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Introducing two of the proposed delegates for MakerDAO Governance, PaperImperium (Chris Cameron) and ElProgreso (Frank Cruz).
Maker Forum: https://forum.makerdao.com/
Maker Chat: https://chat.makerdao.com/
Host - LongForWisdom
Forum - LongForWisdom
Chat - LongForWisdom
Chris Cameron
Forum - PaperImperium
Maker Chat - PaperImperium
Frank Cruz
Chat - elpro
Twitter - @CruzerDefi
forum - ElProgreso
email - elprodai@protonmail.com
A
Hello,
everyone
and
welcome
to
the
make
it
out
meet
your
delegate
meeting
the
first
to
make
a
download
meeting.
I
should
say
with
your
delegates
meeting
yeah
my
name
is
wisdom.
I'm
the
one
of
the
government's
facilitators
at
maker,
dao,
I'm
joined
here
by
a
group
of
people,
maker
people
and
our
first
delegates,
which
is
very
exciting.
A
So
today
we're
going
to
have
hopefully,
hopefully
a
couple
of
delegates.
Maybe
just
one
depends
on
the
timing,
but
we're
going
to
start
off
with
paper
imperium
and
then
time
depending
will
have
alpha,
come
on
as
well
and
and
yeah
so
to
briefly
go
over
the
form
of
these
meetings.
So
this
is
a
chance
for
the
delegates
to
introduce
themselves,
give
sort
of
a
brief
summary
of
their
platform
things
they
care
about
and
then
answer
any
questions
from.
A
A
B
B
B
So
just
to
begin,
I
want
to
talk
about
the
three
main
areas
of
challenge
that
I
see
before
maker.
That
needs
some
address,
so
the
first
is
that
we
need
to
integrate
better
with
the
real
world.
This
falls
under
several
different
areas.
The
one
that's
at
the
foremost
of
everyone's
mind
today
probably
is
regulation.
B
This
can
be
divided
into
probably
three
main
areas
with
the
eu,
which
is
looking
fairly
hostile
at
the
moment,
but
perhaps
we
can
change
their
minds.
The
us
which
I've
already
started,
trying
to
get
some
low-level
engagement
going
with
u.s
and
other
north
american
entities
and
then
of
course,
asia.
Pacific
are
the
other
major
developed
markets
that
look
like
they
could
potentially
begin
to
exert
more
regulatory
control.
B
Other
parts
of
the
world
do
not
seem
so
aggressive
at
the
moment
with
regulations,
so
we
will
deal
with
them
as
they
come.
This
is
something
that
we
need
to
develop
strong
messaging.
We
need
to
develop
a
plan
to
actually
interact
with
the
bodies
that
regulate
financial
markets
in
these
in
these
countries.
B
That
includes,
and
is
not
limited
to,
obviously,
the
fed
bank
of
canada.
The
ecb
we've
already
started
to
reach
out
at
some
low
levels,
with
at
least
with
researchers,
for
some
information
sharing
with
bank
of
canada
and
the
bank
of
international
settlements,
who
most
people
are
probably
more
familiar
with
the
basel
regulatory
guidelines
that
they
provide
to
to
banking
systems
around
the
world.
B
We
can
get
more
into
that
offline
or
later.
If
anybody
has
any
questions
and
then
of
course,
socially,
we
are
not
integrated
anywhere,
there's,
not
really
a
constituency
anywhere
in
the
world.
That's
gonna
mourn
our
demise
other
than
crypto
twitter
should
anything
happen
to
us
and
I
suspect,
not
even
all
of
them
would
shed
a
tear
for
us.
That's
something
we
need
to
work
on.
B
We
do
not
seem
to
fit
what
lawmakers
and
academics
consider
a
stable
coin,
because
we're
not
redeemable
for
fiat.
We
have
a
very
different
business
model
and
it
means
that
when
you
look
at
papers
that
have
been
published
recently,
they
include
stable
coins
of
much
smaller
market
cap
and
much
smaller
reach
than
us.
B
B
The
next
thing
is,
of
course,
scaling
die.
We
need
organic
demand.
Differentiation
is
other
than
price.
We
we've
got
to
work
on
this.
I
know
growth
has
been
going
full
throttle
and
they've
been
doing
great
work
to
get
die
in
front
of
more
people,
but
at
the
end
of
the
day
we
need
our
product
is
not
really
vaults.
Our
product
is
die.
B
We
need
to
figure
out
more
ways
to
generate
it
than
just
the
psm
and
vaults
right
because
for
vaults,
it's
it's
a
lending
product,
a
financing
product
and,
at
the
end
of
the
day,
that's
a
commodity,
and
so
we
can
only
compete
on
price
at
the
end
of
the
day.
So
we
we
don't
have
control
over
that
and
we
will
never
have
control
over
that.
B
I
know
people
like
to
think
that
we
can
lower
the
the
rates
on
vaults
to
increase
supply,
but
that's
also
going
to
increase
demand
and
when
it
comes
to
capital,
inflows
and
outflows
to
die,
we
need
to
come
up
with
some
alternative
ways
to
generate
it.
We
also
need
to
have
prudence.
Speaking
of
capital
flows.
We
need
to
have
prudent
management
of
these
right.
Now.
I
think
everyone
is
aware
of
the
elephant
in
the
room
is
that
we
have
more
than
3.1
billion
dollars
in
usdc
sitting
in
the
psm.
B
B
If
we're
going
to
defend
the
peg
successfully,
we
have
limited
control
over
how
much
is
going
to
pile
up
inside
the
psm
or
be
drained
from
it
as
capital
flows
in
and
out
of
die
compared
to
other
us
dollar
denominated
or
us
dollar.
Equivalent
assets
right
now
die
is
in
demand.
It's
a
great
problem
to
have
right.
First
world
problem.
B
B
So
that's
our
second
area
scaling
and
competition
differentiation
and
manage
prudent
management
of
risk
of
the
reserves
that
we
hold.
The
third
is
that
we
need
to,
as
maker
grows,
we're
beginning
to
attract
more
talent,
we're
still
short
of
manpower
but
and
person
power,
but
we
do
need
to
start
having
an
eye
towards
more
internal
responsibility
and
best
practices.
B
B
We
need
to
separate
the
stability
buffer
from
our
operating
cache
so
that
it's
clear
how
much
of
which
one
is
earmarked
for
expenses
and
how
much
is
actually
the
buffer
as
it
is
now,
if
we're
in
this
situation,
where,
if
we
are
losing
money,
then
we
are
increasing
risk
by
by
draining
the
stability
buffer.
If
so,
we
need
to
correct
that.
That's
that's
more
of
an
accounting
issue,
but
it's
important
that
we
get
that
one
right.
B
We
also
need
to
have
monitoring
separate
from
cash
and
control
decisions,
so
we
probably
need
to
spin
out
financial
reporting
into
its
own
into
its
own
core
unit
or
team,
so
that
it's
separate
from
any
operations.
We
don't
want
anyone
who
has
operational
discretion
or
operational
decision-making
capacity
to
be
in
charge
of
actual
flows
of
cash
or
the
accounting
of
that
cash
when
possible,
that's
just
a
standard
best
practice.
B
So
that's
the
third
third
area.
We
need
to
work
on
internal
reforms,
so
we
need
to
integrate
better
with
the
real
world
markets.
We
need
to
scale
and
differentiate
ourselves
from
competitors,
and
we
also
need
to
make
sure
that
as
we
internally
grow,
we
do
so
in
a
way
that
is
responsible
and
makes
the
organization
less
fragile
and
I'll.
Take
questions
now.
C
B
And
delegation
becomes
an
active
thing
that
that
takes
off
then
I
would
probably
I
already
have
some
eyes
on
people
that
I
would
try
to
hand
that
unit
off
to
as
to
be
the
facilitator
for
it.
It's
a
small
unit.
It's
really
just
to
sign
some
paperwork
and
do
some
low-level
monitoring,
but
yeah.
It
would
not
be
appropriate
for
me
to
in
the
long
run,
fill
both
roles.
A
E
I
have
a
question
hello,
chris
and
well
it's
a
couple
of
questions.
One
will
be.
How
are
you
going
to?
Let
know
the
people
that
are
delegating
mkr
on
you.
What
is
go?
You're,
gonna,
be
your
your
next
vote
or
opinion.
Apart
from
reading
you
in
the
firms-
and
the
other
question
I
have
is
what
do
you
think
about
alternatives
to
die
like
back
to
the
euro
or
other
currencies.
B
Yeah
great
question,
so
I
guess
the
first
one's
the
easiest.
I
am
generally
going
to
make
myself
as
available
as
possible.
I
makers
taking
up
more
and
more
of
my
time.
So
it's
it's
my
main
priority
at
the
moment.
Anyone
that
delegates
or
just
wants
to
hear
my
thoughts
I'll,
have
a
weekly
summary
available
for
everybody
and,
of
course,
my
my
email,
my
signal
and
my
telegram
will
be
open
for
anybody
that
wants
to
have
more
private
conversations.
So,
whatever.
B
To
communicate
with
me,
I
will
be
happy
to
listen
to
and
and
respond
to.
Second
question
was
alternative
dies
like
euro
die
right?
Okay,
so
I
think
this
is
something
we're
gonna
need
to
move
into,
and
at
the
moment
I
think
it's
just
a
matter
of
bandwidth.
I
am
not
sure
that
it
needs
to
be
our
top
priority,
but
it
is
something
we
do
need
to
be
moving
on,
especially
with
major
currencies
like
like.
Perhaps
you
know,
yen
sterling
euros.
You
know
these
major
major
international
currencies.
B
These
are
things
that
we
can
get
a
first
or
second
mover
advantage
on
the
u.s.
Stable
coin
market
is
much
more
crowded,
obviously,
but
yeah
I
I'd,
say
it.
It
needs
to
be
on
the
to-do
list.
I
agree
I
I
don't
know
that
it
needs
to
be
our
absolute
top
priority,
but
I
am
as
always
open
to
changing
my
mind
as
more
information
is
given
to
me.
F
Yeah
I've
got
a
question:
hey
everyone,
something
I'd
like
to
hear
about
from
each
of
the
candidates
is
well.
There's
there's
been
some
discussion.
You
know
with
the
launch
of
delegation
about
the
potential
for
political
parties
to
develop
at
some
point
totally
understand
it's.
You
know
pretty
early
to
do
much
speculation
around
that.
But
do
you
have
any
opinions
at
this
point
about
how
you
would
handle
that
development?
B
I
don't
generally
think
political
parties
bring
a
positive.
I
I
don't
generally
feel
that
they,
they
are
a
positive
development
for
political
systems.
In
this
particular
case,
we
are
dealing
with
a
lot
of
technical
decisions
and
I
really
don't
think
ideology
has
a
lot
of
ideological
commitments,
have
a
lot
of
place
in
running
in
running
maker.
That
said,
there
are
certainly
some
issues
that
I
could
see,
sympathizing
or
or
or
voting
with
parties.
D
G
D
On
that,
chris,
do
you
foresee
the
need
for
you
to
maybe
start
recruiting
contributors
to
help
you
actually
overview
the
the
dao
and
the
different
core
units
and
make
sure
that
people
are
being
held
accountable
to
what
they
say,
they're
doing
or
what
they're
actually
doing
or
or
do
you
see
it
more
as
a?
This
is
a
hands-off
task
and
everyone
should
self-report
and
and
that's
the
end
of
the
of
the
mandate.
B
That's
a
great
question,
so
I
think
that
comes
back
to
I
feel
strongly
that
we
need
more
separation
of
reporting
and
decision
making,
monitoring
and
decision
making.
Just
as
I
should
not
be
my
own
boss,
people
should
not
be
their
own
policemen
that
works
for
now.
You
know
we
don't
have
a
deep
bench
to
pull
from,
but
I
would
love
to
see
you
know
functions
related
to
accounting,
internal
controls,
just
monitoring
in
general
of
internal
metrics
see
that
spun
out
into
its
own
core
unit.
B
I
don't
have
opinions
about
what
exactly
that
would
look
like
how
big
it
would
need
to
be,
but
I
I
think
that's
something
that
should
be
on
the
road
map
and
at
least
in
the
next
12
months.
I
think
I
think
that's
a
certainty
that
we
need
independent
internal
watchdogs
gov
alpha
right
now.
You
know
they
have
to
be
neutral
about
things.
We
need
someone
who
can
make
recommendations
and
and
raise
alarm
bells.
Yes,.
B
F
D
B
I
think
it
probably
needs
to
happen.
It
should
be
less
than
core
unit
facilitators.
I
think,
but
it's
not
a
small
amount
of
time
to
stay
on
top
of
things,
so
I
I
would
say
it
needs
to
be
enough
to
pay
for
people
to
pay
attention,
but
and
and
so
that
people.
Otherwise
this
is
going
to
be
a
rich
man's
game
right.
We
don't
want
that,
but
I
I
don't
think
it
should
be
on
the
same
scale
as
as
most
core
unit
facilitator.
Salaries
are.
A
So
I'll
perhaps
jump
in
with
the
general
one
from
the
from
the
backup
list.
What
do
you
feel
is
sort
of
the
biggest
challenge?
I
guess
you
kind
of
talked
about
like
the
three
things
we
need
to
focus
on,
but
like
are
they
the
sort
of
biggest
challenges
you
see
like
ever
for
maker
right?
Like
do
you?
Are
there
any
other
challenges?
You
think
we're
gonna
face
like
in
the
future
that
are
sort
of
gonna
be
bigger
or
almost
like
more
impactful.
B
So
at
some
point,
if
maker
is
successful,
we
are
going
to
get
to
the
point
where
we
will
be
so
systemically
involved
in
the
world
economy,
that
there
are
going
to
be
people
that
don't
like
that
and
I'm
not
exactly
sure
yet
what
what
what
we
should
do
about
that.
But
part
of
my
plan
at
the
beginning
is
at
least
to
begin
holding
government
debt
securities,
so
that
maker
cannot
be
targeted
too
aggressively
without
creating
a
credit
event
for
for
large
regulators.
I
H
I'll
go
it's
sort
of
from
our
list
of
questions
as
well,
but
I
think
you're
already
sort
of
bringing
up
an
idea
about
the
surplus
buffer
and
how
that
corresponds
to.
Basically
our
spend
right.
So
I'd
love
for
you
to
maybe
unpack
that
a
little
bit
more
because
I
feel
like
that
was
the
seat
of
a
really
good
idea,
and
maybe
it'd
be
nice
to
have
that
out
in
the
world.
B
Yeah,
so
I
can't
take
credit
for
being
the
first
to
voice
it.
I
think
I
think
will
from
from
real
world
finance
first
voiced
it
a
desire
to
see
this
out
on
the
forums
and
it
it's
something
I've
been
thinking
about
was
glad.
I've
now
seen
multiple
people
mention
yeah,
so
the
whole
point
of
the
surplus
buffer
is
to
be
a
buffer
right.
B
We
have
to
make
sure
that
that
any
I
have
to
make
sure
first,
that
die
is
secure
and
then
backed
up
by
maker
holders
right
and
it's
hard
to
plan
for
these
things
number
one.
It's
hard
to
plan
a
budget
if
we're
co-mingling
all
of
our
funds
and
secondly,
especially
as
we
come
under
intense,
more
intense
scrutiny
from
the
outside
that
is
going
to
look
to
regulate
us,
the
more
we're
already
complying
with
best
practices
of
segregating
money.
B
B
A
buffer!
Well,
we
need
to
have
that.
It
needs
to
be
off
the
one
side
and
then
the
money
that
we
operate
out
of
needs
to
come
out
of
the
other
right,
because
it's
a
bigger
decision
to
deficit
spend
out
of
your
piggy
bank
than
it
is
out
of
your
your
insurance
rainy
day
fund
right
so
yeah.
How
that
would
be
implemented.
I've
not
thought
through
completely
about
any
any
details
about
it
and
I'm
happy
to
hear
other
people's
opinions
about
the
timetable
and
exact
mechanisms
for
doing
that.
A
All
right,
perhaps
a
sort
of
more
wide-ranging
question,
and
so
one
of
them
we
have
down
is
sort
of.
You
know:
where
do
you
land
about
die
on
other
blockchains
and
like
the
other
protocol
as
a
whole
on
other
blockchains?
Do
you
think
that's
something
we
should
be
prioritizing
something
we
should
be
backboning.
B
So
in
principle,
I
think
diet
should
be
everywhere,
including
at
some
point
in
the
far
distance
future,
a
way
to
figure
out
a
way
to
get
into
the
physical
world
as
well
as
far
as
in
each
blockchain
and
each
spot.
I'm
going
to
defer
to
people
who
know
more
about
each
of
those
places
than
I
do
so.
I
would
I
would
be
deferring
to
risk
and
protocol
engineering
and
oracle's
for
for
any
any
particular
ecosystem
for
for
us
to
be
actively
pushing
diet
into
or
generating
dye.
H
I
mean
I'm
just
pulling
from
our
this
great
list
of
questions
that
I
believe
alpha
assembled.
The
last
one
I
could
think
of
that.
You
actually
spoke
to
in
the
first
place
really
elegantly
on
the
forum
was
on
governance
process,
mostly
through
a
debate
on
recent
fees.
Change.
So
do
you,
I
think
you
had
this
the
beginnings
of
some
great
ideas
there
as
well.
Do
you
feel
like
there's
some
low-hanging
fruit
on
governance
processes
that
could
be
maybe
adapted
or
changed
or
another
team
that
should
maybe
be
presented.
B
A
H
A
B
Right,
so
our
number
one
goal
is
to
make
sure
that
the
fixed
exchange
rate
of
one
die
for
one
dollar
is
maintained.
Without
that
we
don't
have
a
product.
You
know
our
product
is
die.
Anybody
can
can
can
provide
financing,
but
it's
dye
has
to
maintain
its
its
face
value
and
not
significantly
for
any
period
of
time,
trade
above
or
below
and
the
longer
we
do
that
the
cheaper
it
is
to
defend
the
peg
and
you'll
see
today
that
we've
had
significant
inflows
into
the
psm
now.
B
So
the
thing
to
remember
is
that
you
know
our
collaterals
and
vaults.
That's
that's
akin
to
organic
demand,
and
we
there's
a
limit
to
how
far
we
can
push
that
people
have
to
want
that
service,
which
is
why
it's
important
to
come
up
with
alternative
methods
of
getting
dye
into
existence,
preferably
ones
that
generate
fees.
B
A
B
A
B
A
J
J
H
J
J
Hence
why?
On
the
forums,
I'm
known
as
el
progreso
and
a
rocket
shot
el
pro?
And
if
I
didn't
mention
my
government
name-
is
frank
cruz
yeah.
But
if
I
could
be
named
all
over,
I
guess
I
would
be
named
no
pro.
So
more
more
of
a
background
about
myself,
I
have
14
years
experience
in
working
in
trade
phi.
J
I
was
down
in
wall
street
as
an
advisor,
not
happy
pushing
stocks
bonds,
a
little
bit
of
commodities,
mutual
funds,
the
boring
stuff,
and
after
14
years
I
called
the
quits.
I
took
a
two
year
sabbatical
and
around
2011,
a
friend
of
mine's,
really
good
friend
of
mine
had
told
me
about
bitcoin,
but
I
kind
of
just
shrugged
it
off,
because
I
just
didn't
get
it
and
plus
he
told
me,
I
had
to
open
an
account
in
japan
and
that
just
wasn't
going
to
happen.
J
So
after
my
sabbatical,
I
started
working
with
a
good
friend
of
mine,
so
opened
a
document
management
software
company
based
in
houston,
texas,
and
he
wanted
myself
and
another
friend
to
open
an
office
here
in
new
york
city.
We
did
that
did
some
sales.
It
was
fun
the
cloud
came
in
to
the
picture
and
that
actually
helped
a
lot,
but
in
around
the
the
2017
bull
run.
J
My
brother,
who
I
had
told
a
long
time
ago
about
bitcoin
called
me
up
and
told
me:
hey:
have
you
seen
this
thing
bitcoin
and
ethereum,
and
I
looked
at
the
chart
real
quick
when
it
was
you
know
pointing
at
the
sky,
I
kind
of
knew
it
was
a
little
bit
too
high.
So
I
waited
it.
I
waited
it
out
and
in
the
winter
crypto
winter
of
2018,
probably
late
2018.
J
I
probably
have
voted
now
over
200
times
I
like
to
think
maybe
less
maybe
150
and
I'm
also
very,
very
active
on
the
speculation
channel
on
rocket
chat.
One
of
the
things
I
like
to
do
is
I
like
to
keep
the
community
kind
of
buzzing.
If
I
can
sometimes,
unfortunately,
I
have
to
chit
post,
but
I
like
to
keep
things
alive
and
during
the
crypt
of
winter.
J
I
think
one
of
my
favorite
things
to
do
was
to
keep
myself
inspired
right,
because
I
decided
to
get
away
from
the
nine
to
five
and
get
into
cryptocurrencies
full-time,
and
what
I
like
to
do
is
I
like
to
listen
to
a
lot
of
inspirational
talks
by
the
great
founders
of
the
past
and
present,
and
I
like
to
take,
quotes
and
break
them
down
mike
maples
jr
is
actually
from
floodgate
one
of
my
favorite.
He
just
has
some
magical
words.
Sometimes
that
inspires
you.
J
My
activity
in
the
maker
forum,
yeah
I've
tried
a
bunch
of
things
like
in
the
d5
summer
of
2020.
I
already
was
thinking
about
running
dye
on
different
chains,
pretty
much
because
yeah
it
was,
it
was
getting
really
painful
right
when
they
released
urine.
Finance
and
gas
prices
were
going
through
the
roof
and
compound
also
had
started.
The
party
kicked
it
off,
so
I
was
already
thinking
on
different
chains.
I
had
follow
other
chains
like
mirror
and
solana,
polka
dot,
cosmos.
Oh
man,
I
remember
cosmos.
J
I
had
no
idea
what
it
was,
but
I
was
there
didn't
buy
the
token
so
I
missed
out,
but
anyway,
so
all
these
chains,
I've
always
followed,
because
I
always
like
to
look
at
what's
what's
the
next
big
thing
right,
not
sure
if
they
will
be
so.
This
is
not
financial
advice
but
yeah,
so
I
follow
them.
I've
done
other
things
like.
I
already
had
a
feeling
that
usdt
was
a
little
bit
odd.
I
mean
I'm
not
the
only
one.
There
are
many
people,
so
I've
done
signals
requests
that
fail.
Like
the
list.
J
Usdt.
I've
also
thought
about
using
usdc
to
stabilize
the
peg.
So
I
did
put
a
mipsix
application.
That's
still
in
the
works
right
a
year
later
and
I
believe
it's
actually
finally
going
to
come
into
fruition,
but
I
was
asking
if
we
can
use
cusd
usdc
as
a
collateral
type,
so
yeah.
Those
are
the
way
my
brain
is
always
thinking,
because
I
pretty
much
do
this
24
7,
even
on
a
sunday.
J
So
here's
my
commitment
to
you,
I'm
running
as
flip
flop,
flat
delegate
again
it's
an
llc
based
in
delaware.
In
order
to
be
in
mkr
governance,
you
have
to
be
fully
fully
focused
and
what
I
mean
by
that
is
you
have
to
keep
up
with
everything.
That's
posted
all
those
discussions
attend
the
meetings,
and-
and
this
is
my
commitment
also
of
chain
but
on
chain.
I
promise
you
that
I
will
vote
no
matter
what
holidays
weekends
flying
through
the
world.
J
I
will
definitely
be
there
to
cast
the
vote
on
behalf
of
you,
so
it
doesn't
matter
rain
or
shine.
Any
weather,
flip-flop
flap
delegate
will
hold
the
maker
family
together.
All
right.
Remember
that
and
again
as
far
as
off
chain,
it's
just
not
about
going
to
the
risk
at
the
gov
and
risk
meeting.
It's
also
about
attending
the
small
meetings
that
some
folks
might
not
be
attending
right
now.
Some
of
the
content
core
unit
meetings
are
pretty
awesome.
The
scs
on
friday
is
one
of
my
favorites
right
it
kicks
off
the
weekend.
J
Pe
has
their
meeting
on
tuesdays,
which
I
like
to
attend,
even
though
sometimes
it
gets
a
little
super
technical,
but
you
learn
a
lot.
So
this
is
what
it
takes
to
be
a
delegate
in
my
opinion,
and
also
obviously
talking
to
the
risk
people
right
to
trying
to
catch
up
on
what
what
their
thinking
is
and
being
close
to
them,
each
individual
and
not
only
just
being
on
the
forum
and
the
rocket
chat
in
reddit,
but
also
listening
to
podcasts
of
other
protocols
right.
J
So
there
might
be
an
interview
with
kane
of
snx.
I
think
it'd
be
good
for
you
to
listen
to
it.
That
way,
you
can
kind
of
keep
up
what's
going
on
in
d5.
So
that's
my
commitment
to
you,
because
this
is
what
I
do
so,
whether
you
decide
to
delegate
to
me
or
you,
don't
I'm
going
to
continue
doing
it,
I'm
going
to
continue
voting
and
I'm
going
to
continue
to
push
to
be
the
best
delegate
that
I
can
be
so.
J
My
final
take
away
from
this,
and
I
want
you
to
consider
this
because
I
don't
have
the
right
answers.
If
delegating
will
work
or
not,
but
I
like
to
look
at
it
this
way
right
maker
governments
right
now
is
pretty
slow.
Recently,
the
core
units
were
trying
to
get
paid
and
they
had
to
wait
forever,
just
to
get
executive
vote
to
pass
and
it
broke
my
heart,
not
because
I
know
they're
going
homeless
or
anything
like
that,
but
because
it
was
just
taking
so
long
and
it
was
a
little
bit
embarrassing
right.
J
J
I
also
believe
that
we're
gonna
fall
behind
if
we
take
forever
just
to
get
through
one
executive
to
the
next.
So
one
green
light
pole
to
the
next
we're
gonna
fall
behind
and
you're
gonna
see
other
stable
coins
out
there
like
ust
someone
like
faye
right
fei.
I
don't
know
how
you
pronounce
it,
but
you
know
these
guys.
They
have
really
smart
people
they're
working
there
believe
me
they're,
looking
to
make
an
impact
or
hungry
and
they're
working
right
now.
J
So
I
think
we
all
know
that
also
not
to
take
too
much
time
here,
but
also
want
to
have
the
community
think
about
living
in
the
future.
Like
I
do
right,
I'm
always
looking
for
the
next
big
thing,
I'm
always
looking
for
the
next
possible
integration,
even
though
I
don't
know
how
to
code,
but
I'm
always
thinking
of
ideas
and
ways
where
we
can
make
things
work
better
when
it
comes
to
make
her
down
die.
J
J
I
don't
have
the
answer
for
which
type
of
trust
or
or
spv
structure
should
be
the
right
one,
but
I
do
believe
that
we
should
try
all
of
them,
and
you
know,
as
mike
maples
likes
to
say
you
got
to
think
in
bets
right.
If
you
make
a
bet,
you
got
to
think
of
what
your
future
outcome
is.
Is
it
a
large
upside
or
is
it
a
small
outside
upside,
or
is
it
going
to
be
a
huge
upside,
so
yeah,
that's
pretty
much.
My
pitch
and
always
remember
greatness
is
a
decision.
A
J
J
That's
not
evm
compatible,
unfortunately
silly
me,
but
you
know
we
had
a
couple
of
ideas
and
he
was
even
had
an
idea
that
maybe
even
the
solana
foundation
was
willing
to
fund
something
that
could
get
die
into
solana
right.
I
also
checked
out
a
lot
of
the
near
forums
to
see
what
they
were
doing.
They
were
building
the
rainbow
bridge,
which
was
great.
J
I
stayed
on
top
of
that,
but
as
far
as
layer
twos
like
optimism,
arbitrarum
and
starkware,
I'm
super
excited
about
that.
I
myself
already
are
testing
it
out.
I
believe
that
it's
going
to
be
huge
if
we
can
get
someone
like
rainbow
wallet
to
allow
users
to
directly
go
from
their
bank
accounts
to
optimism
and
have
some
die
in.
J
J
F
J
Yeah,
so
that's
actually
something
I
was
going
to
put
into
my
slides,
because
I
am
worried
that
we
are
going
to
get
political
parties
or
maybe
delegates
bonding
together
and
taking
the
dow
in
a
certain
direction.
So
I
am
worried
about
that
and
really
because
I
think
that
it's
going
to
be
hard
for
outsiders
to
come
in
and
say
hey.
I
want
to
do
a
content
core
unit
as
well,
because
I
myself
am
guilty
of
it
right.
I
trust
you
seth
more
than
I
would
you
know
the
next
joe.
J
J
J
So
I'm
definitely
that's
something
I
do
worry
about
and
that
you
know
I
plan
on
definitely
speaking
out.
If
I
see
that
so
you
have
my
word
on
that.
As
far
as
compensation,
you
know,
in
my
opinion,
politicians
shouldn't
really
get
paid
much.
They
should
get
paid
whatever
they
needs.
As
far
as
you
know,
I
don't
know,
buying
shortened
ties,
I
guess
so,
should
we
get
compensated
more
than
likely,
we
should
get
some
kind
of
stipend
right
just
for
the
time
that
we
spend
here.
J
I,
by
myself
I
plan
on
doing
some
youtube
videos,
so
I'll
be
reaching
out
to
your
team
to
kind
of
explain
why
I
voted
a
certain
way
or
campaign
a
certain
way,
because
I
have
a
flip-flop
flap
delegate
youtube
channel.
So
hopefully
you
guys
will
check
it
out
so
yeah,
you
know
if
we
get
paid
a
50
die
a
week,
so
be
it
it's
not
going
to
make
a
difference
to
me.
F
C
So
juan's
having
some
connectivity
issues,
but
he
did
pass
me
a
question
through
through
telegram
kind
of
on
the
lines
of
you
mentioned
in
your
presentation.
I
think
it's
pretty
observable
frank,
you're.
A
very
positive,
very
encouraging
guy
juan
was
curious
if
you've
ever
voted
against
a
proposal
or
there's
something
you
you
haven't
supported
from
the
maker
community
and
if
you
had
an
example
of
that.
J
If
I
had
to
think
back,
it
had
to
be
probably
a
token
that
I
felt
was
either
centralized
or
felt
there
was
some
risk
to
the
dow
as
far
as
executives.
No,
I
don't
think
I
ever
ever
ever
voted
against
an
executive.
That
is
the
honest
truth.
I
think
any
executive
that
got
to
that
point
through
our
rigorous
government's
process
didn't
deserve
to
get
voted
down.
In
my
opinion,
I
could
be
wrong
about
that,
but
yeah
I've
definitely
voted
against
some
green
light
polls.
D
J
J
So
I
am
excited
about
doing
it
on
youtube,
also
thinking
of
maybe
bringing
on
someone
like
tim
or
or
paper
on,
and
we
can
kind
of
debate
you
know
on
the
youtube
channel
or
or
hopefully
align
with
what
the
maker
community
wants
right,
but
yeah
that
should
be
fun
and
you
know
yeah,
that's
why
I
need
the
help
of
people
like
jerry
g
right,
because
we
might
need
some
beats
in
there
to
introduce
the
flip
flop.
Flap
delegate
show.
I
Yeah,
so
maybe
a
bit
related
to
the
previous
question
and
maybe
after
the
call
I'd
love
to
hear
it
from
christopher
as
well,
if
not
at
the
right
time.
But
do
you
maybe
have
like
an
example
of
a
vote
or
a
situation
or
a
community
discussion
where
maybe
you
went
against
the
grain
or
had
some
like
strong
opinion
that
was
slightly
different,
even
slightly
different
from
the
majority,
something
that
maybe
directionally
you
know
shows
how
your.
J
Yeah,
that's
a
great
question:
nika
yeah,
so
this
actually
kristen.
You
can
join
in
after
me
because
when
the
marcom's
unit
marketing
unit
first
stepped
in
and
they
proposed
to
become
a
core
unit,
they
had
a
a
five
million
moonshot,
a
deal
which
I
kind
of
had
a
feeling
and
I'm
a
huge
sports
fan
was
related
to
that
and
I
got
excited
about
it
and
thinking
back.
J
I
was
probably
wrong,
after
speaking
to
a
couple
of
community
members
who
probably
voted
no
as
well,
because
the
it
failed
the
first
proposal.
I
got
excited
about
it
because
I
felt
that
if
we
could
get
the
dye
emblem
out
there
in
front
of
millions
of
people
that
people
will
get
excited
right,
I'm
a
new
yorker.
J
I
ride
the
new
york
city
subway
and
I
can't
tell
you
how
many
times
I
see
this
new
fintech
banks,
advertising
on
the
new
york
city,
subway,
every
single
subway
ride
that
I
take
they're
on
there
and
they're
making
moves
they're,
building
they're
raising
money.
They
got
product.
Their
advertisement
is
funny.
It
catches
bi.
J
So
I
got
a
little
excited
there.
You
know
the
surf
plus
buffer
was
looking
great
and
I
felt
that
you
know
a
moonshot
could
work.
Maybe
it
shouldn't
have
been
five
million.
Maybe
it
could
have
been
a
million
die,
but
if
we
could
have
got
die
on,
you
know
a
four
million
one
car
and
I'm
just
you
know
for
me
it
would
have
been
more
like
american
sports,
but
a
four
million
one
car.
I
think
it
it
would
have
been
a
great
way
to
get
the
die
name
out
there
recognized.
J
B
I'll
wrong,
respectful
of
your
time
here
and
just
quickly
say
my
great
fear
is
actually
that
I'll
be
viewed
as
an
obstructionist.
So
if
anyone
would,
if
you'd
like
a
more
detailed
answer,
I
I
I
think,
voice
unpopular
opinions
that
have
also
been
privately
expressed
to
me
quite
a
bit
but
I'll
I'll.
I
won't
take
up
frank's
time
to
go
into
the
details.
J
J
So
if
I
could
do
it
all
over
again,
I
probably
would
have
reached
out
to
the
to
the
mark
on
teams,
because
I
did
initially
reach
out
to
them.
Try
to
ask
them
how
I
can
help
get
their
campaign
going
and
hopefully
get
some
mkr
voters
so
yeah
and
that's
what
I
plan
to
do
in
the
future.
You
know
we
have
some
some
campaigns
that
are,
you
can
tell
they're
kind
of
49,
51
percent.
J
J
Currently,
I
might
just
reach
out
by
twitter
to
get
them
to
vote,
but
if
you're
saying
in
the
near
future-
or
will
I
be
doing
that
yeah
absolutely,
I
would
love
to
if
they
allow
me
to-
and
they
welcome
me
to
reach
out
to
them
and
hear
them
out
yeah.
I
do
want
to
be
able
to
talk
to
the
smallest
mkr
token
holder,
to
the
largest.
J
Every
voice
to
me
is
important,
but
absolutely
you
know
I'll
definitely
be
reaching
out
to
your
team.
I'll.
Tell
you
that
much,
because
I
think
I
think
you
got
some
very
brilliant
people
there,
including
yourself
and
juan,
but
as
far
as
the
large
maker
holders,
huge
brilliant
people
there
that
I
admire
too.
So
if
they
can
kind
of
give
me
what
they
believe
is
the
best
path
for
a
decentralized
stable
coin
name
die.
That's
going
to
take
us
to
the
next
level.
J
J
This
is
how
I
think
about
it,
and
eventually
you
know,
plays
my
vote
and
at
times
I
know
that
some
of
these
large
token
holders
and
core
units
are
going
to
be
pretty
busy,
so
I
don't
expect
them
to
be
available
every
single
week
or
day,
but
I'm
definitely
going
to
be
taking
notes.
I'm
going
to,
I
always
follow
what
they
do
right.
J
I
follow
not
only
the
core
units
here,
but
I
follow
a
lot
of
our
token
holders
that
are
public
that
are
known
and
I
kind
of
follow
not
only
their
social
media,
twitter
accounts,
but
also,
if
they're
on
a
podcast,
I'm
there
I'm
listening
to
them
and
kind
of
trying
to
gauge
what
exactly
they're
thinking
what
they
believe
will
be
the
next
big
step
in
this
cryptocurrency
world
in
this
decentralized
finance
world.
So
you
know
so,
if
I'm
not
able
to
reach
them,
I
kind
of
know
what
direction
they
want
to
take.
A
A
E
J
Yeah
absolutely
yeah,
you
can
reach
me
at
rocket
chat
at
oprah
or
at
the
forum.
You
can
send
me
an
email
or
you
can
email
me
at
lpro
die
at
protonmail.com,
so
yeah.
Definitely
I
actually
started
using
it
today
along
was
asking
us
to
set
up
the
contract
and
everything
so
yeah.
It
looks
great.
I
think
you
guys
have
done
a
terrific
job
but
yeah
anything.
You
need
help
with.
Let
me
know-
and
I'm
here
to
help
out.
A
J
When
maker
token
holders
and
delegates
now
misbehave
and
don't
govern
the-
I
don't
I
shouldn't
say
misbehave
but
don't
govern
correctly
the
protocol
and
we
make
an
error
like
we
on
board
a
real
estate
company
is
looking
to
do
a
skyscraper
in
you
know,
idaho
and
the
skyscraper
doesn't
get
any
tenants.
Then
it's
not
worth
anything
and
it
goes
bankrupt.
Then
we
set
up
the
wrong
trust
structure
and
we
have
to
eat
the
32
million
die
alone.
J
Then,
if
you
know
we
have
to
mint
mkr,
then
yeah
there's
a
reason
for
that.
You
know.
I've
also
heard
things
like
we're
exposed
to
the
usdc
right,
because
the
good
folks
and
I
like
to
think
they're
good
folks,
I
don't,
I
think
they
have
the
same
they
want
to.
When
I
talk
about
these
folks,
their
circle
usdc.
I
think
that
they
have
the
same
vision
as
us.
I
think
they
want
to
be
successful.
They
want
to
see
dye,
be
successful.
J
I've
seen
jeremy
alaire
talk
so
positively
about
dai
and
how
he's
so
amazed
by
what
the
maker
dog
community
has
done
to
take
it
this
far,
so
I
believe
that
everyone
has
good
intentions
and
when
you
go
to
one
of
the
ethereum
conferences,
you
meet
everyone
and
it's
like
wow
everybody's,
pretty
amazing.
You
know.
Sometimes
we
buckheads
on
twitter
on
the
maker
forum.
What
have
you,
but
at
the
end
of
the
day,
we
all
have
the
same
mission
and
I've
heard
things
we're
like
okay.
J
Well,
what
the
circle
is
going
to
freeze
our
usbc,
our
psn
usbc.
What
do
we
do?
But
you
know
if
we
were
to
get
into
a
situation
like
that
and
we
have
to
min
some
mpr
so
be
it
that's
part
of
the
business.
That's
the
risk,
that's
the
risk
that
we
took.
You
know
as
mike
maples
likes
to
say.
Risk
is
real,
but
fear
is
a
choice
and
I
think
that
the
community
has
taken
such
an
amazing
risk
by
stabilizing
the
peg,
which
is,
as
chris
said,
the
most
important
thing
right.
J
Keep
the
pec
steady.
It's
been
beautiful,
you
know,
I
don't
even
look
at
it
anymore.
I
mean
I
have
it
sometimes,
when
I
turn
on
my
laptop
and
it
pops
up,
and
I
barely
even
pay
attention
to
it
because
you
know
back
in
the
days
it
was
like
a
little
stressful,
watching
the
peg
go
to
101
101.101.5
on
102.,
and
now
it's
just
a
thing
of
beauty.
So
yeah,
that's
how
I
think
about
it.
If
we,
if
we
don't
govern
correctly,
then
yeah
nkr
should
be
should
be
minted.
J
In
my
opinion,
it's
not
going
to
change
the
price
of
the
token
most
of
the
most
of
the
world
doesn't
even
know
that
there's
only
like
900
and
change,
500
000
and
change
mkr
they're
not
going
to
start
buying
it
tomorrow
morning.
Just
because
there's
you
know,
10
000,
mk
or
less
or
5
000
qr
loss,
that's
just
my
opinion
from
markets
for
being
around
markets.
J
I
think
I
think
when
there's
a
lot
of
excitement
about
maker
down,
a
lot
of
profits
are
coming
in
and
die
starts
to
become
a
household
name.
That's
when
you're
going
to
see
people,
okay,
yeah
I
want
to
own
maker
in
my
portfolio
and
that's
when
they're
going
to
go,
buy
the
token,
so
I'm
not
worried
about.
If
we
have
to
mint.
You
know
a
couple
of
thousand
five
thousand,
because
I'm
not
worried
about
that
at
the
same
time,
and
I
don't
want
to
so-
don't
get
me
wrong.
J
I
definitely
don't
want
to
because
it'll
be
bad
press
for
us
and
it
also
you
know
it
won't
be
good
right.
Well,
I
went
through
black
thursday,
like
you
guys
did
and
it
wasn't
fun
so
yeah
I
I
I
don't
have
a
problem
with
it
and
again.
I
do
think
that
the
time
to
admit
that
is
when
we
obviously
do
the
wrong
thing.
A
J
B
A
Great
yeah
well,
thank
you
to
both
of
you
who
are
coming.
Thank
you
to
our
audience
for
the
questions
and
yeah.
Hopefully,
we'll
have
another
one
of
these,
either
next
week
or
the
week
after
with
some
with
the
next
set
of
delegates,
so
yeah
looking
forward
to
looking
forward
to
that
and
hoping
to
see
to
see
it'll
go.