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A
Welcome
to
this
meet
every
good
afternoon,
and
everyone
is
welcome
to
this
meeting
of
South
and
Westland
final.
My
name
is
counselor
Eileen,
Taylor
and
I'll
be
chairing.
Today's
meeting
could
I
remind
everyone
that
today's
meeting
has
been
live,
streamed
and
deleted
Council
YouTube's
channel,
so
that
the
public
can
observe
this
meeting
without
need
to
be
present.
South
and
Western
panels
deals
with
application
from
the
south,
Northwest
and
west
of
the
city.
The
aim
of
the
panel
is
to
hear
all
the
relevant
information
from
applicants.
A
A
Thank
you
welcome
Council,
coming
to
what
I
think
you're
subbing
for
someone
yet
and
we're
moving
to
the
agenda
and
over
to
You
Tasha
over
to
you.
K
Thanks
Chad
writing.
One.
There's
no
appeals
agenda
item,
two:
there's
no
exempt
items
agenda
item:
three,
no
formal
letter
items,
gender
items
and
Falcon
members
declare
any
interests.
Thank
you
agenda
item.
Five.
Apologies
from
council's
Campbell
and
Smith
Council
Cohen
is
here
in
place
of
council
Smith
and
not
an
apology,
but
we
welcome
councilor
Jenkins
to
the
board
as
well.
K
A
Keep
missing
that
I'll
just
now,
yeah
I
know
it's
not
an
air.
Is
it
there?
Okay,
could
we
move
into
item
six
minutes
of
the
previous
meeting?
It
has
been
a
while,
since
we
had
our
last
meeting
I
think
it
was
in
February,
so
take
it
that
members
I've
read
the
minutes.
Are
there
any
comments,
agree
with
them.
N
G
Well,
it's
a
matter
arising
really
from
item
six,
a
gender
identity
switches
on
item
82,
so
it
was
resolved
to
defer
the
application.
I
just
wondered
what
progress
has
been
made
with
regard
to
the
deferment
and
what
the
time
scale
is
like
to
be.
M
There's
been
a
number
of
meetings
on
site
about
the
bridge
and
its
operation,
although
I'll
stress
again,
as
I've
done
so
many
times
before,
because
of
the
nature
of
the
conditions,
the
bridge
is
not
actually
directly
related
now
to
the
decision
making
on
the
application,
but,
as
you
say,
it
was
deferred
principle,
the
layout
and
design,
and
we
are
aware
that
there's
some
new
information
that's
been
submitted
with
regard
to
the
design
work,
particularly
on
the
properties
that
back
onto
the
canal
itself
in
terms
of
the
compliant
house
tax
in
terms
of
policy
I'm,
not
100,
sure
of
that
they
have
changed
some
of
the
Green
Space,
particularly
onto
the
entrance
to
the
site
as
well,
and
we've
had
discussions
about
the
inappropriate
parking
and
what
measures
can
be
prevented
to
stop
parking
actually
on
Pavements,
although
I'm
not
sure,
that's
something
we
can
pursue
that
are
still
outstanding
consultations
that
are
required.
A
B
O
N
N
B
The
former
Burley
library
and
the
erection
of
a
six-story
extension
to
create
a
78
bed
space,
clear
living
scheme
with
Associated
communal
facilities
at
an
okay
working
hub
just
give
some
background
on
cable
living
co-living
is
an
emerging
Farm
attendant
within
the
housing
market,
and
although
there
is
some
operational
schemes
in
London-
and
this
is
still
new
to
most
core
cities,
including
Leeds
co-living,
is
targeted
at
the
recent
graduate
Market
consultancy
type
workers
who
only
need
to
be
in
a
particular
location
for
a
few
moments,
key
workers
who
work
in
City,
centers
and
and
also
recent
in
Commerce
to
cities
who
don't
necessarily
want
to
rent
on
their
own
or
know
anyone
to
house
share
with.
B
B
Residents
rely
on
or
are
actively
encouraged
to
use
share
facilities
as
part
of
their
overall
management
and
shared
living
approach.
There's
a
single
management
operator
on
site
on-site,
Management,
Services,
flexible
tenancies
and
all-inclusive
rents,
and
generally
co-living
schemes
are
situated
within
town
and
City
centers
that
are
close
to
employment
hubs
and
concentrations
and
and
Native
transport
Networks.
B
The
draft
co-living
technical
planning
guidance
now,
which
was
which
was
considered
development
pun's
plan
in
April,
defines
co-living
as
large-scale
purpose-built
and
managed
residential
blocks
comprising
private
living
units
with
extensive
extensive
communal
facilities
under
a
single
management
company.
B
As
Chad
mentioned,
members
will
recall
that
the
applications
were
presented
to
plans
panel
as
a
position
statement
in
November
2022
to
seek
opinions
on
the
co-living
concept
together
with
detail
planning
issues,
but
the
plans
have
been
amended
and
further
developed
in
response
to
the
position
statement
discussions.
B
Finally,
the
applications
are
brought
to
plants
panel
as
opposal.
It's
not
fully
compliant
with
the
development
plan
and
raise
policy
issues
that
go
beyond
that
kind
of
of
local
concern.
I'll
move
on
to
the
presentation.
There
are
a
number
of
additional
slides
which
aren't
in
your
packages
whether
there
are
a
few
additional
slides.
B
The
application
makes
two
the
Billy
library
site,
which
is
located
on
cardigan
Road
between
you
can
see
the
center
of
the
well
I'm,
not
using
pointer
between
the
environment,
development
to
the
South
and
the
Glassworks
student,
purpose-built
student
accommodation
to
the
north.
As
you
can
see
in
the
center
of
the
site,
there
The
Wider
The
Wider
areas,
predominantly
residential
in
character,
with
a
small
amount
of
commercial
and
Retail
retail
uses.
B
The
site
is
located
between
Burley
Park
logic,
fairly
Park
Early,
Lodge
Park
to
to
the
Easter,
and
then
you
can
see
the
large
Burley
Park
to
the
on
the
opposite
side
of
the
and
the
railway.
Just
further
enough
to
come
here
is
Burley
Park
station
and
beyond
that
hasn't
Town
Center
in
cardi
the
cardingham
road
Center.
B
This
is
an
area
of
the
site
you
can
see.
You
can
see
from
this
that
the
site
is
located
between.
B
As
I
said,
the
the
classworks
development
in
the
embankment
development
on
the
side
of
the
site,
the
the
applicant,
is
in
ownership
and
control
of
all
all
the
buildings,
and
you
can
see
that
the
the
library
building
is
located
between
them
with
car
parking
to
the
side
and
rear
you'll,
see
from
this
that
there's
there's
pedestrian
access
to
Burley
Park
across
the
the
railway,
immediate
adjacent
to
the
Glassworks
building,
so
some
street
views
of
of
the
site.
This
is
this
is
a
view.
B
Looking
down
cardigan
road,
you
can
see
the
embankment
before
sorry
about
Batman
building
to
the
rear
there,
and
you
can
see
that
the
ability,
Library
building
is
isn't
needed.
Some
work.
Is
it
it's
in
a
tired,
State
and
you
can
see
this
is
where
the
vehicle
accesses
to
the
site.
B
And
this
is
a
view
back
along.
According
around
the
other
way,
you
can
see
the
four-story
embankment,
building
the
the
library,
the
grade
two
list
of
the
library
and
then
beyond
that
the
classworks
development
was
just
four
or
five
and
six
story
in
height,
so
moving
on
to
the
scheme,
this
shows
the
extended
development
proposed.
The
Proposal
is
to
retain
and
restore
the
the
library
at
the
greatest
list
of
the
library.
B
You
can
see
that
the
site
shown
in
pink
and
then
then
extension
to
the
rear
of
the
library
with
a
six-story
extent,
extension
extension
to
the
rear,
so
that
just
clearly
shows
the
the
promises
of
the
development
proposed
in
terms
of
what
what
was
proposed,
because
you
can
say
that
the
the
the
early
library
is
is
retained
and
restored
and
and
to
its
original
condition
and
the
the
extension
is
located
to
the
rear
of
the
the
building.
You
can
see
now
it's
it's.
B
It
steps
it
steps
back
on
from
the
Library
building
and
then
begins
to
step
back
as
well
as
as
you
get
up
the
stories.
This
is
the
front
elevation.
It
also
shows
in
context
with
the
with
the
adjacent
buildings
you
can
see.
B
You
could
see
it's
it's
a
comparable
to
the
the
the
the
scale
of
the
classworks
The
Proposal
is
for
heavily
glazed
front
elevation
to
the
to
the
to
the
extension
and
to
to
allow
it
to
appear
to
float
and
to
be
very
much
a
contemporary
Edition,
but
a
subservient
addition,
albeit
a
large
extension.
N
B
This
is
a
a
visual
of
the
the
proposal
it
has
to
developed
slightly
from
from
this,
but
the
The
Proposal,
as
you
can
see
here,
is,
is
to
extend
the
the
the
the
extension
at
the
early
library
to
the
rear.
There
I
had
an
active
conditional
side
there
with
taking
the
the
Brick
detail
detailing,
through
with
it,
within
the
extension
of
above
that,
with
a
heavily
glazed
as
I
say,
and
a
gray
vertical
cladding
to
to
the
to
the
extension.
B
As
you
say,
it's
it's
a
traditional
approach
to
the
Burley
library,
with
a
overtly
contemporary
approach
to
the
extension.
B
So
it
seems
to
have
there
we
go.
This
is
the
the
layout,
the
layouts
on
the
ground,
the
ground
for
of
The
Proposal.
As
you
can
see,
access
is
there
to
the
Norfolk
building
and
to
access
to
24
surface
car
parking
spaces.
The
main
early
Library
building
is
is
to
be
made
into
a
co-working
space.
B
You
can
see
that's
donated
in
pink
there
with
mezzanine
K
working
units
shown
in
in
in
in
the
Lilac
there,
they're
all
30
square
meters
and
to
the
rear,
there's
pedestrian
the
access
to
the
to
the
building
in
a
small
area
of
outdoor
amenity
space.
B
B
Just
moving
on
to
the
the
layout,
the
layouts
of
the
scheme,
you
can
you
can
say
this
is
the
proposal,
and
this
is
the
the
first
floor.
This
show
is
15
of
the
co-living
units
across
the
site.
Each
each
unit
is
30
square
meters
of
private
living
in
space.
You
can
see
from
this
it.
Each
each
room
has
a
large
window,
two
windows,
three
windows
and
a
number
of
the
the
units
have
so
double
aspects
where
they
were
on
the
counterpart,
so
there's
good
natural
light
and
outlook.
B
For
me,
each
of
the
rooms
each
floor
has
a
communal
space
and
that's
this
is
in
the
Lilac
there,
which
provides
kitchen
space
and
sitting
areas
and
an
outlaw
Terrace
into
each
well
to
eat
each
communal
communal
facility,
just
showing
a
show
on
each
floor
that
this
is
the
second
and
third
floors.
These
are
exactly
the
same
layout
as
as
as
the
first
floor
with
15
units
on
each
floor.
B
You'll
see
from
this
that
there's
a
communal
space
at
the
front
of
the
building
has
got
communal,
Terraces
and
then
a
number
of
the
front-facing
units
have
have
their
own
private,
private,
Terraces.
B
Just
move
on
and
just
finally
the
the
the
final
fourth
and
fifth
floor
is.
This
is
where
the
scale
diminishes
slightly.
The
the
fourth
floor
has
14
14
units,
all
50
square
meters
and
the
same
with
the
fifth
floor.
That's
that's
12,
that's
12
and
that's
as
as
the
building
is
to
step
back
obviously
looks
at
the
floor
on
reduces
in
size.
B
This
is
just
to
compare
how
the
application
is
has
developed
through
through
application
process.
Originally,
it
was
submitted
as
98
units,
and
this
was
in
response
to
some
some
rough
guidance
at
the
time
which
was
looking
at
units
of
22
23
square
meters.
B
We
officers
were,
we
had
a
lot
of
concerns
about
this
scheme.
We
felt
that
it
it
it.
It
was
cram
facilities.
It
felt
that
the
mineral
space
was
in
poorly
located
in
secondary
areas.
So
through
that
application
process,
we've
reduced
the
number
of
units
to
by
20
to
allow
for
the
larger
30s
program
square
meter
units
throughout
and
then
bring
in
the
communal
space
to
the
front
of
the
building
and
which
felt
you
know
for
probably
a
better
layers
and
better
quality
of
immunity.
B
For
for
residents,
just
moving
on
this,
this
to
shows
sort
of
a
section
of
the
units
and
Immunity
space
at
the
front
of
the
at
the
front
of
the
building.
This
is,
it
shows
the
communal
space,
where,
with
the
what
I
call
Winter
Terraces
and
that
the
private
units,
again
with
the
winter
Terraces,
it's
interesting
here
that
the
the
the
heavily
glaze
these
Terraces,
so
these
Terraces
can
be
shut
off
or
to
the
elements
are
open.
B
So
it's
a
flexible
in
inside
outside
space,
so
so
they
can
be,
can
be
additional
indoor
spaces
or
use
for
for
outdoor
terracing.
B
This
this
is
just
an
image
of
the
of
a
a
one
of
the
flats,
one
of
the
flights
to
the
fronts
so
to
just
show
what
and
the
private
units
are
for
the
the
access
access
there
and
entering
into
into
the
kitchenette
with
sitting
area,
with
a
bathroom
off
that
some
storage
space
and
then
a
larger
area
which
has
the
bed
and
this
the
sitting
space.
That,
and
this
shows
the
the
units
which
also
have
the
benefits
of
the
private.
B
Of
the
communal
space
that
this
this
shows,
you
can
see
the
share
kitchen
kitchen
and
eating
facilities
there,
which
provide
access
out
onto
our
Terrace
area.
The
first
and
second
floor
actually
have
a
double
height
space
which
links
to
the
two
spaces,
so
there's
a
communal,
Cinema
sitting
area
for
for
residents
on
this
floor
and
the
next
thing
it
shows
this
better.
B
You
can
see,
there's
there's
the
kitchen
and
sitting
areas
on
both
floors
and
then
then
a
sort
of
double
height
space,
which
is
a
nice
feature
and
also
a
sort
of
permeability
and
sort
of
that
interaction
of
a
residence
which
is
so
important
in
these
co-living
developments.
B
So
moving
on
to
just
to
the
work
opposed
to
the
for
the
library
building,
took
a
few
photographs
here,
we'll
just
show
and
show
the
internal
space
members
recall
from
going
inside.
It's
it's
it's
it.
It
sounds
good,
but
it's
gonna
retains
all
its
original
features
or
significant
amounts
of
its
original
features
so
out,
paneling
lanterns
throughout
sorry,
it's
sticking
a
bit.
B
Supposed
to
have
new
batteries
there,
so
yeah
I
mean
the
the
architraves,
and
so
so
it
is
a
it
is.
It
is
a
building
of
some
nodes,
it
says,
but
it's
great
too
listed
and
yeah,
so
the
architraves
there's
a
lot.
A
lot
of
parquet
floors,
tiling
throughout
The
Proposal,
is
for
a
light
touch
to
that
in
terms
of
what's
proposed.
So
it's
supposed
to
have
the
co-working
space
within
that
which
will
also
have
Public
Access.
B
So
all
all
the
the
features
you
see,
they're
going
to
be
retained
and
restored
the
panel
in
the
architrage
or
all
the
Oak
Park
parquet
floors.
It's
all
to
be
retained
for
Amazonian
units
going
into
to
what
one
side
of
it
and
then
so
critical
window
pods
throughout.
So
it
is
a
really
light
touch
to
to
the
building.
But
it's
sort
of
you
know
it's
a
use
which
seems
which
really
fits
well
with
previous
Library
use.
B
This
shows
the
overall
the
site,
as
I
said
earlier,
the
the
the
the
the
applicant
owns
in
his
control
of
all
the
abilities
within
the
site.
So,
what's
as
important
to
stress
that
the
building
the
the
proposal
works,
it
works
on
its
own
as
sufficient
facilities
to
provide
an
immunity
level
which
obviously
acceptable.
It
does
have
the
benefit.
And
again,
members
will
recall
from
when
we
went
on
the
site
visit
previously,
but
yeah.
B
The
occupant
occupants
will
have
access
to
some
of
the
facilities
that
the
adjacent,
classworks
and
gym
Cinema
reception
outdoor
area.
So
so
that's
an
additional
offering
which
yeah,
which
I
think
it
helps
it
improve
the
overall
offering
to
Future
residents
and
I
should
say
that
the
parking
on
the
site,
there's
24
parking
spaces
on
the
surface,
Park
in
the
18
underneath
and
that's
going
to
be
managed
across
the
site.
Currently
that
the
parking
is
under
subscribed
existing
parking
for
the
glass
work.
B
So
there
will
be
a
management
approached
to
that
across
the
site.
B
So
yeah,
that's
between
conclusions.
The
emerging
proposal
for
co-living
accommodation
is
a
New
Concept
for
housing
provision
within
Lee's
and
at
the
current
time,
is
not
subjects
of
any
specific
planning
policy.
Accordingly,
each
case
needs
to
be
considered
on
its
merits,
with
reference
to
existing
policy
and
emerging
guidance
in
weighing
up
the
planning
balance,
the
absence
of
a
specific
policy
within
the
development
plan
for
co-living
development
and
as
the
model
specifically
proposes
private
units
below
the
nationally
described
spacelanders.
B
This,
of
course
weighs
against
the
development
as
a
scheme
does
not
comply
with
H9
of
the
course
strategy.
However,
we're
in
favor
of
the
development
is
the
design
and
layout
of
this
scheme,
which
provides
comparably
large
private
units
for
code
living
development
with
Associated
communal
space,
which
is
well
designed
and
located
throughout
the
development
representing
a
good
balance
of
privacy
and
communal
spaces.
B
In
addition,
the
scheme
proposes
the
sensitive
restoration
and
reuse
of
the
grade
two
listed
daily
Library
you
returning
public
access
to
the
building,
the
design
of
the
six-story
bear
extension
is
considered
to
be
high
quality
and
sympathetic
to
its
setting,
creating
78
residential
units
on
a
sustainable
Brownfield
site
within
the
main
urban
area
and
providing
off-site
Green
Space
and
affordable
housing
contributions.
These
factors
weigh
significantly
in
favor
of
the
development.
B
So
in
summary,
whilst
it's
clear
that
there
was
no
policy
provision
either
within
the
Leeds
development
plan
or
the
national
planning
policy
framework
for
cable
living
development,
this
is
also
clear
that
this
is
an
emerging
emerging
model
for
Housing
Development
and
lease
and
or
the
Clusters.
In
assessing
the
case
on
its
own
merits
against
the
existing
planning
policy
and
guidance,
it
is
considered.
The
benefits
of
the
development
outweigh
any
conflict
with
planning
policy,
in
particular
policy
H9.
A
Thank
you
in
according
to
our
protocol
for
public
speaking,
we
would
normally
ask
speakers
to
speak
on
the
application.
However,
as
this
application
was
heard
before
a
previous
meeting,
there's
no
substantial
changes
has
been
made
to
the
application,
so
there
are
no
speaking
right
on
this
application.
Will
ask
members
now
to
ask
the
officers
if
you
have
any
questions
by
raising
your
hand,
counselor
Anderson.
J
The
development
plan
panel
meeting
on
the
4th
of
April
had
a
number
of
resolved
items.
I
personally,
as
a
member
of
the
development
plans
panel,
have
heard
nothing
since
so
why
are
we
God?
We
got
this
here
because
it
was
very
clear
what
was
resolved
at
that
meeting
and
some
of
you
wear
it.
They
say,
but
others
won't
and
I'm
not
a
clue.
What
I'm
talking
about
I
accept
that,
but
those
of
you
who
weren't
at
the
development
plans
panel,
so
why
are
we
here.
D
Thank
you,
Catherine
Holloway,
from
Simon
policies,
yeah.
We,
we
brought
a
draft
guidance.
Note
technical
guidance
note
on
co-living
to
development
plan
panel
back
in
April,
we're
still
looking
at
the
changes
due
to
sort
of
resourcing
we've
not
been
able
to
re-bring
that
through
it
was
draft,
it
is
draft
that
there
are
a
number
of
issues
that
were
raised
at
DPP.
D
Some
of
those
issues
need
to
be
looked
at
in
terms
of
the
longer
term
and
we'll
be
within
the
scope
of
the
local
Plan
update,
LLP
2040.
D
It
is
the
role
of
the
guidance
note
is
to
supplement
and
signpost
to
existing
and
current
policy,
and
that
is
how
this
scheme
has
been
assessed
against.
It's
been
assessed
against
those
current
policies.
The
guidance
known
as
a
technical
note
can't
introduce
anything
new
now.
Some
of
the
aspects
that
were
raised
at
DPP
were
raising
hypothetical
issues
around
sort
of
Maintenance
and
ownership
and
occupation,
and
these
cannot
be
addressed
at
this
stage.
We
can
only
point
and
signpost
to
existing
policy.
J
Accept
that
answer,
thank
you
for
that
answer,
but
my
query
is:
is
that
those
of
us
who
are
on
development
plans
panel
had
seen
something
you
can't
unknow
what
you've
read
right?
Rightly
or
wrongly,
you
can't
unknow
the
debate
that
took
place
at
the
time.
Others
have
not
had
the
same
benefit
from
it.
So
should
this
should
that
information
have
been
provided
to
plans
panel
members
so
that
everyone
had
equal
knowledge
and
equal
chance
to
interpret
whatever
was
there
before
them
I'm.
Just
asking
for
the
point
of
fairness.
J
L
Course,
thank
you,
Council
Anderson,
just
as
a
point
of
clarification.
Clearly,
development
plans
panel
have
select
members
on
there
in
relation
to
emerging
policy
or
policy
papers
and
implementation
notes
that
are
going
to
come
forward
for
executive
board
approval
or
to
go
and
get
go
through
the
statutory
process
for
local
plans
as
I
understand
it.
L
That
meeting
that
DPP
convened
was
to
consider
an
emerging
guidance
note
now
that
guidance
note
is
non-statory,
it's
not
binding
at
this
moment
in
time
it
was
a
discussion
point,
and
that
was
a
situation
where
my
members
had
lots
of
comments
and
officers
have
taken
those
comments
on
board
and
gone
away
with
them,
and
they
will
return
that
back
to
DPP
being
the
correct
Forum
at
a
later
stage.
However,
I
appreciate
that
that
was
done
in
a
completely
different
Forum.
L
We,
as
local
planning
Authority,
are
under
a
legal
duty
to
determine
applications
that
come
forward,
irrespective
of
whether
there
is
a
planning
position
on
it
or
not.
As
a
local
Authority
we're
not
unique
in
this
position.
There
are
many
local
authorities
across
the
country
who
are
obligated
to
determine
these
applications,
and
it's
slightly
unfortunate
that
we've
had
this
discussion
at
DPP
and
there's
been
no
conclusion.
J
I
I
just
want
to
make
sure
I'm
understanding
something
correctly.
It
says.
The
proposed
kitchenettes
are
fourth
line
down
the
proposed
kitchenettes
in
rooms
taken
to
look
at
everyone,
and
then
it
says
the
studio
kitchen
would
provide
a
and
then
a
list
of
bits
and
Bobs
is
that
the
kitchenette
inside
the
cell
search
Studio.
B
Yeah,
that's
that's
what
each
room
is
going
to
provide
in
terms
of
the
basically
yeah
a
kitchenette
sort
of
secondary
cooking
facilities.
You
know
in
support
of
the
main
communal.
I
So
so
I'm
writing,
saying
then
that
each
each
one
of
the
bed
sets
we'll
call
them
what
we're
going
to
call
them
as
the
is
self-contained
and
it
has
a
a
bedroom.
I
can
see
it
as
a
sitting
area.
It
has
a
fairly
decent
kitchenette
provision
and
an
ensuite
bathroom.
That's
right!
Isn't
it
perfect?
Thank
you.
A
We
had
a
question:
are
there
any
comments?
Counselor
emergency
raise
your
hand,
yes,
yeah.
It's
just
on
the
Civic
trust
when
they
ask
about
the
door.
I
I
can't
remember
reading
is
the
dog
gonna
be
removed
or
retained.
B
Yes
and
the
the
doors
are
to
be
are
to
be
retained
and
that
there
is
a
condition
there.
But
for
for
the
the
work
to
to
be
to
be
agreed
with
conservation
officer
so
that
that
that
information
will
be
submitted.
But
the
the
proposal
is
to
retain
all
the
existing
doors
and
I
say
the
the
power
work.
A
I
I,
come
in
that
that
thank
you,
chair,
so
I
have
a
real
concern
with
this
application
around
the
size
of
of
these
bed
sets
I
glanced
up
just
then
councilor
McKenna,
because
he
will
know
from
from
City
I
have
a
real
book
bear
about
us
ever
delivering
as
a
city,
substandard
living,
accommodation,
I,
don't
care
where
it
is
in
the
city,
I
believe
if
you're
living
in
Leeds,
you
are
entitled
to
live
in
a
decent
property
with
a
not
be
crammed
into
a
cupboard,
to
all
intents
and
purposes
and
I
understand
what
What
we're
being
told
about
this
new
approach
with
co-living
and
how
it
has
flexibility.
I
They
have
a
sitting
area,
a
bed
area,
a
kitchen
area
and
a
bathroom.
Now
there
may
well
be
other
space
that
people
can
use,
but
these
do
not
within
what
this
report
tells
us
really
fall
into
that
wider.
What
we
expect
co-living
to
be
so
when
we
think
for
me,
when
I
think
of
co-living
I
think
of
some
of
the
student
developments
where
there's
no
kitchen
facility
in
the
room,
it's
a
bedroom
and
there
might
be
a
little
bathroom,
but
anything
else
you
are.
I
You
know
you
want
to
cook
something
you
can't
do
it
within
your
bedsit
area.
You
want
to
sit
down
and
have
a
chat
with
it.
You
can't
do
that
within
your
bed,
set
area
I'm,
making
a
comment.
If
I
may,
these
properties,
these
bed
sets
are
significantly
under
the
minimum
space
standard
significantly
under
and
they
are
significantly
under
while
continuing
to
be
self-contained
units.
They
do
not
fit
within
the
description,
but
this
report
provides
as
what
we
expect
to
be
co-living
I'm,
going
to
struggle
to
support
it,
because
we
sat
for
me.
I
M
Sorry
there
was
just
one
comment
that
you
may
Council
going
that
either
I
got
confused
by
or
who
perhaps
needs
correcting.
There
are
cooking
facilities,
so
it
is
a
self-contained
unit
for
basic
cooking
facilities
provided
within
the
unit.
So
it's
not
quite,
as
was
described
by
yourself,
I,
don't
think.
I
Now
it's
exactly
as
I
described
it,
and
then
you
described
it
the
exact
same
way,
so
we're
on
one
page.
These
units
are
self-contained
units.
We
talked
in
paragraph
24,
where
it's
co-living,
that
we
have
communal,
Living,
Spaces
and
kitchens.
In
other
words,
we
don't
expect
people
to
use
their
little
cupboard
to
do
their
cooking.
We
expect
people
to
go
and,
and
in
that
situation,
I
absolutely
would
say
fine.
We
can.
I
We
can
take
a
hit
on
the
minimum
space
standards,
because
people
are
not
going
to
be
spending
the
vast
majority
of
their
time
in
their
little
cupboard
they're
going
to
when
they're
having
a
meal
when
having
breakfast
or
whatever
they're
going
to
be
outside,
and
then
you
can
start
to
logically
bring
that
space
into
your
minimum
space
standard.
But
we
have
a
very
comprehensive
living
area
with
a
well
well
provided
kitchenette,
which
is
why
I
checked
what
was
in
it
with
a
bathroom,
a
sitting
area
and
a
bed
area.
I
G
You
know
sorry
yeah
I'm,
referring
to
paragraph
105.
G
Really,
some
of
us
went
to
a
carbon
reduction
seminar
yesterday
for
members,
so
I
think
it
there's
an
intention
to
sort
of
look
at
sustainability
and
climate
change
in
in
this
document.
But
there's
there's
no
actual
explanation
as
to
what
actually
will
happen,
whether
it's
going
to
be
grand
Source,
Heating
and
there's
going
to
be
water
butts
how
to
cope
with
the
grade
two
listed
building
and
improving
insulation,
and
so
on.
So
I
just
wondered
if
we
could
ask
for
those
matters
to
be
looked
at
foreign.
B
All
those
measures
to
make
sure
that
the
meeting
the
relevant
EM1
policies
in
terms
of
its
climate,
the
carbon
reduction
and
and
the
the
the
applicants
have
agreed
agreed
to
that
so
I
think
you
know
a
condition
for
for
a
plan
for,
for
those,
the
construction
methods
to
ensure
it
meets
those
targets
would
be
would
be
sensible.
G
B
I
think
that'd
be
the
benefit
of
the
the
condition
we
can
have
that
we
can.
We
can
have
that
debate
and
when
it
pass
to
the
expert
so
that
you
know
advice
would
be
you
know
in
the
team
now
too
and
yeah,
we
can
agree
a
plan
for
the
building,
then,
as
past
the
conditions
of
the
of
any
permission.
Q
Yeah,
it's
it's
paragraph
35
and
36
on
affordable
housing,
I
mean
it
talks
in
there
about
commuting
a
lump
sum
and
I
think
people.
You
know
from
previous
meetings
know
my
views
on
that
I'm
not
happy
about
that.
I
prefer
the
affordable
you.
You
know
we're
supposed
to
be
a
side
society
that
all
live
together
and
we're
supposed
to
have.
Q
You
know
affordable
housing
alongside
others
Etc,
and
so
we
have
got
the
commuted
some
in
there
which
I'm
not
happy
about,
but
the
thing
is
when
it
talks
about
affordable
housing.
I
know
the
last
meeting
when
we
talked
about
this,
the
the
I
asked
about
the
rental
for
these
units
and
I'm
sure
it
was
something
like
250
pounds
a
week
or
something
it
was
an
exactly
cancel
the
coin.
Q
For
what
you've
just
said,
it's
an
extortionate
amount
of
money
and,
and-
and
it
says
here
there
is
no
D-
there
is
no.
There
is
no
evidence.
There
is
a
demand
for
affordable,
core
living
accommodation
in
the
city.
Now,
if
the
prices
of
rent
for
these
units
are
still
the
same,
then
that's
pricing.
A
lot
of
people
out
of
renting
one
of
the
the
exact
people
it's
aimed
at
Young
professionals,
20s
and
30s.
That
price
is
pricing.
Q
People,
that's
a
thousand
pounds
a
month
for
as
councilor
Cohen
describes
a
cupboard,
so
I
I
do
have
my
reservations
at
the
amount
of
money,
if
that's
still
being
charged
for
a
very
small
unit.
Q
Aside
of
the
commuted
lump
sum
which
I'm
not
happy
with
and
I
just
have
an
issue
with,
if
that's
still
the
amount,
then
nothing
is
Affordable
about
this
development
and
I
have
concerns
about
that.
Okay,.
A
L
Has
the
word
the
cost
of
living
and
the
cost
of
the
units
is,
is
a
problem.
It's
not
a
material
planning
consideration
for
you
to
bring
into
considering
whether
this
meets
the
legal
test
of
sustainable
development.
Q
B
Well,
sorry,
but
in
terms
of
sorry,
in
terms
of
the
accommodation,
each
unit
is
30,
30
square
meter
square
meters,
which
is
obviously
the
the
minimum
standards
is
37.
So
we
are
short
of
that.
There's
the
communal
spaces
throughout
the
building
and
all
the
shared
spaces,
which
adds
up
if
you
aggregate
it
across
Society,
it's
38,
approximately
38
square
meters,
so
with
officers.
Think
that's,
that's!
That's
that's
a
good
offer
offering
and
the
models
how
Coleman
is
developed
is.
B
Is
there
is
that
balance
between
private
and
communal
space,
so
the
facilities
in
the
room
were
already
a
central
part
of
that?
How
that
how
that's
been
developed
so
so,
for
example,
a
policy
elsewhere?
This
is
it
like
I,
say
it's
a
central
requirement.
There
is
that
sort
of
balance
between
ability
to
live
privately
but
also
live
communally.
So
that's
why
there's
those
facilities
within
the
rooms
in
terms
of
the
communities?
So
we've
discussed
this
that
previously
when
it
came
into
position
name,
but
we've
filled
in
this
case
the
off-site.
B
Some
is
the
best
way
to
to
provide
it
in
this
case
as
a
bill
to
rent
scheme
yeah
funding
for
for
built
around
and
see
this.
This
is
this
is
approach
that
they've
taken
elsewhere,
where,
where
where
the
camera
is
slightly
more
develops,
we
just
felt
that
that
was.
That
was
a
a
good
balance
between
the
two
but
I
do
take
the
point
that
there's
providing
off
offsite
is
not
is
is
not
as
good
as
provide
on
site.
B
You
know,
there's
not
the
guarantee
it's
going
to
be
provided
immediately,
but
we
just
felt
in
this
case.
Given
this
new
new
approach,
a
new
tenure,
we
felt
that
that
was
on
balance.
That
was
the
approach
to
be
taken
in
this
case,
so
so
the
six
units
which
we
you
know
require
on
site.
We
would
have
a
mechanism
within
the
section
106
to
provide
funding
for
that
off
site.
Okay,.
A
Ask
for
comment
but
thinks
about
this
question
should
go
into
question.
What
just
mentioned
should
go
into
question,
but
as
Nick
is
saying
we're
not
debating
price
in
this
and
you
know,
I
know
it
doesn't
suit.
Everyone
with
custom
live
call
living,
but
it
is
a
benefit
to
most
people.
When
you
take
someone
just
graduate
just
can't
buy
a
house
can
rent
a
house.
You
know
these
things
do
take
into
consideration
until
the
individual
can
find
the
fit
to
go
forward.
So
sometimes
we
are
speaking
not
for
the
people.
A
H
All
right,
I'd,
just
like
to
say
I,
I,
appreciate
councilor,
hustle
hessels
was
comment
in
question,
and
then
this
this
has
happened
quite
a
few
times
on
plans.
Panel
I
know.
Even
sometimes
we
can
ask
questions
of
developers
that
that
their
answer
simply
might
be.
You
know
we
meet
the
requirements.
H
I
still
think
it's
our
duty
as
members
to
ask
relevant
questions
and
I
think
because
it's
built
to
rent
asking
questions
on
on
their
actual
rent
is
very
relevant
to
it
and
I
think
we
should
be
able
to
ask
questions
regardless
of
you
know.
We
might
legally
not
be
able
to
vote
on
that
issue,
but
I
think
it's
really
important
that
we
do
bring
up
those
issues.
Thank
you
very
much.
A
A
I'm,
making
a
comment
I
believe
that
the
last
time
we
said
that
it
was
looking
a
bit
dominant
and
it's
been
taken
back.
So
it
looks
a
lot
better
at
this
moment
in
time,
and
yes,
I
I,
agree
that
the
space
is
is
not
not
very
big
if
I
can
put
it
that
way.
You
know
if
they're
done
less
unit
they'd
be
more
more
space,
obviously
we're
here
and
it's
come
that
it's
this.
A
It's
only
30
meters
which
doesn't
meet
our
requirement,
but
maybe
we
should
have
asked
for
the
units
to
be
reduced
and
when
it
came
the
first
time
so
in
order
for
them
to
make
the
units
big
bigger.
A
We've
done
that
prior
in
the
past,
when
we
we're
not
being
happy,
but
obviously
we
didn't
stress
on
that
the
last
time
so
we're
here,
we've
got
30
meters,
like
you
say
it's
small
yeah
there'll
be
I'll,
tell
you
what
will
be
in
there
there'll
be
a
a
little
two
burner
for
you
to
make
something
a
bit
of
toast
fry
egg.
A
You
know,
and
then,
if
they
want
to
cook
a
meal,
they'll
have
to
go
out
in
the
in
the
in
the
communal
space.
So
yeah
it
should
have
been
a
bit
bigger,
but
we
didn't
pick
up
on
that
last
time,
so
we
are
where
we
are
and
I
do
like
the
stepping
back.
It's
not
so
much
over
the
library
making
it
dominant,
but
I
did
say
before
that.
Having
those
duplex
spaces
is
so
small
to
me
still,
but
we
are
where
we
are.
A
It's
I
like
it
like
the
the
building,
the
stepping
back
make.
It
looks
a
lot
better
counselor
coming.
I
Thank
you
Chad,
just
just
to
pick
up
on
Council
Hamilton's
book,
because
we
are
where
we
are,
but
we
haven't
agreed
on
the
size
of
units
that
that's
not
something
that's
been
reserved
so
well.
It
might
be
before
us,
but
our
job
respectfully
now
is
to
decide
whether
we're
prepared
to
accept
something
20
or
19
to
be
accurate,
but
we're
politicians.
We
round
things
up
a
bit
at
19
below
the
policy
that
this
Council
has
Set
and
I'll.
I
M
M
We
need
to
be
clear
on
what
basis
what
what
what
just
troubles
me
about
this
is.
This
is
a
new
form
of
living
that
when
it
came
forward,
it
wasn't
a
motion
for
refuse,
or
we
were
tasked
to
take
it
away,
to
look
at
further
information
on
the
design
and
various
other
bits
and
pieces,
which
is
what
we've
done.
It's
quite
clear
that
there
is
actually
demand
for
this
can
I
finish.
Please
sorry,
and
then
we
can
come
back.
I
M
Is
there
is
a
demand
for
this?
The
communal
space,
because
there
are
some
misunderstandings
here-
the
communal
space
does
actually
make
up
for
the
deficit
that
was
being
talked
about,
20
that
was
referred
to
in
that
that
provides
38,
although
it's
a
different
form
of
accommodation
which
I
think
we're
having
some
difficulty
with
and
also
it
provides
other
opportunities.
This
type
of
developments
in
in
terms
of
the
interactions
or
the
opportunities
for
interaction,
Steve.
L
I'm
really
sorry
I'm
going
to
have
to
intervene
here.
A
vote
has
been
taken,
there's
been
legally
constituted
and
that
was
moved
and
seconded
for
a
refusal
under
the
council's
Constitution.
It's
the
majority
of
votes
that
are
taken,
and
there
were
three
for
refusal.
There
were
five
abstaining
from
voting
and
therefore
the
refusal
has
been
voted
on.
L
The
comments
that
counts
that
Cohen
had
made
was
in
squarely
in
relation
to
space
standards,
which
was
seconded
by
councilor
Anderson,
that's
a
basis
on
which
the
refusal
would
go
forward
now
this
in
under
our
council's
constitution,
where
this
goes
against
the
officer
recommendation,
it
is
a
matter
for
officers
to
defer
the
matter
and
return
with
refusal,
reasons
to
be
presented
to
members
based
on
the
vote.
That's
just
been
taken.
N
P
You
chair
this
presentation
follows
a
member
site
visit
this
morning
and
relates
to
a
full
application
for
600
Place
sixth
form
College
on
land
west
of
Kent
Road
Pudsey.
Just
in
terms
of
of
updates.
Further
information
has
been
received
from
the
applicant
setting
out
a
detailed
needs
case
for
the
proposed
development.
P
The
applicant
illuminate
education
group
has
reviewed
the
sustainable
travel
measures
as
part
of
The
Proposal.
As
previously
stated,
there
is
significant
capacity
with
existing
bus
services
within
the
area,
and
that
would
serve
the
proposed
college
at
Kent
Road.
Now
it's
done
in
this
clear
evidence
of
existing
bus
capacity
illuminate
proposes
a
financial
contribution
which
can
be
used
if
the
service
is
affected
by
A
reduced
timetable
at
peak
times
for
students
or
removal
of
the
service
altogether.
P
This
support
this
would
support
the
condition
set
out
within
the
travel
plan
to
review
available
Services
six
months
before
the
college
opens
a
contribution
of
25
000.
Pounds
is
therefore
proposed
as
a
financial
commitment
per
annum
subject
to
a
change
in
the
bus
provision
as
previously
set
out.
This
can
be
reviewed
after
five
years
to
establish
available
provision
at
that
time.
P
In
addition
to
that,
local
plants,
colleagues
have
also
provided
comments
in
respect
of
the
site's
land
use.
Designation
members
will
be
aware
the
site
is
allocated
as
green
space
and
the
cost
strategy
with
a
green
space
typology
of
outdoor
sport.
This
is
consistent
with
the
site's
UDP
allocation,
which
is
also
applicable
and
designated
as
protected
plane.
Pictures
n6,
autographs,
821
and
177
of
the
panel
reports
refer
to
planning
policy
G6
suffix
one.
This
is
incorrect.
P
P
The
supporting
planning
report
also
sets
out
National
planning
guidance
contained
in
the
mppf
local
planning
policies
and
officers.
Assessment
of
such
with
regards
to
the
loss
of
this
protected
plane
pitch
and
the
offer
of
mitigation
provided
by
the
applicant
to
carry
out
pitch
improvements
on
nearby
playing
fields
to
facilitate
additional
play.
P
Should
members
be
minded
to
approve
the
application.
However,
given
the
statutory
objection
from
spart
England,
the
application
will
need
to
be
referred
to
the
Secretary
of
State
under
related
departure
procedures.
P
So
that's
the
kind
of
background
and
update
in
relation
to
those
matters
just
turn
into
the
slides,
so
the
application
site
sits
within
the
urban
area
of
Pudsey
within
the
operational
boundary
of
crossyard
Academy
I'll
just
turn
to
the
aerial
image
slightly
distorted.
So
I
apologize
for
that.
But
as
I
say,
the
application
site
is
within
the
urban
area
of
puts
it.
P
Within
the
operational
boundary
of
crossyard
Academy
to
the
west
of
the
site
is
the
existing
access,
which
serves
the
Crosshair
Academy.
That
is
to
be
used
by
prospective
members
of
Staff
who
drive
a
car
to
enable
them
to
park
within
what
would
be
the
cartilage
of
cross
Shore
Academy.
The
main
access
to
the
site
is
on
the
Eastern
side
on
Kent
Road,
which
would
provide
the
vehicle
access
and
pedestrian
access
for
the
pupils
who
would
use
this
facility.
N
N
P
I
will
yeah.
There
are
two
access
points
for
staff.
They
would
use
the
existing
access
of
rubbing
Lane
to
the
West
and
for
the
public
for
the
students
and
visitors.
P
There
are
some
commercial
units
in
this
location.
Just
here
to
the
south
of
the
site,
is
Chaucer
Avenue,
which
is
at
a
lower
level
than
the
application
site,
and
you
will
see
that
from
some
of
the
photographs,
I
hope
which
help
articulate
that.
P
So
this
is
the
the
main
entrance
off
Robin
Lane
as
I
say
that
will
be
used
solely
by
members
of
staff
and
and
not
by
students
or
visitors.
P
This
is
a
view
of
Kent
Road
from
the
south
facing
basic
facing
north.
P
And
the
existing
pedestrian
access
point,
which
is
off
Kent
Road,
where
we
met
actually
on
site
this
morning,
adjacent
to
the
our
weather
pitch.
P
This
is
a
view
facing
west
across
the
site
and,
in
the
background,
are
the
the
buildings
of
of
cross
Shore
Academy,
and
you
can
see
I
think
from
that.
The
changes
in
levels
and
the
existing
condition
of
of
the
of
the
pitch,
which
is
clearly
not
used
at
the
moment-
and
this
is
a
view
from
the
south
of
the
site
facing
north
again.
It
helps
demonstrate
the
the
quality
of
the
of
the
of
the
pitch
or
the
allocated
pitch
and
the
changes
in
levels
associated
with
it.
P
P
Again
of
you
facing
south
and
I
think
from
this,
what
we
can
see
the
properties
on
Chaucer
Avenue
just
here,
and
the
changes
in
levels
which
are
almost
at
first
floor
level
when
you,
when
you
look
at
that
aspect,
so
the
site
is
quite
elevated
in
relation
to
those
properties.
P
And
a
close-up
of
the
of
the
pitch
itself,
this
time
facing
north,
which
is
of
a
poor
quality
unusable
and
it
does
suffer
with
significant
drainage
issues.
The
foreign
so
just
in
terms
of
the
of
the
layout.
P
P
The
building
itself
is
approximately
92
meters
in
length,
its
orientation
is
east
to
west,
and
the
width
of
the
the
building
is
around
20
meters
and
to
the
front
of
that
building
is
proposed
car
parking
in
this
area.
Here
that
would
be
for
students
and
there's
20
days
allocated
for
students
and
visitors
in
this
location.
There
is
a
central
turning
area
to
allow
vehicles
to
enter
the
site
and
to
egress
as
well.
P
Sorry
in
front
of
the
college
to
the
to
the
west
of
the
site,
25
car
parking
spaces,
which
I
alluded
to
earlier,
which
would
be
dedicated
to
members
of
staff
to
connect
the
staff
to
the
to
the
building,
because
it
would
be
a
separate
entity.
P
There
is
a
dedicated
footpath
link,
which
would
be
a
fobbed
access
to
prevent
pupils
from
the
college
entering
the
car
show
site
and
similarly,
from
crochet
Academy
entering
the
college
complex
to
the
south
of
the
site
is
a
proposal
for
a
mature
Bond,
which
would
be
quite
a
significant
Bond
of
of
a
variety
of
of
native
trees
and
shrubs.
P
The
purpose
of
that
is
to
provide
a
screen
to
the
properties
to
the
south
on
Chaucer
on
Chaucer
Avenue,
and
it's
considered
that,
although
from
the
outset,
there
would
be
a
need
for
a
close
bar
defense
along
this
boundary
here
approximately
in
this
location
in
the
long
term,
that
would
provide
an
effective
screen
both
visually
and
it
would
also
reduce
noise
levels
as
well.
P
P
So,
in
terms
of
the
changes
in
levels,
I
did
indicate
that
there
is
quite
a
significant
differencing
levels
across
the
site
and
this
elevation
is
a
north-south
section
which
details
that
in
some
in
some
detail.
So
this
is
the
proposed
College
building
and
that
drops
down.
That's
finished.
Flower
level
is
122.
P
Meters
and
it
drops
down
to
118
at
that
point
there
so
at
the
Gardens
at
Chaucer,
Avenue,
there's
a
variation
of
approximately
four
meters
across
that
section.
So
that's
quite
that's
quite
significant
and
hence
the
need
for
a
a
landscape
Bund
in
this
area.
Here.
P
So
in
elevational
form
the
building
is
quite
it's
quite
simple.
It's
considered
to
be
quite
calm
and
settled
with
regular
penetration
and
detailing
and
space
divide
ratios
in
terms
of
key
features.
P
Okay,
so
in
terms
of
elevational
treatment,
this
is
actually
a
central
base
section.
This
is
the
northern
elevation,
so
this
is
the
elevation
which
would
face
the
existing
our
weather
pitch.
P
P
P
Other
striking
features
include
these
Corner
elements
which
are
anodized
metal
plating.
It's
a
metal
cladding
system
with
the
let's
see,
sixth
form
college
logo
on
the
corner
there.
Overall,
it's
considered
that
you
know
that
the
architectural
quality,
although
it
it's
simple
and
calm-
does
have
some
some
Merit.
It
is
offer
some
gravitas.
P
It's
responsive
to
the
local
context
in
terms
of
the
materials
and
the
quality
of
those
materials
and
as
I
say
it,
it
does
respond
positively
to
to
to
the
architectural
requirements
which
were
discussed
at
the
pre-application
stage
and
a
close-up
of
the
central
canopy
showing
the
the
kind
of
the
the
projection
there
and
the
shadow
lines
which
that
would
create
particularly
on
this
elevation.
P
P
The
other
aspect
to
it
is
that
the
the
windows
themselves,
whilst
regular
and
of
horizontal
emphasis,
are
set
back
within
within
the
facade
to
create
interesting
reveals
which
again
help
break
down
the
scale
and
massing
of
the
building
and
some
close-up
images
of
the
of
those
aspects
which
show
the
briefly
the
shadow
lines
which
I've
explained
the
recessed
windows
with
the
reveals.
P
P
Details
there
of
the
of
the
fenestration
and
as
I
say,
the
horizontal
emphasis
with
the
reveals
shown
there
in
a
bit
more
detail.
P
And
again,
another
section
of
the
window
this
time
showing
the
the
recess
in
the
in
the
cladding
element
in
the
anodized
metal
cladine
element
there
just
on
the
corners
of
the
building,
all
recessed,
creating
these
reveals
and
then
just
a
section
of
those
particular
reveals.
This
is
the
the
external
facade.
So
that's
the
brick
work
with
the
window
in
that
position,
just
there
creating
what
is
quite
a
considerable
depth
and
and
obviously
adds
to
the
interest
of
of
the
building
and
then
just
in
terms
of
materials.
P
A
bit
a
buff
colored
brick
is
proposed
to
to
respond
to
the
predominant
context,
an
example
of
the
anodized
kind
of
Clarion
system
and
then
details
of
the
of
the
briefly
in
this
latinum
corner.
Just
here.
P
So,
in
terms
of
the
of
floor
plans
themselves,
the
bottom
section
is
a
continuation
of
the
top
section
and
would
run
from
this
point
here,
pretty
straightforward,
really
in
terms
of
the
internal
layout
with
a
central
corridor
with
with,
in
this
instance,
I
think
this
is
actually
on
the
first
floor.
So
this
is
avoid
over
the
dining
room
area.
This
is
a
reception
and
then
a
main
hall
in
this
position
here
and
then
classrooms
running
off
that
Central
corridor.
P
And
they
repeat
at
ground
floor
level,
this
time
with
no
void.
So
this
is
the
main
dining
hall,
the
Sports
Hall
as
I
say
the
the
entrance
Lobby
or
left
in
this
location
here,
Central
Corridor,
with
classrooms,
running
off
that
corridor
link
and
then
in
terms
of
the
roof
plan.
P
It's
a
flat
roof
solution
and
this
would
be
the
projecting
canopy
to
the
front.
So
this
would
be
the
southern
elevation
of
the
building.
The
plant
itself
is
set
back
on
the
roof
line
with
a
louvered
screen
around
it
at
this
point
here-
and
here
is
the
position
of
the
array
of
solar
panels
which
would
be
introduced
as
part
of
the
energy
and
sustainability
as
part
of
the
credentials
for
that.
P
So,
whilst
it's
recognized
that
the
site
does
not
meet
the
car
strategy,
sustainability
credentials
in
relation
to
public
transport
hubs
and
connections,
I
think
it's
worth
noting.
Where
bus
stops
are
in
the
vicinity
of
the
site.
The
I
know
it's
probably
not
the
easiest
thing
to
read,
but
the
the
yellow
box,
with
the
the
black
frame,
denounce
the
surrounding
bus
stops
in
the
area
adjacent
to
the
site.
There
are
two
bus
stops
serving
or
providing
services
for
the
the
14
and
81
bus
service
to
the
south
of
the
site.
P
There
is
low
town
with
with
bus
with
bus
stops
along
that
section
of
the
road
to
the
north
west
of
the
site
and
again
just
off
plan,
but
one
kilometer
away
from
the
college
house
College
site
there
is
putsy
bus
stop
bus
station,
so
it's
about
probably
a
seven
to
ten
minute,
walk
away
from
the
site
to
the
Northeast
and
again
after
the
plan
is
Bramley
train
station
and
that's
approximately
2.2
kilometers
away
from
the
site
so
again
within
what
you
would
expect
to
be
a
reasonable
walking
distance
foreign
I
think
also
in
terms
of
assessing
the
site's
transport
sustainability
credentials.
P
Who
would
otherwise
need
to
be
taught
elsewhere?
We'd
have
to
travel,
presumably
to
Leeds,
and
there
are
obviously
sustainability
implications
of
that
as
well,
so
having
a
local
provision
is
obviously
a
benefit
and
a
benefit
to
that
particular
area,
and
it's
noted
from
the
submitted
travel
plan
that
the
Pudsey
sixth
Farm
College
will
encourage
the
use
of
sustainable
travel,
including
cycling
and
public
transport,
and
the
applicant
has
also
stated
it
will
encourage
the
use
of
bus
travel.
P
It
is
also
noted
that
the
college
will
support
students
in
obtaining
subsidized
or,
where
possible,
free
bus
passes
through
available
funding
streams,
as
mentioned
in
introduction.
It's
also
understood.
There
is
significant
capacity
within
the
existing
bus
service
provision
that
would
serve
the
proposed
development,
and
the
applicant
has
also
now
proposed
a
financial
contribution
which
can
be
used
if
these
services
are
affected
by
A
reduced
timetable
at
peak
times
for
students
or
removal
of
a
service
altogether.
P
I
was
I
was
hoping
to
show
you
the
the
extent
of
the
external
off-site
Highway
works.
That's
that's
completely
illegible
and
I'm
struggling
to
to
read
that
I
must
say
to
to
to
summarize
this
is
this:
is
the
section
of
Kent
Road,
so
this
is
to
the
east
of
the
site.
P
At
this
point,
a
race
table
a
speed
table
would
be
introduced
and,
along
at
various
points
along
Kent
Road,
five
Road
humps
will
also
be
introduced
as
traffic
calming
measures,
so
a
variety
of
measures
taking
place
off-site
in
addition
to
that
across
the
site.
Frontage,
the
thought
path
would
be
widened
to
three
meters,
to
accommodate
students
peak
times,
to
enable
them
to
be
able
to
walk
safely
and
and
leave
safely,
as
as
obviously
part
of
the
overall
Highway
works.
So
those
are
the
measures
which
are
proposed.
P
P
So,
on
that
basis,
the
application
is,
is
recommended
for
approval,
subject
to
referral
to
the
Secretary
of
State
and
conditions
set
out
in
the
report,
as
well
as
the
related
section
106
obligations
as
detailed
in
the
report,
and
also
the
additional
measure
which
I
mentioned
in
the
introduction
for
the
provision
of
financial
contribution
by
the
applicant
of
twenty
five
thousand
pounds
per
annum.
As
detailed
in
in
my
in
my
introduction,
and
that
concludes
my
presentation.
Chair.
A
Thank
you.
In
accordance
with
our
protocol
for
public
speaking
at
plants
panel,
member
of
the
public
are
in
attendance
to
speak
to
the
panel
after
they
have
spoken.
I
will
invite
members
of
the
panel
to
ask
questions
of
the
speakers
to
clarify
matters
of
facts,
and
those
questions
should
be
limited
to
revelent
planning
issues.
I
will
then
invite
officers
to
clarify
any
matters
raised
to
point
out
any
consideration
raised
in
the
discussion,
but
which
are
not
material
to
determine
the
application.
A
R
Thank
you
chair,
while
I'm
generally
supportive
of
this
application,
I
have
a
number
of
concerns
which
I'm
grateful
to
be
given
the
opportunity
to
raise
here.
R
I
feel
the
site
is
wholly
unsuitable
for
the
proposals
and,
while
I
appreciate
the
opportunities
and
investment
for
Pudsey,
the
site
appears
to
me
to
be
made
to
fit
rather
than
bespoke.
Here's
where
it
is,
though
I'm
conscious
of
time
and
I've
been
a
lot
I've
been
allotted
and
also
I
will
raise
my
main
concern
regarding
these
plans.
R
R
We've
recently
seen
two
bus
routes
canceled
by
first
bus,
the
number
nine
and
the
508.
The
nine
has
thankfully
been
picked
up
by
Yorkshire
buses,
but
its
future
is
still
not
secure.
The
number
14
and
81
are
the
only
direct
route
to
Kent
Road,
which
is
the
main
entrance.
R
Therefore,
the
only
option
for
traveling
to
Pudsey
is
via
Pudsey
Bus
Station
by
bus,
where
the
pupils
will
be
expected
to
walk
from
the
bus
station
to
Kent
Road.
It's
not
a
10
minute
walk
it's
at
least
a
15
minute,
walk
inputs
say
our
main
anti-social
Behavior
issue
is
centered
around
the
bus
station
and
we
have
a
number
of
issues
with
children
coming
to
Pudsey
from
surrounding
areas
into
the
town
and
causing
trouble.
R
I
am
currently
dealing
with
a
number
of
residents,
complaints
regarding
the
top
entrance
to
Christchurch
school
at
Ravens
Mount,
which
is
why
it
is
important
that
the
entrance
should
remain
via
Kent
Road.
However,
I
know
that
the
pupils
are
regularly
dropped
off
by
parents
and
in
the
case
of
six
Farm
pupils,
some
do
drive
to
school
and
own.
A
car
parking
facility
is
provided
for
pupils
are
again
not
adequate
at
this
site.
R
Further
routes
to
the
sixth
Farm
are
Viola
town
and
footpaths
along
this
route
are
again
unsuitable,
either
through
sheltered
housing
complexes
or
through
small
kennels.
All
routes
are
via
quiet,
small
Estates.
The
maps
that
you
saw
didn't
show
the
full
picture
of
the
routes
that
these
children
are
going
to
take
to
this
school.
R
While
I
appreciate
the
25
000
pounds,
that's
been
allocated
for
the
loss
of
a
sports
field
to
mitigate
Spa
England
I
do
not
feel
this
is
an
adequate
amount.
Queen's
Park
has
recently
undergone
significant
investment
in
its
grass
farts
beaches
at
a
cost
of
192
000,
and
that's
just
for
football
pitches.
That's
not
other
facilities.
25
pounds
seems
quite
a
small
amount
to
me.
The
25
000
pounds
offered
to
me
to
get
the
bus
would
not
even
cover
a
bus,
salary,
a
bus
driver's
salary
for
a
year
and
I
just
wanted
to
add
another
Point.
R
It
was
said
that
this
would
help
putsy
pupils
with
six
Farm
allocations.
All
three
schools
high
schools
in
Pudsey,
currently
have
a
six
Farm
facility.
This
would
only
assist
pupils
from
out
of
the
Pudsey
area.
It
wouldn't
help
our
children
in
pods.
They've
already
got
six
Farm
accommodation,
it
would
increase
their
options,
but
it
wouldn't
assist
our
children.
R
Work
needs
to
be
done
to
address
the
transport
and
travel
issues
for
pupils
current
pupils,
as
well
as
the
potential
pupils
and
consider
the
impact
on
local
residents
before
the
building
is
opened.
We
need
to
future-proof
plans
and
we
need
to
do
it
now,
rather
than
when
I'm
getting
phone
calls
from
residents
complaining
about
Vehicles,
antisocial,
behavior
and
disruption
to
local
residents.
Thank
you,
chair.
A
Thank
you.
Are
there
any
questions
to
cancel
Siri.
E
Hi
councilor,
we
are
talking
about
16
to
18
year
old,
and
you
mentioned
a
15-minute
walk.
E
It
seems
to
me
that
the
schools
I
know
about
and
they're,
not
sixth
form,
the
high
schools
they'll
enjoy
the
walk
with
their
mates
after
school
as
part
of
the
cultural
end
to
an
educational
day,
I,
don't
think
they
really
need
to
be
taken
by
the
hand
and
if,
if
you
say
it's
coming
from
outside
the
area,
that's
good
because
I'm
sure
my
grandson
will
end
up
here
to
be
quite
honest
and
he
certainly
will
end
up
in
high
school
in
potency
and
he's
certainly
outside
the
area
and
I.
E
R
What
from
Buddy
Center
to
be
fair,
I,
don't
know
if
you
saw
Valley,
Road
and
Kent
Road
is
a
very
long
road.
In
my
experience,
I've
just
got
a
child,
that's
left
actually
grangefield
sex
farm
and
all
of
his
friends
as
soon
as
they
could
drive
wanted
to
drive
the
issues
at
the
top
of
the
drive
at
Raven's.
Mount
are
again
because
parents
dropping
kids
off,
and
my
experience
with
this
school
is
that
the
pupils
don't
walk
there.
A
I'm
quite
agreeing
with
councilor
McKenna
Public
Health.
We
are
encouraging
everyone
to
do
public
activities
and
this
man,
I,
went
and
the
site
visit
and
from
what
I
can
see.
Afterward
I
don't
know
the
rules
how
far
it
is.
What
is
a
comfortable
work
where
I
think
young
people
would
really
enjoy?
As
you
know,
what
young
people
do
when
they're
together
nothing
winter?
Yes,
but
summer,
I
do
know,
young
people
would
enjoy
that
work,
and
it's
very
good
for
their
health
and
it's
encouragement.
So
personally,
I
encourage
that
bit.
I
Yeah
I've
lost
my
voice,
then,
for
a
minute,
I
want
to
be
good
for
anybody.
You
look
devastated
guys
it's
here.
It's
fine
yeah
just
speak
to
me.
It
could
just
explain.
I
What's
what's
your
view
in
terms
of
the
the
the
sports
pitch
I
know,
Sports
England
are
unequivocal
in
their
objection,
but
I'd
be
interested
to
know
what
what
the
view
of
Ward
members
is
in
in
respect
to
the
sports
pictures
and
lots
of
the
green
space
and
the
loss
of
sports
pitches.
Of
course,
once
they're
gone,
they're
gone.
R
I,
don't
want
to
take
anything
away
from
Sports
England,
but
the
pitch
isn't
used
at
the
moment.
As
long
as
I
can
remember
and
I
actually
went
to
that
school,
it
wasn't
used
as
a
sports
pitch
at
to
quote
one
of
our
outgoing
councilors.
Some
Greenbelt
isn't
worth
saving
in
their
opinion.
R
Q
Yeah
it
might,
it
might
be
a
comment,
a
question
and
I'm
just
concerned
I
mean
I,
have
a
son
who's
in
year,
12
he's
at
Leeds
College
of
Art
over
there
and
and
manages
to
get
himself
on
the
bus
and
around
and
walks
everywhere,
not
the
University
of
the
college,
the
old
yeah
there
there
yeah
or
manages
to
get
himself
around
on
the
bus.
He
knows
the
bus
timetable
is
better
than
even
my
mother.
Q
Who's
got
a
bus,
passing
runs
everywhere
as
well
exactly
so
it
and
and
was
his
around
the
city
on
the
bus
everywhere,
not
in
a
car.
Q
But
one
thing
I
am
concerned
about
your
comment
is
that
you
said
it
won't
benefit
our
children,
but
as
counselors
we
have
a
responsibility
to
the
children
across
the
city
and
in
Bromley
the
the
Leeds
West
Clause,
their
their
sixth
formers
councilor
McKenna
has
alluded
to
and
all
the
schools
have
closed
theirs
as
well,
and
there
was
proposals
I
used
to
teach
at
the
horse
for
site
of
lead,
City
College
and
they
closed
it
down
and
moved
us
out
since
the
center,
and
there
was
proposals
set
up
a
sixth
form
College
there,
because
we
knew
that
there
was
a
lack
of
provision
in
that
side
of
the
city.
Q
Unfortunately,
that
fell
through.
So
we
know
that
we
need
a
sixth
form
College
in
that
side
of
the
city,
to
widen
the
provision.
That's
offered
to
that
to
our
children,
to
to
widen
that
that
that
educational
offer
so
they've
got
more
choice
of
the
subjects
they're
taking
so
I'm,
just
a
bit
concerned
that
you
say
it
won't
benefit
our
children.
When
we
have
a
responsibility
to
the
children,
you
know
all
children
across
the
city,
our
city,
councilors.
R
Yeah
that
comment
wasn't
about
a
liminal
situation
and
I
agree.
All
all
children
are
our
responsibility
and
my
comment
was
Pudsey.
Children
already
have
a
sixth
form
and
they
have
options
within
that
sixth
form.
The
com.
The
previous
comments
before
I
made
my
comments
were
that
there's
no,
it
was
alluded
that
there
was
no
sixth
form
and
what
we,
what
the
provision
would
be
doing,
would
be
bringing
other
children
into
our
area,
which
is
good
and
it
like
you
said
it
widens
the
provision,
but,
on
the
other
hand,
the
bus
service.
R
H
I
I
just
wondered
if
we
could
get
a
response
in
regards
to
in
the
papers.
It
actually
mentioned
that
by
building
this
designated
sixth
form
it
sort
of
allows
the
expansion
that
is
going
to
happen,
probably
for
a
lot
of.
Perhaps
schools
in
your
ward
and
I
think
the
other
two
academies
that
it's
saying
it's
going
to
take
from
is
actually
your
colleague's
ward,
which
is
in
farsley
and
I.
H
Guess
the
the
I
I
guess
it's
mitigating
the
fact
that
a
lot
of
schools
are
going
to
have
to
develop
to
take
in
more
children
and
so
by
removing
the
sixth
form
element
that
they've
currently
got
and
having
a
designated
six
form.
It
allows
our
schools
to
expand
without
probably
getting
rid
of
their
football
pitches.
I
just
wondered
what
you
thought
about
that
comments,
specifically
by
having
a
designated
six
form
on
a
pitch
that
isn't
currently
used.
H
It
then
means
that
you
current
secondary
schools,
don't
have
to
then
develop
more
because
they'll
then
be
able
to
gain
that
space
back.
R
I
can't
speak
about
pre-stop
I.
Think
that's
what
you
were
talking
about
with
my
colleagues
so
yeah,
but
with
regard
to
grangefield
I,
know,
they've
got
plans
to
expand
on
it
and
it
won't
be
onto
green
spaces.
I'm
not
objecting
to
the
sixth
farm
at
all.
I
would
really
welcome
a
a
facility
like
this
for
the
children
in
Pudsey
and
in
surrounding
areas.
The
problem
is
the
site:
I,
don't
think,
is
suitable.
It's
been
shoehorned
in
and
it's
been
mid
to
fit.
R
If
the
bus
facilities
were
there.
If
the
facilities
were
there,
then
that
I'd
have
absolutely
no
objections
at
all,
but
my
concern
is
where
it
is
and
the
location.
If
you
look
on
the
plans
as
housing
all
the
way
around
it
and
it's
quiet
residential
houses
as
well,
it's
not
big
sprawl
in
the
states
that
are
just
going
to
absorb
this
site.
R
It's
my
concerns
are
that
it's
difficult
to
get
to
it's
difficult
to
get
vehicles
too,
and
we're
gonna
see
as
a
counselor
I'm,
going
to
see
more
and
more
complaints
from
residents
regarding
vehicle
regarding
antisocial,
behavior
and
access
to
the
area.
If
the
bus
service
was
improved,
I
don't
think
I'd
buy
an
eyelid.
J
Don,
just
on
page
41
of
our
report,
it
says
that
there
is
all
at
the
time
of
writing
the
report.
There
had
only
been
47
representations
26
in
support,
and
we
accept
that
there
is
a
corollary
to
that
figure,
but
an
18
objecting,
bearing
in
mind
the
comments
you've
made,
why
do
you
feel
the
community
have
not
objected
more
strongly
in
line
with
the
things
you've
brought
to
our
attention
today?
R
I
think
it's
the
same
old
thing:
isn't
it
that
they
just
generally
they
aren't
aware
they
tend
to
post
comments
on
social
media
rather
than
pick
up
a
pen
and
paper
and
object
formally
I
know
from
comments
that
I've
had
and
dealing
with
the
residents
that
at
Raven's
Mount
that
are
complaining
currently
about
access
to
the
school.
R
I
know
residents
on
Kent
Road,
who
have
contacted
me
directly
and
said:
they've
got
major
concerns
about
the
vehicles
coming
down:
Kent
Road,
the
speeds
of
vehicles
down
Kent
Road
is
already
an
issue,
so
we've
got
historic
issues
before
this
even
starts
like
I
said
before,
I
will
I'd
welcome
more
bosses
down
there.
It
would
be
amazing,
but
I
just
stopped
thinking
this
climate's
going
to
happen.
R
Given
that
we've
had
two
Council
bus
routes
already
in
our
area,
I,
just
don't
think
residents
feel
listened
to
I
know,
I
didn't
feel
listened
to
when
I
was
a
resident
before
I
was
a
counselor
and
I
think
that
it's
just
access
to
information.
How
do
you
get
the
information
out
that
this
is
happening
same
old
thing
as
soon
as
the
digital
ends
up?
Everyone
will
be
open
arms
about
it.
A
It
comes
with
seriously
Fair.
Everyone
have
the
opportunity
to
comment.
It
was
out
there
to
the
public,
some
replied,
some
doesn't
replied,
so
it's
not
that
they
don't
listen
to
counselor
Anderson
asks
a
question:
what
do
you
think
again?
I
will
say
we
cannot
speak
for
the
individual
only.
They
know
the
reason
why
they
didn't
so.
Obviously
they
are
periods.
F
You
mentioned
the
existing
six
forms
and
the
implication
of
that
for
putsy
children
provides
enough
places
yeah
page
40.
The
report
paragraph
10
actually
says
that
it
will
increase.
This
provision
would
increase
the
supply
of
secondary
places
as
the
partnership
schools.
That's
crawshaw
Leeds
Western
Co-op
Academy
at
pre-site
closed
their
own
sixth
form
provisions,
so
that
will
be
current
Pudsey
children
going
to
the
sixth
form
College,
which
is
not
what
you
were
implying
that
correct.
R
No,
that's
not
what
I'm
playing
I'm
talking
I
know
there's
this
parishion
for
600
pupils,
which
is
why
I
was
talking
about
400
pupils
that
are
coming
from
out
of
the
area
and
pre-stop
do
currently
have
six
Farms,
as
does
grangefield
that's
in
our
world,
so
they
all.
We
we
currently
do
have
six
Farm
provision
for
positive
pupils,
so
this
would
bring
the
pupils
together
in
one
place,
which
I
think
is
a
good
thing
and
I've
said
before
I'm,
not
against
it.
R
It's
just
my
worry
is
there's
the
amount
of
vehicles
and
people
coming
into
this
area.
That's
a
very,
very
built
up
residential
area
with
no
public
transport
available
to
them
are
little
public
transport
available
to
them.
That's
my
concern.
I'm,
not
against
the
sixth
form
at
all,
I
think
it's
a
brilliant
thing
for
policy
and
it'd,
be
brilliant
for
our
kids,
just
local
and
in
the
surrounding
areas,
but
I
just
think
that
this
transport
system
is
just
not
there
to
support
these
children.
A
Speaker
in
the
second
item,
but
I
just
wrote
members
attention
a
couple
of
days
ago,
there's
an
email
came
around
from
one
of
the
applicants:
I
didn't
see
the
email,
the
email
was
withdraw.
What
could
I
ask
you
please
to
ignore
that
email
and
make
your
decision
and
what's
in
the
book
where
and
what
you
have
heard
today.
Thank
you.
A
N
N
S
Thank
you
chair.
We've
been
working
on
this
exciting
and
much
needed
development
in
lots
of
details
for
a
number
of
years
now,
and
it
really
is
a
genuine
partnership
between
the
three
schools:
Croatia
Academy
Co-op,
Academy,
pre-store
and
Lee's
West
Academy,
as
well
as
lead
City
College,
which
is
part
of
illuminate
education
group,
I.
S
Think
given
the
expected
demographic
demographic
growth
of
further
education
Edge
in
Leeds,
and
the
fact
that
the
partner
schools
have
closed
or
are
closing
their
post
16
provision,
a
high
quality
education
provision
is
much
needed
in
Pudsey
and
we
think
it'll
provide
lots
of
benefits,
not
just
that
there'll
be
space
for
600
students
who
will
otherwise
have
to
travel
towards
the
city
center.
It
will
provide
academic
and
Technical
education
in
specialist
facilities,
greatly
improving
the
current
situation,
this
part
of
the
city,
but
importantly,
it
will
allow
the
partner
schools
to
expand
their
year.
S
S
We've
worked
closely
with
our
planning
colleagues
to
engage
with
the
local
community,
to
gather
feedback
and
to
inform
Solutions
and
further
benefits
for
this
project
to
similar
to
summarize
as
well,
given
the
closure
and
displacement
of
post
16
provision
in
the
area
and
the
expected
demographic
uplift
of
young
people
put
to
sixth
form
will
ensure
that
young
people
in
the
area
and
surrounding
areas
will
have
an
excellent
and
local
place
to
study.
Thank
you.
T
Good
afternoon
evening
of
this
project
that
the
application
site
was
a
designated
playing
field,
so
we
set
out
to
identify
alternative
sites
that
could
accommodate
the
new
College
within
the
Pudsey
area.
There
were
and
remain
no
alternative
locations.
We
then
reviewed
the
draft
plane
pitch
strategy
and
the
council's
Green
Space
background
paper.
The
PPS
holds
very
limited
weights
and
is
out
of
date,
we've
identified
Surplus
Outdoor
Provision
of
13
hectares
across
the
policy,
Ward
opportunities
for
increased
match
play
and
improvements
made
to
crawshaw's
artificial
pitch.
T
Unfortunately,
Sporting
Good
would
not
discuss
the
proposals,
dismiss
the
Surplus
and
would
only
consider
a
replacement
pitch.
We
have
been
which
we've
been
unable
to
identify.
We
have,
however,
proposed
a
financial
contribution
of
25
000
pounds
which
will
allow
increased
Sports
play
for
the
local
community.
T
The
benefits
of
the
new
sixth
form
include
growth
and
reprovision
of
the
loss
of
some
480
six
forms
faces
at
the
three
partner
School
and
considered
to
outweigh
the
loss
of
the
designated
unused
pitch
the
start
and
end
times
of
the
sixth
form
are
staggered,
so
they
don't
clash
with
crawshaw's
times.
There
is
significant
capacity
on
the
81
and
14
buses,
so
there's
no
justification
to
put
a
dedicated
bus
service
on,
but
the
college
is
committed
to
monitor
the
bus
services
and
secure
25
000
pounds
in
the
travel
plan
to
respond.
T
If
the
services
impact
students,
around
one-third
of
students
are
entitled
to
free
bus
passes,
ensuring
they
can
attend,
Education
Without,
Financial
barriers,
that's
around
90,
000
pounds
per
annum,
luminates
experience
and
evidence
is
that
very
few
students
drive
and
these
have
accommodated
for
on
site
but
explored
in
detail
providing
pedestrian
access
through
cross
Shores
land
from
Lobby
from
Robin
Lane
for
students,
but
the
partnership
was
unable
to
provide
a
safeguarding
solution.
Nevertheless,
the
various
routes
to
the
Kent
Road
entrance
are
far
far
more
localized
and
cheaper
than
travel
to
Leeds,
City,
Center
or
other
towns.
T
O
T
A
You
are
there
any
question:
councilor
Anderson.
J
Quick
ones:
well,
hopefully,
they'll
be
quick.
How
many
staff
are
you
going
to
be
employing
on
site?
The
reason
for
asking
that
question
is:
it
relates
to
the
number
of
car
parking
spaces
that
you've
got
that's
not
to
say
that
you
wouldn't
have
sufficient
to
take
the
staff,
but
if
you
ever
need
to
increase
the
staff
is
the
capacity
for
some
of
them
to
come
by
car
if
they
can't
use
public
transport.
That's
the
point
of
the
question:
how
many
staff
will
you
actually
have
employed
on
site
for
the
600
pupils.
T
J
Fine
thank
you
and
if
the
other
question
I'm
not
talking
about
using
the
green
space
for
sports
pictures
and
all
of
that,
but
have
you
got
any
recreational
space
built
into
the
site
so
that
the
students
can
well
assume
we
do
get
good
weather
sometime
can
go
out,
sit
out,
do
whatever
they
need
to
do
outside,
relax
or,
alternatively,
some
people
might
want
to
take
a
baseball,
a
baseball,
a
basketball
and
go
to
a
sort
of
mugger
type
thing.
J
O
There
will
be
external
dining
and
seating
for
students
to
relax
due
to
the
constraints
of
the
site,
it's
sort
of
impossible
to
provide
any
kind
of
sporting
that
creation
spaces
such
as
a
Mugger
or
basketball
or
any
of
those
types.
O
J
I
am
a
non-teacher
and
have
no
children
whatsoever.
So
I'm
asking
this
question
from
an
educational
perspective,
is
giving
children
exercise
and
youngsters
exercise
actually
part
of
it
to
make
the
life
sustainable
or
don't
know
not
16..
As
I
say
it's
a
long
time
since
I
was
16
a
heck
of
a
long
time
since
I
was
16.
Q
T
E
Oh,
thank
you,
chair,
just
to
come
back
to
the
playing
fields,
but
before
I
before
I
do
I'd
like
to
make
a
point.
The
young
people
with
bus
passes
certainly
couldn't
use
them
to
vote
last
week.
Could
they
where
it
seems
to
me
I'm
getting
political
I
can
be
when
you,
when
you
think
that
older
people
can
use
the
bus
passes
and
we
were
talking
about
bus
passes.
That's
a
connection
Dan,
but
my
my
real
question
is
I.
E
Don't
think
it's
a
great
deal
of
25
000
to
improve
Sports
pitches.
I
think
you
can
be
a
lot
more
generous
than
that.
We
know
because
we're
all
sitting
on
planning
committees
how
little
you
get
for
your
money.
I'd
have
thought
you
know
we
could
be
generous
there.
It
might
help
your
case
when
this
use
goes
to
the
Secretary
of
State,
but
you're
actually
putting
some
real
money
into
facilities.
I
think
it
should
be
mean
actually
25,
000
and
I'd.
Like
you,
you
can
just
talk
a
bit
amongst
yourself.
E
If
you
want
I'd
like
you
to
consider
offering
50
000
pounds
quite
honestly,
so
you
people
can
get.
Are
you
are?
You
are
you
shaking
that
then:
okay,
yeah,
so
I
leave
it
there,
but
it's
it's
very
means.
A
L
Are
just
going
to
I
think
you
know
what
I'm
going
to
say.
Clearly,
the
materiality
and
the
material
considerations
apply
to
the
calculus
that
you've
undertaken,
which
is
not
something
we
don't
want
to
Veer
into
buying
planning
permissions
in
this
forum
we
don't
and
and
then
clearly
the
25k
that's
been
put
forward.
I
would
hope
has
been
calculated
appropriately
and
if
you
wish
to
recalculate
that,
in
accordance
with
the
sums
that
you've
got
that's
a
matter
for
you
as
applicant.
L
F
O
O
We
haven't
focused
on
rainwater
harvesting,
but
it
is
something
that
we
can
look
into,
but
it
is
a
bmxons
building
right
again
at
our
Target.
So
there's
a
lot
of
areas
within
the
briam
criteria,
but
we
are
achieving
fully.
You
know
through
a
target
of
Excellence
as
standard.
H
Hi
I
just
wanted
to
give
you
an
opportunity
based
on
what
council
McKenna
just
said.
I
know
we
just
had
the
legal
advice,
but
there's
just
two
two
slightly
conflicting
things:
I
heard
just
before
the
presentation
meant
mentioned:
25
000
per
annum,
but
in
the
report
just
says,
25
000.
Could
you
please
just
mention
what
does
what
it
is,
though,
if
it
is
per
random
or
a
one-off.
T
The
25
000
per
annum
is
for
the
bus
provision
and
the
25
000
for
the
the
sports
mitigation
is,
is
a
fixed
amount.
I
I
wonder
if
I
may
expand
slightly
on
that
is.
Is
that
possible?
Based
on
the
earlier
question,
you're.
T
It's
it's
a
response,
how
we
got
to
the
25k,
and
we
took
a
combination
of
the
costs
given
to
us.
I
think
it
was
the
football
Foundation
cost
and
the
grounds
maintenance,
Association
costs,
and
we
looked
at
how
much
it
costs
per
pitch
based
on
the
quality
of
that
pitch
and
I'm.
Quite
sure.
Some
of
that
set
out
in
the
plans
panel
report
as
well,
which
includes
the
cost
it
will
be
for
the
various
aspects
to
improve
those
pictures.
T
So
you
can
improve
the
match,
play
on
them
and
we
we
calculated
that
and
it
allows
us
to
provide
that
those
allows
the
council
using
that
those
Monies
to
provide
the
improvements
to
and
sorry
and
based
on
the
cost
to
Huff's
side
and
Queen's
Park.
So
we
used
it
on
specific
examples.
So
that's
how
we
got
to
those
Monies.
A
N
A
Think
mine
might
be
for
you
and
Nigel
with
regards
to
councilor
Smith's
point
that
charades,
okay,
okay,
so
there
any
other
questions
now.
Thank
you
very
much.
A
Okay!
So
is
counselor.
Hamilton
first
comment
to
officers.
Yes,
so
I'm
losing
question:
yeah
counselors
on
page
and
39
counselor
Smith's
point
with
regards
to
the
internal
pedestrian
for
footpath.
N
A
39
paragraph
five.
P
Thank
you,
councilor
Martin,
this.
This
relates
to
what
What
was
a
pre-application
proposal
for
an
internal
pedestrian
link
through
the
crochet
site,
I
think
that
was
explored
by
by
the
applicants,
but
because
of
safeguarding
reasons.
It
wasn't
possible
to
provide
that
link
through
the
cross,
Shore
Academy
site
and
vice
versa
and
I.
P
Think
I
said
that
in
the
introduction
that
the
dedicated
staff
access
route
will
be
on
a
fob
access
system
to
prevent
students
from
the
college
entering
crochet
and
vice
versa,
because
of
safeguarding
reasons
so
so
for
that
reason,
I
think
it
was
removed
from
from
from
the
initial
proposal.
A
So
that's
based
on
safeguarding
for
the
pupils,
so
will
the
staff
entrance
be
safe,
then,
and
let.
P
J
P
Yes,
we
do
have
an
architectural
liaison
officer.
They
were
consulted
as
part
of
this
application.
J
P
Well,
they
haven't,
objected
councilman
Anderson
to
the
to
the
Apple
to
the
application.
P
J
Next,
one
is
what
are
the
current
accident
levels
in
the
area,
because
I
am
a
I
understood
that
three
people
have
been
knocked
down
on
that
area
and
that's
resulted
in
bringing
The
Pedestrian
Crossing
up
the
scale
it's
been
introduced
quicker
as
a
result
of
that.
What
are
the
what's,
the
general
accident
level
in
the
locality.
C
J
That's
fine,
that's
fine
and,
depending
on
it
is,
can
you
confirm
whether
or
not
the
walking
distances
that
we've
talked
about
are
policy
compliant
or
if
they
are
not
polishing
compliant?
It
is
your
view
that
they
are
acceptable
within
an
overall
framework.
P
Thank
you,
I
think
I
said
in
my
my
introduction
that
the
car
strategy
accessibility
standards
are
not
met.
The
site
does
not
meet
that
criteria.
P
I
think
it's
a
five
minute
walk
to
a
to
a
transport,
Hub
and
I
also
think
I
mentioned
that
it's
approximately
a
10
minute
walk
a
brisk
walk
to
principal
station,
which
is
just
over
a
kilometer
away
to
the
to
the
north
west
of
the
site
and
in
relation
to
Bromley
train
station.
That's
just
over
two
kilometers.
A
Can
I
just
make
it
it's
something
totally
not
on
this
application,
but
I,
don't
know
if
you
know
the
fun
part
Health
Center,
where
you
go
over
your
doctor,
sent
to
you
when
you
get
off
the
bus,
you
have
to
work
good,
10-15
minutes
to
get
to
the
center
and
it's
a
really
enjoyable
work,
so
I'm
just
taking
it
with
the
school.
If
the
kids
have
to
work
10
minutes,
it
is
a
good
activity.
So
sometimes
we
just
have
to
work
with
what
we've
got.
J
Don't
actually
disagree
with
you,
so
what
we
need
to
do
is
we
need
to
then
reflect
our
policies
because,
in
other
words,
what
our
job
today
is
to
ensure
that
whatever's
before
us
is
policy
compliance
and
if
it's
not,
we
then
take
a
balanced
judgment
on
it.
So
I
was
just
emphasizing
the
fact.
One
part
isn't
the
vast
majority
of
it
is
policy
component
that
part
isn't.
I
was
just
wanting
clarification.
A
N
E
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
chair
question
to
officers
this
so
I'll.
Apologize
to
our
legal
representative,
I
haven't
had
any
justification
that
25
000
would
would
be
appropriate
for
improving
playing
pictures
in
the
area
and
is
meeting
our
policy
I'd
be
grateful
if
you
could
take
me
through
that.
It
seems
to
me
the
piffling
amount
and
I.
Don't
really
think
that
you're
going
to
get
a
lot
of
improvement
on
any
playing
fields
for
25,
000.
I'm,
basing
that
on
schools
in
my
area
and
I
know
how
little
that
money
Buys.
P
Thank
you,
Council
McKenna,
the
I
think
I
think
the
the
balance
is
based
on
the
need
for
the
development
and
there's
an
overriding
need
for
that
and
that's
been
demonstrated
today
and
and
there's
also
confirmation
of
that
position
from
from
our
colleagues
in
children's
services
who
who
support
that
that
overall
need
the
the
mitigation
offered
by
the
the
applicant
of
a
contribution
of
25
000
pounds
is
is,
is
is
obviously
betterment.
P
I
I
can't
justify
that
figure.
Clearly
in
in
the
scheme
of
providing
significant
infrastructure,
it's
not
going
to
deliver
that
much,
but
but
I,
don't
think
the
decision
hinges
on
that
particular
matter.
I
think
it's
based
on
on
on
on
on
need.
There
is
a
surplus
of
of
playing
pictures
in
the
area
when
you
weigh
The
Proposal
up
against
the
Green
Space
background
paper,
which
was
used
in
evidence
in
in
terms
of
the
preparation
for
the
site
allocation
plan.
P
I
accept
there
is
an
objection
from
statutory
objection
from
from
Sports
England.
They
rely
on
a
different
document
and
I.
Don't
think
those
comparisons
are
the
same,
but
ultimately
we
we
have
to
make
a
recommendation
to
you,
but
I.
Certainly
can't
justify
that
that
that
sum,
but
all
I
can
say,
is
that
it
will.
It
will
be
used
towards
enhancing
spotting
provision
in
the
locality
and
and
it
is
of
limited
weight
in
terms
of
the
overall
balance.
E
I
I
do
understand
the
need
for
the
facility
and
I
suppose
that's
why
we
we
we're
looking
at
things
like
inadequate
bus
service
worries
about
Transportation.
What
have
you?
The
need
is
one
thing,
but
at
the
end
of
the
day,
if
we're
going
to
take
away,
Green,
Space
and
we
are
and
I
mean,
I
haven't
seen
the
breakdown
of
playing
pitches
in
this
year.
E
P
Okay,
thank
you.
There
is
a
section
in
paragraph
81.
No,
it's
done
in
the
fact
that
and
I've
corrected
the
the
the
the
suffix
in
in
that
paragraph
relating
to
G6,
but
but
that
does
show
that
within
the
Ward
there
is
a
surplus
of
6.18
hectares
of
outdoor
spark
provision
and
as
I
say,
that
was
used
in
evidence
when
the
sap
was
was
was
being
prepared.
P
Just
as
I've
heard
of
the
point
of
clarity
on
the
25
000
pounds,
the
there's
no
policy
requirement
for
that.
It's
the
offer
which
the
applicant
has
made
in
addition
to
the
arguments
that
I've
already
set
out
in
relation
to
need.
So
so
in
public
terms,
it
doesn't
have
to
be
justified
because
because
there
is
no
there's
no
requirement
for
that.
E
Just
like
to
find
out
that
in
my
own
world
Army
there
is
a
drastic
shortage
of
playing
fields
and
a
lot
of
young
spotting
people
will
play
in
potsy
as
well.
E
It
does
seem
to
me
that
the
best
way
of
having
increased
use
on
a
playing
field
is
to
improve
the
quality
of
that
playing
pitch,
and
this
certainly
doesn't
go
anywhere
near
to
it.
I
understand
the
need
and
that's
why
I
spoke
in
favor
of
it
in
the
first
place,
but
I
do
feel
that
you
know
we.
We
have
to
protect
our
Green
Space
at
every
opportunity
and
perhaps
we're
not
paying
enough
attention
to
that.
In
this
case,.
A
Counselor
McKenna
I
do
agree
with
you
with
green
space
because
I'm,
certainly
in
green
space,
but,
however,
it's
20
years
that
field
have
been
used.
You
know
so
it's
20
years,
so
take
that
into
consideration
as
well.
We
are
not
taking
it
away,
it
was
there
to
be
used
and
it
have
been
used.
So
we
are
utilized
well
that
way,
but
it
is
offered
to
be
utilizing
something
else.
It's
not
that
we're
taking
away
that
fail.
20
years
is
a
long
time
and
I'm
sure
you
agree
with
me
with
that.
A
E
Longer
than
20
years,
chair
and
I
went
to
the
high
court
and
he
was
ruled
against
the
council
had
to
back
off
because
they
wouldn't
tolerate
the
loss
of
the
play
Fields.
It
doesn't
matter
whether
it's
not
playing
right,
it's
capable
of
being
played
on,
and
that
was
the
essence
of
the
Judgment,
so
I'm
afraid
I'm,
not
convinced
I'm,
just
not
convinced
and
I.
Think
I
will
have
to
vote
again.
Some
of
that
basis,
which
I
think
we
should
have
had
a
better
offer.
P
I
also
think
it's
just
worth
mentioning
if
I
may,
that
this
isn't
public
open,
Green
Space.
This
is
space
within
an
enclosed
area,
part
of
the
Cross
Shore
Academy
and
yes,
it
hasn't
been
used
for
well
over
15
years
from
the
evidence
that's
been
presented,
but
also
the
refusal
of
this
application
wouldn't
change
that
situation.
P
C
Sorry
for
not
being
properly
prepared,
our
collisions
map
here
is
showing
five
accidents
in
the
vicinity.
Three
are
slight
severity
to
our
serious
severity.
All
five
of
them
happened
more
than
five
years
ago.
There's
no
there's
none
more
recent
than
that.
A
J
J
Yes
to
both
of
those
I
do
have
some
concerns,
though,
expressed
by
Ward
members
in
terms
of
car
parking
spaces
provision
for
taxi
species,
the
need
for
maybe
a
dedicated
bus
service
to
get
people
to
and
from
so
that
we
can
guarantee
that
the
students
will
get
there,
no
matter
what
the
state
of
the
public
transport
is
so
and
I,
also
because
of
personal
experience
would
need
to
see
further
information
that
the
drainage
is
actually
going
to
be
dealt
with,
because
personal
experience
has
taught
me
that
it's
not
always
the
case.
J
The
accessible
Strat
strategy.
We've
said
that's
not
in
compliance,
but
we
understand
why,
and
there
have
been
some
accidents
in
the
past.
Okay,
I
accept
it's
been
a
long
time
since,
if
you're
bringing
more
students
into
the
area
and
more
traffic
particularly
cycling,
particularly
with
cyclists,
if
you're
bringing
more,
if
on
the
on
the
presumption
of
the
600
pupils,
looked
it
doesn't
matter
what
percentage
you
take.
You
get
more
people
cycling
and
in
conflict
with
vehicles
coming
or
going.
J
The
probability
must
increase
of
an
accident
occurring,
because
the
more
you've
got
of
a
particular
thing
occurring.
It
must
mean,
and
so
I've
got
concerns
there.
So
what
I'm
looking
at
is
fine
I
can't
vote
against
it,
but
not
behind
it.
Now
if
there
was
a
way
to
take
the
suggestion
that
came
from
councilor
Smith
that
we
go
back
talk
a
bit
further
and
then
we
can
talk
to
the
residents
again
then
find
I'd
be
happy
with
that.
J
Now,
I,
don't
know
legally,
whether
or
not
in
the
time
that
the
inspector
is
calling
this
application
in.
If
we
can
utilize
that
time
to
try
and
bring
in
some
improvements
to
try
and
keep
because
I
don't
want
to
hold
it
up,
I,
don't
wanna
I,
don't
want
to
hold
it
up,
but
I
do
have
some
concerns
and
it's
it's
troubling
me
to
be
quite
Frank,
because
I
want
to
to
go
ahead,
but
I've
also
got
some
concerns.
I.
J
I
Thanks
chair
I've
got
real
problems
with
this
application,
actually
because
I
think
there
are
some
some
real
strengths
to
it.
As
colleagues
have
said,
there
is
I
think
there
is
Need
for
sick
for
really
good
six-porn
provision
and
I
have
absolute.
No
doubt
this
will
be
really
good.
Six
well,
sixth
form
provision
along
with
most
new
bills.
Sixth
form
provision,
it'll,
probably
make
really
good
stem
provision,
and
that's
that's
something.
That's
definitely
needed,
but
I
have
two
real
issues.
I
One
is
the
accessibility
and
for
me,
it's
more
than
it
just
not
being
policy
compliant
I
know.
Every
single
counselor
in
this
city
has
a
good
percentage
of
our
inbox.
Around
parking
round
schools
I
mean
it's
just
a
an
absolute
gimme,
and
when
you
bring
sick
formers,
there
will
be
a
percentage
of
those
sick.
Farmers
that
are
going
to
drive
I
would
imagine
with
I'm
plucking
figures
out
there,
based
on
actually
I'm,
not
basically
on
experience.
I
I
There
will
be
those
that
will
cycle
and
that's
positively
an
increasing
number
and
I
am,
but
that's
because
there
isn't
the
local
transport
provision
and
we
accept-
and
we
accept
that
this
is
not
policy
compliance,
so
I
always
worry
when
something
isn't
policy
compliance,
particularly
when
it's
something
that
is
going
to
drive
a
minimum
of
two
Journeys
a
day
and
because
that's
what's
good,
you
know,
people
arrive
and
people
leave
and
let's
go
and
live
there,
which
is
not
so
I
have
real
issues
with
this
not
meeting
our
accessibility
standards
and
then
there
is
no
secret
I
I
I'm,
always
really
robust
about
trying
to
protect
Green
Space,
because
when
it's
gone,
it's
gone
forever
and
I.
I
I
take
a
a
degree
of
comfort
by
for
me,
the
the
excellent
points
counselor
Siri
made,
but
nonetheless
Sports
England
for
me
need
to
be
listened
to.
They're
they're
there
for
a
reason:
they're,
not
they
don't
represent
anybody
other
than
future
generations
of
people
who
are
going
to
need
access
to
sports
provision.
And
for
me
when
they
say
this
is
a
problem.
I
listen
and
give
it
significant
weight
and.
I
Therefore,
I
really
have
a
challenge
with
this
application
and
I,
don't
know
where
I'm
going
with
it,
but
nothing
has
been
said
that
reassures
me
today
on
those
two
points
and
I'm
really
grateful
to
this
to
the
applicant
for
coming.
I'm,
particularly
grateful
for
councilor
Siri,
coming
to
my
career
points
and
for
the
points
that
councilor
Smith
has
made
as
well,
because
I
when
local
Ward
members
say
there's
an
issue
here
in
terms
of
accessibility
and
it
doesn't
meet
our
accessibility
standards.
I
Q
And
yeah
I
just
want
to
speak
up
on
a
couple
of
points
of
that,
because
if
five
to
ten
percent
of
the
students
are
going
to
drive,
that's
the
maximum
of
60
based
on
600.,
but
in
sixth
form
they're,
not
all
in
at
the
same
time.
So
you'll
have
people
coming
and
going.
You
might
have
a
couple
of
lessons,
you'll
go
and
so
I
think
the
20
car
parking
space
is
that
if
students
would
cover
that
yeah
inbox
this
morning,
school
parking
was
in
my
inbox
this
morning,
absolutely.
Q
But
what
what
I
wish
we
had
in
other
schools
and
I'm
not
saying
this
is
perfect
but
instructions
imagination,
but
is
those
10
drop-off
points
and
a
turn
in
circles
to
get
out
again?
If
we
could
all
have
one
of
those
in
our
high
school,
it
would
alleviate
our
inboxes
enormously.
So,
whilst
the
no
it's
not
perfect,
I
am
encouraged
by
the
fact
that
there's
10
drop-off
spaces
and
a
turning
Circle
to
get
out
if
you're
getting
dropped
off
by
your
parents
or
whoever
carers
or
whatever's,
bringing
you
and
and
I
really
wish.
Q
We
could.
You
know
do
that
in
in
every
school
that
we
build
from
now
on
or
existing
schools.
You
know
and
I
get
your
point
about
the
green
space
as
well,
but
from
what
we've
been
told,
that's
green
space
is
Dorman,
it's
not
being
used.
It's
not
been
used
for
a
very
long
time
and
I
would
rather
see
I
I
absolutely
protect
green
space.
But
if
it's
not
being
used,
it's
dormant,
we
need
education
and
I
would
rather
see
it
be
used
for
educational
purposes.
You
know
to
build
a
college
on
so
yeah.
P
Thank
you
chair,
just
just
as
a
point
of
clarification.
I
should
perhaps
should
have
mentioned
this
as
well
in
the
in
the
introduction.
The
the
applicant
is
also
proposing
funding
for
tros.
So
if,
if
there
is
an
issue
in
the
vicinity
of
the
site
in
relation
to
on-street
car
parking,
then
there
is
funding
in
place
to
introduce
traffic
regulation
orders
to
to
to
alleviate
to
alleviate
that.
N
F
On
the
question
of
this
field,
that's
currently
not
in
use,
it
will
cost
significantly
more
than
25
000
pounds
to
fetch
it
into
use.
A
local
sports
club
in
my
area
has
spent
a
significant
six-figure
sum
on
doing
similar
work
that
it
sounds
like
this
needs
doing:
leveling
drainage,
Etc,
it's
a
significant
six-figure
sum
coaching,
200
000,
so
you're
talking,
there's
absolutely
no
way.
It
will
come
back
into
use
as
a
sports
field
because
of
those
sums
because
getting
it
isn't
easy.
F
F
I'm
would
like
to
see
something
put
in
as
a
condition
around
rainwater
harvesting,
though,
because
they've
got
a
large
roof
space
there
it
would
be
ideal
and
they
would
cut
water
usage
significantly
by
that
the
normal
men's
water
usage.
So
I
would
like
to
see
something
putting
about
that,
but
generally
I,
think
I'm.
Probably
my
move
in
favor
of
this.
A
H
It'll
be
a
quick
one,
I
I
think
I
think
the
biggest
part
of
it
being
linked
with
three
other
Sacrament
schools
and
effectively
them
being
a
feeding
school.
So
then
those
schools,
then,
if
they
need
to,
can
develop
the
provision
for
second
school
places
within
Without
Really
developing
on
their
own
grounds,
for
me,
is
a
really
significant
bonus
of
this.
It's
taken
up
a
space
that
isn't
currently
used,
whereas
these
three
high
schools
might
then
need
to
develop
in
spaces.
A
L
Hamilton,
could
you
just
clarify
if
you're
moving
the
officer
recommendation?
Okay,
thank
you.
Yes,.
N
A
M
Sorry
I've
just
been
reminded
that
the
public
transport
provision
net
sum
of
25
000
pounds
is
not
also
on
the
front
face,
so
that
is
an
additional
element
there,
but
I'm
sure
members
would
agree
to
that
as
well.
Yeah.