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A
Okay,
good
morning,
everyone
welcome
to
today's
strategy
and
resources
scrutiny
board.
My
name
is
Council
Andy,
Scopes
and
I'm
the
chair
of
this
board.
It's
really
full
and
packed
agenda
today,
so
I
try
and
keep
us
on
track.
The
best
I
can
so
we'll
start
with
some
introductions.
If
that's
okay,
so
I
already
said
I
only
Scopes
I
represent
the
Beast
and
holbeck
Ward
and
we'll
go
to
my
left.
N
Morning,
everybody
councilor
Deborah
Cooper
exit
board
member
for
his
asses.
A
Super
thank
you
very
much.
Hopefully,
if
you're
watching
online,
you
haven't
got
vertical
from
that
or
the
if
you're
interested
all
the
online
paper.
All
the
papers
we're
looking
at
are
online,
so
you
can
search
them
in
any
good
search
engine.
Okay,
I'm,
going
to
pass
on
to
Debbie
for
the
first,
a
few
formal
items.
B
Thank
you
chair
under
gender
item
one.
There
are
no
appeals
against
the
refusal
of
inspection
of
documents
under
gender
item
two.
There
are
no
exempt
items
under
gender
item.
Three.
There
are
no
late
items
under
gender
item.
4
could
I
ask
members
to
declare
any
interests
and
I'll
take
silence
as
there
are
none
a
gender
item.
Five.
There
are
no
apologies
chair.
A
Super
thanks
very
much
okay,
so
we're
gonna
move
on
to
the
minutes.
First,
just
on
the
minutes,
I'm
proposing
an
amendment
so
at
the
last
meeting,
Tom
ridden
noted
that
he
he
did
reverse
mentoring
with
one
of
the
staff,
Network
chairs
and
I.
Think
that's
a
really
important
thing
and
something
that
we
should
make
sure
is
on
the
public
record,
so
I'm
proposing.
We
add
that
into
the
minutes.
A
R
Thank
you
chair,
just
a
few
items
from
our
our
last
meeting
on
minute
66,
which
is
the
EDI
update
and
staff
networks
item,
just
to
say
that
I'm
pursuing
with
HR
colleagues
some
additional
information
that
was
requested
by
the
board.
So
that's
around
a
breakdown
of
staff
characteristics
across
various
services
and
directorates
a
minute
67.
Similarly,
with
the
Devolution
item,
I'm
in
contact
with
Ben
Stiller's
office
regarding
some
additional
information
around
policing
and
the
PCC
and
adult
education
that
the
board
requested,
of
course,
can.
A
You
read
just
highlight
that
we
want
the
information
as
soon
as
soon
as
possible.
Please
thank
you.
R
That's
fine
and
then,
lastly,
the
work
program
which
I
referred
minute,
69,
which
I
referenced
in
the
the
pre-meeting
just
to
say
we're
working
on
a
EDI
working
group
for
the
board,
which
I
think
is
likely
to
come
in
early
March,
so
just
to
flag
them
up
in
the
public
meeting
as
well.
Thank
you
chap.
A
This
is
really
important
item
around
consultation,
mass
communication
which
I
think
Mariana
wants
to
introduce.
You
can
assume
that
we've
read
the
papers,
but
if
there's
anything
important,
you
want
to
draw
out
that's
fine.
Thank
you.
M
Yeah,
just
perhaps
you
just
bring
the
paper
to
life
a
little
bit.
It's
worth
just
saying.
As
you
said
charity,
this
is
a
really
really
important
set
of
functions.
It's
quite
complicated
three
interrelated
issues,
I
think
in
relation
to
kind
of
mass
communications,
consultation,
engagement
and
also
the
contact
center.
M
The
report
highlights
you
know
what
a
couple
of
fairly
small
functions
do,
but
how
important
this
is
that
it's
everybody's
business,
so
that
those
who
are
engaging
with
the
public
are
experts
in
that
domain
and
that
we,
you
know,
but
we
do
have
some
really
good
expertise.
The
report
has
been
really
useful
to
pull
together
for
us.
It's
given
us
a
few
ideas
of
what
we
might
do,
which
are
you
know,
captured
in
that
section
towards
the
end,
otherwise
really
interested
to
take
questions
and
suggestions
from
Members.
Thank
you.
A
And
we've
got
questions
from
members:
cancer,
Firth.
P
Thank
you.
Thank
you
very
much,
chair
I,
wanted
to
ask
a
little
bit
about
the
road
testing
of
consultations
by
the
team
really
in
terms
of
the
public
face.
I
use
a
particular
example
of
a
live
consultation
at
the
moment,
which
is
the
six-week
consultation
on
the
sap
remittal.
P
Besides,
on
occasions,
primary
metal
and
I
just
wondered
really,
if
you
could
talk
through
Road
testing,
because
I'm
getting
a
number
of
concerns
from
residents
about
being
able
to
fill
it
in
in
terms
of
being
able
to
understand
easily
what
people
are
being
asked
for,
and
also
more
generally,
what
they're
actually
seeing
in
terms
of
actually
being
able
to
understand
it
when
they
actually
get
into
in
the
first
place.
Thank
you.
S
Thank
you
good
morning,
yeah.
As
we
mentioned
in
the
report,
it's
it's.
It's
generally
a
directorate
LED
setup
that
we
have
so
we've
got
a
very
small
team
that
provide
as
much
support
as
we
can,
but
in
some
areas
we're
we're
not
involved
in
every
single
piece
of
work
that
goes
on
out
there.
So
I'm
not
actually
aware
of
that
piece
of
work.
S
So
I
can't
comment
on
that
one,
but
for
other
pieces
of
work
we
we
just
use
the
experience
that
we've
had
from
doing
many
previous
consultations
and
and
and
and
the
feedback
that
we
get
from
residents
on
that.
K
Thanks
Joe
thanks
councilman
I
mean,
as
Frank
said.
It's
that's
something
that
is
being
led
by
City
development
directorate
I
mean
that
said,
through
the
support
that
we
provide.
We
do
try
to
to
sort
of
encourage
colleagues
and
support
colleagues
with
some
general
principles
around
good
consultation
and
engagement
around
things
like
using
plain
English
language
wherever
possible,
which
I
appreciate.
K
We
don't
always
get
right
as
a
council,
but
it's
certainly
the
direction
we're
trying
to
to
travel
in,
and
we
know
in
the
report
that
Mariana
mentioned
through
producing
this
one
of
the
things
it's
sort
of
got
us
thinking
about
is
how
we
can
expand
that
support
to
perhaps
overcome
some
of
the
issues
that
residents
might
be
facing
with
accessing
consultations,
and
one
of
the
things
we're
thinking
of
doing
and
planning
to
do
is
what
we
call
a
let's
talk
session
for
internal
colleagues,
delivering
consultation
engagement
that
will
help
make
it
a
little
bit
more
accessible
for
them
to
get
that
support
with
how
to
pitch
things,
and
so
that
it's
understandable
for
the
for
the
for
the
citizen,
I
suppose
that
said,
we
know
it.
K
We've
done
in
the
past,
where
there
might
be
specific
legal
requirements
of
how
things
are
port
and
how
things
are
phrased
and
presented,
which
is
always
really
tricky
to
navigate,
but
certainly
we
will
do
the
best
we
can
to
sort
of
do
explainers
all
that
kind
of
thing
and
something
to
say
the
report
has
prompted,
is
US
thinking
about
how
to
expand
that
support,
so
that
there
are
less
of
the
issues,
even
if
we
can't
eradicate
them
completely
going
forward.
I
hope
that
helps
a
little
bit.
P
But
it
is
slightly
concerning,
unless
you're
able
to
give
any
more
meat
on
the
bone
in
terms
of
the
Cross
Department
working,
that's
happening
to
actually
make
sure
that
we're
actually
learning
from
mistakes
that
are
happening
or
potentially
from
good
things
that
are
being
done
when
it
comes
to
certain
consultations.
I
know
that,
for
example,
that
the
council
is
particularly
Keen
or
wika
is
particularly
Keen.
P
P
At
the
very
same
time,
one
run
by
this
Council
and
one
run
by
weiker,
and
it
meant
that
there
was
a
serious
conflict
between
actually
people,
understanding
which
one
they
were
replying
to
and
what
information
they
should
be
providing
for
which
could
you
give
some
clarity
on
what
you're
doing
with
other
organizations
that
have
similar
responsibilities
to
yourself
to
be
able
to
do
that
and,
as
a
second
question,
very
cheekily?
What
usage
are
using
of
Facebook
in
terms
of?
P
Is
it
something
that
you're
looking
to
expand
the
amount
of
work
that's
happening,
and
the
council
is
doing
particular
work
on
voter
registration
and
other
things
that
it
wants
to
promote
and
how
big
a
budget
in
terms
of
their
providing
to
actually
ensure
we
connect
with
our
residents
in
the
most
modern
way
possible.
Thank
you.
A
It's
not
it's
not
working
for
you
today,
okay,
so
Debbie's
just
going
to
go
down
and
check
the
card.
So
hopefully
Mariana
can
comment.
M
Sorry
about
that
yeah
quite
a
lot
in
there
canceled
book,
I
think
the
first
thing
to
say
in
terms
of
you
know
kind
of
how
we
work
across
the
council.
You
know
we
do
constantly
try
and
work
across
and
join
things
up,
but
we
are
a
big
organization.
M
M
You
know
to
try
and
encourage
everybody
and,
as
Mike
said,
you
know,
potentially
looking
to
do
more
training
and
development
on
this
area
with
more
middle
managers,
so
that
you
know
we
get
those
connections
and
help
people
to
understand
why
it's
important
to
do
those
connections,
because
I
think
sometimes
people
are
really
Keen
to
get
on
with
engaging
on
what
they
want
to
engage
on,
which
is
a
good
thing,
but
obviously
we
also
want
them
to
you
know:
do
that
and
be
in
complacent
of
other
developments
as
well.
M
So
you
know
we'll
take
away
an
action
to
continually
improve
that,
as
as
best
we
can
in
terms
of
the
question
about
other
organizations
again
I
think
we
would
need
to
take
an
action
to
talk
to
the
combined
Authority
or
have
a
think
about
who
else
might
be
the
main
organizations
that
we'd
want
to
talk
to
where
there
might
be
those
main
clashes,
and
we
could
perhaps
try
and
work
through
that
with
the
localities
team
as
well.
Who
may
be
quite
well
cited
on
those
things
in
terms
of
Facebook
and
digital
playrooms?
M
It's
not
something
that
we
have
looked
into
in.
You
know
in
the
team
at
the
so
far
I,
don't
think.
Facebook
obviously
is
used
by
the
comms
and
marketing
team
a
fair
bit,
and
you
know
we'll
I.
Guess
we're
constantly
looking
at
some
of
those
new
tools
and
how
we
can
engage
differently
whilst
also
keeping
hold
of
some
of
those
traditional
ones,
because
we
do
want
to
engage
everybody
and
not.
Everybody
is
comfortable
with
those
digital
channels.
S
I
can
just
add
to
that
as
well
for
the
in
terms
of
the
digital
playroom,
it's
something
we
we
did
a
few
years
ago
for
the
for
the
budget
consultation.
We
we
carried
out,
we
kind
of
gamified
the
budget,
so
you
could
it
was.
It
was
delivered
a
bit
like
a
game
where
you,
you
chose
what
costs
you
wanted
to
apply
to
what
and
it
worked
very
well,
but
it's
it's
quite.
S
There
is
quite
a
big
cost
attributed
to
putting
those
in
place
it's
about
five
to
five
to
ten
thousand
pound.
To
do
so.
It's
it's
something
we
we
we
use
sparingly,
so
we
haven't
used
that
recently,
but
it
is
an
approach
that
we've
used
in
the
past
and
it's
something
we
do
consider
foreign.
P
Er
are
doing,
but
I
think
that,
with
as
many
of
my
residents
feel
with
the
amount
of
consultations
that
come
out
for
different
subjects,
you
can
get
confused
between
which
one's
providing
which
can
I
ask
then,
as
a
result,
what
sort
of
very
quickly?
What
sort
of
statistical
analysis
are
you
doing
to
ensure
that
the
range
of
consultations
that
we're
doing
given
that
people
feel
they've
got
consultation
fatigue?
P
S
Yeah
we
do
when
we're
supporting
services,
we
do
recommend
that
they
they
carry
out
where
possible,
the
the
minimum
amount
of
consultation
not
always
well,
not
the
minimum,
but
enough.
We
don't
there's
often
assumptions
that
you
need
to
get
in
touch
with
absolutely
everybody
for
something
to
be
accurate,
but
we
can
use
statistical
calculations
to
give
them
some
guidance
on
how
much
they
actually
need
to
do
so.
We
we
often
do
that
and-
and
it
keeps
the
cost
down
as
well.
S
So
there
is
a
cost
attributed
to
doing
this
kind
of
consultation,
and
obviously
we
don't.
We
don't
want
to
carry
out
infinitely
more
than
we
need
to
so
yeah.
We
as
part
of
the
guidance
we
we
do.
We
do
tell
people
how
much
they
would
need
to
carry
out
for
the
minimum
to
be
accurate,
so
I
think
this
microphone's
a
bit
Dicky.
Is
it
okay?
Is
it
coming
on
yeah,
okay,.
O
Thanks
very
much
indeed
the
mention
of
the
calendar
of
future
corporate
Communications.
Could
you
tell
us
a
wee
bit
more
about
that?
You
know
what
what
the
access
to
it
is
likely
to
be.
I
Yeah
I
can
try
and
speak
to
that
a
little
bit.
So
we
we
use
a
program.
That's
part
of
Microsoft
teams
called
planner,
so
the
idea
is
that
teams
that
have
any
individual,
director
or
team
will
have
access
to
that
shared
resource
and
be
able
to
coordinate
anything,
that's
incoming
or
outgoing,
and
see
where
those
overlaps
are.
So
it
refers
to
the
earlier
question
a
little
bit
as
well,
because
it
means
we'll
be
able
to
judge
a
little
bit
better.
I
O
Is
it
a
purely
internal
calendar
who
will
have
access
to
it?
Other
than
service
leads.
I
It
is,
it
is
at
present,
but
we're
in
that
process
with
RDS
looking
at
how
we
can
sort
of
open
that
up
to
external
providers
as
well
and
partners
that
we
work
with
so
I
know.
Some
teams
do
have
access
to.
You
know
that
resource
externally,
but
I
think
that's
probably
the
way
forward
test
it
internally.
I
see
how
it
works
first
and
then
work
with
Partners
to
open
it
up
a
little
bit
more.
So
we
get
that
that
broader
picture.
F
Thank
you
chair.
A
couple
of
points.
You've
you've
touched
on,
but
specifically
good
quality
consultation
is
mentioned
several
times
in
the
paper
and
I
just
wondered
if
you
could
Define
good
quality
consultation
for
me,
so
I
understand
what
what
the
themes
are
aiming
at.
Second
point
is
at
paragraph
four,
where
it
says
the
tutor
teams
work
side
by
side
Etc
and
the
example
given
is
the
budget
consultation
or
staff
engagement
surveys?
Could
you
give
me
a
concrete
example
of
how
that's
worked?
F
Well,
because
it's
an
example
that
you've
chosen
to
share-
and
my
final
point
is
the
voice
and
influence
team
are
mentioned
in
here,
as
making
consultation
accessible
for
young
people
and
children
and
I've
been
involved
to
some
degree,
with
local
Plan
update
one
and
two
in
the
in
the
planning
department
with
that
team
to
make
it
more
accessible
to
children.
In
your
view,
how
successful
has
that
piece
of
work
been,
and
what
do
you
see
their
role
as
being?
Thank
you.
M
Maybe
if
Frank
goes
on
the
first
one,
my
common
second
and
then
I
can
maybe
pick
up
the
Third.
S
Okay,
I'm
going
to
see
if
I
can
sound
a
little
better
this
time,
okay,
so
on
good
quality
consultation,
one
of
the
key
things
we
would
start
with
would
be
the
the
kind
of
the
legal
Necessities
so
we'd
be
following
the
steadily
criteria
to
make
sure
everything's
legally
as
good
as
it
can
be.
S
So
that's
a
four
point
criteria
about
how
to
consult.
So
it's
about
that
timeliness,
ensuring
that
consultation
is
actually
genuine
so
that
it
it's
not
happening
after
a
decision's
already
been
made,
what
other
kind
of
things
going
there
and
that
it's
accessible
things
like
that,
so
that
gives
us
a
very
good
backbone.
That's
a
legal
backbone
to
how
how
we
should
do
these
things.
S
The
kind
of
support
that
we
can
find
otherwise
is
around
I
think
it
might
mentioned
a
plain
English,
but
also
making
sure
that
the
the
questions
are
fit
for
purpose,
there's
no,
there's
no
bias
in
there
and
that
they're
gonna
they're
going
to
draw
out
the
kind
of
findings
that
people
are
looking
to
to
understand.
S
So
a
lot
of
that
goes
in
there
other
things
that
we
would
help
with
around
methodology,
so
ensuring
that
the
the
the
piece
of
research
or
the
consultation
is.
It
gets
the
right
people
and
it's
not
excluding
people.
So
there's
all
these
those
kind
of
areas
that
we
would
we
would
support
services
to
to
ensure
that
they
they
have
good
consultation
but
I'll
stop
there.
K
Dance
afternoon
just
to
come
in
on
the
the
sort
of
the
second
part
of
what
you
mentioned
in
terms
of
those
two
examples
of
where
we
think
things
have
worked.
Well,
we
touch
on
sort
of
Staff
engagement,
surveys
and
just
so
I
mean
people
may
be
aware,
but
if
not
traditionally,
we've
done
a
a
full
staff.
Satisfaction
survey
every
one
to
two
years,
but
we,
the
team,
did
you
know
to
give
credit
a
brilliant
job
through
the
sort
of
period
of
the
pandemic
and
we've
we
massively
escalated.
K
The
amount
that
we
were
talking
to
staff
recognizing
that
you
know
people
weren't
a
good
proportion
of
our
staff,
weren't
in
physical
workplaces
anymore
and
we're
at
home.
K
So
we,
the
team,
introduced
alongside
HR,
something
that
we
that
you'll
have
seen
I'm
sure
the
well-being
pulse
surveys
I
think
we
delivered
five
of
those
in
total
over
the
pandemic
period
and
they
were
really
aiming
to
be
sort
of
really
quick
to
fill
in
not
demanding
for
for
members
of
Staff
but
quick
snapshots
of
how
people
were
feeling
across
a
range
of
things
about
their
role
at
the
council,
but
also
their
personal
well-being.
K
So
I
think
that
was
just
one
example
of
the
team
being
able
to
very,
very
quickly
sort
of
significantly
scale
up
activity
around
a
priority
area,
and
it's
something
we've
done
in
other
places
too,
but
was
you
know,
was
I
know,
was
really
valuable
for
the
organization
through
the
pandemic.
M
Council
going
perhaps
just
to
finish
off
on
that
one
mentioning
the
budget
consultation
because
you
asked
how
as
well
the
you
know,
the
two
teams
that
we've
named
in
the
report
work
together.
So
on
that
one
very
much
it's
a
Frank
working
with
Finance
colleagues
to
design
that
survey,
and
you
know
how
that's
going
to
get
the
results
that
we
need.
It's
always
in
a
short
time
frame,
as
you
know,
because
it's
always
lands
between
sort
of
December,
exact,
Broad
and
February
fall
Council,
which
allowing
time
to
write
things
up.
M
Obviously
you
know
the
closing
date
is
just
passed
and
then
in
terms
of
comms
you
know.
That's,
then,
about
how
we
use
our
social
media
channels,
member
member
channels,
partner
channels
how
we
try
and
get
through
Community
committees
and
use
the
localities
team
to
make
sure
that
we
can
promote
that
kind
of
stuff
wherever
it's
possible,
so
that
we
get
as
many
responses
as
possible.
So
that's
just
another
bit
of
a
practical
example.
M
You,
you
know
a
concrete
example
about
how
those
two
teams
work
together
and
then
your
last
question
about
the
voice
and
influence
and
the
planning
I.
Don't
know
the
specifics
of
how
successful
that
has
been
I'd
have
to
take
that
away
to
you
know
kind
of
ask
some
questions
and
try
and
understand
that
my
sense
of
the
work
that
the
voice
and
influence
team
do
generally
in
terms
of
getting
young
people's
voices
through
into
the
City
and
into
major
developments,
is
that
it
again
it's
a
finite
capacity.
M
F
Thank
you,
I
mean
what
drove
those
questions
is
really
that
I
think
at
the
heart
of
consultation
is
engaging
with
your
audience
and
you've
said
things
about
reaching
the
right
people
and
using
the
right
methodology
to
reach
the
right
people
Etc,
but
at
the
heart
of
it
it's
it's
actually
motivating
your
audience
to
want
to
interact
with
you,
and
you
would
expect,
with
my
background,
that
I'd
be
very
interested
in
how
the
council
is
doing
that
for
children
and
young
people.
F
G
Thanks,
chair
mine's,
quite
a
straightforward
question
really
and
it's
building
on
what
council
of
flingest
so
paragraph
30,
the
shared
teams
calendar.
G
Quite
often
her
members
are
missed
out
of
that
looping
my
experience
and
that
I
use
the
recent
consultation
about
charging
for
Parks,
which
is
causing
a
huge
amount
of
discussion
and
consternation
well
in
my
world
and
I
assume
within
other
worlds
as
well.
So
I
think
it
would
be
hugely
useful
if
we,
as
members
could
view
that
calendar
so
that
we
would
know
in
advance
what
was
coming
up
and
I
did
help.
M
Would
be
happy
to
take
that
away,
counselor
and
have
a
think
about
when
and
how
we
could
do
that
as
Carl
said
it's
in
its
developmental
stages
at
the
moment
and
I
think
what
we'd
want
to
do
before
you
know
we
enabled
wider
access
to
was
make
sure
it
did
have
the
bulk
of
things
on
it
and
I
think
at
the
moment
it
probably
hasn't.
So
what
we
wouldn't
want
to
do
is
claim
that
we've
got
this
planning
tool
that
then,
actually
it
only
does
give
partial
information,
so
I
mean
the
other
thing.
M
I
would
happily
commit
to
in
the
meantime
and
I
think
we
try
and
do
this
anyway,
but
where
we
do,
the
member
updates
is
always
try
and
let
you
know
what
consultation
is
going
on
and
I'd
be
happy
to
modify
those,
for
example,
to
put
a
special
section.
That
said,
you
know
current
consultations
that
are
live,
at
least
in
the
short
term,
to
allow
us
to
get
the
the
planner
more
up
to
date.
If
that
would
work
for
you,
counselor.
N
Yes,
thank
you
chair.
If
I
can
just
add
to
what
Mariana's
just
responded
to
in
terms
of
the
consultation
and
any
specific
consultation
that
counselor
Burke
mentioned
around
the
parks.
So
there
are
there
are.
There
are
two
two
things
really
to
share
on
that
one.
N
So
the
whole
budget,
consultation
proposals,
consultation,
went
live
in
December
and
any
specific
service
review
that
comes
from
that
will
also
be
under
consultation
in
its
own
right
as
a
service
review.
So
there's
two
layers
to
that
consultation.
N
Obviously
the
whole
breadth
of
the
the
budget
proposals
that
you
had
and
the
the
individual
things
within
it
as
a
as
a
as
a
general
and
then
any
specifics
that
will
now
floss
a
consultation
should
start
on
any
service
reviews
and
including
the
one
that
you
mentioned.
Councilor
Burke.
A
Thank
you
for
those
comments,
councilor
Burke
and
actually
had
highways.
Do
this
one
thing
I
always
do
that's
quite
good.
Is
they
often
send
us
something
if
they're
going
to
do
a
customer
care
on
a
street
or
something
like
that
and
they
send
us
the
letter
they
send
into
residence?
And
it's
that
sort
of
thing
I
think
you
mean,
and
then
we
then
we
know
when
we
get
an
email
from
residents.
Thank
you.
Okay,
I'm
gonna
be
in
Council
Richie.
Next,
thank.
C
You
I
do
appreciate
how
difficult
it
is
to
to
get
people
to
engage
quite
often
it's
a
complicated
process.
So,
for
example,
the
budget
consultation
invited
you
to
click
on
links
to
read
reports,
so
it's
quite
demanding
and
I'm
not
sort
of
being
pontificating
to
the
people
of
leads
for
not
contributing
because,
let's
remember
only
9
out
of
99
members
responded
to
a
simple
highways
question.
Do
you
like
these?
The
format
of
you,
the
reports
that
you
get
only
nine?
C
So
we
can't
you
know
people
in
bus
houses
and
all
that
my
question
is
actually
I'm
interested,
so
no
I,
don't
yeah
I
didn't
do
yeah.
Thank
you,
I
always
do
the
question.
I've
got
is
I'm
Keen
to
know
how
representative
the
responses
are
of
the
city.
You
do
some
equality
screening
at
the
end
of
them,
but
I'm
really
interested
in
postcode
responses.
So
I
have
a
skewed
towards
certain
postcodes.
You
know
the
people
in
my
world
respond
to
consultations,
be
it
the
local
plan.
That's
been
mentioned.
C
The
budget,
the
recent
transport
consultations
and
I
think
that's
the
sort
of
data
that
scrutiny
board
might
be
presented
at
scrutiny
board.
Actually,
and
we
look
at
how
we
can
improve
that
just
on
Facebook
I
think
people
I
know
at
paid
ads
work
differently,
but
things
are
coming
through
on
your
feed.
C
You
might
see
something
and
I'm
not
sure
how
many
people,
if
you
don't
click
on
it,
then
it
might
be
lost
in
in
the
system
and
just
on
a
recent
one,
culture,
2023
I
Facebooked,
the
the
fact
that
there
were
tickets
still
available,
two
issues
with
that
when
I
posted
out
what
a
wonderful
evening
it
was
at
that
free
event.
C
People
were
saying:
I
wish
I'd
known
about
it,
and
there's
been
lots
of
Facebook
from
the
council
from
the
culture
website
from
members
and
so
on.
So
still
people
missing
it.
And
secondly,
yesterday
I
got
a
notification.
Telling
me
me,
post
of
it
in
Bramley
Community
page
was
against
Facebook
rules
on
the,
so
I
always
get
this
stuff
from
last
time.
So.
A
C
So
he
said
it
was
a
violation
of
their
Community
standards
and
all
that
posted
well,
the
link
to
culture,
2023,
saying
tickets
still
available
free
tickets
still
available,
but
I
only
found
that
out
yesterday,
which
is
rather
bizarre
so
that
didn't
get
posted.
So
what
I'm
getting
at
is
there
are
challenges
around
the
use
of
Facebook
and
how
Facebook
works.
But
the
main
question,
as
as
I
opened
up
with,
was
Keen
to
know
how
representative
those
responses
are
and
what
lessons
we
can
learn
or
improve
from
those.
M
Maybe
if
I
start
and
then
hang
to
Frank
I
mean
I
think
often
really
good
consultation
reports
will
include
that
in
them
when
they
get
reported,
so,
for
example,
as
part
of
executive
board
papers-
or
you
know,
delegated
decision
notices
because
they'll
have
been
done.
You
know,
as
we've
said
by
the
service,
and
they
will
pick
up
that
kind
of
you
know,
representative
information,
be
that
around
protected
characteristics
if
we've
been
able
to
capture
it
or
postcode
data.
M
You
know
what
the
overall
position
of
the
representation
was
across
all
of
those
because,
as
Frank
says,
one
of
the
things
we
do
try
and
advise
is
trying
to
make
them
representative.
We
just
need
to
be
careful
about
things
like
statistical
viability
and
you
know
making
sure
that
we
we
don't
kind
of
compromise
anything
by
doing
that,
but
that
I'd
suggest
that
we
do
try
and
look
at
whether
or
not
we
can
do
that
and
on
Facebook.
M
Maybe
we
can
run
a
member
seminar
about
you,
know
the
whys
and
where
Falls
of
Facebook
advertising
from
colleagues
who
do
understand
and
know
that,
because
I
I
wouldn't
profess
to
understand
that
myself.
But
we
can
always.
You
know
there
will
be
colleagues
in
the
comms
team
who
understand
how
those
algorithms
and
things
work
and
what
those
rules
are.
S
And
if
I
can
just
answer
that,
just
a
little
more
detail
around
an
example,
I
suppose
the
the
current
budget
consultation
which
we're
analyzing
at
the
moment,
we
did
get
a
good
response
from
that.
So
we
got
around
1700
responses,
even
though
the
the
subject
is
broadly,
you
know
it's
it's
a
financial
consultation
at
the
end
of
the
day,
so
some
might
be
put
off
because
it's
a
little
dry,
so
we
still
got
really
good
good
level
of
response
there.
S
And
when
we
look
at
how
representative
that
is
of
the
people
of
the
city,
it
comes
in
at
plus
minus
two,
which
is
really
highly
accurate.
That's
really
good!
So
that's
gonna
be
a
really
useful
piece
of
data
going
forward.
S
We
do
have
the
we
asked
people
there
for
their
their
the
first
half
of
their
postcode,
we're
often
reluctant
to
ask
for
full
postcode
because
it
it
creates
more
difficulties
with
gdpr,
because,
especially
if
we
want
to
ask
around
protective
characteristics
before
you
know
it
you've
kind
of
you've.
You
really
know
exactly
who
someone
is
and
where
they
live.
So
it's
it
does
cause
some
problems,
but
we've
got
the
first
part
of
the
postcode
and
it's
it's
something.
Take
back.
S
They'll
certainly
do
some
analysis
by
that
in
in
that
report
and
going
forward
where
we
have,
because
it,
if
that's
still
useful,
to
know
if
something's,
like
LS6
or
ls8
or
wherever.
If
that
gives
you
a
little
bit
of
a
ballpark
of
whether
it
you
know
whether
it's
in
your
ward,
then
that's
still
helpful,
I
suppose.
A
H
Thanks
it
probably
Builds
on
what
we
had
then
as
well,
because
one
of
the
things
I'm
interested
in
is
that
balance
between
online
consultations
and
the
kind
of
more
focused
group
here
in
people's
voices,
because
online
consultations
are
really
powerful
ways
of
getting
to
a
lot
of
people
very
easily
and
quickly.
H
But
it
often
captures
those
most
engaged
voices
and
it
may
only
get
to
those
who
are
able
to
access
it
or
who
happen
to
see
it
on
their
on
their
feeds.
As
noted,
the
data
also
does
need
verifying
afterwards
check.
It
is
representative
and
somebody's
not
filled
the
same
thing
in
eight
times,
they're
going
to
change
it
or
whatever,
but
I'm
thinking
of
I
mean
there's
an
example.
I
saw
in
highways
and
transport
where
there
was
a
commonplace
consultation,
and
then
it
was
backed
up
with
the
doorstep
consultation.
H
It
was
a
very
localized
example
which
made
it
easier,
but
actually,
when
you
looked
at
the
difference
between
those,
it
was
a
very.
It
was
a
subtly
different
outcome,
but
one
which
could
have
affected
the
decision
made
in
in
that
regard,
because
the
fee
feedback
from
the
doorstep
is
is
a
more
wider
Gathering
of
the
of
the
community.
There,
you
could
say
it's
everyone
in
it
in
a
sense,
because
we've
at
least
tried
to
contact
everyone,
and
you
get
that
more
useful
feedback
from
the
discussion.
H
It's
sometimes
hard
to
get
those
complexities
of
a
decision
across
in
an
online
consultation.
I
guess
you
mentioned
the
citizens
panel
in
the
report,
so
I
just
wanted
to
hear
a
bit
more
about
that
and
how
we
balance
it.
H
But
it's
things
like
if
I
think
back
to
the
big
Leeds
climate
conversation
we
have
that
which
was
a
really
big
set
of
data
and
information
from
people,
but
I
was
bouncing
my
head,
then,
against
the
views
of
the
climate
jury
we
had
alongside
it,
which
were
people
that
had
a
real
good
amount
of
time
to
get
into
the
issues
and
came
up
with
some
really
useful
solutions
that
they
wanted
to
see.
So
how
do
we
balance
those
two?
H
Because
I
think
there
is
a
very
different
outcome
that
you
may
get
from
from
different
ones
and
I
guess
it
adds
to
councilor
Richie's
Point
around
then
how
representative
it
is.
I
mean
there
are
some
highways
consultations
where
you
get
quite
often
more
men
than
women
filling
in
the
the
response.
Just
because
of
where
it
is,
is
how
people
have
seen
it
when
they've
been
going
out,
but
actually,
as
we
know
as
a
city,
we've
got
more
women
than
men
in
the
city.
So
it's
making
sure
that
view
is
captured.
S
Yep
the
need
for
that
balance
of
what
we
call
both
quantitative,
so
those
kind
of
online
survey
methods
and
things
like
that
and
and
more
qualitative
like
focus
groups,
things
like
that
is
it's
something
we're
very
aware
of
it's
it's
it's
an
area
which
became
a
particular
issue
during
the
pandemic,
because
everything
became
more
and
more
pushed
online
and
there
were
less
and
less
of
these
more
certainly
face-to-face
kind
of
sessions.
And
it's
it's
something
where
we're
encouraging.
S
Currently
the
ways
we
support
it
within
our
little
team
is
we've.
We've
got
this
resource
of
information
for
staff
and
there's
there's
some
really
good
stuff
in
there
about
how
to
carry
out
these
focus
groups,
and
we
we
do
Provide
support
in
that
and
we've
we've
carried
out
focus
groups
ourselves
in
the
past,
not
so
much
recently,
but
we
have
carried
them
out,
they're,
unfortunately,
quite
resource.
S
They
take
quite
a
lot
of
resource
to
to
carry
out
so
it's
it's
it
it's
harder
to
do
them
with
a
small
team,
but
it's
certainly
something
which
can
support
other
officers
to
do,
and
we
do
very
much
you
know
we
see
the
need
for
that
and
and
that
it
it
can
really
provide
a
bit
of
meat
on
the
bones
of
what's
otherwise.
S
Maybe
just
severe
bones
of
the
learning
that
that
that
that
that
that
broad
discussion
can
provide
a
lot
more
more
information,
so
yeah,
we
do
recognize
that
I
mean
going
forward.
We've
already
mentioned
we're
going
to
be
looking
at.
Let's
talk
sessions
going
forward
and
I
think
that
would
be
another
one
that
maybe
maybe
it
would
be
within
that
session
or
potentially
a
further
session,
just
purely
on
that
to
support
Services
across
the
council.
We're
delivering
that.
K
Just
doesn't
yeah
thanks
for
that
I
mean
what
I
would
say
is
on.
Certainly
on
a
lot
of
the
bigger
consultations
that
take
place.
There
really
seen
a
really
large
sort
of
significant
ones.
I
think
we
do
probably
quite
well
on
getting
that
mixed
model,
and
certainly
you
mentioned
some
of
the
transport
stuff
recently,
if
I
think
back
to
the
best
city
ambition
consultation.
K
Last
year
we
did
with
the
vast
majority
of
that
was
done,
face
to
face
and
in
a
more
qualitative
style
and
then
the
regular
work
that
we
do
with
housing
leads
on
sort
of
tenant.
Engagement,
satisfaction
takes
a
very
mixed
model
as
well,
and
what
you
say
is
quite
Frank,
there's
more
detail
than
I.
Do
not
I
think
Vanessa
needs
to
go
into
it,
but
the
online
results
certainly
delivers.
Yeah
slightly
looks
slightly
different
to
the
stuff.
K
Would
over
the
telephone,
for
example,
where
you're
having
a
a
more
sort
of
connected
conversation,
I
suppose
with
an
individual,
so
I
think
we
do
easily
well.
One
of
you
mentioned
the
citizens
panel
and
we've
done
a
refresh
to
the
citizens
panel
recently
and
to
try
to
make
sure
that
the
membership
we
have
on
that
is
active
and
where
we
can
to
make
that
more
representative
of
the
city.
K
So
as
we
continue
with
that
sort
of
refresh
and
relaunch
work,
I
think
we'll
be
looking
to
remind
colleagues
that
the
citizens
panel
is
there
and
available
as
a
engaged
pool
of
people
who
can
be
can
be.
You
know,
work
with
to
design
focus,
groups
and
things
and
then
working
with
people
like
voice
and
influencing
children's
as
well.
K
I
know
we
do
quite
a
lot
with
them
and
through
the
the
the
name's,
completely
gone,
the
sort
of
use,
Parliament,
reps
and,
and
there
there's
a
council
that
I
forget
the
name
of,
but
with
young
people
and
try
to
work
with
them
as
well.
So
I
think
you're
right,
there's
always
more
to
do
and
now
we're
emerging
from
that
sort
of
pandemic
period.
I
think
we
have
some
of
the
tools
available
to
us
to
remind
colleagues
about
rootstick
and
go
through
to
to
get
that
balance
of
consultation
when
they're
doing
it.
A
Super
thank
you
very
much
for
those
questions
and
comments,
just
as
a
just
like
to
thank
you
for
this
report
and
I
really
welcome
the
idea
of
an
annual
report
as
well
the
you.
The
next
steps
are
really
useful,
so
paragraph
30.
A
Just
as
I
close
out
and
just
want
to
just
comment
on
paragraph
32
and
and
then
backdrop
of
the
limited
resources
and
I
think
it's
probably
worth
just
going
back
and
considering
the
I
guess
the
financial
and
reputational
possible
cost
of
getting
Communications
wrong
based
to
the
contact
center
and
to
to
the
council
as
a
whole,
and
so
just
whether
the
there
is
enough
finance
and
enough
power
within
the
comms
team
to
make
sure
our
Communications
are
spot
on.
A
They
do
say
what
we
want
them
to
say
are
in
sort
of
really
plain
English,
so
just
so
I'd
and
I
feel
like
there's
some
sort
of
an
underlying
theme
in
a
lot
of
the
questions.
So
thank
you
very
much
for
coming
and
I'm
sure
you'll
come
back
in
a
not
too
distant
future.
Okay,
okay!
So
now
we're
going
to
move
on
to
the
next
item,
which
is
the
best
city,
ambition,
update
and
Mike.
A
K
Thanks
chair,
yes,
well,
this
is
quite
a
broad
paper,
as
you'll
have
picked
up
when
looking
through
it
so
not
intending
to
dig
too
much
into
any
of
the
details
about
to
give
a
very
brief
overview
of
what
it
covers
and
then
happy
to
take
any
questions.
K
So
so
members
will
remember
that
the
council,
full
Council,
adopted
the
best
city
ambition
and
last
February
and
agreed
at
that
point
that
the
current
2022-23
year
we
would
treat
as
a
transitional
year
where
we
moved
from
the
previous
Arrangements
on
the
best
council
plan
to
the
new
ones
for
the
best
city
ambition,
and
what
this
report
covers
really
is
a
relatively
high
level
overview
of
that
transition.
Work
that
that's
been
going
on.
K
One
of
the
key
items
that's
in
there
and
you'll
see
in
the
appendix
is
the
move
to
a
new
set
of
key
performance
indicators
and
the
introduction
separate
to
this
of
the
the
lead
social
Progress
Index
as
well.
So
I
won't
touch
too
much
on
performance,
because
I
appreciate
we'll
probably
come
on
to
that
in
the
discussion.
K
But
what
we've
also
done
is,
is
you
know,
look
at
the
council's
overall
strategic
planning
framework
and
and
try
to
refresh
that
and
bring
that
into
line
with
the
best
city
ambition,
wherever
possible,
two
sort
of
big
factors
there
that
have
affected
the
decision
not
to
refresh
the
best
city
ambition
now,
as
as
we
might
normally
have
done,
and
instead
to
look
to
do
that
later
on
this
year,
and
that's
the
new
or
the
refresh
inclusive
growth
strategy
and
health
and
well-being
strategy
which
are
in
train
at
the
moment
and
I
think
I'm
right
and
saying
by
sort
of
the
spring
summer,
and
we
will
have
both
of
those.
K
So
we
figured
it
makes
a
bit
more
sense
to
just
pause
on
refreshing
the
ambition
and
wait
for
that
work
to
be
concluded.
But
we've
also
looked
at
the
the
other
range
of
strategies
and
you'll
appreciate.
The
council
has
a
lot
of
strategies
currently
and
I.
Think
it's
broadly
agreed.
There
is
scope
to
try
to
reduce
the
number
and
bring
them
together
where
it
makes
sense
to
do
so
so
through
the
piece
of
work
that
we've
done
and
he's
noted
in
the
report.
K
We're
really
aiming
to
do
that
and
I've
picked
out
a
small
number
of
key
strategies
around
which
we're
encouraging
colleagues
on
the
broader
Council
to
sort
of
coalesce
and
to
reflect
our
vision
and
Ambitions
in
those
things
where
possible
and
outside
of
that
to
focus
more
on
action
plans
and
delivery,
rather
than
creating
additional
strategy
documents.
K
The
initial
five
and
the
appendix
2
includes
an
update
on
on
each
of
those,
and
then
we're
also
still
actively
thinking
about
something
that
I
know
came
out
very
strongly
when
we
did
the
bestie
ambition,
engagement
with
Community
committees,
which
is
about
how
to
make
this
meaningful
at
a
community
level
and
in
the
recent
most
recent
LGA
peer
review
towards
the
back
end
of
last
year.
The
overall
message
around
the
best
city
ambition
was
was
really
encouraging
in
terms
of
the
ownership.
K
That
is
already
felt
of
this,
both
within
the
council
and
the
city,
but
something
that
also
came
out
there
was
about
the
work
going
on
at
a
community
level
and
making
that
connection
between
the
two.
So
it
was
certainly
already
on
the
agenda
and
I
know.
Communities
directorate
colleagues
are
actively
looking
at
things
like
local
area
plans,
which
I
think
they're
talking
to
community
committees
about,
but
on
the
back
of
the
peer
review
as
well,
we've
got
a
additional
oven,
I
suppose
to
to
get
on
with
that
work
and
make
that
really
meaningful.
K
The
paper
also
touches
on
how
the
best
ambition
is
fed
into
our
cons
activity,
some
of
which
we've
we've
just
spoken
about,
so
I
won't
go
into
too
much
detail.
I
think
I'll
I'll
pause
their
chair,
but
obviously
happy
to
go
into
any
of
the
members
are
interested
in.
A
O
Thanks
Andrew,
a
couple
of
these
things
will
link
into
the
the
previous
subject
as
well
Mike,
but
I
think
the
answer
is
probably
a
more
appropriate
to
to
kneel
on
procurement.
O
Looks
like
our
purchaser
from
local
employers
at
local
suppliers
is
heading
up
towards
sort
of
50
or
so,
which
I
absolutely
agree
with,
but
I
just
wonder
what
the
are
there
any
sort
of
adverse
effects
in
terms
I
hate
the
expression?
What
value
for
money
you
know?
Are
we
getting
the
same
sort
of
value
for
money
as
we
would
have
done
if
we'd
have
gone,
you
know
sort
of
wiser
than
our
local
suppliers.
O
The
complaints
responded
to
within
timelines
appear
to
be
it's.
It's
certainly
in
some
directors,
absolutely
abysmal
and
I.
I
know
that
there's
a
task
and
finish
group
looking
at
children,
families
at
the
moment,
I
know
that
one
originally
looked
at
adults
and
health
and
I.
O
Just
wonder
if
there's
a
case
for
the
other
director,
it's
having
a
a
similar
examination
in
some
sort
of
depth
and,
lastly,
I
don't
see
any
data
at
all
on
Freedom
of
Information
requests,
which,
given
the
work
that
you're
doing
Mike,
seems
they're
rather
peculiar.
L
Yes,
okay,
take
those
turns
so
on
on
procurement.
We
obviously
promote
the
work
with
local
smes,
but
actually
in
terms
of
final
evaluation.
L
Actually
it,
the
local
connection
is
a
bit
of
a
tiebreaker,
so
you
would.
You
would
still
need
to
demonstrate
that
you
were
the
best
value
for
money,
so
we
aren't
seeing
any
compromise
on
value
for
money.
L
We
we
should
take
it
into
account
in
terms
of
judging
people,
whether
they're
close
together,
rather
than
it's
actually
being
something
which
will
lead
to
value
for
money
for
the
authority
in
terms
of
the
complaints
performance.
Clearly
in
a
number
of
areas.
That
is
a
concern.
L
Unfortunately,
it
is
a
bit
of
a
vicious
circle
at
times
where
actually,
a
team
will
be
overwhelmed
with
work
and
therefore
you
get
more
complaints
and
then
the
same
people
are
responding
to
it
and
and
an
area
which
you've
picked
up
on
there's
been
a
very
large
increase
in
the
numbers
of
families
who
actually
are
requesting
educational
statements
around
around
support.
That's
really
gone
through
the
roof.
Obviously,
then,
then
staff
are
doing
those,
and
then
there
are
complaints
about
the
the
time
around
those
things.
L
L
It
is
actually
to
get
to
the
root
of
the
issue
in
the
first
place
and
and
to
actually
try
and
see
if
we
can
dry
it
up
a
source
rather
than
right,
let's
say
rather
than
trying
to
deal
with
the
the
symptom
of
it
and
then
lastly,
otherwise
I
I
thought
there
was
a
statement
in
there
actually
so
page
45,
yes,
okay
and
they
they
have
gone
really
in
the
right
direction.
There
I
think
we've
we've
got
some
improvement
to
processes
there
which,
which
are
which
are
helping.
P
Thank
you
well.
Thank
you,
Chet!
Well,
actually
funny.
If
I
wanted
to
cover
those
particular
two
areas,
because
I
thought
it
would
be
quite
helpful
to
go
back
to
last
year's
results
and
actually
look
back
at
back
to
2020
as
well.
To
compare
I
just
want
to
ask
one
particular
question
to
start
off
with
which
is
still
a
healthy
Workforce
back
in
June
2021,
we
had
a
just
within
the
council
an
average
days
per
full-time
equivalent
of
9.8
and
obviously
now
that's
increased
to
14.68.
P
If
you
include
schools,
you
go
from
11.37
in
June,
2021
to
September
22
of
13.32,
obviously,
given
the
circumstances
and
obviously
the
continue
effects
of
the
pandemic
more
generally
and
workloads,
is
there
anything
in
particular
that
we
can
add
to
add
some
rationale
to
why
that's
increasing
or
even
more,
the
council's
actually
doing,
given
the
significant
well-being
offer
that
we
do
ensure
we
promote
to
staff?
Thank
you.
L
Yeah,
so
there
are
two
things
going
on
there
so
clearly,
there
has
been
an
impact
of
covet
itself
in
terms
of
numbers
of
days
lost
and
what
you
see?
Actually,
if
you
get
into
more
of
the
fine
detail
of
it
actually
is
that
there's
been
very
little,
increases
pretty
much
steady
on
the
position
of
Staff
who
are
working
in
offices
and
who
also
have
the
opportunity
to
work
from
home
and
what
you've
seen
is
quite
a
large
increase
in
the
number
of
front
line,
absence
and
I.
L
Think
there's
probably
a
couple
of
things.
A
couple
of
things
running
behind
that
most
of
us
probably
have
had
covered
at
some
time.
I
had
it
during
the
summer
and
I
was
able
to
work
from
home
and
work
through
it
and
it's
not
recorded
in
any
absence
details,
because
because
it
wasn't
that
had
I
been
a
refuse
worker,
I
I,
neither
would
have
been
fit
enough
to
have
completed
the
round.
Nor
would
it
would
have
been
responsible
to
sat
in
a
cab
with
other
people
doing
that
work.
L
L
Secondly,
though
there
has
been
an
issue-
and
there
was
an
issue-
went
through
the
peak
of
covid,
where
we
weren't
doing
face-to-face
meetings
with
a
staff
who
had
long-term
absence,
there
was
actually
a
trade
Union
would
work
agreement
with
the
Trade
union
to
suspend
some
of
that
that
work
and
unfortunately,
then
when,
if
somebody
is
off
absent
for
some
time,
it's
actually
then
quite
difficult
to
actually
return
them
to
the
workplace.
L
Unless
you
deal
with
that
issue
quite
quickly
and
I,
think
some
of
that
that
discipline
of
the
way
that
we
manage
their
their
absence
did
fall
away
somewhat
through
that
through
that
pandemic
period.
And
what
we're
seeing
now
is
really
quite
determined
effort
to
re-establish
that,
so
that
actually
be
people
are
being
contacted
re-engaged
and
what
we
begin
to
see
actually
over
this
last
number
of
months
is
quite
a
significant
reduction
in
the
number
of
long-term
absent
people
which
actually
contributes
quite
significantly
to
the
high
level
of
absence
that
you're.
L
Seeing
in
that
statistic,
so
you're,
seeing
also
that
we've,
you
know,
we've
actually
put
some
commitments
into
the
into
budget
for
next
year
to
actually
see
that
absence
come
come
down,
and
obviously
this
this
board
wants
to
track
that
we're
successful
in
in
doing
that.
But
hopefully
that's
an
explanation
of
where
we
why
we
got
into
position
which
we
have,
but
also
some
I,
think
indication
that
we
can
now
turn
that
around.
P
Thank
you,
Neil,
no
I
think
the
the
Staggering
point
was
the
fact
that,
between
the
12
months,
up
to
June
2021
to
then
the
12
months
up
to
September
2022,
the
average
FTE
off
went
up
by
4.9
days
and
I
appreciate
that,
at
the
same
time,
that
the
figures
don't
always
show
what's
happening
on
the
ground.
P
But
at
the
same
time
that's
still
quite
an
interesting
figure,
and
the
reason
I
also
add
is
the
fact
that,
back
when
we
last
reviewed
this
back
in
in
January
last
year,
we
also
had
further
details
on
the
breakdown
whereby
36
from
the
12
months
up
to
June,
were
due
to
mental
health,
for
example.
Would
hope
that
in
the
future
that
can
be
provided
in
the
reports,
if
possible,
to
make
sure
that
we
can
analyze
in
more
depth.
But
I
appreciate
you
giving
that
further
detail
there.
P
We
roughly
had
the
same
amount
of
in
terms
of
cash
being
spent
with
local
suppliers,
but
is
there
any
particular
incidents
or
potential
of
factors
that
you
think
they're
at
Play,
Why,
potentially
are
percentage
base,
has
not
increased
with
local
suppliers
over
that
yearly
period?
Sorry,
it
has
gone
down
by
five
percent.
Thank
you.
L
A
E
Thank
you
chair
in
terms
of
low
carbon
emission
and
a
zero
carbon
targets.
I
know
we
can
only
go
so
much
into
the
details
of
it.
It's
simply
a
request
to
have
more
information
in
terms
of
in
terms
of
breakdown
further
word
ways
if
possible.
E
So
if
you
could
pass
on
my
request
in
terms
of
having
that
detailed
information,
so,
for
example,
you
know
the
EPC
standards
see
or
below
we're
still
very
low
I
know:
we've
come
a
long
way
in
terms
of
in
terms
of
you
know,
meeting
targets
and
so
on
and
there's
some
years
left
as
well
to
make
some
rapid
progress
and
whatever
but
I'd,
be
really
interested
in
terms
of
getting
that
kind
of
information
and
breakdown.
E
Would
it
be
the
health
and
we
well-being
board
or
where
to
request
that
information
in
terms
of
breakdown
Ward
wise,
just
to
look
at,
for
example,
some
of
the
deprived
in
the
city
wards
as
to
how,
if
you
like
carbon
deficient,
they
are
and
what
support,
especially
in
terms
of
social
housing,
is
being
provided
because
I
know
in
places
like
holbeck
and
so
on.
E
There's
a
lot
of
good
work
going
on
in
priority
neighborhoods
and
so
on,
but
I'd
be
very
interested
to
find
out
what
what
really
is
the
kind
of
breakdown
and
mix
in
terms
of
social
housing,
the
private,
privately
owned
and
rented
properties
just
to
compare
apples
with
apples,
but
in
terms
of
looking
at
other
cities,
we're
still
quite
you
know,
under
the
under
the
Target
in
terms
of
comparisons.
Thank
you.
L
Yeah
I'll
have
work
with
the
the
sustainable
energy
team.
Obviously
the
we've
got
the
climate
emergency
scrutiny
worked
going
through
and
maybe
they
they
can
have
a
look
at
it.
It
might
be
useful,
I
think,
maybe
to
distinguish
between
those
things
which
are
directly
under
the
control
of
the
council,
where
we
clearly
have
seen
very
significant
reductions
on
in
our
own
use
of
gas.
Within
our
own
buildings,
we
were
seeing
very
significant
Investments
within
the
multi-story
stock
that
the
council
owns.
L
Which
is
Shifting
those
towards
District
Heating
and
to
ground
Source
heat
pumps
as
against,
what's
happening
in
the
private
rented
sector
and
the
owner
occupied
sector,
where
there
has
been
less
clearly
less
progress.
So
maybe
we
could
distinguish
between
that
those
things
which
are
directly
under
our
control,
if
you
like,
and
those
things
which
we
we
seek
to
influence.
E
I
mean:
how
can
we
support
in
terms
of
an
office
support
increasing
our
influence
in
terms
of
other,
for
example,
private
day
rented
and
owned
properties,
as
well
as
a
city?
How
can
we
offer
that
support
probably
would
be
the
best
way
of
looking
at
a
situation
like
that.
L
L
The
rest
of
it
in
a
way
is
probably
more
about
a
Lobby
around
government
kind
of
positions
on
the
licensing
of
private
rented
and
also
what
incentives
might
may
be
put
in
place
to
actually
incentivize
owner
occupiers
to
actually
invest
in
their
properties.
We
are
doing
some
interesting
work
on
the
latter
by
the
way,
with
the
number
of
of
companies
and
government.
Looking
at
some
pilot
work
around
that
that
opportunity.
F
Council
house
looked
up
one
of
my
points,
which
was
the
sickness
absence,
so
I
I
won't
raise
that
again,
but
the
other
thing
that
caught
my
eye
was
the
council
tax
collection
rates,
which
are
on
page
44.,
a
huge
difference
between
our
Target
and
what
we've
actually
achieved,
and
there
is
a
reason
given
below
that.
But
I
just
wondered
if
you
wanted
to
comment
further
in
terms
of
how
quickly
we're
likely
to
catch
up.
F
A
T
You
thank
you
I'm
Victoria
Bradshaw
I'm,
the
Chief
Financial
Officer
for
the
council
and
I'm
responsible
for
the
revenues
team
who
collect
the
council
tax
and
business
rates,
and
when
this
report
was
produced,
we
were
behind
on
the
collection
of
the
council
tax
and
we
are
still
slightly
behind
where
we
were
this
time.
T
Last
year,
however,
the
teams
have
been
busy
making
payments,
they
were
doing
the
Energy
payments
Etc
and
therefore
the
focus
was
on
that,
rather
than
on
the
collection,
even
though
there
were
collecting
what
they
could
within
the
resources
we
had
available.
Also,
the
courts
have
not
gone
back
to
pre-covered
levels,
so
we're
not
seeing
the
summons
as
as
well
as
we
were
doing
previously.
T
Now
that
is
changing,
and
so
we've
seen
the
number
of
summons
that
are
going
through
the
course
increasing,
so
that
the
frequency
of
those
taking
place
is
also
increasing.
So
I
am
expecting
those
collection
rates
to
come
up
in
the
fullness
of
time
and
we'll
get
back
to
a
position
where
we
were
pre-covered.
However,
obviously
the
cost
of
living
now
we're
starting
to
feel
that,
but
the
team
are
actively
pursuing
them.
So,
as
I've
said
it
over
the
time,
I
am
expecting
it
to
come
back
so
to
where
we
were
okay,.
F
T
And
we
have
left
the
collection
rates
where
they
were
for
next
financial
year,
23
24.
experiment
where
we
were,
but
obviously
we're,
monitoring
the
position
very
closely.
Thank
you.
Super.
C
C
There
are
obviously
some
some
great
risks
among
not
meeting
the
targets
and
so
on,
and
one
I
also
want
to
focus
on
what
the
complaints
rate
really
so
am
I
correct
in
saying
the
risk
is,
if
we
don't
do
an
in
time
stage,
one
stage
two
complaint
that
they
can
then
go
to
the
Ombudsman
after
so
long
or
am
I
wrong
about
that,
because
they're
the
sort
of
risks
that
I
see
yeah.
M
Yeah
I
think
in
the
first
comment,
perhaps
to
make
in
terms
of
the
risk
I
mean.
Obviously
what
we've
put
in
that
sentence
there
it's.
This
is
a
it's
a
you
know,
monitoring
report
and
obviously
we
bring
the
annual
risk
report
and
do
risk
reporting
kind
of
separate,
but
there's
a
real,
strong
feed
in
so
you're
absolutely
right.
A
lot
of
these.
The
risks
that
we
would
pick
up
on
these
performance
issues
would
feed
into
the
the
risk
report.
M
We
just
haven't
Incorporated
that
here
in
terms
of
the
risk
on
pump
complaints,
Neil
mentioned
some
of
this
before
we
are
bringing
this
report
for
a
conversation
with
the
directors
on
the
31st
of
July
of
January.
Sorry,
recognizing
that
you
know
there
are
some
challenges
at
the
moment
and
just
making
sure
that
right
across
the
piece
that
we
you
know,
we've
got
a
grip
on
that
in
terms
of
your
question
about
going
to
the
Ombudsman,
it's
a
customer
choice
about
going
to
the
Ombudsman
rather
than
automatically.
M
If
we
don't
do
stage
one
and
stage
two
in
time
that
they
would
automatically
go.
Although
clearly
you
know
the
more
disaster
more
dissatisfied,
a
customer
I
guess,
the
more
likely
we
are
to
have
an
ombudsman
complaint,
which
you
know
like
Neil
said
before
you
know
it
is
in
our
interest
to
try
and
knit
these
in
the
board,
because
if
we
do
get
more
Ombudsman
complaints,
it
actually
takes
even
more
work
to
respond
to
those,
and
it
means
we've
perhaps
not
met
people's
requirements.
But
it's
a
complex
one.
C
M
And
as
I
say
it
to
be
a
real,
a
customer,
engagement
with
the
Ombudsman
do
have
to
have
exhausted
all
internal
routes
which,
which
is
we
know,
are
slightly
different
for
adults
and
children's
to
the
rest
of
the
council.
Giving
the
different
statutory
bases-
and
you
write-
an
ombudsman,
wouldn't
entertain
one
of
those.
Until
you
know
those
routes
were
exhausted,
and
we
obviously
continue
to
report
Ombudsman
cases
through
to
exec
board
when,
when
we
get
them.
M
G
Thanks
chair
I
do
appreciate
that
the
report
says
it'll
be
coming
back
to
scrutiny
in
June
23,
so
I'm,
maybe
preempting
something.
That's
already
decided
I'm,
particularly
interested
in
the
Breakthrough
priorities,
so
they
are
listed.
They
are
detailed,
ish
and
I
wonder
if,
when
it
comes
back
or
perhaps
we
could
have
a
member's
update
for
a
board
update
and
particularly
interested
in
promoting
mental
health
in
the
community
and
the
better
homes
for
well-being,
in
fact,
all
five
of
them
and
just
like
some
more
detail.
K
Yeah
thanks
councilor,
as
I
said,
there
is
an
appendix
in
there,
where
we've
given
sort
of
snapshot,
information
happy
to
come
back
if
the
board
wishes
to
receive
sort
of
more
detailed
accounts
of
of
the
work
going
on
going
and
doing
those
under
each
of
those
projects
happy
to
to
bring
that
back,
I'd
need
to
go
and
wait
and
talk
to
the
to
the
project
leads,
but
certainly
what
we've
included
in
the
paper
here
attempts
to
give
at
least
a
an
overview
of
the
work.
G
Yeah.
Thank
you.
It's
obviously
we're
keen
to
promote
this
work
within
all
our
worlds.
I'm
sure
I
speak
for
all
my
colleagues,
so
the
more
information
and
I
do
have
a
particular
interest
in
mental
health.
So
obviously
that's
for
the
chair
to
decide
but
Andrew.
If
we
could
have
some
more
detail,
that'd
be
great.
Thank
you.
Yes,.
A
I
certainly
asked
Rob
to
take
that
up
and
work
with
Mike
on
it.
Obviously
the
June
board
hasn't
been
decided
on
who's
who's
going
to
be
on
it
because
there's
an
election
in
between
now
and
then,
but
we
can
certainly
pass
it
on.
Even
even
if
we're
not
on
the
board,
then
okay
I'm,
going
to
bring
in
councilor
Chapman.
Q
Thank
you.
Just
two
quick
ones
on
the
procurement
and
supporting
local
businesses
is
the
target
for
percentage
of
orders
place
with
the
local
suppliers,
volume
or
value
of
contracts,
or
is
that
included
in?
Is
it?
Is
it
just
increments
in
the
whole
lot
and
on
doing
business
fairly?
The
30
days
that
we
pay
within
receipt
is
that
30
working
days
or
30
days?
J
All
right,
thanks
in
terms
of
the
for
30
days,
I'd,
need
to
check
that
with
the
procurement
service
and
I'm
quite
happy
to
provide
response
on
that.
It's
similar
with
the
target
as
well
so
I'm
quite
happy
to
to
do
that
and
come
back
to
you
on
that.
A
Super
thank
you
very
much.
Just
from
me,
I
know
you've
consulted
on
us
before
about
what
should
be
in
the
kpis,
but
in
the
paper
this
time
I
didn't
see
anything
on
sort
of
the
social
value,
kpi
and
I
know
that's
something.
We've
been
working
quite
hard
on
in
procurement
and
then
the
other
aspect
I'd
quite
like
to
see
in
terms
of
our
suppliers,
is
those
who
pay
tax.
Are
they
paying
tax
fairly
I?
A
Don't
know
if
there's
a
way
we
can
find
a
way
to
make
sure
and
and
for
me
it
links
very
much
to
social
value
and
being
responsible
business.
So
just
maybe
that's
a
comment
to
take
away
going
forwards.
Okay,
so
I
can't
see
anyone
else
indicating
so
I'm
going
to
close
this
item.
Thank
you
very
much
for
coming.
I,
think
that
was
really
helpful
reports
and
really
useful
kpis,
which
we
can
keep
working
on
as
you
develop
this
piece
of
work.
A
Okay.
On
to
the
next
item,
which
is
Page
59
of
the
pack,
let
me
just
get
the
effects
right.
A
Okay,
so
this
is
Financial
Health
monitoring,
so
I
think
Victoria's
here
to
speak
about
that.
As
always,
you
can
assume
we've
read
the
paper,
but
if
there's
anything
in
particular,
you
want
to
do
out.
Please
do.
T
So
this
is
the
position
at
mod
7
October
and
we're
forecasting
an
overspend
of
15.4
million
at
that
time
and
the
main
areas
of
the
overspend,
children's
and
families
we've
got
an
overspending
resources
and
then
a
slide
under
spending
strategic
and
the
savings
plans
in
the
majority
are
on
target
to
be
achieved,
and
that
was
16.5
million
of
saving
plans
that
were
assumed
in
the
2223
budget
and
there
is
a
shortfall
on
the
passenger
transport
saving
because
we
are
seeing
the
numbers
increasing
that
coming
through
requiring
transport
and
and
also
the
procurement
saving
of
2
million,
and
we
have
seen
a
reduction
in
in
the
non
essential
spend
at
month,
seven
and
that's
7.5
lower
than
the
same
period
in
21
22,
and
that's
due
to
the
actions
that
we've
put
in
place
around
freezing
non-essential
spend
the
HRA
at
the
moment
is
projecting
a
balanced
position
and,
as
was
highlighted
in
the
previous
item,
the
council
tax
and
business
rates
are
below
collection
rates
for
previous
years.
T
However,
we
are
working
hard
to
to
resolve
that
I
think
those
are
the
main
the
main
points
chair.
Thank
you.
Super.
F
A
really
general
question
from
me
in
all
the
briefings
that
we've
had
on
the
savings
plans.
For
example,
it's
been
the
directorate
presenting
on
its
own
budget
gaps
and
its
own
spending
proposals
is,
has
any
thought
been
given
to
to
not
just
containing
it
each
within
each
director,
but
actually
working
cross-directorate?
So
some
directorate
saved
more
to
the
advantage
of
perhaps
more
sensitive
services,
and
because
that
hasn't
come
across
in
the
briefings
that
we've
had
yeah.
T
Thank
you
chair
what
we
do
through
the
summer
is
we
work?
Well,
we
work
through
all
through
the
year.
It's
focused
through
the
summer
on
the
savings
proposals
required
for
the
next
financial
year
and
we
have
a
weekly
meeting
with
that's
called
the
best
Council
Financial
challenge
Group,
which
has
representatives
from
each
of
the
directorates
on,
and
we
work
as
a
as
a
team
looking
at
where
the
pressures
are,
how
we
can
make
those
savings,
and
then
those
are
presented
to
Executive
Board
in
September.
T
Well,
this
year,
October
and
December,
and
but
we
do
do
a
number
of
cross
Council
initiatives.
So
the
procurement
saving,
for
example,
and
there's
a
lot
of
the
Innovation
from
the
it
IDs
work
that
we're
undertaking,
and
so
there
is
a
lot
of
cross
work
as
well
happening.
But
we
work
as
a
team
across
all
directors,
but.
F
That's
that's
where
we're
doing
a
whole
Council
Initiative,
for
example,
called
the
I.T
developments
that
you've
just
referred
to.
I
was
just
meaning.
Would
it
ever
be
appropriate
to
take
more
out
of
one
direct
trip
because
it's
harder
to
make
Savings
in
another
I
appreciate
the
whole
Council
initiatives,
but
I'm
actually
saying?
Would
you
actually
consider
one
directorate
compensating
for
another.
T
What
we
tend
to
do
is
we
have
a
discussion
at
the
beginning
of
the
year
around
how
we're
going
to
mitigate
the
budget,
Gap
that's
being
identified
and
we
look
at
the
pressures
from
the
different
directorates.
And
then
we
work
together
on
how
we're
going
to
manage
that
across
and
naturally,
some
Services
identify
more
savings
and
some
savings
where
this
demand
and
social
care
potentially
less.
L
I
was
just
going
to
say:
I
mean
in
terms
of
historical
Trends,
I
mean
what
you're
seeing
is
actually
there's
been
a
general
shift
over
the
years
towards
social
care
departments
towards
adult
social
care
and
children
and
social
care
as
those
sort
of
statutory
responsibilities
of
press
on
all
councils.
And
you
know
when
we
we
reflect
that
too.
So
we
have
shifted,
but
it's
not
been
that
stayed
still
can't
screw
and
it's
not
been
static.
It
has
shifted
year
in
year
out
and
clearly
when
we
balance
at
the
end
of
the
year.
L
It's
based
on
all
our
all
the
all
the
Department's
budgets,
not
not
not
single,
but
not
single,
departmental
budgets,
but
I
would
say
that
what
it
has,
what
is
important
is
still
to
have
some
budget
accountability.
L
I
think
that
probably
works
well
in
terms
of
actually
keeping
disciplines
going
which
which
are
required,
and
if
you
leave
it
to
everybody,
then
everybody
has
a
reason
not
to
do
it.
So
we
have
to
balance
out
those
things
out.
A
A
I.
Just
think
it's
worth
in
your
introductory
words,
Victoria
just
be
worth
just
being
really
clear
about
where
we
are
from
our
knowledge
in
terms
of
settlement
from
national
government.
How
much
we
actually
know
would
be
helpful
in
terms
of
to
make
our
decisions,
foreign.
T
So
this
report
recommends
the
2324
budget
consultation
and
it
includes
proposals
around
the
HRA
and
the
capital
program
and
it
also
details
the
dedicated
School
Grant
allocations
and
we've
had
a
net
increase
in
Revenue
budget
of
35.2
million.
T
That's
after
the
additional
resources
that
we've
identified
from
council
tax
and
business
rates
and
identification
of
pressures,
which
includes
a
four
percent
pay
increase,
the
demand,
increases
and
inflation
and
then
the
savings
proposals
that
have
been
put
forward
for
consultation
of
69.8
million
and
the
report
assumes
council
tax
for
general
purposes
at
2.99
and
the
adult
social
care
precept
at
1.99
and
additional
income
from
business
rates
of
15.3
million.
T
T
The
details
of
the
savings
proposals
are
contained
within
the
report
and
also
executive
board
considered
the
application
to
form
a
business
rates
pool
for
next
year
with
five
West
Yorkshire
authorities
in
York
and
that
that's
gone
through.
T
T
However,
we
don't
stop
doing
the
budget
when
it
goes
to
executive
board,
we're
working
on
it
through
November
and
December,
and
a
number
of
pressures
were
identified
and
there
were
a
number
of
grants
that
were
rolled
into
RSG,
which
was
1.2
million,
which
reduces
really
that
4.6
down
to
3.4
and
we've
known
this
pressures
on
children's
and
families
transport
because
of
the
numbers
of
Education,
Health
and
Care
plans
that
are
coming
through.
So
we've
had
to
put
in
additional
resources
around
there.
T
When
we've
had
some
pain,
when
we've
done
the
pay
increases,
we've
had
we
needed
to
increase
and
some
of
the
Casual
staffs
pay
Etc.
So
we've
included
that,
and
we
and
we've
identified
from
this
financial
year
and
looking
forward
around
the
savings
proposal
around
procurement
because
of
the
levels
of
inflation
that
are
coming
through,
that
it's
it's
not
achievable,
and
therefore
we
have
identified
8.3
million
of
pressures
which
has
used
that
additional
resource
and
we
will
be
making
an
allocation
from
from
Reserve
to
balance
that
off.
A
A
My
thought:
okay,
I'm,
going
to
open
it
up
to
questions.
I,
can't
see
anyone
dedicating
so
I
start
and
my
own
question:
it's
just
about
inflation.
Clearly,
inflation
is
going
to
be,
is
unknown
and
is
quite
material
in
terms
of
the
cost.
I
just
wanted
to
get
your
sense
of
how
resilient
we
are
if
inflation
is
higher
than
we
budgeted
for.
T
And
we
will
be
monitoring
the
position
as
we
have
done
in
this
financial
year
and
we
have
provided
for
inflation
at
CPI
and
RPI
on
the
contracts
that
were
required
to
from
September,
and
we
will
be
reporting
on
a
monthly
basis
if
inflation
does
become
High.
We
will
have
to
look
at
action
throughout
the
year
as
we've
done
this
year
and
look
at
reducing
our
our
spend
to
manage
within
those
approved
budgets.
A
T
C
Thank
you
just
to
turn
to
page
135,
and
it's
point
three
point
three
point:
one
where
we
talk
about
if
I
was
having
a
great
economy,
basically
despite
the
difficulties
of
Corbin
and
brexit
and
whatnot,
and
we
see
from
the
Koreans
that
are
out
there
how
well
we
appear
to
be
doing.
C
However,
that's
not
manifesting
itself,
oh
so
now
in
business
rates,
growth
really,
which
is
one
of
the
things
that
we
look
to
fund
our
services
with,
don't
we
as
the
other
government
grants
have
been
reduced,
so
I
just
wondered:
I
did
and
I
remember
actually,
when
I
subbed
on
infrastructure
and
scrutiny
board,
raising
this
issue
Eve
about
flatlined
business
growth
and
then,
when
I
read
this
I
thought.
C
Okay.
Now
what
I
said
back
in
whenever
it
was
2019.,
so
yeah
I
just
wondered
if
that
is
sorely
down
to
the
lack
of
the
100
business
rate,
growth
retention
or
some
other
Factor,
because
what
what
does
strike
means?
There's
lots
of
growth
in
the
city
center
of
student
accommodation
which
doesn't
bring
in
business
rates?
Does
it
really
so?
Is
it
the
right
kind
of
growth
to
help
us
with
our
finances,
going
forward
to
meet
all
the
demands
that
are
now
forced
Upon
Us
by
the
13
years
now
of
austerity
government.
T
Victoria,
okay,
thank
you
chair
and
when
we've
done
the
business
rates
growth
and
we
are
looking
at
the
totality
so
the
there
are
cranes
in
in
the
city
and
we
we
have
had
some
increases
in
the
businesses
that
are
coming
in.
However,
when
we've
looked
at
some
of
the
smaller
businesses
Etc,
then
we've
had
to
look
at
those
businesses
that
aren't
continuing
and
that
has
affected
the
income
to
the
council.
As
you've
said,
some
of
the
student
accommodation
is
liable
to
council
tax,
which
is
then
exempt,
not
business
rates.
U
D
U
Coming
forwards
in
the
city
center
and,
for
example,
on
the
South,
Bank
and
I
think
as
as
those
come
to
completion,
there'll
be
a
number
that
are
complete
in
this
year.
We
should
see,
then
the
business
rates
coming
through
from
them.
So
yes,
a
lot
of
student
developments,
but
also
some
significant
offers.
Developments
in
in
the
city,
just
informal
kind
of
feedback
indicates
that
following
kind
of
covid-19,
a
lot
of
offices
are
kind
of
moving
around
the
city
as
well.
U
So
what's
happening
is
that
companies
are
looking
for
the
right
office
space
for
them
in
the
city
following
changing
sort
of
working
patterns,
and
so
that
will
also
probably
settle
in
this
year
kind
of
seeing
how
all
of
that
moves
around.
But
the
there
is
a
lot
of
positivity
overall
in
the
economy
and
Leeds
still
remain
in
the
digital
sector.
U
A
Okay,
thank
you
very
much.
Okay,
so
I'm
going
to
ask
to
make
a
comment
and
ask
another
question:
if
that's
all
right,
so
just
on
the
contact
center,
a
note
that
on
page
45
of
our
pack,
we
talked
about
it
earlier
and
we
didn't
actually
talk
about
it,
but
in
the
kpis
there's
a
there's,
an
improvement
on
the
contact
center
as
performance,
which
is
really
positive
and
clearly
there's
a
there's.
A
potential
Savings
in
that
I
know.
A
We
talked
about
this
in
the
the
session
briefing
before
Christmas,
just
like
to
assuming,
if
I'm
still
chair
next
year,
that's
something
that
we
will
be
watching
as
a
board
to
keep
an
eye
on
that
to
check
that
performance
keeps
going
in
the
right
direction
and
I
I
say
that
as
a
comment
because
I
just
want
to
let
you
know
the
the
other
question
I
just
wanted
to
touch
on
is
actually
councilor.
A
Chapman
raised
it
in
the
pre-Christmas
question
about
postage
and
how
much
we
spend
on
Posting
and
replication
of
budget.
So
I
guess
the
question
for
me
is:
do
we
know
how
much
we
spend
as
a
council
on
postage
overall
and
is
that
split
split
between
the
Retreats
and
I?
Guess
in
my
head?
There's
a
real
question
around.
We
did
a
lot
of
work
on
the
amount
we
printed
in
the
last
few
years
and
I
think
there's
been
some
real
results
from
that
work.
L
Make
a
couple
concerts
on
the
contact
center,
the
the
contact
contact
center
proposals
are
predicated
on
keeping
performance
up,
so
I'll
be
checking
our
proposals
to
make
sure
that
they
they
do
that
and
having
discussions
with
Council,
Cooper
and
others,
and
just
during
the
run-up
to
to
the
council,
to
just
just
double
check
those
because
the
it
isn't
proposed
to
be
done
at
the
expense
of
service
in
respect
to
Printing
and
and
postage
printing,
I
I
will
confirm
for
you,
but
I
believe
it's
come
down
by
around
about
80,
actually
so
a
huge
reduction
in
the
last
number
of
years
work
through,
which
we've
made
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
savings.
L
Clearly
there
are
still
opportunities
to
to
get
other
things
online.
Council
Chapman
has
given
me
some
examples
of
things
which
which
he's
received
unnecessarily
through
the
post,
and
we
can
still
we.
We
can
still
improve
that
I
think
we
will
see
through
some
of
the
improvements
which
we're
making,
for
example,
in
council
tax,
where
it's
been
quite
tricky
to
sort
of
change.
L
Details
yourself
online
we're
now
making
changes
there
and
not
unsurprisingly,
a
lot
of
people
when
they
go
into
that
then
elect
to
actually
receive
their
Council
Bill
via
email
rather
than
through
the
post.
So
we
will,
we
will
start
to
see
I,
think
improvements
in
those
in
those
areas
too.
There's
there's
certainly
some
still
some
way
to
go,
but
something
incredible
and
good
improvements
on
the
print
inside.
Q
All
right,
it's
interesting
about
the
council
tax
because
I'd
be
happy
to
take
my
council
tax
bill
electronically,
but
I've
never
seen
anything
asking
me
if
I
would
want
to
do
that.
So
it
might
be
you
get
it
through
people
that
are
contacting
you
to
change
something.
But
what
about
the
rest
of
us
that
just
get
the
bill
every
April
and
stick
it
in
a
cupboard
for
a
year
and
then
took
it
away
just
just
a.
A
Thought
yeah,
so
I
think
strategically.
There's
a
question
about
how
much
each
department
spends
on
Postage
and
then
some
thought
about
where
we
can
save
it.
For
example,
like
to
do
example
at
the
council
Chapman
mates
it's
clearly,
you
could
just
put
a
list,
a
link
that
says,
if
you're
happy
to
receive
this
electronically
who's
best
Bosch.
L
I
I
think
there
are
so
I
think
the
counter
stats
one
is
is
an
interesting
area
and
yeah
I
do
get
mine
through
email.
You
you
can.
L
If
you
persevere,
get
get
done,
but
you
it's
now
easier
to
do
it
and
I
think
we
will
start
to
see
a
shift
around
that
there
are
going
to
be
some
things
like
elections
which
are
actually
related
to
statues
and
so
forth,
and
actually
there
is
no
way
around
that
and
I
think
actually
that
will
probably
in
the
end
it
performs
already
a
very,
very
significant
part
of
our
of
our
bill.
So
there
will
be
a
certainly
reducible
amount,
but
there
are
some
areas
where
we
can.
P
Thank
you,
chair,
I
I
wanted
to
touch
the
current
political
Hot
Potato.
That
is
the
proposal
to
introduce
car
parking
charges
and
attractions
and
public
parks.
There's
been
a
lot
mentioned
today
about
inclusive
growth.
We've
talked
about
crushing
Health
inequalities
and
all
of
us,
I'm
sure,
are
receiving
multiple
correspondents
and
emails
from
concerned
residents
from
across
the
city,
who
are
worried
about
the
accessibility
of
their
public
parks
and
also
trying
to
improve
their
own
personal
lives.
P
I
have
two
particular
facilities
that
have
been
raised
with
me:
loverton,
where
we
already
charge
to
use
the
facilities
and
also
potentially
to
get
into
the
park
in
the
first
place,
and
also
Temple
Newsome
with
both
home
farm
and
the
house,
and
also
the
proposed
well,
the
astronomically
costed,
3.6
million
new
play
band,
that's
being
built
that
will
also
increase
the
actual
tickets
cost
to
actually
get
into
the
farm
itself
factored
in.
T
Thank
you
chair.
The
car
park
proposal
has
been
put
in
for
a
number
of
reasons.
The
actual
charge
that's
being
proposed
is
a
minimal
charge
and
the
investment
that
will
be
enabled
into
the
actual
car
parking
facilities
and
also
the
parks
attractions
and
will
help
to
fund
some
of
that.
So
it
is
an
initiative
to
give
benefit,
as
well
as
actually
a
charge
for
the
for
the
facilities.
T
T
A
Yes,
that's
something
that
I
understand
your
your
point.
Cancer
I
think
it's
a
it's
a
comment
which
is,
which
is
a
fair
comment:
challenge
to
and
I'm
sure
you
can
age
an
amendment
in
in
the
in
the
budget,
I
I
guess,
there's
a
there
is
a
political
question
here
which
I
don't
really
think
it's
fair
for
the
for
the
officer
to
comment
on,
but
yeah
I'll.
Let
you
come
back
up
to
me.
P
A
You
thank
you
and
and
I
guess
what
I'll
do
is
I'll
make
sure
I
mean
councilor
Cooper's
here
here
in
a
comment
and
so
she's
aware
and
I'm
sure
the
exec
board
have
considered
the
the
budget
as
a
whole.
Okay,
any
further
questions,
no
no
can
switch.
Your
final
question.
C
Well,
just
to
say
that
element
of
the
budget
is
still
under
consultation
and
I
think
that's
an
important
point
to
make
and
previous
consultations.
That
feedback
has
been
listened
to
and
taken
on
board
when
affordable,
such
as
I
think
District
parking
in
previous
years.
And
what
have
you
so
I'm
sure
things
will
be
taken
on?
My
own
personal
view
is
in
terms
of
the
investment
at
Temple
news
and,
for
example,
which
is
making
it
a
real
tourist
destination
go
to
park.
C
C
If
I
visited
to
Temple,
Newsome
and
I'd
expect
to
perhaps
buy
a
coffee
and
a
cake
at
the
lovely
Cafe
there,
a
bit
of
advertising
for
them
highly
recommend
it
an
extra
pound
or
whatever
two
pound
I,
don't
think
would
have
the
same
impact
as
it
might
have
actually
in
a
community
park
which
I
think
I'm
sure
will
be
taking
into
consideration
during
the
consultation
foreign.
A
Okay:
okay,
we
made
our
comments.
I
just
think
Council
Cooper,
yes,
yeah.
N
Thanks
chair
for
allowing
me
to
come
there
because
I
was
looking
naturally,
first,
some
paperwork
that
I
had
on
my
laptop
around
looking
at
various
other
cities
and
if
we
look
at
car
cities
and
they're
charging
for
major
parks
and
attractions
within
their
car
cities,
The
Proposal
that
is
is
before
us
that
we're
talking
about
is
is
very
minimum
charge
of
thought
to
Pence
an
hour
and
as
councilor
Richie
said
that
and
I
mentioned
earlier
in
the
meeting
this
is.
N
There
are
two
layers
to
this
to
the
budget
consultation,
the
initial
budget
consultation
that
we've
already
had
and
then
there
will
be
individual
service
reviews
which
I
would
imagine.
Following
the
budget
consultation,
the
service
reviews
are
going
to
come
out
fairly
swiftly
and
and
that
car
parking
charges,
perhaps
on
Countryside,
will
be
part
of
that
service
review
and
and
then
I'm
happy
to
take
comment
from
scrutiny.
N
Bard
on
that,
if
I
can
just
make
a
point
about
Temple,
Newsome
and
counselor
first
comment
on
the
astronomical
cost
of
the
introduction
of
a
player
bound
there,
Ward
members
and
as
a
ward
member
for
temple
Newsom.
We
have
absolutely
fought
for
additional
investment
in
Temple
news
and
to
increase
the
visitors
to
that
attraction.
That's
a
city-wide
attraction.
N
You
know
to
enable
it
to
thrive
and
survive,
and
Play
Barney
is
something
that
has
been
wanted
by
many
local
residents.
I
have
to
say
with
their
somewhere.
They
can
take
their
children
in
the
winter
and
and
really
enjoy
those
amenities
and
I
do
think
that
councilor
Firth
was
making
political
points
here
at
scrutiny
and
there'll
be
plenty
of
opportunity
to
do
that,
furthering
Council
in
February
when
we
actually
set
the
budget.
These.
You
must
remember
our
male
proposals
at
the
moment.
A
Okay,
thank
you
very
much.
I
guess.
The
only
other
comment
I'd
make
on
that
item.
Is
it's
possible
not
likely
but
possible.
The
government
could
improve
the
funding
offer,
so
the
city
of
Leeds
gets
the
funding
it
deserves,
and
then
we
could
reverse
a
number
of
things
that
we
don't
want
to
do,
but
we,
the
Administration,
has
been
forced
to
do
because
of
budget
cuts
and
okay,
so
I'm
going
to
move
on
now.
So
thank
you
very
much
officers
for
coming
really
appreciate
your
time.
A
I
think
we've
had
interesting
number
eight
and
hopefully,
you've
noted
the
comments
from
the
board.
So
the
board
will
now
move
on
to
the
work
program.
So
I
think
there's
just
a
couple
of
comments
from
Rob
to
start
with
and
then
I'll
I'll
accept
questions.
R
Yes,
thank
you,
chair
yeah,
just
just
very
briefly.
I
would
reference
the
potential
working
group
on
equality,
diversity
and
inclusion.
So
members
are
aware
that
I
will
get
in
touch
with
you
as
soon
as
possible,
with
dates
for
that
also
conscious
that
some
members
are
not
available
totally
throughout
February.
So
I
will
bear
that
in
mind
as
I
arrange
that
and
then.
Secondly,
the
work
program
item
for
does
list
in
March
that
we'll
bring
forward
some
a
report
on
the
peer
challenge.
R
The
LG
APA
challenge,
subject
to
consultation
with
colleagues
I
think
that
now
likely
to
come
forward
our
next
meeting
in
February,
so
just
to
make
members
aware
of
that,
and
the
plan
will
also
be
to
ensure
that
other
security
chairs
are
invited
to
attend
that
so
that
all
remits
are
covered
under
that
peer
challenge.
Item
I
think
that's
it
for
me
chair.
Thank
you.
A
Any
comments
for
members
no
safer.
Thank
you
very
much
for
coming
today.
I
think
we've
had
really
efficient
meeting
compared
to
what
we
normally
do.
So
thank
you
very
much
and
have
a
good
rest
of
your
day.
Okay,
take
care.