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From YouTube: MakerDAO Community Meeting Jan 15th, 2019
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A
All
right
welcome
everybody
to
the
January
15th
maker,
Dow
community
call.
My
name
is
David
I'm,
one
of
the
community
that
one
of
the
members
of
the
community
development
group
at
Maker
Dow.
So
we
do
this
meet
these
meetings
every
week
on
Tuesday,
or
at
least
we
tried
to
barring
a
special
weeks
where
there's
holidays
and
whatnot,
but
we
go
through
all
the
stuff.
A
That's
going
been
going
on
in
the
maker
Dow
universe
over
the
last
week,
everything
from
new
hires
to
the
events
that
we're
participating
in
new
partnerships
highlights
from
the
community
or
personally
my
favorite,
and
also
every
now,
and
then
we
do
open
q
and
A's
anytime.
Something
really
is
going
on
in
our
space
and
often
times
we
bring
on
special
guests.
A
So
the
agenda
for
today's
meeting
is
is
pretty
short
and
sweet
because
not
too
much
has
happened
over
the
last
week,
but
certainly
a
couple
of
things
have
happened
over
the
last
few
days
that
a
lot
of
people
may
have
questions
about.
So
today,
I'm
gonna
be
having
Brian
Novello,
a
member
of
the
Maker
Dow
legal
team,
on
as
a
special
guest
later
on.
In
the
call,
so
you
guys
can
ask
any
questions
you
might
have
about
anything
pertaining
to
the
maker
Dow
legal
side
of
things,
but
especially
I
know.
A
A
lot
of
people
have
been
asking
about
the
Oasis
announcement
so
definitely
feel
free
to
ask
your
questions
to
Brian
a
little
bit
later
in
the
call
he's
here,
for
you
know
to
demonstrate
transparency,
and
so
just
be
there
for
the
community
with
anybody
who
has
a
pressing
question
to
ask
so
before
I
go
on.
Let
me
just
grab
my
tea
all
right.
So
the
first
thing
we
usually
cover
is
events
so
Lincoln,
do
you
actually
want
to
talk
about
the
event
that
you
were
just
at.
B
Yes,
let
me
check
okay,
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
I'm,
not
muted,
always
happens.
Okay
last
week
actually
was
just
me
returning
to
the
office
and
trying
to
catch
up
with
all
kinds
of
events
happening
and
already
the
next
day
went
to
local
event
organized
by
the
energy
industry,
where
I
was
just
at
the
booth
and
like
talking
to
people
who
might
not
be
knowledgeable
about
blockchain
about
what
we
do
and
we
also
had
certain
along.
He
did
pitch
and
it
was
kind
of
funny.
B
For
instance,
like
I
talked
to
the
local
guy
local
Facebook
representative,
that
is
in
charge
of
noir
digs
and
Benelux,
and
it
was
me
telling
him
that
hey,
you
guys
have
a
working
group
on
blockchain
at
Facebook.
It's
at
there
as
I
was
kind
of
like
mixed,
interesting
conversations
yeah,
so
that
that's
where
I
was
last
week
and
basically
like
I'm
spending
a
lot
of
time
just
trying
to
like
look
into
what
what
events
are
happening
in
q1.
B
And
where
can
we
like
introduce
maker
to
people
who
haven't
heard
about
it
or
like
which
topics
would
be
interesting
for
us
to
to
discuss
something?
That's
coming
up
is,
for
instance,
rune
our
CEO
and
Martin
Moone
fall
from
the
form
of
verification
tea
will
bean
soup
shortly
in
end
of
January
at
the
m1
conference.
So
if
you're
in
Switzerland
around,
let
me
just
check
the
date.
B
B
A
A
It's
in
Korea
do
as
our
Korean
community
manager
over
there
and
yeah,
and
actually
there's
another
bit
of
news
from
Korea
that
I'm
gonna
mention
in
a
in
a
bit
when
I
covered
the
partnerships
but
yeah
I,
guess
that's
pretty
much
it
for
events,
the
other
really
cool
event!
That's
coming
up
next
month
that
everybody
is
really
excited
for
especially
the
us
at
the
community
development
team.
We're
really
excited
for
eath
denver.
A
A
But
we
also
have
a
couple
things
that
things
that
have
happened
in
the
maker
down
space.
So
on
January
11th
there
was
a
really
odd
occurrence
of
a
CEP
spam
attack
on
our
system.
We're
seven
and
a
half
thousand
CPS
were
created
in
a
single
day
by
a
single
person.
Most
of
them
were
empty
or
had
extremely
little
collateral
inside
of
them.
There
is
no
obvious
attack
vector
using
this
tactic
that
anybody
could
really
see
or
understand.
A
So
we
all
kind
of
are
chalking
it
up
to
a
user
error
or
a
script
that
kind
of
went
haywire
or
something
like
that,
because
there
really
isn't
any
way
from
somebody
to
benefit
from
spamming
CDP's.
Some
people
were
saying
that
it's
possible
that
the
person
was
mining
for
a
CDP
ID,
which
is
it's
possible,
but
really
it's
kind
of
a
vanity
thing,
and
it's
not
really
in
a
throw
a
threat
to
any
participants
in
our
system.
So
but
worth
mentioning
that,
that's
what
happened!
A
We
also
hit
a
cool
milestone
of
500
maker
in
the
burner
wallet.
So
this
is
a
really
sweet.
I
remember
when
the
burner
wallet
finally
had
a
hundred
maker,
it
felt
like
forever
and
then,
like
a
week
later,
it
was
like
200
and
then,
like
a
month
later,
it's
500,
so
burner
wallet
is,
is
really
really
filling
up
and
it's
you
know
it's
due
to
this
really
crazy
bear
market.
But
besides
that,
we
also
have
a
partnership
announcement
from
Korea
a
company
called
vanta
and
vente.
A
It's
a
decentralized
and
permissionless
network
that
ensures
real-time,
secure
and
private
connectivity,
so
through
vanta.
Both
individuals
and
corporations
are
able
to
like
develop
real-time
data,
transmission
services
and
commercialize
those
services
at
low
cost.
So
it's
kind
of
like
a
different
version
of
a
VPN
I
think
I
have
I
have
yet
to
fully
understand
what
vent
hood
does,
but
they
are
a
Korean
company
and
they
are
actually
doing
their
fundraising
or
at
least
a
part
of
their
fundraising
in
dye,
which
is
pretty
exciting.
A
We
also
had
an
announcement
called
a
new
oasis
from
the
maker
team,
so
it's
covered
announcement.
Basically,
both
oasis
sites,
Oasis,
Dex
and
Oasis
dot
direct
are
going
to
be
shutting
down
on
January
31st.
The
front
ends
are
going
to
be
taken
down
and
replaced
by
e
to
dye.
Easter
dye
is
basically
going
to
be
just
the
source
of
liquidity
index,
specifically
for
eath
dye
trading
pairs
and
so
we're
gonna
talk.
We're
gonna
have
a
bit
of
a
QA
on
the
Oasis.
A
Announcement
after
I
cover
a
couple
of
the
other
things,
alright,
so
I'm
also
going
to
cover
some
highlights
from
the
community.
Now
we
have
a
new
CDP
market
on
Colin's
house
network
that
was
created
by
one
of
our
awesome
community
members
at
CDP
auction,
and
if
anybody
wants
to
test
it
out,
they
link
to
a
couple
of
faucets.
If
you
want
to
get
some
cove
on
eat
and
die,
you
could
definitely
check
it
out
and
test
it
and
play
around
with
it.
Obviously,
it's
experimental
software,
that's
an
experimental
marketplace,
so
have
fun.
A
Another
piece
of
content
that
came
out
this
week
was
an
interview
with
our
head
of
Oracle's
Mariano
Conte
Mariano
has
has
been
an
OG
with
the
maker
doubt
team
for
a
long
time,
and
the
his
role
has
evolved
a
lot
and
the
interview
really
gets
into
his
story.
So
definitely
a
great
story
he's
one
of
my
favorite
people
that
make
her
doubt.
He
always
has
a
smile
on
his
face
and
he's
always
super
helpful,
so
definitely
check
that
out.
Yeah.
A
Another
thing
I
saw
on
our
reddit
was
the
great,
stable,
Quinn
debate,
which
was
a
panel
of
three
people,
one
from
obviously
us
maker
Dow.
We
had
Stephen
Becker
our
CEO,
oh
and
a
head
of
risk.
There.
There
was
a
guy
representing
us,
DC
and
also
there
was
the
guy
from
reserve
representing
Reserve
and
they
all
had
a
debate
about
stable
coins,
decentralization
versus
centralized
models,
the
trade-offs
and
the
scalability
problems
and,
like
a
really
really
interesting
conversation,
it
runs
about
an
hour
long,
but
definitely
worth
checking
out
to
do
alright.
A
Next,
we
have
a
couple
of
articles,
medium
posts
that
were
put
up
put
out
by
some
of
our
community
members.
There
was
a
analysis
on
the
supply
of
maker
called
examining
the
supply
of
maker.
It
was
an
article
by
Jack
Purdy,
where
he
basically
went
into
the
theoretical
scalability
of
the
the
dye
supply
and
then
well.
That
was
I,
think
he
then
yeah.
It
was
a
yeah.
He
was
examining
how
big
dye
can
get,
but
as
a
function
of
I
think
CDP
demand
yeah.
A
It
was
an
analysis
into
CDP
demand,
so
definitely
check
that
out,
interesting,
read
and
then
there
was
a
way
more
sort
of
I,
don't
want
to
say,
there's
a
lot
more
warmer,
a
article
called
the
diamonds
in
the
soles
of
her
shoes
by
a
guy
named
Andy,
cut.
Hope,
and
this
article
really
surprised
me
because
I
read
it
and
it
was
a.
It
was
an
article
about
maker
and
CDP's
and
dye
and
eath,
but
it
was.
A
It
was
very
sort
of
personal
and
it
was
a
story
of
how
he
had
been
talking
to
one
of
his
mentor's
and
like
basically
contemplating
what
maker
Dow
is
and
dye
is,
and
a
really
interesting
article
definitely
check
it
out
very
human
element
to
it
definitely
a
fun
read,
and
then
there
was
a
another
article
earlier
in
the
week
by
hasu.
It
was
a
criticism
on
the
scalability
of
died
because
of
no
available
closed-loop
arbitrage
abilities,
which
a
lot
of
people
disagree
with
them.
A
A
few
people
agreed
with
him,
but
yeah
definitely
interesting
read
clearly
died.
Those
have
people
are
retiring
it
in
some
way
because
it
has
stood
the
test
of
time
and
has
held
through
a
ninety
four
percent
drop
in
the
price
of
ether
and
has
maintained
its
peg.
So
I
think
it
is
scalable.
There
is
no
closed-loop
arbitrage
as
he
was
saying,
but
there
are
arbitrage
opportunities
in
different
ways,
but
definitely
check
it
out.
There's
an
awesome
reddit
thread
a
lot
of
discussion
about
his
criticism,
but
nevertheless
a
great
discussion.
A
B
B
A
It
actually
might
be
on
that
reddit
thread,
but
either
way
actually
now's
a
good
time
to
shamelessly
plug
the
Community
development's
repo
that
we
all
work
on
the
awesome
maker,
Dow
repo.
So
there
is
a
section
in
that
repository
called
critiques
and
critiques
are
anytime.
Somebody
writes
something
against
us.
We
throw
it
in
there
and
I
also
linked
the
reddit
post
there
in
the
critique
section,
so
I'll
actually
throw
it
in
the
track
for
you
guys,
if
you
guys
are
curious
to
see
that
yeah.
So
you
can
check
that
out.
A
C
A
C
A
Sure,
no
doubt
that's
very
good,
hopefully
I
know
a
lot
of
stuff
is
in
the
works,
though
yeah
all
right,
cool,
well,
okay,
so
link
actually
just
linked
that
article
that
we
were
talking
about.
Oh,
is
that
this
isn't
the
article.
Is
it
because
this
is
actually
the
one
that
I
did
mention
I,
don't
think
that
was
a
rebuttal
to
to
the
sorry.
A
D
A
A
Been
a
reddit
thread
regardless
yeah
we
pretty
much
covered
everything.
Let
me
know
guys
if,
if
I've
missed
anything,
definitely
feel
free
to
jump
in
and
mention
anything,
but
for
the
next.
In
a
couple
of
minutes,
I'm
gonna
introduce
Brian
of
ello
who's,
one
of
the
lawyers
here
at
maker
now
and
I'm
gonna
open
up
some
q8
to
him
about
the
the
Oasis
announcement.
So
let
me
know
if
you
guys
have
any
other
additions
before
we
move
on,
but
yeah.
C
C
I
was
on
a
community
call
about
seven
months
ago
or
eight
months
ago
now
and
I
joined
the
team.
Full-Time
I've
worked
previously
with
number
of
other
companies,
including
that
pub
for
probably
since
early
2016
in
January,
there
abouts
so
before
the
maker
smart
contract
actually
issued
mki
spring
2016
following
the
project
from
very
very
early
days,
and
that's
a
little
bit
of
my
background
and
I
think
the
main
thing
that
they
wanted
to
cover
today
was
talking
about
the
changes
with
regards
to
is
just
next.
You
know
my
sister
I'm
happy
to
do
that.
C
I
think
the
just
as
a
as
an
opening
salvo
start,
the
conversation
can
get
the
cue
a
ball
rolling.
This
was
a
decision
that
we
arrived
at
over
the
last
several
months.
There
was
something
that
the
evolution
of
Oasis
and
Oasis
direct
was
something
that
we
had
talked
about
internally,
both
on
the
legal
team
with
the
product
development
team
number
of
months.
It
changes
today
or
I
would
say
accelerated
a
bit
by
the
changing
regulatory
landscape
from
the
United
States.
You
know,
especially
I'm,
not
gonna.
A
So,
thank
you
so
much
Brian,
so
I
see
Jordan
Crandall
is
asking
in
the
chat.
So
the
big
question
is:
why
is
maker
training
going
away?
Presumably
the
reasons
are
legal.
Does
this
imply
that
the
foundation
was
providing
the
majority
of
the
volume
so
the
extent
that
we
can
expect
that
volume
won't
move
elsewhere?
Question
mark.
C
Answers
you're
asking
for
the
two
things:
I
would
say
the
reasons
for
maker
training
being
temporary
temporarily
removed
and
the
focus
being
put
on
Ethan
died
principally
for
the
user
experience,
but
can't
make
any.
It
would
be
silly
to
take
the
position
that
there
wasn't
any
legal
consideration
given
to
that
on
the.
B
C
Question
there
was
no
there's,
no
implication
about
the
foundation,
providing
the
majority
of
all.
You
there's
none
whatsoever,
whether
we
can
expect
them
to
move
elsewhere.
I
think
it
likely
would
I'm
simply
because
there
are
a
number
of
other
projects
and
work
and
weekers
interested
in
providing
in
care
liquidity
across
the
world.
That's
how.
A
A
C
For
example,
if
you're
going
to
use
the
CDP
dashboard
still
have
the
option
to
buy
a
guy
in
order
to
close
your
CDP,
there
will
still
be
some
quiddity
available
there
you're
trying
to
buy
diet
codes
for
CEP
or,
if
you
wanted
to
buy
now
and
PR
directly
to
close
your
CV.
But
the
principle
focus
is
the
two
front
ends
that
allow
for
the
trading
of
all
these
different
assets.
C
C
That's
that's
good
and
that
dev
team
internally
is
working
towards
that
and
trying
to
minimize
our
or
smooth
out
any
impact
and
still
have
on
user
experience
and
hopefully
by
having
eath
to
die
up
and
running
by
the
31st
and
then
having
that
providing
the
community
with
the
ability
to
purchase
dive
clips
they're
singing
peace
through
the
CTP
dashboard.
We
can
offset
any
blowback
to
the
user
experience
by
not
I'm
no
longer
having
access
to
the
front
ends
of
either
always
suspects
over
asus
direct
right.
E
C
There
I
would
just
I
would
offset
that
question,
because
I
think
it
relies
on
a
mistaken
assumption,
mistaken
assumption
that
M
carries
security.
There
is
no
implication
from
our
standpoint
as
far
as
its
security
status.
With
regards
to
this
decision,
I
think
that
question
presupposes
an
answer
to
an
earlier
question.
That's
being
left
unanswered,
I
think
that
question
you
know
whether
or
not
in
carry
security,
the
something
that
we've
looked
at.
You
know
we
have
our
internal
way
of
thinking
about
it.
We've
worked
with
outside
counsel
about
it.
C
E
Know,
I
I,
don't
know
why
I
always
get
this
feeling,
but
I'm
gonna
throw
you
a
curve
ball,
even
though
you're
probably
not
gonna
like
it.
So,
oh,
but
it's
kind
of
a
meta
question,
because
we've
all
Bob
viously
have
been
in
the
space
for
a
while
and
we've
all
invested
in
so
again
as
we
follow
a
project
at
some
point.
Presumably,
but
there's
there's
a
lot
of
sensitivity
when
it
comes
to
to
figure
the
temperature
of
the
space
and
the
directions.
E
Regulators
are
moving
and
I
know
personally,
I've
been
a
fan
of
defeat
of
new
projects
and
it
frequently
comes
to
us
a
spot
in
the
success
of
an
organization
where
it
becomes
far
more
difficult
for
them
to
publicly
discuss
the
way
that
things
might
be
developing
in
the
background,
and
that's
that's
a
tricky
situation
to
do
too
to
handle.
So
how
do
we
deal
as
an
organization
with
situations
that
you
know
like
this?
Just
wouldn't
be
who've
anybody.
It
would
be
beneficial
for
anybody
to
actually
talk
about
what's
happening
until
we
have
clarity.
E
C
E
Obviously
your
situation
is
far
more
complex
than
the
community
groups
situation,
but
in
community
is
kind
of
our
job
to
be
as
radically
transparent
as
we
possibly
can,
and
sometimes
situations
arise
where
even
speculating
and
or
releasing
minimal
amounts
of
information
can
either
occasionally
make
a
situation
more
precarious,
and
so
it's
it's
an
interesting
and
it's
an
interesting
challenge
and
I'm
not
seeing
a
obvious
solution
or
rising
anytime
soon,
but
it
was
happy
to
hear
your
thoughts
on
the
matter.
It's
it's
a
very
simple
situation,
all
right.
So
let's
take
back
into
the
chat
again.
E
E
Actually,
no,
maybe
well
I,
think
that's,
probably
all
we
can
touch
on
for
that.
So,
let's
move
on
Eric.
If
you
had
some
more
detail,
you
wanted
to
go
in.
Please
feel
free
to
answer
a
question
but
Jordan
I'm
gonna
move
on
to
your
next
question,
and
this
is
one
that
I
love.
This
isn't
equal
some
maker
doubt
community
members
have
already
set
up
in
a
way
sis
decks
mirror.
Is
that
okay
in
our
eyes
or
do
we
expect
that
these
mirrors
are
going
to
meet
some
resistance.
C
E
D
C
E
E
E
E
I
shouldn't
say
that,
because
that
sounds
kind
of
horrible,
it's
a
great
sight
but
I,
don't
think.
There's
any
reason
why
market
makers
at
all
the
market
makers
that
you
know
use
our
ecosystem,
wouldn't
just
simply
find
that
the
next
available
property
and
start
using
that,
like
the
market,
will
shake
itself
out
and
I
believe
yeah.
A
C
A
So
there
was
one
interesting
question
on
reddit
that
I
found
when,
when
the
new
Oasis
launches
post
multi
collateral
die
since
it's
being
positioned
as
not
only
a
regular
token
decks,
but
also
has
a
security
token
Dex.
What's
that
gonna,
look
like
they're
gonna
be
TYC
required.
Is
there
like
what
is
the
new
Oasis
from
a
legal
standpoint,
so.
C
I
won't
go
into
too
much
about
this,
because
what
we've
released
the
information
out
at
some
point
in
future.
Still
you
touching
on
what
rich
mentioned
about
being
not
guarded
but
but
being
discreet
as
far
as
kind
of
very
sensitive
information
goes
we're
still
in
the
process
of
of
working
towards
the
goals
that
were
expressed
in
the
article
yesterday.
C
A
C
Change
means
that
there
will
be
other
future
changes
in
legal
strategy
because,
like
there's
a
lot
of
unanswered
questions
with
legality
and
I'm
wondering
if
this
means
that
can
be
taking
a
whole
different
approach,
I
mean
I'm
kind
of
a
law,
clearly
a
whole
different
approach.
With
regards
to
what
we
were
doing
before
that
we
were
doing
now,
I
mean,
what's
the
what's
the
basis
point
from
which
we're
changing
your
standpoint.
A
C
A
C
Is
all
above
them
the
ultimate
decision
that
we
arrived
at
with
taking
down
the
front
ends,
but
also
launching
need
to
die,
took
into
consideration
both
some
legal
concerns
and
took
into
consideration?
You
know
business
concerns
and
what
was
best,
for
you
know
those
individuals
that
are
using
our
ecosystem.
A
A
A
Okay,
here
before
yeah,
so
let
me
let
me
just
go
back
to
what
Akiva
was
saying
with
his
question
about
the
future
changes
in
the
legal
strategy,
so
he
wrote
a
lot
of
people
thought
maker
would
always
be
purely
decentralized
with
no
kyc.
So
if
there
is
now
going
to
became
I
see,
does
that
mean
there
will
be
changes
in
the
structuring
of
the
maker
Dow
itself
right
now,
there's
no
corporate
tax,
but
maybe
there
will
be
in
the
future,
maybe
make
her
doubt
well,
yeah,
so
he's
also
yeah.
A
C
A
C
A
So
Jordan,
let
me
read
out
Jordan's
last
comments
in
the
chat,
so
what
he's
saying
is
that
we
need
some
way
to
reclaim
the
die
in
a
scenario
where
someone
steals
tokenized
Apple
shares
locks
them.
The
CDP
draws
the
die
and
then
intends
to
disappear.
I,
don't
know
why
they
wouldn't
just
catch
how
by
other
means
but
I,
suppose
it
as
a
risk.
Also
in
this
case
the
person
might
dump
died
on
the
market
just
to
get
what
they
can.
A
So
that
would
be
a
good
thing
to
prevent,
and
in
this
case,
that
someone
dumps
died
in
sales,
freeze,
I
guess
the
person
that
bought
that
die
would
get
screwed
because
it
would
get
rolled
back
into
someone
else's
account.
Question
mark.
That's
right!
Jordan!
That's
right!
You
know,
I'm
glad
to
read
out
your
comments.
Yes,
so
that's
that's
interesting!
So
I
didn't
actually
read
that
conversation
in
full,
but
I
think
he's
talking
about.
A
C
Won't
speak
for
the
product
management
team.
I
think
this
is
this
exact
scenario
we
know
exactly.
Jordan
is
subscribed
it,
but
some
of
them
touched
on
internally.
Yeah
Mikey
was
talking
about
how
best
you
to
help
us
to
deal
with
these
sorts
of
security
issues
with
three
likes
to
die.
That's
being
kind
of
you
know
whether
it's
securitized,
it's
token
or
equity.
Sure,
that's
me,
then.
This
is
something
that
Jordan
were
thinking
about
the
play.
So
it's
a
good
question.
C
A
C
Things
in
the
pipeline
for
products,
so
just
the
I
would
I
would
just
tell
everyone
in
the
community
to
be
excited
for
I.
Don't
we
multilateral
launches
and
all
the
different
things
that
are
coming
at
us
result,
and
then
the
ANU
away
since
Cubans
is
really
I.
Think
we're
gonna
arrive
at
a
point
where
we
look
at
where
we
are
kid.
We
look
at
in
six
months.
We
look
at
when
we
are
J
and
it's
gonna
blow
a
lot
of
people's
minds.
A
I'm
excited
for
that
embedded,
CDP
functionality
indexes
I've
been
the
been
waiting
for
that
that'll
be
cool
but
yeah.
Thank
you,
Brian.
If
anybody
has
any
additional
questions,
definitely
feel
free,
add
them
into
the
chat.
Now.
Brian
is
around
generally
speaking
in
our
rocket
chat
and
he's
definitely
always
available
for
a
question.
If
you
guys
want
to
ping
me
I'm
happy
to
ping
right.
A
E
A
All
right,
so
we
don't
have
too
much
left
to
discuss,
but
right
now
I'm
happy
to
open
it
up
to
just
freeform
questions
from
the
community
about
anything
else
that
they
might
be
might
have
questions
about.
It
doesn't
have
to
be
about
the
Oasis
thing,
but
yeah
feel
free
to
ask
and
talk
about
anything
and
otherwise
it's
gonna
be
there's
not
gonna,
be
much
activity.
I'm
gonna
be
closing
down
this
meeting
in
a
couple
of
minutes.
A
All
right
so
akiva
asks.
Are
there
any
updates
on
when
multi
collateral
die
will
be
released
or
an
update
on
when
there's
going
to
be
an
update?
I,
don't
have
anything
to
that.
I
know
the
I
know
that
the
teams
are
working
really
to
put
together
a
comprehensive
roadmap,
but
there's
a
lot
of
stunt
stuff
being
done
in
the
background.
I,
don't
know
if
rich,
if
you
have
anything
to
say
to
that
definitely
jump
in
but
I,
don't
think
I
have
anything
yeah.
E
Well,
I
know
you
kind
of
touched
on
the
major
points,
so
historically
everybody,
but
us
included,
have
been
really
bad
about
predicting
the
future
when
it
comes
to
launch
dates
in
this
base.
There's
lots
of
moving
pieces
and
we're
a
surprisingly
complex
organization,
so
to
figure
out
what
our
roadmap
looks
like.
We
need
to
figure
out
exactly
what
every
single
team
is
taught
to
in
the
organization
and
when
they're
going
to
get
done
and
what
the
order
of
operations
and
the
dependency
change
look
like.
E
So
our
goal
right
now
is
to
get
to
a
point
where
we
can
release
the
canonical
roadmap,
so
something
that
you
know
live
updates
that
takes
everybody's
initiatives
into
account
and
that
we
can
actually,
you
know,
set
some
heart
drop,
dead
dates
on
and
that's
going
to
be
a
big
process.
So
we're
hyper
focused
on
getting
that
roadmap
done
now
so
I'm
hoping
in
the
next
actually
should
I
even
potentially.
A
E
Roadmap
right,
it's
risky
I'd,
say
like
in
the
next
month
or
two
we'll
have
something
authoritative
where
people
can
say
that
you
know
six
months
out.
We
will
see
this
probably,
but
instead,
maybe
I
guess
is
the
difference.
It's
software
development
is
a
really
really
really
tricky
thing
to
do
and
the
space
is
changing.
The
technology
is
changing,
teams
are
changing
so
predicting
that
far
out
gets
really
hard,
but
soon
TM,
yeah.
A
A
E
But
as
we
touch
on
a
lot
in
these
meetings
and
into
the
governance
meetings,
a
partnership
doesn't
guarantee
inclusion.
As
a
cloner
looks
like
Connor.
All
types
need
to
be
evaluated
and
risk
teams
need
to
come
up
with
a
proposal
for
them
and
then
the
NGO
the
community
needs
to
vote
them
in
or
not
so,
there's
no
guarantees
when
it
comes
to
this
thing.
On
the
flip
side
of
that
coin,
though,
it's
unlikely
that
many
tokens
wouldn't
get
accepted.
At
some
point,
but
it
has
to
go
through
a
governance
process.
D
D
Probably
one
of
the
biggest
conversations
we
have
is
talking
people
back
as
it
relates
to
sort
of
a
presumptive
closed
on
them,
naming
themselves
collateral
to
multi
collateral
die,
so
I
want
just
like
internally
just
to
give
everyone
the
confidence
that
we're
really
really
focused
from
jump
on
letting
every
partner.
Token
know
our
potential
partner.
Token
know
that
it's
not
a
fait
accompli
until
MKR
holders
vote
you
in
and
there's
going
to
be
a
full
process
related
to
that
to
the
earlier
conversation
or
route
roadmaps.
D
The
big
thing
I'm
working
on
right
now
he's
getting
are
making
a
public
road
map
for
what
the
voting
in
or
kind
of
like
what
the
process
from
working
with
potential
collateral
types
through
to
voting
through
to
going
live
with.
Multi
collateral
types
in
the
new
world
will
look
like,
so
there
will
be
a
lot
of
updates
on
that
front,
but
really
just
to
chime
in
and
say.
D
A
The
WBT
see
from
what
I
understand
is
a
Dow
as
well
and
I'm,
actually
talking
with
one
of
our
members
from
the
beat
CBD
team,
Ashley
and
she's,
saying
that
that
we
have
people
internally
at
maker,
who
are
members
of
their
Dow,
which
is
governing
the
project.
So
we're
actively
just
a
part
of
helping
them
figure
out
their
vision
and.
A
E
From
a
from
a
broader
perspective,
and
not
just
OD
BTC
but
maker,
Dow
is
really
interested
in
ultimately
being
a
cross
change
solution,
so
we're
not
maximalists
we're
pragmatist.
So
if
there's
collateral
to
be
had,
we
want
access
to
that
chain,
and
so
the
we
are
super
happy
that
somebody
like
an
organization
like
WTC
is,
is
sort
of
gotten
things
organized
enough
to
start
creating
those
bridges,
yeah
well.
A
Sudden,
any
new
collateral
that
that
is
potentially
like
attractive
to
the
maker
now
system
really
needs
a
deep
and
granular
assessment,
both
on
a
qualitative
level
and
on
a
quantitative
level
and
W
BTC
being
a
sort
of
again
an
inocent
innovation
of
a
way
to
get
BTC
onto
aetherium.
It
has
to
be
really
closely
considered
before
you
could
say
it's
collateral
before
you
can
assign
that
all
of
the
parameters.
It's
that's
stealing
the
stability
fees.
All
of
that
we
really
need
to
know
granularly.
A
E
The
one
a
good
shorthand
when
it
comes
to
it,
you
know
playing
theoretical
things
about
any
kind
of
collateral
type,
is
just
to
take
this
enormous
lis,
complex
process
of
risk
mitigation
and
risk
management
and
coming
up
with
all
these
proposals
and
all
the
financial
modeling
and
all
the
rest
of
it.
But
in
my
mind,
just
to
keep
it
easy
I.
Just
do
it
down
to
this
one
question:
is
there
a
significantly
liquid
market
for
whatever
this
asset
is
because
that
has
to
exist,
or
nothing
else
does
in
our
from
our
perspective?
E
So
if
wvt
see
gains
an
attraction
and
people
are
trading
it
and
there's
their
markets
available
and
the
complexities
around
how
the
community
handles
of
British
token
essentially
or
figured
out,
then
you
know
it's
game
on,
but
until
then
there's
a
lot
of
questions.
I
still
need
to
be
answered.
Yeah.
A
And
if
you
guys
are
particularly
interested
in
governments
and
collateral
and
financial
risk
management,
definitely
join
us
on
our
Thursday
governance
and
risk
calls.
We
have
the
most
Thursday's
definitely
join
them.
There
hosted
by
rich
and
our
CEO
Stephen
Becker
who's,
also
our
head
of
risk,
and
it's
really
really
wonderfully
open
discussion,
so
definitely
join
us
there
on
Thursdays,
I
post
about
them
in
the
same
way
that
I
post
about
these
Tuesday
community
meetings.
So
look
out
for
that.
A
A
All
right
all
right,
so
thank
you
guys
for
attending
the
January.
15Th
community
meeting
appreciate
you
all
being
here.
This
is
going
to
get
thrown
up
on
YouTube
and
post
it
on
our
reddit,
so
feel
free
to
send
for
your
friends
if
they
missed
the
meeting.
I'm
gonna
be
really
excited
for
next
week's.
Thank
you
guys
for
coming
by.