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From YouTube: Governance and Risk | Ep. 159
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Agenda: https://forum.makerdao.com/t/agenda-discussion-scientific-governance-and-risk-159-thursday-september-16-17-00-utc/10335
Introduction:
@LongForWisdom: Hosting, Introduction, Agenda.
@Davidutro : Slides
Governance Round-Up:
Poll + Executive Status - @LongForWisdom
MIPs Update - @blimpa
Forum at a Glance - @gov-comms-core-unit
Selected Updates / Discussions:
Rocket.Chat Migration - @Content-Production + @GovAlpha-Core-Unit
L2 Updates and Future Plans - @Protocol-Engineering
Governance Portal Updates Presentation - DUX Incubating Core Unit
A
A
The
offloading
knca
volts
pole
passed.
So
we're
going
to
be
assuming
it
passes.
An
exact
will
be
yeah,
reducing
the
oh
yeah,
getting
rid
of
the
liquidation
penalty,
increase
in
the
liquidation
ratio
over
a
period
of
60
days.
I
think
we
went
with
dcim
parameter
changes
for
psms
that
also
passed.
That
was
mostly
enabling
the
dead
ceiling
access
module
for
the
pax
psm
or,
what's
it
called
usb
psm,
and
slightly
adjusting
the
usbc
psn
parameters
as
well.
A
All
right
moving
on
executive
proposals,
so
we
have
an
executive
proposal
tomorrow.
It
will
include
three
changes
that
I
just
went
through
from
polls
yeah.
So
look
for
that
tomorrow.
It'll
be
probably
the
usual
time
sometime
after
1600
utc
right
with
that,
I
think
we
can
pass
it
off
to
pablo
for
the
map.
Subject:
okay,
cool.
B
B
I
don't
know
if
it's
worth
it
to
repeat
them,
but
with
strategic
academies,
starting
at
engineering,
development
and
user
experience
and
collateral
engineering
services
and
three
budgets,
one
for
gabalta,
one
for
ses
and
the
mkr
compensation
plan
for
risk
and
we'll
take
a
look
at
the
vote
so
far.
If
david,
yes,
thank
you.
B
B
B
B
Yes
and
finally,
I
wrote
a
primer
for
prospective
proposal.
Authors,
something
of
a
guide,
asks
you
how
to
go
about
the
whole
process
in
a
pretty
succinct
and
hopefully
clear
way,
you
can
access
it
from
the
mips
portal
and
I
would
appreciate
the
feedback.
So
if
you
have
time,
please
give
it
a
read,
and
let
me
know
if
you
think
it's
useful
and
that's
pretty
much
all
from
me.
Thank
you.
A
C
All
right
welcome
to
the
forum
at
a
glance,
a
weekly
review
of
what's
happened
on
the
forums
for
the
week
of
september
10th
to
september
16th.
Let's
begin
with
the
top
this
week's
top
announcements.
So
on
august,
8th
of
2021
tokenflow
team
contacted
duck's
team
concerning
a
discrepancy
between
the
mcd
voting
tracker
tool
and
the
governance
portal.
The
ducks
team
took
a
look
and
uncovered
multiple
problems
in
the
governance
polling
database,
which
is
detailed
in
their
post.
C
These
issues
have
now
been
fixed
and
the
ducks
team
presents
both
shirt,
short-term
and
long-term
mitigation
steps
in
their
post.
Also
as
part
of
their
short-term
mitigation,
the
ducks
team
released
an
updated
version
of
the
governance
portal
with
new
features,
including
poll
vote,
history,
delegate,
statistics
and
visualizing
poll
vote
breakdown.
C
Next
up,
the
dye
foundation
is
now
able
to
manage
ownership
of
intangible
assets
belonging
to
the
maker
protocol,
long
for
wisdom
and
ceph
from
content
production,
thereby
announced
that
they
have
been
working
on
a
mip
called
intangible
asset
assignment,
which
is
now
in
the
forum.
The
goal
of
this
myth
is
for
governance,
to
agree
on
a
process
to
set
to
set
who
has
management
permissions
for
content
and
platforms
that
are
official
of
the
dow.
C
Finally,
we
have
primo
from
riscor
unit
who
propose
a
new
set
of
auction
parameters
for
the
largest
volt
types,
if
a
if
b
and
wbtca,
this
decision
stems
from
the
previous
governance
and
risk
call
discussion,
these
changes
will
be
pushed
to
be
included
in
an
on-chain
poll
next
week.
Moving
on
to
the
top
three
discussions
as
the
dow
scales,
the
problem
of
prioritization
continues
to
become
more
complex
for
core
units,
and
other
teams
long
provides
a
proposal
to
help
streamline
the
process
of
prior
prioritization.
C
His
post
includes
potential
implementation
of
voting
ideas
such
as
multi-winner,
instant
runoff
in
the
short
term
and
conviction
voting
in
the
long
term,
among
others
detailed
in
his
post
next,
after
informally,
consulting
with
legal
experts
who
win
within
and
external
to
the
dao
chris
cameron
identified
that
there
are
workarounds
to
the
dao
not
being
an
entity
and
in
response
he
asks
the
community
on
whether
we
would
like
to
pursue
a
layer
of
legal
representation
for
the
whole
dao.
This
poll
closes
soon
so
give
it
a
vote.
C
We
also
have
bowtie
iguana,
who
is
writing
an
article
about
maker,
dao
and
flagging
assets
held
with
circle
as
a
potential
risk
with
dissolution
in
full
effect.
He
asks
the
community
what
the
situation
would
be
if
a
dispute
were
to
arise
between
maker,
dow
and
circle
and
onto
signals.
We
have
two
active
signal:
requests
following
discussion
to
off-board
usd
usdt
token
from
the
maker
protocol.
C
Monit
supply
signals
to
ask
the
community
whether
we
support
the
parameter
changes
outlined
in
a
signal
request
on
the
forums
and
this
signal
ends
tomorrow,
so
give
it
a
vote
and
next
up.
Our
second
and
last
signal
should
be
signaling
to
adjust
the
surplus
buffer
to
help
prevent
it
from
filling
up
in
the
case
of
liquidation
penalties
collected
during
a
significant
market
drop,
and
that's
it
for
more
information
check
out
the
forum
at
a
glance
on
the
forums
which
includes
a
three-point
summary.
Ongoing
initiatives
help
wanted
and
also
some
more
announcements
and
discussions.
A
Great
yeah,
thank
you,
awesome
cool
okay,
so
that
brings
us
to
our
second
phase
of
the
meeting.
I
guess:
can
gonna
have
some
sort
of
more
themed
sort
of
updates,
slash
discussions
on
a
couple
of
topics,
so
I
think
we're
gonna
start
with
rocket
chat
migration,
as
hopefully,
most
of
you
know,
the
foundation
is
no
longer
able
to
maintain
the
rocket
chat
instance
that
we're
currently
using
for
chat.
A
D
Yeah
sure,
thanks
long
just
to
let
everybody
know,
nothing
is
as
far
as
I'm
aware,
nothing's
been
said
in
stone,
yet
so
going
to
describe
the
plan
that
we've
been
talking
about.
So
if
you
have
any
concerns,
please
feel
free
to
raise
them
now,
so
the
general
sentiment
seems
to
be
in
favor
of
discord.
We
have
other
options
that
have
been
discussed
include
key
base,
creating
a
new
rocket
chat.
You
know
even
using
slack
or
there's
some
other
tools
like
matrix
and
workstorm.
D
D
D
D
D
Yeah,
as
far
as
the
transition
goes,
the
plan
is
for,
I
believe,
govcoms
has
volunteered
to
help
collect
discord
handles.
You
know
we
like
to
try
and
get
as
many
people
invited
so
that
we
can
make
the
transition
as
smooth
as
possible
and
we're
also
looking
into
creating
nf
at
frank's
suggestion
we're
looking
into
creating
some
nfts
to
distribute
to
everyone
who's
coming
over,
who
has
participated
in
rocketchat
previously,
so
we're
looking
talking
with
pope
about
how
to
distribute
those.
D
A
I
think
we
sort
of
to
hear
from
from
people
generally
but
like
yeah,
especially
if
you
are
against
discord
that'd,
be
interesting
to
kind
of
hear,
because
I
think
almost
ever
we've
spoken
to
thus
far
has
been
very
discord,
which
is
great
and
I
think
we
can
still
lean
in
that
direction.
Unless
we
see,
I
don't
know
some
massive
problems,
sharp
or
anything
see.
A
Yeah,
it's
something
we're
sort
of
aware
of.
I
think
like
like
I've
started
using
discord
like
for
crypto
stuff
like
a
few
months
ago
now
right
so
I've
been
thinking
around.
All
the
other
channels
and
stuff
seem
to
be
sort
of
fairly
fairly
standard
mechanisms
to
sort
of
prevent
access
to
channels
like
gated,
with
captures
and
stuff
right,
so
hoping
that'll
keep
most
of
the
bots
out
of
like
the
sort
of
channels
themselves.
A
Anyone
who's
gonna
spend
any
time
in
discord
channels
themselves
pro
realizes.
The
most
annoying
part
is
such
that
users
kind
of
just
dm
you,
if
you're
in,
like
the
channels
to
try
and
get
you
to
to
do
stuff
kind
of
simple
way
to
deal
with.
That
is
just
like
a
user
option
to
sort
of
disable
like
kind
of
direct
messages
from
from
people
on
your
front
on
your
friends
list,
I
think,
and
from
certain
servers
but
yeah,
we'll
kind
of
keep
an
eye
and
sort
of
yeah
keep
track
of.
D
Yeah,
that
is
a
good
point.
Thank
you
for
bringing
that
up
on.
I
just
dropped
the
link
to
a
post
from
the
forum
we
put
up
a
about
a
week
ago.
We
have
talked
about
a
few
tactics.
We
can
implement
to
help
deal
with
that
and
if
anybody
else
has
other
ideas,
please
feel
free
to
comment
or
or
reach
out
to
to
someone
to
longer
myself.
A
I
I
think
a
lot
of
people
like
the
idea
of
discord
is
like
the
primary
platform,
because
lots
of
other
people
are
there
sort
of
generally
accessible
to
everyone,
and
people
are
familiar
with
it,
but
I
kind
of
like
matrix,
because
it's
sort
of
much
more
decentralized
than
discord
right.
It's
not
doesn't
have
a
centralized
operator
and
it'd
be
kind
of
good
to
have
like
a
backup
which
is
sort
of
more
decentralized.
I
guess
just
in
case
something
happens
with
discord.
F
And
I
assume
it's
like
there's
a
programmable
api
for
discord.
I've
only
never
used
it
as
a
user,
but
if
you
guys
are
bringing
up
concerns
about
bots,
I
assume
that
means
that
we'll
be
able
to
implement
things
like
chat,
ops,
type
stuff.
You
know
where
we
we
get
alerts
and
and
whatnot
from
either.
Let's
say
the
forums
or
from
stuff
we
check
on
chain
or
whatever,
and
maybe
even
can
take
actions
from
the
chat
channels.
A
Yeah,
there's
definitely
like
a
whole
bunch
of
like
bots
that
people
have
built
right,
discord's
been
around
for
ages
and
it
has
like
a
huge
community,
so
there's
kind
of
ready
to
go.
Bots
yeah,
there's
like
web
books
and
stuff,
not
sure
if
anyone's
built
any
like
blockchain
compatible
bots
so
would
be
kind
of
interesting.
I
imagine
someone
has
but
who
knows.
B
A
B
Have
one
like
more
about
the
like
the
time
frame
or
next
steps?
When,
when
do
you
think
we
will
have
the
discord
channel
enabled
and
what
are
the
plans
to
integrate
like
because
I,
I
guess
other
korean
units
have
their
own
server?
So
are
we
planning
to
integrate
those
servers
with
the
maker
dial
one
or
it
will
be
independent?
How?
How
do
you
have
you
thought
about
that?.
A
Yeah
sure
so
I'll
start
with
timeline
stuff
right
so
yeah.
The
plan
is
to
get
the
so
so
for
reference
and
we're
kind
of
working
on
the
channel
and
permissions
and
like
roles
set
up.
Seth
and
david
are
sort
of
working
on
the
user
user
side
right.
So
we're
kind
of
hoping
to
have
everything
like
two
tech
ops,
I
think
by
the
end
of
the
month,
yeah
two
weeks
we
said
maybe
the
end
of
the
week
before
the
end
of
the
month.
A
A
I'm
also
going
to
make
a
forum
post,
which
actually
kind
of
details,
the
sort
of
channel
and
role
setup
that
we
have
in
mind
for
comment
as
well
before
we
actually
do
it
in
terms
of
the
core
unit
question.
So
I
think
one
of
the
things
we're
going
to
do
is
kind
of
provide
channels
for
all
the
core
units
in
the
main
discords,
like
there'll,
be
like
public
versions
like
private
versions.
H
G
To
be
my
question,
because
I
saw
that
the
pleaser
dow,
that
dog
nft
whatever
token
dog,
thanks
to
saint
bourbon,
by
the
way
you
could
get
verified
by
connecting
your
metamask
wallet
to
the
discord
channel
and
all
you
have
to
prove-
is
that
you
own
dog
tokens
and
somehow
your
you
know
your
username
changes
colors,
but
I
can't
seem
to
find
the
instructions
on
it
but
yeah.
So
that
is
something
that
I
guess
you
know
we
might
be
able
to
do.
A
Yeah,
that's.
That
is
an
option.
I
think
I
think
we
want
to
be
a
little
bit
careful
as
to
what
like
our
sort
of
goals
are
when
we
do
that
right,
because
if
it's
just
to
prevent
spam,
I
think
there's
kind
of
better
ways
to
do
this,
like
I
think
we're
already
planning
to
have
sort
of
like
a
a
role
for
like
people
who
are
sort
of
you
know
sort
of
been
in
the
in
the
dow
for
sort
of
a
few.
A
A
We
could
also
or
potentially
have
that
like
based
on
mkr,
but
I
think
using
the
sort
of
token
setup
as
like
an
anti-spam
thing
is
maybe
bad,
because,
like
you're
gonna
have
some
subset
people
that
just
don't
want
to
think
like
metamouse
to
discord
in
any
way
right.
You're
gonna
have
and
then
there's
also
like
some
set
of
people
who
are
not
gonna
own
mkr,
but
also
have
like
valid
things
to
contribute
to
the
conversation.
A
Also,
the
forum
right,
so
I
think,
like
sort
of
having
it
as
like
an
anti-spam
measure
is
maybe
bad
if
you
just
kind
of
want
it
in
terms
of
like
hey,
this
person
owns
some
mkr,
maybe
yeah.
So
I
don't
know
it's
definitely
a
possibility.
I'm
sort
of
not
quite
convinced
if
it's
like
sort
of
what
it
sort
of
brings
us
right
at
this
stage,
but.
E
E
I
was
gonna
second,
that
there
are
definitely
stakeholders
in
our
ecosystem
that
might
not
be
mkr
holders
that
we
should
absolutely
let
in
our
communication
channels
so
yeah.
I
don't
agree
with
the
whole
mkr
chat
channel
like
for
everything,
maybe
like
a
dedicated
chat
channel
like
long
was
saying,
but
again,
I'm
kind
of
not
sure
what,
like
the
benefit,
is.
D
A
D
Yeah,
but
to
your
point,
we
have
discussed
kind
of
the
potential
liability
that
admins
and
admins
might
be
taking
on
and
if
there's
a
way
to,
I
believe
long
found
there's
a
way
to
designate
like
the
server
owner.
We
are
looking
into
figuring
out
how
to
if
we
can
make
the
you
know,
figure
out
a
way
to
delegate
that
to
the
dye
foundation.
A
A
A
Okay,
maybe
write
down
on
on
discord
and
migration.
As
I
said,
we're
gonna
have
I'm
gonna
post
a
forum
post
with
a
sort
of
breakdown
of
the
of
like
the
proposed
like
channel
setup
and
roll
set
up
for
comments.
Hopefully
by
the
end
of
next
week,
the
latest
so
yeah
that'll
be
sort
of
more
to
want
to
come
soon.
A
I
I
So
to
do
that,
we
spent
a
lot
of
time
with
the
teams
first
with
optimism
and
now
with
arbitrarium
to
a
convince
them
that
this
is
the
right
approach
and
b
to
actually
implement
it,
and
it
does
take
some
time.
However,
I'm
I'm
happy
to
say
that,
hopefully
we'll
be
seeing
die
on
our
bedroom
next
week.
I
We
are
really
really
close
to
have
that
work
done
just
the
final
phases
of
testing,
so
that's
arbitrary,
then
the
next
logical
step
for
us,
for
both
optimistic
roll-ups,
meaning,
optimism
and
arbitrary,
is
to
actually
start
implementing
the
fast
withdrawal
bridge.
This
is
a
little
bit
more
complicated
and
we
are
actually
doing
this
together
with
the
oracle
core
unit,
because
you
do
need
oracle
support
to
actually
make
it
happen.
I
But
once
that's
done,
we
actually
will
have
the
only,
in
our
opinion,
fast
withdrawal
bridge.
That
is
not
liquidity
constrained,
so,
if
you're
interested
in
how
it
actually
works,
I've
published
with
direct
the
forum
post
on
this
a
few
months
ago.
This
is
the
exact
design
that
will
be
used
and,
given
that
there's
so
much
capital
right
now
in
arbitrary
and
possibly
very
soon
in
optimism,
we
think
that
it
will
actually
allow
the
protocol
to
to
provide
some
liquidity
for
all
these
liquidity
flows.
I
So
now
we're
just
like
super
excited
about
that,
and
the
third
thing
that
we're
doing
right
now
is
to
sort
of
help
the
discussion
around
the
the
stark
net
support,
which
is
another
rollup
that
has
not
launched
yet,
but
it's
much
more
complicated.
It's
a
zika
roll-up
and
when
it
launches
by
the
end
of
the
year,
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we
are
kind
of
ready,
especially
from
the
engineering
point
of
view.
We
need
to
be
able
to
understand
this.
I
So
these
are
the
the
major
work
streams,
so
we
have
been
also
working
with
teams.
Doing
bridges
like
hope
protocol
we
want
to
explore
with
the
whole
protocol,
can
actually
use
die
liquidity
because
right
now
this
is
one
of
the
only
ways
to
move
your
funds
quickly
from
roll
up
to
roll
up.
You
can
also
use
connects.
I
E
I
have
a
question
so
there
is
like
all
of
these.
You
know
l2s
coming
about,
and-
and
I
know
that,
obviously
not
all
of
them
will
gain
like
you
know
their
fair
share
or
expected
mark
market
share.
I'm
curious
how
you
weigh
or
like
decide
between
like
the
priorities
of
the
different
l2s
that
you
are
working
on
and
also
for
things
that
are
not
in
existence
like
starkware
kind
of
what.
E
I
Now
this
is
a
very
good
question
and
it's
a
bit
of
a
I
guess,
a
judgment
on
which
team
and
which
roll-up
will
be
potentially
the
most
successful
in
the
future
right
and
you
wanna
sort
of
place
your
bets
wisely,
obviously,
but
for
us
I
think
the
main
criterium
is
sort
of
risk
factor.
I
mean
if
you've
noticed
my
tweets
and
we
are
kind
of
helping
out
to
beat
team
to
also
you
know,
sort
of
educate
the
whole
community
about
the
risk.
I
We
want
to
make
sure
that
the
die
that
you
actually
put
on
the
roll-up
and
take
it
back
is
as
safe
as
on
l1.
That's
why
we're
like
excited
about
the
roll-ups
with
our
bridge
and
for
other
chains
like
polygon
and
avalanche?
What
not
you
know?
We
think
that
the
current
approach
of
the
growth
team
and
other
teams,
which
is
to
simply
use
their
bridges
and
wrap
dye
into
a
wrapped
token,
it's
it's
it's
it's
pretty
workable
right.
We
might
change
our
approach
in
the
future,
but
that
should
work
fine.
I
Hopefully,
so
we
kind
of
think
that
you
know
with
the
the
security
of
development.
Also,
the
quality
of
the
team
comes,
I
guess
the
conviction
that
this
roll-up
is
safe
and
people
can
can
actually
do
stuff
on
it
safely.
Right,
and
this
is
literally
what
we
saw
on
arbitrary.
You
know.
I
don't
think
that
a
less
accomplished
team
could
have
pulled
it
off,
so
we
kind
of
follow.
You
know
the
quality
of
the
roll
up,
the
reputation
of
the
team,
but
obviously
also
liquidity
right
at
the
end
of
the
day.
I
You
know
we
have
to
sort
of
try
to
chase
liquidity,
and
then
this
is
the
major
factor.
So
two
combined,
I
think,
gives
us
a
good
picture
and
and
again
this
is
why
we
kind
of
helped
create
l
to
beat
to
track
both
liquidity
and
risk,
and-
and
this
is
why
we
kind
of
think
that
our
bitumen
optimism
are
probably
the
leaders
right
now.
B
B
The
one
thing
I
was
wondering:
I
don't
think
this
technology,
this
dark
net,
really
applies,
but
I
kind
of
want
to
know
if
there
was
some
way
that
we
could
be
the
dye
bridge
from
l1
into
the
side
chains.
You
know
to
provide
the
base
level,
die
security
and
then
cross
bridge
between
the
the
side
chains.
Right,
I
mean
literally
just
make
dye
ubiquitous.
B
I
Yeah,
it's
a
great
point,
and
this
is
an
important
consideration
for
us
and
again
we
I
mean
signed
chains
are
not
being
equal
and
the
the
main
problem
that
we've
got
right
now
is
that
the
side
chains
kind
of
break
the
the
whole-
let's
say
the
security
framework
of
dye,
which
is
minted
on
aetherium
right.
If
we
start
to
think
about
minting
dye
on
other
chains
and
then
obviously
that
die
has
a
very
different
risk
and
it
may
entirely
be
a
different
token.
I
So,
in
our
opinion,
being
able
to
mean
die
on
the
site
and
is
like
literally
saying
that
this
die
is
more
risky
than
that,
I
meant
it
on
ethereum,
because
you
know
it
it.
Apart
from
the
usual
risks
like
like
the
collateral
and
whatnot
right,
it
will
also
have
some
other
additional
risks
related
to
to
how
the
sidechain
is
secured
and
how
this
bridge
is
actually
secured.
I
So,
having
said
that,
we
think
that
it
is
possible
to
actually
die
on
on-site
chase.
However,
first
we
need
to
be
able
to
develop
what
we
call
the
the
sharded
vault
engine.
If
you
like
right,
you
know
the
much
much
more
complex
design
of
the
core
system
that
will
allow
us
to
somehow
contain
this
risk
to
create,
like
a
like,
like
a
local
debt
ceiling
for
a
sidechain.
I
So
I'm
not
sure
if
this
is
really
answering
your
question,
but
you
know
we're
definitely
thinking
about
it
and
then
this
is.
This
is
part
of
the
roadmap
as
well,
and
if
you,
if
you
look
at
the
multi-train
strategy,
you
know
I
I
kind
of
talked
about
it,
but
it's
hard
right
if
you
want
to
make
this
die
funchable
with
the
diana
one
it's
hard
to
just
just
think
about.
I
You
know
the
simple
use
case
you
go
to
polygon
or
whatever
you
meant
hundreds
of
millions
of
died
there
and
you
wanted
to
bridge
it
back
to
l1
right.
Where
does
this
diary
another
one
come
from.
That's
the
main
question
right,
the
one
that
you
sort
of
have
to
mint
so
that
you
know
you
can
actually
bridge
it
to
a
one.
I
I
A
I
Yeah
yeah
yeah
right
now,
because
they're
like
well,
first
of
all
they're
more
secure
and
secondly,
we
don't
have
to
think
about
the
bridge
because
it's
completely
permissionless
for
the
roll-ups
and
also
we're
prioritizing
the
fast
controls
which
can
be
done
only
on
rollups.
The
way
that
we're
trying
to
do
it
and
this
charted
fault
engine.
You
know
I
mean
I
guess
it
depends
on
the
community.
How
do
we
actually
prioritize
that
right?
I
mean
it's
a
complex
design.
I
H
I
I
mean
we
haven't
been
thinking
about
it
right
now.
Our
primary
concern
is
to
make
dye
available,
but
I
see
absolutely
no
reason
why
we
shouldn't
sort
of
think
about
it.
If
you've
got
the
evm
compliant
l2,
I
think
it
would
be
pretty
easy
to
to
sort
of
have
a
voting
system
there.
It's
going
to
be
much
cheaper,
official
and
and
both
optimistic
and
zika
rollups
can
be
used
to
this
end.
I
F
So
so
there
is
like
a
design
on
on
how
to
do
that,
but
part
of
that
design,
I
think,
was
leaning
on
dss-gov
us,
basically
having
the
the
newer
governance
module
in
order
in
order
for
that
to
work,
because
it
kind
of
became
like
a
use
case
of
delegation.
But
maybe
we
can
like
shoehorn
the
delegation
we
have
together
with
the
old
design
and
it
might
work.
F
Maybe
it's
kind
of
a
obvious,
but
generic
question:
do
we
have
a
preference
on
the
desire
to
meant
to
die
on
l2
or
vote
on
l2?
First
is
our
goal
to
have
inclusion
of
die,
which
I
would
just
say
we
could
do
with
bridges
or
maybe
I'm
missing
part
of
it,
but
to
me
the
voting
aspect
may
have
just
as
much
value
on
l2
and
having
inclusion
of
other
mkr
holders
as
the
ability
to
min
die
on
an
l2.
F
F
G
I
Of
transactions
in
the
mempool
definitely
not
processed
by
solana,
but
so
there's
a
bit
of
a
misunderstanding
here,
but
actually
what
happened
to
farby
trim?
I
mean,
I
don't
know
if
you
saw
my
tweet
today
about
this.
You
know
I
don't
think
it
was
as
serious
as
people
think,
because
it
was
just
the
sequencer
that
actually
was
kind
of
overwhelmed,
but
the
roll
up
itself
was
chugging
along.
You
know
just
fine,
so
if
you
just
wanted
to,
you
know,
grab
a
better
understanding.
Just
you
know
check
this
tweet.
I
I
However,
the
the
rollup
security
is
actually
implemented
inside
ethereum
smart
contracts
right,
so
I
don't
think
it's
actually.
I
mean
right
now.
Obviously
you
know
the
it's
upgradable
and
what
not
you
know.
It's
got
the
training
wheels,
but
if
this
is
like
not
beta
but
but
the
the
the
the
proper
release,
you
know,
I
think
it's
a
very
good
design.
In
my
opinion,
and
and
yeah
I
mean
you
can
always
overland
sequencer,
it's
a
centralized
service,
so
they
have
to
harden
it.
I
I
But
the
point
is
that
even
though
sequencer
is
centralized,
the
funds
are
safe
and
they
can
not
do
anything
to
to
steal
them
or
whatever
right.
So
that's
the
whole
idea
about
rollups,
so
yeah.
I
can't
tell
you
if
you
know
such
outage.
It
won't
happen
again,
it's
possible
and
it's
not
up
to
us,
but
but
it
doesn't
really
change
our
sort
of
perspective
on
the
risk.
It
will
be.
G
I
A
H
All
right
well,
thanks
guys
for
letting
me
join
this
call
and
give
a
quick
demo
on
some
of
the
features
that
we've
been
working
on.
I'm
phil
bain,
I'm
the
core
unit
facilitator
for
the
ducks
team,
and
before
that
I
was
a
I
was
a
foundation
member.
I
was
a
developer
for
two
years
working
on
a
lot
of
the
front-end
projects
that
we
have.
H
H
H
Okay,
there
we
go
okay,
so
the
main
feature,
the
biggest
feature
that
we've
kind
of
put
together
in
the
last
few
months
or
or
weeks
as
it
were,
is
the
delegates
feature.
So
some
of
you
are
definitely
aware
of
this,
but
many
of
you
might
not
be
so.
I
was
going
to
do
a
quick
overview
here.
So
when
you
first
land
on
the
delegates
page,
we
have
two
types
of
delegates,
the
recognized
delegates
and
then
down
at
the
end.
H
H
So
the
recognized
delegates
get
a
little
bit
more
of
a
priority
viewing
in
the
ui
and
they
get
a
little
bit
more
details
that
that
I'll
show
you
in
a
moment,
but
so
you
can
see
here.
We
have
the
list
of
delegates
and
one
thing
to
note:
is
we
don't
play
favorites
so
anytime?
You
visit
the
page.
If
I
refresh
right
now,
the
sorting
order
gets
randomized.
H
So
that
way
you
know,
there's
not
always
the
same
person
at
the
top,
who
perhaps
gets
all
the
delegates,
because
because
people
are
too
lazy
to
go
to
the
next
one,
I
guess
so.
When
you
look
at
these
cards,
we
been
trying
to
display
a
lot
of
important
information
for
the
user.
So
you
can
see
how
much
mkr
was
delegated
to
this
particular
delegate.
How
much
is
delegated
by
you
and
the
participation
score
and
the
communication
score.
H
These
scores
are
provided
by
gov
alpha
and
we
pull
in
their
data
into
the
ui
and
present
that
on
the
card
here,
but
another
really
nice
feature
of
the
card
is
you
can
see
what
executive
they're
currently
supporting?
So
you
can
kind
of
go
through
and
check,
make
sure
that
you
know
all
the
delegates
are
doing
their
their
duty
and
they're
up
to
date
on
the
latest
executives,
and
that
goes
for
the
same
thing
for
all
the
delegates.
H
So
even
the
shadow
delegates
you
can
see
how
much
mkr
is
delegated
to
them,
what
they're,
supporting
and
so
on.
So
we
can
dive
into
the
profile
page
of
the
delegate
here
a
little
bit,
so
the
delegates
all
are
able
to
kind
of
provide
this
little
bio
credentials.
This
is
what
the
benefit
of
being
a
recognized
delegate.
H
You
can
provide
some
external
external
links
here
and
then
again
we
have
these
stats
down
at
the
bottom,
to
kind
of
quickly
give
an
overview
of
of
the
information
about
this
delegate
and
then
along
the
top.
We
have
some
tabs
to
give
you
some
extra
details
and
one
of
the
most
exciting
ones.
Is
this
voting
history
page?
So
this
is
brand
new.
We
just
pushed
this
up
to
our
release
on
tuesday
and
I'm
really
excited
about
this
feature.
It
gives
the
entire
voting
history
for
any
given
delegate.
H
So
you
can
see
the
poll
that
they
voted
on.
You
can
see
the
option
that
they
voted
for,
and
you
can
also
get
this
quick
view
of
of
how
the
votes
went.
So
you
know
find
one.
That's
got
a
little
bit
more,
no
votes
here,
so
ninety-one
percent
going
yes,
nine
percent
going
for
no
and
so
on.
So
this
is
like
a
really
good
way,
just
to
look
at
a
delegate
and
make
sure
that
you
know
see
what
they're
voting
on
and
see.
H
And
one
other
thing
about
the
delegate
contracts
they
expire
after
a
year,
so
we
have
the
expiration
date
here.
Just
so,
people
are
aware
of
what
that
looks
like
when
this
delegate
contract
was
created
and
when
it
will
expire
so
yeah.
Once
you
take
a
look
at
some
of
these
polls,
you
can
kind
of
dig
into
them.
You
click
on
the
poll
and
it
brings
you
to
the
polling
detail
page.
H
This
page
has
been
around
for
a
while
the
polling
detail
page,
but
we
have
a
a
really
nice
visualization
that
we've
added
to
the
vote
breakdown.
So
you
have
the
traditional
vote.
Breakdown,
yes,
no
abstain
and
we
also
added
the
a
couple
new
features.
So
this
is
this
table
is
the
voting
by
address
table
and
you
can
see
exactly
who's
voting
on
a
given
poll.
What
they're
voting
on
the
mkr
amount
that
they're
voting
with
and
the
percentage
of
the
their
voting
power,
which
is
a
percentage
of
the
total
votes
for
this?
H
That
is
a
little
bit
more
exciting
to
look
at
momentarily,
but
one
thing
to
note
about
this
breakdown,
so
in
a
future
enhancement,
we
are
looking
to
kind
of
give
a
little
bit
more
nuanced
detail
as
to
where
this
maker
weight
comes
from
so
with
polling.
You
may
be
aware
that
it's
a
pretty
complicated
process
to
pull
in
all
the
the
different
weights.
If
you
have
a
vote
proxy
and
a
hot
wallet
and
a
cold
wallet
and
you've
got
mkr
locked
into
chief
and
mkr.
That's
in
your
in
your
wallet.
H
We
have
to
pull
from
all
these
various
different
places
to
calculate
your
voting
weight,
and
that
can
be
a
little
tricky.
So
if
we
could
provide
like
a
breakdown
for
this,
maybe
some
external
links
to
either
scan
or
whatnot
would
would
provide
a
lot
more
context
for
users.
So
again,
the
features
that
we're
looking
for
are
things
that
are
going
to
help
people
make
informed
decisions.
H
H
H
So
just
like
the
delegate's
profile
page
that
we
looked
at
this
will
give
you
the
polling,
history
or
the
polling
vote
history
I
should
say,
and
if
it
loads
there
we
go,
and
so
you
can
see.
This
is
just
a
regular
address,
a
voter
and
you
can
look
at
all
the
the
polling
that
they've
been
involved
in
as
well.
So
you
can
plug
your
own
address
in
there.
H
If
you
want
to
see
your
own
vote
history
and
look
at
all
this
data
side
by
side,
so
if
I
drill
into
this
one,
it
looks
like
there's
a
little
bit
more
interesting
vote
breakdown
to
take
a
look
at
so
yeah.
This
is
taking
a
look
at
the
pack
circle
chart
again
you
get
a
sense
of
like
who's
voting,
no
who's
voting.
H
H
One
sort
of
fun
feature
that
maybe
you
guys
have
seen
already
have
a
dark
mode
implemented
now.
So
this
is
so
people
can
vote
late
at
night
from
you
know
from
your
bed
or
whatever,
and
we
have
some
some
filters.
The
filters
for
the
poles
weren't
working
quite
that.
Well,
so
we
added
some
improvements
to
the
filters
here,
little
things
like
that,
so
yeah.
H
I
want
to
also
show
just
a
couple
of
quick
previews
of
some
features
that
we're
working
on
in
the
future
that
are
not
released
yet,
but
I
think
we'll
kind
of
go
in
line
with
helping
people
make
informed
decisions
so,
on
a
on
a
delegate
profile
page
we're
trying
we're
going
to
add
this
voting
weight
over
time,
so
this
would
be
a
graph
that
shows
how
much
mkr
was
delegated
to
this
person
over
a
period
of
time.
So
again
you
can
kind
of
look
at.
H
You
know
whether
more
people
are
delegating
or
less
people
are
delegating
and
see
the
pattern
there
and
kind
of
make
a
decision
if
you
want
to
delegate
your
mkr
to
this
person
or
not
based
on
on
these
trends
now,
so
this
one
is
in
the
works
and
another
really
exciting
feature
that
I'm
I'm
super
excited
about.
I
did
not
get
the
green
light
to
show
this
feature
from
our
designer,
so
forgive
me
thiago,
but
this
is
a
pull
comparison,
compatibility
page.
H
So
basically
you
we
will
compare
two
addresses,
so
we
could
show
the
user
their
compatibility
with
any
other
delegate
by
comparing
everybody's
vote
history.
So
in
this
example
we
see
that
you
know
we
voted
the
same
on
this,
this
poll
on
this
poll,
but
here
we
differed,
and
so
by
taking
that
data
comparing
two
different
vote
histories,
we
can
create,
like
a
compatibility
score
that
we
could
potentially
add
maybe
to
this
page
here,
so
that
people
can
look
who's.
H
The
delegate
that
most
represents
my
my
similar
interests
so
yeah.
Those
are
the
kind
of
features
that
we're
we're
interested
in
in
digging
into.
We
want
to
figure
out
ways
to
make
allow
people
to
verify
the
data
that's
displayed
and
allow
people
to
make
really
informed
decisions
about
how
they
vote
and
or
who
they
delegate
to,
and
things
like
that.
H
H
F
H
Yeah,
so
that's
a
great
good
question.
Let
me
see
if
I
can
find
a
ranked
choice
poll,
so
we
did
basically
what
we've
done
for
that
is
just
show
the
the
winning
the
option
that
they
voted
for
and
the
winning
option
yeah.
So
there's
we
haven't
spent.
We
had
to
kind
of
like
do
a
little
manual
work
around
to
get
the
the
ranked
choice
ones
to
work
with
the
voting
history.
H
Page
there's,
probably
some
more
research
we
could
do,
but
we
wanted
to
go
for
the
quick
win
of
the
plurality
polls
but
yeah
right
now.
We
would
just
I
don't
see
any
in
this
person's
history,
but
we
would
just
we
would
just
show
the
winning
option
and
then
the
option
that
they
voted
for
in
this
page
here.
H
D
H
Using
the
system,
that's
actually
another
feature
that
we
are
is
in
kind
of
progress
right
now,
something
that
you
know
similar
to
that
pack
circle
chart.
You
could
look
at
a
delegate
and
get
a
sense
of
like
all
the
people
delegating
to
this
delegate
and
how
much
mkr
they're
delegating
to
this
delegate
as
well,
so
yeah.
We
have
some
of
that
in
the
works
as
well.
E
H
So,
if
you're
familiar
with
what
they
do
right,
there's
a
couple
different
ways
of
doing
it,
but
right
now
they're
working
on
an
integration
for
us
that
we
might
you
know,
we've
got
some
demos
from
them
the
other
day.
So
that's
one
potential
way
that
would
be
like
when
there's
a
new
poll
created
a
new
executive
created
or
an
executive
is
about
to
end
or
sorry
poll
is
about
to
end
all
these
are
some
of
the
events
that
we've
talked
with
them
about
recording.
H
So
it's
kind
of
a
third
party
thing:
you
have
to
download
a
a
plugin
for
your
browser.
There
are
some
they
have
an
api
too,
but
that
would
require
a
little
bit
more
work
on
our
side.
So
we're
we're
looking
into
getting
this
very
basic
epns
integration
done
soon.
If
it
looks
good
and
we
we
approve
of
it,
we'll
push
it
out
and
share
it.
E
H
Yeah,
that's
an
interesting
question.
That's
come
up
a
lot
in
the
interviews
that
we've
done
with
some
of
our
with
the
delegates
and
other
holders.
Communication
in
general
seems
to
be
like
something
that's
closely
tied
to
this
and
it's
hard
to
integrate.
You
know
with
we.
We
don't
have
any
specific
plans
for
integrating
the
comments
into
the
the
polls
like
you
said
right
now,
but
it's
definitely
something
that
we
could
talk
about
put
in
our
roadmap.
You
know.
H
Currently
we
have
dennis
our
product
manager,
he's
working
really
hard
on
developing
our
roadmap
and
helping
us
put
together
a
backlog.
So
yeah
like
I
said,
for
people
who
have
feature
ideas
come
to
our
our
discord
or
our
frill
page
and
and
feel
free
to
contribute
those,
but
yeah
right
now
no
plans
for
that.
But
if
it's
something
that
people
want
to
see,
we
would
look
into
it.
B
H
That
is
a
really
good
question.
It's
come
up
in
our
in
our
brainstorming.
Again,
we
don't
have
any
like
concrete
implementation
for
that,
but
I
I
we
do
have
these
participation
metrics,
I
mean
that's,
that's
not
exactly
governance
effectiveness,
but
it's
kind
of
delegate
effectiveness
and
these
come
from
gov
alpha.
But
yeah.
We've
talked
a
lot
about
like
how
how
your
vote,
how
your
vote
impacts
you
know
the
future
and
how
we
can
get
those
statistics.
H
So,
for
example,
one
of
the
the
things
that
we're
going
to
add
soon
we've
been
working
with
tokenflow
is
this
on-chain
effects
feature
that
shows
you
the
effect
of
of
an
executive
vote
and
how
that
would
affect
the
protocol
and
so
yeah
finding
ways
to
measure
the
impact
of
that
over
a
period
of
time
would
be
really
awesome
and
something
that
we
we
totally
want
to
do.
We
we
haven't,
like
you
know,
had
a
lot
of
like
real
technical
research
into
it,
but
it's
definitely
on
our
priority
list.
H
But
impact
you
know,
that's
one
of
the
things
that
me
personally,
I
think,
is
one
of
the
best
ways
to
kind
of
like
drum
up.
Enthusiasm
is
kind
of
like
showing
where
your
vote
goes
and
what
your
vote
did
and
make
you
feel,
like
you
know,
when
you're
voting
you're
having
an
impact
so
any
way
we
can
display
that
and
measure
that,
for
the
user,
I
think
is
really
powerful.
So
definitely
expect
something
along
those
lines
in
the
next
I'll
say
in
the
next
year,
or
so
can't
give
you
a
timeline.
A
A
H
A
E
C
B
A
Yeah
seen
a
few
people
mention
lisbon
as
well,
but
there's
probably
gonna
be
a
few
times
to
bring
that
up
in
the
future.
So
we'll
leave
that
for
this
week,
I
think
all
right,
I
think,
we'll
wrap
it
up
there
so
yeah.
Thank
you
very
much
for
for
our
groups
and
the
updates
they
gave
and
yeah
thanks
everyone
for
coming
I'll
talk
to
you
all
next
week,
if
not
before,
thanks
guys,
bye,
guys.