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In the first session of Core Unit Pod Sesions, @Nadia and the team behind GRO-001, the Growth Core Unit dive into the details of their proposal, budget, and execution.
Agenda: https://forum.makerdao.com/t/core-unit-launch-pod-sessions-session-1-growth-core-unit/6711
Governance Forum:
https://forum.makerdao.com/
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A
Hi,
everyone
welcome
to
the
coordinate
launch
pod
sessions.
This
is
session
number
one.
In
this
case
we
have
the
growth
core
unit,
so
nadia
and
her
team
are
here
to
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
what's
happening.
How
are
they
going
to
approach?
A
Well,
this
this
project
in
general,
the
budget,
the
the
whole
mip
potentially
speak
with
the
with
partners,
and
and
see
how
they're
planning
on
tackling
this
so
nadia
without
further
ado.
B
Thank
you,
juan
hi
everyone.
Well,
I
want
to
share
with
you
what
we
have
been
doing
as
the
maker
business
development
team
for
the
maker
foundation
during
these
last
three
years,
and
essentially,
what
we
have
been
doing
is
what
we
want
to
continue
doing,
but
under
the
maker
protocol
in
the
growth
career
unit.
So
I'm
going
to
share
my
screen
just
to
guide
you
through
our
mandate.
I
think
that
will
be
easier.
Give
me
a
second:
are
you
seeing
my
screen.
C
B
B
So
there's
me
who
runs
the
adoption
and
the
finding
new
distribution
channels
for
latin
there's,
also
gusta
for
europe
and
africa.
There's
also
do
for
asia
and
there's
matt
and
jen
for
north
america,
and
we
all
have
been
working
together
doing
this,
because
the
way
we
see
on
how
we
can
achieve
this
getting
more
partners
using
any
of
the
tools
that
the
maker
protocol
has
is
by
understanding
the
market
fee.
B
The
market
feed
of
the
maker
protocol
in
each
region
and
also
verticals,
because
we
have
been
discovering
new
verticals,
like
the
gaming
games
in
blockchain,
also
like
a
regular
gaming
space,
also
dayasa
savings
currency
in
emerging
markets,
and
we
discovered
these
verticals
by
understanding
the
needs
on
each
region.
We
also
well.
We
all
know
that
the
maker
protocol
is
kind
of
complicated
if
we
compare
it
with
other
stable
coins.
B
So
it's
also
important
to
educate
our
partners
on
our
community
about
what
is
die
and
how
can
it
be
used
and
developing
with
them?
These
use
cases
which
are
different
on
each
region.
We
also
always
focus
focusing
our
efforts
on
generate
expansion
and
adoption
of
dye.
That
is
important
because
for
in
one
side,
the
community
is
thinking
about
adding
new
collaterals
and
generating
more
dye
and
injecting
that
dye
into
the
market.
B
So,
on
the
other
side,
we
need
more
partners
using
the
maker
protocol
and
giving
like
all
these
different
services,
so
people
can
have
access
to
the
eye
and
they
can
like
start
using
it.
So
we
are
always
thinking
on
new
integration
strategies
with
each
one
of
our
partners,
because
it's
not
the
same
for
each
one
of
them.
B
So
that's
why
it's
also
important
to
like
be
friends
of
our
partners
and
that
that
is
awesome,
because
during
these
three
years,
that's
what
we
have
been
doing
like
the
maker
community
is
not
just
like
the
ones
that
participate
actively
in
the
forum.
It's
also
all
partners
and
we
have
been
creating
this
awesome
relationship
with
them.
So
for
for,
for
us,
it's
very
important
to
help
them
to
achieve
their
goals,
and
we
do
that
through
all
the
maker
foundation
tools
that
we
have
right
now.
B
What
are
we
proposing
now
is
the
broker
unit
and
our
objective
and
how
we
are
going
to
bring
more
channels
to
the
system
is
by
first
understanding
which
partners
can
help
us
in
that
objective
of
increasing
the
supply
and
demand
of
thai.
In
the
global
market,
and
because
of
that,
we
are
looking
for
partners
who
can
create
new
services
for
borrowers
to
generate
eye
or
new
services
for
users
to
buy
and
sell
die
or
services
in
general,
where
people
can
use
their
die
whatever
they
want.
B
A
A
C
Okay,
I
can,
I
can
jump
in
here.
My
name
is
gustav
and
I've
been
covering
europe
and
then
just
when
I
joined,
I
also
covered
asia
for
a
while,
until
I
do
he,
he
joined
the
team
full
time
and
and
then
took
over
most
of
that
part,
I
still
do
a
little
bit
of
work
there
and
then
I've
also
been
doing
doing
africa.
C
I
joined
yeah
two
and
a
half
years
ago,
and
you
know
a
lot
of
the
things
that
we've
been
focusing
on
in
europe
has
really
been
in.
You
know
getting
in
touch
with
the
emerging
d5
economy.
Here
you
know
like
back
when
I
joined
the
team.
There
was
nothing
called
d5
so
back,
then
there
was
really
just
a
bunch
of
like
different
financial
service
companies
that
tried
to
do
stuff
on
ethereum.
C
So
like.
I
think
that
what
are
some
of
the
things
we've
been
focusing
a
lot
on
is
kind
of
like
establishing
ourselves
within
the
european
d5
market
and
also
trying
to
get
into
some
of
the
the
primary
verticals
that
we
have
been
seeing
coming
out.
Where,
for
example,
in
europe,
we
have
seen
the
debit
card
space
being
very
popular,
also.
C
Door
no
worries.
I
also
brought
a
y-rex
today,
who
is
one
of
our
big
debit
card
partners
here
in
in
the
european
region.
They
also
operate
outside
of
europe
and
then
some
of
the
other
things
that
I've
been
spending
a
lot
of
time
on
has
also
been
in
our
gaming
vertical,
where
I've
been
not
been.
C
The
only
person
doing
that,
but
I've
been
one
of
the
primary
drivers
of
of
making
sure
that
we
could
establish
dyes
and
more
for
gaming
currency
we've
been
doing
that
for
around
a
year
and
a
half,
and
you
know
with
the
with
the
kind
of
like
recent
boom
we
have
seen
in
the
nft
space,
both
within
art
and
games.
I
think
that
you
know
telling
to
focus
on
these
verticals.
C
Quite
early
on
has
been
has
been
pretty
successful
in
in
on
that
field,
and
then
I
think
you
know,
just
to
kind
of
like
put
a
little
bit
more
thought
to
to
the
vertical
thing
as
well
nadia
mentioned
also
earlier.
I
think
we're
the
only
stablecoin
project
that
has
really
been
having
this
like
very
methodical
approach
to
attacking
specific
industries,
and
I
think
it
paid
off
in
a
really
big
way
and
yeah
I'll.
Let
the
the
next
one
go
now.
A
F
Sorry
sorry
dude,
my
well,
my
name
is
mariano.
I've
been
working
almost
two
years
and
a
half
at
maker
foundation,
but
in
the
marketing
team,
and
I
work
very
close
with
nadia
covering
the
whole
latin
american
market,
and
one
of
my
factions
were
precisely
get
together
with
potential
partners
right
and
and
try
to
work
together
on
how
that
can
can
be
the
perfect
product
for
our
partners
right.
It's
just
not
just
that.
F
We
told
them
how
to
implement,
but
we
craft
like
the
whole,
go
to
market
strategy
right.
We
sit
down
with
our
partners
and,
and
we
see
what
what
what
they
have
in
mind,
what
they
do,
what
they
their
customers
want,
and
what
is
the
thing
that
they
are
expecting
to
implement
die
and
that
kind
of
things
right.
F
What
what
they
really
need
to
do
why
they
would
prefer
die
over
other
things,
not
just
stable
kinds
right,
like
other
things,
any
other
fine
arts
and
things,
and
that
was
a
long
journey
that
we
that
we
did
and-
and
we
try
to
find.
You
know
like
this
special
thing
in
each
country,
because
sometimes
when
you
talk
about
latin
america,
sometimes
it
seems
like
a
like
big
country
right.
It's
like!
F
Well,
all
the
people
there
could
have
like
the
same
manners
and
custom,
but
it's
not
like
that
right
and
one
of
the
hardest
things
for
us
is
also
to
realize
that
right,
it's
just
people
from
argentina
and
and
the
in
the
financial
needs
of
the
people
from
washington.
It's
like
very,
very
different
from
the
people
from
chile,
and
we
are
right
next
to
chile,
right
and
and
and
that's
the
things
that
we
are
trying
to
do
in
in
latin
america,
and
we
want
to
continue
to
do
that
with
the
world
career
unit
right.
F
Doing
all
of
the
the
things
that
maybe
the
partner
is
at
this
point
doesn't
have
like
the
the
proper
expertise
right
and,
and
we
do
have.
We
know
that
we
we,
the
thing
that
we
need
is
to
work
together
with
the
with
the
potential
partner
to
to
graph
a
unique
product
right,
because
that
is
the
thing
we
are
seeing
now
like
a
whole
bunch
of
different
stable
coins
and
for
the
case,
the
use
of
a
stable
coin
could
be
kind
of
like
a
financial
commodity
right
because
it's
like
a
dollar
value,
but
we
die.
F
We
try
to
find
that
precise
case
that
you
need
case
that
fulfills
the
expectation
of
the
part.
E
E
I
usually
focus
on
east
asia,
but
do
touch
on
east
asia,
such
as
singapore,
as
well
as
australia,
and
then
also
sometimes
some
parts
of
eastern
europe
as
well.
So,
as
you
know,
asia
has
been
a
big
market
for
maker
as
well
as
d5.
China
itself
is
a
number
one
or
two
in
terms
of
generation,
of
like
a
big
balls
and
die,
and
then
whether
it's
exchanges
to
otcs
to
many
different
dfs.
E
We
have
implemented
that
here
as
well
as
I
do
also
want
to
mention
that
it
still
has
all
the
potential,
as
people
are
still
learning
about
how
to
use
decentralized,
stable
point
and
in
many
ways
everything
regarding
maker
foundation,
as
well
as
like
the
confidence
everything
is
working
smoothly.
But
behind
the
I
guess,
all
this
mechanics
there's
also
a
lot
of
work
that
we
will
put
into
it
like,
for
example,
whether
it's
a
migration
from
side
to
side.
You
know,
there's
a
reason
why
you
know
he
was
able
to
be.
E
You
know
done
pretty
smoothly
because
because
we're
able
to
contact
hundreds
of
partners
and
try
to
encompass
them
and
help
with
them,
so
I
think
that
others
can
probably
introduce
more
of
the
system.
But
you
know
I
do
want
to
mention
that
including
asia
and
other
regions,
it's
growing
very
fast,
and
then
we've
been
also
in
helping
to
make
sure
they're
smooth
and
keep
growing.
G
Hey
everyone,
my
name
is
jen
senhaji.
I
work
in
the
u.s,
so
I'm
based
in
new
jersey,
near
new
york
city.
It's
some
people
may
not
be
so
familiar
with
new
jersey,
but
I've
been
with
the
maker
foundation
for
almost
three
years,
so
working
really
closely
with
greg
deprisco
who's
been
leading
this
team
during
that
time-
and
you
know
the
us
and
really
north
america
has
been-
has
seen
a
lot
of
growth.
Just
like
the
other
regions.
G
G
G
You
know
how
dye
is
different,
what
it
brings
to
them
and
what's
unique
about
it,
so
that
that
requires
a
lot
of
investment
in
time
and
educating
individual
organizations
and
protocols.
G
So
where
we
are
now
today
is
really
exciting,
considering
you
know
where
things
were
about
three
years
ago,
so
you
know
some
of
my
focus
has
been
continuing
to
look
for
those
distribution
channels
and
also
looking
to
break
into
new
verticals
like
the
digital
art
and
nft
space,
which
we've
seen
a
lot
of.
G
You
know
great
momentum
with
and
one
of
my
partners
who
you
got
a
little
chance
to
meet
in
the
beginning:
snark
art,
I'm
really
excited
about
them
and
and
their
integration
with
dye
and
bringing
a
dye
to
you
know
actually
more
traditional
art
collectors
and
artists
themselves.
So
it's
it's
exciting
to
work
with
partners
like
them
who
are
really
going
to
be
the
bridge
to
the
traditional
world
and
in
different
verticals.
G
You
know,
I
personally
think
you
know
we're
at
this
point
where
die
is,
is
really
situated
to
be
as
instrumental
in
the
nft
space
as
it
is
in
d5
and
we've
we've
kind
of
gotten.
You
know
an
early
start
on
that
with
by
working
with
a
lot
of
different
nft
platforms
and
and
more
artists
themselves.
So
I
think
in
the
next
year
you
know
we're
gonna
see
a
lot
more
partners
within
that
space,
which
I
find
really
exciting
so
other
than
that
you
know
I'll,
pass
it
over
to
matt.
D
Thanks,
I'm
sorry
about
before
someone
was
knocking
on
my
door,
so
I
also
work
I'm
from
new
york,
I'm
right
now
in
in
florida,
but
was
working
to
I
joined
summer
2019.
So
it's
a
year
and
a
half
or
so
oh
my
camera.
D
One
second
I'll
figure
this
out.
They
start
talking,
but
I
joined
about
a
year
and
a
half
or
so
and
was
with
jen
and
and
greg
in
new
york.
You
see
me
hear
you
jen
and
greg
in
new
york
supporting
the
you
know,
north
american
region,
but
also
working
with
dew,
gustav
nadia
kind
of
supporting
their
efforts.
D
You
know
around
the
globe
and
making
sure
that
as
partners
came
in,
they
were
you
know
whether
it's
through
our
intros
or
our
business
development,
email,
making,
sure
they're
all
talking
to
the
appropriate
bdas
development
associates
around
the
world,
and
I
think,
when
I
joined
there
was
maybe
150
or
200
integrated
partners
and
die.
D
I
remember
putting
together
that
first
list
and
it's
like
in
a
year
and
a
half
we
probably
have
over
a
thousand
now
so
there's
been
a
huge
you
know
kind
of
like
what
goose
I
was
saying.
I
didn't
quite
join
when
there
was
no
such
thing
as
d5.
D5
was
a
thing,
but
I've
seen
incredible
growth.
Just
you
know,
within
a
year
and
a
half,
it's
it's
totally
different
so
being
here
in
new
york
has
been
a
great.
D
You
know
place
to
kind
of
see
all
the
action,
but
it's
been,
you
know
really
interesting
to
see
between
nfts
and
all
the
exchanges
we've
been
working
with
and
real
world
products.
You
know
supporting
that
type
of
growth,
so
you
know
looking
forward
to
getting
more
work
done.
I
think
there's
definitely
a
lot
more
growth
to
be
had.
H
Yeah
hi
everyone,
I'm
lewis,
and
I'm
like
the
the
new
yeah
we're
here
so
yeah
I've
been
like
working
for
maker
dao
below
the
diet,
action
groups
and
since
I
think
it
was
august
and
last
year,
but
I
thought
I
have
been
a
member
of
the
of
the
community
of
maker
dial
since
2018,
and
I
have
been
doing
like
a
lot
of
work
of
translation
and
marketing
and
side
to
side
with
mariano
and
nadia
these
past
years
we
have
created
a
lot
of
community
and
a
lot
of
educations
even
blocks
and
a
lot
of
stuff
about
microchild
in
spanish.
H
So
like
the
partners
and
a
lot
of
people
have
like
the
info
in
their
native
in
their
native
language
and
yeah,
and
so
these
past
years
we
have
a
create
a
lot
of
good
alliances
here.
On,
for
example,
my
country
is
venezuela
and
a
lot
of
information
and
that
we
have
produced
to
the
partners
and
yeah.
We
have
things
and
yeah.
As
I
said,
I'm
the
new
guy
here.
So
I
am
pretty
excited.
I
I
eager
to
to
do
a
pretty
good
work
here
with
the
guys
and
yeah.
B
Cool,
so
should
we
go
with
our
partners
or
do
you
want
to
ask
us
something
before
because
we
wanted
to
prepare
this
special
guest
a
part
and,
and
we
want
we
bro,
we
bring.
We
brought
some
partners
from
different
regions
to
the
call,
because
for
us
it's
very
important
that
you
can
know
them
and
they
can
tell
you
about
the
work
they
have.
They
have
been
doing
with
our
team
in
the
past
and
why
die
is
an
important
part
of
their
product
or
service
and
how
they
are
growing
with
with
the
maker
protocol.
A
A
So
what
are
these
tools
that
you
guys
use
both
individually
and
as
a
team
right
so
when,
whenever
you're,
either
new
in
a
region
or
or
trying
to
grow
it?
What
well?
How
do
you
identify
who's
going
to
or
who's
a
good
partner,
then
how
do
you
choose
them,
how
they
work
with
them?
And
what's
the
the
cycle
like.
B
Well,
we
right
now
we
are
in
a
different
position
than
three
years
ago,
where,
where
no
one
knew
what
maker
dao
was
or
even
no
one
knew
what
I
was
in
the
past
right
now,
it's
completely
different.
B
So
at
the
beginning,
our
process
was
more
focused
on
understanding
the
region
or
the
country,
or
even
the
vertical,
and
trying
to
find
the
right
partner
like
the
partner
who
could
like
be
or
like
or
partner
from
the
heart,
so
a
partner
who
could
be
possibly
exclusively
die.
B
Integration
like
they
were
like
they
were
committed
with
us
to
develop
the
integration
and
develop
the
use
case
around
that
integration,
and
after
doing
that,
we
we
had
material
to
show
to
that
specific
community
what
they
could
do
with
dye,
because
I
think
that's
important
like
for
us
like.
We
know
what
dye
is
and
we
can
use
it
in
different
d5
platforms.
But
if
we
are
looking
for
adoption,
we
need
to
do
it
using
our
partners
in
each
country
because
they
know
what
people
need
in
that
specific
geography.
B
So,
instead
of
just
talking
about
dying,
we
are
talking
about
a
product
or
a
service.
That
is
using
dye
in
the
back
and
for
us,
that's
that's
very,
very
important
like
well.
You
will.
You
will
see
when
you
hear
the
experience
of
our
partners
like
they.
If
you,
if
you
think
about
wirex
where
x
is
a
card
or
you
can
inspect
and
spend
your
crypto,
but
the
the
important
thing
of
that
is
not
die
is
that
there
is
a
product
where
you
can
use
die.
B
So
what
we
are
doing
in
our
team
is
trying
to
find
these
use
cases
for
die.
It
could
be
a
using
a
credit
card.
It
will.
It
could
be
using
die
as
a
savings
currency
like
in
the
case
of
one
bit,
an
exchange
in
argentina
like
the
biggest
one
who
is
exclusively
showing
argentinian
people.
How
dai
can
save
them
from
inflation.
B
So
we
are
always
creating
those
use
cases
for
with
our
partners
to
create
products
and
services,
but
it's
not
it's
not
die,
is
the
product
and
or
the
service,
which
is
the
the
important
part
of
this.
So
after
we
find
this
this
partner,
who
will
help
us
to
open
that
door
in
that
country
or
in
that
vertical
or
in
that
geography?
B
We
start
like
communicating
that
use
case,
doing
meetups
like
explaining
to
the
media.
What
we
are
doing
sometimes
is
the
crypto
media.
Sometimes
we
talk
to
the
mainstream
media
and
then
we
start
like
reaching
more
and
more
partners,
and
that's
our
secret
sauce
over
there,
like
every
bb
person,
is
very
proactive,
reaching
out
people
reaching
out
companies
proposing
them
use
cases
we
are
not
just
talking
about.
B
So
after
we
do
that,
we
start
like
reaching
even
more
important
part
partners
in
that
specific
region
or
geography
or
vertical,
and
that
help
us
to
grow
and
to
create
a
message,
a
particular
message
for
that
specific
audience
that
we
are
that
we
want
to
reach.
So
that's
that's
the
general
process
like
if
you
want
to
see
it
in
detail.
It
is
in
in
our
proposal.
We
explain,
step
by
step
how
we
do
that.
B
Actually,
we
are
very
organized
thanks
to
greg
who
who
created
this
framework
and
we
use
crm
where
we
have
a
older
partners
and
what
we
are
doing
with
them
and
we
at
which
point
they
are
in
data
integration
with
the
maker
protocol,
and
one
thing
that
I
I
really
like
is
that,
as
as
all
the
team
mentioned,
we
want
a
long-term
relation
with
our
partners
because
we
want
to
help
help
them
to
grow
with
the
maker
protocol.
B
So
we
are
continuously
talking
with
them
and
thinking
about
more
ideas,
so
every
time
that
the
community
launches
a
new
collateral
or
a
new
feature
or
whatever
we
are
creating
a
use
case
for
that
and
talking
with
our
partners.
So
we
can
launch
that
to
the
world.
B
So
that's
like
the
general
process
of
what
we
do
in
our
work.
C
Yeah,
I
would
also
just
at
one
thing
here
is
that
we
we
also
kind
of
like
become
these
contact
persons,
that
you
know
all
the
partners
that
we've
been
in
contact
with
right
and
you
know,
as
matt
also
mentioned,
we
we
have
in
the
team,
manage
over
a
thousand
integrations
of
die
as
a
minimum,
but
in
several
cases
also
vaults
or
dsr
when
that
was
live.
C
But
but
you
know,
and-
and
we
have
been
talking
on
on
top
of
that-
we
have
more
than
a
thousand
partners
or
projects
potential
partners
and
projects
that
is
still
in
the
pipeline
of
going
through
this
process
right
and
every
single
time.
There's
changes
happening
to
the
system
every
single
time.
There's
you
know
any
upgrades
or,
for
example,
like
when
the
psm
was
implemented
or
any
of
these
things
right
people
they
come
to
us
to
get
information
right
I
mean,
I
think,
all
of
us.
C
Our
protocol
can
be
a
vital
part
of
their
business,
but
they
don't
have
the
time
to
stay
up
to
date
with
everything
themselves,
so
we
also
kind
of
act
as
these
kind
of,
like
you
know,
information
pillars
or
something
that
that
you
know
the
partners
will
you
know
reach
out
to,
and
another
thing
is
also
that
we
one
thing
that
we've
also
been
doing
a
lot
is,
is
helping
you
know
people
grow
within
our
ecosystem,
so,
for
example,
if
we
get
a
partner
coming
in
and
we
see
that
they
have
synergies
with
other
projects
in
our
ecosystem,
so
we
can,
you
know,
grow
not
only
them,
but
also
the
other
partners
with
them
and
die
at
the
same
time.
C
We
also
facilitate
these
introductions
and
kind
of
like
help
to
then
facilitate
growth
for
the
people
using
dye.
So
it's
kind
of,
like
you
know,
using
dye
not
only
becomes
a
stable
coin.
It
becomes.
You
know
this
strong
use
case,
but
it
can
also
be
that
you
unlock
these
new
partnerships
for
the
individual
projects
that
we
then
help
facilitate,
and
I
think
you
know
that
that
is
also
like
a
big
value.
Add
that
we
had
to
the
ecosystem
is
that
we
constantly
try
to
see
how
can
we
make
the
ecosystem
better
and
stronger?
C
B
That's
right
and-
and
I
think
one
one
of
the
of
the
coolest
things
is
that
we
we
are
all
in
different
geographies.
So
if
I'm
talking
with
a
a
partner
in
latin
america-
and
they
want
to
go
to
asia
to
do
business
or
they
are
looking
for
vcs
or
whatever
like
there's
do,
who
can
help
them
and
he
he
can
always
make
intros.
And
all
of
that.
So
I
think
we.
B
We
are
not
just
a
a
point
of
contact
for
our
partners,
but
also
for,
like
other
regions
like
if
they
want
to
grow
into
other
regions.
We
can
also
help
them
to
do
that,
so
we
are
committed
with,
of
course,
the
maker
protocol,
the
maker
dao
ecosystem,
but
also
with
our
partners.
That's
that's
great.
C
I
Sorry,
yes,
I
I'm
literally
driving
to
the
hospital
where
my
wife
may
be
having
a
baby
right
now,
so
I
am
yeah.
If
I,
if
I
have
to
hang
up
quickly,
that's
why
but
I'll
try
to
be
quick.
I
just
wanted
to
say
two
things
one.
You
know
I
think
a
lot
of
the
team
mentioned
that
I've
been
leading
the
bd
team
for
a
while.
You
might
notice
that
I'm
not
joining
the
core
unit
that
in
no
way
lack
due
to
a
lack
of
confidence.
I
I
I
think,
as
a
leader,
you
know,
you've
been
successful
when
your
entire
team
outperforms
you
almost
immediately
and
that's
what
happened
here
so
yeah.
I
it's
been
a
really
really
great
time
with
these
guys
and
I
I
would
love
to
see
them
get
on
board
that
they're
excellent.
A
J
I
don't
know
it's
cool
I'll,
be
the
bug
in
a
rug
this
time.
So
I
would
I
would
echo
craig
by
saying
like
I
know
you
guys
are
fantastic,
but
I'm
mostly
just
kind
of
curious,
there's,
quite
an
overlap
with
the
integrations
team
right.
That's
part
of
the
process.
Is
that
correct?
Am
I
understanding
that.
B
And
another
lab
oh
well,
the
integrations
team
is
is
the
part
of
the
team
who
helps
us
with
our
partners
when
they
need
technical
help.
So
the
integrations
team
during
these
years
has
been
very
helpful
because
they
have
created
a
lot
of
documentation,
so
our
partners
can
go
straight
forward
to
it
and
find
how
to
integrate,
die
your
votes
into
their
systems,
but
if
that's
not
enough,
they
are
always
open
to
help
them
and
guide
them.
And
it's
it's
like
our
technical
arm.
B
When
we
are
doing
an
integration
with
a
partner,
so
yeah
they
are
like
they
are.
They
are
very,
very
important
for
us.
J
B
Complicated,
yes,
yes,
well,
they
they
are
thinking
about
their
their
own
career
unit.
Because,
right
now
we
work
as
a
team
like
there's
the
bd
team,
there's
the
integrations
team
and
we
have
these
weekly
calls
and
we
work
like
we
have
this
coordinated
work
and
we
pretend
to
do
the
same
in
the
future
as
individual
career
units
helping
each
other
and
and
who
knows,
maybe
there
there
will
be
more
like
integration,
core
units
with
different
approaches,
and
we
could
also
work
with
them.
That
will
be.
C
Right
should
I
start
off
with
with
mine
yeah.
I
think
I'll
do
that.
So
with
me
today,
I've
brought
georgie
circolo
from
wirex.
C
They
were
actually
one
of
the
first
companies
I
started
talking
to
when
I
joined
maker
two
and
a
half
years
ago.
So
it's
been
a
long
relationship
and
we've
been
working
on
them
on
on
a
a
variety
of
different
fronts,
and
I've
also
visited
them
in
kiev.
So
it's
a
pretty
pretty
close
relationship
and
georgie
I'll.
Let
you
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
how
it's
been
working
with
us.
K
Hi
guys,
I'm
georgie
one
of
the
co-founders
of
wirex
and
looking
at
key
partnerships
and
maker
so
far
has
been
one
of
the
best
and
most
successful
partnerships
we've
had
in
the
crypto
space.
Obviously
we're
we're
connected
in
both
the
traditional
financial
world
and
and
the
crypto
for
those
who
don't
know
much
about
wirex
we've
been
around
for
quite
a
while.
For
this
industry
we
launched
our
first
product
back
in
2015
very
early
2015..
K
At
the
time
the
idea
was
to
give
people
crypto
users
so
effectively
bitcoin
users
at
the
time,
an
opportunity
to
spend
their
cryptocurrency,
which
was
unheard
of
at
the
time.
Even
now,
it's
still
not
obvious
how
you
can
spend
your
bitcoin
or
die
to
buy
yourself
a
coffee,
but
back
back,
then
it
was
completely
impossible.
So
one
way
was
to
go
around
and
try
to
convince
every
single
merchant
to
start
accepting
cryptos,
which
some
companies
still
see
as
a
way
forward,
but
well
good
luck
with
that.
K
K
So
in
the
beginning,
it
was
just
bitcoin
and
just
us
dollars
on
the
prepaid
card
very
basic
website
with
two
pages
which
were
completely
bootstrapped,
just
literally
three
guys
with
a
laptop,
not
not
a
crazy
ico
from
2017
with
silly
money
and
no
products,
and
now
we've
evolved
effectively
into
a
pretty
much
a
new
bank
on
new
rails.
K
So
think
of
it,
as
I
don't
know
in
europe
would
be
probably
revoluting
in
in
the
states,
would
be
something
like
china.
But,
apart
from
your
traditional
fiat
accounts,
your
international
bank
account
numbers.
I
bans
in
either
euros
or
gbp
or
other
different
regional
currencies.
K
You
also
get
your
debit
card
that
allows
you
to
spend
any
funds
either
fiat
or
crypto,
and
you
also
get
all
your
crypto
wallets
in
it.
And
it's
not
just
artificial
exposure
to
crypto.
As
quite
a
number
of
applications
have
you
can
actually
deposit
and
withdraw
your
own
crypto.
K
We
don't
do
private
keys
for
users
because
it's
more
of
a
mass
product-
and
it's
maybe
too
complex
for
for
a
neighbor's
job-
to
to
handle
their
private
keys,
maybe
not
for
the
typical
person
on
this
kind
of
call.
But
for
for
the
typical
client
it
is
difficult.
So,
but
people
can
control
what
they
do,
so
they
can
send
it
to
another
wallet
deposit
from
their
own
wallet
and
yeah.
K
It
was
probably
just
about
when
gustav
joined,
that
we
started
talking,
and
I
was
one
of
the
first
coins
that
we
added
apart
from
the
likes
of
bitcoin
or
ethereum
or
litecoin,
and
that
was
just
the
first
step
and
then
we
moved
on
to
to
you
know,
develop
this
partnership.
So,
firstly,
dye
is
so
far
the
only
stable
coin
on
works.
That
is
that's
available
there.
K
Then
it
can
obviously
be
spent
with
wirex
cards
and
to
the
best
of
my
knowledge,
everyone,
if
not
or
almost
everyone
on
the
foundation
team,
actually
has
a
wirex
card,
because
people
and
partners
get
paid
or
funded
in
die
and
then
they
can
just
go
and
spend
it.
So
that's
kind
of
the
you
know.
K
Otherwise,
you
would
be
kind
of
shoeman
with
no
shoes
right,
so
it's
it's
a
living
proof
of
the
the
fact
that
it's
you
know
a
working
product,
it's
in
demand,
and
there
are
many
other
ideas
we
have
in
in
in
the
planning
process.
I
don't
know
whether
it's
okay
to
mention
all
of
them
or
not
on
this
call,
but
hopefully
yeah
there
will
be
not
just
die.
There
will
be
maker
in
one
form
or
another
as
well
and
other
things
to
come
as
well.
K
So
if
you
that's
probably
like
a
brief
introduction
appreciating
everyone's
time,
if
you
have
any
questions
happy
to
answer.
K
You
he
visits
at
our
office
in
kiev.
Together
with
I
think
tobin.
It
was
the
cfo
and
petra
guy
from
the
development
team
and
yeah
we're
headquartered
in
london,
but
the
biggest
office
and
the
biggest
team
is
in
ukraine
and
kiev.
That's
our
r
d
center.
All
the
developers,
designers,
24
7
customer
support
are
all
based
there
and
every
summer.
Well,
this
summer
was
somewhat
exceptional.
For
now
we
have
a
big
party
for
employees
and
partners.
K
A
Georgie,
when
can
work,
can
people
learn
more
about
wirex
and
I
don't
know,
ask
you
questions
and
ask
you
for
coupons
or
something.
K
Well,
coupons,
it's
yeah,
we
do
run
occasional
promotions
every
now
and
then,
for
for,
for
you
know,
could
be
for
dive
et
cetera.
Maybe
we'll
do
something
in
the
near
future,
but
the
website
is
wirixab.com.
K
We
are
also
on
social
media
on
various
channels.
It's
just
probably
not
not
not
the
best
way
to
recommend
social
media,
because,
especially
these
days
during
the
bull
run,
there's
so
many
impersonators
coming
and
trying
to
cheat
people
into
believing
that
they
are
the
customer
service
representatives
or
whatever.
So
probably
the
the
safest
place
would
be
to
go
to
the
website
wirexapp.com
and
yeah.
It's
all
there
otherwise
feel
free
to
reach
out
myself
or
buy
good
stuff
yeah
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
G
Great
I'd
like
to
introduce
my
partners
from
snark
art
next
nadia,
another
nadia
and
andy.
G
You
know
they're
one
of
our
more
recent
partners
who
I
discovered,
as
I
was
kind
of
going
down,
my
own
new
rabbit,
hole
of
digital
art
and
nfts
back
in
the
fall,
and
I
was
just
really
excited
when
I
discovered
them
because
they
are.
You
know
they
have
incredible
experience
in
the
traditional
art
world
and
a
lot
of
great
connections
to
prestigious
art,
institutions
and
museums,
and
they
really
have
a
high
level
quality
of
curation
with
with
their
platform,
and
they
are
also
quite
innovative
in
that
they
are.
G
They
introduced
crypto
as
a
way
to
purchase
some
of
the
the
works
on
their
their
platform.
So
I
I'd
like
to
introduce
you
to
them.
Nadia
and
andy.
If
you
wanna,
say
quick
few
words
about
yourself.
M
Sure
yeah,
hello,
hello,
my
name
is
angela
kim.
I
was
born
and
raised
in
russia,
and
now
I
live
in
new
york.
But
right
now,
I'm
in
russia.
Back
in
russia,
my
parents
got
sick,
like
with
kovit
and
I'm
spending
some
time
here
but
yeah
we
started
snark
about
three
years
ago
we
were
one
of
pioneers
of
nfts.
M
For
a
couple
of
years,
we
were
focusing
on
a
custom
project,
so
we
worked
with
established
artists
to
develop
very
complicated
projects
like
it
took
like
maybe
like
six
to
eight
months
to
develop
each
project,
and
then
we
were
selling
them
like
our
projects.
Now,
in
collection
of
major
museums
is,
for
example,
wiki
museum
owns
a
piece
of
our
artworks
and
we've
been
experimenting
with
nfts
from
the
day
one,
but
like
recently
when
pandemic
started,
and
we
saw
that
a
lot
of
artists
lost
their
income.
M
Traditional
artists,
we
thought
that
it's
the
right
timing
and
we
started
a
platform.
So
now
we
like,
we
have
a
platform
where
artists
can
upload
their
artworks
and
can
offer
them
to
collectors,
and
we
are
doing
pretty
well.
The
market
is
booming
and
recently
like
just
this
week,
we
started.
Actually
it
was
yesterday.
We
started
doing
drops
and
we
we
did
first
drop
with
norwegian
artists
and
it
was
a
huge
success.
M
So
yeah,
that's
that's
who
we
are
and
yeah
like
we
curation
is
like
what
differs
us
from
everybody
else.
We
are
more
like
on
the
traditional
art
market
side
in
terms
of
curation
and
in
terms
of
using
dye
like
we
are
quite
like
for
the
traditional
artists,
the
whole
idea
that
artworks
should
like
shoot
raise
in
in
the
price
just
because
the
currency
goes
up.
It's
something
weird
you
know
so
was
we
were
super
happy
to
introduce,
die
and
like
we're
like
we're,
enjoying
like
more
sales
in
this
bull
run.
L
And
it
is
also
our
communication
with
artists
pretty
well,
because
you
know,
instead
of
explaining
artists
the
difference
with
prices
that
they
might
experience
because
of
ethereum.
Here
we
agreed
on
a
certain
price
and
everybo.
L
Everyone
is
happy
and
beside
that
we
also
did
a
tremendous
step
in
income
in
partnership
with
dai
with
dao,
with
make
it
our
community,
because
one
of
our
artists
created
a
series
that
called
crypto
heroes
and
one
of
the
works
was
dedicated
to
die
and
it's
it's
a
very
cool
work
and
we
had
single
edition,
unique
artwork
and
also
a
limited
edition
that
is
dedicated
to
die.
So
it's
it's
very
cool
that
dao
community
now
has
this
artwork.
A
L
Yeah
sure
you
can
find
us,
of
course,
we
also
do
now
the
I
don't
know
if
you're
in
clubhouse,
we
are
planning
to
do
a
series
of
talk
dedicated
to
nfts
and
we
will
be
very
happy
if
we
can
do
one
with
jennifer
with
with
service
dive,
because
I
think
if
there
will
be
there
might
be
very
high
interest
to
such
talks,
because
we
think
that
one
of
our
roles
is
we
are
like
between
two
markets
between
traditional
market
and
crypto
art
market.
L
It's
a
the
educational
component
is
very
important.
This
is
what
we
do
as
well
for
traditional
collectors,
to
kind
of
make
them
feel
comfortable
to
start
to
collect
the
digital
assets
and
see
how
they
could
improve
and
be
excited
about
the
artwork.
So
an
artworks
are
pretty
good
start
to
involve
people
you
encrypt
more
and
more
so.
L
G
Thank
you,
yeah.
I'm
excited
about
the
the
year
ahead.
F
Okay,
I
I
can
introduce
you
to
henry.
He
is
the
general
and
manager
of
bombing
our
main
partner
in
argentina,
and
I
think
it
was
one
of
the
most
very
successful
story
in
the
vintage
environment
here
in
argentina.
J
Thank
you,
mariano.
First
of
all,
I
want
to
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
of
introducing
webby
to
this
meeting.
It's
nice
to
see
so
many
countries
get
together
for
that
same
purpose.
I
think
it's
part
of
the
globalization
of
economics
as
well
like
kind
of
a
bridge
between
countries
depending
on
the
on
and
off
crops
when
beat
started
as
a
regular
exchange
in
argentina.
J
It's
very
hard
economically,
because
the
politics
change
their
economic
strategy
every
four
years
and
with
the
new
government
buying
dollars
in
argentina,
was
very
hard.
It's
a
maximum
of
two
hundred
dollars
per
person
per
month.
We
suffer
inflation
of
about
40
percent
in
a
year.
J
That's
a
lot,
and
we
have
a
government
that
says
that
we
should
be
saving
argentinian
pesos,
but
within
40
percent
inflation
annually,
it's
very
hard
to
be
able
to
save
up
you
know
and
even
get
apartments
and
places
to
leave,
so
it
started
up
as
a
as
a
solution
for
argentines.
J
Sorry
we're
building
up
a
new
office.
Well,
it's
kind
of
a
construction
place.
So
basically
one
of
the
things
I
heard
john.
C
J
About
I
heard
you
talk
about
education
is
very
important,
especially
when
we're
introducing
cryptocurrencies
to
argentines.
It
was
a
kind
of
a
challenge
at
the
beginning,
because
the
argentinian
is
used
to
the
u.s
cash
use
dollars
in
the
cash
form.
So
one
of
the
things
we
made
a
lot
of
effort
is
with
blogs
and
podcasts
and
a
lot
of
marketing
there
marianna
really
helped
us
focus
on
on
the
on
the
use
of
that.
You
know
as
a
tool
as
a
savings
tool.
Vcr
came
up,
it
was.
J
I
I
saw
tim
right
about
dcr's
coming
back.
We
really
want
that
to
come
back,
but.
E
J
We
had
a
little
help
from
maker
to
work
our
way
around
to
still
offer
investments
in
argentina.
Today,
we're
going
to
say,
we
have
over
300
000
users
in
one
year
more
of
40
000
users
are
investing
in
die
in
bandwidth.
J
So
that
was
kind
of
exciting
as
a
closing
of
our
first
year
as
a
new
way
of
working.
We
don't
really
compete
with
our
exchanges,
because
our
focus
is
the
no
pointers
right
people
that
never
have
bought
a
cryptocurrency
for
them
to
be
able
to
to
get
to
know
this
world
to
get
to
know
the
technology
to
get
to
know
the
risks
involving
the
maker
day
of
motherboards
and
nothing.
We're
really
really
excited
to
cover
argentinians,
really
trust
the
beat
really
trust
die
and
start
using
it.
J
As
a
as
a
transaction
point
we
can
see
in
our
ebay
and
our
local
people
already
posting,
I
accept
as
a
payment
and
always
trying
to
find
new
ways
of
introducing
die
to
argentinians
as
a
solution
either
for
movements
for
savings,
we're
actually
building
up
a
decentralized
wallet
or
die,
and
looking
forward
to
to
provide
this
solution
to
other
countries
that
peru
colombia,
even
maybe
venezuela,
louise
we're
trying
to
to
get
yeah,
because
because
we
have
some
of
some
of
our
people
also
work
from
venezuela,
and
they
tell
us
about
some
of
the
problems
they
have
when
they
are
paying
in
u.s
dollars.
J
Like
cash,
they
don't
have.
You
can't
really
get
pocket
money
or
change.
You
know.
Maybe
you
have
to
pay
a
37
dollar
transaction
with
a
50
dollar
bill
and
they're
going
to
tell
you
I
don't
have
to
change.
So
that's
that's
kind
of
a
not
idealistic
situation
so
with,
ideally
with
dye
and
big
data,
we'll
be
able
to
provide
those
those
things
with
a
regular
cell
phone.
A
Nice
yeah,
I
don't
care
if
you
said:
where
can
people
find
more
about
buenbeet.
J
Yes,
here,
I'm
gonna
write
on
the
chat
for
everyone
to
have
our
web
page
and
if
you
guys
have
any
questions
about
argentina
and
our
expansion,
america,
I'm
gonna
give
you
my
email,
so
you
can
contact
me.
We
don't
really
do
support
in
english.
So
if
you
guys
want
to
ask
something
to
the
to
our
team
in
the
webpage,
they
might
not
answer
you.
In
english.
N
Yeah,
I
got
a
question.
This
is
more
for
the
pd
teams
right.
N
No
longer
this
is
going
to
be
a
post
foundation
movement.
How
do
you
think
you're
going
to
scale
die
compared
to
the
previous
12
months?
I
mean
you
know
this
is
post-foundation
right,
so
I
would
imagine
you're
gonna
have
more
freedom.
You're
gonna
have
the
ability
to
get
die
out
to
the
masses
like?
How
can
we
get
the
maker
community
to
scale
die
to
maybe.
B
Yes,
well,
we
are
very
excited
about
all
these
new
possibilities.
That
of
the
car
unit
will
bring
us
because,
right
now,
working
for
the
foundation
like
we
depend
a
lot
on
what
what
legal
recommend
us
so
being
a
independent,
a
company
project
under
the
the
growth
core
unit.
I
think
we
will.
We
will
we'll
do
like
a
lot
of
things
that
in
the
past
we
couldn't
like
sharing
more
information
with
the
community
like
we.
B
We
will
need
also
the
the
extra
support
hands
of
the
community,
to
find
even
more
partners
and
to
tell
people
all
the
use
cases
that
we
are
creating
with
dai,
and
I
think
that's
that's.
What
makes
us
different
than
other
stable
coins
that
we
are
just
not
talking
about
die.
B
We
are
talking
about
all
partners
and
the
products
they
are
doing
and
if
we
can
like
count
with
you
guys
from
the
community
and
your
contacts
and
er
er
your
like
the
way
you
do
things
to
tell
your
people
what
we
are
doing
as
the
growth
community.
I
think
we
can.
We
could
reach
more
people.
I
think
the
work
we
are
doing
right
now.
B
We
will
not
change
that
much
when
we,
when
we
start
being
independent
from
the
foundation
and
and
start
like,
like
the
core
unit,
because,
like
we
will
do
the
same
and
is
the
process
that
I
I
explained
you
before,
we
will
be
reaching
our
partners,
the
ones
we
already
know.
We
want
to
growth
in
different
regions.
We
want
to
be
bigger
in
africa
and
try
to
replicate
what
we
did
in
latin
america
in
africa
and
like
position
die
as
a
savings
currency.
B
We
want
to
explore
other
regions
like
middle
east
asia.
We
want
like.
We
want
to
do
things
that
before
we
didn't
do
so,
I
think
it's
like
a
great
opportunity,
this
one
of
creating
your
career
unit
and
with
the
help
of
the
community
and
your
ideas
and
the
new
career
units
that
will
appear.
I
think
that
will
be
even
more
exciting
than
before,
because
in
the
past
we
worked
like
a.
B
We
were
all
just
the
the
guys
you
already
met
just
this
is
the
team
of
the.
This
is
the
bb
team
and
we
were
all
doing
what
we
just
mentioned,
like
thinking
about
use
cases
reaching
people
finding
new
partners,
but
I
think
that
now
with
the
community,
we
can
like
share
our
thoughts
with
you
and
start
planning
with
you
with
the
community,
and
that
will
also
help
the
community,
because
you
will
also
understand
how
dai
is
being
used
in
other
in
the
in
the
world,
and
you
can
make
decisions.
B
The
governance
decisions,
understanding
the
usage
of
die
like
for
example.
Right
now
is
the
gas
fees
are
very
complicated
in
emerging
markets,
because
if
you
are
using
die
for
saving
your
er
for
you
for
saving
a
paying
for
these
ridiculous
gas
piece
is
like
it
kills
the
use
case.
F
May
I
may
I
add
something
now
yeah
we
are
following
really
close:
all
the
real
world
assets
development
on
the
protocol,
and
we
think
that
I
mean
real
world
asset.
It's
it's
a
it's
a
game
changer
for
me
right,
it's
a
game,
changer
and
it's
something
that
we
are
following
really
close,
because
we
think
that,
with
this
new
phase
of
the
protocol,
this
new
core
unit
and
other
co
units,
we
work
together
to
try
to
implement
those
real-world
assets
into
the
protocol.
F
C
Yeah,
but
also
just
to
to
to
add
to
what
mariano
is
saying
that
you
know
every
single
quarter.
C
We,
we
are
quite
meticulous
in
the
way
that
we
work
in
regards
to
recording
everything,
recording
all
the
partnership,
all
the
integrations,
the
size
of
it,
the
types
of
companies
and
so
on,
and
we
have
been
quite
meticulously
following
the
trends
right,
which
is
also
why
we've
been
able
to,
for
example,
you
know
opened
up
for
for
gaming
quite
early
on
way
before
it
really
started
to
become
like
a
big
thing
in
crypto
the
same
with
org
started.
C
We
started
targeting
that
before
it
really
boomed
right
and
in
the
same
way,
we
applying
this
logic
all
the
time
to
keep
ourselves
and
our
strategies
up
to
date
with
how
we
see
the
market
is
moving.
So,
for
example,
one
thing
that
I
could
see
being
pushed
a
lot
more
in
europe,
for
example,
is
a
euro
die
because
we
have?
C
We
have
some
situations,
for
example,
with
negative
interest
rates
specifically
for
fintech
companies
that
you
know
whenever
they
hold
client
funds
on
their
books,
for
example,
in
euro
they
they
can
charge
a
negative
interest
rate
because
they
don't
hold
them
themselves.
Another
bank
themselves
right.
You
know
things
like
that
as
dye
matures
and
as
we
get
you
know,
potentially
euro
diet
out
there
too.
A
Do
you
guys
have
any
measures
or
better,
yet
how
would
you
recommend
maker
token
holders
to
judge
your
performance
moving
forward
like
what
are
some.
B
Yes,
yes,
we
do,
we
do
is
everything
is
in
the
proposal.
Actually,
we
are
going
to
use
the
same
metrics.
We
have
right
now
as
the
bd
team
and
is
putting
a
weight
on
each
partner,
depending
on
how
big
this
partner
is
and
how
relevant
how
relevant
it
could
be
for
the
maker
protocol.
So,
for
example,
wirex
and
one
beat
are
a
very
good
example
of
a
tier
one
partner,
tier
one
being
the
most
important
partner
for
us,
because
they
have
like
these
enormous
reach
of
people.
B
They
manage
very,
very
high
volumes
of
dye
in
their
platforms,
and
they
are
very
committed
with
with
with
the
maker
protocol,
so
also
work
with
them
takes
us
a
lot
of
work
because
we
have
been
getting
in
like
an
agreement
and
the
campaigns
we
are
going
to
do
with
them,
and
because
of
that
that
that
type
of
partners,
the
tier
one
partners,
will
well
they're
more
hard
to
close
like
to
take
them
as
a
close
integration
and
a
close
deal
and
a
launch
integration,
but
are
like
more
important
for
the
maker
protocol.
B
So,
at
the
end
of
the
quarter,
what
we
do
is
we
count
how
many
tier
1
tier
2
and
tier
3
partners.
We
we
closed.
That
means
partners
that
already
launched
the
product
integrating
any
of
the
maker
protocol
solutions
and
we
we
put
a
weight
depending
on
the
type
of
partner
it
is,
and
it
gives
it
give
us
like
a
like
a
points.
So
we
have
a
point
system.
So
each
quarter,
each
of
us
have
a
goal
of
points
to
be
achieved
and
we
are
like
focused
on
achieving
that
number.
B
That
means
getting
one
tier
one
or
maybe
ten
tier
two
or
maybe
50
tier
three
to
achieve
that
amount
of
points
that
we
have
as
our
goal.
So
that's
what
we
are
going
to
show
to
the
maker
community
and
the
maker
governance
to
so
you
can
see
our
performance
and
you
can
like
also
understand
what
we
are
doing.
B
Besides,
all
these
information,
we
want
to
tell
you
about
the
regions,
the
verticals,
the
trends,
the
needs
of
the
of
the
maker
protocol
from
from
our
partners,
what
our
partners
needs
from
the
maker
protocol
and
and
yes,
a
report
about
how
we
are
doing
in
each
region.
Where
do
we
see
like
more
partners
or
interest
in
the
maker
protocol
in
which
way
and
how
our
partners
are
growing?
A
A
B
B
Like
internal
information
right
now,
we
should
like
talk
internally
if
we
can
share
that
information
with
with
with
the
community.
But
yes,
that's
something
that
we
we
have
because,
as
we
mentioned
with
crm,
where
we
have
all
like
the
is
a
like
the
database
pro
of
all
our
partners,
the
contacts,
the
product
or
service
we
created
with
them,
and
how
and
what
do?
What
do
we
did
with
them
in
the
past
to
achieve
that
integration?
N
I
mean
I
could
get
into
the
scaling
portion
of
developing
the
acceptance
of
die
right.
I
mean
I'm
pretty
sure.
Louise
you're
into
x
die
out
in
venezuela
and
I
was
just
wondering
how
others
are
handling
the
you
know.
The
issue
with
the
gas
prices
like
how's
buen
bit
dealing
with
this,
and
how
important
is
it
for
the
maker
community
to
move
to
a
layer
two
or
should
we
just
stay
on
the
layer?
One
and
let
die
make
its
way
to
layer.
Two
is
on
its
own.
C
Hopefully,
that
makes
sense-
maybe
I
can
determine
here
I
mean
as
part
of
the
bd
efforts.
We
recognized
this
problem
like
way
way
way
way
before
it
happened
just
now
so
like
right
now,
dye
is
already
available
in
all
the
major
layer.
Twos
we
are
in
contact
with,
I
believe,
most
of
the
layer.
Two
teams
and
I've
been
you
know
for,
for
you
know
quite
a
while.
C
We
are
in
contact
with
most
of
our
big
user
aggregation
platforms,
so,
for
example,
wallets,
like
arjun
we've
been
in
touch
with
for
like
a
long
time
as
well
in
regards
to
what
are
they
doing
so
so
most
of
the
big
wallet
fronted,
aggregators
or
or
you
know,
d5
protocols.
We
we
know
roughly
what
their
plans
are
in
regards
to
layer,
twos
and
as
part
of
that
effort,
we
also
started
bridging
dye
to
other
blockchains.
C
So
I
think
the
first
bridge
went
live
like
over
a
year
ago
now,
but
basically,
no
looking
into
you
know
not
only
working
with
other
side
chains
or
layer
2s
on
ethereum,
but
also
actually
ensuring
that
you
know
dye
is
available
on
other
main
nets,
such
as,
for
example,
clayton
dew
has
been
doing
that
one.
We
also
have
it
on
ontology
on
neo
and
like
a
bunch
of
other
layer,
one
maintenance.
So
so
we
actually
have
seen
very
early
that
you
know
we.
C
We
always
had
this
idea
that
you
know
the
the
main
protocol
needed
the
security
of
ethereum
layer
one
but
die
as
as
as
a
usable
asset
can
basically
exist
and
live
everywhere
right.
C
So
we
we've
been
really
been
doing
that
for
like
quite
a
while,
and
you
know
continuing
to
do
so,
because
we
definitely
see
a
trend
that
that
there
is
a
lot
more
to
gain
on
being
on
these
platforms,
where
it's
much
cheaper
to
transact,
right
and-
and
we
also
have
been
in
contact
with
most
of
the
next
upcoming
blockchains-
that
I'm
sure
that
you
know
a
lot
of
people
are
looking
at
that
that
you
know
dye
will
be
available
on
places
such
as
near
and
polka
dot
and
so
on.
In
the
future,
too.
B
Yes,
that's
that's
like
our
long-term
vision
until
the
layer
two
is
like
up
and
running
for
every
protocol
and
has
this
composability
that
we
all
need
and
like
like
a
short-term
solution,
is
we
are
like
at
least
in
emerging
markets.
Where
is
like
a
delicate,
delicate
thing,
we
are
talking
with
exchanges
and
we
are
like
creating
centralized
solutions
for
that.
B
So
these
exchanges,
like
I
think,
a
well
henry
mentioned
it
when
beat,
for
example,
is
thinking
on
its
own
wallet,
a
centralized
wallet
if
the
user
wants
to
save
in
in
in
gas,
but
a
decentralized
wallet
if
they
use
their
values
like
decentralization
and
non-custodial
over
their
crypto.
So
we
are
working
with
with
with
decentralized
exchanges
to
give
solutions
to
their
users
and
in
that
way,
people
who
can
like
still
use
die
without
the
restrictions
of
the
network.
B
So
we
are
like
in
it
like
doing
both
thinking
on
short-term
short-term
solutions
and
creating
a
plan
and
talking
with
exchanges
and
also
talking
with
different
blockchains
and
talking
with
different
layer,
two
solutions
and
thinking
what
we
can
do.
Also.
We
are
like
talking
internally
with
the
oasis
team
and
they
are
thinking
about
a
layer
to
solution
for
themselves.
So,
yes,
like
part
of
our
job,
is
understand,
what's
happening
and
creating
plans
and
helping
everyone
er
to
find
a
solution
for
their
needs.
A
Us
a
little
bit:
can
you
walk
us
a
little
bit
through
the
through
the
budget
like
high
level?
What
what
are
you
guys
thinking
in
terms
of
well
the
salaries
incentives?
How
are
you
planning
on
on
incentivizing
the
team
and
then
yeah
anything
has
to
do
with
the
rest
of
the
line
items.
B
Yes,
well,
the
budget,
it's
something
that
we
decided
to
think
about
it
quarterly,
just
like
for
the
first
quarter,
maybe
the
first
or
the
second
quarter,
and
then,
when
we
understand
how
the
korean
it
is
working,
we
can
like
think
about
the
budget
for
the
year,
but
for
now
well,
the
most
important
parts
of
our
budget
are
the
base
salary
of
each
contributor
and
they
come
the
the
bonus
that
is
related
to
the
achievement
of
the
objectives.
So
that's
that's.
B
So
well,
that's
like
a
a
big
percentage
of
our
budget
goes
for
that
and
the
other
part,
but
it's
like
another
important
part
of
our
budget,
is
for
partners,
because
when
we
are
working
with
a
partner,
we
have
to
think
about
what
they
need
to
implement
to
implement
that
integration.
It
could
be
they,
they
probably
need
technical
help.
We
can
count
on
or
integration
services,
but
sometimes
they
need
an
extra
help.
They
need
to
hire
a
developer.
For
example,
we
also.
B
Sometimes
we
need
to
think
about
a
education
how
this
partner,
for
example,
if
we
are
starting
a
new
vertical
or
or
we
have
like
our
first
partner
in
a
country,
we
have
to
think
how
we
are
going
to
communicate
what
that
is
to
people.
It's
it's
completely
different.
If
you
talk
about
usdc
or
usdt
or
any
token,
with
the
usd
in
the
name
that,
if
you
talk
about
dye,
you
have
to
explain
them
what
what
dye
is
and
explain
them.
B
The
differences
between
dye
and
the
other
stable
cons
in
stable,
stable
coins
in
the
space.
So
sometimes
the
part,
the
partner
needs
help
in
budget
to
help
them
to
create
that
educational
content
or
marketing
campaign,
or
sometimes
we
want
just
to
help
the
partner
to
like
to
bootstrap
the
integration
into
their
platform.
So
we
we
create
with
them
like
a
campaign
where
we
can
get
more
users
for
our
partner
using
die
or
opening
vaults
or
like
incentivizing.
B
B
So
we
help
them
with
the
same
educational
content.
Yes,
or
these
are
educational
content
or
marketing
campaigns
or
sometimes
maybe
it
could
be
creating
like
a
a
pr
plan,
so
we
can
appear
on
the
mainstream
media,
so
people
can
know
that
these
new
products
exist.
That's
that's
mostly
community
in
latin
america,
where
dai
is,
is
something
that
we
are
showing
not
just
to
crypto
all
these
audiences,
but
for
like
every
everyone
who
wants
to
save
their
their
the
value
of
their
money.
B
Of
course
you
can
reach
me
on
rocket
chat
and
we
can
talk
about
any
question
you
have
or
if
you
want
to,
we
there's
like
a
lot
of
questions.
We
can
also
schedule
another
call
and
please
please
give
us
feedback
on
the
on
the
forum,
because
we
want
to
improve
our
proposal.
We
we
really
want
to
know
what
what
do
you
think
about
a
or
car
unit,
and
we
want
to
like
make
improvements
based
on
what
you
think
will
will
be
important
to
have.
A
This
is
an
request
for
comment
right
now,
this
proposal,
so
that's
yeah,
and
so
I'm
guessing
he's
going
to
be
there
for
a
month
and
you're
planning
on
submitting
it
doing
a
formal
submission
next
month
on
for
the
next
deadline,.
A
A
Call
okay!
So
thanks
again
for
coming,
it
was
great
having
you
and
yes,
if
you,
if
you
want
to
to
know
more
about
this
proposal
and
the
team,
you
can
look
up
in
forum.maker.com
the
growth
core
unit.