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From YouTube: SharePoint Dev Weekly - Episode 6 - 21st of September 2018

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SharePoint Dev Weekly is a weekly video chat where Vesa and Waldek are talking about the latest news and topics around SharePoint dev area. In this episode, they were joined by Paolo Pialorsi (Piasys.com) and Erwin also did a cameo appearance on the background screen.

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This video was recorded on Thursday the 20th of September, 2018.

You can find more details on the weekly summary from SharePoint Dev blog from http://aka.ms/spdev-blog. More details on the SharePoint Dev community available from http://aka.ms/sppnp.

A

So welcome to this week's trip on dev weekly- and this is episode six, unless completely mistaken- and this is this time we have a visitor once again and this time it's Paulo PRC from where can keep Paulo do a quick interest or yourself thank.

B

You hello, everybody: yes, I'm Paulo, a member of the PNP team I come from Italy and I'm, a consultant working in a company of my own called pcs, calm, cool.

A

And, like said, Paulo has been working. We don't share my PMP stuff since early Dawn's of the PNP like actually from 2015 or so yes, totally yeah Mervin was the first external person jumping into the B&B boat, which then crew to be everything in SharePoint dev. So the PMP isn't anything special at PMP owns the ship on developer ecosystem. So, and why am I? Why am I even explaining this I don't know? Now it's a being insanely piece of e-commerce day on the engineering side.

A

I have slept that much I'm way too little, because sickness is coming on next week and we will have really cool stuff coming up. But this always last minute, like let's change that and let's take the demo and put it on this 10 on 10.

A

So it's been a pretty interesting exercise to make everything work, it's so stable and we're recording this. No worse that we still have stuff to do. Mine always happens like a.

C

C

On Wednesday.

A

Doing live stuff and it's not like different. The check deeper actually implements all of his demos by himself. That's not how it actually works.

A

He's a vice president: he doesn't have actually time on really writing the code. He could actually write the code he's pressingly, clever on I'm writing code as well, but obviously we need to dead captain and demos on keynote, hopefully crossing fingers that that will remain their keynotes are always pretty a big mess. It's not a mess, but it's it's nothing! Players with this thing when I get it polished and then it's done and it works, but it's been really interesting and obviously PMD guys have been helping me as well now.

A

Well like what you've been doing, it.

C

Yes, except that that gives me two hours left now.

C

Last week we published a rancor, an e-book around SPF X for admins, because we saw that there was a gap for admins, whereas from PNP we thought we talked a lot about def side of things, but then, once the devs build things, I have to be run in production and admins. We thought that they are left clueless about to what these things are, how they work and support, and so on. So we thought that so.

A

They mean that our documentation has gaps. What I mean.

C

Not anymore I.

B

C

B

You that you are one of the guys with bright the documentation.

C

So that was that, so that is out and alive, and we see quite a lot of attention for that which proves the need for that. Never everything is that I worked on and we launched it Jesse yesterday, which is on Wednesday I, created a new extension for a vs code that allows you to easily add info for tenant wide deployment of extensions. So that's a new feature available from SPF X 10.6, where you can have an extension deployed across all sides in tenant or all sides or lists that follow a template.

C

Yeah and the quirk is that when you create a project, yeoman will only give you that info for the first accession you add and then for additional ones. You have to create it by yourself. So I created a small extension that that you can enable envious code, and that will add all that info for you exactly in the right place. Informant yeah.

A

What I'm doing by the way right now is that I'm, adding a one new entry or.

C

A

Adding the one plug post related on this topic, yeah, that's what we cover just to pinpoint that yeah. It is actually nicely explaining what the tenant deployment is all about, and it is actually a massive deal. So we really want to make sure that people understand it's almost like the asset packaging which doesn't sound that mind-blowing when it came out in 1.4, and it took time for people to realize. Oh, my god, this is brilliant.

A

I can actually include everything inside of this BBK departments getting automatically serum, but it's a months and months for people to realize that I can do that. You don't have to worry about CDN.

C

Yeah yeah yeah and also for our debt. There are more things like. If you are an ISV, you don't need to repackage for every customer that all of that is already included, but these are additional scenarios that takes a while to click and then once you make make the connection, it's like. That's good, that's really really good yeah, then. So. The lesson that I worked on is some some improvements around upgrading SPF X projects using the CLI right. So in the offices five CLI we offer the ability to help.

C

You upgrade the project that you might create with one version of SPF x2 to another, and now you know adays, we support a whole range from version 1.0, all the way up to 1.6 through the whole range.

C

So we are improving that we're getting some some some usage and feedback and we're working on that trying to smooth out the experience and basically offer you a useful or help more helpful way to do it so that you can spend spend your time actually on the actual work and not worrying about the plumbing or the errors or which things to change and support. As well, because.

A

We're shipping way too often new versions of chiffons frameworks cute goodies right, so you need.

C

To upgrade, but it's it's, it's sometimes involves more stuff than them only already done packages right. So CLI explains all that gives you a report and also offers you a script. You run that and you're good to go in theory, yep yep.

A

Make sense now long talk with Moloch? What about you Apollo, but you've been doing on this way? Well,.

B

Of course, it has been a very busy week from an ignite perspective, because I've been working on the demos which will come out next week, as you said, but I also spent some time on a I think interesting customer project, which is focused on creating customer sites on the fly. Whenever you create a new item in a SharePoint list, we have a web book which will create a site for use in the provisioning engine.

B

The interesting part is that that project is a multi-tenant project, so I have to create a multi-tenant way book, so I was able to use, for example, the client state of the web book to keep track of the target tenant thing which I will have to create the staff, and it was quite an interesting scenario and solution which allowed me to use most of the capabilities of a PMP of the provisioning engine and also of the web books development in SharePoint yeah. Thank you. Thank you visit. Thank you for.

A

You basically answer the question already. The immediate question would have been hey, so why did she lose the whip hook rather than flow for activating this thing, just to be clear on that, you technically answer that, but not yeah.

B

Well, because the need was to have something which was multi-tenant first of all, so I I wanted to have just one deployment of the web book and not one slow for every single tenant. Moreover, there was another need. We had a need to support, even hundreds or thousands of items creating on drayton on the fly and I using a web book made us more happy.

B

Let me say than using a flow from a scalability perspective in even if flow under the cover uses books, if I'm not mistaken, and so that was the main reason, the multi-tenancy and the scaling requirements and.

A

Then on a web poof, you basically get the message in your drop it in the storage too, and then you have an ascent precisely.

B

Promoters, maybe four years. Yes,.

A

That's a classic scenario now on the destination on date, night preparation, so you've been working at get a bit ribbon. That's right, so making sure that we're super ready on the really cool new provisioning starts and automation and everything else within the BMP session. Everything couldn't make it this week so we'll see if we can actually book him for any of the future sessions now anyways. Let me actually get let's go under on a few slides who strikes.

A

Let's go for a few babies.

A

A

Beauty of working from home now a cat walked in the daughter's room, so might get interesting if the dog, that's that same thing as well. So now I'm sharing my screen. Can you see my screen? Yes, excellent, and let me slightly adjust these things here. We go so if the recording is catching up, we're using a preview version, a preview capability and teams at this point. Hopefully this will go to a producer. Last time when we moved the screen sharing, we actually there was a delay on the week episode.

A

Five I think don't tell the screen sharing actually anyway. Now the one thing what I want to quickly promote here is the article run, consistently extend SharePoint way to SharePoint framework, and this is really something which went live on Monday today's Tuesday Tuesday Tuesday. This way, yes- and this is a really a run- an extension story on top of the tenant white tenant point deployment of Chevron primary extension, so really clarifying the value of that functionality by showing a real life scenario. So not just in pointing that hey, you can be identified.

A

The deployment of extensions, which is like okay, but what's the value out of it? Why is it interesting, which is really really important for anybody who's, making any presentation? So we we basically built or waldek builds, be precise, I didn't actually built this I'm just doing live demos on it, generic hooter, which can be fully configured, use it using this properties. So you can configure that in in a centralized location in the App, Catalog site collection and then you're able to push that to be available across all of the sites.

A

So let me actually get in here and let me zoom in if you can actually get that visible, so it is acts be visible in all of the sites based on that configuration from a single location. The beauty of this one really is that you'd have one location to associate control, configure maintenance and everything else. How that extension is visible and, and also this particular extension, was designed well to be fair, I designed that right quality, so some credits are.

C

A

So I designed which get on the overall implementation, but it's designed to be a generic one, so you can actually change which icons with text and everything else just by overriding the properties of that solution. So technically, if you just want to have a few buttons and a text in the in the footer of your page, well, there's the solution. The only thing is that this is open source solution. If you need to have somebody to maintain and support that, and you need to figure out how do we want to do that?

A

If you are a partner download the code, read package step and have fun, so that's how open source works now? Okay, other stuff lets me get in here, so this one was interesting in the concept or in the context of shipment framework extensions as well.

A

So we have the tenant my deployment support for extensions, but this one this one is more around hey what, if I want explicitly enable an extension on an existing site without the requirement of adding the solution to the site level, so I want to remotely control on which sites the extension is actually visible and and what's interesting around this one. So this is it's showing the SharePoint season, so what if you're using out-of-the-box season a version of it? So that's what a lot of actually code here and quickly looking it's checking application IDs.

A

It is actually using app configuration for getting air connecting in it could have actually used connection user identity and then there is an example on the template. Partial uses, which is actually that's credential, so doesn't need it either. It's a one line and a two line, so basically two lists of how it's written like the same thing happened, which is actually kind of interesting. Well,.

C

It proves the point right that, if you want simplicity- yes BMP sure absolutely it allows you to focus on the on the work and not plumbing.

A

And that's why, and why is that? Why is the MP actually giving you that's, is the community is contributing and extracting the complexity away? This.

C

So that you don't need you or yeah.

A

So, together with community with, there are abstractions or functionalities here, but it is actually insane when I think about its two lines of code. One line of connecting and the second line to then add the right extension to decide to light it up. That's it, okay to go and.

B

If you want, you can even upload the package using BMP using, for example, the provisioning engine. You can just add the ESB pkg file and activate the extensions.

A

And to be fair, if you're super precise, there is also BMP season, which would make actually the life much much much easier than this one again I think it shows nicely the the value of the BMP work and open source for what we do, because we're simplifying things as much as possible, and that's really the intention if, if somebody feels that BMP is making things more complex, please let us know- and we want to fix that.

A

That's not our intention, a BMP, meaning the guidance coming from engineering it together with a community towards SharePoint depths enemy, the community SPF X generator. So let's talk about this. One did information this one already last week we.

C

Have the lodger, but it's good to reiterate, because it's being continuously plea vault as well so I think it's good to say really right. That I think.

A

Last week, correct me if I'm wrong Wallach, we talked about the fact that is released, but Stefan had not written this article yet. So this is point of view on what does it actually mean and ideas, and so Stefan from Austria who's, an MEP, but the good article around?

A

How does it work an idea behind of the things going more detailed on on the technical insides of the thing, and also explaining the kind of division? How stuff should be extended within this photo? If this is an open-source project, this one pluck and play intentionally at BMP as in another.

C

A

It good good, really great article from Stefan around how things are plan to involved in the future. So this is an early start. The BMPs VFX generator was the most week ago so and we're actually seeing quite a lot we're seeing already usage, which is great and feedback, but we'll see even more data on future and one of the things what we were having already our discussions. We talked about this one last week as well, is to get Alex's alex view generator stuff inside of the of the BMP SP apex generator.

A

So again, alex has added a nice article related on how to use react, components inside of the DHS solution, and then how do you actually use those in the generator and how do I get started on things now right after ignites, we will serious the start, working together with Stefan and Alex to get stuff merged. Ignite is right now the number one priority of everybody, basically, which is understandable, because we want to have the best night ever that was say a sponsored by Microsoft and.

A

Moving on on topics, so this one was interesting so, and this is from a public guy, hop hop, fly up, fly guys, so I can't remember the person's name. So let me scroll down on.

B

The floor rich.

A

Rich, so iris has been noted here a few times as well, and but now the title is create a modern team side using Skype on site templates and which is highly confusing title to be fair. Definitely because, from a terminology perspective, the site template refers to the classic STP file or the WSB files which we introduced in SharePoint 2010 to be used as a site temple. It's not now to be fair. For me in choosing perspective this tillis item, it is a template.

A

Yeah, there's the template of creating the sign now in the engineering I think it was when was I. He takes quite a few months ago and all his practice on the background fits good a few months ago. Wait a minute. Let's say a year ago we were having a long debate on what are we gonna call site design some side scripts, because are we going to call them site templates?

A

But then, if we called inside templates, it's going to be highly confusing, because it's referring to the old side templates and those old side templates are actually evil. They will bite you. They they they're, evil. Trust me I know.

A

That's what you get when you have way too many animals in your home when you're, working and I need to have a discussion with wife.

A

So so this one actually is around: how do we create a modern theme? How do we create a site, design and a side script, and how do we then up to a create a site where we then also apply a custom theme and customizations inside of that sign? So it is around side scripts inside designs, I, even though the title is slightly confusing, so to say from a user perspective, it is a site template, but yeah.

A

So now quickly on the next one, Chris O'brien, a really classic urban guy and one of the things for to see more and more within SharePoint. Online, especially, is that obviously you Sasha Asher is the engine for us to extend the capabilities of shipment and as your functions, absolutely quite usable as scenario or but quite often used.

A

So from the shipment framework, you call a natural function and which will do something on a back burner, jump back and now with 1.6 who you can securely call that now to perform without your functions and actually anything which is running and measure as a website, because the functions are running as a website. In the background is the fact that they are not warmed up by default at their poll, which means well.

C

It depends the way the.

A

C

You run them right because you can't have them warm, but then you're going to pay all the time. It's yes.

A

Because they're, basically, all the time waiting to serve the requests so Texas, but now, if you have a let's say, 10 20 50 times in a day, we requested that your function or 200 times, probably don't want to have it's warmed up 24/7, because the costs will be much more. But then, whenever the first request is coming in, it means that the application pool has to stop up and start serving the content and that's an delay. That could be a few seconds right. Well, that depends mmm cinnamon, and this one.

A

Basically, we saw a prime story on how to build an a function which escapes the other functions, warm by being anything so kind of an interesting story to be fair and test. A a from a full, transparent perspective. In sharepoint conferences like us, in May I had a section in a keynote researcher on the dev platform and we were showing what was it. We were showing a lead, swift, port, yet correct so in the teens, also in the themes tab and which was then calling a natural function.

A

Well, the wait part was calling another function, get the information and printed that nicely funny enough. We were experiencing the exactly the same issue. We solved that by having a one person in a front row in.

A

Making sure that the basis form as your function in this form, whenever I actually don't like them on stage. So that's one way of the allocating as well right when.

B

You have a team, you can do that, but.

A

I think that's even more expensive than keeping.

C

A

You don't have good friends in the audience to.

C

Imagine right imagine that in a place in the office where you have had the coffee, you have a button that every time somebody takes a coffee that would warm up the function.

B

It's a real example of IOT.

A

There's one of those small buttons: it's a flip IT. Well, what's that, is it sleep? What's the, but this multiple dance we have made other things which are then bluetooth, and then they do HTTP requests. That's brilliant idea! Actually, yeah keep my keep I, feel yeah, okay, few more the true and so and recordable had a a nice simple another post. But it's simple on how to use p.m.

A

PJs from noches for uploading, large files so enter is one of you guys who leading the work in the PM PJs together with Patrick reporters from Microsoft and the PM PJs abstraction layer for wrist API, so fluent api on Doublemint. This is quite nice, so enter is building a lot of stuff using no chains.

A

So that's why this is basically probably built this for some of his customers most partly and but it shows the simplicity of using also BMP chase and how you can actually just a chunk and individual, a large file to multiple pieces and then one by one get it actually. On the other side, it's a simple piece of code, but still really nice to see that that's powerful. More possible as well to be fair.

A

This is a noches implementation, so if you would be in Windows platform, if you want to use PowerShell or C sharp, you could potentially do accept the saying using the same API nice. But the implementation is like a different and.

C

You could even run this built on Windows do because.

A

You can run on Windows absolutely and if.

C

You are a developer.

A

On the ship on framework, you have no chance running, so that's it problem solved. There you go now drop Nick core is still pretty cool, so.

A

Slightly outside of the depth discussion so, but from duck Clint around, how would I hide the flow button from list? Actually, this shows again the the simplicity of things to be fair. There's a a to implementations of this say: there's the out-of-the-box one, which is SPO site.

A

How do I action and then I will basically set on the site, collection level, Sabol flows, and that will then basically get rid of the the button inside of the lists, and there is also a EMP version of this one because it doesn't really matter if I using SVA official there are about 60 or one saw the BMP upon which are common less.

A

They typically do both support to both of things make sure these few times zero later they will be combined, hopefully open source than everything else, we're working in Microsoft side and on the one channel after that, that's a different discussion, but anyway, why would you do this.

B

But, for example, if you don't want to have users to create custom flows or start flows on a list just for specific lists or.

A

You're using a slight different, whatever is be so.

C

So, even if you would turn off here, what would be the cases they went to float, Michael calm and create a new flow in there? Would it be able to do it or not? I.

A

Don't know most likely it's hidden from here and it's available from there I.

B

Think you just hired.

A

B

A

Yeah, it's a button function, so it's a setting or cycle get rid of that with.

B

Very end users- maybe sometimes it's enough, even the.

A

B

A

That's actually pointed quite often when you have that discussion with a let's say the IT managers, the 90 directors or the business decision-makers they're concerned about all these things, because if the flow button exists there, the ink users might ask questions and that can increase the support costs so having the functionalities in a magical way introduced for the infusers will reduce the overall cost and change management costs and yeah.

C

And also the fact that if there is flowed and somebody might create flow and if the company doesn't have the governors were unclosed, then you might have things like data loss and all that, because the data will be shared with external services. There is no one to manage that true.

A

True, absolutely fair point: what I'm trying to do at the same time let people go to the final size they actually feedback on that from the logo. The Irving is my back is.

A

So the last one from Marc they are D Anderson mark Mark's is working quite a lot on history, and this is this episode few times sort of SharePoint F weekly episode few times this is actually good note or promotion as well. So there is now a default site default time zone available to be set for that for the sites which are current created. So this is really cool.

A

This is going to help on the side, designs and side scripts functionality as well so really great, and it was one of the really really high asks things to actually make happen, so you can actually know how to make that happen. So really really cool and more start from this kind of centralized control will be definitely announced to midnight next week, but I think that's it for the individual topics. Let me sum stop sharing this.

C

A

That's good, the recording is yeah, looks.

B

A

Anyway, so closing words, any good jokes.

A

Ignite next week, what are you waiting for the hallway? What's this thing for you for the next week, what I, wherever well.

B

From my perspective, of course, I'm looking forward to meeting a lot of people at the Feebles because I'll be there wanting to meet people and as discussion and share content and infos and, moreover, from an ignite perspective. I'm really looking forward to seeing the new and the coming features in SharePoint Online, especially from a developer perspective, because as a developer. But the only thing that really matter. For me.

A

And well that you won't be there. Unfortunately,.

C

I won't be there, no, no! No so will we have a rank or accrued that will be there but I'll, be there myself. I will support you virtually I'm, not sure I will be be watching everything that is stream, because there will be a lot. Stranger yep everything is live.

A

Streams which is great but.

C

Yeah I will definitely keep an eye out on anything interesting. That applies to our work and, if there's anything that could either change the way we do things or offer new areas to which we could expand.

A

That's actually a great great closing your notes from this one. So thank you. Everybody for watching demos, episode, 6 and we'll come up with a new one, actually, the week after ignite, so we're testing the schedule after ignite or clip on recording on Monday killing out Tuesday's scheduled as a week night week. We will not have a weekly episode. We do apologize, but right after date, night people have lots of cover because.

C

There will be already a lot of material available.

A

Exactly precisely Thank You Paolo Thank You Paolo for dropping by you guys, that's it for this one. So thank you.