
the
area
and
it's
good
to
see
the
the
whole
area
being
being
covered
in
this
and
that's
welcome.
The
kind
of
streetscape
is,
is
what
I'm
gonna
touch
on
here
really
in
the
area.
You've
got
quite
a
lot
of
roads
with
narrow
pavements,
with
limited
other
cycle
infrastructure
or
anything
else
on
them
limited
levels
of
public
realm
in
and
amongst
those.
What
you
have
got
is
a
lot
of
burgeoning
small
businesses,
creative
businesses,
etc
and
residential
properties
and
a
few
bars
and
pubs,
etc.
D
That
are
quite
important
and
you've
got
a
lot
of
industrial
heritage,
obviously
around
it's
a
really
attractive
area.
When
you
look
up,
but
some
of
the
roads
aren't
really
helping
that
at
the
moment,
quite
a
lot
of
them
seek
to
provide
glorified
rat,
runs
or
ways
out
of
the
city
without
using
the
major
road
network
rather
than
the
rest,
and
I
think
I'd
just
like
to
hear
what
what
will
the
approach
be
on
rationalizing
really
some
of
those
routes
seeing
which
ones
are
important
local
routes
and
which
ones
may
not
be
needed.
D
S
Thanks
kelsey,
it's
a
really
important
point.
You
make
it's
really
salient:
it's
challenging
connectivity-wise
in
that
area.
It's
an
area
that
people,
like
you
say
rat,
run
through
and
don't
necessarily
stop
on
on
the
way
through
the
full
highways,
rationalisation
will
come
through
a
master
plan.
So
the
the
planning
brief
sets
out
principal
high
level
principles
for
what
we
want
to
see.
S
So,
like
you
say,
a
rationalization
of
the
road
network
making
sure
that
it's
better
for
pedestrians
and
cyclists
and
that
those
being
championed
within
the
area
and
that's
one
of
the
really
big
things
that
we're
trying
to
bring
out
through
the
brief
and
then
any
future
master
plan
will
have
to
deal
with
the
the
sort
of
detailed
reordering
of
the
roads.
So
it's
sort
of
a
stepping
stone
in
that
direction.
Within
the
brief,
with
the
final
details
to
come,
for
a
master
plan
and
and
through
planning
applications.
Ultimately,.
M
Chairman
the
currently
there
is
the
the
prospect
perhaps
of
temple
mills
becoming
used.
Shall
we
say
that
the
possibility
of
the
northern
library
is
there
anything
else
within
this?
Are
we
are
we
sort
of
touching
at
straws
or
trying
to
make
something
out
of
more
than
what
we've
really
got,
or
is
there
genuinely
broader
interest
around
this
this
site,
or
this
part
of
leeds
and
totally
unrelated
to
that?
M
Why
online,
based
due
to
kovid
19
restrictions,
we're
supposed
to
be
coming
out
of
it
and
and
we're
here
today?
M
Why
do
we,
and
presumably
an
awful
lot
of
us
are
consulting
with
our
board
residents
without
having
to
resort
to
online?
Why
can't
we
just
bite
the
bullet
and
get
stuck
in.
S
So
it's
in
terms
of
the
first
question:
there's
this
the
serious
attitude
from
or
interest
from
the
british
library
to
go
into
temple
works
and
that's
being
dealt
with
by
the
regeneration
team,
but
but
this
this
planet
brief
sits
in
in
that
wider
picture
of
british
libraries
aspirations
to
get
into
temple
works
and,
alongside
that
you're
going
to
get
quite
a
significant
amount
of
development.
That's
needed
to
support
that
proposal,
because
what
you've
got
with
temple
works
at
the
moment
is
quite
a
significant
conservation
deficit.
So
the
cost
of
repairing
temple
works.
S
It
far
outstrips
the
value
of
temple
works
once
it's
repaired,
so
to
be
able
to
support
proposals
for
temple
works
and
getting
british
library
into
temple,
works
you're,
going
to
see
quite
quite
a
significant
amount
of
development
and
that
that's
set
out
within
the
site
allocations
plan,
so
you've
got
an
allocation
that
covers
temple,
works
itself
and
a
wider
area
and
then
a
number
of
other
smaller
allocations
as
well.
S
So
there's
quite
a
lot
of
interest
in
in
the
wider
area
and
and
ceg
have
come
forward
with
the
proposal
between
globe,
road
and
water
lane
that
the
panel
will
have
considered
a
couple
of
years
ago,
and
that's
the
start
of
that
process.
Effectively
and
ceg
have
got
intentions
to
come
forward
with
a
number
of
other
sites
in
the
area
that
they
own
and
then
there's
other
land
ownerships
as
well.
S
So
there's
quite
a
lot
of
interest
in
development
within
within
this
area,
and
it's
important
for
the
planning
brief
to
sort
of
set
out
what
our
expectations
are
in
line
with
our
policy
requirements
for
that
area,
given
the
sort
of
changing
circumstances
over
the
last
five
years
in
particular,
and
then
on
to
the
second
point,
I
totally
appreciate
the
point
that
you've
raised
about
consultation.
It's
important.
We've
got
an
interim
statement
of
community
involvement
which
sets
out
what
our
expectations
are
for.
S
Consultation
engagement
and
the
consultation
will
be
done
in
line
with
that
we've
got.
We've
got
three
on
online
events,
but
also-
and
something
I
should
have
mentioned
in
my
presentation
actually,
but
I
forgot
to
do
so.
We're
going
along
to
an
in-person
event
as
well
on
holbeck
more
so
we
are
trying
to
do
both,
but
I
can
only
work
within
the
current
health
and
safety
guidelines
that
I've
got
as
a
member
of
staff.
So
I
will
be
doing
something
in
person,
but
it's
going
to
be
outside
to
try
and
get
that
balance
right.
S
K
I'll
take
it,
this
is
going
to
take
into
consideration
aspirations
that
we've
got
or
british
libraries
got
for
that
site
and
clearly
that
means
he's
got
to
be.
I
mean,
let's
go
back
30
years
ago.
I
used
to
go
to
work.
That
way.
K
I
said
that
I
have
to
run
training
regime
and
I
said,
go
past
there
and
certainly
where,
where
we're
talking
about
hasn't
improved
us
all
sin
since
then,
it's
just
got
stuck
the
endless
wheat
street
immensely
improved,
but
that
seems
to
have
got
stuck
and
the
thing
is:
is
we've
got
to
get
that
moving
and
we've
got
to
get
get
the
the
temple
works
back
in
operation
again
somewhere,
although
I
mean
last
time
I
would
in
that
which
must
be
with
this
committee
on
it
probably
three
or
four
years
ago
I
mean
it
would
have
been
a
little
bit
scaffold
then
so
it's
important
we
we
do
something
there,
but
I
I
take
it.
K
You
know,
like
colleen,
said
about
about
about
wild
appearance
and
stuff,
like
that,
the
kind
of
thing
you're
going
to
need,
if
you're
going
to
have
the
british
library
there
is
that
kind
of
thing
and
of
obviously
suitable
developments
that
are
appropriate
to
them.
S
Thanks
you're,
absolutely
right,
so
the
brief
is
essentially
setting
out
what
our
expectations
are
for
that
high
quality,
the
british
library.
As
I
understand
it,
are
particularly
keen
on
connectivity
and
trying
to
reinstate
some
of
that
connectivity.
I
don't
know
if
any
members
have
tried
to
walk
from
from
center
of
whole
back
up
into
the
area,
but
it's
not
not
an
attractive
walking
environment
in
any
in
any
way,
shape
or
form.
S
And
so
so
one
of
one
of
the
things
that
they're,
really
particularly
keen
to
see
is,
is
making
sure
that
those
connections
are
there
and
that's
something
that
we'll
be
we'll
be
setting
out
sort
of
in
more
in
more
detail
in
the
brief.
But
this
is
what
this
is
all
about.
S
It's
about
making
sure
that
we're
we're
getting
our
expectations
for
high
quality
out
into
the
public
domain,
so
that
developers
have
got
a
clear
understanding
of
what
our
expectations
are
in
terms
of
proposals
that
come
forward
in
the
area
to
provide
that
enhanced
setting
for
temple
works
and
to
give
the
british
library
the
comfort
that
they
need
that
they've
got
a
high
quality
high
class
development.
A
high
quality
building,
sorry
for
their
future
proposals.
A
Thank
you,
abby
colin.
Please.
L
L
My
recollection,
I
mean
past
it
this
week
is
that
actually
works
taking
place
there?
They
do
see
that
development
seems
to
have
at
long
last
started.
So
I'm
not
sure
we
really
need
to
worry
unduly
about
that
end
of
the
of
this.
It's
it's
the
rest
of
it.
That
perhaps,
is
an
issue.
L
I
suppose
two
points
firstly,
and
I'm
just
wondering,
given
the
size
of
some
of
the
stuff
that
we've
been
asked
to
agree
with
in
the
city
center
and
the
importance
of
temple
works
in
particular,
which
is
really
the
centre
of
this.
Isn't
it
are
we
thinking
about
perhaps
some
sort
of
height
restriction
around
it,
so
it's
not
swamped
by
a
lot
of
tall
buildings
and
just
picking
up
on,
I
think,
peter's
point
about
pavements,
etc.
Why
don't
we
just
talk
about
doing
something,
really
radical
and
saying
this.
L
L
So
the
whole
idea
about
any
development
on
this
site
is
that
the
hierarchy
is
not
the
hierarchy
we've
had
in
the
past,
which
is
car
people,
it's
people,
car,
so
that's
cycling
and
walking,
and
it's
not
a
huge
area
and
I
think
it's
an
area
I've
been
you
know,
we
have
been
down
to
look
at
temple
works
on
several
occasions.
Haven't
we,
but
that
whole
bit
of
holbeck?
I
think
there
lends
itself
to
something
to
looking
at
in
a
different
way,
and
I
just
wonder
if
this
might
be
the
opportunity
to
do
that.
S
I
think
I
think,
when
members
see
the
full
draft
of
the
brief
they'll
see
that
we've
prioritized
that,
and
I
hope
you
provide
those
comments
to
us
as
part
of
the
consultation
process
that
we
can.
We
can
as
well
as
noting
them
today,
take
them
into
account
as
part
of
the
part
of
the
consultation
in
terms
of
the
whole
building's
question.
S
It's
identified
well,
parts
of
the
district
identified
within
the
draft
tool.
Buildings
spd
is
a
preferred
area
for
tall
buildings,
and
what
that
does
is
helps
you
to
generate
the
viability
that
you
need
to
meet
that
conservation
deficit
that
I
talked
about
in
terms
of
the
restoration
proposals
for
temple
works.
S
So
it's
inevitable
that
you're
going
to
get
some
some
tall
buildings,
but
how
they
relate
to
temple
works
is
absolutely
critical
and
the
brief
sets
out
in
some
detail
how
that
can
be
achieved
and
that's
been
that's
been
done
alongside
the
conservation
team
and
with
with
with
historic,
england's
input
through
the
conservation
team
as
well,
so
that
there's
that
those
considerations
be
taken
into
account.
But
inevitably
you
have
to
to
get
the
generate
the
viability
from
from
somewhere.
S
In
terms
of
getting
temple
works
over
the
line,
but
in
terms
of
the
pedestrian
and
cycle
psycho,
which
totally
agree
with
the
points
that
have
been
raised
back
by
members
and
and
hopefully
you'll
see
that
we've
tried
to
do
that
through
the
brief,
in
terms
of
active
travel
being
being
the
priority
for
this
area
because
of
its
location.
To
you
know
it's
part
of
the
city
centre
and
relationship
to
the
wider
city
centre
as
well.
J
J
And
it
doesn't
change
since
then,
and
and
you
you
hit
on
it
with
answering
counts
comes,
but
there
has
to
be
some
viability
come
through,
and
so
as
much
as
I
want
high
quality
development,
there
are
a
lot
of
things
that
have
to
be
considered
in
the
brief.
Should
there
not
be
running
alongside
an
enabling
plan
to
ensure
that
both
the
development
takes
place
and
that
the
phasing
is
in
some
way
stuck
to
it's
not
going
to
be
easy,
but
it
has
to
happen
and
it
has
to
happen
in
its
entirety.
J
Otherwise,
we'll
have
something
pop
up
and
sit
there
on
its
own
forever
and
ever
and
ever
and
everything
else
around
it,
and
then
that
will
fall
by
the
wayside
and
not
generate
other
stuff
because
it
can't
generate
each
other
because
it
just
needs
to
that's
to
be
the
viability
and
temple
works
is
a
centre
of
it,
and
that
won't
happen.
Unless
there
is
a
stuff
around
it.
J
I
guess
because
I
guess
the
british
library
will
not
come
unless
they
have
got
guarantees
and
we
need
to
make
sure
that
as
much
as
we're
getting
maybe
something
different,
maybe
yeah.
It's
all
pedestrian
cycles
and
scooters
or
whatever.
If
that's
going
to
be
delivered,
then
I'm
all
for
it.
But
if
it's
going
to
get
half
delivered
and
then
be
left
in
a
half-finished
state,
it's
not
going
to
please
anybody.
S
Thanks
counselor,
that's
really
important
and
he
raised
a
really
really
critical
point
there.
I
think
if
my
regeneration
colleagues
were
here,
I
think
they
would
probably
say
what
I'm
about
to
say,
which
is
which
is
the
proposal
that
we've
got
from
from
ceg
at
the
moment
with
relation
to
temple.
Works
is
probably
the
most
realistic
and
viable
option
that
we've
got
for
bringing
temple
works
back
into
to
proper
and
long-term
future
for
the
for
the
building,
and
I
think
taking
that
comprehensive
approach,
which
is
what
the
the
planning
brief
tries
to
advocate.
S
So
you
look
rather
than
looking
at
individual
sites
within
that
red
line
boundary
on
their
own.
You
look
at
the
site
as
a
whole.
It
enables
you
to
to
generate,
I
suppose,
the
the
the
more
strategic
considerations
like
pedestrian
cycle,
accessibility
and
green
and
blue
infrastructure
and
take
those
into
account
from
from
a
sort
of
a
bit
of
a
step
back
which
helps
you
rather
than
trying
to
secure
these
things
on
a
side-by-side
basis.
A
Thank
you.
I
haven't
seen
any
more
hands
for
questions.
C
Yes,
a
minor
one,
but
something
I'm
quite
keen
on.
There
is
a
photograph
of
the
commercial
public
house
and
it
is
quite
architecturally
pleasing.
Have
you
got
any
plans
to
incorporate
that
into
a
future
development?
C
What
I
am
concerned
about
is
that,
generally
in
this
area-
and
we've
just
had
a
previous
application
as
well-
it's
just
tall
buildings,
flats
and
so
on,
no
shops
no
facility
for
people.
I
would
have
thought
that
would
could
make
a
very
good
feature
if
it
was
obviously
refurbished.
C
S
That's
that's
castle.
That's
right!
The
whole
bek
neighborhood
plan,
which
was
adopted
back
in
I
think
it's
2018
identifies
the
commercial
pub
as
a
non-designated
heritage
asset,
so
so
proposals
coming
forward
within
within
that
wider
area
we'll
need
to
take
that
into
account
as
part
of
part
of
the
the
development
proposal.
S
As
I
said
during
my
presentation,
this,
the
land
south
of
sweet
street
west
doesn't
fall
within
the
comprehensive
development
zone
for
temple
works,
but
but
does
form
a
really
really
critical
site
in
terms
of
delivering
that
wider
vision
for
this
part
of
the
south
bank,
and
so
we've
set
out
quite
quite
detailed
guidance
for
that
site
related
to
proposals
and
policies
that
are
already
in
existence
through
the
development
plan
and
planning
supplementary
planning
documents.
S
Sorry
but
but
that's
definitely
pointed
out
as
a
consideration
like
like
you
say,
because
it's
quite
important
that
that's
taken
into
into
account
and
then
just
just
in
terms
of
your
point
about
about
the
the
facilities
and
services
that
are
available,
that
the
brief
advocates
for
mixed-use
development.
So
you're
not
you're,
not
just
getting
residential
you're,
getting
a
mix
and
blend
of
uses
which
could
include
facilities
and
services.
Supporting
that
development
in
the
future.
And
that's
something
that
the
brief
brief
notes
and
takes
into
account.
E
I'd
just
like
to
ask
about
the
consultation
and
the
form
that
it's
going
to
take,
because
we've
had
quite
a
interesting
and
wide-ranging
debate
today
and
if
you're
going
to
be
doing
it
mainly
online,
is
it
going
to
be
agree,
disagree
or
yes,
no
questions?
How
are
you
going
to
gather
information?
That's
finely
tuned
enough
to
inform
you
about
this.
You
know
very
wide
array
of
and
overlaying
issues.
S
Thanks
thanks
council
agreement,
it's
certainly
not
going
to
be
agree.
Disagree
questions.
I
I've
tried
to
keep
it
open,
so
people
can
comment
on
whichever
part
of
the
brief
that
they
want
to.
In
terms
of
the
webinars,
I
was
going
to
do
a
short
presentation
just
setting
out
the
key
headlines,
but
but,
as
members
will
soon
see,
it's
very
detailed
and
quite
a
long
document,
and
I
apologize
in
advance
for
that.
S
But
we've
got
an
executive
summary
that
sits
alongside
it,
which
provides
a
summary,
but
but
I
was
going
to
do
a
sort
of
20,
10
20
minute
presentation
and
then
invite
an
open,
open
discussion
so
not
seeking
to
shut
down
debate
in
any
way
but
having
an
open
and
honest
conversation.
So
people
can
ask
the
questions
that
they
want
to
ask
and
go
away
and
make
their
comments
as
appropriate,
so
so
trying
to
keep
it
open
or
honest
and
certainly
not
trying
to
shut
down
any
any
debate
in
any
way.
S
At
the
at
the
open
session,
the
in-person
session.
Again,
it's
going
to
be
an
opportunity
to
discuss,
rather
than
rather
than
answer,
don't
tick
any
boxes.
Do
you
agree,
do
you
not
agree
type
type
thing
which
is
which
is
the
way
I
think
it
should
be
appropriate
in
terms
of
something
that's
that's
as
complex
and
as
as
strategic
as
this,
so
so
trying
to
trying
to
to
keep
it
open
and
with
opportunities
to
comment
on
whatever
people
want
to
comment
on.
S
So
there's
a
range
of
people
there's
there's
developers
and
landowners
that
have
got
sites
within
the
area.
There's
there's
a
entrenched
businesses
within
temple
district
itself,
so
you've
got
quite
a
lot
of
businesses
that
operate
out
of
the
the
viaduct
arches
mechanic-type
businesses.
You've
also
got
quite
a
lot
of
businesses
within
marshall's
mill
and
the
round
foundry
and
a
number
of
businesses
along
globe,
road
and
water
lane.
So
they're
going
to
be
some
of
our
stakeholders
as
well
and
we'll
be
going
out
to
some
statutory
type
countries.
S
So
people
like
the
historic
england,
the
environment
agency
and
things
like
that,
also
with
residents
within
holbeck
and
beeston
hill,
because
they're
the
sort
of
closest
residential
communities
that
you
get
as
well
as
any
operational
neighborhood
forums
within
the
area
and
so
residents,
businesses
or
other
stakeholders
as
as
needed
and
as
appropriate
and
obviously
ward
members
will
be
included
in
that
as
well.
And
we
have.
We
have
been
in
in
consultation
with
the
ward
members
throughout
the
preparation
of
the
brief.
M
M
S
A
Thank
you.
Can
we
go
back
then,
to
the
recommendation
and
as
you'll
note,
there
is
plenty
of
work
for
this
panel
to
consider.
We
will
be
consulted
in
september
and
we
will
have
the
planning
brief
some
time
after
that.
Is
there
a
is
there
a
rush
for
this
abbey?
Is
it
does
it
need
to
happen?
It
seems
to
be
fairly
quickly
from
now
on
to
to
get
a
planning
brief
or
a
planning
permission
before
this
panel.
S
So
in
terms
of
getting
the
brief
before
you
it's,
I
think
it's
part
of
a
wider
strategy.
So,
as
I've
mentioned
in
my
presentation,
there's
this
potential
use
of
compulsory
purchase
order
powers
taking
place
in
within
within
the
area
and
that
that's
out
in
the
report-
and
I
think
it's
part
of
a
wider
strategy.
So
the
the
planning
brief
will
come
first
as
a
stepping
stone
to
to
to
future
pre-application
submissions
from
from
developers
as
well
as
full
application
submission.
So
it's
part
of
that
part
of
that
wider
strategy
in
terms
of
the
dates.
S
A
Thank
you
for
that.
Many
of
us
around
the
table
have
looked
at
this
site
for
many
years.
We
had
applications,
as
david
said
earlier
and
colin
also
said,
so,
we're
absolutely
delighted
that,
hopefully
we'll
be
moving
forward
I'll
keep
my
fingers
crossed.
You
never
take
too
much
for
granted,
but
I
think
it's
a
real
draw
if
we
can
bring
the
british
library
in,
I
won't
ask
what
happens
to
the
british
library
in
weatherby
ryan.
What
what
is
albans
staying
is
that
it's
good
news.
A
A
It's
a
huge,
huge
opportunity
from
the
city
and,
as
david
said,
nothing
has
changed
for
15
years
those
photographs
of
dark
arches,
and
I
you
probably
took
them
on
a
very
poor
day,
but
I
mean
that's
what
it
looks
like
most
of
the
time,
so
I
think
you've
captured
that
rather
well,
but
thank
you
again
for
your
presentation
and
with
that
I
can
conclude
that
that
ends
the
meeting.
Just
to
remind
you.
A
The
date
of
the
next
meeting
is
the
2nd
of
september
at
1
30.,
but
it's
likely-
and
I
shall
be
doing
my
bit-
that
we'll
have
a
side
visit
that
morning
as
well.
I
don't
know
how
we're
going
to
manage
it,
we'll
have
to
we'll
have
to
satisfy
the
covert
security
police,
but
we'll
manage
it
somehow.
A
I
just
say
on
that
one
that
we
do
see
the
images
on
television
when
we're
at
the
actual
panel,
but
it's
handy
having
these
at
home
when
it
comes
with
the
agendas,
so
we
can
look
at
it.
You
know
and
perhaps
study
it
a
bit
more
carefully
than
we
can
around
there.
You
know
next
slide,
please
we
have
a
minimum
of
one
two
minutes,
maybe
for
each
one.
So
I
think
it
has
a
value,
but
you
know
unless
people
are
telling
me
otherwise
I'd
I'd
argue
that
we
should
continue
peter.
D
J
D
Don't
mind
if
they're
emailed
or
not,
but
I
think
we
should
upload
the
presentations
to
public
access
as
we
have
been
doing,
which
I
don't
think
we
did
previously
before
the
panel
and
members
should
receive
the
the
copies
of
them,
so
they
can
look
at
the
cgis
etc.
Otherwise,
as
you
say,
we
get
here,
we
get
a
minute
to
look
at
the
picture
which
we
haven't
seen
beforehand.
So
that's
been
a
real
benefit
out
of
the
approach.
A
Liz
isn't
here
so
she
can't
answer
that
question
john.
Do
you
have
any
comments
on
it.
I
It
definitely
has
a
value,
it
has
a
value
to
members.
That's
clear.
It
also
has
an
impact
in
terms
of
workload
for
offices
as
well.
So
the
intention
was
to
take
all
of
these
types
of
issues
to
the
next
joint
chairs
meeting
for
discussion
about
what
we
sort
of
carry
on
with
or
what
we
now
relinquish
now
that
we're
back
in
the
room
as
it
were.
I
A
And
graham
said
on
the
design
workshop,
but
there
isn't
there
isn't
a
chairs
meeting,
it's
been
cancelled,
12th
of
august
till
the
end
of
august.
So
I
guess
what
we'll
we
will
get
these.
We
will
get
these
for
the
next
meeting
and
then
we'll
take
it
from
there.
A
Such
a
delight
to
have
you
all
around
one
table,
I've
really
enjoyed
it.
Honestly,
it's
it's
fantastic.
So
thank
you.
I
know
we.
We
were
a
bit
long-winded
on
our
applications
longer
than
normal,
but
every
question
and
every
comment
was
very
valuable
and
thank
you
for
that
safe
tune
at
home.