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From YouTube: PnP Weekly - Episode 72 – 24th of February 2020
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PnP Weekly is a weekly video chat in which hosts - Vesa Juvonen (Microsoft), Waldek Mastykarz (Rencore) and typically a special guest from the SharePoint PnP Community, discuss the latest news and topics around SharePoint engineering and development.
In this episode, Vesa and Waldek are joined by Karoliina Kettukari – MVP Teams and Office 365 user adoption and change management consultant with Sulava in Helsinki, Finland. Their conversation focuses on the human side of technology deployments, not addressed by the mere roll-out/announcement of a new technology. It is clear, change impacts people throughout an entire organization - directly and more often indirectly. A large hurdle and risk to new technology adoption is the perception that this is an IT solution we now need to use as opposed to a tool we wanted and expected because it supports our ongoing business transformation. Three tips for driving successful (change management) adoption include: 1) securing internal management commitment, 2) understanding/communicating this is a continuous journey, and 3) focusing on the human aspects of successfully performing a function rather than focusing on learning a technology.
As always, if you need help on an issue, want to share a discovery, or just want to say: “Job well done”, please reach out to Vesa, to Waldek or to your PnP Community.
This session is also available as a podcast at https://spdevweekly.podbean.com.
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This video chat was recorded on Monday, February 24, 2020. A new episode is recorded every Monday, with few exceptions, and is made available for viewing/listening on Tuesday.
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A
B
A
Which,
which
is
which
was
immediate
follow-up
question?
What
does
that
mean
in
practice
with
those
who
change
management
is
super
important,
so
I
was
just
studying
actually
earlier
today,
a
meeting
with
one
of
the
account
managers
or
account
team
from
a
large
enterprise,
sorry
airline
company-
and
they
were
just
saying
that
there
as
an
example
that
ship
went
online
portals,
will
be
live
or
ready
to
go
in
about
2
in
July.
A
But
they
will
be
releasing
that
by
end
of
this
year
because
of
change
management
and
making
sure
that
everybody
is
up
to
date
and
and
learning
to
think
so.
Is
that
something
what
you
currently
not
see
with
other
customers
as
well?
So
can
you
explain
for
those
who
do
not
understand?
Why
would
they
wait
for
three
months
or
four
months
for
go
alive?
What
we
define.
A
C
Yeah,
that's
pretty
nice
to
hear
that
they
are
doing
it
because
actually
changed
management
and
communication
about
it
becoming
changed
start
as
soon
as
we
start
a
technical
project
and
at
the
moment
I
don't
see
that
much
happening
in
our
customers.
So
it's
actually
pretty
nice
to
hear
someone
is
really
doing
that.
Yes,.
A
C
And
basically,
what
I
do
with
customers
is?
We
apply
roadmaps,
we
plan
communication
plans,
we
do
training
plans,
video
coaching
plans,
works
of
plans
and
basically
we
are
doing
a
human
side
of
the
change.
So
before
the
technical
implementation
comes
to
place,
we
are
also
planning
how
to
work
is
going
to
change
and
what
kind
of
training
and
coaching
is
needed
for
that.
Yeah.
A
B
Whenever
you
come
up
with
something
new,
it
doesn't
fall
out
out
of
the
sky
right.
So
I
can
imagine
that
at
some
point
somebody
comes
up
with
an
idea:
people
we
need
to
change
the
way
we
work
and
then
you
reach
out
to
users
to
like,
let's
say,
you've
tried
to
find
advocates
for
the
internal
changed
ways.
B
We
drive
it
to
understand
their
needs,
how
their
work
to
understand,
how
that
would
fit,
and
then
I
assume
that
when
things
are,
let's
say,
code
done,
the
adoption
parts
are
done
and
you
getting
back
to
them
or
how
does
that
work?
How
does
that
group
get
then
pulls
back
into
you?
Okay,
now
we
have
something
that
you
can
experience
like.
C
C
Except,
like
the
mindset
that
to
James
in
people's
minds
because
technical
sense,
you
have
a
project,
it
starts
any
and
until
you
have
maybe
some
kind
of
support
met
us
after
that,
but
with
change
management.
It
never
ends
because
a
change
is
constant.
So
you
have
to
really
think
about
the
trainings
think
about
the
communication.
Think
about
developing
teamwork
all
the
time.
So,
for
example,
when
we
are
saying
thinking
about
change
management
roadmaps
with
clients,
it
should
be
for
a
year
or
two
years
and
not
like
a
three-month
project.
B
Right
and
I
guess
maybe
even
even
then,
as
you
said,
it's
never
done
because
in
a
year
time
well
the
world
doesn't
stay
still
like
the
things
will
change
things
will
evolve
and
you
will
be
yet
for
another
change
and
maybe
that
will
need
to
be
backed
up
by
tech.
But
maybe
not
maybe
you
have
everything
in
place.
You
just
need
to
make
better
use
of
the
assets
that
you
already
have
right.
Yes,.
C
A
Yeah
and
that
cont
really
comes
to
back
on
the
fact
that,
when
a
customer
makes
a
decision
to
move,
let's
say
to
8
Microsoft
teams
as
an
example,
the
collaboration
platform
will
be
changed
and
it's
not
like.
You
will
just
magically
lend
the
teams
to
everybody,
every
single
employee
and
then
magically.
They
were
using
that.
That's
not
how
it
works.
Yeah.
A
A
Responsibility
is
that
so,
if
you
think
about
let's
say
an
and
customer,
let's
say
a
leadership
team
makes
a
decision
to
move
Microsoft
teams.
Wouldn't
it
make
sense
as
part
of
that
decision.
They
always
consider
also
the
implications
of
the
change
management,
because
after
all,
they're
now
paying
for
the
new
service
as
well
like
euros
per
month,
and
then
they
want
to
engage.
They
want
to
make
sure
that
that
investment
actually
has
then
return
of
an
investment
yeah.
C
That's
also
a
very
interesting
thing
about
the
return
on
investment,
because
technically
you
pay
the
same
amount
of
money
for
the
licenses,
not
depending
how
much
you
use
it
and,
of
course,
the
IT
department.
The
finance
department
wants
to
cut
costs
and,
for
example,
if
you
can
utilize
themes
and
forms
and
Poros
made,
then
you
can
cut
off
some
extra
third
party
of
the
cases
you're,
maybe
in
court
licenses
and
of
course,
on
the
people
side,
you
can
be
more
effective,
more
productive.
C
We
have
this
all
of
these,
like
Forrester
studies
that
you
can
save
up
to
four
hours
per
village.
Yes,
bye-bye-bye
using
Microsoft
themes,
but
for
my
point
of
view,
in
the
end
of
the
day,
it's
not
like.
You
cannot
be
more
productive
all
the
time
and
if
I
save
four
hours,
what
I'm
going
to
do
with
the
four
hours
I
say.
A
B
So
the
one
that
that
I
wonder
about
is
that
and
I
guess
that
somebody
said
that
about
the
money
but
I
think
I
wondered
what
it
Twitter
sent
that
the
same
thing
applies
to
to
tech
right
when
people
used
to
work
in
in
given
way
right
and
they
used
to
work
like
that.
I
know
for
10
20
years,
and
now
they
get
all
this
tag
like
365
and
teams
and
all
that
and
it's
available
to
them,
and
they
still
do
not
use
it.
B
C
The
interesting
topic,
because
you
can
do
your
work
to
say
where
you
have
been
working
for
the
last
20
years
with
themes.
You
can
have
all
the
same
folder
structure
and
do
everything
as
you've
been
doing
before
and
then
it
I
think
it
might
feel
as
a
burden
at
that
point,
but
also
that's
the
pose
ability
to
reveal
to
old,
maybe
maybe
all
working
habits
and
ten
gets
to
develop.
2D
work
into
a
more
modern
ways.
Right.
B
Things
like,
though,
become
more
visible,
with
tech.
Like
imagine,
as
a
company,
you
had
the
culture
that
everybody
would
keep
think
things
close
to
their
chest.
They
wouldn't
share
now
when
you
make
teams
available
it's
empty
and
you
can
now
visibly
see
like
wow
it's
empty.
Why?
Well,
because
for
the
last
20
years
we
haven't
shared
anything,
we
just
would
talk
one
to
another
like
this
is
my
meeting.
We
have
a
meeting.
We
discussed
something
between
us
but
there's
no
public
record
of
anything
that
we
do
and
now
it's
visible
in
teams
it's
empty.
B
C
C
Because
I'm
very
fond
of
the
team's
being
for
teamwork
and
that's
why
I'm
also
pretty
little
little
skeptical
of
tech,
private
channels
because
I
I
know
there
are
use
cases
for
private
channels.
But
for
me
it's
like
a
small
step
backwards
to
tell
more
private,
more
more
more
old-fashioned
way
of
working
I.
B
Think
there
is
like,
depending
depending
to
which
level
of
the
company
you
talk
to
you
at
some
point,
I've
heard
there
is
this
notion
that
transparency
confuses
folks,
because
you
will
get
to
hear
about
what
is
in
progress,
new
ideas
and
then
it's
like
okay,
so
do
we
do
it
or
not?
No,
no!
We're
experimenting
with
that.
Okay
experience,
so
what
it
mean
do
I
tell
the
customers
or
not
like
no,
no
we're
not
changed
my
behavior
yet.
A
B
And
then,
and
then
it
seems
like
the
company
changes
the
culture
every
day.
It's
like
no,
no,
no,
no
like
we
are
going
this
way,
but
these
are
other
things
that
we
are
just
looking
at
right.
But
that,
like
understand,
and
to
be
able
to
separate,
let's
say
the
plant
course
on
which
you
fare
as
opposed
to
all
the
different
ideas
you
look
into
a
new
experiments
with
I
think
that
might
be
hard
for
everybody
who
is
not
involved,
let's
say
in
management
team.
Yes,.
A
Sure
but
then
again
said
you
might
have
a
private
team,
not
private
team
channel
for
that
stuff.
So
where
do
we
actually
go
to
limit
the
visibility
and
anyway,
coming
back
on
the
getting
the
files
on
the
teams
is
I?
Think
it's
obviously
from
a
company
and
enterprise
perspective,
it's
quite
critical
to
get
the
files,
the
teams
and
discussions
so
they're
in
a
cloud
so
they're
under
the
enterprise
umbrella
are
rather
than
in
somebody's
individual
device
and
then
what
happens
when
the
device
actually
disappears.
A
C
I
think
these
are
pretty
much
clear
things
for
the
offers
for
like
consultants,
but
these
are
the
teams
we
are
discussing
every
time
with
with
the
customer,
because
these
are
new
things
for
normal
employees,
who
has
just
like
open
teams
for
the
first
time.
So
it's
very
important
to
discuss
about
the
super
praised
basics
of
how
to
work
in
a
cloud
what's
office
365.
So.
A
C
It's
it's
interesting
things
I'ma
finish:
I'm
super
famous
I'm
super
interested
person,
but
actually
I've
noticed
that
being
in
conferences,
giving
presentations
conferences
except
one
thing,
I
enjoyed
most
it's
just
that
my
favorite
thing
to
learn
and
try
to
learn
so
I,
don't
know
it's
I
think
because
the
cloud
is
always
changing.
There
are
always
coming
new
things.
Teams,
and
always
every
single
company
tear
is
room
for
improvement
yeah
for
in
in
the
sense
of
teamwork.
So
it's
never
done.
It's
never
ready.
I!
Think.
A
B
C
B
C
The
frameworks
we
can
basically,
we
have
to
communicate
some
play.
We
have
changed
a
tenth.
We
have
similar
stuff
in
every
project,
but
every
company,
every
team
is
different
and
I
really
liked
working
with
the
customers
like
being
live
with
the
customers
and
the
feeling
of,
and
you
see
that
the
team
you
have
been
working
with
it's
evolving
and
like
really
changing
to
my
stay
work.
It's
it's
super
exciting.
For
me,.
A
Every
single
company
has
their
own
corporate
communications
and
how
they
behave,
how
they
communicate
at
the
ratio
between
white
color
and
blue
color
or
burgers.
It's
a
one
way
which
has
a
massive
impact
as
well.
So
if
how
many
factories
there
are?
Oh
well
or
not,
global
and
things
are
modeling
well
aspects.
B
It
sounds
cliche,
but
it's
really
it's
invaluable
right,
because
it's
like
at
the
end
of
the
day
you
build
something
based
on
your
idea
of
whatever
it
is
right.
They
people
have
problem,
and
you
want
to
address
that.
But
then
you
go
out
there
talk
to
them,
and
it's
like
I
didn't
know
that
and
then
like,
like
the
whole
new
world
opens
like
wow.
That
is
interesting
and
it
only
took
like
one
call,
but
you
really
need
to
think
that's
like.
No,
no,
no,
like
all
I
know,
are
assumptions
based
on
my
bubble.
B
A
C
Think
it's
important
point
that
at
some
cases,
the
developers
and
and
change
management
like
the
soft
soft
side
of
people,
so
maybe
join
forces
because,
for
example,
if
you
are
talking
about
like
teams,
provisioning,
which
is
super
technical
thing,
but
it's
something
the
end
users
use
every
day
or
every
week
and
it
affects
their
experience.
It's
a
huge
impact,
so
yeah
now.
A
C
I
would
say
three
maybe
may
be
engaged
management,
so
getting
into
resources
getting
into
internal
commitment
like
resources
like
internal
people,
money
and
time,
and
it's
not
like
to
once
protect
it's
more
like
a
two
years
project.
If
you
still
still
want
to
talk
about
projects
and
then
focus
on
the
teamwork
development
and
not
not
into
technical
trainings,
because
you
can
use
like
Microsoft
has
super
cool
resources
in
internet
for
free
you
can
use
and
the
theme
really
changes.
C
A
C
B
So
it
almost
seems
like
at
some
point:
people-
don't
don't
don't
see
the
necessity
to
change,
and
this
is
like
oh
yeah
died.
He
wants
to
have
new
set
of
toys,
let's
give
them
as
opposed
to
you
know.
No.
We
as
a
company
needs
to
change
because
the
world
halls,
and
otherwise
like
our
cheese,
will,
will
be
gone
and
then
we
will
be
left
behind.
So
is
that
indeed
the
case
that
companies
do
not
really
see
necessity
to
change
or
is
a
different
reason
for
it?
I
think.
C
A
A
B
Like
the
fact
I,
like
the
experience
I
like
the
how
how
it's
combines
multiple
things
into
one
I
missed
a
few
things
like
OneNote
tasks
like
basically
I'd
like
I'd,
like
the
office
that
office
app
to
be
all
all-encompassing,
and
maybe
that
is
like
I'm,
not
sure
if
we
will
ever
end
up
there,
because
if
you
think
office
well,
it's
teams,
its
email,
calendar,
its
tasks
and
then
files
right.
So
now
the
experience
is
very
much
around
the
files,
I
wonder
or
I'd
love
to
see
it
become
the
all-encompassing
office.
A
It
easy
for
everybody
to
consume
and
your
stuff
absolutely
answer
facing
the
different
options
and,
like
I
said
actually
not
that
I'm
watching
this
there
would
be
space
still
for
OneNote.
That's
an
example
and
then
having
those
exposed
here,
basically
means
or
wherever
they
are
with
being
exposed,
basically
means
that
then
they
people
can
more
easily
find
them
as
well
Oh.
What
is
this?
Oh
I
can
actually
do
notes
and
all
that
stuff,
so
yeah
makes
perfect
sense
to
do
all
of
that
stuff
to
do
isn't
actually
an
office
app
technically.
A
Yeah
so
I'm
using
to
do
nowadays
all
the
time
I've
a
baleen
up.
My
to
my
my
notes,
notes
from
my
table,
which
is
really
good,
partly
still
in
progress
anyway.
Ship
on
Saturdays
and
this
week
of
ship
on
Saturday
preman
starts
actually
on
Friday
and
because
it
is
a
two
day
event.
So
this
kind
of
the
ship
on
Saturday
in
North
Germany,
so
there's
a
Friday
two
workshops
seems
to
be
cybersecurity
and
adoption
best
practices
and
seems
to
be
in
German
as
well.
So
Germany
is
a
massive
market.
Absolutely
so
I
think
that's!
A
Some
of
these
are
in
German.
Some
of
these
are
in
English
and
then
in
the
Saturday
is
typical
for
spare
for
track
session
with
Nick
Parrilla
doing
the
keynote.
A
new
rhythm
business.
That's
pretty
interesting.
Nick
is
a
really
good
percenter
as
well
on
the
same
ship
on
Saturdays
ship
on
Saturday,
Chicago
suburbs,
I
think
there's
a
separate
one
in
Chicago
and
the
nested
cargo
choppers.
A
A
Familiar
face
names
here
as
well,
and
they
base
multiple
pairs,
protect
cortex,
preparing
for
protect,
cortex,
good
stuff,
really
good
stuff,
unknown
interface.
That's
a
quite
a
way
of
one
thing,
with
quarterly
animation,
they're
on
the
crate
resources
which
are
available
to
take
advantage.
It's
basically
a
creating
all
of
the
different
videos
and
conduct
content
to
be
used
as
part
of
your
intranet,
isolating
learning,
exercise
or
learning
solutions.
A
really
cool
set
up
and.
A
Now
a
few
kind
of
an
announcement
from
the
Microsoft
SharePoint
side
of
the
house,
so
there's
still
room
for
inter
intelligent
interent,
accelerated
workshops
and
such
my
reminder
on
that.
One
and
there's
quite
a
few
dates
still
left
in
here.
I
think
yeah
Copenhagen
is
the
next
one
and
that's
Friday
Saturday
Fri,
yes
right,
okay
and
then
Amsterdam
and
Hong,
Kong,
Chicago,
Berlin
and
Sweden.
Why
are
they
going
Copenhagen
and
Sweden,
pretty
close
by
and
to
Berlin
nevermind.
B
A
The
mass
and
then
locally
scale
it
and
in
ongoing
discussion
we'll
get
it
we'll
get
there
now
on
yesterday
on
Sunday.
Unfortunately,
it
doesn't
really
matter.
We
had
the
third
anniversary
of
so
and
ribbon
framework
has
been
insanely
successful.
So
it's
just
an
internal
node
with
it's
been
now
so
successful
that
our
internal,
even
tracking
systems,
are
having
problems
of
giving
up
on
how
much
it's
being
used,
which
is
actually
pretty
interesting,
and
but
it's
it's
so
successful
and
people
are
adapting.
A
Now
that
I
say
my
stuff
games,
tabs
extensibility
model
as
well
or
facade
ends
coming
right
after
so
it
looks
really
really
good
and
what's
partly
sad
from
here
and
as
some
of
these
people
have
actually
moved
even
away
from
Microsoft,
but
it's
good
to
say
those
who
do
not
know
this
look
up
and
in
a
later
say,
Pat
Miller.
That's
a
done.
Goga
know
that.
B
A
A
This
one
was
pretty
good,
gif
animation.
Let
me
see
if
I
can
actually
zoom
in
with
a
gif
animation,
still
ongoing.
It's
the
gif
animation
moving
yesterday.
So
how
do
we
bring
the
SharePoint
content
into
Microsoft
Ames
and
now
this
is
an
area
which
will
get
better
and
better
and
better
and
better
gradually,
and
so
basically
now
SharePoint
onedrive
and
themes
are
owned
by
Jeff,
deeper
she's,
our
senior
vice
president,
and
now
the
integration
will
absolutely
get
more
more
and
more
love
all
the
time,
because
people
want
to
have
teams
as
the
collaboration
platform.
B
A
C
Actually,
a
lot
of
my
customers
have
been
really
excited
about
the
possibility
to
integrate
some
of
the
internet
parts
in
teams,
because
I
think
the
teams
in
the
future
will
become.
Maybe
the
portal
also
for
the
internet.
So
internet
will
stay
in
insert
point,
but
people
will
use
it
inside
teams,
yeah.
A
A
In
the
same
way
as
you
can
expose
also
learning
pathways
in
a
teams
and
so
really
really
cool
stuff,
really
cool
stuff.
Now
some
community
articles,
this
one
is
from
Tracy
related
on
the
my
stuff
themes
and
adoption
as
well
Tracy's
doing
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
great
book
posts
really
on
this
area
as
well
and
she's,
by
the
way,
an
awesome
presenter.
A
If
you
haven't
seen
her
life,
you
should
go
and
check
it
out,
but
this
is
really
around
the
top
ten
thinks
you
should
know
so
purpose
communicating
this
really
comes
down
on
the
discussion
which
we
already
had
as
well.
So
considerations
and
ideas
and
input
input
around
naming
conventions
and
search,
and
all
of
that
now.
A
B
C
A
Week
was
a
Microsoft
team's
week
organized
by
the
SharePoint
European.
Well,
it's
actually
European
SharePoint
office
racist
by
National,
Conference
I
always
need
to
go
back
and
it
used
to
be
a
sharepoint
conference,
but
oversee
collaboration
and
portals
has
extended
to
other
areas
since
the
first
chip
on
conference,
and
that's
why
the
naming
has
kind
of
a
stick
on
down
here
and
but
this
is
an
awesome
set
of
articles
and
resources
from
multiple
different
writers
related
on
how
to
get
started
in
Microsoft
teams,
from
a
simple
scenarios
to
a
developer
scenarios
and
and
so
on.
A
A
C
A
This
is
if,
if
we
keep
on
or
if
they
keep
on
updating
this
set
of
articles-
and
hopefully
they
do
so-
this
is
a
really
really
really
case
set
of
having
a
centralized
page
where
you
can
go-
and
this
is
the
latest-
or
this
is
the
latest
top
20
articles
which
are
up
to
date,
and
that
would
be
a
really
great
for
not
only
for
teams
in
general,
so
having
a
centralized
location
for
the
latest
guidance
and
assets
and
resources.
So,
but
your
articles,
Fighting's
over
into
end-user,
should
know
about
Mike
sub-themes.
C
C
C
A
Make
sense
will
get
that
one
in
mentioned
in
the
video
notes
as
well.
No,
then,
if
you
developer
oriented
not
yet
actually
Nikki
poor
L
also
was
the
keynote
speaker
in
ship
on
Saturday
premium
move
to
move
the
modern
experiences
in
SharePoint.
And
what
do
you
need
to
know
about
it
I
think
there's
a
few
different
people
who
are
specialists
on
this
one
Katya
will
be
actually
visitor
industry
in
this,
in
this
show
pretty
soon
as
well.
A
She's
been
talking
about
that
from
an
end
user
perspective
as
well,
and
then
the
transformation
we
talked
about
that
one
with
Burke
Younce
and
quite
a
few
times
and
I
think
this
one
goes
more
or
also
on
the
development
stuff,
but
rather
on
what
does
it
actually
means?
I've
got
a
daughter
box
options
and
involved
in
working,
for
example,
the
root
side
to
be
a
modern
or
a
communication
site,
and
all
of
that
stuff,
so
good
article
from
the
game.
A
Now
this
one
more
development
oriented
stuff
so
quickly
improving
performance
when
searching
for
a
user
I
use
in
Microsoft
craft,
we
went
through
this
one
actually
already
in
the.
Let
me
actually,
where
do
I
zoom
in
here
we
go
before
we
start,
if
recording
at
the
whole
point
being
on
the
fact
that
if
you
hit
that
URL
may
you'll
get
to
the
user
immediately,
except
if
the
user
doesn't
exist,
so
it's
not
really
search
as
such,
even
though
the
title
of
the
blog
post
was
searched,
but
it's
much
more
performant.
A
Really
search
is
like
give
me
this:
it's
a
good
reminder
being
affectionately
yeah
and
then
this
one
programmatically
configured
base
approval
flow
for
more
than
pages
in
SharePoint
Online,
a
nice
blog
post
walking
through
the
process.
Let
me
actually
go
to
the
final
stage
where
we,
how
do
we
get
that
one
available
programmatically
in
pages?
So
that's
it's
actually
quite
useful.
So
how
do
we
associate
those
flows
for
chromatically?
If
you
want
to
automate
things
again?
A
This
comes
down
on
the
fact
which
I
know
Karolina,
maybe
well,
that's
maybe
on
your
specialty,
but
one
of
those
things
where
it's
not
like.
Int
users
want
to
click
through
and
associate
these
things
manually.
They
want
to
have
a
set
of
things
or
the
provision
for
them,
always
when
a
a
new
site,
collection
or
a
team
is
created
so
that
the
experience
is
exactly
the
same.
B
The
same
way
you
buy
a
car,
you
want
to
go
in
and
drive
like
yes,
so
this
is
the
car,
but
you
have
to
put
your
own
wheels
yourself
and
then
there's
the
engine,
which
is
also
a
building
blocks,
blocks
like
assemble.
It
yourself
like,
but
I
just
want
to
go,
buy
groceries,
no,
no,
no
yeah
I'm,
the
first
to.
A
This
one
came
from
this
morning
from
workman,
so
much
of
bots
framework
force
and
productive
messages,
the
team's
channels
and
users-
and
this
is
basically
a
browser.
Skynet
is
not
necessarily
the
most
nicest
example
Skynet
and
it's
a
great
movie,
though,
with
a
series
at
least
a
certain
level,
but
basically
how
do
we
post
to
a
specific
teams
and
channels
discussions
as
a
bot,
and
then
we
are
able
to
start
having
a
discussion?
Maybe
ask
a
question
or
a
promote,
hey
I'm
here.
If
you
want
to
help
reply
and
I
can
provide
you
inside.
A
So
that's
okay,
but
you
don't
go
on
that.
One
and
trakone
all
had
an
article
we
haven't
considered.
This
is
from
last
week
now
the
week
before
anyway,
and
there's
an
update
for
I
should
pipe
on
templates
for
shipment
framework
project
is
basically
automating
and
usher
pipelines
and
making
sure
that
you
can
do
continuous
integration
and
deployment
easily
with
with
our
DevOps
so
good
stuff.
On
there,
Chris
O'brien
has
infused
artificial
intelligence
or
is
it
machine
learning
I,
don't
know.
A
Yeah,
so
this
is
the
first
part
and
I
know
well,
obviously,
he's
here
basically
adding
an
additional
set
of
theories
later
on
so
looking
forward
on
that
one
from
Chris,
but
that's
it
for
the
articles
for
now,
so
those
are
listed
in
the
blog
post
as
well,
so
that
mr.
presenting
we
have
few
minutes
any
last
words.
What
I
planning
to
do
this
week,
Karolina
I'm.
A
C
C
C
A
B
B
I
learned
at
school
chairman
for
I,
don't
know
how
many
years
I
don't
speak.
It
I
kind
of
vaguely
understand
it,
but
that
is
different
actually
like
when
I
left
school.
My
compression
of
German
was
new
right.
So
so
it's
like
it's,
incidentally,
it
just
didn't
make
any
sense,
but
I
I
wasn't
aware
that
Finland
has
officially
two
languages
yep,
so
everything
street
all
signs
yep.
B
A
B
That
is
one
for
work.
We
have
released
last
week
something
new
of
what
on
which
we've
been
working
for
the
last
few
months,
so
that
is
now
available
in
private
preview
to
selected
group,
and
that
is
all
around
governance
of
365
at
scale.
So
this
is
really
cool
thing
and
it
allows
you
to
look
for
certain
things
and
automate
working
with
that.
So
imagine
you
have
a
lot
of
things
that
aren't
used
or
a
lot
of
things
that
don't
match
the
governance
plan
that
you
have
like.
B
What
do
you
do
with
that,
and
also
beyond
the
point
where
it's
just
one
or
two,
what,
if
it's,
ten
or
hundred
or
even
more
like?
How
do
you
deal
with
that?
So
that
is
now
currently
being
available
in
preview
and
we
are
going
to
onboard
the
customers
that
we
have
for
that
in
the
coming
weeks.
So
we
hope
to
learn
more
and
shortly
after
that
really
quickly
get
to
market
to
the
place
where
you
can
say:
okay,
now
we
make
it
available
to
everybody.
Yes,.
A
A
Back
on
the
change
management
from
Carolina
as
well
that
constant
change,
you
just
need
to
teach
the
changes
for
the
employees
and
and
what's
available,
because
every
single
time
as
an
example
when
we
as
Microsoft,
which
answer
button
in
the
SharePoint
UI
or
whatever
people
freak
out,
and
then
they
go.
It's
not
there
anymore.
A
It's
even
super
visible
in
the
dev
documentation,
which
waldek
has
helped
at
some
point
and
quite
heavily
on
on
building
and
the
more
documentation
to
have
been
more
stuff.
You
have
to
maintain.
So
it's
really
interesting
balance
on
on
too
much
documentation
is
actually
harming
you
because
it's
no
longer
up
to
date.
B
C
A
Yeah
absolutely
and
then
we
could
continue
Carlina.
Do
you
have
a
hard
stuff
I'm,
just
double-checking
that
you
don't
have
a
customer
meeting
right
now,
because
you,
you
actually
thought
this
already
that
it's
it
not
necessary.
It
shouldn't
necessarily
always
be
a
project
and
we're
hitting
more
and
more
to
the
direction
where
even
the
let's
say,
landing
or
taking
use
on
SharePoint,
Online
or
office
365
my
craziest.
A
It's
not
actually
project
it's
a
continuous
journey,
and
then
you
introduce
new
features
and
enable
new
features
and
in
the
same
way
the
change
management
should
be
continuous
journey.
Where
we
allocate
in
every
single
year
in
the
budget.
So
I
don't
want
of
money,
and
then
we
can
help
the
the
train
to
move
forward
and
improve
the
readiness
of
the
customer
of
the
entry.
B
A
B
We
all
know
the
moment
you
stop.
You
will
gonna
revert
back
to
your
original
behavior
posture
likey.
Instead,
you
should
think
about
as
a
lifestyle
change
the
same
thing.
An
option
like
it
has
to
become
like
you
have
like,
whatever
you
choose,
you
have
to
be
sure
that
you're
willing
to
keep
up
with
that
for
the
rest
of
your
days,
because
only
then
it
will
work.
Otherwise,
it's
a
quick
fix
and
just
like
bouncing
back
between
I'm
good
on
that
I'm
good
I'm
bet
it
worse.
It
doesn't
right
yeah.
B
A
A
Too
bad
unless
there's
a
situation
change
this
on
on
the
corona,
thingy
and
everybody.
So
there's
a
microsoft
watching
that
pretty
carefully
as
well,
because
there
has
been
some
unfortunate
development
in
intelli
italy
right
now
during
weekend,
but
we'll
see
we'll
see
how
it
actually
moves,
but
it's
life.
We
need
to
adapt
and
and
doing
these
kind
of
things
virtually
and
remotely
and
from
home,
not
a
bad
thing
at
all.
Why
wouldn't
we
be
able
to
do
that
solid
I'm,
all
for
it?
It's
more
environmental
friendly
as
well.
A
But
I
think
that's
it
for
now.
Thank
you,
Karolina
for
joining
I'm,
talking
about
the
software
side
of
things,
which
is
very
important
because
it
doesn't
matter
if
you
write
the
most
awesome
piece
of
code
or
most
awesome
feature
if
nobody
knows
how
to
use
it,
so
it
is
really
and-
and
thank
you
all
again
for
this
one
I
think
for
next
week.
We
need
to
we
haven't,
looked
anybody
for
next
week,
yet
we
need
to
jump
on
it.
Thank.