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In this installment of the weekly discussion revolving around the latest news and topics on Microsoft 365, hosts – Vesa Juvonen (Microsoft) | @vesajuvonen and Waldek Mastykarz (Microsoft) | @waldekm, are joined by Redmond-based Principal Software Engineer - Gavin Barron (Microsoft) | @gavinbarron. The trio discussed the transition from ISV to Microsoft employee, cultural differences living in New Zealand and US, the role of the Principal Software Engineer, the Dev interview at Microsoft and latest work on the Microsoft Graph Team. Microsoft and PnP Community delivered 15 articles/videos in the last week! This session was recorded on Monday, August 22, 2022.
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A
A
Latest
on
microsoft,
365
we
do
have
a
visitor,
almost
always
on
the
show,
with
few
exceptions
in
the
past.
But
and
then
we
covered
the
latest
news
from
microsoft,
I'm
from
community
this
week
we
have
gavin
barron,
byron,
baron
right,
yes
from
the
microsoft
craft
team,
he
used
to
be
a
partner
partners
working
on
the
partner
side,
so
as
an
isv
or
a
system
integrator
but
joined
microsoft,
craft
team
quite
recently
a
few
weeks
ago.
A
So
we'll
talk
about
with
him
on
his
journey
to
be
an
mvp
and
then
moving
to
the
craft
team.
And
what
now
he's
been
pretty
open
on
social
media
and
on
the
fact
that
it's
it's
drinking
from
the
wild
fire
hose
and
trying
to
figure
out
how
the
system
actually
works.
So
how
long
did
it
take
you,
while
eric
on
getting
kind
of
a
relaxed.
B
So
that
was
an
interesting
thing
right
when
I
joined
so
before
I
joined,
I
was
in
the
microsoft
365
space
for
12
13
years
right
and
I
thought,
like
you
know
what
and
I
joined
myself
in
the
same
space
right,
so
I
used
to
work
in
365
base
or
sharepoint
office,
365,
microsoft,
365
with
all
the
things
like
you
know,
identity,
azure
and
all
that
so
tech
wise.
I
knew
my
things
and
I
joined
job
in
the
same
space
like
being
an
advocate
for
myself,
365
building
365
apps
was
like
okay.
B
I
know
this
and
then,
when
I
joined
I
recall
my
manager
said
you
know
what
it's
going
to
take
you
like
nine
months
to
really
like
you
know,
find
your
way
right
here.
No,
no,
no,
no
like
to
really
understand
how
things
work
and
all
those
yeah
nine
months
yeah.
I
was
like
I've
got
all
this
experience
like
true,
no
sure,
and
then
it
turned
out.
He
was
right,
but
I
was
right
too
right.
So
yes,
on
the
tech
space
I
was
like
I
got
it
like.
B
There
was
nothing
like
I
was
pretty
up
to
date
on
the
things
like
you
know,
like
teams,
microsoft,
graph,
apis,
azure
servers
like
all
the
tech
things
yep,
on
the
other
hand,
processes
people
how
we
look
at
impact
at
microsoft,
how
we
do
work,
how
we
organize
ourselves
all
the
different
teams.
Well,
I
knew
that
there
are
internal
teams
doing
different
things
like
how
people
work,
how
people
organize
how
people,
like
all
the
things
like
rear,
like
how
we
try
to
address
changes
in
the
market
through
rio.
B
It's
like
how
all
of
that
works
that
was
like
he
was
right.
It
definitely
took
me
a
few
months
to
really
like
find
my
place
and
like
how
do
I
fit
in
the
org
finding
my
pace,
how
you
communicate
about
things,
the
let's
say,
non-technical
part
of
the
job
that
definitely
took
me
a
few
months,
despite
like
me
like
how
no
way
I
know
my
things,
I'm
yeah,
I'm
not
coming
from
college.
I
yeah.
I
have
work
experience.
I
have
field
experience,
it's
like
yeah,
that's
cute,
and
this
is
different.
Yes,
exactly.
A
B
Right
but
then
we
also
need
to
appreciate
the
fact
that
our
developers
customers
they
approach.
Things
differently
like
how
we
are
organized
internally
is
less
relevant
to
them
when
they
build
apps
on
365
right,
so
so.
This
is
also
an
interesting,
dynamic
and
connection
that
in
my
job-
and
I
guess
you
have
exactly
the
same
thing
right-
what
that
you
can
bring
to
your
team
because
you're
exposed
to
that
and
they
might
be
exposed
to
that
a
bit
less
yep.
A
A
A
Welcome
kevin
to
the
pm
for
weekly,
it
is
episode
175.
I
don't
know
why
we
haven't
actually
invited
you
here
in
the
past
as
well
and
we
do
apologize,
but
it's
good
to
have
you
on
the
show.
We
now
do
have
a
good
excuse
to
have
you
on
the
show,
because
something
has
happened
in
your
career
side,
but
you
were
an
mvp
as
well.
Can
you
can
you
do
a
quick
intro?
What
you've
done
in
the
past,
and
what
do
you
do
now?
A
C
You
know
very
much:
a
developer
focused
mvp.
It's
always
what
I've
been
doing
is
software
development
and
web
development.
The
last
few
years,
though
I
haven't
been
so
much
in
the
sharepoint
and
office
space.
I've
actually
been
building
the
websites
for
all
the
large
microsoft
events
like
build
and
ignite
and
inspire
with
a
very
large
team
lots
of
other
vendors,
but
that's
been
quite
fun
but
yeah.
A
month
ago
now
I
started
with
microsoft
as
a
principal
on
the
microsoft
graph
team,
focusing
on
developer
experience,
specifically
I'm
looking
at
our
javascript
based
properties.
A
A
Now,
let's,
actually,
let's
focus
on
that
one
bit,
I
have
to
explain
so.
You've
worked
actually
super
closely
with
microsoft
for
quite
a
few
years,
so
if
anybody
has
signed
in
and
registered
to
ignite
or
build,
and
so
on,
they've
been
actually
using
stuff,
which
you
built
together
with
the
team
which
you've
been
part
of
and
you've
been
really
close
with
the
company,
but
still
moving
into
the
company
is
like,
oh,
oh,
oh,
oh,
this
is
how
it
works.
So
was
that
the
experience.
C
D
A
A
D
C
The
amount
of
output
we're
generating
with
the
small
team
that
we
have
for
the
graph
developer
experience
core
team,
like
it's
quite
impressive,
the
the
number
of
different
fronts
that
we're
delivering
software
on
with
the
size
of
team.
We
have
working
with
a
team
who
so
we've
got
folks
all
around
the
world.
C
D
A
D
A
Yeah
because
you
are
located
in
redmond
area,
let's
come
back
on
on
on
the
craft
toolkit
and
all
of
that
future
in
in
a
second
we're
going
to
deep
dive
and
get
all
things
out
of
you
and
talk
about
your
colleagues
like
vince
and
berea
and
all
of
that
stuff.
But
let's
talk
a
bit
about
the
new
zealand,
so
you
used
to
actually
be
in
new
zealand.
You
got
your
first
mvp,
probably
in
new
zealand.
A
C
C
C
A
A
D
A
To
be
able
to
be,
let's
say,
to
be
able
to
work
in
a
company
like
you
did
and
to
be
able
to
work
with
microsoft
efficiently
you
you
have
to
have
your
life
and
broken
in
balance
right.
So
therefore,
the
family
and
the
wife
situation.
Everything
else
has
to
be
in
balance,
of
course,
whatever
that
means
for
a
unique
is
highly
subjective,
so
everybody
has
their
own
way
of
doing
things,
but
it's
kind
of
a
good
thing
to
call
out
that.
That's
those
decisions
to
move
is
never
just
their
decisions
by
one
person.
C
Absolutely
we
actually,
when
the
company
said
hey
like
we
would
like
to
move
you
up
to
north
america.
The
timing
was
such
that
we
actually
said
hey,
let's
just
put
the
brakes
on
a
little
bit
here,
we'll
pause
that
for
about
a
year.
Please
because
turns
out
that
that
time,
my
wife
was
pregnant
with
our
first
child,
and
she
was
very
much
opposed
to
the
idea
of
moving
to
north
america
to
have
our
first
child
with
no
family
around
which
yeah
totally
makes
sense.
Yeah.
B
Worked
out
for
us
yep
yeah,
and
I
guess
it
is.
It
is
a
really
awesome
thing
right
that
it
goes
two
ways
right
so
so
on
one
hand,
the
company
wanted
you
to
go
there,
but
on
the
other
hand
they
totally
understood
like
yep,
not
now,
but
maybe
let's
revisit
in
a
year
and
that's
perfectly
fine
too
right,
so
you
didn't
have
that
push
that
you
had
to
do
it.
It's
either
now
or
never
right.
B
C
B
A
So
yeah,
but
on
that
moving
it's
now
the
situation,
then
that
are
you
gonna?
What's
the
do
you
have
a
long-term
plan,
or
are
you
gonna
see
how
long
you're
gonna
stay
in
in
the
seattle?
Because
again
I
can
imagine
the
the
new
zealanders
from
a
cultural
perspective,
it's
quite
different
and
they
keep
on
saying
actually
that
finland
and
new.
B
A
C
C
A
C
D
C
Fine,
they
are
sufficient,
nothing
more
yeah,
that's
fair
yeah!
You
know
this.
This
city,
at
least,
is
in
parts
highly
car
dependent,
there's
parts
places
that
you
live.
If
you
live
here
and
you
don't
have
a
car,
you're
gonna
have
a
horrible
time,
so
that's
been
quite
a
shift
where
my
wife
and
I
first
lived.
We
actually
deliberately
chose
to
live
in
places
with
good
access
to
public
transit,
to
get
me
to
and
from
work.
B
C
C
C
A
There
now
you've
now
stayed
in
seattle
for
a
while,
and
and
now
you
get
to
the
new
role
in
microsoft,
and
just
out
of
curiosity
so
aren't
is
the
family.
Looking
ahead,
it's
like
a
years
or
is
there
a
conclusion
already
that
we're
gonna
stay
here?
We're
gonna
fly
over
to
new
zealand
or
what's
the
what's
the
situation,
because
that
discussion
comes
up
for
sure
for
sure.
A
Yeah
yeah:
well,
you
never
know
how
the
world
changes.
We.
We
need
to
remember
that
world
has
changed
significantly
since
mid
february,
for
example
this
year
in
europe.
So
it's
just
you
never
know
completely
out
of
blue,
so
things
under
security
situations
and
everything
changes.
So
it's
just
the
status
of
the
world
where
we're
living.
So
it's
hard
to
predict
where
we
are
in
five
years.
B
A
Yeah
fair
point:
powerpoint.
Now,
let's,
let's
come
back
on
the
on
the
work
side
of
things,
so
you
you
mentioned
craft
toolkit
sdk.
So
that
probably
means
that
you're
working
with
vincent
and
I
was
checking
the
the
organization
chart
true
as
well
so
vincent
b,
ray
used
to
be
an
mvp
as
well.
We've
been
recruiting
quite
a
lot
of
family
peers
within
the
past
years,
which.
A
C
The
honest
answer
is
I
look
at
what
we're,
what
we're
planning
to
do
and
what
we
are
doing
and
weigh
in
where
I
think
I
need
to
say
hey.
I
think
this
is
a
really
good
idea
or
a
bad
idea,
or
maybe
we
need
to
look
at
different
approaches.
I
advise
the
teams
on
hey
these
are
these
are
things
that
are
coming
up
that
seem
to
be
emerging
trends
in
our
space?
These
are
things
we
need
to
be
looking
at.
C
Have
we
looked
at
talking
to
this
team
over
here
about
how
they're
doing
things
to
you
know
build
on
top
of
their
knowledge?
What
are
the
things
we
can
do
to
move
faster
in
more
sustainable
and
predictable
ways?
You
know
what
are
the
emerging
patterns
or
are
there?
You
know
key
changes
coming
within
the
technologies
that
we're
working
in
as
well
as
just
writing
code
from
time
to
time
that
happens
right.
D
A
Yeah,
that's
kind
of
the
one
thing
if
we
think
about
the
principle
in
microsoft,
it's
quite
often
that
that's
the
level
of
a
role
where
you're
no
longer
being
told
every
single
day
that
do
this.
Do
this?
Do
this
you're
being
expected
to
actually
figure
it
out
by
yourself
and
and
there's
a
bit
of
a
cultural
kind
of
a
change?
And
if
you
join
the
microsoft
and
you
get
to
be
a
principal,
you
might
be
like
wait.
Wait
nobody's
asked
what
what,
but
the
expectation
is
kind
of
you
are
senior
enough.
C
A
B
C
D
A
B
Then
actually,
he
actually
shared
a
nice
article
about
his
experiences
at
pm.
I
think
he
was
pm
for
almost
a
year
nine
months-ish
right.
So
it
was
really
interesting
to
hear
like
how
he
experienced
the
role
as
a
pm
in
in
the
graph
org
because,
like
like,
even
a
piano,
will
differ
across
the
orgs
right
because
it
depends
at
the
end
of
the
day
where,
in
microsoft
you
sit
how
like
what
what
dependence
you
have
on
other
teams.
B
What
is
the
life
cycle
of
the
product
you're
managing
right,
because
if
it's
very
early
on,
you
will
be
doing
more
discovery,
product
product
market
fit
work
where,
if
it's
product
that's
been
around
a
few
years,
maybe
you're
gonna
be
looking
at
the
next
curve
or
trying
to
you
know,
lengthen
the
product
life
cycle,
and
so
it's
different
game
too
right.
So
it
was
interesting
either
way
to
hear
from
him
how
he
experienced
that
and
how
he
preferred
to
sit
to
spend
his
less
of
his
time
in
email
and
more
in
code.
C
B
C
D
A
A
I
know
I
know
it's
an
ongoing
joke,
but
I'm
no
longer
allowed
to
write
code.
I
guess
it's
a
good
thing,
though
so
I've
I've
done
my
fair
share
of
writing
code,
but
so
and
we
actually
it's
it's
in.
Of
course
it's
it's.
It
highly
depends
on
a
human
as
well.
We
need
all
different
kind
of
people.
We
need
people
who
can
write
code,
we
need
people
who
coordinate
communications.
A
A
B
The
other
hand-
well
I
mean
so
in
the
open
source
world,
I
do
write
cli
from
65
and
that
is
production
code.
So
I'm
not
playing
quite
quite
fair
and
it's
kind
of
just
interesting.
I
think
that
we
have
the
room,
even
in
our
work
to
you
know,
pursue
other
things
that
you
find
find
interesting
and
we
are
even
encouraged
to
do
that
right,
like
if
you
want
to
try
something.
B
Do
it
like
there's
room
like
my
role,
isn't
really
fixed
to
a
specific
area
right
because
being
advocate,
it
really
spends
anything
in
everything,
from
dogs
to
content,
to
videos
to
improvement
in
product
too
right.
That
is
also
a
thing
and,
depending
when
you
let,
where
you
land
on
the
spectrum,
like
you
have
folks
who
spend
more
time
in
dogs,
you
have
a
bunch
of
folks
who
create
really
awesome
videos.
Then
you
have
folks
who
love
to
hack
and
there
is
room
for
everybody
and
it's
all
perfectly
fine.
A
Are
because
again,
the
engineering
team
would
not
really
scale
for
that.
So
therefore,
there's
a
separate
theme
of
doing
that
and
and
then
the
teams
have
their
own
objectives
and
the
the
okrs,
how
they're
being
measured
and
all
of
that
stuff
so
which
makes
perfect
sense
just
to
explain
for
those
who
are
listening
or
watching
and
be
like.
How
does
it
actually
work.
A
B
It
is
that's
a
question,
and
now
you
mentioned
it
on
my
script
and
it's
top
in
there.
One
thing
I
see
a
lot,
especially
you
know:
social
media
reddit.
All
that,
like
people
are
highly
interested,
you
know
like
being
deaf.
They
aspire
a
job
in
microsoft
or
any
other
large
tech
company.
I
don't
know
if
you
would
extend.
Can
you
share
anything
from
the
interview
you
had
like?
Was
it
the
leap
code
kind
of
paper,
programming,
algorithms
thing
or
was
it
there
was?
C
Great
question
there
was
some:
I
had
a
really
interesting
series
of
interviews
because
it's
not
just
one.
It's
a
it's
a
whole
loop
of
interviews,
the
one
that
I
enjoyed,
the
most
was
actually
the
systems
design
interview
where
you
know
we
talked
through
a
scenario,
and
you
know
what
would
you
do
to
design
and
build
a
system
to
do
this
and
okay?
Now?
C
C
I
walked
away
from
that
thinking.
I
didn't
have
a
wasn't
going
to
get
a
job
offer
frankly,
yeah,
so
I
mean
the
the
those
interview
processes
are
designed
to
extend
you
and
take
you
well
out
of
your
comfort
zone
to
understand
where
you
are
good
and
why
you're
not
so
good-
and
you
know
that
was
a
process.
A
It's
good
and
it's
I,
I
think,
the
the
hiring
microsoft
as
a
hiring
company
or
whoever
they
typically
understand
that
there's
always
room
for
improvement.
You
do
not
need
to
be
perfect,
so
it's
not
about
being
perfect,
it's
more
about
being
honest
and
understanding
where
you
can
improved
and
and
openly
also
call
them
out.
So
if
they're
saying
like
hey,
I
do
acknowledge
that
this
is
an
area
where
I
can
improve.
A
A
C
C
It's
not
it's
about
having
a
conversation
so
that
you
and
the
company
you're
interviewing
with,
can
find
someone
who's
the
right
fit
for
the
role
that
might
be
not
might
not
be
you
and
that's
right,
because
if
it's
not
you
you've
dodged
a
bullet
by
not
landing
in
a
role.
That's
not
the
right
shape
for
you.
You
should
be
asking
questions,
think
about
intelligent
questions
that
show
that
you've
done
your
homework
about
the
company,
the
org,
the
product
that
you're
going
to
be
working
with
and
think
about
how
you
like
to
be
managed.
C
You
know
what
it
you
know,
ask
the
manager.
How
do
you
like
to
manage
people?
What
do
you
think
an
effective
way
of
managing
people
is
what
are
some
times
that
you,
as
a
manager,
have
made
mistakes
and
what
would
you
do
to
change
it?
Like
I
from
for
me
that
process
was
about
finding
out
as
much
as
I
could
about
the
the
group
I
was
going
into
and
going
into
it.
B
A
C
A
Cool
now,
what's
just
to
wrap
up
the
the
discussion
and
thank
you
gavin
for
your
time.
I
know
that
you're
super
busy
on
catching
up
on
things
as
well,
but
what's
happening
this
week,
anything
what
you're
gonna
talk
about
it's
monday
now
any
any
interesting
things
which
under
nda
just
with
us
in
this
video
and
the
podcast.
C
A
B
This
is
my
second
week
back
from
vacation,
so
I'm
very
caught
up
with
email,
no
more
emails
for
me
to
check
no
more
replies,
I'm
wait!
Actually
you
look
looking
forward
to
talk
to
folks
who
are
now
back
too
so
that
we
can
catch
up
on
everything
that
that
has
been
done
over
the
past
weeks
that
I
was
away
and
it's
still
very
much
time
of
the
planning
finalizing
our
plans,
and
there
are
a
few
things
that
are
in
progress.
B
So
we
will
share
more
about
that
as
we
as
we
go
more
towards
I
believe
september,
but
specifically
this
week
on
thursday.
Actually
I
will
be
showing
the
one
of
the
recently
added
features
to
sharepoint
framework,
which
is
about
extending
list
forms,
so
you
might
have
heard
that
now
in
spfx
you
have
this
ability
to
that.
B
You
can
customize
the
new
view
added
forms
on
the
list
and
I'll
walk
you
through
the
beginnings
of
it
like
really
the
basics,
what
it
is,
how
it
works
really
from
the
level
0
level
10
through
all
the
basics,
all
the
different
things
you
have
to
have
in
place
and
if
time
awares
allows.
We
also
walk
through
some
demos
like
how
what
could
you
think
of
building
on
top
of
that?
So
if
you
have
time
that
will
be
I'm
so
better
than
time
there.
B
A
So
I
have
to
say
you're
helping
with
some
of
the
planning
for
demos
and
content
for
the
upcoming
conferences.
So
that's
always
highly
useful
and
that's
a
super
super
useful
thing
for
the
cloud
advocates
as
well,
but
it's
not
like
the
the
cvps
and
the
pms
actually
get
to
write
the
code
on
things.
There's
this.
Luckily,
we
have
cloud
advocates
who
can
help
on
the
credible
demos.
A
On
my
site,
a
lot
of
community
work
a
lot
of
catching
up
on
things.
Still
it's
just
a
lot
of
open-ended
discussions
and
and
things
we're
prepping
on
my
pm
side
of
the
world,
we're
prepping
shape
on
framework
1.16
preview,
which,
when
we're
rolling
out
microsoft
teams,
v2
sdk
update
right
now
on
sharepoint
framework.
A
So
that's
already
fifty
percent
in
targeted
release
tenants,
which
means
that
all
of
the
sharepoint
frameworks
revolutions
are
using
teams,
yes,
javascript
sdkv2
automatically,
but
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
other
stuff
in
the
pipeline
as
well.
But
it's
it's
like.
We
talked
when
we
started
this
one
as
a
pm
communication,
communication,
communications,
so
many
things
jumping
in
and
and
being
a
in
a
company
and
being
in
a
product
for
quite
a
long
time.
A
A
question
about
it-
and
you
know,
but
but
we'll
spend
two
minutes
on
this.
The
interesting
thing
is,
which
is
not
necessarily
that
visible
externally.
Is
that,
of
course,
the
product
itself,
even
though
we
do
no
longer
ship
really
a
non-premises
version
except
the
one
which
is
kind
of
a
fork
from
the
sharepoint
online,
but
the
the
back
end
still
has
a
lot
of
functionalities,
which
are
the
same
as
we
had
in
2010,
2016
or
whatever.
So
the
on-premises
kind
of
a
mental
mindset
in
the
back-end
is
worth
it
there.
A
So
sp
web
is
still
there,
so
so
it's
just
then
interesting
nuances
and
therefore,
or
let's
say,
content
type
site
columns.
All
of
that
in
the
sharepoint,
because
I
work
in
onedrive
sharepoint
world.
All
of
that
basic
concepts
of
replication
copying
and
all
that's
inheritance
still
does
exist.
So
all
of
that
has
an
impact
so.
A
A
B
C
B
B
C
A
B
A
Anyway,
thank
you
gavin
for
joining
us
on
this
memory
lane,
but
congratulations
on
the
new
role
really
cool
to
have
you
in
the
company
as
well
and
and
awesome
to
have
a
one
more
mvp.
Turning
on
the
company
because,
again,
mvps
have
the
real
world
experience.
It's
not
that
the
non-mmps
wouldn't
have,
but
you've
been
around
for
a
long
time.
You
know
how
to
how
people
are
building
for
the
microsoft
365.
A
Great
to
catch
up
as
well,
it's
been
a
while
since
we've
been
in
the
same
location,
so
almost
like
a
same
location
but
anyway,
and
thank
you,
everybody
for
watching
and
listening
and
we'll
jump
on
the
weekly
articles
right
after
this
with
waldek
on
the
show
cheers.
Thank
you
excellent.
Thank
you
gavin
for
that
discussion
really
record
and
congratulations
to
join
microsoft.
A
We're
super
happy
to
have
you
here:
you've
been
so
active
throughout
the
years
in
the
mvp
channels,
community
channels
and
and
you
certainly
have
sufficient
amount
of
experience
from
a
technical
perspective
again
for
the
role.
So
that's
that's
part
of
the
things
and,
of
course,
after
a
few
months,
you'll
be
running
and
doing
changes
and
really
making
world
by
the
worldwide
impact,
which
is
really
really
cool
as
well.
But
let's
jump
on
the
weekly
articles
so
what's
happening
within
the
microsoft
news
and
in
the
community
news.
A
So
let
me
share
my
screen,
and
can
you
see
it?
Can
you
see
it?
Yes,
I
can
excellent
so,
first
of
all,
and
not
that
much
actually
news
from
microsoft
this
week.
So
the
only
organization
which
was
releasing
blog
posts
strange
was
the
power
power
platform
organization,
not
that
it's
a
strange
power
platform
organization
release
news,
but
nobody
else
was
releasing
any
news,
which
was
a
bit
of
a
interesting
coincidence.
Probably
will
have
a
massive
amount
of
news
than
on
the
current
week.
A
Right,
yes,
which
could
easily
happen
anyway
on
the
power
platform
side.
Let's
start
from
here
so
power
platform,
power
automate
for
desktop,
there's
a
2022
update
and
a
new
version
available
with
new
functionalities
and
new
input
options
for
excel
integration
and
sharepoint
connector
actions
are
now
introduced,
also
in
power
automate
for
desktop
and
really
very
cool
additional
scenarios
related.
Actually,
under
that
sharepoint
sharepoint
connector
actions,
there
was
another
blog
post
related
on
that
one
as
well,
which
explicitly
focuses
on
that
from
james.
B
A
B
B
Instead,
what
they
share
in
the
article
with
the
latest
power
platform
cli,
you
can
apparently
generate
an
app
you
point
to
an
api
and
what
you
get
back
is
a
canvas
app
a
power
app
that
basically
has
the
basic
in
it,
and
probably
the
last
thing
left
for
you
is
to
adjust
the
ui
to
your
needs.
Maybe
do
some
few
things,
but
you
no
longer
need
to
start
from
this
empty
screen.
So
it's
not.
It
doesn't
intimidate
as
much,
especially
if
you
are
not
really
technically
or
highly
advanced
in
in
tech
right.
B
Yeah
yeah,
so
so,
in
other
words
like,
if
you
are
not
not
a
dev
like
it
might
be
intimidating
for
you
to
start
building
an
app
against
an
api,
so
this
might
be
a
great
great
great
place
to
start
because
it
takes
you
know
this
edge
off
and
gives
you
a
place
to
start
that.
Is
it
an
empty
screen?
Yeah.
A
This
is
this
is
certainly
going
to
simplify
things
and
speed
up
development
for
sure
and
then
again,
focus
on
the
ux
level
and
the
business
logic
behind
all
the
experiences
on
the
for
end,
users
really
really
cool
stuff.
We
should
do
something
like
this
in
the
in
the
other
areas
as
well.
We
need
to.
B
Also,
that's
an
interesting
thing
right.
If
you
watch
or
listen
to
this
episode,
get
back
to
us
and
tell
us,
is
this
something
that
you
would
like
to
see
in
other
areas
like
teams,
apps,
spfx,
apps,
viva
apps
would
would
it
be
something
that
would
would
help
you
or
he's
like
well,
but
connecting
to
the
api?
Isn't
really
the
hardest
part?
Really
so
yeah.
A
A
B
B
That
is
being
used
every
single
day
by
many
many
folks,
and
we
have
few
hundred
commands
so
c
like
grows
and
keeps
growing
as
m365
evolves
and,
as
we
add
new
features,
and
we
want
to
ensure
that
we
can
manage
that
growth
in
a
way
that
doesn't
harm
us
and
gives
everybody.
You
know
timely
answers
to
whatever
requests
you
have,
whether
there
is
a
feature
you'd
like
to
see
or
you
have
question
or
you
caught
a
bug,
so
we
want
to
ensure
that
we
can
handle
all
that.
B
So
as
our
usage
and
engagement
and
reach
evolves,
we
want
to
also
grow
our
team
so
that
it
is
in
balance
and
with
that
it's
really
cool
to
see
to
get
jc
and
milan
on
our
team,
because
they've
been
highly
active,
they've
been
working
with
us.
A
lot
on
things
like
from
small
enhancements
to
big
features,
providing
ideas
for
improvements.
So
it's
really
great
to
invite
them
to
the
team
and
to
have
them
join
our
team
and
I'm
curious
to
see
you
know
like
what
will
this
lead
to.
A
Yep,
absolutely
and
just
to
evolve,
elaborate
that
even
a
bit
more
is
that,
of
course,
the
the
cll
for
microsoft.
365
is
spotted
microsoft
platform,
community
activities,
and
this
is
typically
work.
What
we
internally,
even
you,
do
on
weekends
and
extra
times
or
evenings.
So
it's
not
necessarily
part
of
our
role
and
time
to
do
that.
So
it's
open
source
community,
driven
we
as
a
microsoft,
we're
part
of
the
community
and
cli
for
microsoft.
A
365
is
pretty
an
example
of
highly
successful
one
of
those
projects
and
we're
always
looking
for
additional
people
being
part
of
these
engagements
across
the
different
projects
which
are
running
because
it
helps
on
having
more
people
who
are
maintainers
and
we
can
be
more
efficient
through
the
community
channels
as
well.
But
thank
you
really
really
good
news
and
and
awesome
awesome
work,
jc
and
milan
on
first
of
all,
being
active
and
then
getting
invited
on
and
accepting
the
the
maintenance
of
being
a
maintainer
role
in
the
project
as
well,
really
really
cool
awesome.
A
To
say
that
now
we
also
had
a
new
blog
post
from
luisa
freeze
around
get
started
with
planning
your
powerapps
components
properly
and
she's
been
really
focusing
again
on
the
components,
creation,
side
and
power
platform,
or
making
them
a
bit
prettier
and
more
reusable,
rather
than
always
starting
the
creation
of
an
application
from
scratch,
because
that's
not
necessarily
and
the
most
efficient
way
of
making
beautiful.
Looking
experiences
so
she's
been.
A
B
To
monitor
build
host
agent
from
power
platform
right
so
imagine
azure
devops,
you
have
an
agent
that
is
responsible
for
doing,
builds
right.
It
picks
up
whatever
you
have
in
code
and
turns
it
into
or
runs
on
top
of
that
a
build,
and
you
want
to
be
able
to
monitor
that
in
in
a
way
that,
like
in
in
this
case,
you
want
to
get
adaptive
card
in
teams
whenever
build,
completed
or
not,
or
it
failed
succeeded
and
whatnot
right.
So
you
want
to
be
able
to
orchestrate
that
and
power.
B
Automate
is
a
really
great
way
to
do
that,
because
it
allows
you
to
really
easily
connect
to
both
devops
and
teams
without
fiddling
with
auth
by
yourself,
and
it
has
the
access
to
you
know
the
things
like
events
from
the
pipeline
and
so
forth
and
so
on,
and
it
also
offers
you
this
really
easy
way
to
post
to
teams.
So
this
is
a
great
way
to
have.
B
Power
might
be
that
glue
in
between
that
allows
you
to
monitor
a
service,
in
this
case
azure
devops,
and
bring
status
in
for
from
that
to
where
you
already
are
in
your
work.
In
microsoft
teams
you
know
so
that
you
don't
need
to
pay
attention
to
multiple
things,
but
can
work
within
teams
and
get
input
from
all
systems
that
you
use
in
there
already
yeah.
A
This
is
awesome
example
of
power,
automating
the
business
workflow
engine
behind
of
the
scenes
and
making
sure
that
something
happens
there.
Fine,
let's
actually
move
it
in
here,
I'll
push
that
one
forward
and
all
of
that
so
really
really
cool
and,
of
course,
the
user
notifications
around
what's
happening
behind
the
scenes
included
in
there.
A
So
really
really
great
great
work,
duval
the
one
related
on
the
process
and
clarifying
how
this
could
be
done
now,
laura
had
a
new
blog
post
about
auto
config,
auto
configuring
sharepoint
sites
with
site
templates,
the
setup
from
start
to
finish
in
a
typical
way.
Laura
goes
through
and
explains
the
whole
scenario
and
has
a
lot
of
details
and
insights
related
on
all
of
the
different
things.
A
What
we
can
do
around
complex
templates,
which
are
not
necessarily
fully
supported
in
the
json
and
how
we
can
call
on
azure
functions
and
implement
things
and
authenticate
back
and
all
of
that
stuff,
so
really
really
cool
stuff
from
her
explaining
the
the
processes
and
models
and
even
though
the
the
out-of-the-box
site
template
definitions
are
relatively
flexible
nowadays.
Quite
often
you
need
to
do
something.
A
A
B
Yes,
yes,
absolutely
like
it's
always
like
being
one
step
ahead
of
you.
Like
you
read
it,
you
come
up
with
a
thing:
yeah,
it's
there
yeah,
that's
one
thing,
because
it
only
proves
right
that
she's
coming
from
a
field,
so
she
has
a
lot
of
hands-on
experience
with
that
where
you
actually
come
across
all
of
that,
and
then
it's
not
just
a
single
thought.
Someone
had
and
you
share
that,
but
it's
basically
the
result
of
year-long
experience
in
the
field
doing
this
work,
and
then
you
turn
it
into.
You
know
what
I
like.
B
A
Absolutely
now
morrison
who
works
in
the
velo
solutions,
works
around
with
the
sharepoint
framework
and
build
stuff
for
the
microsoft
teams
and
viva
and
sharepoint
framework,
and
coming
back
on
which
just
said
related
on
experiences
from
the
field.
He
is
a
really
good
developer
and
building
stuff
for
their
offerings.
Cool
thing
is
that
he
is
allowed
to
share
his
learnings
within
the
within
a
platform
and
in
open
source
as
well,
and
this
one
first
article
is
around
dependency
injection
using
spfx
server
scope.
A
So,
basically
a
pattern
how
to
do
that
and
what
does
it
actually
mean
and
what's
the
benefits
out
of
using
this
pattern
within
your
sharepoint
framework
solutions,
so
really
really
cool
stuff
from
mars,
and
there
I'm
gonna
actually
cover
the
next
one
as
well
from
marsync,
which
is
around
batching
microsoft,
craft
requests
from
multiple
x
packages.
So
how
can
we
optimize
the
behavior
with
the
spfx
solutions
as
we're
using
microsoft,
graph
api
hitting
the
graph
behind
of
the
same?
A
So,
of
course,
we're
hitting
the
graph,
because
graph
is
the
access
point
for
everything.
So,
but
really
really.
Good
learning
is
not
a
super
long
things,
but
calling
out
the
key
scenarios
on
how
things
can
be
done
so
really
really
cool.
That's
by
the
way.
A
good
example
of
batching
two
different
requests,
which
is
optimizing
rather
than
having
one
request:
another
request,
search,
request
and
waiting
for
pakistan.
You
can
actually
do
it
as
a
batch
operation.
B
Exactly
yeah
so
not
really
a
deep
dive
tech
article
this
time,
but
more
around
thinking
about
the
work
apps
right.
So
if,
if
you
build
apps
for
your
company
like
this,
we
call
them
work,
apps
or
apps
for
work,
and
that
can
they
can
be
really
about
anything
and
everything
like
managing
projects,
managing
orders
whatever
it
is
that
your
company
needs
to
do
for
work
right
and
oftentimes.
B
What
we
see
when
we
talk
to
customers
and
partners
is
that
these
apps
focus
on
their
objective
right,
so
managing
a
project
means
showing
the
project
info
project
team
and
about
that,
and
if
you
think
about
that,
when
you
build,
when
you
work
on
a
project,
there's
more
to
it,
like
you
communicate
with
the
customer,
you
communicate
within
project
team.
Who
is
a
project
team?
You
need
info
about
people
who
are
on
a
team.
You
probably
need
files
and
oftentimes.
You
have
other
systems
where
you
can
store
that
info
like
on
the
iphone
365.
B
B
What
are
we
working
on
and
so
forth
and
so
on,
and
the
alternative
is
something
that
I
talk
about
in
the
article
in
depth.
Right
is
that
you
can
use
apis
that
are
available
on
microsoft,
365
to
bring
that
data
directly
to
your
app,
and
there
are
benefits
to
that.
So
if
you're
interested
in
this
space,
not
really
going
deep
dive
in
attack
about
how
you
would
do
it,
but
just
the
fact
that
you
can
do
it
and
there's
something
for
you
to
think
about
check
out
check
out
the
article.
A
Yeah,
absolutely
I
I
think
it's
all
about
the
ideas
and
okay.
So
can
I
do
that?
What
does
it
actually
mean?
And
oh
then
you
spark
an
idea
and
then
you
start
implementing
things
so
because
before
we
write
code,
it
would
be
good
to
think
through.
Why
are
we
writing
the
code
and
what
does
actually?
What
are
we
trying
to
accomplish
so.
B
Even
just
the
fact
that
you
can
do
it
that
that's
something
that
you
could
include
right,
so
just
that
first
step
like
aha,
I
didn't
know
that
that
was
a
thing
right,
because
exactly
we've
been
around
for
so
long
that
to
us
many
of
these
things
are
what
duh.
Of
course
you
can
do
that,
but
well
every
day
there
are
useful
start
exactly.
B
A
Absolutely
now
marcus
merler
had
a
new
blog
post
as
well
related
on
teams,
meeting
app
api
in
a
bot
activity
handler
and
it
talks
about
how
to
access
the
information
and
using
the
apis,
because
there's
more
and
more
interest
and
hopefully
more
and
more
demand
for
microsoft
meeting
apps.
So
it
is
an
interesting
new
scenario
and
he
actually
demonstrates
what
kind
of
information
is
available,
how
he
can
access
the
information,
how
you
hit
the
apis
and
all
of
that
within
his
sample
and
I've.
A
A
B
A
A
A
Well,
bmpjs
is,
is
this
few
things
so
first
of
all,
pmpjs
is
using
partly
the
native
sharepoint
rest
api
surface.
So
you
don't
have
to
authenticate
with
an
azure
ad,
because,
if
you're
running
in
the
context
of
the
sharepoint
already
and
you
kind
of
have
access
on
the
endpoint
so
well,
not
kind
of
you
have
access
on
the
endpoints
and
then
the
mbt
is
just
an
abstraction
of
that
rest
layer.
Now
on
the
the
craft,
javascript
sdk
site
right
now,
still
the
craft
sdk
is
not
fluent.
A
So
there
are
graph
apis
in
bmpjs
focusing
on
certain
areas,
and
it
provides
because
it's
kind
of
affluent
dot
lists
dot,
get
item
dot
whatever.
So
you
don't
have
to
remember
that
full
url.
Now,
a
lot
of
the
learnings
which
are
in
the
bmpjs
are
getting
also
adapted
in
the
microsoft
graph
sdk.
So
sooner
or
later,
we'll
see
an
update
on
that
side
as
well,
and
that
doesn't
mean
that
the
mpts
is
necessarily
going
to
go
away.
A
There's
a
use
case
for
that
as
well,
but
it's
it's
really
kind
of
a
cool
to
see
how
widely
this
is
being
used.
It
was
actually
originally
created
in
2016.,
so
it's
been
around
for
a
while
yeah
yeah,
that's
true
cool.
Then
we
have
three
videos:
paulo,
had
a
video
related
on
the
third
pnp,
modern
search
webparts.
A
So
using
the
search
results,
we're
partying,
bmp,
modern
search
and-
and
these
are
open
source
community
treatment,
web
parts
actually,
which
are
used
in
thousands
and
thousands
and
thousands
of
tenants
all
around
the
world
within
a
monthly
basis.
So
really
really
cool
to
see
the
success
here
as
well
and
paulo
talks
about
what
does
the
web
part
actually
provides
and
how
it
can
be
used
to
create
your
own
enterprise
search
experience
within
your
tenant.
B
Css:
basics
for
local
devs,
so,
apparently,
when
you
build
power
apps
you
can
use
like
html
and
css
are
relevant
and
if
you're
coming
from
a
no
code
or
low
code
background
that
that
might
not
be
top
of
your
head
so
april
gives
you
a
great
overview
how
to
start.
You
know
with
html
and
css
what
it's
for,
how
it
works,
really
the
basics
for
you
to
be
able
to
start
and
get
you
basically
to
the
point
where
you
can
ask
relevant
questions.
B
Okay,
I
need
to
know
more
about
x
because
it's
often
times
you
know
the
hardest
part
where
to
start,
because
you
cannot
ask
questions.
If
you
don't
know
what
do
you
want
to
ask
about
right?
So
where
do
I
start?
And
where
do
I
started
so
broad
right?
It's
like
somebody
might
want
to
teach
you
html
in
the
context
of
I
don't
know
a
web
app,
and
that
goes
way
too
far.
B
A
A
What
is
it
this
is
a
video
blog
from
paul,
roger,
laura
roaches,
and
I
can't
remember
name
one
second,
one
second
julie
jobson,
so
they
they
always
have
a
specific
scenario
where
they
talk
about
together
on
making
it
happen
and
how
what
are
the
options
and
configurations
and
all
of
that,
it's
a
recurrent
series
from
within
the
laura
rogers
youtube
channel.
So
and
this
time
it
was
around
powerapps
export
to
csv
so
using
a
flow.
So
how
can
I
actually
make
that
happen?
A
B
B
A
B
A
B
A
A
A
D
A
A
But
it's
it's!
Well,
it's
a
good
example.
I
I
go
out
with
the
dogs
every
single
morning,
but
multiple
times
in
a
day
anyway,
because
you
have
to
we
have
responsible
dog
owner.
You
need
to
do
that
regardless
of
the
weather.
So
it
doesn't
matter
if
it's
minus
30
celsius
or
minus
30,
fahrenheit
or
plus
30.
D
A
A
Cool,
but
I
guess
that's
it.
Thank
you
gavin
on
on.
Thank
you
for
that
one
for
the
interview
and
discussions
for
this
week
and
or
for
all
of
the
other
people
who
are
listening
and
writing
and
creating
content
in
the
microsoft
365
space.
Please
use
hashtag
pmp
weekly,
so
we
notice
what
you're
creating
and
we
can
promote
them
within
these
calls,
as
well
and
throughout
the
week.
So
of
course
we're
following
up
on
what's
happening
within
the
hashtags
in
social
media.
A
But
thank
you
everybody
for
your
awesome
work
within
the
past
week
and
coming
back
on
the
reminder
we
had.
We
did
have
an
action
if
you
would
feel
that
it
would
be
worthwhile
that
we
would
have
some
sort
of
a
cli
or
auto
generating
of
the
code,
for
example,
for
microsoft
teams,
applications
sharepoint
framework
application
in
the
same
way
as
what
power
apps
did.
A
B
B
B
A
Yes,
that's
actually
really
good,
so
if
I
you
would
you'd
be
interested
on
writing,
maybe
powerapps
components
with
sharepoint
framework
or
similar
separate
sharepoint
framework
style
way
for
your
powerapps
in
your
tenant.
So
that
would
be
interesting
to
understand
as
well.
There's
a
interesting
set
of
discussions
internally,
microsoft
related
on
options
where
we
might
be
investing
in
future,
but
thank
you.
Everybody
for
watching
have
a
great
rest
of
the
week
stay
healthy
into
your
life.
What
else?