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A
Okay,
right
welcome
to
the
strategy
board,
environment,
housing
and
communities
for
july.
I'm
councillor,
barry
anderson.
I
chair
this
particular
scrutiny
board,
so
welcome
to
all
the
guests
we've
got
today
and
also
to
all
of
our
members,
and
if
there
is
anybody
as
council
wall
shaw
refers
to
the
stratosphere
out
there.
If
there
is
anybody
listening
to
us
today
welcome,
and
hopefully
you
find
today's
discussion
on
community
safety
in
all
its
different
guises,
interesting
and
informative,
as
it
does
affect
all
of
us
in
the
city,
in
some
shape
or
form.
A
C
Morning,
everyone
I'm
councillor,
annie
maloney
in
beeson
and
holbeck
ward,.
D
Good
morning,
john
tudor
from
killingbeck
and
sikcroft
ward.
E
Good
morning,
everyone
javid
doctor
councillor
for
london,
woodhouse
and
the
city
center.
F
Good
afternoon,
everyone
councillor
asghar
khan,
for
birmingham's,
rich
middle
award,.
G
D
Good
morning,
everybody,
simon
hodgson,
head
of
service
for
community
safety
services.
Thank
you.
H
Good
morning,
everyone,
chief
inspector
pete
hall
from
west
yorkshire,
please.
M
Good
morning
everyone
councillor
trish
smith,
I
represent
the
pudgy
ward.
A
That's
just
used
up
all
the
time
allocated
to
us.
Thank
you
very
much
thanks
very
seriously
right.
So
if
we
can
go
through
items
one
to
five,
just
let
angela
go
through
them
all.
P
Thank
you
chet.
So,
in
relation
to
agenda
item
one,
there
are
no
appeals
against
the
refusal
of
inspection
of
documents
in
relation
to
item
two.
There
are
no
items
excluded
from
the
public
domain
under
item
three.
There
are
no
late
items
of
business
and
item
four.
At
this
point,
can
I
ask
members
to
make
any
declarations
of
interest
and
I
shall
take
silences.
None.
Thank
you
very
much
and
in
relation
to
item
five,
we
have
apologies
from
councillor
lay
and
council
heartbroke
is
attending
a
substitute
member.
Thank
you.
Thank.
A
You
to
counselor
heartbroke
for
volunteering
to
come
along
here
today
right
item
six,
the
minutes
of
the
last
meeting.
Everybody
happy
that
they
are
a
true
record.
Any
matters
arising.
Anybody
wants
to
raise
any
issues.
A
H
P
Yeah
chad,
just
to
mention
under
minute
number
seven,
which
is
the
scrutiny
board
terms
of
reference
it
is.
It
has
now
been
confirmed
that
the
functions
of
the
directory
resources
that
relate
to
civic
enterprise
leads
and
community
infrastructure
levy
are
to
be
removed
from
the
remit
of
this
particular
scrutiny
board.
So
the
functions
related
to
civic
enterprise
leads
are
now
included
within
the
arena
strategy
and
resources,
scrutiny
board
and
the
functions
relating
to
community
infrastructure
levy
are
to
be
included
in
the
remit
of
the
infrastructure,
investment
and
inclusive
growth
scrutiny
board.
A
You
we're
all
relieved,
oh
right,
so
the
main
purpose
of
today's
meeting
is
to
review
the
west
yorkshire,
policing
crime
plan
and
also
the
safer,
stronger
communities
and
you'll
update,
we'll
deal
with
them
separately,
but
also
together
at
the
same
time,
because
there
will
be
times
when
they
will
cross
over
in
terms
of
what's
happening
because
they
are
integrated
together.
It's
our
role
to
see
whether
or
not
they're,
properly
integrated
or
not,
as
the
case
may
be,
and
where
there
may
be
gaps.
A
So
if
we
take
the
police
and
west
yorkshire,
police
and
crime
plan
2021
2024,
first
of
all,
so
who
is
going
to
lead
on?
Basically,
yes,
if
you'd
like
to
lead
off.
Thank
you.
G
G
G
G
You
can
see
from
the
report
that
we've
had
responses
from
across
the
county.
The
consultation
was
supplemented
by
a
detailed
needs
analysis
which
again
is
published
on
our
website,
so
the
police
and
crime
plan
has
four
priorities:
the
first
one
supporting
victims
and
witnesses
and
improving
criminal
justice
outcomes.
G
G
This
includes
child
sexual
exploitation
and
rape
and
sexual
offences,
which
were
both
identified
as
key
concerns
in
our
public
consultation,
safer
places
and
thriving
communities.
Priority
focuses
on
neighborhood,
policing
and
again.
This
is
a
priority
which
was
identified
by
the
public
in
the
consultation
that
we
did,
and
it
also
captures
the
work
of
the
violence
reduction
unit
or
the
vru
and
the
final
priority
responding
to
multiple
and
complex
needs.
This
focuses
on
early
intervention
and
trauma-informed
work.
G
Page
19
gives
you
some
examples
of
what
we've
been
able
to
achieve
so
far.
The
police
and
crime
plan
includes
information
about
measuring
performance
and
the
mayor's
delivery.
Quarterly
meeting
with
the
chief
constable
includes
reporting
against
the
police
performance
targets,
and
these
are
also
reported
to
the
police
and
crime
panel.
Our
partnership
executive
group
is
also
important
in
terms
of
having
oversight
of
performance
against
the
plan's
priorities
by
the
police,
by
partners
and
by
ourselves.
A
You
thank
you
very
much
happy
to
take
questions
I'll
open
it
up
to
questions
in
a
minute
and
also
to
get
the
views
of
our
police
and
crime
panel
members.
But
there
are
two
other
people
have
come
into
the
meeting
since
we
started
so
I'll.
Ask
them
to
introduce
themselves
so
that
people
know
who
everybody
is
so
cancer.
Graham.
First
of
all,.
G
B
A
So
we've
heard
what
julie
reed
has
said
before
we
take
when
we
open
it
up
to
questions.
Can
I
ask
councillor
garthwaite
if
she
could
outline
what
the
role
of
the
police
panel
is
in
respect
of
monitoring
this
and
then
also
councillor
amanda
carter
will
be
invited
to
talk
as
well
from
her
perspective
as
to
what's
happening
so
counselor
garth
wait.
J
Thank
you.
Yes,
the
role
of
the
police
and
crime
panel
west
yorkshire
is
to
hold
deputy
mayor
to
account
and
against
the
mayor
to
make
sure
that
she
is
on
top
of
and
aware
of
how
the
police,
force
and
others
are
delivering
the
police
and
crime
plan,
and
it
is
in
in
that
way
it's
similar
to
a
scrutiny
board
in
that
we
are
scrutinizing
what
she
does
finding
out,
how
she
ensures
that
the
actions
of
the
police
and
crime
plan
are
being
carried
out.
J
A
View,
that's
fine.
Thank
you.
Yeah.
Have
you
any
observations
that
you
would
like
to
make
on
the
west
yorkshire
police
plan
as
a
you
know,
because
you're
just
new
in
positions
or
anything
any
initial
thoughts
that
you've
had
about
great?
I
will
put
it
this
way.
Knowing
you
there
will
be
certain
things.
I
know
you
will
have
a
particular
interest
in
so
do
you
want
to
just
highlight
the
things
that
you
feel
you're
going
to
be
looking
at
this
year?
J
J
A
B
B
The
only
criticism
I
have-
and
we
do
have
a
chance
to
shape
the
police
and
crime
plan,
and
the
only
criticism
that
I
would
have
at
this
stage
is
that
I'm
a
little
bit
concerned
that
boys
and
men
are
going
to
be
missed
out,
because
we
are
concentrating
on
women
and
girls,
and
rightly
so.
We
should
concentrate
on
violence
against
women
and
girls
because
there's
no
doubt
about
it,
it
has
escalated
and
it
really
does
need
tackling.
B
A
That's
fine,
thank
you.
So
if
I
can
now
open
it
up
to
the
squishing
board
to
ask
questions,
anybody
like
to
yeah
kenzie
cunningham.
B
Thanks
chair,
thank
you,
I'm
quite
interested
in
in
the
fact
that,
for
the
consultation
itself,
the
the
return
figures
were
quite
low
in
terms
of
the
people
who
and
the
organizations
who
fed
into
it
and
with
many
of
the
themes
we
are
going
to
rely
a
lot
on
community
engagement
for
things
like
intelligence
and
cooperation
to
work
on
on
these
strategies.
So
I
just
wondered
what
other
things
we've
got
in
place
now
to
try
and
encourage
more
involvement
from
communities
into
the
strategies
and
plans
going
forward.
G
Yes,
so
the
work
we've
already
we've
begun
the
work
to
develop
the
strategies,
and
but
we
we
have
a
planned
program
of
engagement
just
to
to
help
to
co-design
those
strategies
with
members
of
the
public
and
with
partners,
and
that's
work
that
we're
planning
over
the
next
six
months.
You'll
see
on
the
report
on
page
17.
It
gives
you
the
indicated
time
frame
for
those
strategies
being
published
when
we
did
the
consultation
for
the
plan
itself.
G
The
commissioning
strategy
is
already
quite
well
on
the
way
with
that.
There's
a
co-design
event
well
that
there
are
co-design
events
across
the
county,
but
there's
one
in
leeds
next
week.
The
the
safety
of
women
and
girls
strategy
will
be
the
first
one
to
be
worked
on.
We
have
we've
already
had
one
engagement
event
with
partners
to
begin
to
frame
that
strategy
and
there's
more
planned.
So
I'd
like
to
give
you
some
reassurance
that
that
is.
That
is
definitely
the
approach
that
we're
going
to
take.
G
So
all
the
the
views
and
and
the
information
that
we're
gathering
throughout
our
work
will
feed
into
that
review
and
refresh,
and
in
addition
to
the
direct
engagement
that
we
have
with
people
and
groups,
we
also
have
a
very
active
casework
team
in
the
in
policing
and
crime
team
who
deal
with
contact
direct
contact
that
people
make
with
the
mayor
and
the
deputy
mayor
and
those
the
things
that
come
through
that
casework
team
are
also
fed
into
our
analysis
of
you
know
what
we
may
need
to
change
as
we
review
the
plan
going
forward.
O
Thank
you
just
yeah,
really
thank
you
for
your
comments.
Council
coming,
so
we
just
really
want
to
build
on
that
and
thanks
for
all
the
efforts
being
made
to
engage
with
the
local
local
communities.
O
O
You
know,
and
I'm
sure
other
members
see
this
every
day,
I'm
passionate
about
wanting
to
build
up
trust
and
dialogue
between
the
police
and
communities,
because
clearly
the
communities
have
our
communities
have
a
huge
amount
of
intelligence
that
will
will
make
our
community
safer,
if
only
it
can
be
kind
of
tapped
into
and
mobilized
the
thing
we
I
the
thing
you
hear
a
lot
and
again
I'm
sure
we
all
hear
it
is
people
say
well.
You
know
I
kind
of
tell
stuff
to
the
police,
but
you
know
never
heard
that.
O
And
I
appreciate,
of
course
we
we
can't
disclose
details
about
investigations,
but
just
people
to
have
an
assurance
and
for
their
perception
to
be
shifted
towards
the
police
are
really
listening
and
they're
acting
on
what
we're
telling
them.
And
when
that
does
happen,
I
think
communities
are
emboldened
and
the
the
intelligence
flows.
I've
seen
it
happen.
G
If
I
may
chair,
I
I'd
like
to
bring
in
my
colleague
here
to
to
answer
from
a
district
police
in
perspective.
D
H
H
Ultimately,
but
we
just
had
exactly
the
same
conversation
with
counselor
anderson
about
how
do
we
update
communities
and
that's
always
been
better
with
going
out
to
communities,
tell
them
what
we're
acting
on
building
the
trust
up,
particularly
using
social
media,
but
also
getting
out
into
communities
and
face-to-face
and
telling
people
what
we're
doing,
because
you're
right
that
that
will
increase
community
confidence,
which
then
will
let
people
respond
to
various
other
reports,
but
you're
right.
We
can
get
better
at
it.
H
We
try
to
get
better
at
it
and
it's
the
thing
that
the
council
is
particularly
raising
leads
is
our
communication.
We
were
acting
on
some
intelligence
the
other
day
about
some
drug
dealing,
got
some
prisoners
in,
but
we
probably
didn't
feed
back
to
the
communities
in
the
right
way.
So
it's
definitely
taking
on
board
and
I
think
if
we
do
do
it
right
and
better,
it
will
increase
the
confidence
in
our
communities.
A
E
Yeah,
thank
you,
chair.
Just
looking
at
your
plan
for,
from
the
mail's
point
of
view,
there
will
be
additional
252
offices
by
april
2020
22..
Where
are
we
with
this
particular
plan,
and
can
you
please
break
down
the
especially
the
west?
Yorkshire
itself
is
such
a
diverse
population
that
we
we
live
in
and
which
we
are
all
proud
to
be
a
part
of
it.
How
many
of
those
officers
will
be
from
the
bam
community,
especially
from
the
post
courts
from
inner
city
areas?
G
What
I
can
say
is
that
the
mayor
set
out
a
pledge
to
re
to
recruit,
750
new
officers
and
staff
by
2024,
and
actually
the
latest
report
that
we've
got
shows
that
we
are
on
track
to
exceed
that
slightly
frontline
new
frontline
offices
and
staff.
I
know
that
west
yorkshire
police
have
done
a
lot
of
work
to
encourage
and
facilitate
applications
from
individuals
from
the
bain
community,
but
there's
obviously
more
work
to
be
done,
but
we
can
provide
that
information
for
you
as
a
follow-up.
E
If
I
may
quickly
chair,
thank
you
for
that
and
I
I
must
say
that
over
the
years
we
have
seen
the
big
difference
within
the
police
force,
trying
to
encourage
the
vm
community
to
be
a
part
of
the
force
which
which
serves
many
of
our
local
residents.
But
you
know
like
if
we,
if
you
look
around
around
this
room
around
the
table,
you
can
see
such
a
diverse
and
and
the
and
the
gender
balance
and
the
rest
to
it.
E
But
when,
when,
when
we
look
at
some
of
the
establishments
or
forces
like
west
yorkshire
over
the
years,
it
wasn't
the
same
20
years
ago,
it
was
different
to
to
where
we
are
at
the
moment.
So
I
would
like
to
see
more
black
asian
and
and
from
the
bam
community
and
especially
from
bam
community
within,
I
always
have
said
there
is
a
minority
within
the
minority.
E
We've
got
the
females
such
a
intelligent
and
and
and
resilient
members
of
our
communities
who
have
never
given
the
opportunity
so
we're
good
to
see
some
of
our
black
and
women,
black
and
asian
women
taking
part
in
in
in
in
the
west
yorkshire
police
as
well.
But
thank
you
for
all
the
work
that
you
guys
are
doing.
F
Thank
you
chair
and
also
welcome
this
plan.
It's
really
helpful
and
you
know
my
question
is
on
page
16
of
the
survey
consultation
engagement,
there's
only
seven
percent
were
from
black
and
minority
ethnic
group
and
then,
when
you
look
down,
87
percent
were
from
themselves
called
as
white
people.
You
know,
there's
a
massive
gap
between
you
know
and
it
does
not
reflect
the
society
and
does
not
reflect
the
west
yorkshire.
F
My
question
is:
what
are
we
doing
to
counter
that
and
close
that
gap
is
do
they?
Is
it
a
language
barrier?
Do
they
need
extra
help
to
for
that
consultation?
What
are
we
what's?
The
results
should
please
doing
and
just
follow.
Counselor
actor
it'll
be
really
useful.
Also,
if
you
can
have
a
breakdown
in
the
senior
management
as
well
senior
level
always
short
should
plays
from
different
minority
group
as
well.
Please.
G
G
G
The
mayor
is
is
about
to
appoint
an
inclusivity
champion
and
there
is
a
plan
of
work
throughout
the
combine
authority,
including
policing
and
crime,
to
develop
that
area
of
work
and
to
make
sure
that
all
our
communities
have
an
opportunity
to
influence
the
work
that
we're
doing
to
get
involved
and
to
get
their
voices
heard.
And
so
yes,
I
mean
I
I
I
can
only
agree
with
you
but
say
that
the
that
this
is
something
that
that
is
the
priority
for
us.
G
F
Yeah,
thank
you.
That's
really
useful
and,
as
you
know,
as
literature
council,
we've
got
some
fantastic
relationship
with
our
communities
and
I
know
the
west.
Yorkshire
police
has
a
fantastic
relationship
with
the
lead
city
council
and
I
think
we
can
work
more
better,
especially
on
this
consultation
engagement
with
local
communities,
because
we
are
the
eyes
and
ears
like
the
west,
yorkshire
as
well,
so
we'll
be
able
to
help
you
on
that
as
well.
A
J
The
proportion
of
the
work
force
from
ethnic
minorities
is
6.6,
but
officers
are
currently
above
this
at
7.3
percent
and
staff
numbers.
It's
an
increasing
trend
and
in
terms
of
female
officers,
again,
it's
the
highest
home
office
status
level,
one
for
female
representation,
meaning
the
representation
of
females
within
this
force
is
greater
than
the
overall
england
and
wales
rate.
J
Now,
what
I
don't
have
in
front
of
me
is
the
is
the
intersectionality
of
which
of
those
women
are
from
bame
backgrounds,
which
obviously
we
can
provide
and
find
out,
but
we
do
seem
to
be
going
in
the
right
direction,
and
this
is
something
that
we
did
question
at
the
last
meeting
of
the
panel.
E
No,
no,
no,
I'm
I'm
quite
relaxed
with
that
I
mean,
I
know
I'll
she's
by
the
way.
Congratulations
on
your
new
role
as
a
chair
for
the
police
and
crime
panel,
but
no
doubt
people
like
al
who
are
well
engaged
with
our
communities
here
in
leeds
and
and
that
message
obviously
will
be
reflected
in
within
the
within
the
panel
as
well.
So
with
the
mayor
and
and
obviously
with
the
deputy
mayor
as
well.
E
Who
was
a
councillor
for
many
years,
so
I
think
over
the
years
the
future
looks
quite
bright
for
for
all
the
communities.
So
we
have
all
the
confidence
with
yourself,
al
and
and
all
the
team
from
from
the
from
mez
office,
but
let's,
let's
not
relax
on
it
and
keep
keep
keep
working
hard
and
we
don't
to
be
in
a
position
in
10
years
down
the
road
where
we
probably
will
slip
the
missed
the
trick.
E
Basically-
and
I
think
it's
hard
to
engage
and
what
comes
from
khan
just
said.
Is
it's
hard
to
reach
those
communities
and
if
those
communities
want
to
become
a
police
officers,
that's
a
bonus
point
to
the
police
force.
I
think
and
and
and
I
always
said
it's
a
god's
gift
and
you
know
let's,
let's
build
it
up.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
So
cancer.
M
Thank
you
chair
and
thank
you
for
this
report.
I
found
it
enlightening.
I've
got
a
couple
of
questions.
Stroke
comments
please.
If
I
may
so,
I
know
we're
going
to
one
of
the
priorities
is
to
focus
on
domestic
violence
against
women
and
girls,
but
I'd
like
to
broaden
that
into
the
whole
child
exploitation.
M
Please,
if
I
may,
because
as
councillor
carter
has
rightly
pointed
out,
it
isn't
just
young
girls
that
are
subject
to
this
there's
also
all
of
our
young
people
and
in
very
many
ways.
That
leads
me
on
to
my
second
point,
which
is
the
way
that
our
young
people
then
enter
into
criminality.
M
So
you
know
it.
It
might
start
us
fairly
low-key
and
build
up
that
then
builds
us
into
a
cost
situation
for
our
own
council
and
obviously
every
other
council
across
the
the
region
and
the
country
eating.
You
know
it's
a
cost
to
the
police
and
neighborhood
police
and
teams,
the
highways
parks
and
countryside,
the
safer,
stronger
communities,
team
wyker,
even
because
a
lot
of
the
criminality
is
against
buses
or
in
bus
stations,
and
then
they
get
injured
and
it
is
a
cost
to
our
nhs.
M
So
I
would
like
to
think
that
we
would
be
able
to
draw
on
the
circa
5.5
million
pots
of
money
that
we've
got
and
really
do
some
good
community
engagement
work.
Our
neighborhood
policing
team
are
fantastic,
I've
got
to
say,
I
think
they're
brilliant
we've
done
bike
marking.
M
Events
and
they've
attended
a
lot
of
our
community
events,
and
I
wonder
if
that
the
pot
of
money
could
be
used
to
draw
across
into
other
communities
and
replicate
that
as
a
you
know,
as
an
engagement
idea
that
would
then
bring
about
raising
the
profile
of
the
police
force.
It
would
be
in
a
positive
manner,
rather
than
the
negative
way
when
you've
already
committed
a
crime
and
you're
already
in
trouble,
it's
already
a
negative,
so
it
would
be
a
much
more
positive
engagement
and,
and
that
would
possibly
build
up.
M
You
know
the
the
community
engagement
scores
that
we're
getting.
Thank
you.
A
G
Yes,
what
what
we
I
haven't
gone
into
detail
in
this
report
on
is
the
violence
reduction
units
response
strategy,
so
the
the
the
principle
behind
the
violence
reduction
work
is
early
intervention,
which
is
exactly
to
to
deal
with
the
scenario
that
you've
just
outlined
to
to
to
focus
the
the
intervention
on
the
earlier
years
to
you
know,
capture
young
people
and
divert
divert
them
and
and
deal
reduce
the
risk
that
they
will
move
into
more
serious
crime,
and
the
violence
reduction
unit
has
just
recently
been
awarded
a
three-year
funding
settlement
from
the
home
office.
G
Previously
they
were
awarded
annual
settlements,
which
made
longer-term
planning
quite
difficult,
particularly
when
you're
talking
about
early
intervention
work,
which
obviously
will
take
some
time
to
have
an
impact,
but
they've
got
a
three-year
funding
deal
of
15
million
pounds
so
and
they
have
a
dedicated
engagement
team
within
that
unit.
G
So
certainly
that
is
an
approach,
and
it
also
is
an
approach.
That's
explained
in
in
the
police
and
crime
plan,
the
early
intervention
approach
in
terms
of
child
exploitation.
G
Yes,
yes,
it
affects
both
boys
and
girls,
and
this
is
we
have
a
a
range
of
partnership
boards
that
bring
partners
together
to
to
look
at
various
aspects
of
the
plan,
and
we
have
a
vulnerability
and
safeguarding
board
which
focuses
on
child
sexual
or
criminal
exploitation.
G
We've
also
at
the
panel's
request,
will
focus
on
children
and
young
people
in
all
the
reports
that
we
present
to
the
panel
now
so
that
we
keep
that.
You
know
that
spotlight
on
how
the
work,
the
plan
and
the
work
that
we're
doing,
impacts
on
children
and
young
people.
Recognising
that
you
know,
if
that's
not
addressed,
then
you
know
it
leads
to
further
problems
down
the
line.
C
Thanks
chair
so
paragraph
six,
six.
C
So
it's
six
thousand
pound
grants
and
its
money
awarded
to
existing
organizations.
C
I'm
just
I'm
just
interested
to
know
if
the
35
39
organizations
like
what
is
the
spread
like
geographically,
if
the
fund
is
over
subscribed,
how
is
it
that
you
whittle
them
down
like?
Are
there
priority
neighborhoods
or
sort
of
you
know,
based
on
data.
C
What
is
the?
What
is
the
what's
word
process
by
which
you
apply
for
these?
If
you
have
you
had
it
looked
at
to
make
sure
that
as
many
barriers
as
possible
are
removed
so
that
more
grassroots
organizations
can
apply
for
it
from
a
more
varied
backgrounds?
Yeah,
I'm
just
I'm
just
checking
that
funding
isn't
going
by
accident
to
entirely
affluent
areas.
Really.
Thank
you.
G
Thank
you.
So
the
mayor's
safer
communities
fund
runs
three
grant
rounds
a
year
and
there's
there's
a
link
on
our
website.
That
gives
full
details
and
also
explains
what
previous
rounds
have
been
devoted
to.
But
the
requirement
is
that
bids
support
an
element
of
the
police
and
crime
plan.
So
that's
people
who
are
bidding
have
to
explain
how
their
their
work
will
support
the
achievements
of
the
police
and
crime
plan.
G
They
do
take
account
of
the
districts
and
to
make
sure
that
it's
not
all
going
to
the
same
area
in
the
county
that
there's
a
an
equitable
spread,
but
the
the
the
funding
that's
approved
is
to
further
the
aims
of
the
plan.
Ultimately,.
C
Yes,
please,
chair
into
so
so
in
terms
of
the
39
that
have
already
been
funded.
Is
there
any?
Is
there
any
lie,
data
on
what
the
impact
is
and
also
I
can't
remember-
is
it
super
output
areas
like?
Have
you
matched
it
up
to
the
super
output
areas
to
see
where
that
funding
is
going?
Well,
I
end.
C
C
It'd,
just
be
a
real
big
shame
you
know
so
it
has
has.
Has
the
impact
been
measured
in
that
way
with
the
super
output
areas
like
how?
How
are
you
going
to
be
following
up
to
see
what
what
that
impact
is.
G
So
the
organizations
are
required
to
report
back
to
us
on
the
work
that
they've
done
with
the
funding,
and
we
do
follow
it
up
afterwards
and
and
report
on
that
in
terms
of
the
super
output
analysis,
I'm
not
sure
that
that
is
being
done,
but
I
can.
I
can
go
back
and
get
some
more
data
and
and
provide
you
with
further
information
on
that.
G
The
you're
right,
six
thousand
pounds
isn't
a
great
deal
of
money,
but
it
does
make
a
big
difference
to
small
organizations
on
the
ground,
and
our
team
do
do
quite
a
lot
of
work
to
help
organizations
apply
for
the
funding
when
they
you
know
when
they
get
in
touch.
They
are
given
a
lot
of
support
to
help
them
to
frame
their
application
and
to
assist
them
with
doing
that
so,
but
I
certainly
can
bring
more
information
back
to
to
the
board
to
explain
what
we've
done
in
the
past.
A
J
Don't
have
the
answer
to
everything,
but
again
in
the
performance
report,
we
were
given
a
district
breakdown
where
leads
received
out
of
the
39
projects:
11
bradford
7,
kirkland,
7,
calderdale,
6,
wakefield,
6,
multi,
district
1
and
across
west
yorkshire
won.
I
think
this
is
a
fair
distribution
given
the
size
of
the
different
authorities.
J
We
also
asked,
as
panel
members
that
we
should
see
the
evaluation
forms
and
so
that
we
can
monitor
precisely
what
you've
been
just
asking.
The
details
are
on
the
website.
As
you
say,
and
I
did
look
at
them,
it's
worth
remembering
that
the
address
of
the
organization
that
might
have
applied
for
them
doesn't
necessarily
reflect
where
they
might
be
actually
delivering
the
project.
But
I'm
sure
you
would
see
that.
A
C
Yeah
sorry
I'll
just
come
back
because
I'm
not
I'm
not
talking
about
the
sort
of
equal
distribution
across
districts,
I'm
talking
about
making
sure
that
the
funding
is
going
to
areas
that
need
it
rather
than
more
affluent
areas
like
I'm
not
like.
I'm
sure
that
it'll
be
it'll
be
distributed
equally
in
terms
of
district.
But
you
know.
B
Yeah
councillor
gotham,
it's
quite
right,
you
know,
and
also
it
doesn't
reflect
where
the
organization
is
wherever
the
address
is.
But
I
just
have
to
tell
you
that
there
is
there's
been
four
knife
crimes
in
pudsey,
which
you
might
think
is
an
affluent
area,
but
with
counter
lines
and
drugs
kids
in
if
there
is
pockets
of
deprivation
everywhere,.
B
Yeah,
which
is
really
important
but
pudsey,
you
would
not
think,
is
an
area
of
deprivation,
but
there
are
small
pockets
of
it
and
there
are
serious
problems
in
terms
of
knife
crime
so
and
can
counter
smith's
laughing
because
it's
her
award.
But
it's
it's
not
funny.
It's
it's
very,
very
serious.
I
have
been,
I
don't
know
the
ability
to
catch
and
usually
catch.
Well,
that's
that's
one
of
the
projects.
That's
spotted
by
the
violence
reduction
unit,
which
is
in
hair,
hills,
hair,
hills,
doing
an
absolutely
brilliant
job
fantastic.
C
Sorry,
chair
yeah,
thank
you
this.
This
is
why
I
mentioned
data
and
it
being
backed
up
with
data
just
to
all
I'm
all
I'm
wanting
to
do
is
make
sure
that
the
money's
going
to
where
it
needs
to
be
going
like
I
did
live
in
pudsey
for
a
bit,
so
I
know
that
it's
not
as
sunshine
and
rainbows
everyone
makes
out,
but
the
the
same
can
be
said
about
various
super
output
areas
across
the
city
and
across
west
yorkshire.
I'm
just
that's
all
I'm
doing
I'm
just
checking.
A
Right
councillor,
heartbroke.
N
Thank
you
chair
three
points
that
I'd
like
to
make
so
I'll
kind
of
make
the
simply
as
possible.
I
think
I'd
like
to
start
off
by
saying
that
thanking
the
police,
the
pcsos
and
all
the
support
staff
for
the
fantastic
job
they
do
with
the
limited
resources
they've
got
in
keeping
our
communities
safe.
A
few
just
general
questions,
one,
I'm
a
great
believer
in
prevention
is
better
than
cure,
especially
when
it
comes
to
policing
and
obviously
community.
N
Some
communities
across
leeds
are
seeing
reductions
in
pcso
numbers
of
a
recent
year
or
two,
and
I
know
if
you're
speaking
slightly
parochially
in
my
own
ward,
I've
seen
levels
of-
and
it's
mentioned
on
page
15
of
this
report-
that
the
youth
yeah,
youth,
nuisance,
youth
nuisance
has
come
to
the
fore
again
and
reducing
and
stopping
a
lot
of
stuff
almost
before
it
happens,
so
it
doesn't
make
the
headlines.
N
I
know
it's
something
that
pcso's,
particularly
in
my
experience,
have
a
huge
effect
on,
and
I
just
wondered
whether
what
what
plans
were
to
you
know
to
review
that
and
to
look
at
that
and
to
see
where
we
go
forward.
Second
point-
and
it
is
mentioned
again
on
page
15
of
your
report-
the
road
safety
boy,
races,
modified
vehicles,
quad
bikes,
dirt
bikes,
is
a
huge
issue,
particularly
across
south
leeds.
N
I
don't
hear
a
match
about
other
bits
of
leads,
but
it's
one
of
the
largest
things
that
I
see
comments
on
and
one
and
has
a
huge,
huge
public,
and
I
I
go
back
to
comment
that
was
made
by
one
of
the
police
officers
at
a
community
meeting.
I
was
in
almost
a
year
ago,
where
often
these
bikes,
when
they
even
when
they
are
recovered
I've
given
back
to
the
owner
because
magically
the
person
who's
dumps
it
and
you
cut
and
runs
off
from
it,
isn't
the
owner.
N
So
it's
quite
difficult
to
take
these
vehicles
off.
I
say
off
the
road
not
often
just
on
the
road.
Are
they
but
off
out
of
the
community,
because
when
they're
recovered
they're
like
oh
yeah,
that
was
stolen,
sorry
can
I
have
it
back
please.
So
I
wonder
whether
there's
anything
that
can
be
done
there
to
you
know
further
clamp
down
on
what
is
both
a
noise
nuisance,
but
also
physical,
a
physical
nuisance
and
plus
people,
often
using
community
spaces.
N
N
I
suppose,
a
blanket
vanilla
treatment
of
of
a
group
turns
up
in
the
travelers,
so
we
share
intelligence
and
we
know
that
we
know
those
groups
better
and
can
respond
more
appropriately
and
proportionately,
based
on
their
track
record,
because
at
the
moment
it
feels
as
though,
simply
by
a
community.
You
know
a
group
of
disruptive
people
arrive
in
the
community,
cause
an
awful
lot
of
police
time,
a
lot
of
community
distress
and
then
simply
by
moving
six
miles
up,
the
road
can
start
with
a
clean
slate.
N
Again,
it's
how
it
feels,
and
I
think
that
that
you
know
if
community,
if
individuals
have
shoplifted
or
caused
criminal
damage
that
shh
they
shouldn't
be
allowed
to
like
wipe
slate,
please
simply
by
moving
to
the
next
encampment.
Thank
you.
G
Thank
you
on
the
pcso
point
that
you
made
the
the
mayor's
commitment
to
appoint.
750
police
up
frontline
police
officers
and
staff
obviously
includes
pcsos
the
I
said
earlier.
G
I
would
provide
data
of
the
extra
recruitment
that
we've
done
so
far
and
I'll
include
pcsos
in
that
we
are
above
the
target
at
this
point
in
time
for
the
number
of
extra
pcsos
that
we're
appointing
in
terms
of
deploying
the
pcsos
that
becomes
an
operational
policing
decision
for
the
chief
constable,
although
obviously
the
mayor
holds
the
chief
constable
to
account
for
aware,
you
know
how
he
deploys
his
resources
in
terms
of
the
motorcycle
asb.
G
I
mentioned
earlier
that
we'd
put
a
bid
in
for
the
safer
streets
for
funding
518
000
pounds
of
that
is
to
be
devoted
towards
motorcycle,
enabled
crime
and
asb
across
west
yorkshire.
Now
that's
not
confirmed
yet,
but
obviously
that
will
that
will
help
a
great
deal.
If,
if
we're
successful
in
that,
I
would
like
to
pass
over
to
my
colleague
chief
inspector
hall,
to
pick
up
a
little
bit
more
about
motorcycle
asb
and
the
point
about
travellers
that
you
made
that's:
okay,
okay,.
H
Good
morning,
thank
you
yeah.
The
second
point:
around
asp
motorbikes.
In
leeds
alone,
we
had
3500
calls
last
year
around
asb
motorbikes
in
the
east
of
leeds
alone,
we
had
600
motorbikes,
stolen
and
predominantly
those
are
driven
rounds
used
in
antisocial
way
and
you're
quite
right
to
raise
it
with
us
and
I'm
glad
you're
actually
giving
a
quick
update
around
how
I
saw
it
was
a
big
issue.
H
You
said
before,
we
do
have
a
really
good
relationship
with
leed
city
council
and
again
it's
one
of
their
biggest
issues
as
well,
because
somebody
on
a
motorbike
driving
around
an
estate
really
does
affect
your
community
confidence.
So
I've
invested
in
another
sergeant
in
that
role.
For
the
moment
to
really
look
at
the
focus
of
taking
bikes
off
people,
we
won't
be
giving
any
bikes
back.
I'd
be
very
disappointed
if
we
ever
do
give
a
bike
back,
because
the
majority
of
them
either
stolen
or
using
any
social
behavior
way.
H
What
what
we
were
doing
before
is
probably
responding
to
them
really
difficult
with
our
powers
is
we
can't
knock
people
off
motorbikes?
That's
quite
right
that
we
can.
We
can't
drive
dangerously
to
knock
other
people
off,
so
I've
had
to
have
a
look
at
our
tactics
and
they're
predominantly
using
your
intelligence
and
going
to
these
addresses,
whilst
they're
packed
outside
or
catching
them.
When
the
park
took
quite
a
lot
of
success
recently
with
them,
we've
done
some
warrants
and
various
other
stuff.
H
A
few
of
them
have
been
publicized
where
we're
going
after
the
stolen
banks,
we
recovered
12
the
other
day,
just
just
stolen
and
recovered.
So
ultimately,
we
need
to
invest
in
that
area
of
business,
which
I
have
with
a
sergeant.
We're
going
to
use
the
ssf4
funding
to
increase
the
motorbikes
and
and
look
at
using
plane
motorbikes.
H
We
can
creep
up
to
people
and
we're
also
going
to
invest
some
pcsos
in
there
as
well,
so
we
can
drop
them
in
and
do
the
high
visibility
patrol
speaking
to
the
communities
gaining
the
intelligence
where
the
people
are
driving
on
the
streets.
So
you
definitely
point
to
raise
for
me
it's
one
of
my
main
priorities
on
the
neighborhoods.
H
Do
it?
Is
it
one
of
the
main
things
that's
raised
in
every
community
meeting
I
go
to
yeah.
Do
I
see
them
as
I'm,
because
I
live
in
bradford
way
when
I'm
going
back
through
bradford
whizzing
past
me,
yeah,
just
just
a
difficult
area
that
we're
going
to
focus
on
and
take
them
down
with
success
with
the
plane
with
the
west
church.
We
don't.
H
We
have
an
impasse
plane
that
was
flying
over
the
other
day
in
beast
and
picked
up
on
a
motorbike,
and
we
followed
them
back
to
their
address
and
took
the
bike
off
it.
So
there's
loads
of
different
tactics
that
we
need
to
use
and
just
really
focus
on
it.
Are
there
any
questions
about
that
one?
Before
I
move
on
to
the
traveler
question.
N
Yeah
briefly,
one
bit
I
did
mean
to
comment
on
is,
I
know
particularly
leeds
south
and
east
are
very
active
on
facebook
in
terms
of
putting
out
the
proactive
stuff
that
they
are
doing,
and
I
think
that's
a
really
really
powerful
way
of,
because
you
know
whether
you're
a
politician
or
a
police
or,
if
you're,
any
public
service.
N
Your
comments
are
what
you're
doing
about
it
and
actually
people
people
pushing
that
out
there
you
know,
enables
me
as
a
counselor
to
say:
well,
here's
what's
happening,
and
it
sees
people
see
tangible
results,
and
that's
really.
I
really.
I
really
appreciate
that
it
makes
my
job
easier
and
I
encourage
that
to
continue
because
it's
tangible
and
fit,
and
physical
on
the
tracking
has
anything
been
looked
at
in
terms
of
using
drone
technology
to
track.
So
it's
a
less
invasive
way
of
of
monitoring
and
tracking.
H
As
it
would
happen,
that's
part
of
the
bid
is:
is
the
drones,
the
difficulties
with
our
responsibilities
with
the
drones
that
can
only
go
so
far
because
if,
if
we
lose
them
or
they
drop
out
the
sky
or
do
various
other
stuff,
but
you're
right,
it's
one
of
our
tactics-
and
it
was
part
of
the
bid-
is
to
train
people
because
we
have
to
be
licensed
and
then
to
buy
the
drones
as
well.
H
A
H
Travelers,
yes,
again,
prolific
issue,
probably
50
of
my
daily
work.
I'll
just
pick
up
on
a
couple
of
points.
H
We
can't
use
their
previous
behavior
to
remove
them
from
certain
areas,
so
the
powers
have
have
changed,
which
makes
it
easier
for
us
to
to
move
travelers
on
before
it
was
about
significant
damage
and
significant
disruption
to
communities
so
that
has
been
removed.
H
But
the
issue
have
at
the
moment
is:
unless
there's
enough
places
for
the
travelers
to
be
able
to
be
directed
to
to
live,
we
can't
use
the
section
62
power
which
which
removes
them
from
the
area
for
a
certain
time,
so
ultimately,
as
the
police,
if
there
was
more
places
for
the
travelers
to
stay
in
leeds,
we
could
use
stricter
powers,
so
we
use
the
section
61s,
we'll
probably
be
using
them
more
now
now
the
significance
has
changed,
and
I
know
particularly
in
the
south
area.
H
We
probably
didn't
get
it
right
on
a
couple
of
occasions
and
probably
should
have
acted
a
bit
sooner
on
the
on
your
community
intelligence.
But
I've
got
a
co-op
of
inspectors
that
all
know
the
powers
all
work
really
closely
with
the
council
and
we'll
probably
act
on
them
sooner.
H
We
have
the
traveller
lays
officer
that
knows
them
really
well
and
will
know
and
recognize
people
are
moving
around
but
understand
how
difficult
they
are,
but
if
they're
in
a
community,
we
can't
act
on
the
previous
of
how
they've
been,
but
we
do
need
to
listen
to
communities
sooner
on
some
of
them,
but
the
powers
have
changed
and
probably
made
it
slightly
easier
for
us
to
be
able
to
justify
using
our
powers
correctly
moving
people
on.
N
Yeah,
I
probably
don't
need
to
answer
this
unless
you
want
to
but
yeah
the
point
on
the
former
behavior
in
terms
of
follow-up
wasn't
particularly
for
the
section
61
sort
of
eviction
notice,
which
I
know
is
difficult,
is
it's
more.
H
Yeah,
thank
you.
It
it's
quite
a
transient
population,
which
is
the
difficulties,
don't
just
stick
to
leads.
We
we
obviously
use
our
intelligence
systems,
use
our
travel
laser
officer
and
the
partners
in
the
council.
So
we
we
always
monitor.
People
like
we
would
and
we
do
particularly
if
somebody's
committing
crime,
we
really
try
and
focus
on
them,
but
really
good
point
raised,
and
I
would
hope
you've
now
got
the
relationship
with
your
mpt
inspector
to
raise
any
issues
you
have
sooner
and
quicker
and
act
on
it.
A
L
L
I
know
that
on
my
particular
state,
you
are
targeting
the
off-road
banks,
but
you
are
patrolling
in
the
huge
fan
possible
and
so
of
course,
residents
say
to
me:
they'll
never
get
down
again
with
that
ban,
and
now
you
say,
you're
actually
patrolling
with
a
plane
which,
ultimately
probably
in
beeson,
would
be
noticed,
but
in
my
area
wouldn't
be
because
a
plane
in
the
sky,
a
mile
and
a
half
from
the
airport
is
something
that
we're
completely
used
to.
L
We
might
think
of
it
being
off
track
and
think
that
shouldn't
be
there,
but
we
wouldn't
immediately
think
it
was
you
that
was
doing
it.
And
so
it's
how
you
communicate
what
you're
doing,
because
we're
not
going
to
notice
and
you're
going
to
get
an
adverse
effect.
Because
I
know
when
I
go
to
residence
meetings.
L
This
van
has
been
patrolling
and
I
know
you're
looking
for
the
off-road
bikes,
because
I'm
privy
to
information
of
who
you
think
it
is
and
where
you
think
it
is,
but
you
won't
actually
catch
it,
probably
with
the
van
but
you're
not
intending
catching
it
you're
intending
identifying
where
it
is
and
then
you're
going
to
go
and
and
take
it.
And
I
appreciate
all
that,
but
the
general
public
out
there
and
the
public
that
come
to
residence
meetings.
L
Don't
appreciate
that
and
don't
get
feedback
from
you
and
your
officers
in
that
amount
of
detail
which
is
what's
required
to
make
sure
that
you're
getting
the
credit
for
what
you're
doing
and
the
other
issue
is
around
what
you
would
cause
as
minor
crime,
kids
going
on
rooms
with
breaking
slaves,
kids,
knocking
the
wall
down
and
and
drug
dealing
at
a
minor
level,
and
I
know
a
drug
deal
when
you
are
looking
for
the
higher
up
the
chain
of
people
and
and
all
this
information
is
fed
in.
L
But
ultimately
the
public
want
from
us
and
from
you,
neighborhood
policing,
something
to
be
done
about
it
or
to
know
you're
doing
something
about
it,
and
the
fact
is
that
it
doesn't
always
go
away
because
you
can't
be
there
all
the
time.
But
it's
how
it's
it's
more,
how
you
communicate
all
this
back
to
people.
I
appreciate
you
having
an
issue
with
not
losing
your
thread
of
capture
of
people
and
also
not
identifying
individuals
who
may
be
innocent.
L
H
No
thank
you
for
raising
that
point.
When
I
first
came
into
the
role
I'd
I'd
come
from
bradford
for
many
years
and
we
had
an
operation
around
off-road,
my
backs.
I
forget
the
name,
sorry
at
the
top
of
my
head,
just
focusing
on
off-road
mode
to
bikes,
asp,
quads
and
that
sort
of
stuff
and
and
their
name
was
used
in
every
part
of
media
and
social
media.
That's
the
first
thing
I've
said
to
my
team
last
week
was
how
we
publicizing
what
we're
doing,
and
I
don't
think
we
do.
H
We
don't
publicize
it
enough
and
well,
and
social
media
and
various
other
stuff.
But
I
suppose
my
big
request
is:
if,
if
we're
sending
and
you
know
what's
occurring,
is
you
could
tell
your
communities
as
well
and
share
it
between
us
and
just
really
communicate?
Because
we
talk
about
how
to
reach
communities?
No
community
is
hard
to
reach
we're
just
not
doing
it
properly
to
them.
H
So
it's
whether
we're
going
to
pack
meetings
of
various
other
ways
to
tell
people
of
what
we're
doing,
because
you're
right,
we
have
a
small
team
that
that
scores
quite
highly
recovering
bikes
and
doing
stuff,
and
we
just
need
to
communicate
it
out
better.
So
we're
open
to
ideas
how
you
want
to
share
it,
whether
we
share
it
through
you,
various
other
people,
tasking
meetings,
the
more
the
merrier
that
people
hear
about
it,
the
better
for
me.
A
L
Yeah,
there's
there's
a
bit
of
a
two-way
street
there.
We
have
to
be
clear
what
you
want
us
to
share,
because
because,
ultimately,
I'm
I'm
reluctant
to
share
that
you've
been
patrolling
in
the
van
looking
for
off-road
bikes,
because
if
I
share
that
on
facebook
I
will
get
they're
never
going
to
catch
up
with
the
van
now.
If
I
share
the
stuff
that
I
know,
then
your
officers
would
say
we
wish
you
and
shared
that
because
you're
compromising
our
inquiries.
So
I
think
there
has
to
be
some
clarity.
L
I
take
the
belief
that
elected
members
should
be
aware
of
everything
that
they
possibly
can
be
in
their
wards,
but
they
have
to
take
responsibility
for
not
always
sharing
things.
I've
been
a
counselor
a
long
time,
and
you
know
I've
been
privy
to
things
about
people
which
I
wouldn't
share
to
my
other
half
and
keep
that
talk
to
myself,
and
I
think
elected
members
have
a
duty
to
do
that
on
occasion
when
they're
asked
to.
L
But
if
you're
asking
to
share
everything
we
know,
then
we
will
do
but
don't
complain
if
we,
if
we
don't.
If
we
share
things
you
don't
want
us
to
share,
I
think
there
has
to
be
some
clarity,
I'm
quite
happy
for
you
to
put
it
on
facebook
and
also
spread
it
around
the
groups.
That's
that's
fine,
but
if
you're
wanting
us
to
to
just
share
what
we've
gleaned
from
officers
when
we've
been
out
with
officers
or
seen
officers
out
that
have
spoken
to
us,
then
that's
up
to
you.
H
No
thank
you
for
that
feedback.
Yeah.
Somebody
just
reminded
me:
it's
operation
stateside
in
bradford.
What
what
highlighted
to
me
was.
We
did
a
joint
operation
in
the
councillors
area,
council,
cars
area,
where
upstairs
side
publicized
how
many
motorbikes
had
recovered.
We
didn't
in
leeds,
and
I
think
it
was
your
area
and
so
stayside
in
bradford
said.
They've
done
some
great
work
when
it
was
our
leads
officers
as
well
so
you're
right.
We
we
do
need
to
have
a
better
comms
plan
to
tell
you
what
we'd
like
you
to
share
for
us.
H
B
Thanks
chair,
thank
you.
My
questions
around
the
vision,
zero
strategy.
I
just
I'm
aware
that,
in
my
own
ward
of
army
were
still
having
serious
threats
to
pedestrians
from
both
high-level
vehicle
behaviors,
so
speeding
and
dangerous
driving
and
also
low-level
vehicle
behaviors
like
obstructions
and
inconsiderate
parking.
B
I
just
wondered
how
much
the
op
snap
portal
data
is
feeding
into
this
and
whether
whether
there
are
other
ways
that
the
communities
can
be
feeding
in
in
terms
of
these
issues
and
also,
I
just
wondered
whether
we're
collecting
any
data
on
on
pet
deaths
as
well,
because
I
know
that
in
a
lot
of
our
communities
on
some
of
the
on
some
of
the
roads,
we're
having
a
lot
of
pet
deaths
due
to
speeding
and
dangerous
driving,
which
I
know
won't
be
covered
under
our
pedestrian
killed
and
seriously
injured
data.
G
Thank
you
and
vision,
vision.
Zero
is
it's
a
partnership
with
local
partners,
the
police,
local
authorities,
the
casualty
reduction
partnership
aimed
at
eliminating
traffic
fatalities
and
severe
injuries,
and
it's
the
the
vision
zero
board
is
chaired
by
our
deputy
mayor.
It
was
set
up
towards
the
end
of
last
year
and
at
the
moment
the
the
work
is
ongoing
to
develop
the
strategy
and
to
set
the
baseline
look
at
the
baseline
data
that
we
need
to
work
on
going
forward.
G
O
Just
back
to
quad
bikes
this,
this
might
well
be
completely
off-piste
and
mad
and
impossible,
but
sometimes
it's
worth
just
thinking
outside
the
box.
It
would
it
be
at
all
conceivable
to
start
to
push
for
national
legislation.
O
That
would
mean-
and
I
hesitate
for
sayings-
it
might
become
insane
that,
for
example,
every
quad
bike
is
installed
with
a
device
and
it
has
to
you
know
you
can't
sell
a
sell
or
you
can't
sell
a
quad
bike
in
this
country
unless
it
has
such
a
device
which
could
be
basically,
it
could
be
such
a
way
that
if
the
police
were
chasing
a
particular
quad
bike,
you
would
have
a
device
where
you
can
basically
remotely
make
that
quad
bike
speed
right
down
to.
O
I
don't
know
like
five
miles
an
hour
or
something,
and
then
the
quad
bike
drivers
will
be
mightily,
disappointed
that
they
can't
then
speed
away.
As
I
said,
apologies
I'm
not
a
mechanic.
It
could
be
completely
mad.
It
could
be
legislatively
impossible,
but
it'd
just
be
interesting
to
try
to
do
that.
G
I'm
not
a
mechanic
either,
so
I
don't
know
whether
that's
possible,
but
certainly
it's
something
that
the
mayor
can
can
pick
up
to
pick
up
and
you
know
and
raise
with
the
new
policing
minister.
I
think.
N
Yeah
somebody
grew
up
in
the
80s
and
90s,
with
hack
text
boxes
and
various
other
hardware.
I
think
there'd
be
a
thriving
industry
and
deactivating
said
devices
as
soon
as
they
were
installed.
So
I
it's
a
really
good
idea,
but
I
think
remote
kill
switches
yeah
by
nature.
If
it's
a
switch,
then
you
can
deactivate
a
switch,
so
I
think
it
would
be
challenging
to
to
to
do
and
obviously
it
wouldn't
address
the
already
kind
of
you
know.
Thousands
of
these
vehicles
are
already
out
there,
but
it's
a
great
it's
a
great
idea.
A
But
it's
obviously
something
that
maybe
needs
to
be
looked
at
as
to
how
that
type
of
thing
could
be
achieved
by
using
something
like
that,
because
that
would
be
one
of
the
councilwords
worth.
L
Just
just
on
on
that
point
I
mean
it's
really
very
difficult
for
you
to
implement
that,
because
I
mean
you're
struggling
at
the
moment
to
implement
the
capture
of
scooters
that
which
shouldn't
be
used
on
a
public
road
at
all,
and
you
know
you're
struggling
to
actually
capture
them
and
I
only
come
in
this
morning.
I
saw
one
riding
in
a
cycle
lane
and
then
continue
into
a
bustling
which
has
a
camera
on
it,
but
I
don't
think
that
recipient
will
be
caught
because
you
know
we're
catching
them.
L
So
whilst
I
do
share
your
view
to
get
it
done,
I
think
that
they
would
be
removed
pretty
quickly,
but
it's
the
purpose
of
whether
people
should
have
a
quad
bike.
If
they
don't
have
a
use
for
a
quad
bike,
should
they
actually
be
able
to
have
one
if
they
don't
have
the
land
to
ride
it
on
I
know
some
are
all
legal,
but
a
lot
of
them
that
are
causing
the
problems
are
not
road
legal,
but
it
was
just
a
comment.
Okay,
yeah.
A
No,
that's
fine,
because
the
can.
F
Thank
you,
chad,
mine's,
on
different
topic.
Actually,
it's
reporting
and
you
know
any
tenants,
meeting
residence
meeting
top
of
the
list
is
the
crime.
F
You
know
police
issue
as
well
and
we
tend
to
encourage
residents
to
phone
in
101
is
very,
very
difficult
number
and
when
we
tell
our
residents
you
know
you
need
to
report
in,
and
this
is
oh,
it's
a
waste
of
time
councillors
and,
as
you
know,
the
ward
I
represent
burma
from
richmond
hills
is
one
of
the
most
deprived
world
in
the
city
of
leeds
and
there's
a
less
of
people
online
as
well.
F
There's
digital
and
the
cost
of
living
is
affecting
a
lot
of
people
to
top
up
their
mobile
phone
to
go
online.
So
my
question
has
that
been
improved
on
the
positive
news?
I
know
we've
been
talking
about
the
quad
bikes.
F
One
is
the
nuisance
vehicles
consultations
going
out
at
the
moment
that
is
going
to
be
really
welcome
in
local
residents.
The
world
I
represent
as
well,
and
we've
got
large
vehicle
that
cause
nuisance
in
our
areas,
so
without
consultation.
We
are
encouraging
our
residents
to
take
part
in
that
consultation,
and
I
welcome
council
cooper
that
initiative.
You
know
so.
My
question
is
in
the
101
number:
has
that
been
improved
or
is
it
just
the
same
that
perception
and
how
we're
going
to
be
marketing
now
in
the
community?
G
Yes,
I
think
it's
an
on
101
and
999
call
handling
are
ongoing
challenges
for
all
police
forces
and
it's
something
that's
monitored
really
closely
by
west
yorkshire,
police
and
I
can
provide.
I
can
bring
back
I'll,
send
back
another
report
with
more
information
on
that,
for
you,
they've,
obviously
had
very
high
demand.
G
Recently
the
force
have
tried
to
bring
in
alternative
ways
of
contacting
the
police
to
take
the
demand
off
the
phone
systems,
but
you
know
by
online
chat
and
messaging,
but
obviously
that
requires
you
to
have
access
to
the
internet
and
not
not
everybody
has
so
it's.
I
will
bring
back
the
data
on
the
call
handling,
because
there
is
also
something
that's
reported
regularly
to
the
as
part
of
the
performance,
information
to
the
police
and
crime
panel
and
and
then
you
you
can
raise.
M
Thank
you
chair,
so
one
thing
that
hasn't
come
up
yet
today
is
the
the
gangs
that
we
seem
to
be.
We
seem
to
be
getting.
I'm
guessing,
they'll
be
dealt
with
under
the
violence
reduction
unit.
M
So
that's
that's
one
thing,
however,
as
councillor
carter
rightly
points
out,
pudsey
does
have
its
fair
share
of
antisocial
behavior
we've
had
some
drug
crime,
and
I
was,
I
was
actually
quite
amused
at
the
the
idea
that
we
were
leafy
and
green
and
and
we
didn't
have
any
poverty
or
deprivation.
To
be
honest,
we
do
have
an
awful
lot
of
poverty
and
deprivation
within
our
ward,
there's
no
hiding
from
it
and
and
we
we
do
need
to.
M
We
do
need
to
get
a
handle
on
on
the
gangs,
and
most
of
it
is
is
leading
back
to
drugs.
The
county
lines,
the
young
people
that
are
being
involved
are
now
whizzing
about
on
electric
scooters,
so
it
you
know
all
of
the
things
that
have
been
mentioned
today
all
seem
to
stem
from
the
one
or
very
few
issues.
M
It's
it's
it's
the
kind
of
the
the
drug
culture,
the
young
people
are
being
recruited
and
then
it's
all
escalating,
and
it
does
seem
to
be
coming
up
from
that.
So
you
know
how:
how
does
the
violence
reduction
unit
interact
with
the
young
people
and
the
schools
and
the
education
piece
to
try
and
catch
them
at
a
very
early
age,
to
actually
stop
an
awful
lot
of
what
we've
all
been
speaking
about
today,.
G
That
is
one
of
the
priorities
in
the
violence
production
unit
and
the
team
work
very
closely
with
schools
with
the
police
and
they
sit
on.
They
work
very
closely
with
the
police's
program,
precision,
operation
and
you're
right.
It
is
often
linked
to
drugs
and
counter
lines.
G
The
government
has
issued
guidance
recently
setting
out
the
national
combating
drugs
outcomes
framework
and
has
asked
local
areas
to
form
a
partnership
working
with
people
in
organisation
that
are
affected
by
drugs,
but
a
senior
responsible
officer
to
represent
partnership
locally,
and
this
is
in
in
progress
at
the
minute
in
west
yorkshire,
we're
pulling
together
a
partnership
group
which
we
will
be
involved
in
as
well
the
police
and
csp
to
to
to
work
on
that
10-year
drug
strategy
going
forward,
but
you're
right.
G
They,
these
things,
don't
happen
in
isolation
and
they
are
all
connected
and
the
violence
reduction
units
early
intervention
approach
is
is
focused
on
trying
to
avoid.
You
know
that
that's
developing
in
the
first
place,
but
obviously
there
is
some
work
to
be
done
on
on
the
for,
what's
already
in
place,
what's
already
been
established,.
A
Thank
you,
mr
money.
K
Yeah
thanks
chad,
I
just
thought,
be
helpful
to
to
to
kind
of
reference
and
julie
harris.
Actually,
the
significance
of
partnership
working
on
on
this
particular
agenda,
and
I
think
the
line
of
questioning
is,
is
developing
very
much
down
the
lines
of
you
know.
What's
causing
some
of
our
significant
issues
in
in
communities
that
are
represented
by
by
members
here
today
and
others,
and
when
we
get
on
to
the
kind
of
broader
community
safety
update.
Perhaps
we
can.
K
A
Thank
you
right.
I'm
going
to
bring
this
up
this
particular
item
to
a
conclusion.
Thank
you
for
your
comments
and
questions
and
julie.
Welcome
paul
was
very
full
of
praise
for
you,
as
he
was
part
of
the
selection
panel.
So
you
came
with
a
lot
of
positive
information
to
me
about
how
good
you
were,
and
you've
lived
up
to
the
comments
that
mr
money
has
made.
So
thank
you
very
much
for
coming
along,
and
hopefully
you
have
a
long
and
fruitful
time.
A
So
if
we
can
now
move
on
to
item
eight,
the
safer,
stronger
communities
so
paul,
are
you
leading
on
this
or
are
you
or
have
you
delegated
it
to
one
of
your
team
as
a
good
manager?
It
normally
does.
K
Chair,
if
I
maybe
just
just
spent
a
couple
of
minutes,
just
covering
some
context
around
the
report
that
the
colleagues
can
see
starting
at
page
51
and
then
it
might
be
helpful,
depending
depending
on
you
know,
which
which
elements
of
the
report
of
most
interest
to
delve
into
some
specific
areas
and,
as
you've
rightly
said,
there's
a
representation
from
my
team
in
terms
of
the
leadership
of
a
number
of
the
priorities
that
are
referenced
there.
But
yeah.
I
think
what
you.
K
What
members
will
see
at
page
51
is
a
is
a
narrative
report
detailing
the
the
current
work
and
indeed
some
of
the
threats
in
relation
to
the
priorities
within
the
community
safety
strategy.
K
I
know
members
won't
mind
me
reminding
them
about
the
significant
role
that
members
and
this
board
in
particular
played
as
we
as
we
developed
our
community,
our
leeds
community
safety
strategy,
because,
as
part
of
the
consultation
process,
this
this
this
border
members
represented
today
were
were
very
helpful
in
terms
of
helping
to
shape
the
the
identification
of
those
priority
issues
and
the
work
that
that
that
we're
embarking
upon
the
other
thing
to
mention.
K
On
top
of
the
consultation
is
that
we
benefit
in
in
in
in
leads
working
with
a
performance
in
intelligence
units,
that's
funded
and
staffed
in
partnership,
both
in
respect
of
leeds
city,
council,
analytical
support
and
also
west
yorkshire,
police,
analytical
support,
and
we
find
that's
really
helpful
in
terms
of
the
work
that
was
done
and
in
respect
of
the
strategy.
K
We
did
undertake
a
strategic
needs
assessment.
Looking
exactly
at
the
data
that
a
number
of
members
have
referenced
here
to
help
identify
what
the
priorities
were
and
the
priorities
were
really
identified
on
the
back
of
that
work
and
also
an
assessment
that
we
make
in
terms
of
the
the
kind
of
threat
and
the
harm
that
these
particular
issues
are
causing
and
a
number
of
them
have
been
referenced
already
in
the
conversation.
K
So,
as
I
said,
we
can,
we
can.
We
can
go
through
those
priority
issues,
as,
as
members
of
this
board
see
see
fit.
Julie
has
referenced
already
the
significant
work
that
we
do
do
working
at
a
west
yorkshire
level
in
a
number
of
areas.
K
So
I
wouldn't
necessarily
wish
to
repeat
all
that,
but
we
do
work
very
closely
with
with
julie
and
her
team
on
some
of
those
strategic
themes
that
are
impacting
on
leeds
and
other
other
areas
in
in
west
georgia
in
particular,
and
we
do
work
very
closely
on
on
those
funding
opportunities
that
arise,
and
I
think
it
was
the
shared
prosperity
fund
that
was
mentioned
by
julie.
Over
and
above
the
work
we
would
do
from
a
leeds
point
of
view
with
our
colleagues
in
west
yorkshire.
K
We
also
work
very
close
with
our
own
commissioners
around
around
around
looking
to
secure
as
much
financial
support
as
we
can
for
some
of
the
challenges
that
that
we
know
we're
all
working
on.
I
think
the
other.
K
The
other
point
to
reference
is
the
significance
of
neighborhood
policing
in
in
leeds
and
indeed
across
west
yorkshire,
but
it's
great
to
to
have
pete
here,
because
you
know
in
terms
of
the
link
and
the
partnership
work,
that
my
team
were
involved
in
front
and
center
of
this
in
terms
of
partnership
is,
is,
is
our
neighborhood
policing
resource?
K
So
that's
quite
significant.
The
other
couple
of
points
to
reference,
if
I
may
is,
is
whilst
we're
here
predominantly
talking
about
the
the
work
of
safer,
leads
now
and
and
that
work
feeds
into
the
surface
executive.
There
are
a
number
of
other
governance
arrangements
where
community
safety
issues,
often
often
land
and
just
kind
of
reference.
K
Those
one
would
be
our
strategic
contest
strategy,
which
is
around
some
of
the
counter-terrorism
work
that
goes
on
in
the
city,
particularly
in
relation
to
prevent
and
the
emergence
of
the
protector
arrangements
in
the
city
which
are
around
keeping
people
safe
and
the
safer
roads
partnership
has
been
referenced
already
has
been
a
significant
sort
of
parallel
board
that
we
work
very
closely
with.
In
addition
to
that,
in
effect,
safer
leads
is
one
of
three
safeguarding
statutory
boards
in
the
city.
K
Obviously,
our
colleagues
in
children's
services
and
in
adult
social
care
have
similar
safeguarding
arrangements,
and
we
work
very
closely
across
those
those
three
boards
in
terms
of
coordinating
the
work
that
we
do.
K
I
think
the
other
thing
to
reference,
which
is,
I
think,
still
new
in
terms
of
an
annual
update,
is
the
is
the
development
that
we
saw
around
the
merging
of
the
communities
team
and
the
safer
leads
team,
and
I
think
it
was
councillor
khan
and
council
rakhtar
who
specifically
referenced
equality,
diversity,
inclusion
and
and
as
a
consequence
of
the
merging
of
our
of
our
services,
we
feel
better
able
to
be
able
to
ensure
that
the
services
that
have
been
delivered
across
the
community
safety
agenda
do
accord
with
the
with
the
with
the
equality,
diversity,
inclusion,
strategy
and
approach
that
we'd
expect
to
see
both
in
terms
of
consulting
and
engaging
with
communities
and
also
ensuring
that
the
services
are
edi
compliant.
K
In
that
sense,
the
last
thing
before
before
I
I
I
pause
is
that
the
approach
that
that
we
look
to
progress
primarily
in
the
delivery
of
activity
under
the
priorities
is
one
that
seeks
to
be
problem
solving
invariably
in
in
a
partnership
context
and
early
intervention.
K
We'd
rather
be
preventing
than
responding
to
to
a
number
of
the
issues
and
and
the
approach
that
we
we
adopt
in
terms
of
the
data
you
know
and
the
and
and
what
the
data's
telling
us
in
terms
of
where
we
need
to
shape
our
services
is
very
much
around
being
intelligence,
led
scanning
analyzing,
the
data
that
we've
got
responding
and
then
assessing
the
impact
and
a
number
of
colleagues
will
talk
about
that
approach.
If
they
get
the
opportunity
within
the
priority,
work
streams
that
they're
that
they're
currently
engaged
in.
A
H
Good
morning,
thank
you,
so
he
just
got
me
off
the
hop
pop
him
straight
to
appendix
3.
I
like
it
now.
Firstly,
thank
you
to
all
for
having
me
here,
but
it's
good
to
recognize
all
the
names
that
are
challenging
my
mpt
inspectors
and
particularly
building
on
our
relationships
just
to
follow
up
on
what
paul
said.
We
probably
have
the
best
and
have
worked
in
various
locations
across
west
yorkshire,
the
best
relationship
with
council
and
the
council
that
I've
seen
anywhere
else
because
we
get
stuff
done
between
us.
Sometimes
it's
not
our
responsibility.
H
It's
not
the
council's
responsibility,
but
we'll
get
it
done
together,
because
it's
key
on
keeping
the
community
safe
I'll
I'll,
just
set
a
little
bit
context
of
how
we
set
out
in
leeds
just
but
you'll
have
read
the
report,
but
we
have
superintendent
dan
wood,
who's
in
charge
of
neighborhoods
and
partnerships
who's.
My
boss,
who
quite
rightly
looks
at
partnerships
and
neighborhoods.
So
we
can
move
resources
and
sort
of
look
at
where
the
focus
needs
to
be,
and
I
predominantly
look
after
neighborhoods
and
integrated
management.
H
I
have
seven
inspectors,
six
neighborhood
inspectors
and
one
that's
at
the
iom.
They
tell
me
they
have
really
good
relationships
with
the
counselors,
like
I
said,
and
it's
probably
the
best
I've
seen
in
certain
areas.
The
feedback
they
give
me
is
is
excellent.
The
co-op
is
the
strongest
of
inspectors.
H
I've
worked
with,
and
hopefully
they've
got
good
relationships
with
you,
and
I
said,
our
relationship
with
the
safer
community
team
is
excellent,
so
the
context
that
I'm
working
with
so
I
arrived
in
january,
just
at
the
end
of
covid
and
returning
to
back
to
normality,
we've
probably
seen
pre-covered
levels
of
asb
crime
disorder
and,
like
I
said,
turning
back
to
normality,
this
also
comes
back
into
the
us
having
to
particularly
look
at
the
problem,
solving
policing
and
looking
at
our
calls
for
service,
so
approach
using
neighbourhood.
H
Tasking
again,
thank
you.
Chair
got
some
feedback
around
our
tasking
recently
from
yourself
looks
at
how
do
we
best
deploy
our
resources
which
which
have
reduced
to
look
at
our
threats
and
best
protect
victims?
H
In
the
report,
it
mentions
holtomor
and
bramley
that
were
probably
increasing
issues
for
us
across
that
we've
worked
with
lidocis
our
partners
to
to
really
look
at.
How
do
we
reduce
our
demand
and
move
on
from
that
domestic
violence?
We
we
have
a
daily
risk
assessment
meeting
that
really
looks
at
who
our
main
offenders
are
and
how
do
we
support
our
victims?
H
Also,
our
hate
crime
had
an
increase
of
22
percent
over
the
last
year
reported
incidents.
We
we
see
it
as
a
bit
of
a
success
as
well.
People
coming
towards
us
being
more
open,
honest
and
happy
to
tell
us
what's
what's
occurring
on
the
downside
of
that,
we've
had
a
52
increase
on
our
hate
crime
against
our
police
officers,
so
you
can
see
what
they're
up
to
daily.
So
one
of
the
councillors
just
mentioned
illicit
drugs
and
substances
and
gangs.
H
We've
we've
up
test
up
skilled
our
testers
in
the
cells
to
see
our
drugs
testing
about
a
85
increase
in
drugs
testing.
So
if
you
come
in
for
an
offense,
we
can
drugs
test
you
for
certain
powers
and
52
of
these
people,
that
we're
testing
is
positive
for
cocaine
and
opiates.
So
you
can
see
what
we're
up
against.
In
ourselves.
H
I
have
a
small,
dedicated
little
team
who
just
looks
at
our
neighborhood
issues
and
there's
a
couple
of
examples
in
the
last
couple
of
months,
tackling
our
organized
crime
groups
that
have
just
recovered
in
cash,
350
000
pounds
in
cash
that
was
just
in
their
back
garden
and
heroin,
and
that's
all
the
back
of
community
intelligence
from
one
of
the
councillors
areas.
That's
in
here
we're
looking
at
offender
behaviours
as
well.
H
This
particular
focus
is
the
liaison
and
diversion
and
really
getting
into
people
sooner
before
they
get
into
the
crime,
and
that's
where
the
vru
and
the
youth
violence
particularly
kicks
into.
So
we
aren't
ignoring
it
and
we're
particularly
working
on
that
at
the
moment,
but
we're
also
looking
at
the
side
of
it.
The
catch
and
control
side,
where
we've
had
65
offenders
that
have
come
out
of
jail,
that
we've
put
back
in
jail
because
they're
either
reoffending
or
continuing
to
not
meet
their
conditions.
H
We
do
have
gangs
and
we
do
focus
on
them.
We've
mentioned
them
in
here
the
niners,
the
37s
also
three
sevens.
They
don't
just
drug
deal
in
the
east
of
leeds
to
move
across
the
whole
of
leeds
and
target.
They
also
do
cross
border
nationally
and
and
very
far
across
the
country.
The
home
secretary
was
in
our
office
of
the
week
discussing
it
and
highlight
the
issues
that
leeds
is
involved
in
drug
dealing
across
the
country
and
what
we
can
do
to
target
it.
Neighborhood
wise.
We
we
target
the
gangs.
H
H
Leeds
does
have
a
strong
cohort
of
officers
across
our
district
that
can
spot
people
who
are
moving
into
that
that
we
need
to
focus
on
these
champions
sort
of
focus
on.
How
do
we
get
people
away
from
that
crime?
H
H
At
the
moment,
we
we
are
seeing
an
increase
of
violence
compared
to
the
coveted
times
and
probably
more
serious
violence
and
that's
what
we
need
to
focus
on.
So
I
know
we
talked
about
the
small
crime
a
moment
ago
with
people
throwing
slates
off
rules
and
damage
and
stuff
that
that's
really
important
to
us,
but
really
focusing
on
the
youth,
violence
and
and
dealing
with
them,
particularly
but
the
asb
and
the
issues
that
we've
seen
across
the
communities
we've
dealt
with
it
together
as
partnerships
and
then
I'll
just
cover
the
melania
miscellaneous.
H
Sorry,
we
have
got
vacancies
across
our
neighborhood
areas,
which
probably
won't
be
addressed
till
the
autumn.
Our
chief
constable
is
very
clear
that
the
extra
police
officer
is
talking
about
that.
We
are
coming
we'll
come
to
leeds
and
we
will
get
our
proportion
of
officers,
but
it
takes
time
to
recruit
and
time
to
get
them
through.
So
we
have
to
maintain
our
safeguarding
resilience
because
that's
where
the
most
vulnerable
people
are
and
likewise
on
our
patrols.
H
You
want
us
to
be
able
to
answer
our
999
calls,
so
our
vacancy
factors-
probably
twenty
percent
on
our
neighborhoods.
We
will
fill
them
we'll
backfill
them,
but
but
it's
a
challenge
and
it's
a
challenge
for
me
to
where
do
we
put
the
resources
and
it's
got
to
be
about
protecting
the
victims
to
start
with
and
then
we're
dealing
with
the
other
offenses
continue
to
encourage
people
to
use
the
intelligence
portal,
so
councils
can
use
it
as
well
just
just
to
keep
the
intelligence
coming
in
for
us
and
then
the
last
one.
H
That's
on
the
report
is
the
police
and
crime
bill
that
changed
the
powers
around
travellers.
I
recommend
a
good
read
it's
very
long,
but
it
just
does
bring
some
extra
powers
in
for
us.
So
summarize,
our
demand
has
probably
increased
and
over
the
weekend
it's
probably
at
levels.
We've
never
seen
before.
That's
for
all
our
services
and
I
think,
we'll
probably
have
a
busy
summer.
H
We've
got
price
increases
protests,
people
striking
and
we'll
probably
bear
the
brunt
of
that,
but
we'll
continue
to
problem
solve,
find
better
ways
of
problem
solving
we're
just
working
with
paul's
team
to
to
identify
the
areas
that
we
can
target
better
so
that
the
hospitals
are
always
really
high
level
calls
for
service,
but
getting
the
addresses
that
are
just
starting
to
creep
in
that
will
cause
issues
in
communities
to
focus
on
them
a
little
bit
to
try
and
change
and
and
really
help
communities
out.
N
Yeah
a
couple
couple
of
ones,
I
know
at
the
moment
lisa's
going
for
a
consultation
on
there
or
something
called
the
psp
or
public
safety
protection
order,
and
I
get
the
broad
rush
of
what
that
is,
which
is
basically
allowing
more
timely,
swifter
action
and
enhanced
powers.
N
I've
had
some
I
when
the
consultation
went
out,
I
was
brought.
I
was
supportive
of
it
and
I
put
it
out
into
the
community
some
of
the
feedback.
I've
got
back
which
I've
tried
to
address,
but
I
don't
feel
like
I've
got
enough
information
to
address.
N
It
specifically
is
well
haven't
the
police
already
got
those
powers,
and
I
I
I
know
enough
to
know
that
it's
you
know
it's
like,
for
example,
the
analogy
I've
used
is
where
you
have
your
kind
of
alcohol,
restricted
areas,
but
it'd
be
handy
to
know
specifically
what
it
would
enable
that
isn't
already
enabled
so
that
when,
when
members
of
the
community
come
back
and
with
those
kind
of
you
know,
challenges
of
say
what
what
they
do,
what
difference
is
it
going
to
make
we
can
we
can
we
can
inform
them
that
and
that
that
will
then?
N
I
think
people
will
be
supportive
of
it
if
it's
explained,
but
just
getting
behind
that,
I
noticed
on
page
it's
pitch
69
of
our
pack
there's
something
which
is
the
start
of
appendix
2..
I'm
not
jumping
ahead
here.
Are
you
okay,
there's
a
drop
reported
drop
in
asb
and
I
do
wonder
whether
some
of
that
is
because
people
are
just
tired
of
reporting
it
again.
N
It's
one
of
those
things
that
I
get
that
well,
what's
the
point,
we
never
hear
anything,
and
I
I
always
strongly
in
my
community
say
no
report
it
because
I
know
if
it's
not
on
if
it's
not
called
in
or
logged
online
or
logged
with
you
guys,
of
course,
you're
aware
of
it
in
a
contextual
sense,
but
in
terms
of
the
things
that
drive
where
your
resources
go,
you
need
that
data
to
go
on.
So
I
think
that
that
is
just
one.
N
You
know
one
point
and
again
building
on
something
that
counselor
was
said
earlier
on.
I
think
that
that
link
between
what's
happening
with
the
police
and
sharing
information
with
the
councillors
and
that
shared
communication,
whether
it's
a
strategy
or
just
an
approach,
because
often
when
something
happens
in
the
community,
the
counselors
are,
if
not
the
first
part
of
call.
N
There
are
certainly
in
parallel
part
of
call
to
what
the
blooming
heck
is
happening
with
this
this
and
this,
and
obviously
you
know
it's
getting
that
thing
around
around
what
is
operationally
sensitive,
what
can
be
shared
because
you
know
when
something
I
know
when
something
happens
in
my
community,
it
it.
N
You
know
facebook
on
my
messenger,
my
phone,
my
phone's,
like
a
it's
like
a
1970s
disco,
it's
like
flashing
that
much
with
posts
coming
in
and
actually
that
the
information
that
I
can
put
out
to
you
know
to
reassure
to
inform
to
elicit
people
to
engage
to
say
well,
actually,
the
more
information
you
feed
in
you
know
there's
a
problem
at
the
moment
in
my
area
with
a
seeming
arsonist
and
it's
kind
of
again
it's
just
engaging
community,
and
I
think
that
that's
a
part
where
councillors
can
support
police
very,
very
effectively.
A
I
Yeah
and
I'll
just
come
in
there
with
regards
to
the
pspo,
so
the
pspo
supports
this
replaces
them
interventions
already,
which
they
use
the
section
59.
So
we
can
also
they
can
seize
that.
I
We
previously
did
have
the
unknown
person's
injunction
in
place,
which
supported
the
work
we
were
doing
around
car
meets
and
unfortunately
that
was
withdrawn,
but
the
pspo
is
able
to
tackle
that
and
will
support
the
police
use
their
pe,
please
and
the
powers
around
dispersal.
I
So
if
the
police
identify
ecarmi
they're
able
to
use
this
dispersal
power
straight
away
because
the
pspo
is
in
place,
so
it
is
suppo
in
support
of
what
the
police
are
already
doing.
H
I
will
thank
you
yeah.
It
could
be
seen
as
as
a
positive
that
asp
has
gone
down,
but
that's
ultimately,
probably
down
to
the
fact
that
our
crime
recording
standards
have
changed.
We've
probably-
and
we
do
because
we're
now
graded
as
outstanding
for
our
crime
recording
occurrences
across
west
yorkshire,
we'd,
probably
crime
them
and
change
the
encode
from
anti-social
behavior
to
harassment,
various
other
crimes.
So
when
people
were
raising
issues,
I
use
an
example
of
somebody
kicking
a
football
against.
H
Your
house
would
probably
used
to
have
gone
on
as
asv,
but
if
the
victim
now
sees
it
as
a
harassment,
crime
or
a
public
order
crime,
we
change
the
encode
of
the
incident
and
it
comes
out
of
a
crime
rather
than
anti-social,
behavior.
Also
on
the
back
of
probably
kobe
jeers
as
well.
Asp
did
go
down
because
people
weren't
in
the
houses
and
again
people
that
were
committing
asb
were
probably
committing
some
sort
of
covered
breach.
So
again
it
was
being
crime,
so
we've
probably
mimicked
and
hidden
the
data
somewhere
else.
H
The
other
point
you
raised
around
community
support
and
updating
them
you're
totally
right.
We
need
to
probably
try
better.
We
were
just
talking
about
it
yesterday
with
claire.
How
do
we
update
the
council,
the
councillors
all
together,
because
a
lot
of
the
incidents
we've
got
nothing
to
hide
because,
in
fact,
positives
come
from
it
because
you
can
share
with
people.
We
probably
don't
talk
to
normally
about
ongoing
incidents.
We
probably
don't
give
you
all
the
details,
but
you're
right.
We
do
need
to
share
more.
H
My
inspectors
got
an
email
yesterday
saying
we
need
to
share
more
update
the
counselors,
more
try
and
understand
some
of
the
incidents
that
are
in
communities
that
there's
a
van
parked
underneath
the
street
that
that
community
really
want
to
know
about
sooner
and
quicker.
Just
so,
you
can
share
with
the
people
around
you,
so
I
do
take
it
on
board
and
we
can
do
better
on
the
flip
side
if
you
ever
do
need
any
information.
H
I
hope
you
know
your
neighborhood
inspector
enough
to
ring
them
up
and
say
I
need
to
know
something
and
I
hope
they
have
enough
trust
in
you
all
to
to
do
it
and
likewise,
in
your
tasking
meetings,
I
hope
you
can
have
the
confidence
to
have
a
discussion
with
the
mpt
inspectors
or
I'll
pick
the
phone
up
together
just
just
to
discuss
it
through.
Thank
you
right.
A
I've
got
chester
cannon
counselor
actor,
but
before
that
I'm
bringing
in
council
cooper.
B
Thank
you,
chair
just
to
add
to
the
responses
given
by
claire
and
p
already.
B
I
just
think
that
the
pspo
gives
another
opportunity
for
us
to
be
able
to
enhance
the
powers
that
the
police
and
the
council
have
in
regards
to
dealing
with
this
real
nuisance,
that
we've
already
heard
from
scrutiny,
board
members
and
also
from
officers
of
the
council
and
the
the
police.
Actually,
that
is
a
is
a
huge
issue
for
many
of
our
communities.
B
So
it's
it's
something
that
that
we
thought
we
really
wanted
to
consult
all
our
communities
on
to
find
out
what
the
impact
they
were
receiving
or
they
were
having
in
their
communities,
so
that
then
we
could
look
to
bring
in
that
pspo
in
terms
of
allowing
them
the
police
to
have
extra
powers
to
be
able
to
deal
with
them,
because
clearly,
whatever
has
been
happening
before,
has
not
worked
to
the
the
way
that
we'd
clearly
want
it
to
work
in
in
that
improved
way,
that
I
suggest
that
I'm
suggesting-
and
it
also
allows
us
to
take
the
views
of
everybody
around
the
city
around
that
as
well,
which
is
really
important.
B
I
think
one
thing
to
say
about
the
reduction
of
and
social
behaviour
is,
there's
been,
and
I
have
to
thank
claire
and
her
team
here
and
the
police,
because
there's
been
an
enormous
amount
of
work
done
in
the
last
18
months
around
tackling
and
social
behavior
in
our
city
and
in
all
our
communities,
and
perhaps
you
know
part
of
the
reduction
might
be.
You
know,
because
of
that
that
work
and
that's
actually
reduced
anti-social
behavior
in
the
city,
plus
that
I
accept
that.
B
That's
not
the
only
reason
there
before
the
reduction,
but
I
do
think
we
should
give
credit
where
it's
due
to
the
work
that's
taken
place
in
this
in
this
city,
around
and
social
behaviour
and
in
terms
of
the
engagement
with
the
communities
and
the
feedback
from
the
police
that
I've
heard
a
lot
about
from
members
scrutiny.
Members
this
morning
that
we've
been
talking
in
safer
leads
about
how
we
might
be
able
to
improve
those
partnerships
because
safely.
B
A
F
Thank
you
chair
and
thank
you,
mr
money
and
chief
inspector
hall
for
your
excellent
report.
I've
got
three
questions
and
one
comment.
First
question
is
that
on
boundaries
or
best
yorkshire
plays
on
the
elected
at
least
the
council
boundaries
they
don't
match
with
each
other.
One
example
I'll
give
you
is
when
we
have
the
packed
meeting
at
the
compton
center.
F
The
center
is
in
hair
hills
and
gibbs
in
the
hair
hills
and
the
people
from
other
side
of
the
road
are
from
burma,
shops
from
richmond
hill,
and
they
do
attend
that
packed
meeting
you
know
and
when
they
do
attend
that
packed
meeting
the
p.
The
mpts
are
from
gibson
the
hair
hillside
and
they
don't
have
the
information
from
birmingham
richard
middle
and
people
who
come
from
that
other
side
of
the
world.
Don't
get
that
information,
so
there's
a
communication
that
needs
to
be
improved.
F
People
out
there
don't
care
if
they
leave
other
side
of
the
road
or
this
side
of
the
road
they
want
to
be
represented
by
the
west
yorkshire
police
underlying
to
council.
So
that's
number
one
and
the
patch
meetings
are
for
member
of
public
tasking
meets.
Are
for
partners
and
electing
members,
so
that's
really
useful
and
and
the
allocation
of
the
mpts.
F
How
are
they
allocated
in
those
areas
on
the
demand
of
the
deprivation,
crime
and
poverty
and
the
other
one
is
you
know
before
we
used
to
meet
with
the
senior
team
in
in
different
patches
and
that
stops
actually,
because
we've
got
new
elected
members
here
and
the
senior
team
used
to
explain
exactly
how
the
west
europe
should
please
work
locally
in
pt
and
that
were
really
useful.
When
mr
money
was
the
chief,
a
superintendent
in
the
west
european
leads,
he
used
to
conduct
that
meeting
and
they
were
really
useful.
F
That's
why
I
felt
as
well
and
the
other
members
felt
really
useful
and
we
used
to
meet
every
six
months.
You
know
just
to
get
updated
from
elected
members.
The
senior
management
knew
what
the
issues
were.
So
that's
not
stopped
just
another
positive,
there's,
not
negative,
but
we
do
have
a
positive
as
well
and
the
in
it
is
mpt.
You
know
the
communication
is
brilliant.
F
Actually,
they
do
share
with
information
with
us
before
he
goes
on
social
media,
so
that
has
improved
massively
so
that
where
the
credit
needs
to
go,
it
needs
to
go
so
yes,
those
three
questions.
If
you
can
answer
me
back,
please.
H
Thank
you
at
first
point:
hair
hills,
yeah
quite
happy.
The
mpt
staff
can
go
to
the
meeting
I'll
sort
that
out
with
the
inspectors,
just
make
sure
they
do
go
to
it,
because
you're
right
boundaries
are
probably
not
my
best
point
to
discuss,
but
I
will
I'll
make
sure
it
happens,
how
staff
are
divided
up,
they
call
it
aid
plus
in
our
force,
and
it
does.
It
looks
everything
from
demographics
to
calls
to
to
everything,
and
then
we
put
it
in
the
system.
H
It
works
out
how
many
staff
we
should
have
and
that's
how
we
divide
it
up.
Then,
if
there
are
any
vacancies,
it's
up
for
me
to
move
them
around
across
across
leeds.
Ultimately,
but
yeah
staffing
is
divided
up.
West
yorkshire,
wise
then
light
down
up
to
ward
level,
so
we
should
know,
what's
in
each
quite
happy
to
come
to
any
meeting
you
would
like,
please
let
me
know
and
I'll
come
along
because
I
quite
like
meet
as
many
people
as
I
can,
and
I've
had
a
neat
invite
to
the
east
councillors
meeting.
H
Possibly
so
I
quickly
come
along
to
that
and
if
you
need
anything
else,
please
do
did
me
a
couple
of
councils,
the
other
day
catch
from
that
area
as
well.
So
I'm
more
than
happy
to
come
to
any
meetings.
You
need
and
talk
through
any
issues,
because
I
like
getting
out
out
and
hearing
what's
going
on,
ultimately,
because
without
the
communication
between
ourselves,
we're
just
not
going
to
tackle
everything
together,
have
a
covered
every
point:
yep
good.
A
E
E
I
think
I
think
is,
is
to
put
this
on
record
the
decision
that
the
police
has
has
taken
to
to
have
someone
like
andy
loftus,
who
I
have
worked
closely
over
the
years-
and
I
think
I
have
already
said
this
previously
as
well,
in
which
one
individual
can
make
a
huge
difference
to
the
communities
and
andy
has
done
so
much
fantastic
work
in
in
the
northwest
and
beyond,
and
colleagues
will
agree
with
me.
E
E
I
would
love
to
see
andy
to
to
be
a
chief
chief
inspector,
and
I
just
wanted
to
thank
him,
and
I
hope
that
you
will
pass
our
comments
to
to
the
chief
superintendent
for
all
the
hard
work
that
he
has
done
over
the
over
the
seven
or
eight
years
in
in
in
the
northwest.
I
think
he
used
to
cover
from
leeds
in
bradford,
rap
or
all
the
way
down
to
london.
So
thank
you.
E
H
No
thank
you.
I
I
will
praise
him
and
pass
that
on,
but
you're
right.
He
is
temperate
and
I
do
hope
he
gets
past
his
next
promotion
board
and
I
will
pass
his
support
on,
but
you're
right.
We
he's
been
temporary
in
that
role
for
probably
a
couple
of
years
now,
not
usual,
but
that's
because
we've
invested
in
him
because
everyone
gives
that
feedback
that
he's
excellent
and
particularly
with
the
partnerships
as
well.
I
probably
go
to
him
with
quite
a
lot
of
stuff,
so
thank
you
for
the
feedback.
So
much
appreciate.
Thank.
G
G
L
Just
a
few,
a
few
comments
more
than
anything
the
ppso.
I
agree
with
council
cooper.
If
you
can
have
it
it's
best
to
have
it,
and
there
was
a
point
where
we
had
one
and
it
was
looking
that
the
council
were
going
to
take
it
away
and
the
police
actually
came
to
us
and
said:
would
we
support
it
being
reviewed?
I
think
it
came
to
you
come
to
cooper
and
and
that's
what
it's
been
it's
it's
worth,
do
actually
members
it's
worth
having.
L
If
you
get
the
opportunity
in
your
award,
most
half
a
mile
near
half,
my
ward
is
covered
with
the
ppso
and,
and
it
is
very
useful
on
appendix
2,
the
reporting
of
asb.
I've
not
got
the
color
copy,
but
but
but
what
you're
showing
is
the
reduction
has
been
green
and
being
good.
That's
not
what
I
see
on
the
ground.
The
reduction
I
see
on
the
ground
is
because
people
are
I'll
chew.
L
My
words
careful
here
not
happy
about
how
they
have
to
report
it
length
of
time
they
have
to
wait
and
what
does
make
them
very
cross
is
that
they
try
to
use
a
non-emergency
number.
Can't
get
it
through
and
this
is
the
asp
escalates
and
then
it
becomes
a
triple
nine
call,
and
that
also
takes
a
long
time
to
report
and
then
the
response.
Because
of
the
time
that
has
elapsed,
the
response
doesn't
actually
catch
the
culprits,
particularly
asb,
and
personally
I
find
the
only
way
really
to
report
asp
is
on
the
website.
L
You
do
get
back,
but
you
took
a
long
time.
Last
time
I
reported
a
crime
on
the
website.
It
took
you
seven
hours
to
get
back
to
me,
which
meant
that
I
was
in
another
city
and
I
did
come
and
make
a
statement
ellen
raw,
but
it
took
a
week
to
do
that
and
it
was
words
of
advice
anyway.
So
it
didn't
really
get
anywhere.
L
You
know,
but
it's
the
only
way
that
you
actually
get
it
but,
as
I
said
with
asp,
I
don't
get
a
feeling
that
it's
reducing
because
of
the
way
you
are
reporting
it
or
that
there's
less
of
it
around
and
with
regards
to
that
and
just
a
final
point
about
leeds
watch,
I'm
I
I'm
really
impressed
with
leeds
watch.
I
think
he
does
a
great
job
and
every
time
I
go
to
louise
watch
center,
something
happens.
So
if
you
want
to
go
work,
your
members
come
with
me
and
you'll
see
something
out.
L
It
just
seems
to
be
the
way,
but
I
also
see
that
you
are
responsible
for
security
patrols
which
what
I
get
about
security
patrols
is
that
they
come
at
10
o'clock
in
the
morning
and
they're
words
I
get
used,
and
I
and
I
quote,
playing
on
their
phones
now.
I'm
sure
that
is
not
the
case.
L
I'm
sure
they're
actually
using
their
phones
to
deal
with
whatever
has
previously
happened
in
subsequent
nights,
but
that
is
not
conveyed
to
the
residents
that
need
to
know
it
or,
while
they're,
very
local
residents,
who
have
actually
reported
the
breaking
or
the
anti-social
behavior
in
the
first
place.
You
don't
then
respond
to
that
until
10
o'clock
in
the
morning
and
because
it's
almost
10
o'clock
in
the
morning
residents
assume
that
you
only
work
at
10
o'clock
in
the
morning.
L
I
know
that's
not
the
case,
but
it's
how
you
communicate
that
cost
to
residents
doesn't
seem
to
be
getting
through.
I
have
a
particular
problem
in
my
world
with
one
building
which
is
empty
and
is
covered
by
cameras,
and
obviously
you
are
having
to
review
that
camera
data
to
try
and
catch
them
and
relate
with
the
police,
but
in
some
in
some
cases
the
stuff
that
goes
to
the
security
patrol
doesn't
get
attended
to
it.
L
H
I'll
tell
the
first
point
leads:
watch
is
probably
somebody
else's,
but
yeah
asb
calls
I'll
start
with
our
call
center.
I
know
there's
a
question
earlier
about
call
centers
around
101.
We
have
a
recruiting
issue
at
the
moment,
like
everybody
is
seeing
just
trying
to
get
people
back
into
the
workplace.
Taking
calls
so
you're
right.
The
length
of
the
101
call
is
probably
greater
than
we
would
expect
at
the
moment.
H
We
are
trying
to
address
our
recruitment
issues
and
the
vacancies
in
our
call
centers
to
try
and
try
and
reduce
it
down.
We
we
do
do
the
media
campaigns
to
try
and
put
people
into
the
non
101
calls
to
try
and
focus
101
calls
for
your
asb
and
ongoing.
If
we
don't
get
there
in
time
or
you
have
to
report
it,
it
does
get
recorded.
So
then
we
can
at
least
go
back
and
hotspot
patrol
and
pick
up
on
the
inquiries,
but
but
you're
right
we
and
councillor
cooper
covered
in.
H
I
probably
missed
the
positives
about
asb,
reducing
you
know
the
bramleys,
the
haltomors,
the
ones
that
were
really
focused
on
recently
around
asb
can
show
with
the
partnership.
When
we
do
really
focus
on
an
area
it
brings
it
down.
We
do
need
to
start
on
some
areas
and
bring
them
down
and
bring
your
areas
down,
but
I
do
appreciate
your
calls.
H
We
can
be
better
with
101,
but
we
still
do
record
it,
and
we
still
do
then
patrol
them
afterwards
deploy
the
pcsos
deploying
the
safer
schools
offices
out
of
term
time
into
those
areas
to
identify
who
your
problem
makers
are
looking
at,
and
we
have
neighborhood
support
officers
looking
at
the
repeat,
callers
and
the
repeat:
locations
and
the
repeat
offenders:
to
try
and
put
the
early
intervention
on
them.
H
We
will
keep
at
it
and
we'll
still
keep
working
with
you
if
we
can
but
yeah
definitely
keep
reporting
it
and
we'll
keep
feeding
back
to
you
what
you
have
and
then
particularly
tasking
meeting
as
well
just
highlighting
issues
to
us
around
all
right.
We
can't
probably
give
you
updates
on
names
and
people,
but
you
can
tell
us
who
the
offenders
are
and
we
can
take
them
away
and
pick
him
up
from
there,
and
I
think
somebody
else
will
probably
pick
up
leads
watch
if
possible.
K
Yeah
I'll
just
I'll
just
pick
that
one
up
and
thanks
councillor,
what's
with
fear
for
your
observation
about
good
work,
that's
done
at
least
watch
and
we've
kind
of
said
this
before,
but
we
we
do.
Welcome
members
visiting
our
capability
around
leeds
watch,
which
does
include
external
deployments
as
well.
Security
patrols
has
been
referenced,
so
that's
kind
of
a
a
an
open
opportunity.
Really,
I
think
it
is.
K
It
invariably
does
prove
interesting
when,
when,
when
members
do
come
up
and
see
the
the
the
capability
we've
we've
got
there
in
terms
of
the
officers
and
that
they
do
use
their
mobile
devices.
I
think
I
I
think
you
made
that
point
anyway.
Councilor
was
they
do
use
their
mobile
devices.
K
We've
looked
to
digitize
the
work
that
colleagues
are
doing
to
stop
that
you
know
forever
coming
back
to
the
office
bearing
mind
where
the
office
is
in
south
leeds
and
the
deployments
are
across
the
city.
A
lot
of
the
activity
on
mobile
devices
is
reporting
and
capturing
the
work
that
they're
doing
and
also
liaising
with
the
control
room.
So
that's
that's
predominantly
what
that
that
that's
undoubtedly
about
at
the
other
point
to
reference
around
the
security
patrols
and
members
in
this
board
were
again
very
instrumental
in
work.
K
We
did
on
the
leeds
watch
review
and
helped
shape
some
recommendations
that
we're
working
our
way
through
now.
Pretty
much
worked
our
way
through,
and
one
of
them
was
to
ensure
that
that
resource
that's
deployed
on
security
patrols
is
a
resource
that's
used
as
effectively
as
we
can
and
in
addition
to
security
patrols.
K
They
also
do
work
around
the
domestic
noise
nuisance
agenda
that
a
number
of
members
are
very,
very
familiar
with
in
the
in
the
city
around
the
demand
that
that
provides,
and
some
other
support
to
our
colleagues
in
in
parks
and
countryside
as
well,
because
of
the
nature
of
the
the
fact
that
they're
working
into
the
into
the
early
hours
of
the
morning,
but,
as
I
said,
I'd
leave,
leave
the
the
point
with.
K
We
really
do
welcome
members
coming
up
to
to
see
these
facilities
and
we
are
working
really
hard
to
try
to
make
sure
that
members
are
provided
with
relevant
information
about
what
leads
watch
officers
are
involved
in,
because
that
has
been
a
challenge
similar
to
our
police.
Colleagues,
the
the
the
job
is
getting
on
and
doing
the
work,
but
we
do
need
to
work
harder
at
communicating
the
good
work.
That's
done.
That
probably
covers
all
the
leads
watch
issues.
I
think.
A
A
Gonna
be
using
this
new
technology
where,
for
those
of
us
who
are,
shall
we
say
over
the
age
of
21,
don't
necessarily
use
on
a
daily
basis,
but
you
put
in
the
dates
that
suit
you
most
of
all,
and
we
will
then
organize
things
accordingly
for
the
young
people
who
pledge.
This
is
absolutely
hilarious
for
those
of
us
over
the
age
of
21.
It's
not
something
we're
normally
doing
so.
That
said,
right,
I've
got
councillor,
carlisle,
council,
maloney,
councillor
smith,
coaster,
tudor
and
councillor
walkshow,.
O
As
ever
for
me,
a
quick
disclaimer
that,
if
this
isn't
the
right
place
for
it,
then
well
you're,
not
even
right
people,
then
that's
fine.
I'm
just
interest,
of
course
we're
we're
all
committed
to
trying
to
kind
of
look
for
those
longer-term
sustainable
solutions,
kind
of
like
long-term
work,
to
try
to
resolve
some
of
these
issues.
O
I
wonder
if,
if
this
board,
or
if
the
council,
before
or
the
council
and
kind
of
in
conjunction
with
our
policing
colleagues,
have
looked
at
the
possibility
of
seeing
if
leeds
could
really
do
some
pioneering
and
pilot
work
around
yeah
longer-term
solutions
to
drug
rehabilitation,
so
I
don't
know
if
any
all
of
you
be
aware,
but
in
in
portugal,
certainly
they
have
pioneered
as
a
country.
They've
pioneered
really
really
remarkable
work
around
drug
rehabilitation.
O
It
involves
kind
of
people
getting
reintegrated
into
workplaces
it
it
was
initially
when
it
was
first
brought
in
about
15
20
years
ago.
Seeing
is
highly
controversial.
It's
now
seen
as
just
utterly
successful,
and
it
has
cross-party
support
across
the
country.
I'd
be
really
interested.
Is
that
already
happening
in
this
country?
Is
it
something
we're
looking
at
in
leeds?
Could
leads,
go
to
national
government
and
say
give
us
some
money.
We
want
to
pilot
it.
We
want
to
prove
this
that
this
works
and
it
could
really
change
our
communities.
K
I
think
I
I
I
think
we
could
have
a
conversation
for
about
three
hours
on
this
on
this
subject.
It's
a
really
really
good
point
and
I'd
be
really
happy
to
to
to
follow
this
up
in
a
more
in
a
more
informal
environment.
The
approach
that
we're
taking
leeds
is
is
very
much
focused
on
pushing
the
boundaries.
As
far
as
we
can.
We
do
recognize.
K
K
We
work
in
accordance
with
the
national
drug
strategy
and
the
legislation
and
the
legislative
framework
that
that,
obviously,
that
we're
working
to
on
a
national
basis,
but
there
are
the
opportunities
to
to
to
engage
both
nationally
and
locally
around
around
pilot
opportunities
and
where
we
see
those
those
opportunities,
we'll
obviously
look
at
the
issues
that
we've
got
in
leeds,
with
the
view
to
considering
whether
whether
it's
appropriate
to
to
proceed
on
that
basis,
but
that
strategy
tends
to
govern
the
work
that
the
work
that
we
do
and
the
work.
B
Yeah,
can
I
just
add
to
that
we
work
with
forward
leads,
who
do
an
awful
a
lot
of
work.
Ed,
I'm
not
sorry
castle,
carl,
I'm
not
sure
that
aware
of
the
work
that
forward
leads
do
as
well,
and
maybe
there
will
be
an
opportunity
for
you.
B
You
know
to
find
out
and
get
brief
fully
on
the
work
that
they're
doing
they
they've
undertaken
some
new
pioneering
work
on
drug
addiction
and
how
they
may
be
able
to
you
know,
assist
people
to
exit
that
drug
addiction
as
well,
which
has
been
you
know,
we've
had
sight
of
some
of
the
successes
of
that
as
well,
which
is
really
good.
So
maybe
that
that's
something
that
you
personally
might
want
to
take
take
a
look
at.
B
B
I
I
think
also
the
the
safer
leads
executive
have
really
looked
at
drug
addiction
in
in
the
round
as
well,
because
it's
not
only
drug
addiction
that
you're
usually
dealing
with
you're,
usually
dealing
with
you
know,
complex
issues
included
in
so
there'll
be
mental
health
or
physical
health
conditions
around
drug
addiction
as
well
and
so
safely
to
its
last
meeting,
took
a
decision
to
to
do
some
really
in-depth
work
around
that,
and
there
is
a
group
from
the
state
lease
executives
that
are
looking
in
a
task
and
finish
group
into
looking
at
that.
B
So
we've
been
more
than
happy
to
report
that
back
to
scrutiny
once
that
work's
been
undertaken,
because
we've
recognized
in
previous
meetings
and
communications
with
us,
the
the
surface
executive,
that
it's
been
an
issue
around.
How
people
can
you
know
access
one
or
the
other,
and
we
ought
to
be
looking
at
them
as
a
whole
person
and
not
just
in
terms
of
what
service
they're
accessing
at
the
time.
A
D
Yeah
thanks
councillor
councillor,
I'm
quite
happy
to
do
a
briefing
for
you
around
some
of
the
work
that's
going
around
drugs
and
alcohol,
and
I
just
echo
what
counselor
cooper
says
and
forward
leads.
Are
our
commission
service?
You
know
they've
just
gone
through
a
cqc
inspection
outstanding.
It
was
you
know
they
are
a
national
leader
in
terms
of
innovation.
They
certainly
use
the
models
around
prevention,
intervention
and
recovery,
which
is
really
important,
and
I
think
counselor
cooper
was
hinting
around
the
people
with
multiple
complex
needs.
You
know
people
with
multiple
disadvantaged.
D
B
Thank
you.
It's
on
the
same
subject
and
completely
agree
with
everything
that
catholic
cooper
and
simon
have
said
forward
leads,
do
some
brilliant
work
and
it
isn't
big
enough
to
my
mind.
I
think
the
problem
is,
and
it
feeds
through
everything
that
every
one
of
us
in
this
room
does
and
that's
mental
health
and
the
problem
that
I
have
as
a
council.
B
I'm
sure
many
of
you
have
as
well
is
people
who
are
addicted
to
drugs
and
alcohol
and
probably
because
of
the
trauma
occurred
in
their
life
at
some
point:
they're
suffering
from
mental
health
and
it's
very,
very
difficult
to
get
a
practitioner,
a
medical
practitioner
to
deal
with
that
unless
the
people
have
got
treatment
for
drugs
and
alcohol
and
they're
clean-
and
you
know,
they're
probably
addicted,
because
they
have
mental
health.
So
it's
chicken
and
egg,
it's
very,
very
difficult
to
deal
with,
and
it's
something
that
I
keep
going
on
about
all
the
time.
B
Change
their
mind,
I
understand
why
they
wouldn't
want
to
deal
with
somebody
who's
addicted,
to
something
completely
understand
that
and
completely
understand
how
somebody
who
doesn't
want
to
come
off
drugs
or
alcohol
that
they're
more
difficult
to
deal
with,
but
forward
leads,
seem
to
be
able
to
manage
to
do
all
this
good
work,
and
I
just
want
to
highlight
it
to
everybody
in
the
room
that,
if
you
get
a
chance
to
talk
about
it
as
much
as
you
can,
a
national
conversation
is
what
is
needed.
I'll
leave
to
that.
C
I
think
it
follows
on
quite
nicely
from
council
carlyle's
point,
I'm
just
looking
at
page,
63
and
64.
and
then
just
to
jump
forward
80
to
83
just
on
people
with
multiple
needs,
such
as
street
users
and
sex
workers.
These
you
know
these
crimes
that
outlined
would
only
ever
be
eradicated
if
we
have
allocated
poverty,
an
addiction
and
we
can't,
we
simply
can't
do
that
overnight.
It's
no
golden
bullet,
so
it's
you
know
good
to
see
that
you're
talking
about
multi-agency
action
and
working
with
grassroots
community
groups.
C
But
what
do
you
see
that
looking
like?
Because
my
concern
is
that
with
street
users
and
sex
workers
they're
talked
about
outside
of
the
community
as
if
they're
not
part
of
the
community,
so
we
get
residents
versus
users,
residents
versus
sex
workers
to
community
versus
users,
community
versus
sex
workers,
rather
than
that
being
a
conversation
that
brings
all
parties
involved
and
then
we
have
very
high
tensions.
So
I'm
just
when
it
comes
to
that
community
engagement.
What
do
you
see
that
looking
like
when
we
look
at
those
people
with
multiple
needs?
D
Yeah,
no
thank
you
counselor.
If
you,
if
you
don't
mind,
council
just
do
a
little
bit
around
where
we're
going
and
some
of
the
challenges
some
of
them
are
in
the
report.
Obviously
you
know
some
of
the
high
level
stuff,
but
yeah.
Actually,
we've
got
a
really
really
positive
partnership
working
on
people
who
are
rough,
sleeping
begging,
sex
working
people
in
need
on
the
street
in
its
broadest
sense.
You
know:
we've
got
really
good
infrastructure
around
that
partnership.
D
That's
saying
we
have
got
more
to
do.
There
is
more
to
do
operationally.
We
are
very
much
focused
around
that
high
support,
high
challenge,
but
also
compassionate
in
terms
of
listening
to
the
voice
of
people
who
are
going
through
that
experience
you
know
and
what's
happened
to
them
in
the
past,
understanding
that
trauma
and
what?
How
can
we
enable
them
to
make
informed
choices,
whether
that's
exiting
or
moving
forward
helping
them
recover?
D
I'm
pleased
to
say,
from
a
performance
point
of
view:
the
numbers
are
remain
low
compared
to
our
pre-covered
figures,
so
it
may
be
visible,
but
it's
lower
than
it
was
pre-covered,
and
we
recognize
there's
still
more
to
do
on
that.
We've
now
got
funding
from
the
department
of
leveling
up
for
three
years.
D
Normally
it's
one
year
we've
got
a
settlement
three
years,
which
gives
us
some
sustainability
in
terms
of
our
infrastructure,
and
that
includes
the
the
work
around
these
specialist
support
services
that
we
need
to
work
with
their
people
who
were
in
need
on
the
street.
So
that's
important
as
well
as
the
accommodation
offer
you
know,
having
the
right
accommodation
offer,
whether
that's
emergency,
whether
that's
supported
accommodation
and
the
wraparound
support
that
can
help
people
recover
and
move
forward.
So
that
that's
significant.
D
I
think
one
of
the
other
innovations
we
are
innovative
and
we
do
work
very
closely
with
our
partners
and
we
we
are
pushing
the
boundaries
here
and
a
real
national
leader.
I
think-
and
I'm
really
proud
of
the
work
that
we've
done
around
a
gender,
informed
accommodation,
emergency
accommodation
in
the
city.
I
think
I
might
have
mentioned
that
this
when
it
came
previously
that
we
were.
We
were
working
on
this
and
what
I'm
pleased
to
say
that
city
center
female
only
emergency
accommodation
is
up
and
running.
It's
called
somewhere
safe
to
stay.
D
We've
had
it
was
opened
in
december
21
we've
had
70
women
so
far,
certainly
70
women
that
have
gone
through
that
and
moved
forward
into
more
supported
or
alternative
accommodation.
What
to
do,
but
that's
the
right
way.
We've
developed
our
somewhere
safe
to
live
program,
which
is
including
additional
properties
where
women
need
additional
support
to
help
them,
because
for
whatever
reason,
whether
that's
mental
health,
whether
that's
trauma,
whether
that's
addictions,
whether
that's
relationships,
you
know
and
enabling
people
to
move
forward.
So
that's
really
really
important.
D
I
think
you're
right
in
terms
of
talking
to
the
community
communities
are
impacted
by
some
behaviors,
but
also
an
understanding
of
the
needs
of
those
individuals
is
really
important.
I
think
over
the
last
couple
of
years,
we've
got
better
at
that,
and
I
know
council
you're
on
our
working
group
and
the
work
that
we're
doing
in
holbeck,
particularly
and
the
way
that
we're
doing
the
city
centre.
I
think
our
comms
and
engagement
plan
is
really
clear
and
we're
open
for
that
conversation
with
members
of
the
community,
which
is
important.
D
D
You
may
remember:
pre-covered
we
had
an
issue
of
on-street
soup
kitchens,
particularly
in
the
city
center,
lots
lots
of
grassroots
organizations
with
good
intents
they
wanted
to
help
people
they
wanted
to
give
them
food,
but
actually
we've
changed
the
narrative,
we're
saying.
Actually
this
is
about
dignity.
This
is
about.
Do
we
really
want
people
queuing
up
in
the
cold
in
the
rain
for
food?
You
know,
and
the
groups
that
were
doing
that
have
come
to
to
realize
that
actually,
this
isn't
the
best
way
to
help
people.
D
We
now
have
an
indoor
provision
on
an
evening
five
nights
a
week
which
I'm
really
pleased
about
st
hans
resource
center,
and
actually
it's
about
dignity
for
those
people
giving
them
a
safe
space
to
go
to
can
help
get
support
the
right
support
at
the
right
time.
For
them,
the
cues
that
we
saw
in
the
city
center
were
not
all
people
who
were
homeless
or
ruthless.
Many
of
them
were
in
food
poverty
and
actually
they're
better
served
in
the
neighborhoods
where
they
live.
D
With
the
you
know,
the
provision,
that's
in
those
areas
there
and
coming
to
the
city
centre,
so
I'm
really
proud
of
how
we've
done
that
move.
That
forward
still
some
challenges
still
lots
to
do,
but
I
think
we
are
progressing
in
the
right
direction.
Thank
you.
Okay,.
C
Yeah,
just
on
my
final
point
of
how
do
you
see,
how
do
you
see
the
collaboration
working
with
getting
that
communication
between
residents
and
those
people
with
the
multiple
needs,
such
as
the
users
and
sex
workers,
because,
like
I
mentioned,
there
are
tensions
that
create
sort
of
a
you
know:
you're,
either
in
favor
of
residents
or
you're
in
favor
of
users?
And
it's
that's.
You
know
it's
not
the
situation
whatsoever.
D
Yeah,
thank
you
councillor.
I
think
council
cooper
alluded
to
the
work
that
we're
doing
around
multiple
disadvantage
and
councillor
carter
is
raising
numerous
times
to
save
elisa
exec.
We
have
a
task
and
finished
group
looking
out
back
in
terms
of
where
we're
going
in
terms
of
those
communications
and
pathways
we're
working
really
closely
around
co-production
strategy,
particularly
with
the
voice
of
a
service
user
and
the
voice
of
the
community.
D
A
M
Thank
you
chair,
so
I'm
heartened
by
much
of
what
I'm
reading
in
these
reports
and
hearing
the
great
work
that's
going
on
around
the
city,
I'm
a
big
fan
of
prevention
being
better
than
cure.
It's
cheaper
and
it's
better
for
our
residents.
M
If
we
can
stop
somebody
going
down
the
wrong
path,
it's
easier
than
dragging
them
back
and
putting
them
back
on
the
right
path.
Again,
whichever
that
path
is
anti-social,
behavior,
drink
drugs
or
anything
else.
I
do
feel
that
much
of
the
time
we
reward
bad
behavior,
rather
than
good
behavior,
to
try
and
get
them
back
on
that
path.
M
Certainly,
my
own
experience
of
youth
services
is
that
it
almost
feels
as
though,
if
you're
deemed
as
as
in
danger
of
going
down
the
wrong
path,
you
know
you
get
the
good
trips
and
the
the
children
that
are,
or
the
young
people
that
are
doing
the
right
thing
don't
tend
to
get
that
same
experience.
M
So
I
think
we
do
need
to
get
a
little
bit
better
at
that.
I
think
we
do
need
a
and
holistic
whole
person
approach.
I
do
think
that
we
can't
say
you
know
we'll
deal
with
that.
Then
we'll
deal
with
that,
then
we'll
deal
with
that,
because
that
is
never
going
to
work
because
who
knows
what
started
which
behavior?
M
So
we
do
need
to
get
go
down
to
grassroots
and
again,
if
we,
if
we
can
catch
them
young
enough,
then
hopefully
we
won't
even
need
that
in
time
to
come.
M
One
tiny
point
I
was
going
to
make
is
around
the
communications
for
both
the
police
and
the
safer,
stronger
communities
team.
We
have
a
lot
of
information
that
we
we
don't
seem
to
get
out
into
our
communities,
for
whatever
reason
it
could
just
be
as
simple
as
a
telephone
number
or
who
to
contact
in
this
instance
who
to
contact
in
that
instance,
and
I
feel
quite
sure
that
we
could
make
an
a4
sheet
of
paper
with
the
contact
details
on
and
we
have
hundreds
of
notice
boards
around
this
city.
M
Hundreds
of
them
can
we
not
put
one
in
every
notice
board
just
so
people
it's
there
in
their
eye
line.
You
know
if,
if
they're
in
the
park-
and
they
don't
have
the
you
know,
they're
not
home-
to
do
anything
on
their
computer
they've
got
usually
got
a
telephone
with
them.
They
can
immediately
get
that
number
make
the
call
do
whatever
they
need
to
do,
and
I
just
think
that
you
know
we
have
technology
at
our
fingertips
constantly.
M
A
D
Just
very
briefly
wanted
to
cheekily
take
advantage
of
the
high
level
people
in
this
room
to
ask
about
community
payback,
which
some
people
used
to
call
community
service.
I
think
logistically
and
safe
for
safety
reasons
was
put
on
hold
during
the
pandemic.
C
As
far
as
I'm
aware,
but
just
what
the
future
it,
whether.
C
For
that
holds,
and
and
and
whether
that.
A
C
Yep
thanks
yeah
yeah,
just
briefly,
I'm
aware
of
time.
So
one
thing
I
wonder
if
I
wanted
to
raise
and
be
interesting
to
see
your
responses
in
both
wheat
rewards
and
heading
the
high
part
was
we've
got
the
the
joys
of
the
oddly
run
now
on
one
level,
that's
a
lot
of
you
know
undergraduate
larks
and
it
could
be
taken
not
very
seriously
but
actually
think
we
do
need
to
take
it
seriously,
because,
particularly
over
the
last
three
or
four
years,
and
particularly
since
we've
we
all
came
out
of
lockdown.
C
The
oddly
runs
got
larger
and
rather
intense
and
judging
chair
by
the
the
hairlines
and
the
waistlines
they're,
not
undergraduates,
they're,
gavin
and
gavin,
and
gary
from
accounts
are
coming
back
to
relive
their
glory
days
from
10
years
ago.
But
joking
a
sign.
C
That's
led
to
some
cases
that
myself
and
counselor
garthwaiting
council
prior
picking
up
of
on-street
harassment
of
a
female
residence
and
it's
a
serious
issue
now
we're
having
discussions
with
license
holders
but
it'd
be
interesting
to
see
what
police
and
safer
leads
opinions
are
around
that
because
I
mean
basically
on
a
friday
and
saturday.
C
Henry
looks
like
mike
love
at
times,
and
the
license
holders
are
making
record
revving
record
takings
and
we're
looking
at
them
to
step
up,
and
we
want
to
see
what
the
police
and
safe
police
can
come
back
with
as
a
response.
Thanks.
A
D
I'll
try
and
be
brief
counsellor
yeah
as
well
yeah
fantastic,
I
think,
there's
something
in
that
in
terms
of
that
comes
and
then
engagement
and
using
technology.
More
importantly,
I
think
what
we
can
do
as
a
team,
we
can
go
back,
look
at
our
safety,
stronger
communities,
priorities
and
look
at
how
we
can
just
promote
that.
What,
where
and
who
and
how
to
report
kind
of
thing
and
I'll
send
you
everybody,
a
we've
got
an
a4
information
around
rough
sleeping
and
begging.
D
So
you
can
pass
that
out
to
your
your
constituents
as
well
I'll,
send
that
when
I
get
back
in
the
office
on
the
community
payback
counselor,
there
is
a
commitment
from
west
yorkshire,
probation,
yeah,
now
they've
been
reconfigured,
they
are
continuing
to
do
communication,
payback,
they're.
Actually,
looking
for
projects
should
I
say
so
again
contacts
I
can
send
that
out
to
you.
D
They
won't
like
me
for
that,
but
they
are
looking
for.
You
know
projects
that
you
want
to
do
in
the
community
really
important
and
then
just
in
terms
of
we're
doing
some
significant
work
with
claire's
team
who's,
leading
on
the
anti-social
behavior
awareness
week,
which
is
this
week.
So
look
out
for
messages
on
social
media.
You
know
really
important
as
well
as
the
engagement
in
our
neighborhoods.
You
want
to
mention
the
oddly
role.
Thank
you.
I
Just
with
regards
to
the
opera,
so
we're
doing
some
concentrated
work
specifically
on
that
at
the
moment,
because,
obviously,
we've
identified
it
has
been
quite
an
increase
and
it's
causing
quite
a
quite
a
nuisance.
It's
probably
not
what
it's
intended
for
initially
so
so
we
are
kind
of
trying
to
do
some
targeted
response
around
the
ps4,
that's
in
place
because
it
does
kind
of
cover
that
area,
and
so
we
we've
just
recently
had
some
communication
through
west
georgia
police
on
where
they
breached
somebody
for
in
breach
of
the
psp.
I
So
we're
looking
at
the
fixed
penalty
notice
process,
so
we're
kind
of
bringing
that
together
a
lot
tighter
than
it
was
before.
We
didn't
necessarily
use
it
around
the
ugly
room,
but
we've
identified
because
of
the
issues
and
the
increase,
it's
something
we
we
need
to
we're
really
engaged
with
licensing
as
well.
There
is
kind
of
a
bit
of
a
tactical
operational
group.
That's
just
recently
been
set
up,
so
it's
at
the
very
early
stages.
It's
got
the
right
partners
around
the
table
and
so
what
you?
B
Sorry,
I
just
want
to
make
a
point
that
that
has,
as
being
said
by
a
number
of
people,
but
by
councillor
smith,
most
recently,
and
that's
about
prevention
being
better
than
cure,
and
I
couldn't
agree
more
that
prevention
is
better
than
cure.
But
unfortunately,
because
of
the
financial
situation
that
this
council
has
been
left
in,
that
we
have
had
to.
B
You
know
think
about
how
that
budget
is
distributed
in
terms
of
of
its
priorities
and
youth
services
across
the
country
and
not
just
in
in
the
city
has
been
decimated
by
the
loss
of
income.
To
to
that.
B
That
real
big
need
that
there
is
in
the
city,
and
if,
if
we
had
the
right
amount
of
funding
for
for
youth
services
and
other
prevention
and
early
intervention,
then
we
would
be
able
to
do
a
lot
more
work
and
it
wouldn't
come
further
down
the
line
or
further
down
the
river
and
then
we'd
have
to
deal
with
it
and
it'd
be
a
lot
more
expensive
at
that
end,
to
be
able
to
deal
with
it
as
well.
B
I
don't
think
that
it's
necessarily
to
put
on
lead
city
council
shoulders
that
we
need
to
do
that.
Prevention
work.
It's
a
national
problem
that
these
areas
are
not
funded
correctly
and
they
need
to
be
funded
correctly.
We
have
called
for
a
statutory
youth
service
that
we
should
have
in
this
country
and
it
does
stop
young
people
from
entering
into
risk
behavior
if
they've
got
universal
access
to
youth
services.
A
Okay,
okay,
right,
can
I
I'm
throwing
this
to
a
conclusion,
but
can
I
thank
everyone
for
their
contributions
today
and
to
our
guests
for
coming
along
and
those
guests
who
came
along
and
didn't
have
a
chance
to
speak?
Hopefully
you
don't
feel
it's
been
a
total
waste
of
your
time
sitting
there.
A
Listening
to
your
colleagues
being
grilled
and
answering
questions,
you
might,
of
course
be
relieved
that
you've
not
been
asked
any
questions
yourself,
but
thank
you
all
for
coming
along
and
if
we
can
now
move
on
to
item
nine
angela
will
explain
all
about
diddles
and
doodles.
P
I
don't
know
about
that
level
of
detail.
Thank
you,
chair,
so
item
nine.
P
So
the
members
that
we
call
last
month,
the
board
was
presented
with
a
draft
work
schedule
for
the
forthcoming
year
and
that
reflected
known
items
of
scrutiny,
activities
such
as
performance
and
budget
monitoring
and
other
areas
of
work
that
were
recommended
from
the
former
board,
but
there
were
also
key
areas
of
which
other
areas
of
interest
raised,
and
so
it
was
prepared
that,
obviously,
in
liaison
with
the
chair,
we'd,
look
at
how
best
to
prioritize
and
incorporate
those
into
the
work
schedule.
P
So
having
done
so
you'll
find
in
appendix
one
what
the
latest
work
schedule
entails.
Part
of
the
some
of
the
pieces
of
work
that
will
be
undertaken
will
be
through
working
groups
and
site
visits.
So
at
the
moment
there's
an
indication
of
which
month
we
just
need
to
establish
the
date.
So
I
will
be
consulting
possibly
using
this
new
technology
of
a
doodle
poll.
A
I
will
have
you
know
that
they
consulted
with
all
the
scrutiny
chairs
and
there
was
only
me
and
counselor
marshall
katong
that
actually
completed
it.
So
so
I
did
actually
know
what
I'm
doing
it's
just
all.
I'm
saying
is
it's
a
new
technology
and
some
counselors
are
struggling.
That's
all
on
point,
not
exactly
so.
P
You'll
be
getting
yeah,
you'll
be
getting
that
through
very
shortly,
but
with
regards
to
one
of
the
visits.
That
was
because-
and
this
was
the
visit
regarding
environment
and
ware
services,
so
a
visit
to
new
market
house
on
the
roof.
But
what
we've
been
informed
is
that
the
service
is
actually
in
the
process
of
organizing
a
couple
of
event.
P
Events
anyway
for
new
members,
particularly
new
members
over
the
last
couple
of
years,
not
just
those
that
have
just
been
elected
and
for
them
to
attend
new
market
house,
be
briefed
on
the
work
of
the
service,
including
a
visit
to
the
rev,
so
the
time
frame
for
that
is
actually
september.
So
the
proposal
now
is
that
all
members
of
this
board
be
extended
an
invitation
to
those
events,
so
just
to
avoid
that
duplication
of
effort.
So
once
we
get
those
dates
we'll
send
that
through
so
all
are
welcome.
A
Thursday,
the
15th
of
september
pre-meeting
10
o'clock
at
10
30..
So
thank
you
all
for
your
attendance.
I
apologize
that
we
have
significantly
run
over
my
normal
attempt
to
try
and
keep
things
to
two
hours,
but
because
of
the
nature
of
the
questions
today
and
the
breadth
of
what
we're
doing,
I
felt
it
was
important
to
keep
it
going.
So
thank
you
all
very
much
for
coming
along.
Thank
you.