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From YouTube: Microsoft 365 PnP Weekly – Episode 125
Description
In this installment of the weekly discussion revolving around the latest news and topics on Microsoft 365, hosts – Vesa Juvonen (Microsoft) | @vesajuvonen, Waldek Mastykarz (Microsoft) | @waldekm are joined by Business Applications MVP, co-founder and Technical Evangelist at SharePoint ISV Lightning Tools Sandy Ussia |@SandyU. Topics discussed in this session include: The appeal of Power Apps and Power Automate, whether or not Power Apps is the epitome or fulfillment of “Good-enough IT”, Sandy 2.0, and Lightning Tools’ business in COVID times. Microsoft and the Community delivered 22 articles in this last week. This session was recorded on Monday, May 3, 2021.
References:
• See the full blog post for this episode at https://aka.ms/M365DevBlog
• Download the podcast for this episode at http://pnpweekly.podbean.com.
• Learn more about the Microsoft 365 Patterns and Practices community at: http://aka.ms/m365pnp
• Visit the Microsoft 365 Patterns and Practices community YouTube channel: https://aka.ms/m365pnp-videos
A
A
B
A
C
Yeah
sure
so
I'm
sandy
ucia,
I'm
currently
in
northern
california,
where
I've
been
during
the
pandemic,
but
normally
travel
around
originally
from
pittsburgh.
Pennsylvania
and
I
am
technical
evangelist
for
lightning
tools,
which
is
a
sharepoint
isv
based
in
the
uk
and
also
co-founder
with
brett
lonsdale
of
enlightening,
which
is
a
sister
company
to
lightning
tools,
and
we
do
coaching
around
power
platform
and
other
microsoft.
365
platforms,
I'm
business
applications
mvp
so
focused
in
powerapps
and
power
automate
mainly
and
co-host.
The
flow
pro
show
with
daniel
laskovitz.
C
C
B
C
Yeah
so
so
then
I
majored
in
that
in
at
college.
No,
actually
I
didn't
in
undergrad
I
majored
in
german
and
finance,
but
then
I
got
my
masters
in
computer
information
systems
as
it
was
then
called,
and
I
don't
know
what
it's
called
now
actually
and
then
I
went
to
work
in
my
I
taught
computer
classes,
programming
and
so
on
back
in
the
early
80s,
and
so
that
was
basic
and
cobalt
and
what
was
the
one
that
started
with
a
p.
A
A
C
B
C
Actually
so
in
2007
we
brought
sharepoint
in
because
I
saw
it
at
a
conference
and
I
thought
oh,
that
would
be
really
helpful,
and
so
then
I
I
often
say
I
learned
everything
I
know
about
sharepoint
from
twitter
because
I
just
started
following
people
and
just
learning
that
way
and
started
going
to
conferences
and
got
involved
in
the
community,
so
that
was
yeah.
However
many
years
ago
that
is
now
13,
13
15..
A
C
C
A
C
A
Yeah
now,
actually
on
that
one,
I'm
just
gonna
jump
on
and
directly
on
the
power
automatic
power
app,
so
you've
been
actually
starting.
Like
you
said,
you
started
speaking
on
power,
automate
and
power
apps
and
then
the
power
platform
immediately
when
you
saw
them,
is
it
actually
easier
to
jump
on
a
new
product?
A
C
Oh
well,
that
I
would
say
that's
easy
yeah,
that's
just
because
I
just
thought
they
seemed
really
cool,
like
a
really
great
potential
of
being
able
to
empower.
I
I
don't
necessarily
like
citizen
developer,
but
power
users
or
people
like
me,
who
you
know
when
I
had
when
I
had
brought
sharepoint
into
my
business.
It
was
a
small
business
like
just
12
users
and
the
rest
of
everybody
was
all
of
our
plant
manufacturing
guys.
C
You
know
if
we,
if
I
could
have
easily
developed
a
power
app
that
our
qa
guy
could
take
out
in
the
plant
on
an
ipad
and
do
stuff.
You
know
right
there,
so
it's
that
kind
of
thing
that
got
me
interested
in
the
in
those
applications
to
start
with,
but
it's
true
that
when
there
wasn't
any
community
yet
at
that
point
or
no
documentation,
I
feel
like
it
was
sort
of
like
old
sharepoint.
A
B
C
C
C
A
Yeah,
it
wasn't
necessarily
the
best
best
possible
tools
and
then,
whatever
reasons
we
decided
not
to
invest
on
that
one
anymore
and
because
to
be
fair,
I
think
the
power
platform
anyway,
is
the
better
chosen
path
for
for
all
of
this
and
and
being
able
to
build
creative
cloud
applications
directly
in
the
cloud
is
actu.
It's
actually
really
really
cool.
So
just
by
drawing
and
doing
stuff
right.
C
A
B
A
A
What
I
mean
with
good
enough,
it
is,
is
that
basically
people
don't
need
to
focus
anymore
on
the
pixel,
precise
layouts,
but
people
are
more
kind
of
moving
towards
the
direction
where,
as
long
as
it
does
its
job,
it's
good
enough.
So
it's
good
enough.
I
t
it
doesn't
have
to
be
the
the
super
possible
polished,
high
quality
thingy,
which
I'm
not
saying
that
power
apps
wouldn't
be,
but
again
it's
a
different
experience
than
it
is
actually
pixel
precise,
drawing.
C
C
That
you
can
do
it,
then
you
can
go
back
later
and
fix
things,
although
maybe
that
never
really
happens,
but
but
at
least
yeah.
I
think
the
the
simpler
things
can
be
the
better
or
the
the
less
the
better
I
was
just
I
don't
know
if
this
is
relevant,
but
I
was
just
reading
an
article
on
the
weekend
where
they
were
saying
how
they're
doing
they've
done
a
study
about
how
human
brains
tend
toward
solving
a
problem
by
adding
things
rather
than
taking
things
away.
B
C
B
A
C
C
Sure
sure
yeah,
that's
that's
true!
That
does
really
tie
in.
So
maybe
that's
why
the
article
hit
home
with
me
yeah.
So
I
guess
it's
almost
six
years
ago
now
my
husband
and
I
sold
our
house
and
sold
all
of
our
stuff
gave
away
most
of
it
and
so
just
started
traveling.
We
just
each
carry
a
carry-on
bag
in
our
laptop
bag
and
just
stay
in
airbnbs
and
things
like
that,
and
so
just
not
having
stuff
to
worry
about.
C
C
People
and
you
know
just
houses,
full,
a
house
full
of
furniture
and
stuff
like
that,
I
don't
feel
like
we
were
ever
all
that
acquisitive
like
we
didn't,
have
a
huge
amount
of
junk
compared
to
a
lot
of
people
frankly,
but
but
still
it
was
tough
to
always
be
thinking
about
you
have
to
clean
it.
You
have
to
take
care
of
it.
You
know
it's,
you
have
to
always
think
you
know.
What's
going
on
with
your
house
and
things
like
that,
but
not
having
any
of
that
is
is
really
freeing.
C
A
C
That
was
what
I
was
going
to
do
for
my
career,
then
sandy
2.0
so
to
speak,
and
so
I
just
started
looking
around,
for
I
was
thinking
freelance
or
something
like
that.
But
then
I
got
hooked
up
with
lightning
tools
and
started
doing
tech
support
is
what
I
started
out
at
and
and
that
really
worked
out.
Well,
so
I've
been
with
lightning
tools
for
nine,
some
nine
and
some
years
now.
A
C
B
C
A
C
C
C
Well,
there's
certainly
lots
of
work
so
so
yeah,
I
would
say
yeah
probably
busier
than
pre
pandemic.
I
don't
know
if
it's
necessarily
to
do
with
the
pandemic,
but
maybe
because
you
know
more
people
are
working
from
home.
So
as
far
as
lightning
tools
goes,
our
tools
are
have
been
in
pretty
high
demand
during
this
past
year,
so
so
yeah
as
a
business
yeah,
that's
been
really
kind
of
picked
up
or
you
know,
or
not
gone
down,
at
least
during
the
pandemic.
A
A
Shows,
okay
cool,
so
yes,
but
but
they
said
that
actually
during
pandemic
and
the
demand
of
the
of
lightning
tools
as
a
partner
offerings
have
increased,
is
it?
Where
is
the
the?
Can
you
share?
Where
is
the
growth
happening
so
for
any
other
partner
who
would
be
like
wandering
on
on
their
opportunities.
C
Is
our
permissions
management
tool
deliver
point,
because
I
think
that
also
has
to
do
with
people
working
from
home
and
maybe
organizations
being
surprised
at
what
people
actually
have
access
to
or
don't
have
access
to,
and
they
can.
They
can
learn
about
that
with
deliver
point
and
do
something
about
it.
A
C
C
Yeah
except
I
accept,
I
have
accumulated
things
now.
You
know
when
we
go
back
on
the
road
we're
going
to
have
to
re-winnow,
because
now
I've
got
like
a
cupboard
full
of
spices
and
more
more
a
little
some
more
gear
that
I'll
just
have
to
leave
with
my
daughter,
then
she'll
have
to
move
it
around
or
I'll
get
rid
of
it.
I
don't
know
it
depends.
Yeah
we've
got
a
couple
months
to
figure
it
out.
B
C
But
that's
yeah
I
mean
often,
but
then
we
don't
have
a
plan
for
you
know
after
august,
really
we
don't
have
a
affirmative.
I
haven't
booked
anything
actually.
Yet
we
have
a
general
plan,
so
that's
kind
of
how
we've
been
doing
it
as
we
lay
out
sort
of
a
general
plan.
But
then
we
don't
usually
book
until
we
need
to-
or
you
know
so
usually
we
book
just
one
way
tickets
to
some
place
and
then
we
decide
later
what
we're
gonna
do.
Next
after
that.
B
A
Yes,
so
it
is
end
of
the
month
or
it
was
the
end
of
the
month
last
week.
So
that's
when
we
always
release
what's
new
in
the
in
the
microsoft
teams,
and
sharepoint
and
teams
had
a
lot
of
lot
of
new
stuff
available
and
one
thing
what
I
would
so.
The
balls
in
teams
was
kind
of
interesting.
Are
we
actually
providing
this?
Apparently,
we
are
so
but
of
course,
there's
partner
solutions
on
that
one.
We
also
had
an
interesting
discussion
before
status.
A
A
Yep,
I
can
imagine
yeah
all
this
is
getting
so
much
better
and
and
all
of
the
video
broadcasting
overlaying
on
the
video
and
everything
else.
There's
a
lot
of
lot
of
great
innovation
in
here,
so
really
really
cool
stuff.
Now
one
thing
to
be
aware:
skype
for
business
retires
on
july,
31st
and
2021.
So
I'm
not
going
to
deep
dive
on
what
it
actually
means.
But
it's
good
to
be
aware
of
that.
If
you
are
still
using
for
business
online,
you
probably
shouldn't
sharepoint
roadmap
bit
stop
april
2021.
A
There
was
a
nice
podcast,
together
with
nicole
woon
and
eagle,
has
been
really
working
on
the
site
templates.
The
new
modern
site
templates,
which
are
basically
based
on
the
sharepoint
lookbook
model,
but
now
they're
getting
part
of
them
are
getting
adapted
in
the
product,
more
natively,
which
is
kind
of
cool.
It's
actually
kind
of
cool
story
related
on
having
something
external
and
then
it's
getting
adapted
in
the
product
because
it's
proven
to
be
so
successful.
A
So
but
of
course,
site
templates
are
successful,
but
that's
the
new
way
of
exposing
them
and
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
other
new
stuff
in
the
microsoft
teams.
One
drive
in
sharepoint
power,
bi
integration.
This
one
is
really
cool
as
well.
So
steve
steve
from
my
team
has
been
working
on
this
one,
so
you
can
actually
create
from
any
sharepoint
list
a
power
bi
really
really
easily.
It's
just
basically
open
the
data
in
power
bi
and
both
it.
It
generates
all
of
the
example
data.
So.
A
B
A
A
Finally,
we
did
have
a
private
preview
for
this
one
of
a
few
weeks,
and
now
it's
actually
available
and
and
funny
enough
by
an
accident
kind
of
we
did
record
in
the
latest
versions
of
the
112
one
in
the
previous
community
call.
So
it
was
kind
of
convenient
to
put
it
in
here
as
well,
so
kind
of
excellent,
not
really
but
kind
of
anyway.
So
now,
on
the
graph
on
the
developer
side
as
well,
learn
how
to
develop
apps
for
microsoft,
craft
toolkits,
while
the
cube
in
in
touch
you've
been
involved
in
this.
B
Correct
so
this
is
new
learning
path
that
explains
to
you.
How
can
you
learn
microsoft,
graph
toolkit,
which
is
a
really
cool
set
of
controls
that
you
can
use
inside
a
web
app
or
any
kind
of
app
that
is
based
on
web
tech
right?
So,
if
you
build
a
desktop
in
electron,
that
also
works
right,
and
it's
basically
like
allows
you
to
really
easily
build,
build
an
app
connected
to
m365
and
microsoft
graph.
So
definitely
I
would
encourage
you
if
you're
building
apps
connected
to
microsoft,
365.
A
And
I
think
the
video
is
icon
yeah
like
explaining
what
this
is
all
about
and
and
kind
of
getting
you
excited
about
that
opportunity
so
correct.
Now,
on
the
microsoft
graph,
mailbag
create
engaging
app
with
microsoft
teams,
activity
feed
api
so
really
focusing
on
the
microsoft
teams.
Graph
api
for
the
activity
feeds.
A
A
Okay,
it's
only
you
and,
and
then
people
mention
the
whole
channel,
and
that
then
generates
the
notification
and
then
yeah.
It's
really
hard
to
follow
up
on
those
updates
organization
are
theming,
so
this
is
from
the
microsoft
365
blog.
So
there's
a
additional
capabilities
for
the
organizational
teaming
in
microsoft.
365
admin
center
really
impacting
the
suit
navigation,
which
is
the
one
in
top,
and
then
additional
settings
over
there
good
to
see
that
we're
investing
here
as
well,
how
to
set
up
a
tailwind
css
for
spfx
project.
A
Now
we're
jumping
to
the
bmp
community
block
in
the
tech
community-
and
this
is
from
ari
and
really
working,
focusing
on
the
tailwind
css
together
with
spfx
so
getting
started.
What
does
it
mean
how
to
get
started
and
and
what
well,
how
does
it
look
in
practice
and
the
table?
Can
you
waldek
explain
what
is
a
tailwind?
What's
the
value
out
of
tail
and
css.
B
A
A
A
Power
platform:
ms
from
goose
quiz,
with
a
dynamic
leaderboard
created
using
power,
automate
an
http
trigger
by
damien
burt,
building
a
a
using
that
low
code,
automation,
tooling
and
combining
microsoft
forms
and
then
poor,
automates
and
and
basically
collecting
the
data.
And
where
are
we
storing
the
data
either
in
and
then.
A
Of
you
guys
have
done
absolutely
absolutely
but
really
cool
setup
for
sure
and
then
how
to
get
source
code
files
in
powerapps
canvas
apps
from
lewis,
freeze,
so
really
storing
the
source
code
of
the
canvas
application
and
what
does
it
actually
contain?
Where
is
it
and
all
of
that
stuff?
So
deep
dives
on
that
cli
from
microsoft,
365
version
3.9
faldik,
you
can
actually
explain
what
this
is
all
about.
B
B
A
Makes
sense
makes
sense,
cool,
moving
on
on
journey
and
power
of
virtual
agent,
both
sitting
out
of
office
from
vessel
opponents,
a
really
cool
story
as
well.
So
really,
my
power
virtual
agents
is
the
easiest
way
to
build
automation
or
the
bots
and
then
then,
basically
doing
the
out
of
office
commands
using
that
so
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
actual
screenshots,
but
basically
then
adding
that
out
of
office
in
here
and
that's
actually
what
I
was
looking
for.
A
It's
intense
office
head
and
developer
community
had
a
march
2021
update,
so
basically
what's
happening
there.
The
latest
updates
and
the
on
the
sample
side
on
the
office
at
inside
of
the
house
so
really
cool
good
summary
on
that
one
as
well
and
who
contributed
martin
von
stam
has
been
actively
helping
david
chestnut
on
running
this
program
as
well.
Now,
if
you're
interested
about
contributing
and
office
settings
on
the
this
is
the
location.
A
So
there
is
a
separate
repo,
open
source
samples
available
for
that
as
well
themes
and
adoption
ideas
transfer
your
group
chat
emails
to
teams
with
power
automate
so
transfer.
Your
group
chat
emails
to
teams
with
power
automate,
so
basically
group
chat
copying
that
to
be
teams
discussion
rather
than
having
it
in
the
email
makes
perfect
sense.
Actually,
this
is
really
cool.
This
is
pretty
cool
and
from
day
man
as
well,
so
and
there's
even
a
video,
so,
oh,
really
cool
stuff.
A
What
else
circuit
had
a
spfx
local
check
nice
option
to
check
your
localization
consistency
across
sharepoint
frame
resolution?
He
demoed
this
in
community
call
actually
last
week
and
it
is
really
really
really
cool,
so
it
basically
double
checks
from
the
source
code.
If
you're
missing
any
of
the
labels
for
other
other
languages,
it
will
then
tell
you
that
clearly
and
if
you
rename
something
or
had
a
typo,
it's
going
to
tell
you
that
as
well,
so
really
really
cool
stuff.
A
A
Yeah,
absolutely
absolutely
andrew
cornell
had
a
summary
of
that
now.
Andrew
cuddle,
monday
mornings
mornings
it's
not
morning.
It's
in
sharepoint
framework,
112
summary
on.
What's
the
latest
on
on
that
one,
as
we
release
stuff
from
microsoft,
then
asa
always
comments.
He
is
opinions
and
his
input
related
on
the
on
the
thinking,
and
this
is
actually
referencing.
A
A
A
A
Absolutely
and
then
we
had
few
videos
so
april
dunnon
had
a
power
platform
rewind
april
2021,
and
these
are
really
good
and
the
cool
thing
about
april.
Video
of
editing
is
also
that
she's
splitting
everything
in
the
announcement,
so
you
can
actually
easily
find
what's
relevant
and
I
think
we
have
the
structure
here
as
well.
Yes,
we
do
so
there's
a
table
of
contents,
we're
going
to
jump
on
the
exact
topic.
We
should
probably
start
doing
the
same.
C
A
The
way
in
the
the
piezos
techniques,
paulo,
had
a
new
video
related
on
managing
sbo
data
with
microsoft,
graph
sdk,
so
he's
on
episode
152.
So
we
need
to
actually
do
a
few
more
as
his
on
summer
vacation.
So
we
need
to
catch
up
we're
in
125
right
now,
sandy
you
are
running
the
show
with
flow
pro
together
with.
A
C
Yeah,
that's
just
one
of
our
featured
channels.
It's
still
a
featured
channel
because
he's
still
got
a
lot
of
power
automate
stuff
on
his
channel,
but
but
yeah
we
it's
a
mostly
monthly
webcast
and
we
usually
have
some
guests
from
microsoft,
just
using
whatever
connections
we
have
and
then
and
then
do
sort
of
the
same
thing.
You're
doing
run
through
the
articles
and
community
contributions
having
to
do
with
power
automate.
We
did
not
change
the
name
of
our
show
when
this,
when
the
tool
changed.
A
C
A
A
Cool
then,
on
the
recording
365
we
had
azure
cloud.
Shell
is
now
available
in
microsoft,
365.
So,
basically
you
can
easily
fire
and
let
me
actually
zoom
in
you-
can
fire
the
the
azure
cloud
from
there
and
that's
actually
really
really
cool
because
isn't
cli
for
m365
part
of
azure
cloud
shell
as
well.
B
A
A
B
Title
says
it
all
like
bulk,
create
imagine,
and
you
have
a
bunch
of
tasks
to
create,
and
the
last
thing
you
want
to
do
is
get
clicking
in
planner
right.
So
how
can
you
really
easily
create
all
of
them
in
bulk,
with
the
caveat
that
you
want
to
assign
each
task
a
start
date
and
due
date
right?
So
I
have
a
recipe
in
a
way
how
you
can
go
about
it
in
power,
automate.
B
B
C
A
C
C
Yeah,
it's
a
microsoft
business
application
summit,
which
is
virtual
again
this
year
and
so
all
about
power
platforms,
so
there'll
be
a
keynote
by
james
phillips
as
usual,
and
then
lots
of
different
sessions
throughout
the
day.
All
on
various
power
platform
topics,
so
like
what's
new,
what's
coming
things
like
that,.
A
C
C
C
B
This
week,
yeah
absolutely
so,
I'm
working
on
a
new
sample
app
for
build,
I'm
going
to
show
some
new
stuff,
together
with
aicha
we're
doing
that
other
than
that
we
have
a
q,
a
few
outstanding
prs
for
cli,
so
I
will
try
to
get
through
that
asap
other
than
that.
I
don't
think
there
is
anything
else
planned.
I
have
tons
of
ideas
in
my
mind
so.
A
A
B
A
Yeah,
so
I'm
I'm
finalizing
my
build
session
and
the
demos
for
that
one.
Two
demos
recorded
already
today
and
two
to
go
and
then
trying
to
squeeze
it's
it's
a
massive,
really
difficult.
Of
course,
shorter
sessions
is
better
because
people
attention
span
is
getting
smaller
and
smaller,
but
then
trying
to
squeezing
cool
demos
like
four
cool
demos
and
a
presentation
to
30
minutes,
it's
just
impossible.
B
A
Your
darling,
yeah
yeah,
well,
there's
certain
things,
of
course,
as
we're
investing
globally
on
certain
areas.
We
just
need
to
cover
certain
topics
and
then
do
certain
demos,
because
then
there's
a
massive
team
behind
of
that
demo,
even
though
the
demo
might
be
super
short,
but
you
need
to
show
that
so
that
those
people
feel
appreciated
for
the
work,
what
they
do.
So
it's
really
really
hard
to
actually
balance
whether
we
actually
show
and
the
presentation
recording
is
tomorrow,
so
that
should
be
fine
and
then
rest
of
the
week.